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Nice things If you want to thank or praise me, do it here Stuff What happened to this?--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 20:26, 27 September 2006 (BST) Attained bureaucrat status Congrats Bob! You deserved it =) --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC☺T☺+1 06:58, 10 September 2006 (BST) Thanks. :) –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 07:09, 10 September 2006 (BST) Now that you've reached the pinacle of the UD-wiki, where do you plan to go next? --Karlsbad 07:05, 10 September 2006 (BST) The same place I go everyday, Karlsbad. The place where I can conquer the world! –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 07:07, 10 September 2006 (BST) Karly, Karly and the Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob- Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob- Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob: BOB! (dunh nah-nuh nah nah... ba-bah!) --Karlsbad 07:11, 10 September 2006 (BST) He's really planning to kill Kevan and take his place: I saw the blueprints of Kevan's house and a lot of chemicals in Bob's possesion. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC☺T☺+1 07:08, 10 September 2006 (BST) Never!!!!!!!!11one –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 07:09, 10 September 2006 (BST) Who the fuck died and made you boss, huh? Huh? HUH? Oh yeah, me. Um, congrats. –Xoid S•T•FU! 07:35, 10 September 2006 (BST) *Counts gold* It's all here. Congrats Bob, you earned your promotion. --Paradox244 W! TJ! 21:43, 10 September 2006 (BST) Hey uh....Bob......you can have Fort Knox back. I got a different offer. Can I rule USA? Also....Congrats on that promotion. --Axe Hack 21:49, 10 September 2006 (BST) Thanks. You can have USA, but you have to rename it "Bobland." –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 21:50, 10 September 2006 (BST) That works too! --Axe Hack 21:52, 10 September 2006 (BST) Thanks. :D –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 21:50, 10 September 2006 (BST) Management issues This is for serious issues related to moderation, arbitration, vandal banning, page deletions, and things of that nature. Use one of the subcategories below to discuss these issues Moderation/Bureaucrat Bids Discussion relating to bids for moderator and bureaucrat Inactive? Inactive? It appears that you have not made a contribution to the wiki in the last four months, and have been put up for demotion as an inactive sysop. Please let us know if you're around, and really still interested in maintaining the wiki. Thanks -- boxy talk • i 04:24 31 January 2008 (BST) I'll kill you, you son of a bitch! I'll take you to misconduct, get you banned from the wiki, get promoted to burecrat, and get your IP. Then I'll track you down and gut you like the fish you are. That's right, I went there. I called you a filthy piss drinking fish! When I'm done with you, you'll wish you recognized what a terrific mod I would have been! I! WILL! MURDER! YOU! LITERALLY! AND! IN! REAL! LIFE! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jjames (talk • contribs) at an unknown time. Hehe. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 02:37, 13 September 2006 (BST) I thought you'd get a kick out of that.Jjames 05:48, 13 September 2006 (BST) No, seriously, GOLD IN THE BASKET = SYSOP RIGHTS BUT I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 05:49, 13 September 2006 (BST) My Bid Thank you for the advice. --Paradox244 W! TJ! 21:12, 5 September 2006 (BST) No problem. Hope I helped somewhat. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 23:33, 5 September 2006 (BST) Very much so. I've already found something of a niche putting up unused group pages for speedy deletion. I will be a mod yet! Someday... --Paradox244 W! TJ! 20:53, 8 September 2006 (BST) Thank you for your advice. I see that my placement of the gold in the basket was not without benefit. Mind if I steal your formatting? Also you might want to update yours. Thank you. --Paradox244 W! TJ! 21:40, 10 September 2006 (BST) Don't mind at all. Let me know if you have any questions (the formatting is a little complicated, with tables within tables within tables). What's out of date on mine? –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 21:51, 10 September 2006 (BST) Under contributions, under policy discussions it says that voting is underway for the hate speech policy. Just me being picky, and thanks for letting me steal your formating.--Paradox244 W! TJ! 23:53, 10 September 2006 (BST) The gold I'm looking forward the day my efforts on your bid get the form of shinning gold. Congratulations on your promotion.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 06:58, 10 September 2006 (BST) Thank you. Now to conquer the wiki. :) –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 07:10, 10 September 2006 (BST) `~` --Gold Blade 07:11, 10 September 2006 (BST) Congrats Congrats on getting Bureaucrat.--∴Gage DON'T CLICK HERE 03:34, 11 September 2006 (BST) Thanks. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 02:15, 15 September 2006 (BST) Vandal Banning For discussing vandalism, vandals, and vandal banning Lemonade thanks for taking the time to warn him, Bob. The kid's been unsuccessfully trying to bother us on our forums for awhile now, and frankly I wasn't going to give him the satisfaction of a vandal report. I've reverted all of his edits, and made the page he created a little less pointless. --Aiden H 4H 09:13, 8 September 2006 (BST) No problem. I'm glad I could help. :) If he keeps it up, just report him again, and he'll find himself banned soon enough (the order is two warnings, then a 24 hour ban, 48 hours, 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, then permanent). –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 17:00, 8 September 2006 (BST) Nevermind, Brizth banned him permanently as all of his contributions were acts of vandalism. –Xoid S•T•FU! 17:38, 8 September 2006 (BST) God=zing? When did this shit go down? When did Auschvitz return? Why is Zod being such an a dick? lolanswerzplz--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 22:42, 31 August 2006 (BST) MrAushvitz returned a while ago, maybe a month, sadly. Zod has always been a dick. We figured out God=Amazing a couple of weeks ago, and quickly banned him, and his second alt too. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 04:49, 5 September 2006 (BST) MrA I'm not going to argue with you on your interpretation of the suggestion rules... but I would like to ask that you show MrA a little mercy in this case. As far as I can tell he thought that he was following the rules when he did his revisions, and if he was wrong there seems to be quite a few people who are equally confused. I can't help but feel that banning him for an entire month over something that mounts to an honest mistake regarding what is still a relatively new policy is a bit harsh, especially as Gage has felt it nessesary to put up a revision on the suggestions talk page to help clarify the point. I understand that you have to enforce the rules, but as you said you also have to interpet them. Perhaps just a warning might suffient in this case, especially as MrA has been trying to behave himself recently. The Mad Axeman 11:53, 19 September 2006 (BST) I understand your concern, and if I could, I would have given MrAushvitz a less harsh punishment. However, the guidelines are quite clear as to the order of punishments, and since he has already received two warnings, a 24 hour ban, a 48 hour ban, and a 1 week ban, my only choice was to give him a 1 month ban. I'd prefer it if we had more room to determine what punishments were appropriate, but under the current guidelines, that's all I was allowed to do. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 15:02, 19 September 2006 (BST) Deletions/Speedy Deletions Discuss the deletion of pages here Arbitration Issues relating to arbitration belong here Policy Discussion For discussion about proposed policy changes Moved my proposal to withdrawn while I contemplate how to better word it. Advice welcomed. Hopefully I did the right thing (procedurely) in moving it to that section.--Steele Glovier 18:17, 20 September 2006 (BST) Policy Explanation Request Hi Bob, If you could, would you provide me with an example of PDCONP and what it'd look like? I've read through the policy, and while it makes sense, I cannot visualize what "wrong content" would look like. (edit-add) Actually, there was a second thing I meant to ask. If I want to acknowledge that I play a second character on UD, and feel more at home with that character's name, would it be appropriate to make a second wiki account, to set up a sig file with the preferred name, or some other solution? What is your recommendation? -Wulfenbach 03:48, 18 August 2009 (BST) (much later add - Bob hates me!) Does the policy exclude fake system messages then? Like ones that are a "You have a new message (last change)." where the links are to some special page? I know that the revises sigs policy denies this, but does the PCONP one as well? -Wulfenbach 21:53, 2 December 2009 (UTC) Other management issues Any other management issues should go here G-O-D His talk page has the protections template on it twice. Thought you might want to fix that--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 19:44, 15 October 2006 (BST) Checkuser capabilities It's just me, or this means that STER is the only mod that can't perform a Checkuser check? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC☺T☺+1 20:23, 14 September 2006 (BST) Good catch! Fixed it. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 20:44, 14 September 2006 (BST) Mwha ha ha Ha, I have too much time on my hands. I have spotted a potential source of vandalism which could be very devastating for the wiki. Just imagine people placing {{SUBST:User:Jedaz/Sandbox/Evil Text}} into their signiture, especialy if it's a template signiture because they could sign alot of pages and then change it. If you don't get what this would eventualy do, just have a bit of a think about it. A page which wouldn't be able to be opened is called to hundreds of pages on the wiki, and the person can easily hide behind the rules saying that since it's their user page name space that they can have whatever they want. And, in short nothing could be done because people would be afraid of having a vandalism case brought against them. So maybe we should make a policy against the template signatures, what do you reckon? - Jedaz - 03:26/24/04/2024 08:26, 15 September 2006 (BST) Think about it. Just change every user sig to {{Main Page}}{{Main Page}}{{Main Page}}{{Main Page}} . The griefing potential is out there. Allowing templatedish signatures or not.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 08:41, 15 September 2006 (BST) Yes, but someone putting {{Main Page}}{{Main Page}}{{Main Page}}{{Main Page}} on every page will be noticed quickly by people, but someone whos going to sign a whole heap of pages and then change their template signiture isn't going to noticed instantly, that is if at all. And all it takes is just one edit to potentially crash hundreds of pages. - Jedaz - 03:26/24/04/2024 08:47, 15 September 2006 (BST) Yes, I see the obvious abuse potential, but what about those of us who use template signatures right now? I don't want to give that up. Perhaps a policy against destructive signatures? Maybe we could roll a ban on distracting images into that as well. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 16:52, 15 September 2006 (BST) And other malicious links, a la Gage's recent signout one. Cyberbob  Talk  16:54, 15 September 2006 (BST) And maybe signatures that break page layouts? (I'm thinking of Canuhearmenow's image one here.) –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 16:57, 15 September 2006 (BST) Something I shall tell you Well because of this policy, I've put my foot in the shit because of a few comments I've made that I don't really wish to follow through with. I've decided one of two things, I can either get the "you're all clear" from you and Xoid and I'll be fine and not do anything, or I can just commit this act of "vandalism" that I said thus the intent is gone because it's already done. I'm hoping I can get the "you're all clear" otherwise I'll have to vandalise so I don't get kicked off the wiki. Well whats your thought on this? Oh and Cyberbob, don't comment on this, your comments arn't needed and it doesn't involve you. - Jedaz - 03:26/24/04/2024 14:15, 18 September 2006 (BST) I thought it was OK to butt in on other people's conversations! Pardon me for thinking that applied to everyone. Cyberbob  Talk  18:12, 18 September 2006 (BST) No, I just knew that you would want to comment and that your comments wouldn't be very constructive, hence is why I told you not to get involved. - Jedaz - 03:26/24/04/2024 01:23, 19 September 2006 (BST) Yeah, it would be nice if I could trust you, but you haven't given me any compelling reason to. It's up to you to reverse that if you want to be cleared, otherwise it will be up to Xoid and me. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 23:09, 18 September 2006 (BST) Ok then, I can see why there isn't any reason to trust me. So how do you mean "to reverse that"? I'm not quite sure I follow, are you talking about reversing my statements or to commit the vandalism and then reverse it? - Jedaz - 03:26/24/04/2024 01:23, 19 September 2006 (BST) Ah, I see how you're confused. Let me clarify for you. There is ample evidence of you saying, even in extremely close proximity to your comments claiming that you are reformed, that you plan on vandalizing the wiki, that you have already started vandalizing the wiki, and that there is nothing that we can do to stop you. If you want me to believe that you were just having a bad day, you'll need to figure out some way to convince me of that. Otherwise, rest assured that I can stop you, and I will not hesitate to — preemptively if I can, or after the fact with even harsher consequences if you begin before that happens. Let's not go there, shall we? But it's up to you to prove to me that I shouldn't. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 01:43, 19 September 2006 (BST) Well I can't think of anything that would be convincing. Maybe I should just get you to demote me right here and now. That way I can still be on the wiki. Hmm.... either way I see it I'm going to loose my moderator abilitys. I'll have a bit of a think about this. So just a question out of curiosity, what brought up the policy? I couldn't help notice that it was created soon after I made those comments. Is it a coincidence or not? - Jedaz - 03:26/24/04/2024 01:59, 19 September 2006 (BST) Whether or not you will lose your Moderator status remains to be seen, but I find it interesting that you don't seem inclined to make any case for yourself, or even claim that you were being impersonated on the Scroll Wars wiki. The policy was created to address situations like the one we're in currently now. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 02:12, 19 September 2006 (BST) Well why lie? My case? How am I suppose to make one? I say I had a bad day and no one will belive me, theres nothing I can do about it really. Anyway if I was going to deny that I was the user on scroll wars then I wouldn't have brought this up. Anyway why were you checking out what my IP's were with check user? Did you confirm that I wasn't a vandal as you should have already known? - Jedaz - 03:26/24/04/2024 02:18, 19 September 2006 (BST) You see, the thing is that your "bad day" is more than a day long, and your comments indicated premeditated intentions of vandalism, not to mention corroborating with a repeat wiki vandal. How do you explain that? I was checking to see if you had any other accounts. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 02:43, 19 September 2006 (BST) *sigh*, ok, you win. I give up. Just give me a second and I'll make my resignation as moderator offical ok? - Jedaz - 03:26/24/04/2024 05:17, 19 September 2006 (BST) I'd say I'll miss you, but telling the truth is a habit of mine. Cyberbob  Talk  05:23, 19 September 2006 (BST) Ok, there you go, heres the demotions page - JedazΣT ΞD 05:40, 19 September 2006 (BST) Locations Pages Project For stuff directly related to the Locations Pages Project Project Welcome For questions from people needing help, or discussion about Project Welcome Suggestions For discussion about the suggestions page Groups If it's about ASS, it goes here Editing/technical questions Questions about technical issues (e.g., wikicode, XHTML, CSS) or editing (e.g., templates, edit conflicts, etc.) belong here Open Discussion regarding ParserFunctions extension Since you've shown interest in this subject in the past, I thought I'd let you know that I've started an Open Discussion regarding Arguments for-and-against the ParserFunctions extension. I'd appreciate any constructive comments you might be able to provide there. Thanks! --Morgan Blair 06:38, 17 May 2008 (BST) You do realise he's been inactive for almost 2 years? --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 10:01, 17 May 2008 (BST) Er, heh, no... Funny, I contacted about a half-dozen other interested parties, and I checked contributions on them all to see that they were still active. For some reason, I omitted doing that with BobHammero... --Morgan Blair 12:30, 17 May 2008 (BST) Parser Functions hey thre. I was trying to make some templates work parser functions (if, ifeq) but i failed at it. Have you tried making something with parser functions ? I think they are not working right :\ --overlord hagnat mod 22:14, 2 September 2006 (BST) As far as I know, they aren't even installed. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 00:47, 3 September 2006 (BST) A Question How do you do this awesome colored background and nav bar thing I see all the cool people using? --Paradox244 W! TJ! 21:44, 10 September 2006 (BST) Tables, tables, and more tables! Look at this, and then take a look at this for a simple example of how to do it. The basic structure for each of your pages will be: Include navigation Content Add the |} at the end. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 21:48, 10 September 2006 (BST) Thank you very much. --Paradox244 W! TJ! 21:51, 10 September 2006 (BST) Other If it doesn't fit anywhere else, just put it here oh hi i hear u were a moderator in this zanny game... when are ye comming back ? ye said it would only be some few weeks :( --hagnat 00:43, 30 July 2011 (BST) Cool New Templates I have made a few new templates, which should be very useful. {{c}} {{size}} {{c}} can be used to strike votes and comments on pages who's background is not white as well.--Gage 15:00, 26 September 2006 (BST) Mod? Should I run for Moderation? I would like a good Bureaucratic answer please.--Canuhearmenow Hunt! 23:17, 18 September 2006 (BST) If you ran for Moderator, I doubt you would succeed, simply because you still seem unsure of how to do many things on the wiki, and I haven't seen you contribute significantly to any project, or participate on any of the Moderation pages. With some work, I think you could reverse that, but you'd have to demonstrate it for a while (at least a month). However, there could be something that you would find beneficial in running, in that you'd hear from people exactly what they think is important in a Moderator, and you could find out that I'm unique in my position, although I doubt it. It's nothing personal, it's just that I haven't seen much from you. :) Let me know if you have further questions, or advice on how to go about making yourself more Moderator-ready. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 23:23, 18 September 2006 (BST) I would like some Advice please.--Canuhearmenow Hunt! 23:35, 18 September 2006 (BST) Read this page. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 23:53, 18 September 2006 (BST) So, should I run for Mod simply to "Test the water" (Made that up myself) to see exactly what I need to improve on?--Canuhearmenow Hunt! 20:52, 20 September 2006 (BST) If you want to, sure. It wouldn't hurt. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 22:40, 20 September 2006 (BST) MSN Now. I've got something important to speak to you about. Cyberbob  Talk  01:46, 18 September 2006 (BST) Ultimate Mentor/Welcome effort Hey Bob! Just found a very interesting page that both Project Welcome and Project Mentor can abuse. Any chance that this page could be changed? It wuold be cool if it included some remark to the {{Welcomenewbie}} template, the {{MentorNewbie}} one, or either a modification of the {{Welcomenewbie}} template that includes the Project Mentor, a totally new template or you say what. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC☺T☺+1 20:18, 14 September 2006 (BST) I suppose that when I add two messages at once on your talk page you just tend to read the last one =P. Heads up! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC☺T☺+1 21:02, 14 September 2006 (BST) Project Mentor! Yay! Project Mentor has officially got its first request! Just saying this so that you can volunteer to be MrYawn's Mentor.--Canuhearmenow Hunt! 21:15, 6 September 2006 (BST) Ars Requiem Recently i have deleted this group page. Looking at the edit history, i noticed you took part of it. Was this important or something ? There is a lot of references to this page. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 15:53, 10 September 2006 (BST) Not that I know of. I don't even recall what my edit was. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 18:16, 10 September 2006 (BST) This group is semi-famous. I've heard others talk about it before, I've seen it mentioned before, and they've apparently done some stuff. As such, I put in a request on M/U. –Xoid S•T•FU! 18:34, 10 September 2006 (BST) World Domination Template Here's a template for your world domination needs, Bob. World Domination This user has plans for world domination. --Axe Hack 04:10, 11 September 2006 (BST) Ha! Awesome. Thanks. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 04:19, 11 September 2006 (BST) MSN A quick chat, if you would. –Xoid S•T•FU! 16:58, 15 September 2006 (BST) Urbandead, PTT, and Chinese i was reading the PTT page... and they are resuming most guides inside their own group page. While i praise the effort of bringing the game closer to their friends, i think this just isnt right. So i was speaking with my little imaginary friend here (say hi to him Bernard... yesss, goood fella) and i had an strange idea to help them. What ya think of creating a namespace for them ? like 'ch:'... whre they could translate all other pages that are not inside a namespace. I think that would work a lot better than just have them all add important information (for them) in just one page. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 05:41, 19 September 2006 (BST) Seems like a decent idea, but I'm wondering how long it'll be before every foreigner and his dog wants a namespace for his own language. For the moment, I think we'll need to limit this simply because there aren't any Chinese moderators. If we can't read what they're writing, what happens when an inevitable edit war comes up? It'll happen, sooner or later it'll happen. Maybe wait until there is a moderator who can speak Chinese fluently and is active before making this a major effort? –Xoid S•T•FU! 03:05, 20 September 2006 (BST) Speak Chinese fluently? Well....I had a good run....I'm Chinese and I can't even speak it fluently......sad..... --Axe Hack 03:11, 20 September 2006 (BST) Zar speaks chinese... but he isnt that active anymore :(. Anyway, this namespace could be limited to certain pages, like only the ones listed in the game information box, and the guides. More than this i think it wouldnt be necessary. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 03:13, 20 September 2006 (BST) Even if I could speak Chinese fluently, I don't have the Chinese-English keyboards....I'm so sad....Chinese and suck at it....T_T --Axe Hack 03:16, 20 September 2006 (BST) code Your page has lots of yummy code to steal! I mean.... liberate.. damn, that's the best I can come up with?... --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 14:38, 8 May 2007 (BST) And I doubt he's gonna care because he's inactive... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:40, 8 May 2007 (BST) But it's only polite to mention it.--Vista +1 14:54, 8 May 2007 (BST) I wonder How many people are watching this page? --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 21:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC) I am.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 22:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC) Shh, you aren't suppose to tell him Thari.--Karekmaps?! 02:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC) I know but still I WANT A GODDAMN AWARD FROM YOU!--User:Sexualharrison05:07, 4 February 2012 (bst)