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== Spambits ==<br />
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Is it possible to limit page creation to autoconfirmed users? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 19:37, 19 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:Yeah but Kevan has to do it. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::{{Grr}} {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 19:51, 19 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::There's discussion about it somewhere. I think the argument was that autoconfirmed users are those with 25 edits or one week under their belt and there are loads of non-spambit users we'd be fucking over by making them wait a week. I think there is a way to limit adding external links to autoconfirmed and probably even possible to whitelist certain domains (like urbandead.com). Still might limit some legitimate users and would still require Kevan's hand. I'll see if I can link you to the discussion. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>20:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::Well the discussion seems to be spread out through several policy discussion pages. The most recent one came just after the wiki software update ([[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Semi-protection#Ideas_for_implimentation|recent and relevant info]]). There was also [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Autoconfirmed Group|three]] [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Autoconfirmed Group 2|separate]] [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Autoconfirmed Group Trial|policy discussions]] specifically addressing autoconfirmed. Uhh, I'm sure your question is probably in the somewhere but short answer is it's ultimately up to Kevan. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>20:31, 19 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:The answer is: yes, you can. The 'create page' ability is a seperate permission which could be un-assigned to the 'users' group and given to the 'autoconfirmed' group. However, I'd be unwilling to do that given the disruption it would cause newbies (why should they have to make 25 edits to a wiki they really aren't interested in just so they can create a group page?)<br />
:If we were going to do it then we'd probably have to create a new "page creation requests" page.<br />
:For the record, autoconfirmed groups were originally envision purely for use with semi-protection. 'Autoconfirmed' is granted after one week and 25 edits.--{{User:The General/sig}} 03:55, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::The only way I'd see to make it feasible would be to limit page creation in the main namespace to auto-confirmed users and then adding in a group namespace for all groups to occupy which wouldn't require auto-confirmed status. In that way people who create a wiki account only to create and maintain a group page wouldn't be hindered and no new requests page would be needed (only very special cases possibly). But I couldn't imagine all the page moves and broken links(unless redirects always happen with page moves?) that would be required *shudders* >.> {{User:Mazu/sig}} 04:07, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::Loosen the autoconfirm criteria then (I'm pretty sure it's do-able, given that it's ''one'' day on the big wiki). With the time issue reduced, 25 edits really isn't a lot if you edit your userpage, add links to your new group to places, and ''then'' create it. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 04:09, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::Considering most spambits wait a few hours to post their page and that's the only edit they make removing the time limit and just make 5 or 10 edits the requirement. Heck if you want to keep the purpose of the current auto-confirmed group just make a second group that you'll earn with very little effort (such as 5 or 10 edits) to thwart the spambits. You could even name it aptly '''"You not a spambit yay!"'''{{User:Mazu/sig}} 04:20, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::Second group is possible but requires some fiddling by Kevan.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:28, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::It's ''4 days'' on Wikipedia. The '''whole purpose''' of the autoconfirmed is to protect highly visible pages from vandals, so we can't really change that - it would make semi-protection useless.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:28, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::It's doable, but quite complicated and so goodluck getting Kevan to do it.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:28, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::I'm pretty sure that with the way Kevan configured our wiki during the update (which was likely nearly entirely the default configuration) changing group permissions has not been enabled for any level of user (including crat). Crats can assign permissions to specific user by adding or removing them from a specific group but they can't change the actual permissions. $wgGroupPermissions would need to be configured differently before we could go changing group permissions. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>07:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::Yeah, giving crats the ability to change group permissions is pretty unusual for most wikis.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:28, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::Oh ok, sorry I thought you meant it was something we could do ourselves in your comments above. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>14:18, 20 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::::Nah, none of these usergroup changes can be done by us. At best, we might be able to convince Kevan to let the 'crats have the power to create/alter usergroups; but that'd still require a fair bit of fiddling from him.--{{User:The General/sig}} 02:19, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::What about one edit? People could just create a user page. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 10:32, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::Yeah, we could. I am thoroughly against using the autoconfirmed group for that, though. We should set up a separate group if we're going to so it.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:55, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::Doing that would work wonders; can only create a page after one edit. In the restrictive system message for the "sorry you cannot create the page you're trying to make you need X edits", just add a link to the [[Sandbox]] or something, easy enough. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 14:47, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::I'd be for a separate group. Maybe just "confirmed users". Some spambits would likely still find a way by spamming existing articles rather than creating new ones. We already see that in some cases though its more rare. I still think we should explore the option of limiting who can add external links. I think that's an option on the reCapcha extension we have. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:07, 20 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::::::So Kevan forming a second group with the page creation permission to be earned with 5 edits would kill about all spambits. Then making it so users not in the auto-confirmed group have to enter a reCapcha to post an external link(s)? Sounds simple and solid to me.{{User:Mazu/sig}} 22:34, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::::...are you kidding? I'd rather it be the way it is now, instead of spammers going: "''Hmm. I can't make '''new''' pages, so I guess I'll just start overwriting '''currently existing pages'''.''" --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:33, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::::::You figure they'd send updated bits to our little wiki? I'd say there are bigger fish to fry {{User:Mazu/sig}} 00:52, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::::::I'm not a programmer but I'd imagine spambots don't actually have anywhere near that sort of intelligence. P sure they are kamikaze bots designed to just make one page then make another if they havent been banned within the minute. If you find an actual spambot smart enough to have the line of thought you've just hypothesized above then tell me and I'll give it a medal. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:54, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::Actually the old bots used to do exactly that and it's not something that would even be code intensive really. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:03, 22 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::There is likely some human intervention involved with the bits. That's how they get past recapcha for account creation. Companies will pay people in china and african nations to solve the capchas. I think the going rate is 5 american cents per 1000 capchas solved. Would they pay the extra monies to solve the extra capchas? I don't know. We really don't know how the bits would react. I actually share Akule's concerns. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:12, 21 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::::::::::::If we were to go through with some change i'd recommend doing only the change to adding urls at first since that works across the board without changing permissions. If we're lucky and it snuffs the bits we don't need to change anything else.if we're not, then we can consider adding the new group. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:27, 21 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::::::::::::Yeah I was referring to the programmers/companies updating their bits :P Just be sure only users not in the auto confirmed group have to enter capchas. I hate those things and so does everyone else.{{User:Mazu/sig}} 01:37, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::::::Just to say: It is perfectly possible to use a piece of logic which says "if <can create page> = true; create new page" and then "If <can create page> = false; goto Special:Random; edit page" (I could even give you proof-of-concept code to do it). Whether or not most of the bots are that complicated is another matter (I'd guess "no", but that is only a guess). Adding a captcha when adding external links for non-autoconfirmed users is a setting in our captcha extension; it's a matter of toggling an option on. I doubt it will have much effect, though, given that the only bot which actually seems phased by a captcha would be mine.--{{User:The General/sig}} 02:19, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::That's because your not making your bot run the capcha by younto solve them. Even sophisticated black-hat linkspamming programs like {{WP|XRumer}} supposedly use a mix of human and machine to do their evil bidding. I don't know if it would help either but as you said it would be easy to toggle on, it would work well with the autoconfirm settings already in place, and even sysops would have some control over what is allowed through whitelisting. It couldn't hurt to try it. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>02:56, 21 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::::::::::True, and it's not worth the hassle to make it work: It only becomes a problem when I mistype my password and the captcha springs up. Yeah, I believe that's the easiest way to do it. Fun fact: The framework that I use is actually capable of solving several types of captcha on its own; reCaptcha just happens to be one of the types that is impervious to it.--{{User:The General/sig}} 03:03, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::Random thought: The best anti-bot measures are actually the ones that ask questions or give maths problems because they block essentially all auto-solving bots and merely leave the human-solving ones.--{{User:The General/sig}} 03:06, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::::That might be something to request. I think it is also a fairly straightforward change. Would you mind doing the honors of requesting the changes fro Kevan. You seemed to have said the magic words last time. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>03:11, 21 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::::::::::::: 2+2=<>< will foil all bots! :D {{User:Mazu/sig}} 03:24, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Bardiclife ==<br />
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Is there a way to figure out if the account "Bardiclife" that I'm 99.99% sure I created before this one is still around? I tried creating the account, but the user name exists, yet, I can't find it on the user hub or user namespaces. <br />
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Or...is there a way to change my username "<s>TheBardofAwesome</s>" to "Bardiclife" without creating another account?<br />
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Thanks. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 18:21, 12 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:[[User:Bardiclife]] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=Bardiclife&group=&limit=100 was created] on 20 February 2010 at 01:49. If you provided an email address when you signed up, you can request that your password is reset. Otherwise, there is no way of regaining control of that account, unfortunately. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>18:43, 12 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::Is there any way for a sysop to change the email address of that account or tell me what email address was used? I have about seven email addresses that I might have used. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 19:05, 12 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:::I'm afraid not. We don't have access to your personal information. I can tell you that it is not likely that you ever provided an email address on that account. Usually, when a user provides an email address, there will be a link on the side bar when viewing their userpages that says "Email this User". [[User:Bardiclife]] does not have that link. That's not to say you didn't provide an email and then unchecked the option preferences to allow users to email you, but that's not the most likely situation. I'm afraid that you probably no longer have access to that account. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:26, 12 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
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:::I think your best bet is to just try logging in with the username Bardiclife using passwords you think you may have used. If you just can't remember, click the "email new password" button on the login screen and check each of your email accounts. The login screen may even tell you if you don't have an email address on file. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:39, 12 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::I've tried all of the passwords that I could think of-been changing passwords a lot and checked out all possible email addresses that I remember but no luck. Anything else I can do? I mean, I wouldn't mind having the username Bardiclife deleted. I just don't want to take that route if I haven't exhausted all of my options. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 21:20, 12 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::Deleting users from the wiki isn't possible, I'm afraid. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::::The only one who can delete accounts is Kevan, so we SysOps aren't able to delete accounts. Block them, yes. Delete them, no. If you're worried about your other account getting hacked and afraid the blame will be placed on you, you can always request that the other account get blocked. That's what I did for the account I created a few weeks before this Axe Hack account. I forgot the password and requested the other account be blocked so that it won't go on a spam spree and link back to me if it gets hacked. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:40, 12 August 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::I'm not so worried about the account getting hacked, moreso not being able to access my oldest account on the wiki. An account whose name isn't so...vain as <s>TheBardofAwesome</s> is. Nothing serious, just quirky stuff. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 01:12, 13 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::I'd just say make a new account if you want a name change. TheBardofOld has a decent ring to it and isn't vain. Although I can't think of a word but a more archaic term might fit better. Or you could just pull a [[User:MisterGame|Thad]] and use an alias. {{User:Mazu/sig}} 04:33, 13 August 2011 (BST)<br />
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BTW, it would be possible to change account names with the use of an extension.--{{User:The General/sig}} 15:54, 13 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:Let's not even go there. Of all the wiki updates needed, that's really low in priority. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>18:33, 13 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::Just mentioning it; this problem has come up a couple of times now. It'd also take about 5 minutes to perform.--{{User:The General/sig}} 19:56, 13 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:::Yeah I know. I just get nervous at the idea of requesting more wiki updates. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>20:23, 13 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::Adding that ability would be a sign of *cue dramatic music* {{Misconbitragnarok}} *gasp* {{User:Mazu/sig}} 04:26, 14 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:Would anyone with the ability to lock accounts, mind locking the users TheBardofAwesome and Bardiclife from future usage? I don't want them to cause a problem, should someone else gain access to them and use them for evil. Thanks. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 18:14, 21 October 2011 (BST)<br />
::Log into the wiki with those accounts and head over to [[A/VB]] and request a self imposed ban on them. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>18:35, 21 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::Or just head over to A/VB and request a self imposed ban on them. As long as we're able to confirm they're you, it's no problem if you request it using your current account. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:38, 21 October 2011 (BST)<br />
:::Done. I just don't have access to Bardiclife. Created it a long time ago and either didn't provide email or the email provided is void. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 18:51, 21 October 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Line breaks ==<br />
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So I finally getting around to updating my [[User:TheBardofOld/Juliette Reau|Juliette Reau]] page and I can't remember how to do line breaks like I did for my [[User:TheBardofOld/Derek Sutherland|Derek Sutherland]] character. I did like the wiki cheatsheet described, but I just want a single line break inbetween any two paragraphs. I'm tired of fiddling with it so if someone could either show me how to do it correctly or fix it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 19:50, 3 September 2011 (BST)<br />
:Do you mean '''<nowiki><br></nowiki>'''-tags,<br>which<br>will<br>break<br>down<br>text<br>like<br>this, or do you mean '''four minuses (<nowiki>----</nowiki>)''', which create this<br />
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:break? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 20:00, 3 September 2011 (BST)<br />
::More so the <br>, but about half the line break space. I don't know if I'm just tweaking, but it looks like there's a big difference between the line breaks on my Derek and Juliette pages. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 20:17, 3 September 2011 (BST)<br />
:::The difference comes from using line breaks both in the code _and_ doubled <nowiki><br></nowiki>-tags<br><br><br />
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:::for Juliette, while there are just line breaks in the code<br />
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:::for Derek. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 20:21, 3 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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<b><nowiki><br></nowiki></b> is the easy way to do it. <br />
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If you want a more adjustable space between your lines you can use<b><nowiki><span style="line-height: (number)em;"></nowiki></b> <br />
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Sample Paragraph using <b><nowiki><span style="line-height: 2.5em;"></nowiki>:</b><br />
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<span style="line-height: 2.5em;">California is the most wonderful place to visit because of its variety of weather and its beautiful nature. (subject development) Visitors to California can find any weather they like. They can find cool temperatures in the summer; also they can find warm weather in the winter. They can find places that are difficult for humans to live in the summer because they are so hot. Or they can find places closed in the winter because of the snow. On the other hand, visitors can find the nature they like. They can find high mountains and low valleys. Visitors can find a huge forest, a dead desert, and a beautiful coast.(summary sentence) So California is the most wonderful place to visit because of its weather and nature.<br />
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{{User:Mazu/sig}} 13:12, 4 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== NT Scan ==<br />
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If a user forgets to sign their NTscan is ok to sign it for them? Or is it better to post a reminder on their talk page?<br />
--[[User:Greenwarrior|Greenwarrior]] 08:46, 22 September 2011 (BST)<br />
:use the unsigned template <nowiki>{{unsigned}}</nowiki> that way it's not impersonation.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>10:02, 22 September 2011 (bst)</small><br />
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ok, thank you for the advice<br />
--[[User:Greenwarrior|Greenwarrior]] 09:58, 24 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== User Category? ==<br />
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can a user have his/her own category? and is that considered vain? i want my own category to shorten my watchlist. i have the template pages i've created, my sigs, images i've uploaded, and my alt pages...and i don't want to "watch" them anymore. {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} 22:06, 25 October 2011 (BST)<br />
:Yep. [[:Category:Vapor|You sure can]]. I don't consider it vain, just an easy way for me to keep track of images and pages I've created. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>22:12, 25 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::excellent. thanks Vapor. and for some reason i think your name is Viper. if i've ever typed Viper, my bad. {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} 22:51, 25 October 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Timestamp ==<br />
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and while i'm here...why is the timestamp wiki markup an hour later than the server time? feels like i'm in 3 different time zones. {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} 22:11, 25 October 2011 (BST)<br />
:You're talking about the CURRENTTIME Magic Word, right? I think the reason UTC is used rather than BST/GMT is because Magic Words are serve by MediaWiki and use Universal Time rather than one server in particular. UDWiki used BST/GMT because that's where the server is. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>22:16, 25 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::You can use the LOCALTIME magic word rather than CURRENTTIME to get the server time, though. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>22:18, 25 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::i use <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> which is UTC, i think, but has (BST) in it. {{CURRENTTIME}} (current time) is the same as the server time and {{LOCALTIME}} (local time) is the same as <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>. so if i use the CT magic word i'll be an hour behind now. {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} {{CURRENTTIME}}<br />
::::Oh ok sorry, I didn't realize you meant the 5 tilde wikicode. UDWiki uses the local time in London, England which, at this time is BST (UTC+1:00). When you use five tildes, it will produce the this time. Coincidentally, BST ends in 4 days from now on October 30th, at which time the server time will be at UTC (also known as GMT) once again. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:57, 26 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::::It also occurs to me that you may be confused because Recent Changes and Page History use your personal settings to display time. By default, this is set to GMT, which is at the moment 1 hour behind server time. You can change this in [[Special:Preferences|your preferences]] from the Date & Time tab. Just set it to use Europe/London and you're recent changes and history pages will match time stamps. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:06, 26 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::::thanks for explaining. {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} 12:22, 26 October 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Accidentally made two accounts. Whoops. ==<br />
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So, apparently after a year or two gone from my aClashInRedSnow account, I completely forgot that I had an existing UDWiki account and created a new one. [[User:Nic_LesFlics|This username]] is the secondary one - it has some stuff on there that I forgot about and might wind up using, but I figured I should mention somewhere that this secondary account exists, and that I'm the creator of any content and edits made by that account. Is there something I ought to do with it? Transfer the content over from the userpage and disable the account or something? DON'T THROW ME IN INTERNET JAIL &ndash; {{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 19:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Posting from the alternate account to confirm. Behold, sockpuppetry. &ndash; {{User:Nic LesFlics/Signature}} 19:28, 5 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::as far as I know on this wiki it's okay to have multiple accounts. as long as you don't use them for sockpuppetry you are in the clear. just pick one for voting on stuff and stick with it.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>19:37, 5 February 2012 (bst)</small><br />
:::Sweet. Now to abandon this account because the other one has a cooler name. &ndash; {{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 19:55, 5 February 2012 (UTC)</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Wiki_Questions&diff=1977932UDWiki:Wiki Questions2012-02-05T19:25:00Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: /* Accidentally made two accounts. Whoops. */ new section</p>
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== Spambits ==<br />
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Is it possible to limit page creation to autoconfirmed users? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 19:37, 19 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:Yeah but Kevan has to do it. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::{{Grr}} {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 19:51, 19 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::There's discussion about it somewhere. I think the argument was that autoconfirmed users are those with 25 edits or one week under their belt and there are loads of non-spambit users we'd be fucking over by making them wait a week. I think there is a way to limit adding external links to autoconfirmed and probably even possible to whitelist certain domains (like urbandead.com). Still might limit some legitimate users and would still require Kevan's hand. I'll see if I can link you to the discussion. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>20:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::Well the discussion seems to be spread out through several policy discussion pages. The most recent one came just after the wiki software update ([[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Semi-protection#Ideas_for_implimentation|recent and relevant info]]). There was also [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Autoconfirmed Group|three]] [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Autoconfirmed Group 2|separate]] [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Autoconfirmed Group Trial|policy discussions]] specifically addressing autoconfirmed. Uhh, I'm sure your question is probably in the somewhere but short answer is it's ultimately up to Kevan. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>20:31, 19 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:The answer is: yes, you can. The 'create page' ability is a seperate permission which could be un-assigned to the 'users' group and given to the 'autoconfirmed' group. However, I'd be unwilling to do that given the disruption it would cause newbies (why should they have to make 25 edits to a wiki they really aren't interested in just so they can create a group page?)<br />
:If we were going to do it then we'd probably have to create a new "page creation requests" page.<br />
:For the record, autoconfirmed groups were originally envision purely for use with semi-protection. 'Autoconfirmed' is granted after one week and 25 edits.--{{User:The General/sig}} 03:55, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::The only way I'd see to make it feasible would be to limit page creation in the main namespace to auto-confirmed users and then adding in a group namespace for all groups to occupy which wouldn't require auto-confirmed status. In that way people who create a wiki account only to create and maintain a group page wouldn't be hindered and no new requests page would be needed (only very special cases possibly). But I couldn't imagine all the page moves and broken links(unless redirects always happen with page moves?) that would be required *shudders* >.> {{User:Mazu/sig}} 04:07, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::Loosen the autoconfirm criteria then (I'm pretty sure it's do-able, given that it's ''one'' day on the big wiki). With the time issue reduced, 25 edits really isn't a lot if you edit your userpage, add links to your new group to places, and ''then'' create it. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 04:09, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::Considering most spambits wait a few hours to post their page and that's the only edit they make removing the time limit and just make 5 or 10 edits the requirement. Heck if you want to keep the purpose of the current auto-confirmed group just make a second group that you'll earn with very little effort (such as 5 or 10 edits) to thwart the spambits. You could even name it aptly '''"You not a spambit yay!"'''{{User:Mazu/sig}} 04:20, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::Second group is possible but requires some fiddling by Kevan.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:28, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::It's ''4 days'' on Wikipedia. The '''whole purpose''' of the autoconfirmed is to protect highly visible pages from vandals, so we can't really change that - it would make semi-protection useless.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:28, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::It's doable, but quite complicated and so goodluck getting Kevan to do it.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:28, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::I'm pretty sure that with the way Kevan configured our wiki during the update (which was likely nearly entirely the default configuration) changing group permissions has not been enabled for any level of user (including crat). Crats can assign permissions to specific user by adding or removing them from a specific group but they can't change the actual permissions. $wgGroupPermissions would need to be configured differently before we could go changing group permissions. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>07:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::Yeah, giving crats the ability to change group permissions is pretty unusual for most wikis.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:28, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::Oh ok, sorry I thought you meant it was something we could do ourselves in your comments above. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>14:18, 20 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::::Nah, none of these usergroup changes can be done by us. At best, we might be able to convince Kevan to let the 'crats have the power to create/alter usergroups; but that'd still require a fair bit of fiddling from him.--{{User:The General/sig}} 02:19, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::What about one edit? People could just create a user page. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 10:32, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::Yeah, we could. I am thoroughly against using the autoconfirmed group for that, though. We should set up a separate group if we're going to so it.--{{User:The General/sig}} 10:55, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::Doing that would work wonders; can only create a page after one edit. In the restrictive system message for the "sorry you cannot create the page you're trying to make you need X edits", just add a link to the [[Sandbox]] or something, easy enough. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 14:47, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::I'd be for a separate group. Maybe just "confirmed users". Some spambits would likely still find a way by spamming existing articles rather than creating new ones. We already see that in some cases though its more rare. I still think we should explore the option of limiting who can add external links. I think that's an option on the reCapcha extension we have. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:07, 20 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::::::So Kevan forming a second group with the page creation permission to be earned with 5 edits would kill about all spambits. Then making it so users not in the auto-confirmed group have to enter a reCapcha to post an external link(s)? Sounds simple and solid to me.{{User:Mazu/sig}} 22:34, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::::...are you kidding? I'd rather it be the way it is now, instead of spammers going: "''Hmm. I can't make '''new''' pages, so I guess I'll just start overwriting '''currently existing pages'''.''" --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:33, 20 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::::::You figure they'd send updated bits to our little wiki? I'd say there are bigger fish to fry {{User:Mazu/sig}} 00:52, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::::::I'm not a programmer but I'd imagine spambots don't actually have anywhere near that sort of intelligence. P sure they are kamikaze bots designed to just make one page then make another if they havent been banned within the minute. If you find an actual spambot smart enough to have the line of thought you've just hypothesized above then tell me and I'll give it a medal. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 00:54, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::Actually the old bots used to do exactly that and it's not something that would even be code intensive really. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 19:03, 22 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::There is likely some human intervention involved with the bits. That's how they get past recapcha for account creation. Companies will pay people in china and african nations to solve the capchas. I think the going rate is 5 american cents per 1000 capchas solved. Would they pay the extra monies to solve the extra capchas? I don't know. We really don't know how the bits would react. I actually share Akule's concerns. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:12, 21 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::::::::::::If we were to go through with some change i'd recommend doing only the change to adding urls at first since that works across the board without changing permissions. If we're lucky and it snuffs the bits we don't need to change anything else.if we're not, then we can consider adding the new group. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:27, 21 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::::::::::::Yeah I was referring to the programmers/companies updating their bits :P Just be sure only users not in the auto confirmed group have to enter capchas. I hate those things and so does everyone else.{{User:Mazu/sig}} 01:37, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::::::Just to say: It is perfectly possible to use a piece of logic which says "if <can create page> = true; create new page" and then "If <can create page> = false; goto Special:Random; edit page" (I could even give you proof-of-concept code to do it). Whether or not most of the bots are that complicated is another matter (I'd guess "no", but that is only a guess). Adding a captcha when adding external links for non-autoconfirmed users is a setting in our captcha extension; it's a matter of toggling an option on. I doubt it will have much effect, though, given that the only bot which actually seems phased by a captcha would be mine.--{{User:The General/sig}} 02:19, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::That's because your not making your bot run the capcha by younto solve them. Even sophisticated black-hat linkspamming programs like {{WP|XRumer}} supposedly use a mix of human and machine to do their evil bidding. I don't know if it would help either but as you said it would be easy to toggle on, it would work well with the autoconfirm settings already in place, and even sysops would have some control over what is allowed through whitelisting. It couldn't hurt to try it. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>02:56, 21 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::::::::::True, and it's not worth the hassle to make it work: It only becomes a problem when I mistype my password and the captcha springs up. Yeah, I believe that's the easiest way to do it. Fun fact: The framework that I use is actually capable of solving several types of captcha on its own; reCaptcha just happens to be one of the types that is impervious to it.--{{User:The General/sig}} 03:03, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::Random thought: The best anti-bot measures are actually the ones that ask questions or give maths problems because they block essentially all auto-solving bots and merely leave the human-solving ones.--{{User:The General/sig}} 03:06, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::::That might be something to request. I think it is also a fairly straightforward change. Would you mind doing the honors of requesting the changes fro Kevan. You seemed to have said the magic words last time. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>03:11, 21 July 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::::::::::::: 2+2=<>< will foil all bots! :D {{User:Mazu/sig}} 03:24, 21 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Bardiclife ==<br />
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Is there a way to figure out if the account "Bardiclife" that I'm 99.99% sure I created before this one is still around? I tried creating the account, but the user name exists, yet, I can't find it on the user hub or user namespaces. <br />
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Or...is there a way to change my username "<s>TheBardofAwesome</s>" to "Bardiclife" without creating another account?<br />
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Thanks. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 18:21, 12 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:[[User:Bardiclife]] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=Bardiclife&group=&limit=100 was created] on 20 February 2010 at 01:49. If you provided an email address when you signed up, you can request that your password is reset. Otherwise, there is no way of regaining control of that account, unfortunately. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>18:43, 12 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::Is there any way for a sysop to change the email address of that account or tell me what email address was used? I have about seven email addresses that I might have used. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 19:05, 12 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:::I'm afraid not. We don't have access to your personal information. I can tell you that it is not likely that you ever provided an email address on that account. Usually, when a user provides an email address, there will be a link on the side bar when viewing their userpages that says "Email this User". [[User:Bardiclife]] does not have that link. That's not to say you didn't provide an email and then unchecked the option preferences to allow users to email you, but that's not the most likely situation. I'm afraid that you probably no longer have access to that account. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:26, 12 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
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:::I think your best bet is to just try logging in with the username Bardiclife using passwords you think you may have used. If you just can't remember, click the "email new password" button on the login screen and check each of your email accounts. The login screen may even tell you if you don't have an email address on file. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:39, 12 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::I've tried all of the passwords that I could think of-been changing passwords a lot and checked out all possible email addresses that I remember but no luck. Anything else I can do? I mean, I wouldn't mind having the username Bardiclife deleted. I just don't want to take that route if I haven't exhausted all of my options. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 21:20, 12 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::Deleting users from the wiki isn't possible, I'm afraid. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::::The only one who can delete accounts is Kevan, so we SysOps aren't able to delete accounts. Block them, yes. Delete them, no. If you're worried about your other account getting hacked and afraid the blame will be placed on you, you can always request that the other account get blocked. That's what I did for the account I created a few weeks before this Axe Hack account. I forgot the password and requested the other account be blocked so that it won't go on a spam spree and link back to me if it gets hacked. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:40, 12 August 2011 (BST)<br />
::::::I'm not so worried about the account getting hacked, moreso not being able to access my oldest account on the wiki. An account whose name isn't so...vain as <s>TheBardofAwesome</s> is. Nothing serious, just quirky stuff. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 01:12, 13 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:::::::I'd just say make a new account if you want a name change. TheBardofOld has a decent ring to it and isn't vain. Although I can't think of a word but a more archaic term might fit better. Or you could just pull a [[User:MisterGame|Thad]] and use an alias. {{User:Mazu/sig}} 04:33, 13 August 2011 (BST)<br />
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BTW, it would be possible to change account names with the use of an extension.--{{User:The General/sig}} 15:54, 13 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:Let's not even go there. Of all the wiki updates needed, that's really low in priority. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>18:33, 13 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::Just mentioning it; this problem has come up a couple of times now. It'd also take about 5 minutes to perform.--{{User:The General/sig}} 19:56, 13 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:::Yeah I know. I just get nervous at the idea of requesting more wiki updates. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>20:23, 13 August 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::Adding that ability would be a sign of *cue dramatic music* {{Misconbitragnarok}} *gasp* {{User:Mazu/sig}} 04:26, 14 August 2011 (BST)<br />
:Would anyone with the ability to lock accounts, mind locking the users TheBardofAwesome and Bardiclife from future usage? I don't want them to cause a problem, should someone else gain access to them and use them for evil. Thanks. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 18:14, 21 October 2011 (BST)<br />
::Log into the wiki with those accounts and head over to [[A/VB]] and request a self imposed ban on them. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>18:35, 21 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::Or just head over to A/VB and request a self imposed ban on them. As long as we're able to confirm they're you, it's no problem if you request it using your current account. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:38, 21 October 2011 (BST)<br />
:::Done. I just don't have access to Bardiclife. Created it a long time ago and either didn't provide email or the email provided is void. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 18:51, 21 October 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Line breaks ==<br />
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So I finally getting around to updating my [[User:TheBardofOld/Juliette Reau|Juliette Reau]] page and I can't remember how to do line breaks like I did for my [[User:TheBardofOld/Derek Sutherland|Derek Sutherland]] character. I did like the wiki cheatsheet described, but I just want a single line break inbetween any two paragraphs. I'm tired of fiddling with it so if someone could either show me how to do it correctly or fix it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 19:50, 3 September 2011 (BST)<br />
:Do you mean '''<nowiki><br></nowiki>'''-tags,<br>which<br>will<br>break<br>down<br>text<br>like<br>this, or do you mean '''four minuses (<nowiki>----</nowiki>)''', which create this<br />
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:break? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 20:00, 3 September 2011 (BST)<br />
::More so the <br>, but about half the line break space. I don't know if I'm just tweaking, but it looks like there's a big difference between the line breaks on my Derek and Juliette pages. --[[User:TheBardofOld|TheBardofOld]] 20:17, 3 September 2011 (BST)<br />
:::The difference comes from using line breaks both in the code _and_ doubled <nowiki><br></nowiki>-tags<br><br><br />
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:::for Juliette, while there are just line breaks in the code<br />
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:::for Derek. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 20:21, 3 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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<b><nowiki><br></nowiki></b> is the easy way to do it. <br />
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If you want a more adjustable space between your lines you can use<b><nowiki><span style="line-height: (number)em;"></nowiki></b> <br />
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Sample Paragraph using <b><nowiki><span style="line-height: 2.5em;"></nowiki>:</b><br />
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<span style="line-height: 2.5em;">California is the most wonderful place to visit because of its variety of weather and its beautiful nature. (subject development) Visitors to California can find any weather they like. They can find cool temperatures in the summer; also they can find warm weather in the winter. They can find places that are difficult for humans to live in the summer because they are so hot. Or they can find places closed in the winter because of the snow. On the other hand, visitors can find the nature they like. They can find high mountains and low valleys. Visitors can find a huge forest, a dead desert, and a beautiful coast.(summary sentence) So California is the most wonderful place to visit because of its weather and nature.<br />
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{{User:Mazu/sig}} 13:12, 4 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== NT Scan ==<br />
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If a user forgets to sign their NTscan is ok to sign it for them? Or is it better to post a reminder on their talk page?<br />
--[[User:Greenwarrior|Greenwarrior]] 08:46, 22 September 2011 (BST)<br />
:use the unsigned template <nowiki>{{unsigned}}</nowiki> that way it's not impersonation.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>10:02, 22 September 2011 (bst)</small><br />
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ok, thank you for the advice<br />
--[[User:Greenwarrior|Greenwarrior]] 09:58, 24 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== User Category? ==<br />
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can a user have his/her own category? and is that considered vain? i want my own category to shorten my watchlist. i have the template pages i've created, my sigs, images i've uploaded, and my alt pages...and i don't want to "watch" them anymore. {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} 22:06, 25 October 2011 (BST)<br />
:Yep. [[:Category:Vapor|You sure can]]. I don't consider it vain, just an easy way for me to keep track of images and pages I've created. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>22:12, 25 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::excellent. thanks Vapor. and for some reason i think your name is Viper. if i've ever typed Viper, my bad. {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} 22:51, 25 October 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Timestamp ==<br />
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and while i'm here...why is the timestamp wiki markup an hour later than the server time? feels like i'm in 3 different time zones. {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} 22:11, 25 October 2011 (BST)<br />
:You're talking about the CURRENTTIME Magic Word, right? I think the reason UTC is used rather than BST/GMT is because Magic Words are serve by MediaWiki and use Universal Time rather than one server in particular. UDWiki used BST/GMT because that's where the server is. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>22:16, 25 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::You can use the LOCALTIME magic word rather than CURRENTTIME to get the server time, though. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>22:18, 25 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::i use <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> which is UTC, i think, but has (BST) in it. {{CURRENTTIME}} (current time) is the same as the server time and {{LOCALTIME}} (local time) is the same as <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>. so if i use the CT magic word i'll be an hour behind now. {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} {{CURRENTTIME}}<br />
::::Oh ok sorry, I didn't realize you meant the 5 tilde wikicode. UDWiki uses the local time in London, England which, at this time is BST (UTC+1:00). When you use five tildes, it will produce the this time. Coincidentally, BST ends in 4 days from now on October 30th, at which time the server time will be at UTC (also known as GMT) once again. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:57, 26 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
:::::It also occurs to me that you may be confused because Recent Changes and Page History use your personal settings to display time. By default, this is set to GMT, which is at the moment 1 hour behind server time. You can change this in [[Special:Preferences|your preferences]] from the Date & Time tab. Just set it to use Europe/London and you're recent changes and history pages will match time stamps. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:06, 26 October 2011 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::::thanks for explaining. {{User:Son of Sin/sig}} 12:22, 26 October 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Accidentally made two accounts. Whoops. ==<br />
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So, apparently after a year or two gone from my aClashInRedSnow account, I completely forgot that I had an existing UDWiki account and created a new one. [[User:Nic_LesFlics|This username]] is the secondary one - it has some stuff on there that I forgot about and might wind up using, but I figured I should mention somewhere that this secondary account exists, and that I'm the creator of any content and edits made by that account. Is there something I ought to do with it? Transfer the content over from the userpage and disable the account or something? DON'T THROW ME IN INTERNET JAIL &ndash; {{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 19:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:AClashInRedSnow/Characters&diff=1977845User:AClashInRedSnow/Characters2012-02-05T04:10:01Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Edit to my character page.</p>
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Would it be possible to cross reference the current statuses with either suburb news, danger reports or EMRs, either through clever templating or bot-related shenanigans?--[[User:Shortround|Shortround]] 09:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I think the idea is just to remove the "current status" section entirely and rely on the Building Information Centre. Keep in mind most of those pages had the status section added before the BIC was a thing that existed. It's redundant now, though if there is something that is for whatever reason notable it could probably just get added to a history section.--{{User:Labine50/sig}} 05:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Step 2: ..., Step 3: Profit? ==<br />
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Not to kid too much, but what are the next steps? How about outlining a complete plan so that you can get some discussion going, rather than just suggesting one change? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:32, 3 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for your interest Aichon. Yeah I totally agree a complete plan would be great but my hope was that it could come about via discussion and consensus rather than by diktat. Since you asked though, what I had originally envisaged was a culling of all the extraneous and unneeded rubbish that has accumulated over the years and then from there seeing what can be built upon and expanded. <br />
: To give you an idea, what I was hoping to do with the location pages was to remove all the out of date status and metagame information which is better located elsewhere, and then once that was done create a "bank" of flavour text which can be used as building blocks to create histories of each location in the game. From there, who knows what could be cleaned up next. [[User:Gordon|Gordon]] 20:04, 4 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Well, for my first comment since coming back to UD after a long hiatus - I'm totally supportive of this proposed project. Current Status seems completely redundant (and frequently detrimental) when there exist simpler and more accurate ways to check the status of locations. I don't have any idea of other things that could be pruned from the Wiki, but the general concept seems like a good one and I think it should be explored further. I'd say people ought to propose any other features of the Wiki that are systemically ignored and practically useless. – {{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 02:32, 5 February 2012 (UTC)</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:AClashInRedSnow/sig&diff=1977821User:AClashInRedSnow/sig2012-02-05T02:26:25Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: </p>
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coordinates=7,35|<br />
NW_location=[[Hartry Crescent]]|NW_color=Street|<br />
N_location=[[The Fortune Building]]|N_color=Building|<br />
NE_location=[[Dunell Hills Parks#Blight Park|Blight Park]]|NE_color=Park|<br />
W_location=[[Billet Auto Repair]]|W_color=Auto Repair|<br />
This_location=Broadbelt Grove Police Department|location_color=Police Dept|<br />
location_type=Police Department|<br />
E_location=[[Wasteland 8,35|wasteland]]|E_color=Wasteland|<br />
SW_location=[[Zephyrinus General Hospital (Dunell Hills)|Zephyrinus General Hospital]]|SW_color=Hospital|<br />
S_location=[[Club Meade]]|S_color=Club|<br />
SE_location=[[Coorte Square]]|SE_color=Street<br />
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==Description==<br />
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Located in suburb of [[Dunell Hills]] in [[Malton]] this police station is located at [7, 35].<br />
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==History==<br />
At this moment (December 28th, 2008), Broadbelt Grove Police Department and the area surrounding it has been claimed as a precinct of the [[Dunell Hills Police Department]]. The Precinct's head is in charge of Broadbelt Precinct Station's operations, security and resources. See [[DHPD Broadbelt Grove Precinct]] for more details.<br />
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==Barricading Policy==<br />
According to the [[DHPD]]'s [[Dunell_Hills/Barricade_Plan|barricade plan]], this location should be maintained at VSB+2 at all times to allow [[survivor]] entry.<br />
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==Current Status==<br />
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{{Amusing Location}}<br />
[[Category:Dunell Hills]]<br />
[[Category:Police Departments]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Cotty_Street_Police_Department&diff=1348507Cotty Street Police Department2008-12-29T00:09:05Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Theeere we go. Fixed a category.</p>
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location_type=Police Department|<br />
NW_location=[[St Luke's Church]]|NW_color=Church|<br />
N_location=[[Raynols Boulevard]]|N_color=Street|<br />
NE_location=[[the Puckle Monument]]|NE_color=Monument|<br />
W_location=[[the Jacomb Arms]]|W_color=Arms|<br />
This_location=Cotty Street Police Department|location_color=Police Dept|<br />
E_location=[[Factory 2,33|a factory]]|E_color=Factory|<br />
SW_location=[[Gould Walk]]|SW_color=Street|<br />
S_location=[[the Heal Museum]]|S_color=Museum|<br />
SE_location=[[Combe Lane (Dunell Hills)|Combe Lane]]|SE_color=Street<br />
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==Description==<br />
(needs internal description!)<br />
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Located in suburb of [[Dunell Hills]] in [[Malton]] this police station is located at [1, 33].<br />
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==History==<br />
At this moment (December 28th, 2008), Cotty Street Police Department and the area surrounding it has been claimed as a precinct of the [[Dunell Hills Police Department]]. The Precinct's head is in charge of Cotty Precinct Station's operations, security and resources. See [[DHPD Cotty Street Precinct]] for more details.<br />
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==Barricading Policy==<br />
According to the [[DHPD]]'s [[Dunell_Hills/Barricade_Plan|barricade plan]], this location should be maintained at VSB+2 at all times to allow [[survivor]] entry.<br />
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==Current Status==<br />
(needs status update!)<br />
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[[Category:Dunell Hills]]<br />
[[Category:Police Departments]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Broadbelt_Grove_Police_Department&diff=1348506Broadbelt Grove Police Department2008-12-29T00:07:32Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Trying to fix the inclusion of a broken/unused category.</p>
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SE_location=[[Coorte Square]]|SE_color=Street<br />
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==Description==<br />
(needs internal description!)<br />
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Located in suburb of [[Dunell Hills]] in [[Malton]] this police station is located at [7, 35].<br />
<br />
==History==<br />
At this moment (December 28th, 2008), Broadbelt Grove Police Department and the area surrounding it has been claimed as a precinct of the [[Dunell Hills Police Department]]. The Precinct's head is in charge of Broadbelt Precinct Station's operations, security and resources. See [[DHPD Broadbelt Grove Precinct]] for more details.<br />
<br />
==Barricading Policy==<br />
According to the [[DHPD]]'s [[Dunell_Hills/Barricade_Plan|barricade plan]], this location should be maintained at VSB+2 at all times to allow [[survivor]] entry.<br />
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==Current Status==<br />
(needs status update!)<br />
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{{Amusing Location}}<br />
[[Category:Dunell Hills]]<br />
[[Category:Police Departments]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Cotty_Street_Police_Department&diff=1348505Cotty Street Police Department2008-12-29T00:07:29Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Trying to fix the inclusion of a broken/unused category.</p>
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NE_location=[[the Puckle Monument]]|NE_color=Monument|<br />
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SE_location=[[Combe Lane (Dunell Hills)|Combe Lane]]|SE_color=Street<br />
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==Description==<br />
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Located in suburb of [[Dunell Hills]] in [[Malton]] this police station is located at [1, 33].<br />
<br />
==History==<br />
At this moment (December 28th, 2008), Cotty Street Police Department and the area surrounding it has been claimed as a precinct of the [[Dunell Hills Police Department]]. The Precinct's head is in charge of Cotty Precinct Station's operations, security and resources. See [[DHPD Cotty Street Precinct]] for more details.<br />
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==Barricading Policy==<br />
According to the [[DHPD]]'s [[Dunell_Hills/Barricade_Plan|barricade plan]], this location should be maintained at VSB+2 at all times to allow [[survivor]] entry.<br />
<br />
==Current Status==<br />
(needs status update!)<br />
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[[Category:Dunell Hills]]<br />
[[Category:Police Departments]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Cotty_Street_Police_Department&diff=1348499Cotty Street Police Department2008-12-29T00:04:47Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Updated to LSG standard.</p>
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SE_location=[[Combe Lane (Dunell Hills)|Combe Lane]]|SE_color=Street<br />
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==Description==<br />
(needs internal description!)<br />
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Located in suburb of [[Dunell Hills]] in [[Malton]] this police station is located at [1, 33].<br />
<br />
==History==<br />
At this moment (December 28th, 2008), Cotty Street Police Department and the area surrounding it has been claimed as a precinct of the [[Dunell Hills Police Department]]. The Precinct's head is in charge of Cotty Precinct Station's operations, security and resources. See [[DHPD Cotty Street Precinct]] for more details.<br />
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==Barricading Policy==<br />
According to the [[DHPD]]'s [[Dunell_Hills/Barricade_Plan|barricade plan]], this location should be maintained at VSB+2 at all times to allow [[survivor]] entry.<br />
<br />
==Current Status==<br />
(needs status update!)<br />
<br />
[[Category:Dunell Hills]]<br />
[[Category:Police Departments]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Broadbelt_Grove_Police_Department&diff=1348498Broadbelt Grove Police Department2008-12-29T00:04:46Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Updated to LSG standard.</p>
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suburb=Dunell Hills|<br />
coordinates=7,35|<br />
NW_location=[[Hartry Crescent]]|NW_color=Street|<br />
N_location=[[The Fortune Building]]|N_color=Building|<br />
NE_location=[[Dunell Hills Parks#Blight Park|Blight Park]]|NE_color=Park|<br />
W_location=[[Billet Auto Repair]]|W_color=Auto Repair|<br />
This_location=Broadbelt Grove Police Department|location_color=Police Station|<br />
location_type=Police Station|<br />
E_location=[[Wasteland 8,35|wasteland]]|E_color=Wasteland|<br />
SW_location=[[Zephyrinus General Hospital (Dunell Hills)|Zephyrinus General Hospital]]|SW_color=Hospital|<br />
S_location=[[Club Meade]]|S_color=Club|<br />
SE_location=[[Coorte Square]]|SE_color=Street<br />
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==Description==<br />
(needs internal description!)<br />
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Located in suburb of [[Dunell Hills]] in [[Malton]] this police station is located at [7, 35].<br />
<br />
==History==<br />
At this moment (December 28th, 2008), Broadbelt Grove Police Department and the area surrounding it has been claimed as a precinct of the [[Dunell Hills Police Department]]. The Precinct's head is in charge of Broadbelt Precinct Station's operations, security and resources. See [[DHPD Broadbelt Grove Precinct]] for more details.<br />
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==Barricading Policy==<br />
According to the [[DHPD]]'s [[Dunell_Hills/Barricade_Plan|barricade plan]], this location should be maintained at VSB+2 at all times to allow [[survivor]] entry.<br />
<br />
==Current Status==<br />
(needs status update!)<br />
<br />
{{Amusing Location}}<br />
[[Category:Dunell Hills]]<br />
[[Category:Police Departments]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:Dunell_Hills_Police_Department&diff=1348099Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department2008-12-28T13:31:49Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Cleaning up a mess of redirects!</p>
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=Your Message Begins Here=<br />
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== Cosa Nostra: Possible Alliance? ==<br />
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Hello, I am the Don of all Malton. Well, more like Chudleyton but all will be ruled by the Don and Cosa Nostra. :) We are small obviously but want to have allies now rather than later. Were Pro-Survivor, defending Chudleyton from the enemy Mafioso (Zombies). We do however maintain our own list of Wanted As well as the Rogues Gallery, and Allied Pker lists. So we could be called Bhers. As well as Pkers since we claim All. Whichever you want to call us, we want to be all of yours friends. :) We currently keep Club Hodson in Chudleyton as a base of operations. (Though were Mafioso we have a deep respect for the Law) ;)Hope to hear back from you soon. [[User:Don Al Capone|Don Al Capone]] 16:41, 26 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Warrants==<br />
DCC will be glad she got a permanent warrant finally! --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 14:15, 5 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Hey, nothing but the best for DCC. --[[User:Jim_Extreme|Jim Extreme]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jim_Extreme|Talk]] | [[DHPD|DHPD]]</sup> 07:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Attack on Ackland Security Commander==<br />
An officer identified as one VeryFlash (http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=94289) attacked and killed me in action near Marven Mall with absolutely no warning or provocation. He was carrying identification as a DHPD officer according to his profile. Can DHPD confirm that he's an officer? If he is, I would like to know why a DHPD officer targeted Ackland Mall Security's commanding officer. [[User:Tarumigan|Tarumigan]] 4:41, 16 April 2008 (EST)<br />
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Another one of the Dead's Impersonators... Blast His Ass!!! --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 21:54, 16 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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:Marty is right Tarumigan. Its a member of the dead's pking squad masquerading as [[BPE|Barricade Policy Enforcement]] or whatever. They are busy griefing the DHPD and use our group name in their profiles all the time. You can see our REAL roster here http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/DHPD/Department_of_Internal_Affairs That is the closest to an active roster as you'll find for the DHPD. Report them to Rogues and kill them and any BPE group member you see.--{{User:Showcase/sig}} 01:27, 17 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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==Archiving==<br />
Everything is archived. Discontinue your ranting because it is falling onto deaf ears now. <br />
View the archive [[DHPD/Archive|here]] -- [[User:Cisisero|Cisisero]] 10:31, 6 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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== NPOV == <br />
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I would refer you to [[Groups|this explanation]] of the UD wiki's NPOV policy for group pages. <br />
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Both A Helpful Little Gnome and myself have noted on a couple of occasions recently that your NPOV section contains POV statements. Spefically, the second paragraph: ''"Click here to join the DHPD. Read DHPD Testimonials for an inside look at the DHPD".'' This is recruitment, not a verifiable statement of fact. Also, this part of the third paragraph -- ''"They still operate in an independent fashion, but their ability to communicate makes them an incredibly sweet, well oiled, and highly lubricated zombie-killing machine"'' -- is non-verifiable and therefore not NPOV. <br />
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As the [[Groups]] page explains, you can have further sections below the NPOV blurb that may be POV. All that is required, therefore, is that you move the "offending" passages out of the NPOV section and into a different, seperate section. That way, your page will conform to the format that all other groups on the wiki are asked to adhere to.<br />
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Thank you for your attention. <br />
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--[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 12:10, 6 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Ravenwood Security Solutions ==<br />
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Greeting DHPD officers.<br />
We here at Ravenwood Security Solutions, Under the Juristictions of Jennings And Rall INC(J&R) and The United Nations Have been employed to Keep the general Peace in your Suburbs.<br />
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Our objective is not individual, but Whole group recruitments as our past experience has shown.<br />
You would retain FULL Squad Control,Ranks,Names,ECT.. BUT-we ask of you 2 Men/Women on a permanent Basis(we dont care if you send alts) To keep diplomatic ties between Groups.<br />
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These would be Full Fledged Recruits onto Ravenwood Security Solutions International, and thus forward under our General Command.<br />
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Our second Objective is Complete restoration, as stated in our Guideline.<br />
This can only be done if all people who are for our survival are working together,and not apart. <br />
We can achieve this by simply coordinating tactical strikes,repairs and revives.<br />
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Please send at least 2 Representatives to [http://www.Ravenwood.tk Our Forum] or to [[Ravenwood]],our wiki page.<br />
Please note-as Just arriving in your Suburbs, our Page is relatively new, and therefore will grow around and with you.<br />
Also, failure to comply will most likely mean your termination of supplies and AID from any Held Ravenwood Suburbs, and Subsequent Death Upon Entrance.<br />
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Have a pleasant Day, Look forward to working with you folks at<br />
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DHPD<br />
--[[User:PotHeadDan|PotHeadDan]] 10:17, 6 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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:We'll send someone over ASAP. Good to see ya. :) -- [[User:Cisisero|Cisisero]] 10:56, 6 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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::What the hell? Was that a force group join through force? - [[User:Tylerisfat|tylerisfat]] 22:48, 21 October 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Honest question here ==<br />
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Why the heck does a police department identify itself with a presidential assassin? [[User:Redead13|Redead13]] 05:11, 10 April 2008 (BST)<br />
:Let me answer your question with another question. Would other groups, such as your own, possibly have more active/higher authority figures that we might like to kill over and over? Ponder and let me know. -- [[User:Cisisero|Cisisero]] 07:26, 10 April 2008 (BST)<br />
::Awesomely deep brosef! [[User:Redead13|Redead13]] 07:40, 10 April 2008 (BST)<br />
:::As for an answer we might. You guys got any breathers with shotguns to shoot them with? That's a very important question as well. [[User:Redead13|Redead13]] 18:13, 10 April 2008 (BST)<br />
::::Yes. Thank you for your question. --{{User:Showcase/sig}} 18:27, 10 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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== honest dumb questions here ==<br />
Isn't trying to delete a large swath of comments without an archive immediately bad faith? [[User:Redead13|Redead13]] 17:42, 10 April 2008 (BST)<br />
:Not when they are meaningless comments. -- [[User:Cisisero|Cisisero]] 19:55, 10 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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{{DramaLlama}}<br />
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Further flaming and trolling can be done on user talk pages. If its done here, it will be deleted. Thank you.--{{User:Showcase/sig}} 17:59, 10 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Officer Kerry PKer? ==<br />
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Ruan, a member of my team, was PKed by [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1209996 Officer Kerry] who claims to be a member of your team. He has posted [http://z14.invisionfree.com/Brainstock/index.php?s=24cff2a8a6f28a2d1eae6f0486c137c5&showtopic=8762&st=165&#entry11477235 the evidence on Brainstock]. Officer Kerry does not have a record on the rogues gallery. She gave me no reason for the killing. Ruan would like a response from someone on your team via PM on Brainstock. Thanks, -[[User:ZaqWer|ZaqWer]] 03:12, 15 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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:Never Heard of an Officer Kerry... what suburb was this in? if it is outside the [[DMZ]] then fire at will... because none of our recruits are out there... only the expeditionary force... and I know all of those guys... anywho... someone from command should respond soon...<br />
:PS: If they don't leave me a message on my talk page or pop into the forum... --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 03:16, 15 April 2008 (BST)<br />
::ZaqWer, I posted on your talk page but I'll respond here as well so other groups and individuals know... Officer Kerry is not a member of the DHPD, rather they are a member of the PKer group of [[The Dead|The Dead]]. Currently they are mostly operating in the SW around Marven Mall. This zombie/pker group has been griefing the DHPD for months now and it's a common tactic to change their group name to ours when committing crimes. If we can help in the future, feel free to ask. Good luck and happy hunting. --{{User:Showcase/sig}} 13:27, 15 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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== [[Flowers of Disease]] ==<br />
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I must say that your Delta squad has given us a bit of a run, but it looks like the FoD is kicking there asses. I do not find this odd as we are the best in the biz. I will give cu does to Bulldog(C6) though as he has proven to be a fine diplomat and adversary. I think this little game we have been playing will ultimately result in a serious bonus to the survivors in your neck of the woods.<br />
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Sincerely,<br />
--[[User:Roland|Roland]] 03:07, 6 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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:I'm impressed with the performance of some of the members of the DHPD squads. Once they put down their beer steins and the clouds of many ales cleared, they were certainly more lively than the last group we visited (the completely useless Knights Templar of Kempsterbank). I wish to discuss an idea we have been tossing around with Bulldog. Please send him post-haste to the FOD forum. --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 04:52, 6 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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::I would venture to say the tally would be closer if only the Delta kills were tallied. No matter though, it was indeed a fun fight!--[[User:Bulldog C6|Bulldog C6]] 03:39, 7 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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All kills will be tallied and posted on our wiki as soon as is convenient for those responsible for the wiki. I do know that as for myself I had 8 kills and you folks got me 3 times once at a RP as a ZED. So in my mind that makes 2 kills for you, but then again I am [[Roland]] and anything less would be shameful. ;)<br />
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I look forward to seeing you soon..--[[User:Roland|Roland]] 04:23, 7 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Fiat Lux ==<br />
Well, it's been some time<br />
I've come to extend the typical high five to the DHPD for another solid year of surviving<br />
also, an invitation four our latest venture to pay respects to the years we look back on...a festival of light and sound<br />
It's extravaganza number three<br />
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/The_Third_Extravaganza<br />
the angels have been planning this for months now, and I hope you can attend two<br />
we've never one the day without you, and we're naught planning on leaving you behind this time either<br />
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hope you can attend <br />
[[User:PadreRomero|PadreRomero]] 17:57, 7 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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:Will let the rest of the gang know [[User:Sanpedro|Sanpedro]] 01:27, 10 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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== MHG On Tour (Owsleybank) ==<br />
Hello! As probably the biggest MHG supporters in the Northwest (Malton?) for over a year now, I was sure to contact you about this. I'm on a tour of Malton as a representative of MHG, (Not exactly advertised on the wiki, I really need to get on that.) helping the locals with healing and reviving and such. Anyway, I'm making a stop in Owsleybank, and I'm wondering if you have any active personnel there. If they are dead, I'm down to 2 needles from a prior visit to Nixbank but if they [[Pay It Forward]] it might work out. If they are still alive, we should really try to coordinate. If you don't have any personnel, I'll be sure to throw up a tag or two for you. Whatever the case, get back to me.--[[User:Labine50/Jon Evans|Jonny Evans]] 02:50, 11 July 2008 (BST)<br />
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== [[The Great Suburb Group Massacre]] ==<br />
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{Template removed to remove category}--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 22:35, 15 August 2008 (BST)<br />
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Thanks. --{{User:Pedentic/Sig}} 03:18, 31 July 2008 (BST)<br />
: Can confirm this group is active. --[[User:Adavastor|Adavastor]] 03:57, 31 July 2008 (BST)<br />
::Indeed we are [[User:Sanpedro|Sanpedro]] 07:55, 31 July 2008 (BST)<br />
:::Thanks. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:36, 31 July 2008 (BST)<br />
:::: Yeah we're around... great work guys... i think what you're doing is neat... --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 21:07, 6 August 2008 (BST)<br />
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! You are so lucky this says Active and not Effective.--[[Image:Globetrotters_Icon.png|15px|The Malton Globetrotters]] '''[[User:DCC|#99]]''' <sup>DCC <sup><i>SNACK STRONG</i></sup></sup> 07:17, 11 August 2008 (BST)<br />
{{Group Active!}}<br />
--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:31, 19 August 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Thanks Purple Cat ==<br />
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Thank you for your help with the zombie and the heal. I'ld thank you in game, but I'm using up all my AP on the barricades :) [[User:Kevyn Wu|Kevyn Wu]] 05:44, 11 August 2008 (BST)<br />
:All in a days work... To my knowledge she's not on the wiki often... but I'll make sure to send her your thanks... --[[User:MartyBanks|Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) &lt;DHPD&gt;]] 05:47, 11 August 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Malton Uprising ==<br />
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The Dunell Hills Police Department is cordially invited to the [[Malton Uprising]]. {{User:Secruss/Sig}}20:34, 17 August 2008 (BST)<br />
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Thanks but no thanks - anyone spotted pking DEM members within the DMZ will become fair game for DHPD officers. [[User:Sanpedro|Sanpedro]] 05:41, 18 August 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Group page formatting ==<br />
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I really like the style of your page, you guys put a bit of effort into it and I like it. Congrats :) {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 07:46, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Thank you! --[[User:Jim_Extreme|Jim Extreme]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jim_Extreme|Talk]] | [[DHPD|DHPD]]</sup> 15:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Revive Requests ==<br />
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Your revive request link on the [[Molebank]] suburb page is a bad link. Don't know if it's an isolated event but id thought id let you know. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 23:05, 6 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Links are fixed now, thanks for the heads up. [[User:Jim_Extreme|Jim Extreme]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jim_Extreme|Talk]] | [[DHPD|DHPD]]</sup> 14:32, 7 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== [[The Great Radio Group Massacre]] ==<br />
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{{Radio Active!}}<br />
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Heya, folks. I know it's kind of a random request, but it's for all groups, regardless of size, to help keep the wiki up to date. Are y'all still active and using the frequency? --[[User:Jen|Jen]] 00:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Allow me to take care of a couple of things by saying Yes... The DHPD is still active and Does in fact still use both the frequencies attributed to the group. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 04:03, 15 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for the response, and I'll keep in mind that you use both frequencies. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 04:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Recruitment]] ==<br />
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{{RecruitWarning|an old timestamp}}<br />
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--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:21, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Readded, thanks. [[User:Jim_Extreme|Jim Extreme]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jim_Extreme|Talk]] | [[DHPD|DHPD]]</sup> 00:50, 28 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Cleaning up a mess of redirects! ==<br />
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I fixed up around 25 double redirects related to your group and two ([[Cotty Street PD]] and [[Broadbelt Grove PD]]) that should've redirected to actual location pages, not a group subpage. On that note, the location pages are pretty scarce in actual information (besides a short splash of text and a link to a subpage of this group) so I'm going to give those a once-over. Just wanted to let you know. And uh, maybe do less of the double-redirecting? Pleeease? --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 13:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:DHPD/Bravo_Squad&diff=1348095Talk:DHPD/Bravo Squad2008-12-28T13:20:48Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:DHPD/Policies_and_Procedures&diff=1348094Talk:DHPD/Policies and Procedures2008-12-28T13:20:40Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:DHPD/Cotty_Street_Precinct&diff=1348093Talk:DHPD/Cotty Street Precinct2008-12-28T13:20:32Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:DHPD/Broadbelt_Grove_Precinct&diff=1348092Talk:DHPD/Broadbelt Grove Precinct2008-12-28T13:20:23Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:DHPD/Dixie_Squad&diff=1348091Talk:DHPD/Dixie Squad2008-12-28T13:20:15Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:DHPD/Charlie_Squad&diff=1348090Talk:DHPD/Charlie Squad2008-12-28T13:20:04Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:DHPD/Department_of_Field_Operations&diff=1348086Talk:DHPD/Department of Field Operations2008-12-28T13:17:18Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:DHPD/Department_of_Internal_Affairs&diff=1348085Talk:DHPD/Department of Internal Affairs2008-12-28T13:17:11Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:DHPD/HR_and_Recruitment_Office&diff=1348084Talk:DHPD/HR and Recruitment Office2008-12-28T13:17:03Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:DHPD/Department_of_The_Commissioner&diff=1348083Talk:DHPD/Department of The Commissioner2008-12-28T13:16:52Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:Dunell Hills Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Dixie_Squad&diff=1348081DHPD Dixie Squad2008-12-28T13:14:27Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Dixie Squad]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Charlie_Squad&diff=1348080DHPD Charlie Squad2008-12-28T13:14:15Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Charlie Squad]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Bravo_Squad&diff=1348079DHPD Bravo Squad2008-12-28T13:13:59Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Bravo Squad]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Alpha_Squad_Redux&diff=1348078DHPD Alpha Squad Redux2008-12-28T13:13:42Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Alpha Squad]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Most_Wanted&diff=1348077DHPD Most Wanted2008-12-28T13:13:22Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Most Wanted]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Dunell_Hills_Police_Department_Policy_and_Procedures&diff=1348076Dunell Hills Police Department Policy and Procedures2008-12-28T13:13:09Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Policies and Procedures]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Cotty_Street_Precinct&diff=1348073DHPD Cotty Street Precinct2008-12-28T13:10:59Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Cotty Street Precinct]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Broadbelt_Grove_Precinct&diff=1348071DHPD Broadbelt Grove Precinct2008-12-28T13:10:42Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Broadbelt Grove Precinct]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Department_of_Internal_Affairs&diff=1348069DHPD Department of Internal Affairs2008-12-28T13:10:26Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Department of Internal Affairs]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_HR_and_Recruitment_Office&diff=1348067DHPD HR and Recruitment Office2008-12-28T13:09:25Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/HR and Recruitment Office]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Department_of_Field_Operations&diff=1348066DHPD Department of Field Operations2008-12-28T13:08:50Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixed double redirect.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Department of Field Operations]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Department_of_The_Commissioner&diff=1348065DHPD Department of The Commissioner2008-12-28T13:08:28Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Department of The Commissioner]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Broadbelt_Grove_PD&diff=1348061Broadbelt Grove PD2008-12-28T13:05:47Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Should redirect to the location page, not a group subpage.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Broadbelt Grove Police Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Cotty_Street_PD&diff=1348060Cotty Street PD2008-12-28T13:05:17Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Should redirect to the location page, not a group subpage.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Cotty_Street_Police_Department]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=DHPD_Broadbelt_Grove_Police_Department&diff=1348057DHPD Broadbelt Grove Police Department2008-12-28T13:04:15Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Dunell Hills Police Department/Broadbelt Grove Precinct]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Dunell_Hills_Most_Wanted&diff=1348055Dunell Hills Most Wanted2008-12-28T13:02:47Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Fixing a slew of double redirects.</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT[[Dunell Hills Police Department/Most Wanted]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:AClashInRedSnow&diff=1346478User talk:AClashInRedSnow2008-12-26T10:10:27Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: /* wykewood wiki */</p>
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<div>== Just wanted to say.. ==<br />
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..awesome and classy [[User:AClashInRedSnow/CrimethInc._Anti-Zombification_Brigade|group page]]! --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 13:24, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks! I've actually moved it to [[CrimethInc._Resurrectionist_Insurrectionist_Malcontents_Enclave|an actual page]] in the main namespace now since it's suitable for public viewing. --[[User:AClashInRedSnow|aClashInRedSnow]] 17:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Your edit ==<br />
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I'm curious about your edit on [[UDWiki:Location_Style_Guide]]. Where did you get that information from? More importantly why would anyone think that individual street pages are better than lumping them all together on a "generic" streets of this suburb page?<br />
Is someone going to go around now and make all of these pages? I recently completed all of the location blocks needed in Malton and I have to say that unless there is some very significant history or news written about a location it doesn't really need its' own page. Most of the pages were just blank.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 21:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I'm actually rather confused too. I was taking the info from [[UDWiki_talk:Location_Style_Guide#Voting|here]] which seems to conclude that a policy of "every location gets its own page" was decided upon. However that was a while ago and there was no really specific update to the LSG itself on that topic. I asked on the talk page there what the real rule is and am awaiting reply. --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 21:16, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry to go in the middle, I'm the one making them individual pages as [[User:J3D|Someone]] told me that merged pages are not encouraged.--[[User:Lithedarkangel|Lithedarkangel]] 21:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah, I was reading your talk page (working backwards here). So, I guess the only question is WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL I DID ALL THOSE DARN MINDNUMBINGLY DULL LOCATION BLOCKS?!?! hahaha You could have done it before then.... But at least they are done and hopefully won't ever have to be redone. :) --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 21:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Sorry, I have finally too much spare time And on second note, the blocks had errors... still have XD.--[[User:Lithedarkangel|Lithedarkangel]] 21:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::Which blocks? And I am not surprised. They all blend together.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 21:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Hollomstown ones... some streets names were spelled wrong. I had to check the map many times.--[[User:Lithedarkangel|Lithedarkangel]] 21:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I don't think I did (m)any of those. I did most of the Brooke Hills. And if it is the headline on the page you are referring to it wasn't me at all. I copied and pasted everything from the map. (which sucked because I had to go in and edit it to work with the wiki name formats)--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 21:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== re: Blanking recruitment ads. ==<br />
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Honestly, if I did I'm very sorry....it was not my intention nor how I like to treat another player. My apologies. I still don't understand how I did that though. I wasn't monkeying around in the C section of the teams at all. But believe me when I say that there was no malice intended in the action. --[[User:Sir WV|Sir WV]] 07:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== wykewood wiki ==<br />
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Noticed you wanted to fix it up. Cool. I've taken the liberty of working on it myself, making things conform more closely with standard suburb wiki organisation. As for the "Wykewood Groups" section... Some burbs have those sections, some don't... But they need maintenance or they can get out of date. Personally, I'd leave it... but make sure it's up to date, accurate and inclusive. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 09:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, cool. Yeah, I was trying to format it something more like the other suburbs. I'll be sticking around that area in-game for a bit so I'll try to have a look around and see what's what. --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 10:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC)</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Wykewood&diff=1346424Wykewood2008-12-26T07:52:38Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: Some updates to keep things current. Questioning the use of the "Wykewood Groups" section. May remove it along with all that outdated and misplaced barricade info.</p>
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<div>{{Suburb | <br />
snX= 2 | <br />
snY= 8 |<br />
suburb_number = 72 |<br />
Suburb_MiniMap = |<br />
mast_coordinates = [[the Skilliter Motel]] [14, 75] |<br />
NW_suburb = Crooketon |<br />
N_suburb = Mornington |<br />
NE_suburb = North Blythville |<br />
W_suburb = Nixbank |<br />
E_suburb = South Blythville |<br />
SW_suburb = Foulkes Village |<br />
S_suburb = Ruddlebank |<br />
SE_suburb = Lockettside |<br />
suburb_groups = <br />
{{Wykewoodgroups}}<br />
|<br />
Police = 2 |<br />
Fire = 2 |<br />
Hospitals = 2 |<br />
NTs = none |<br />
Malls = none |<br />
Other = Schools 5, Churches 3, Auto Repair 1, Railway Stations 2|<br />
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}}<br />
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{{NPOV}}<br />
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'''Wykewood''' is a [[suburb]] of [[Malton]], located in the south-west of the city.<br />
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==Resource Buildings==<br />
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{{trps|<br />
FSs=<br />
*[[Castleman Walk Fire Station]] [14,72]<br />
*[[Catcott Row Fire Station]] [17,79]<br />
|Hs=<br />
*[[Josephine General Hospital (Wykewood)|Josephine General Hospital]] [11,76]<br />
*[[Adalbert General Hospital (Wykewood)|Adalbert General Hospital]] [12, 76]<br />
|Malls=<br />
*None<br />
*Nearest mall is [[Tompson Mall]] in [[Lockettside]]<br />
|NTs=<br />
*None<br />
|PDs=<br />
*[[Lavington Crescent Police Department|Lavington Crescent Police Dept]] [10, 79]<br />
*[[Samborne Walk Police Department|Samborne Walk Police Dept]] [15, 79]<br />
|RPs=<br />
*[[Cemetery 17,75|a cemetery]] [17, 75] active<br />
|Boards=<br />
*[[Holt Walk#Holt Walk|Holt Walk]] [18,75]<br />
*[[Ogbourn Way#Ogbourn Way|Ogbourn Way]] [18,78]<br />
}}<br />
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==Recent News==<br />
{{BurbNewsIntro}}<br />
===December 2008===<br />
====December 26<sup>th</sup>====<br />
Zombie presence seems minimal, although they may just be on the north side of this 'burb. Lots of buildings appear to be unpowered but not in bad shape overall. Maybe safe, maybe not; proceed with caution. --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 06:06, 26 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Wykewood Groups==<br />
'''This section is to contain a small bit of info on active groups in the suburb. If a group goes inactive or is forced out they will be removed from this section and the known groups in this suburb list.'''<br />
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''' The Department of Emergency Management '''<br />
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: Officers of the [[Malton Fire Department]], [[Malton Police Department]], and [[Malton Forensics Unit]] assigned to [[Department of Emergency Management|DEM]] district SW-1 ([[North Blythville]], Wykewood, [[South Blythville]], [[Greentown]] and [[Lockettside]]) patrol this suburb frequently and assist with resolving emergencies.<br />
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'''McZeds'''<br />
[[Chilcott Auto Repair (Wykewood)|McZeds at Chilcott Auto Repair]]. Open all night to serve the hungry tummies of Wykewood and all South West Malton. Conveniently located along a major free-running artery.<br />
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'''CrimethInc.'''<br />
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:The [[CrimethInc. Resurrectionist Insurrectionist Malcontents Enclave]] is based here and offers its aid in fortifying/powering buildings, informing survivors, healing the wounded, and, most of all, defending against zombies.<br />
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== Revive Points ==<br />
Wykewood's sole [[Revivification Point|revive point]] is [[cemetery 17,75|a cemetery]] [17,75].<br />
Revivification Requests may be placed using the [http://ud-malton.info/revive_requests.cgi Revive Tool] (provided by [[DEM]]).<br />
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There is also a cemetery at [17,72]. This one is not an active revive point run by any organized group, although revives may occasionally be had there due to general usage of the [[Sacred Ground Policy]].<br />
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==Barricade Plan==<br />
The [[Wykewood Barricade Plan]] conforms to the [[Uniform Barricading Policy]].<br />
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...as of 27/12/07, Wykewood is not adhering to the [[Uniform Barricading Policy]]: The Samborne Walk Police Department is barricaded to EHB and cannot be entered by survivors. --[[User:Hungrygrok|Hungrygrok]] 17:27, 27 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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...likewise the Lavington Crescent Police Department. --[[User:Hungrygrok|Hungrygrok]] 17:33, 27 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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Lavington Crescent is back to VS, should stay that way, if no more zeds pop up. --[[User:Exp. 99|Exp. 99]] 17:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Suburb Map==<br />
{{EXP_Suburbblock|suburb=Wykewood|<br />
NW_Suburb=[[Crooketon#Suburb_Map|NW]]|<br />
N_Suburb=[[Mornington#Suburb_Map|N]]|<br />
NE_Suburb=[[North_Blythville#Suburb_Map|NE]]|<br />
W_Suburb=[[Nixbank#Suburb_Map|W]]|<br />
E_Suburb=[[South_Blythville#Suburb_Map|E]]|<br />
SW_Suburb=[[Foulkes_Village#Suburb_Map|SW]]|<br />
S_Suburb=[[Ruddlebank#Suburb_Map|S]]|<br />
SE_Suburb=[[Lockettside#Suburb_Map|SE]]|<br />
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location1=[[Bristol Way]]|location1_color=Street|<br />
location2=[[Moon Bank]]|location2_color=Bank|<br />
location3=[[Rudman Boulevard]]|location3_color=Street|<br />
location4=[[Massey Drive Railway Station]]|location4_color=Railway Station|<br />
location5=[[Frederick Cinema]]|location5_color=Cinema|<br />
location6=[[Carpark 15,70|a carpark]]|location6_color=Carpark|<br />
location7=[[Gilling Lane]]|location7_color=Street|<br />
location8=[[Warehouse 17,70|a warehouse]]|location8_color=Warehouse|<br />
location9=[[Carpark 18,70|a carpark]]|location9_color=Carpark|<br />
location10=[[Retter Crescent]]|location10_color=Street|<br />
location11=[[Norvell Library]]|location11_color=Library|<br />
location12=[[Line Library]]|location12_color=Library|<br />
location13=[[Casson Bank]]|location13_color=Bank|<br />
location14=[[Factory 13,71|a factory]]|location14_color=Factory|<br />
location15=[[the Smithfield Arms]]|location15_color=Arms|<br />
location16=[[Maul Walk]]|location16_color=Street|<br />
location17=[[the Ross Building]]|location17_color=Building|<br />
location18=[[Adler Boulevard]]|location18_color=Street|<br />
location19=[[Martland Library]]|location19_color=Library|<br />
location20=[[the Quaney Hotel]]|location20_color=Hotel|<br />
location21=[[Hillburn Road]]|location21_color=Street|<br />
location22=[[Kelloway Grove (Wykewood)|Kelloway Grove]]|location22_color=Street|<br />
location23=[[Carpark 12,72|a carpark]]|location23_color=Carpark|<br />
location24=[[the Boston Monument]]|location24_color=Monument|<br />
location25=[[Castleman Walk Fire Station]]|location25_color=Fire Station|<br />
location26=[[Halberry Lane]]|location26_color=Street|<br />
location27=[[St. Fabian's Church]]|location27_color=Church|<br />
location28=[[Cemetery 17,72|a cemetery]]|location28_color=Cemetery|<br />
location29=[[Carpark 18,72|a carpark]]|location29_color=Carpark|<br />
location30=[[Pegg Plaza]]|location30_color=Street|<br />
location31=[[the Fearnsides Arms]]|location31_color=Arms|<br />
location32=[[Pretor Cinema]]|location32_color=Cinema|<br />
location33=[[the Godfry Building]]|location33_color=Building|<br />
location34=[[Banger Cinema]]|location34_color=Cinema|<br />
location35=[[Semple Plaza]]|location35_color=Street|<br />
location36=[[Haile Street (Wykewood)|Haile Street]]|location36_color=Street|<br />
location37=[[Spraggon Drive Railway Station]]|location37_color=Railway Station|<br />
location38=[[Warehouse 17,73|a warehouse]]|location38_color=Warehouse|<br />
location39=[[Trott Alley School]]|location39_color=School|<br />
location40=[[the Snaydon Building]]|location40_color=Building|<br />
location41=[[the Poynter Hotel]]|location41_color=Hotel|<br />
location42=[[Samuel Park]]|location42_color=Park|<br />
location43=[[Carpark 12,74|a carpark]]|location43_color=Carpark|<br />
location44=[[Salter Place]]|location44_color=Street|<br />
location45=[[Toller Lane (Wykewood)|Toller Lane]]|location45_color=Street|<br />
location46=[[Rusher Boulevard]]|location46_color=Street|<br />
location47=[[Bunstone Way]]|location47_color=Street|<br />
location48=[[the Curtis Arms]]|location48_color=Arms|<br />
location49=[[Colmer Street]]|location49_color=Street|<br />
location50=[[Mallack Walk (Wykewood)|Mallack Walk]]|location50_color=Street|<br />
location51=[[Dix Row (Wykewood)|Dix Row]]|location51_color=Street|<br />
location52=[[the Paris Motel]]|location52_color=Hotel|<br />
location53=[[Mather Library]]|location53_color=Library|<br />
location54=[[the Dufferin Building]]|location54_color=Building|<br />
location55=[[the Skilliter Motel]]|location55_color=Hotel|<br />
location56=[[Garde Drive School]]|location56_color=School|<br />
location57=[[St. Egbert's Church (Wykewood)|St. Egbert's Church]]|location57_color=Church|<br />
location58=[[Cemetery 17,75|a cemetery <br> RP]]|location58_color=Cemetery|<br />
location59=[[Holt Walk]]|location59_color=Street|<br />
location60=[[Blight Street]]|location60_color=Street|<br />
location61=[[Crabbe Bank]]|location61_color=Bank|<br />
location62=[[Josephine General Hospital (Wykewood)|Josephine General Hospital]]|location62_color=Hospital|<br />
location63=[[Adalbert General Hospital (Wykewood)|Adalbert General Hospital]]|location63_color=Hospital|<br />
location64=[[Ellacott Plaza]]|location64_color=Street|<br />
location65=[[Smith Boulevard]]|location65_color=Street|<br />
location66=[[Wilton Drive (Wykewood)|Wilton Drive]]|location66_color=Street|<br />
location67=[[the Dement Museum]]|location67_color=Museum|<br />
location68=[[the Maguire Building]]|location68_color=Building|<br />
location69=[[Skuse Crescent]]|location69_color=Street|<br />
location70=[[Oldroyd Avenue School]]|location70_color=School|<br />
location71=[[Braund Park]]|location71_color=Park|<br />
location72=[[Merryweather Park]]|location72_color=Park|<br />
location73=[[the McDonald Motel]]|location73_color=Hotel|<br />
location74=[[Willson Place]]|location74_color=Street|<br />
location75=[[Ware Walk (Wykewood)|Ware Walk]]|location75_color=Street|<br />
location76=[[Carpark 15,77|a carpark]]|location76_color=Carpark|<br />
location77=[[Townshend Crescent]]|location77_color=Street|<br />
location78=[[Hogue Street (Wykewood)|Hogue Street]]|location78_color=Street|<br />
location79=[[St. Julie's Church (Wykewood)|St. Julie's Church]]|location79_color=Church|<br />
location80=[[Lawes Way]]|location80_color=Street|<br />
location81=[[Lawford Lane]]|location81_color=Street|<br />
location82=[[Chilcott Auto Repair (Wykewood)|Chilcott Auto Repair]]|location82_color=Auto Repair|<br />
location83=[[Haggard Alley]]|location83_color=Street|<br />
location84=[[Amatt Cinema]]|location84_color=Cinema|<br />
location85=[[Mudford Walk]]|location85_color=Street|<br />
location86=[[Barwood Row School]]|location86_color=School|<br />
location87=[[Strong Alley School]]|location87_color=School|<br />
location88=[[Wasteland 17,78|wasteland]]|location88_color=Wasteland|<br />
location89=[[Ogbourn Way]]|location89_color=Street|<br />
location90=[[McNamara Cinema]]|location90_color=Cinema|<br />
location91=[[Lavington Crescent Police Department]]|location91_color=Police Dept|<br />
location92=[[the Fursman Building]]|location92_color=Building|<br />
location93=[[Chaning Drive]]|location93_color=Street|<br />
location94=[[Westway Park]]|location94_color=Park|<br />
location95=[[Junkyard 14,79|a junkyard]]|location95_color=Junkyard|<br />
location96=[[Samborne Walk Police Department]]|location96_color=Police Dept|<br />
location97=[[Fir Street (Wykewood)|Fir Street]]|location97_color=Street|<br />
location98=[[Catcott Row Fire Station]]|location98_color=Fire Station|<br />
location99=[[Cull Walk]]|location99_color=Street|<br />
location100=[[Defrates Walk]]|location100_color=Street}}<br />
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[[Category:NPOV]]</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Sir_WV&diff=1346411User talk:Sir WV2008-12-26T07:37:15Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: /* Blanking recruitment ads. */</p>
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==Bounty Hunters==<br />
I know you probably have no clue who we are (we're a bit obscure at the moment) but I'm with [[The Streltsy]] and we are working on a list of bounty hunters in Malton. [[USER:DT|DT]] said that you had a massive list of them and we (The Streltsy, that is) were hoping that you would permit us to have take a look at your list so that we could add the player profiles on your list to ours. --[[User:PiggyInTheMiddle|PiggyInTheMiddle]] 04:56, 1 June 2008 (BST)<br />
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==MCM==<br />
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Sir Knight, you have my sincerest apologies. I have demanded an apology from his group leader - who was present in the building at the time you were assaulted, and who agreed to our no-kill zone - and I will personally revive you if you will simply stand either outside our doors or at Nicols Avenue, our revive point one step away. If you post a note either here or on the Dean's Office page (my talk page) you'll be revived immediately. <br />
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Honestly, I'm furious. --{{User:Violet B/sig}} 04:11, 30 May 2008 (BST)<br />
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==Poor Manners==<br />
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<s>Can you go and fuck yourself? The DEM are a worthy group that did nothing but good for Malton. Unlike you, bastard. What can you say? </s> <br />
:(response to Shusamchen) You obviously lack the ability to recognize sarcasm when you see it. I dare say that most of the posters for that discussion are doing it tongue-in-cheek. Don't be so quick to get your feelings hurt over something, you'll have more fun with this. But in the future, if you must come to my talk page & spout filth......please be courageous enough to sign your post. Thank you. --Sir WV 16:56, 28 May 2008 (BST) <br />
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Retrieved from "http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:Shusamchen"<br />
::[[Corrected]] The DEM strive for good recognition and protection. However, it rather mystifies us that many people hate the DEM. --[[User:Shusamchen|Shusamchen]] 10:13, 29 May 2008 (BST)<br />
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==Vidi Well Brother==<br />
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No worries it really was poor judgement for me to sleep in that gate house. Hope the operation was still carried out.--[[User:The'Joker|The&#39;Joker]] <sup><small>[[The Watchmen]]|[[RHA]]|[[RRF]]|[[AB]]</small></sup> 22:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Hey WV, here is a profile for KZN02, http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=6028. {{User:Flogging Molly/Sig}} 03:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I never said thanks for this F....but thanks! --[[User:A whale's vagina|A whale&#39;s vagina]] 21:12, 8 May 2007 (BST)<br />
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== You need a kill counter ==<br />
Add your totals WV. I'm curious about how many you have now but I know you have several multiple executions thus counting the victims alone does me no good. --[[User:SO|SO]] 20:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Hello ==<br />
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Hello there, just got your message. You people sure are hard to contact! Masque killed me earlier today (as you probably know) and i got revived. I made my way over to the cemetery by isidores and both of you were standing there. I guess i was lucky in that sense. As i was typing i was getting attacked by a zed so i really couldnt talk for that long. Anyways the whole story behind me killing Masque is that he was in the same corner as me and i saw he killed a guy. Since i roll with the C4NT, im not a bounty hunter, but if i notice a pker i either attack him or report him to the crowd. Then, when you attacked me, i logged on during your first or second attack, checked your profile and thought it was a deul. I will say that it was a rousing time, i thought it was pretty cool to be attacking somebody who was attacking me. <br />
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Now onto serious business. I dont have a problem with you pking me - provided that i am not being targeted by every member of your group every moment my character is visible in game. Or if you somehow find me in some down and out suburb thats been deserted. I was actually reading through your group's wiki and thought "Oh i hope to God i wasnt being pked because of my name". But since Masque commented me telling me the whole situation i think i get it. I do appreciate the gesture of laying off of me for a while, because im a little light on ammo as of this moment. And because of this gesture i will refrain from attacking and Philospohe Knight members untill this deul has begun. If you have any specific rules, post them in my discussion area. I believe i know how a deul works, but i think that even the pkers in UD have rules about this sort of thing. I'd also like to give you an interview on pking for the C4NT. Id like to get a pkers (hope you dont think that its a derogatory term) thoughts on the subject of pking. I hope to hear back from you.<br />
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Stay Classy,<br />
[[User:TheHippestCat|TheHippestCat]]<br />
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P.S.: I thought it was kind of ironic that your name is "A whales vagina" and that same phrase was used in the Anchorman movie by the beloved Ron Burgundy, when referring to the definition of San Diego.<br />
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==Lovely Username==<br />
Yeah. Real nice. And hey, [[User:TheHippestCat|TheHippestCat]], I think that's the point. Not that ironic afterall. --{{User:Dux Ducis/sig}} 07:12, 22 May 2007 (BST)<br />
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==Hey==<br />
Thanks for the welcome. I'm still trying to get the hang on things, but I'm getting there ;)--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 03:53, 12 July 2007 (BST)<br />
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== RE: That didn't go as planned ==<br />
Heh, thanks for the message and the compliment... And indeed, I always appreciate a witty punch line before I get PKd. Better luck next time… *grin* BTW, I forgot to save a screenshot, so I’m afraid your kill won’t be written down in the Rogue’s gallery… --[[User:John Cannonfodder|John Cannonfodder]] 10:15, 13 July 2007 (BST)<br />
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== RE: Enemy List ==<br />
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Yes, I now harbor no grudge against the PK. It appears the leaders of our respective groups (and Clan Nosferatu's) have a treaty. I now welcome all members of the PK as my allies. --[[User:Wildcard5|Wildcard5]] 10:49, 28 July 2007 (BST)<br />
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== Holy Shit A Philosophe Knight ==<br />
So I had just killed a zed and was making my way over to another zombie, who was mauling some level one survivor, when another zed popped in and grabbed a hold of me. I only had about 8 ap left and decided screw it I'll take off. So I got to a safe house and decided to hit the back button a few times to see who the zed was. Then I saw your profile pop up. So, I felt kinda bad for bitchin out of a fight and want to know if there is any way to make up for bailin. You guys are really well reknown and for being a newbie I'd be honored to slug it out with you sometime.--[[User:Denver Randleman|Denver Randleman]] 22:57, 20 October 2007 (BST)<br />
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:Thank-you, any time you are in the Greentown/Lockettside area contact me and we'll get this set up, have a safe trip.--[[User:Denver Randleman|Denver Randleman]] 22:16, 22 October 2007 (BST)<br />
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==Ad compliance==<br />
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Right, the ad looks reasonably good. The image is a bit too high, so you should do something about that. The text is a bit more than standard but that will be ok. Now just post that onto [[Lebende_Tote/recruit]], and post the template code that is given on the recruitment page with the alterations:<br />
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<nowiki>{|</nowiki><br />
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If you have any more questions or if I was unclear just let me know. - [[User:Whitehouse|Whitehouse]] 17:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:Ads must have their timestamp updated every two weeks. I'm supposed to check every day and remove ads that are past two weeks, though due to real life issues I am sometimes a bit behind when it comes to erasing expired ads. - [[User:Whitehouse|Whitehouse]] 22:09, 2 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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::Since you are using '''<nowiki><div></nowiki>''' to colour your ad, you need to also place a cancel tag to stop it including the whole page. Just put '''<nowiki></div></nowiki>''' to stop the colouring proceeding any further than the end of your ad. And I am not bothered by being asked questions, so if you have more just ask. - [[User:Whitehouse|Whitehouse]] 03:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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===Word count===<br />
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Rules state that no more than 200 words should be displayed in your ad section (don't ask me why this amount, it was so before I took over as editor). That does of course not include the mandatory header, and also doesn't include small flagboxes like the one the FU has about vultures. I'm looking at allowing more words though (as long as people would keep their ads from spanning more than 600x600PX, or something like that). - [[User:Whitehouse|Whitehouse]] <sup>[[User_talk:Whitehouse|T]]</sup> 21:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Wow ==<br />
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How did your username not get blocked as soon as you made it? Well done.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 09:38, 2 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Moderation ==<br />
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hai there. do not blank other users talk pages. This can be considered vandalism. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 17:17, 13 April 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Rot from the Moors ==<br />
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As far as I know they are not. I will check though. -{{User:Vigeous/Sig}} 03:06, 14 May 2008 (BST)<br />
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== [[GIFD]] ==<br />
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Bonjour, tu parles francais?--'''[[User:Zyll|Zyll]]''' <sup>[[GIFD|<span style="color: blue; background-color:{{{3|transparent}}}">GIFD</span>]]</sup> [[Image:800px-Flag of France.svg.png|20px|Francais]] 18:52, 22 July 2008 (BST)<br />
:Thank you!! your french is good. I saw you in the game, you killed two men... Now, I'll track you until you die!!! HAHAHA.. No, I'm joking :) <br />
I hope you have fun. bye ;)--'''[[User:Zyll|Zyll]]''' <sup>[[GIFD|<span style="color: blue; background-color:{{{3|transparent}}}">GIFD</span>]]</sup> [[Image:800px-Flag of France.svg.png|20px|Francais]] 20:42, 22 July 2008 (BST)<br />
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== User pages ==<br />
I moved two of your user pages from the main namespace to user subpages, [[Sir WV/WC]] & [[Sir WV/policies]]. If possibly please update the links so the redirects can be deleted.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:13, 23 July 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
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Where are you in Malton city?<br />
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Do you love me?<br />
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Are you a zerg that kill others zergs?<br />
: You know what, I really don't mind so much the little debate your trying to do here but for God's Sake....learn how to properly post on my talk page. Also sign your posts Blasto. And to answer your question, nope...I don't zerg at all. My characters are widely separated from one another. But if I've killed you, it sounds like you just admitted to being a zerger. Nice. --[[User:Sir WV|Sir WV]] 21:57, 15 August 2008 (BST)<br />
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== T'MET ARGS ==<br />
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Because you believe God, my history is very boring, but, I'm really a zerg, but i know that you kills zergs and because i'm so boring. Do you know all? You kill me when I'm not a zerg. You believe that fuck the others players is not a crimen. Well, you fail. I like hunting you.<br />
:sweet, good luck with your hunt. Do me a favor though, can you create a zerg account that mocks me in some way. I hear those are all the rage. --[[User:Sir WV|Sir WV]] 22:10, 15 August 2008 (BST)<br />
::How cute, looks like you took my mocking of you to heart & created a little [http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1339978 Mini-Me] duplicate of myself. I'm flattered. So whatcha gonna do with him? --[[User:Sir WV|Sir WV]] 22:22, 26 August 2008 (BST)<br />
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== ](0,=,0)[ ==<br />
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''I dream with you. All peolpe of world see me and see you. A rain of death touch me heart.''<br />
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Song of time.<br />
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You understand what I want to say? NO. But I explain you. 3 weeks and I got you. Why? How? Where?<br />
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Honor? HAHAHA you? HAHAHA<br />
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But is my last messange. I dream, I wait. The wiki never more.<br />
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Goodbye, my little friend.<br />
:alright cool, more stupidity from our zerger friend Blasto. Ok, good luck finding me buddy. See you in game soon schmuck. --[[User:Sir WV|Sir WV]] 02:57, 16 August 2008 (BST)<br />
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== Imposter? ==<br />
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Do you know [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1339978 this man]?--[[User:William Told|William Told]] 20:53, 23 September 2008 (BST)<br />
: [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:William_Told#Re:Imposter.3F Answered on Mr. Told's talk page.]<br />
::At this very moment he's in St Irenaeus's Church by the SE corner of Tompson Mall. I saw him with my alt and nearly said hello to him before I remembered that your username wasn't actually Sir WV. I may have to take up your offer to kill him. --[[User:William Told|William Told]] 02:56, 24 September 2008 (BST)<br />
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== RE: Opinion ==<br />
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Image size is a little too big but far from being too wide, which is my main concern regarding images. About the text, I do not remove ads unless they go over by quite a bit (yours is safe). What you have to change is the header. Can't have headers as part of your ad. My suggestion is to remove the header and replace it with this: <br />
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<nowiki>[[Rot From The Moors|<span style="color: Maroon; font-size:200%;">Rot From The Moors</span>]]</nowiki><br />
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The text size will be about the same as that of a level one header, the text will be correctly coloured this time making it more visible than it previously was, and the underline will be provided by the hyphens. Another thing that does not matter but I'd like to just ask is about the method of spacing between the imagebox and the textbox. Why did you use extra table cells for that and not use cellspacing and padding? Anyhow, change the header and you are all clear. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 13:35, 28 September 2008 (BST)<br />
==New Recruitment page==<br />
Try this new recruitment page [[Suburb Recruitment]].--[[User:Gamerman191|Gamerman191]] 01:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Blanking recruitment ads. ==<br />
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<strike>My friend, while I certainly theoretically respect your attempts to instill knowledge where there was once ignorance, I fail to see how removing recruitment ads in full compliance with the page's rules and not leaving so much as an edit summary does anything but remove information from existence.<br />
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Not to mention it's a bit rude.</strike> --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 06:32, 26 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Oh hell, y'know what? Now that I look at it, it seems that you REVERTED the page to some earlier edit; the timestamps all got turned back several days and some ads disappeared, my own included. Sorry, that was obviously unintentional, shouldn't have jumped to conclusions. --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 07:37, 26 December 2008 (UTC)</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki_talk:Location_Style_Guide&diff=1346401UDWiki talk:Location Style Guide2008-12-26T07:32:05Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: /* Standardizing "Current Status"? */</p>
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<div>==Template Discussion==<br />
Post suggestions for changes or additions to the current template. DO NOT edit the existing template as only Wiki moderators are allowed to promote such changes. Any approved changes to the template will be verified herein...<br><br><br />
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==={{tl|LocationblockIW}}===<br />
This is a minor update to the Locationblock template that puts a link the very bottom of the location block. The link leads to a page that shows all relvant [[Iwitness]] records for that location and neighboring locations that can see that location on the [[minimap]] and hence would know if it was powered, had zombies outside, and so on. I don't have a version yet for multi-block locations, but I think one could likely be done.<br>I'll leave it up to others to decide if this should be the new official location block template. <sub>[[NT Status Map|.]]</sub> <sup>[[:Category:Imagine|.]]</sup> <sub>[[User:Swiers|. swiers]]</sub> [[Image:BigEYEwitnessLOGO.png|60px]] 19:47, 28 July 2007 (BST)<br />
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===Location Image Size===<br />
A recent "discussion" (...dispute) led to a startling revelation, apparently FireFox and IE handle images differently in terms of how a template border impacts them. For IE the image width that exceeds/overlaps the border of the map template is hidden behind the template, while for FireFox it shunts the entire image below the template (similar to the "Right" alignment property of wiki images). While this problem only exists for desktops using a resolution of 800x600, I feel it should be addressed.<br />
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Currently the images I create are 450x290, with a few 270x360 images specifically for "Towers", but I have been moving away from them to stay consistent. As there does not appear to currently be a standard size for images I would like to discuss the matter, since one of my current solution for the aforementioned problem would be to recreate the images possibly as 275x360 (tested maximum width for 800x600, height is somewhat arbitrary). The other option is to just shrink the images, but in that regards a lot of the details would be lost, especially those location which I have included the actual name of the location. --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius187]] April 5 2007, 11:35 AM<br />
:As long as the width is small enough to avoid the problem I don't think that we need to worry about the height. Leave it up to individual aesthetics -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[User:Boxy/Locations|L]] [[Zombie Squad|ZS]] [[Location Nuts|Nuts2U]] [[Dead Animals/Redux|DA]]</sup> 17:02, 5 April 2007 (BST)<br />
::True, in the case of height my suggestion is entirely arbitrary and it was originally suggested based on the first "tall" location image I created a long while back. Even so, I think we might want to at least suggest an image height standard, if only to provide users with an idea of what other users might be using. "Other users" currently referring to me, but new users could in turn choose to follow this size standard with the eventual resolution being that all location images would share the same consistent scale (whatever that would be). Of course if someone wants to suggest something other than 360px for the height they are free to do so or simply choose whichever height they want as following these dimensions are completely voluntary. The only actual fact here is that should the image width exceed 275px then users using 800x600 resolutions will have formatting problems, especially on FireFox. For that matter I'm tempted to suggest 270x360, if only because that's the current width I used for about a dozen Tower location images in the NE Corner. --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius187]] April 5 2007, 12:39 PM<br />
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==="The" Buildings===<br />
If you include the article "The" in the title when you list the categories, you get almost a third of your location listings under the letter "T". [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]]</sup><br />
*Not true. Index the categories with the name first , e.g. <nowiki>[[Category:Locations|Urban Dead wiki, the]]</nowiki>, and the categories will list it under "U" instead of "T". --[[User:Novelty|Nov]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]], [[User_talk:Novelty|Talk]]</sup> 04:40, 9 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
**I don't believe it makes any sense to create links for buildings and such without the "The". As stated in this very style guide ''"Buildings beginning with "The" is to include the article as part of the name for the page."'' The logical result of a policy of creating pages without the "the"s is thousands of pointless redirects that add nothing to wiki. There are all kinds of rules to follow, and considering in-game names as canon should be a simple one. Another problem with "the"less redirects is that cut-and-pasters create incorrectly-named pages and then link to them. When someone creates an appropriately-named page, work is spent recreating the initial page and then the data must be merged. The simple solution is to not plant those seeds in the first place and just have everyone do everything right the first time. I think some of the other redirects should be reconsidered for the same reasons, but one thing at a time. At the very least, redirects that have been created but are not in use should be eliminated. --[[User:Tekka Maki|Tekka Maki]] 05:38, 17 August 2007 (BST)<br />
:The The-less redirects have other uses. The reason I like them is that they make the search box mildly useful because when people search for a building name with out the "the" it sends them to the right page without giving them the "this page does not exist do you wish to create it" message and hopeful prevents duplicate location pages from being made.- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 06:52, 17 August 2007 (BST)<br />
::When you search for a "the"less building, the first item that pops up is the proper link, encouraging searchers to do the right thing from the start. If they can't figure out definite articles, they probably won't be editing the wiki. Additionally, since there's no effort to comprehensively make all these pointless links, the results will be hit-and-miss. I would argue that consistency is better than the occasional tip for the extremely unobservant and/or lazy. The "the"s are defaults for all suburb maps and templates, and encouraging people to create "the"less pages will result in "invisible" wiki entries. In any event, I believe that searching for a specific building is extremely rare behavior, and certainly is far outstripped by attempts to link to building pages via the maps. --[[User:Tekka Maki|Tekka Maki]] 08:51, 17 August 2007 (BST)<br />
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===Firefox Plugin Compatibility Issue===<br />
Although I dont use it, there is a Firefox UD plugin that alows you to click on the map, which then directs you to the UD Wiki entry for that location.<br />
sub issue 1: If you include a period after the "St" (which is not included on the johnathan fletcher map) you get a failure. <br />
sub issue 2: Honestly I had like three other issues but its almost 4a.m. here and I have some more tests today. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]]</sup><br />
*That's why you create a page with "St" and redirect it to "St." --[[User:Novelty|Nov]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]], [[User_talk:Novelty|Talk]]</sup> 04:40, 9 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===New Categories===<br />
Originally when I started adding location pages for [[Pescodside]], and then [[Dulston]], I started slowly and made corrections to bring the pages into synch with the standards presented on the Wiki. I support the idea of a solid base design for these pages. I personally suggest the following topics/headers (most of which are already mentioned) and the order they should be presented in should be:<br />
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*'''Image''' - Location image or group-affiliated image (i.e. MALTEL).<br />
*'''Quote''' - The Urban Dead text-based description of the building. Interior if provided, exterior if not.<br />
*'''Description''' - Begins with: ('''Building name''') is a (building type link) located in the [[suburb]] of (suburb name). Historical information of the building follows.<br />
*'''Barricade Policy''' - As stated, the standard barricade level and under what conditions it would be raised.<br />
*'''Current Status''' - Date followed by the event, with the most current dated event located at the top. The timestamp would be like: '''March 10th, 2006''' - (event text). An exact time is optional. If none is provided then all further events that take place on the same day should be indented below the original with *. Posted events do not require a user signature.<br />
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These items I think are essential, as historical descriptions, while possibly containing information like current group affiliations, would probably be better recorded in the Current Events to that players can see exactly when a group claimed a building and such. I also suggest a few ''extra'' sections that would dependant entirely upon the building type, namely:<br />
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*'''NecroNet Reports''' - List NecroNet scans, ala [[The Waish Building]]. I would also recommend that should this become popular that players replace older scans, for that day, with newer ones rather than creating a new image (the images are labeled: BuildingNameYYYYMMDD for this reason).<br />
*'''Affiliates''' - List of nearby buildings that are actively working with the building in question. This would be more feasible if the building also happened to belong to a group.<br />
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On another note large buildings like Malls need special considerations. For [[Treweeke Mall]] I added in a lot of tactical information I felt would benefit survivors during a zombie siege and also entry points. Not ever building requires entry points but large buildings often do. --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius187]] 11:28 AM, Mar 10 2006 (EST)<br />
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:I added most of your suggestions to the Style Guide. (1) NecroNet Reports are only valid for NT buildings and as such doesn't really need to go into the style guide. I've merged it under '''Status'''. (2) With regards to the descriptions, I think it should be one of the few things left to the authors to decide as to how they would like to begin the description. Some variety might be interesting especially if there are 10,000 pages to be written. Obviously spelling and grammar should not be sacrificed. (3) The in-game description has been made optional as although it gives flavour to the wiki entry, I don't think many wiki users will refer to the location page for the in-game description. Also, if Kevan decides to change the in-game location description at any time (as he has done in the past), it would involve a lot of rework. (4) "Current" Status may not be factual anymore by the time the reader reads teh page. Hence I've reduced it to '''Status''' - see [[The Urban Dead Wiki:Style Guide#Time Sensitivity|wiki Style Guide]] on how to write regarding Time Sensitivity. However I do agree that groups that claim a location as a safehouse should quote that in status rather than in the description. --[[User:Novelty|Nov]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]], [[User_talk:Novelty|Talk]]</sup> 17:27, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===Grouping Locations===<br />
I've noticed a trend towards grouping similar locations... but do we really want to do this with every type of building? Recently someone took every individual fire station page I created for [[Pescodside]] and moved them all onto a single Pescodside Fire Stations page. While I admit it makes the information more easily comparable, the individual locations lose their importance. I had hoped that one day players could "move" through a suburb using the location map provided at each location page, similar to how players move throughout Urban Dead. By grouping locations it potentially throws off Wiki users. Obviously this is not a major issue if restricted to resource buildings, but still I like the individuality of certain locations... especially my current favorite [[The Waish Building]] in Pescodside. What is the official UD Wiki opinion on this... should locations be grouped, or should only resource locations be grouped... or is it all at the suburb's discretion? --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius187]] 11:43 AM, Mar 10 2006 (EST)<br />
: That is the ultimate goal. However at the moment, most of the pages are a bit "blank" and devoid of meaningful content. [[User:Odd Starter|Odd Starter]] has requested that for the time being these pages be grouped together so as not to proliferate the wiki with too many pages with little or no content (100 suburbs, with 100 blocks per suburb - the wiki does not need a few thousand "stub" pages and it would be a joke if there were more stub pages than actual content pages). When the individual locations get more content (significance, history, groups operating out of the building, crate drops, sieges, etc.) they can be separated out into their individual pages. On a side note, the it can probably be justified to separate out [[Sadley Way Fire Station]] from the aforementioned Fire Station page. Note, if you want to "walk through" the wiki using the navigation blocks, just change the redirects to include the section (e.g. instead of <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Pescodside Fire Department]]</nowiki>, change it to <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Pescodside Fire Department#Sadley Way Fire Station]]</nowiki> and that will open up the page at the Sadway Way Fire Station section). --[[User:Novelty|Nov]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]], [[User_talk:Novelty|Talk]]</sup> 16:57, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
:: While I generally agree to doing away with clearly empty pages, I do not accept this policy on grouping locations (at least for buildings, empty lots may be another story). I hardly think that the article for [[Club Meade]] fell under the vague definition of "little or no content." What are the requirements? Is there a word count? Is it a lack of history? In addition to facing disputes like this because of the current undefined policy, I feel that you are just complicating the inevitable. Eventually, most locations will grow in popularity and when new users attempt to edit these locations they run into these listings, which are arguably more imposing to wiki newbie than an individual location page. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:35, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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::Agreeing with Lint for the most part. Since [[User:Novelty|Nov]] has decided most of my work wasn't worth the time I've slowed down on my efforts. The decision to forgo individual pages and the considerable REDIRECTS required by the current layout (seem to me, anyway) as a waste of time an/or effort. Instead of having locations done by the end of this month, I'll have the '''600''' locations of the DMZ done by the end of the year. I only have so many IP hits in game so I have to do what I planned over weeks instead of days. But when I am done, each and every building in six suburbs will have an ''individual'' page set up as [[User:Novelty|Nov]] wants it, and the streets will likely have created points of significance just to fill out the pages. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]]</sup><br />
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::I agree with [[User:Lint|Lint]] for most part, but eventhough the guidelines were written by myself, the contents are mostly dictated/directed by [[User:Odd Starter|Odd Starter]] who as senior administrator of the wiki, has the right to do so. I know I'm the one that's stepping on toes to enforce the policy, and I know the "significant content" issue is vague, but those were the terms that was dictated to me and those are the terms that I have written down into the guide. There are a few pages that do have significant content - the aforementioned Sadley Way Fire Station and Club Meade - but as I was merging pages, it was quicker for me to be unbiased and to merge them irrespective of content, figuring that if anyone else decides that the pages warrant to be split out again, they could do so and leave a remnent in the merged page pointing to the page that was split out.<br />
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::[[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]], your efforts are applauded, but as I understand it, it is [[User:Odd Starter|Odd Starter]]'s wishes that each page be created with as much information as possible, instead of they way you've been doing them with stubs and xxxx'es. It is preferable to refrain from posting them unless there is ''some'' content in them, otherwise those pages are fair game for '''Speedy Delete''' Criterion 1, which I have explained to you in your talk page. Why waste your time and effort putting up pages when in the end they will get deleted and trust me, without any content, they '''will''' get deleted. I have tried to preserve your work by merging them as per this style guide so that they seem to have more content then they actually do and saving the individual pages as redirects. It is taking a lot of work. If you don't appreciate what I've done, I might as well start adding the speedy delete request to all those pages instead of merging them. That at least would take less time than merging them and setting the redirects (and fixing the double redirects). --[[User:Novelty|Nov]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]], [[User_talk:Novelty|Talk]]</sup> 15:44, 12 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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* Hmmm. In a way I can see what Conndraka wants to do and I can see what the problem is too. On the one hand Conndraka is creating Wiki pages that will act as a helpful template to assist anyone who wants to update that Location page. On the other hand until that happens its not really a worthwhile Wiki page. I prefer a middle-ground as I take this path in my efforts. In truth I visit very few of the buildings I've created Wiki pages for so I lack solid facts which are important to any Wiki page to make it worthwhile. Knowing that I add content based solely on backstory since at the very least it's an interesting read. The real purpose is to create a foothold by which users can find the Location and add their own thoughts to the page rather than finding nothing and being discouraged (thus posting nothing). To date my efforts have paid off on such Location pages as [[Sirl Plaza]] and [[St. Odile's Church]]. Of course it helps if I visit the building and tell people about the Wiki page.<br><br>Back on the topic of grouping pages, I think the "group now and split later" might work... with my only concern being new users not realizing how to edit such pages or when/if they can be split off. As for [[Sadley Way Fire Station]], I really liked that page... heh... that place was '''cursed'''. I once found zombies attacking it when there was no one even inside. As I recall I attacked the zombies, screamed "Sadley Way Fire Station will never be overrun! We'll never let you get inside!", and over-barricaded before leaving. I wonder if they ever appreciated my joke...? Ah well, it sure makes for a good story though. --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius187]] 11:31 AM, Mar 14 2006 (EST)<br />
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::: Thank you! exactly what I was trying to do... and Dunell Hills tries to keep the entire suburb, ''except'' the resource buildings max 'caded. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]] 17:55, 15 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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===Fire Stations===<br />
Currently, the [[The Urban Dead Wiki:Location Style Guide#Page Names|Page Names]] section lists Firestation as one word, though the Category for the building type is listed as Fire Station. Additionally, the page groupings of this building type are listed as Fire Departments. For the sake of consistency, perhaps it should just be Fire Stations all around? --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 02:06, 19 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
: The location as such is named "Fire Station" in the game. I think that should be maintained. I have corrected the typo to list it as 2 words in the [[The Urban Dead Wiki:Location Style Guide#Page Names|Page Names]] section. The grouped building types are listed as "Fire Department", not the plural form. This is because, the [[Malton Fire Department]] infomation for the [[suburb]] is actually (or should be) located on the (grouped) page and as such, it is not just about the fire stations alone, but the Fire Department for that suburb. I'll make a note of that as well. Don't ask me why the MFD was included and the MPD isn't - I think one of the reasons is that there are numerous PD groups out there with conflicting infomation which is why they were left off. The other reason, I guess, is that the MPD doesn't seem as active as the MFD. --[[User:Novelty|Nov]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]], [[User_talk:Novelty|Talk]]</sup> 02:30, 19 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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== Buildings with Same Name ==<br />
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There's a guideline for buildings with the same name in different suburbs, but what about ones in the same suburb? What comes to mind is [[Pridmore Way School]] in [[Old Arkham]]. There are two of them (seperated by two other buildings). At the moment, I'm doing Building Name XX, YY when I need to create links (so [[Pridmore Way School 10, 96]]), as if it was a building without a name. Any other suggestions for something, or should I keep it like this? &mdash; [[User:G026r|g026r]] 18:52, 10 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
:Does one have any more significance than the other? One could probably just list both Building Name (Suburb), and mention that there are two at separate locations, unless there's something that makes one much more significant than the other. The other issue is that if the Buildings aren't particularly significant, perhaps it's best if you just leave the information at the Suburb Building page. -- [[User:Odd Starter|Odd Starter]] <sup> [[User talk:Odd Starter|talk]] | [[Moderation|Mod]] | [[Project Welcome|W!]]</sup> 00:13, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
::No significance that I know of. Then again, I don't think anyone's wikified any of Old Arkham yet, and I don't really spend any time there. (One of them borders on New Arkham, and therefore a link appeared in a 9-block template, hence the reason I was asking.) &mdash; [[User:G026r|g026r]] 00:27, 11 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
::I would agree with [[User:Odd Starter|Odd Starter]] - just create one page for the both of them at this point in time. There are no other building in other [[suburb]]s with that name. When they get a lot more info as the game progresses, then the page can serve as a disambiguation page and the individual pages can then have the coordinates suffixed to the pagename, as per the guideline for generic locations (although that's stretching things a bit there). --[[User:Novelty|Nov]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]], [[User_talk:Novelty|Talk]]</sup> 06:03, 12 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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== Hospital Image ==<br />
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Just a note that the current style guideline has the Fire Department symbol listed. What is the current symbol to use for hospitals? Is it this one? [[:Image:Maltonhospitals.PNG]]<br />
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:Yes, sorry, thanks for pointing that out. I've edited the section to provide the correct logo. --[[User:Novelty|Nov]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]], [[User_talk:Novelty|Talk]]</sup> 05:58, 12 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:: I'm curious, should all hospitals use this symbol or can there be some variety in the image (not symbol) we post? I'm referring of course to the image I created/posted for [[St. Anacletus's Hospital]]. Although I do realize it's a bit wide for 800x600 screens. Also on this note, what about a standard image for Railroad Stations... like I did for [[Heddington Walk Railway Station]]? And yes, a bit wide for 800x600 (but I can reduce it). --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius187]] 11:41 AM, Mar 14 2006 (EST)<br />
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::: Please keep the symbols the same, but feel free to have a variety of images for each different location. In fact it would be preferable that no 2 locations share the same image, although practically speaking, I wonder if that is even possible. The image you created for those 2 locations are great. Note, to reduce the image size on the page, simply put a pipe followed by the size you require in pixels, e.g. <nowiki>[[Image:abc.jpg|300px]]</nowiki>. This will cause the page to display the image 300 pixels wide. --[[User:Novelty|Nov]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]], [[User_talk:Novelty|Talk]]</sup> 01:21, 15 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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:::: The railway station image took me a while to find. I wanted a night scene, an empty platform, no trains, and a view of the tracks. It was harder to find all those in one image than it sounds. In the end I felt a B&W image helped set the mood and used a similar technique for the hospital's image. I reduced the size of the images to 500px so they fit better. --[[User:Mobius187|Mobius187]] 8:15 AM, Mar 15 2006 (EST)<br />
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::::The Idea that each location have a different image is not only practical, but possible. (hmm odd sentance structure there) Most of the Pics I uploaded were from public domain pic sites, now admittedly I've only done about a suburb and a half so far, but I got most of my pics off of just one site, which was one of about 30 that my search engine pulled up. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]] 17:51, 15 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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::::: It's definately possible, but I don't know if it's all that practical. It'd be an awful lot of work, and for grouped pages, it'd make things a lot more irritating to lay out. It would be nice to have a different visual representation of every building, for imagination and RP purposes, but when you get right down to it, it's one hell of a task. I mean, the firefox plugins even reuse generic building images.<br />
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::::: By the way, Nov.. Sorry I took so long to check this all out, but I kinda had my hands full with a full-scale war in Huntley recently. Everything looks great, and I'm slightly proud to see that some of my pages were used as examples. --[[User:Aiden Hodder|Aiden H]] <sup>[[The 4-H|4H]]</sup> 11:54, 24 March 2006 (GMT)<br />
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Just wanted to resurect this thing. If you could add in something about our little template {{tl|MHGN}} That would be great, Seeing as how Malton Hospitals Doesn't actulaly do anything.--[[User:Labine50|Labine50]] <sup>'''[[Malton Hospitals Group|MHG]]'''</sup> 20:06, 8 June 2006 (BST)<br />
:Correct the terrible grammar, and coding faults with it, and "maybe". {{User:Xoid/sig}} 07:30, 9 June 2006 (BST)<br />
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== Disambiguation Pages&hellip; ==<br />
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Why the <code><nowiki>{{disambiguation}}</nowiki></code>? It should be <code><nowiki>{{disambig}}</nowiki></code>. And why near the top? It's an ugly mess like that. {{User:Xoid/sig|}} 21:28, 24 April 2006 (BST)<br />
*Probably because... Well I don't know. Mistake or old information? Should be changed. <s>About the location: I don't know if this is the reason, but for pages that have some larger templates, like suburb or map or similar, the top of the page is a horrible mess already. So adding a category tag there won't mess the rest of the page. In reality I have no idea :D </s> Oh lets take that back, I have no idea what I was thinkink. Of course disambigs don't have any boxes or similar (except [[Dunell Hills Police Department]], but that's one annoying special case, see [[Special:Disambiguations]]) --[[User:Brizth|Brizth]] <sup>[[Project Welcome|W!]] [[Moderation/Promotions#Brizth|M]] [[User_talk:Brizth|T]]</sup> 21:43, 24 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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==Why place locations stubs under [[:Category:Stubs]]?==<br />
Please remove the Stub categorization requirement as it makes it nigh impossible to fish out non-location-related articles to work on. --[[User:Lint|Lint]] 19:34, 30 April 2006 (BST)<br />
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I second that motion. Besides &ndash; it's redundant! Why bother having <code><nowiki>{{locations-stub}}</nowiki></code> place location stubs under [[:Category:Stubs/Locations]] if you're going to place them under [[:Category:Stubs]] as well? {{User:Xoid/sig|}} 06:04, 1 May 2006 (BST)<br />
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==Minor modifications to guidelines==<br />
If no one can give any proper reasoning behind the plural/non-plural grouping of certain pages (see [[UDWiki:Location_Style_Guide#Page_Names]]), I'm going to change the guidelines a bit. Namely to get rid of some of the stupid non-plural forms. After modifications the section would read as:<br />
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*'''NecroTech ''suburbname'''''<br />
*'''''suburbname'' Auto Repair Shops'''<br />
*'''''suburbname'' Fire Department'''<br />
*'''''suburbname'' Police Department'''<br />
*'''''suburbname'' Pubs''' (instead of '''''suburbname'' Arms''')<br />
*'''''suburbname'' School District'''<br />
*'''Streets of ''suburbname'''''<br />
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I feel that getting rid of fire and police department pages might also be warranted, but maybe a simply redirect would work. Actually same for schools. --[[User:Brizth|Brizth]] <sup>[[UDWiki:Moderation|M]] [[User_talk:Brizth|T]]</sup> 11:49, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
:''Yagoton Fire Department'' as compared to ''Yagoton Fire Departments''? The plural simply does not sound right to me. Same with the other. Nor does ''wastelands'', for that matter. Where is an English major when you need one? {{User:Xoid/sig}} 12:28, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
::Well, ok, for FD and PD it might sound a bit weird. But at least for the wasteland (singular) I get the impression of one, large, unified wasteland area. Same for Carpark. --[[User:Brizth|Brizth]] <sup>[[UDWiki:Moderation|M]] [[User_talk:Brizth|T]]</sup> 12:43, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
:::I don't disagree about "Carpark", but wastelands? Meh. Feel free to change it. {{User:Xoid/sig}} 12:51, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
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:Jeeze, can't we just go with the way it is, so we don't have to go back and change it all again? It wouldn't bother me either way... but so much is done now, I see little improvement in having to redo everything to add an "s" -- {{User:Boxy/sig}} 13:20, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
::There's not that much to be moved. Namely [[Huntley_Heights_Carpark]], [[Wykewood_Carpark]], [[Mockridge_Heights_Carpark]], [[Wyke_Hills_Carpark]], [[East_Boundwood_Wasteland]], [[Wyke_Hills_Wasteland]] and [[Mockridge_Heights_Wasteland]]. The resulting redirects will handle all the current links. --[[User:Brizth|Brizth]] <sup>[[UDWiki:Moderation|M]] [[User_talk:Brizth|T]]</sup> 15:49, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
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''moved from [[M/SD]]''<br />
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Uh, folks? I actually know the reason. If you have a singular link (e.g., [[Sandbox]]), then you can easily create derivative links like [[Sandbox]]es, produced by typing <code><nowiki>[[Sandbox]]es</nowiki></code>. However, if you have a plural link like [[Mockridge Heights Wastelands]], there is no way to go backwards without doing something like <code><nowiki>[[Mockridge Heights Wastelands|Mockridge Heights Wasteland]]</nowiki></code>. {{User:BobHammero/Sig}} 19:22, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
:Yeah, I knew that. But most of those grouped pages are with the plural, so why the arbitrary difference for carpark and wasteland? See [[UDWiki:Location_Style_Guide#Page_Names]] --[[User:Brizth|Brizth]] <sup>[[UDWiki:Moderation|M]] [[User_talk:Brizth|T]]</sup> 19:32, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
::Well, Police Department and Fire Department make sense to me. You don't normally hear of a city having more than one PD/FD &mdash; it's more along the lines of "Foobartown Fire Department," if you think about it. Same thing goes for School District. Why Wasteland and Carpark are singular, however, is a mystery to me. I still think it might be good to go with the singular form so that we can do the link style I mentioned above, however. {{User:BobHammero/Sig}} 19:59, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
:::True, PDs, FDs and schools make sense. But I'm not that sure about singular for everything. Just exactly how many times someone is going to link to [[Wyke_Hills_Carpark]] (singular) when there's three carparks there? --[[User:Brizth|Brizth]] <sup>[[UDWiki:Moderation|M]] [[User_talk:Brizth|T]]</sup> 20:07, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
::::That's a good point. What if we split the difference and used a common-sense approach? PD, FD, and School would remain singular; Auto, Carpark, Wasteland, and Streets would be plural if the suburb had more than one of each, singular otherwise; and what about bringing Streets and NT in line with the nomenclature? Something like "Ridleybank NecroTech" and "Ridleybank Streets"? {{User:BobHammero/Sig}} 20:22, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
:::::Fine by me. And when something is moved the resulting redirect should be kept. They don't take ''that'' much space and it would ease the transition. --[[User:Brizth|Brizth]] <sup>[[UDWiki:Moderation|M]] [[User_talk:Brizth|T]]</sup> 20:37, 27 July 2006 (BST)<br />
::::::I disagree with keeping the redirects. There aren't going to be ''that'' many of them, and there are enough redirects already, as is. Besides, the "''The resulting redirects will handle all the current links.''" line of reasoning is flawed &mdash; redirects don't go to anchors and that's what many of those links are. {{User:Xoid/sig}} 03:37, 28 July 2006 (BST)<br />
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:Well, are we doing this or what? I'm not going to bother starting on any other pages until we decide one way or the other -- [[User:Boxy|Boxy]] 06:35, 30 July 2006 (BST)<br />
::If the other two would comment, I would. Normally I'd just make an executive decision, but for once someone other than myself is interested in the LSG. {{User:Xoid/sig}} 07:19, 30 July 2006 (BST)<br />
:::Let's do it. I'm a bit busy now, but I'll write the modifications in an hour. I think BobHammero's latest suggestion is the best. --[[User:Brizth|Brizth]] <sup>[[UDWiki:Moderation|M]] [[User_talk:Brizth|T]]</sup> 20:51, 30 July 2006 (BST)<br />
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:When I created Wykewood Carpark I thought this seemed wacky. Would anyone consider '''''suburbname'' Parking'''? Just something I never brought up. --[[User:Max Grivas|Max Grivas]] <sup>[[Josephine's Generals|JG]],[[User talk:Max Grivas|T]],[[Project Wiki Patrol|P!]]</sup> 21:02, 30 July 2006 (BST)<br />
::Hmm. I'm not really keen on using names that differ from the game. Even using "School District" makes me itchy. --[[User:Brizth|Brizth]] <sup>[[UDWiki:Moderation|M]] [[User_talk:Brizth|T]]</sup> 22:31, 30 July 2006 (BST)<br />
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I edited the guidelines, see [[UDWiki:Location_Style_Guide#Page_Names]] --[[User:Brizth|Brizth]] <sup>[[UDWiki:Moderation|M]] [[User_talk:Brizth|T]]</sup> 22:31, 30 July 2006 (BST)<br />
:I added streets to the list. We don't have to go with school district, either, if you're unsure of that. {{User:BobHammero/Sig}} 22:44, 30 July 2006 (BST)<br />
::If you're doing the schools too, then get too it, because any other changes from now on may well provoke a hissy fit ;) -- {{User:Boxy/sig}} 08:28, 2 August 2006 (BST)<br />
:::Done. {{User:Xoid/sig}} 11:00, 2 August 2006 (BST)<br />
==[[:Category:Locations]]==<br />
In the Categories section of the guide it says to no longer use [[:Category:Locations]] due to something about spam. Is this still true? If not then would it be all right to remove the notes.<br />
If it is still true than why is this being done? I couldn't not find the reasoning behind this decision and don't understand the end result. The Locations Category is a needed category for locations pages that have too much information to be call a stub. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:00, 3 July 2007 (BST)<br />
:Yeah, it's still true. There is no point having a category with every single location on the wiki in it... the way I understand it, that category was supposed to be for notable locations... hell, it may as well be scrapped if you ask me. What's being done? Nothing much, I take the tags off any pages I see it (unless it's a notable location)... that's about it -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[Location Nuts|Nuts2U]] [[Dead Animals/Redux|DA]]</sup> 09:20, 4 July 2007 (BST)<br />
::Actual I can think of a few good reasons to have a category with every location in it but if we are talking about scraping the category why don't we just change its role a little. Since we have the Categories for [[:Category:Streets|streets]], [[:Category:Buildings|buildings]] and every other location type why not use this category to categorize the existing useful category locations? Our current category organization system is a wreak and this could be help bring it back together.- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 09:46, 4 July 2007 (BST)<br />
:::What reasons are they (I'm curious). There's already [[Locations List|lists of locations]], that's why adding every location page to it just seems like useless duplication. Those categories are already sub categories of the locations category (or did you just add them?) -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[Location Nuts|Nuts2U]] [[Dead Animals/Redux|DA]]</sup> 15:37, 4 July 2007 (BST)<br />
::::Well after thinking about my reasons a little longer I am more inclined to agree with but to satisfy your curiosity my reasons were.<br />
# Consistency with the way other categories are added, [[:Category:Groups]] is suppose to be added to every group page even though doing so is rather redundant since the next category is suppose be eihter [[:Category:Human Groups]] or [[:Category:Zombie Groups]] (or [[:Category:Zombie-Human Alliances]].<br />
# Ive always thought the [Locations List]]s was meant to be a tool for location page creation and not navigation. Also Ive had problems with the locations list accuracy every suburb Ive worked on from the list as had some "the"s missing from building names or a trailing space included in the link. <br />
I many have had more reason but those were the better ones but as I said before I no longer agree with them. As for Sub categories, I overlooked the first section and the suburbs names and names in alphabetical order. Dropping the locations articles from the category sounds fine to me but while we are doing it would it be possible to remove the suburbs from the category and just make [[:Category:Suburbs]] a sub cat of locations as well.- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 05:24, 6 July 2007 (BST)<br />
:Sounds fair enough to me -- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User_talk:boxy|T]] [[Location Nuts|Nuts2U]] [[Dead Animals/Redux|DA]]</sup> 07:32, 6 July 2007 (BST)<br />
Ok I finally finished dearticleing [[:Category:Location]], my plan now is to change [[:Category:Suburbs]] into a "Subcat-only" category by replacing the articles on each suburb with the category for each suburb once I get it a;; worked out I can go back and write something up for [[UDWiki:Location Category Style Guide]] to full explain how it all works - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 20:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Error disambiguation ==<br />
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[[The Whaits Hotel]] is a disambiguation page. However, there is no any whaits hotel in earltown or any other suburbs except eastonwood. i would fix it right away, but i wonder how could this error appear? --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
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==Update==<br />
This style guide has not been followed that strictly and that is starting to create some problems so I think it is time to update the style guide so it better reflect the existing location pages and their preferred style. Some of the bigger questions are what do we want to do with merged location pages (such as [[Huntley Heights Museums]]) and what redirects should be created for each location. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 05:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Turn them into portals or get rid of them completely. The information being on those pages discourages adding information to them. The pages themselves shouldn't be redirects the names on the merged/portal page should link to those buildings.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 16:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
::I don't see it as discouraging in any way. However, i also don't like when locations are merged for buildiings. IMHO, merging them for streets, parks, carparks and wastelands is good, for buildings - bad --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 19:47, 18 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::I think that's the consensus. Streets merging=good, buildings=bad. How about we see if we can make that a policy? I'm no good at writing them, but I think it would pass. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 21:52, 18 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
::::Things happen on streets too. And Duke, I personally have decided not to edit information onto those pages because of how they are set up, I'm sure I'm not the only one.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::::The merged pages are useful for some things so just getting rid of them would be less than ideal. What about keeping all the information on a seprate page for each location but then using template calls to create the merged page for the suburb (something like [[User:Vantar/Multi location|this]])- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's essentially a portal, [[Shearbank_Hotels|this]] is the type of thing I meant when I said turn them into portals.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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I absolutely hate it when locations are slapped into one page. It makes it too large, harder to add content, takes longer to load, is confusing, is incredibly annoying to fix blocks and just plain ugly. Instead of various stubs that are easily expandable and more customizable (a few locations have neat backgrounds, etc) we have one big fat stub. But a portal would be ok, I suppose.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:20, 19 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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Why not try something new, we give every location it's own page then create a bunch of categories like Category:Shearbank Hotels that would basically serve as the portal. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 03:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:You and your categories... <small><small>robot, perhaps?</small></small> Sounds like a good idea. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 03:58, 19 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:The advantage of a portal-style page is that you get nice block views for the given buildings, as opposed to just a name. Categories aren't really useful that way, and most people would probably just search for the building articles the usual way. Not to say that categorizing stuff isn't important. --[[User:Daranz|Daranz]]<sup>.[[User_talk:Daranz|t]].[[UDWiki:Administration|<s>mod</s> janitor]].[[Wiki (Monitors)^infinity|W(M)^∞]].</sup> 14:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
I liked Vantars idea of template calling the info onto the merged pages. The only problem I see, it it will make some of them huge. The simplest way is to just make them a list of links, at least for building pages, and leave the streets, parks, etc as merged pages, and only single out the locations that need to be separate (revive points) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 01:30 20 December 2007 (BST)</small><br />
:exactly what i'm talking about --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 06:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I, for one, loathe the idea of making differentiating in the style by the type of block, that and the block itself should always have it's own page. Standards matter, both in browsing the wiki and creating the pages and having differing standards would just serve to make things harder to find.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 06:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:So, a portal in list form? Some pages, not just buildings have lengthy descriptions. Heck, I think there's a club that has a pink background, or something. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:04, 22 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
Ok so it is sounding like people want a page for each individual location with a category based portal system to organize it. The other big issue is what redirects should point to pages? Currently the redirects should be:<br />
# The coordinate of the block (e.g. 33,24 redirects to Evans Row Fire Station)<br />
# "St" locations (e.g. St Swithun's Church redirects to St. Swithun's Church)<br />
# "Police Dept" (e.g. Lentell Walk Police Dept redirects to Lentell Walk Police Department)<br />
# "the" buildings (e.g. Darnell Building redirects to The Darnell Building) <br />
Too many? Too few? - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 01:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Eh fine enough. I did notice that St. X Church or St. X General Hospital doesn't actually have a period ingame. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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Should we base the pages that used to be merged locations pages on disambiguation pages? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:48 23 December 2007 (BST)</small><br />
==Voting==<br />
From what it sounds like people want each location page to have it's own page and then for a series of merged pages/portals that has all the location of a building type in each suburb. What is not clear is what system to uses so let have a vote. Here are the options if you have a question about a system ask it in the appropriate questions section. Voting will last until a week goes by with out more imput then the guidelines will be rewritten to reflect that system - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 09:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
===The Current System===<br />
The current system has two type of location page. The locationed blocked pages such as [[Evans Row Fire Station]] which contains all the in-depth information about 1 location in malton and the Merged Location pages such as [[Shearbank Hotels]]. The merged location pages contain multiple location block for each location of a certain [[Building Types|building type]] in a Suburb.<br />
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{|border="1" style="margin: auto auto"<br />
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!'''Pros'''<br />
!'''Cons''' <br />
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*Cuts down on the number of location stubs<br />
*Users can see the status on many buildings from one page<br />
*The Portal page displays each locations location block<br />
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<!-- List Cons here --><br />
*Creates duplicate entries for the same location <br />
*Pages can become to lengthy to be easily navigated <br />
|}<br />
====Questions/Comments====<br />
''If you have a question or want some clarification about this system ask here''<br />
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Eh, so we would still have a portal page, but have separate pages too? Frankly, I think we should bomb the hell out of the portal pages and stick with the single pages. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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===The Templated Portal System===<br />
This system also has two location page types, the locationed blocked pages are the same as in the current system but here the merged Location pages are made out of template-called locations blocked pages as show [[User:Vantar/Multi location|here]] <br />
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{|border="1" style="margin: auto auto"<br />
|-<br />
!'''Pros'''<br />
!'''Cons''' <br />
|-<br />
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<!-- List Pros here --><br />
*Avoids the information duplication of the current system <br />
*Users can see the status on many buildings from one page<br />
*The Portal page displays each locations location block<br />
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<!-- List Cons here --><br />
*Merged pages harder to edit<br />
*Too many template call can cause technical problems<br />
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====Questions/Comments====<br />
''If you have a question or want some clarification about this system ask here''<br />
===The Category System===<br />
Each location has it's own location blocked page. Then Categories such as Category:Shearbank Hotels are applied to make a list that serves as substitute to the merged pages that the current system uses<br />
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{|border="1" style="margin: auto auto"<br />
|-<br />
!'''Pros'''<br />
!'''Cons''' <br />
|-<br />
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*Avoids the information duplication of the current system <br />
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*Requires the creation of 2000 categories (1 per location type per suburb) <br />
*The category based portal will only have a list of locations <br />
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====Questions/Comments====<br />
''If you have a question or want some clarification about this system ask here''<br />
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20,000 categories? Aren't there only 10,000 blocks in Malton? Sorry if I've missed something obvious, I've only skimmed this discussion. --[[User:Toejam|Toejam]] 22:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:You are right there was an extra zero in there, typo on my part I have fixed it now, 20 building types x 100 suburbs =2000 categories - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 22:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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===The Delete Them All System===<br />
Every page has it own page with a location block, no merged pages.<br />
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{|border="1" style="margin: auto auto"<br />
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!'''Pros'''<br />
!'''Cons''' <br />
|-<br />
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<!-- List Pros here --><br />
*Avoids the information duplication of the current system <br />
*Avoids the need to pick a method of merged page organizations <br />
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*No fancy navigation on streets merged pages<br />
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====Questions/Comments====<br />
''If you have a question or want some clarification about this system ask here''<br />
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===Voting===<br />
Place your vote in this format "system name - signature"<br />
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*:<s>'''neither'''... as i already told, there are location types that are better in one system and location types that are better in another sytem.</s> --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 12:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
*:<s>'''The Category System.''' Pages like "streets in dentonside" drive me mad. THere so long, and its always one half way through im looking for. Im more than willing to help catergorise. Plus if a group wants to take over a building, splurge it with history and pictures is better as a single page. </s>--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''Delete all System''' Wasn't an option before. Want hospitals in a burb?, theyre all on the burb page. In a big box. Streets dont all need to be catergorised, unless they're watching.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#:<s>I would say my vote goes to the category system, for reasons listed above.</s><br />
# I like delete all system better--01:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)--{{User:Rictor_Stilwell/sig}} 20:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#:<s>The Category system will make Categories even less manageable than they are now and it will be out of the way in the Category namespace and thus ''useless''. The current system is horrible and unstandardized. As such the only system that makes sense is the #'''''Templated System''''' Which can have a few minor modifications in the future but will always be relatively user friendly, have easy maintenance(as it's simply a few template calls), and the amount of information isn't set, nor is it harder to find.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)</s><br />
#:There's also a Locationblock vs LocationblockMerged problem in Templated system. First is good for single pages, but if N of them get template-called into one portal - there would be the huge clog of these Info-parts, as seen on Vantar's example. Even more, a templated system loses the main reason the all-on-one page is so useful for "streets" - '''navigation''' that doesn't need page reload. --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#::That problem is semi-easily solved, by messing around with includeonly tags you can omit the info part. See the last location in my example to see what I mean- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 21:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#:::Or simple new templates can be made sans that information. There are ''plenty'' of ways to deal with such a problem.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#::::Vantar, navigation problem isn't soved in your example. although i agree that it is solvable with messing includeonly and noinclude into the template. will have a look later --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 22:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#:::::There is only one problem with templated navigation, that would be file size, which would take some managing, but is very doable. And since most locations pages never get big enough for it to be a problem it will probably only come up for malls and forts. That can be made not a problem with archiving/maintenance and some slight ingenuity/work.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''Category system'''. Reasons outlined above.--[[User:Nallan|Nick]] 22:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''<s>Neither</s>''' - I don't like any of these systems, even the current one. Leave portals to the mages, kthx.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''Delete them all system.''' --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#Above. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 13:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#:Spell it out? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 10:00 1 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
#'''The Delete Them All System''' At one time they had a use, that time has past. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 19:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#The delete them all option wasnt avaliable when i voted. '''Spam''' edited during voting. Remind me agin how i strike my vote? It involves the letter "s" i remember.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#:{{s|you strike things like this --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 20:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)}}<br />
#::Um this isn't the suggestions page the don't alter rule doesn't apply here. The voting is a lot less rigid since we all have to use the style guide when it is done so there is nothing to be gain from hampering more options. If you have a suggest fill free to dd it to the options. Also <nowiki> <s> and </s></nowiki> strike out thing too- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 20:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#:::I wondered why a conversation happened half way through the voting then, thanks for the input.--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''Delete Them All System''' Though it has some problems, a page for every location is the easiest to maintain with many different editors. --{{User:Frozen_Flame/sig}} 05:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''The Delete Them All System''' - Thats the way I thought the system was set-up, every location should have its own page.--[[User:Memoman|Memoman]] 03:54, 31 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''Delete Them All System''' - The best way to do it. We already have the groundwork there, except where people have messed them up by merging. --[[User:Grim_s|The Grimch]] <sup>[[Project UnWelcome|U!]] [[Project Evil|E!]] [[We are Trolls!|WAT!]]</sup> 04:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''Kirr it in File'''--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#ah, the nades. i'm giving up my favorite pretty navigation then. '''Burn them All System''' --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 07:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''Delete Them All''' --[[User:Bullgod|Bullgod]] 09:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''Hybrid''' whereby building locations have their own, individual location pages and streets are merged into a single page. Individual pages for every street seems a bit pointless. I guess the '''Delete them all''' option comes closest to this if "Hybrid" isn't valid.--[[User:Sunil|Sunil]] 11:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
#:Ya, I agree streets dont necessarily need their own page and should be the last locations implemented if at all in the new system.--[[User:Memoman|Memoman]] 04:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
#'''Delete them all''' - but only once all links to them have been fixed, until then, they should be left as a list of links (each link under a header of the location's name) to the actual location pages <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:58 1 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
#'''Delete them all''' - exactly as boxy. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 12:43, 2 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
'''Voting closed on 20:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)'''<br />
===Results===<br />
Ok '''Delete them all''' has won by a landslide. So it will be the system used. The style guide shall now be rewrite to reflect that A draft copy of the rewritten guide should be available here later on today for community input. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 20:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Just for a note, [[NecroTech Dulston|a good example]] of what is written in boxy's vote and what should be left of "merged" pages --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 21:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Huh? All Boxy said was about things getting the links fixed before deleting them, not leaving things off of the list of things to delete.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::No, that's an example of what should be left on merged pages until all the links are fixed (and it gets deleted) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:26 13 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
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===New Style Guide===<br />
The draft copy is up. If you want to compare the old one to the new one you can do so [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Location_Style_Guide&diff=next&oldid=753136 here] <br />
If there is something you don't like about it here is the place to speak up so that it can be resolved. If there is minor spelling/grammar things feel free to fix them.- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]]<br />
====Danger Reports====<br />
:[[UDWiki:Location Style Guide#Danger Reports|this]] is totally wrong. i don't recall we decided that anywhere --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 07:11, 13 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::It wasn't and is a significant departure from what has always been done. Please remove it.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Always been done? Danger report templates are a relatively new addition to the wiki. Building status has always been in the body of the page <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:28 13 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
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All during the update people have been saying that all location pages should have a similar look, avoid repetitive information and not involve the editing of more then one page. Since not every page should have one the danger report templates go against all three of those points. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 16:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:::: (re:boxy) Danger report plugs for buildings other than [[bic]], [[bbic]] and [[nic]] appeared soon after the system got spread, starting (i believe) from my [[zic]]. That's April 2007. Is 10 month not long enough? (re:Vantar) The question wether all pages need danger level plug or not is indeed very delicate, NTs that are all-arround important buildings often don't get regular enough updates. And when much more "un"-important buildings like non-necrotech buildings and fire stations got themself danger level plugs ([[West Grayside Building Information Center|wg-bic]], May 2007) i was against it and occasinaly raised that on A/D as not-updated. The decision, a precedent we might say, was to let them have it. Thus, returning to this case, we cannot say that suddenly some locations "desserve" danger level plug on their page and some not because of similar look. --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 20:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::We can, but only for non-building locations. I'm in complete agreement with Duke on this.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::The usefulness of the danger reports is that the status of multiple locations can be viewed quickly in an easy to process manor. Necrotechs and Malls are the only two building types that is really needed for. This is not just a simple issues of looks, in most cases page functionality is not improved by the danger report template so it should not be included- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 05:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::They don't clutter up the page any more than all that junk that was thrown on there by the people spreading the Locations Guides in the first place, and I'd definitely say they're more useful than the Barricade Plan header shoved on all of those pages as they actually give somewhat real time information, or, at the very least show information about the groups in the area, even when they aren't updated, or rather ''especially'' then.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 06:09, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::What junk are you referring to? The barricade header is for information about the about the barricade plan which is rather useful information to have. I do not follow your comment about one providing real time information and one not. The content of the current status header and the content of the danger report holds the same information. Both require users to update them and the accuracy and usefulness of both systems is dependent when they were last updated. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 20:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::First off no, it's not useful at all, it may be useful on a suburb level but, unless it's an entry point it's useless on the building level. Second It's obviously biased information that can only ever serve survivors and has no purpose other than cementing Barricade Plans(which are blatant pov anyway) into the NPOV category. Third, out of the two Danger Report is actually more useful because of all the things it does provide, but, most importantly the easy to see visual stimuli. The usefulness of the news is dependent on being updated constantly but, the usefulness of the Danger Report is dependent on what it's last update was, very different things when you consider that the Danger Report almost always provides more information. I'd say that they are no more useless than they are at malls which is where they lose most of their usefulness.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Barricades plans are not survivor biased. They say what level of barricade is recommended by the suburb, from there a human player can look and find a well defended point or a zombie play can find a weaker point (and possible many humans without free running). Barricade plans are listed or linked to one nearly every suburb. If you are going to have a page filled with information about a certain location why leave out things about that location. The type of information that is added to a danger report page is the same type of information that should be in the current status section so one can not better then the other in terms of content. If we are talking about POV though the current status section wins because Danger reports ratings like "safe" are very survivor biased while current status reports along the lines of "5 zombies outside" are more neural. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 23:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Barricade plans are very survivor biased and that you can't see that amuses me to no end. If you want to see more on this debate take a jaunt over to the [[NPOV]] talk page where it has been done ad nauseum. As for danger reports, this should reflect the communities standards of editing, not yours, it's obvious from the way that the Danger Reports have been done in the past that there is a significant difference between the two. Yes, the danger reports could have some name changes but, since it's pretty obviously a survivor oriented wiki I doubt anyone really cares, hell, most zombie players on this wiki that I know of actually like the danger report template simply because it's an easy way to see status without dealing with all the crappy survivor POV junk that's on pretty much every location or suburb page on this wiki.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Having read through the entire NPOV talk page I can say I see no POV conflict in having a Barricades header that listed off the recommended barricade level of a location as stated by the relevant barricade plans for the area. Some like "The [[Miltown Barricade Plan]] recommends that this building be very strongly barricaded at all times". If you disagree, just make up a new section under this so we make up a workable agreement. Back to the main issue of danger reports. The point of the changes to the current events section is to avoid having it fill up with "crappy survivor POV junk". My issue with it is an over complicated system with little benefit. Why is template needed when the same functionality can be achieved on one page? - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 00:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::It's needed because the same functionality ''can not'' be achieved. It serves as a very quick summary method to get the important information on the building, the functionality is unequaled anywhere else in the wiki except [[Suburb]]. --<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::That functionality is only needed for important buildings though (usually [[TRP]]s), and Vantar doesn't dispute that they should have the templated danger reports <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 03:55 15 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
:::::::::::::::That's assuming people only go to [[TRP]]s, it's limiting usefulness to important [[survivor]] buildings simply for the sake of cleanliness. It's what I'd call Playing Project Welcome with the LSG.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::::It's not the cleanliness that is the issue, it is that templates make status reports more difficult to update (you have to go to a separate page to edit instead of just editing a single section on the page itself) for no benefit unless the template is used in other locations (such as the [[BIC]]). The great majority of buildings in Malton have no need of a templated danger report because they are only of interest to residents of those building. Keep it simple (4 teh newbies), unless there is a real need for a more complex method <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 04:28 15 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
:::::::::::::::::The different page thing is easier than the News thing, and more straight forward, it's like the Suburb Danger Reports after the How to update links were added whereas there's no informative guide, or information at all for that matter, on how to do the News section. I would, however, say that [[BIC]] is an example of a completely useless page, same with [[NIC]], they're too useless and too crowded, unlike the [[MIC]] which actually does provide some information in a useful manner because of the rarity and importance of malls.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
I think this could be fixed to all of our satisfaction by making a universal building-status template to put on any non-significant building. It would look the same as all the User:DangerReport templates, but be editable simply by editing the location page itself. That way all the buildings can have their status at the top of the page, but only significant buildings would need to have a User:DangerReport template made especially for them <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 05:47 15 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
:like "subst:"-ed danger report template? hm... well, yes, anytime it'll need to be transformed into a "real" template - that would be possible and relatevely easy. i like it. --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 09:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Huh? Subst:ing it would be a bad idea, mostly because it adds to the already sloppy code on the page. It's simpler just having the update link as it is now, it's never caused a problem in the past, not that I've seen. It's pretty straight forward and simple the way it is and the Danger Report, on pages that they are used, frequently get more edits than the location pages News section, probably for that reason. All Subst:ing it will do is complicate usability.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I didn't mean substing the template, I meant making a template to go on the page that looks just like the danger report ones. It would have a couple of fields for the report and danger level that could be edited simply by editing the page <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:45 15 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
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Hell, we can just put {{tl|BuildingStatus}} on the page directly! <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:49 15 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
{{BuildingStatus|<br />
building=The Silly Building|xy=(101,101)|<br />
status=safe|<br />
comment=It's very dark inside, can somebody bring a genny?|<br />
user= -[[User:NobodySpecial|Nobody]] 09:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Oh, not quite. But a template just like it, with the "edit" link changed so that it just edits the page (or removed altogether) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 09:51 15 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
::Think of trying to find that amidst all the other sloppy code on the pages, there's quite a bit thanks to those TRP tables and the summary on the right. It's more difficult if you include {{tl|BuildingStatus}} on the page and actually discourages updating it, if that was how it was done then they shouldn't be on the page at all because you'll have effectively made them more hassle than they are worth. As of current they're no hassle at all to update(beyond the |user= thing which people delete often and is really just a minor issue).--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::If it was at the top of the page, or in a section of it's own, it would be easy to find <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 11:53 15 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
::::Boxy, I have the order the templates are added in memorized and I even often get confused about which template I'm in and what I'm looking for on those pages.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 16:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::You what? What I'm suggesting is that stub or little used location pages get the buildingstatus template. If anyone finds it hard to keep track of what template they're in on such a page, well... they're not going to find editing any page easy. Any page where there are enough templates to cause confusion are probably high priority buildings that deserve their own UserDangerReport template <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 11:15 21 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
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Ok here are what the proposed systems would look like.<br />
*The building status as a template without other pages to edit displayed is [[User:Vantar/Location Status 1|here]] <br />
*The building status as a entry under the current status header is [[User:Vantar/Location Status 2|here]]<br />
*A combination previous two of the system is [[User:Vantar/Location Status 3|here]] <br />
The current options are the current system, one of the above plans, or something else. In all cases the question of what locations should have a danger report and what ones should not. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 22:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:It's not broken, stop trying to fix it. All of those systems are much worse than the current one both for usability, and the fact that they make the template less useful as it's less visible.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Ok then what locations get building status templates and what ones don't? You are complaining about what the guide currently says so if you think the system is not broken,what is your complaint? Not everyone likes the current system so this is a good time to work out any changes. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 05:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::No, it's something you ''added'' to the guide because you disagree with the current system. The current system has always been every page that has a building gets the template, now they usually aren't added until someone starts using the page but, the status quo is a danger report for every building.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::It is something I added because [[UDWiki_talk:Location_Style_Guide#Update|people said they wanted location pages contained on one page, simple to edit, and to be of uniform style ]].Most of the time there is no reason for the building status templates to require the editing of more then one page and I don't understand what part of having the template on one page you are saying would be more difficult to edit. Can you elaborate on what part of updating a templated building status such as this [[User:Vantar/Location Status 1|one]] is so difficult?- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 07:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::You're kidding right? If you can't see why it being on it's own page makes it easier to update I can't help you see it, that's your own failing. Look at the code, think if you didn't know anything about tables/templates, then think which would be easier, editing a page with one table or a page with 10 that are all mushed together, then think how much more useful it would be if the link to update also gave you easy to read information that tells you exactly how to update it. You're assuming everyone is at your level of editing.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::And your link provided has nothing to do with your point here unless you've suddenly started talking about the horrible merged pages system that led to that discussion. No where in that discussion was anything that I see that supports the addition and one thing that specifically says something like that is a bad idea, amusingly written by myself.<br />
:::::{{Quote|karek|I, for one, loathe the idea of making differentiating in the style by the type of block, that and the block itself should always have it's own page. Standards matter, both in browsing the wiki and creating the pages and having differing standards would just serve to make things harder to find.}}<br />
:::::What that means is that the pages should all be the same, in both build and things on them, that includes the Danger Report templates being on every building page. That's a standard, and something that has been done and should have been done as, as soon as the page loads, you get the information you came, most of the time, for in five seconds in an easy to view, visible, easy to interpet Danger Report that provides the information(the image) and, usually, a quick summary of the situation(the user written text on the right). --<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::Danger reports for all pages? thousands of pages under "User:DangerReport/" most of which won't ever get updated? --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 16:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm not saying go and make them, I'm saying don't say not to make them.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I see your point about the template complexity but there is a simple solution to it. The [[UDWiki:Location Block Style Guide|Location Block Style Guide]] completely explains everything about how to use locations blocks. Why not make the update link go to some type of building status guide that can walk a new user through updating the building status page. As for you saying "Don't not make it", in this case it is like saying "make it". The location style guide describes what the locations should ideally be so it needs to be as black and white as possible so spelling out what locations get location blocks is a must here. The status of any given mall, necrotech or hospital is likely to be the type of information a player needs to have readily available. I am not conficed that buildstatus are a good for most all locations since, the same is not true about junkyards, factories, cinemas and at least 11 other building types. They aren't updated regularly and their safety is harder to gauge, the average safehouse with a handful of survivors will fall to 5 to 10 zombies, yet a building is safe until there 16 zeds out side. The building status system is not designed to be appiled across all of Malton so rather then create a second ranking system for non critical locations why not just use the current status header?- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 02:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::No, the average safe house will not fall to 5-10 zombies unless there's less than a 1:1 ratio of zombies:survivors and no 1-2 survivors have syringes to revive. It's numerically impossible unless they all run and no one revives/empties/barricades. Also I'd say Factories are important buildings considering how certain important resources have higher than mall find rates there. And no, the LSG is meant to be a ''Guide'' not a Do and Do Not list, all it needs to have are the absolute essentials and maybe a mention or two about good editing practice, it's not something that is meant to define what is and isn't allowable editing as that would mean it ceases to be a guide and starts to be a policy, one that we can't enforce and having serves no purpose but to justify undoing possibly useful additions to pages.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I don't know what safehouse you have been in but the avearge non-resourse building has 2-3 people in it on any given night, so yes that does mean the zombies:survivors ratio is less then 1:1. Also you are right the location style guide is not a policy, it is a framework designed in a away a to serve as a resourse to someone wanting to work on a location page. It descripes the prescidents that have been established for location pages, it describes the minimum of what locations pages should have, the only things it says not to do are things that the community have already said they they don't want, such as merged location pages. This doesn't prevent anyone from making formating changes or other imporvements, it stops the removal of useful imformation from a page, but the removal of useful imformation is not an improvement so I don't see the issue there.- [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 10:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::The problem is you are making the article actively oppose the current precedent for how this has been done.--<small>[[User:Karek|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::I agree in this with Karek. if article should say something about danger reports (yes, it should) it better be something like "If there is a danger report for this location - plug it in the beginning. Danger reports are not obligatory" --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 14:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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====St. vs St====<br />
Currently we are advised to change places with "St" in them to "St.". [[#Update|As Gnome pointed out a couple of months ago]], the in game formatting is "St" with no period. Place names in the Wiki should match places in game. These lines in the style guide need to be reversed: under [[UDWiki:Location_Style_Guide#Page_Names|Page Names]] ''Any pages beginning with "St" (eg. St Luke's Cathedral) should be named as "St." (e.g. St. Luke's Cathedral)'' and under [[UDWiki:Location_Style_Guide#Redirects|Redirects]] ''"St" locations (e.g. St Swithun's Church redirects to St. Swithun's Church)''. [http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-14-08_1800hrs_PUBLIC/IN_51-83__8b9-ae4-45f.html Example]. --{{User:Frozen_Flame/sig}} 19:55, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:That change is very doable, but before I make the change it there any reason why we currently have it the other why around or was this just like this because it always has been? - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 20:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:St. is grammatically correct though, and seeing as all the St pages are already created as St., we are making heaps of work for nothing. Just make sure all the redirects are there, and it won't make a bit of difference <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 03:52 15 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
::St that redirects to St. is absolutely right and functional, i don't see a problem. on a side note, there should also be Dept redirect to Department for PDs... --[[User:Duke Garland|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]] [[LCD|<nowiki>[</nowiki>]][[User talk:Duke Garland|talk]][[Signature Race|<nowiki>]</nowiki>]] 09:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't have massive amounts of free time, but I wouldn't mind working on switching it myself. Besides, if I don't get to all of it, then someone else will eventually, that's the nice thing about a wiki. :) My point in changing is that we should keep as true to the game as possible in the wiki, even when there's only a period in question. --{{User:Frozen_Flame/sig}} 04:08, 16 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Frozen Flame, do not move all those pages to St instead of St. unless you can demonstrate a clear consensus in doing it. Having the redirect is enough, the exact in-game description links directly to the page that the person is looking for. There is no need to change this <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|talk]] • [[UDWiki:Image Categorisation|i]]</sup> 12:32 16 February 2008 (BST)</small><br />
:::::When did I say I was going to do it now? My comment was merely in response to the time issue. I know perfectly well that anything related to locations shouldn't be changed until we are finished here. Your reprimand is both unnecessary and unwarranted. There is no need to introduce drama into such a simple change. --{{User:Frozen_Flame/sig}} 23:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::: I am about to have a block of spare time that I can squander with the page moves so if time is the only issue I can take care of that. The Dept to Department redirect is already called for for [[UDWiki:Location_Style_Guide#Redirects|here]] some one just has to make them. - [[User:Vantar|Vantar]] 04:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Active? ==<br />
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I'm doing research for Project CP, and it'd be lovely if you could tell me wether you are still active or not. :)<br />
:{{User:Rorybob/Sig}}10:25, 31 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Individual vs. Merged pages? ==<br />
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Just so I'm clear, as there seems to be...well, a vast array of conflicting information. Was it decided on that every block in Malton should have its own location page? Are merged pages no longer to be used? If such is the case, is [[Template:Locationblockmerge]] only left standing for the sake of not breaking existing pages? The LSG itself wasn't entirely clear (I just added a tiny comment to it stating that locations should not be merged, something I am now unsure of) and I see a lot of conflicting pages. --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 21:11, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I was conflicted too. And I agree the LSG is not very clear.--[[User:Lithedarkangel|Lithedarkangel]] 21:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, all location blocks on individual pages, and the locationblockmerge template should only be used on already grouped pages, until they're degrouped (looking at it's whatlinkshere link will be a good way of finding how many are left, btw) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 22:46 22 December 2008 (BST)</small><br />
::Thanks much Boxy, I'll get working on un-merging things then. --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 01:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Standardizing "Current Status"? ==<br />
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I've seen a slew of different methods of posting current statuses on location pages. There are slim guidelines on what should go there and in what form, not to mention no particular point at which statuses should be archived. Would it be worth the time for me to come up with a format or at least some better guidelines for submitting status reports? I could even make a template, something like [[Template:CRIMENews|this]] but with variables rather than editing the template itself, although a lot of template calls put strain on the server if I remember correctly... Well, in any case, what do people think on the topic? --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 04:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Some of them don't really need the section because of the DangerReport Template. But some other types of building will do fine with a standard current status. Maybe something like the locationblock?--<span>[[User:Lithedarkangel|<span style="color: Red ">Li</span>]][[User_Talk:Lithedarkangel|<span style="color: Black">thedark</span>]][[Location Nuts|<span style="color: Black">angel</span>]][[User:Lithedarkangel/Works|<span style="color: Red"><small>Meth!</small></span>]]</span> 04:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::"Like the locationblock" as in a general-use template with variables you can fill out specific to whatever page you're editing? If that's what you mean, then yeah, that's one idea I had in mind. I'll work on some ideas and see what people think; I'm still unsure whether people would like there to be standardization or if they'd prefer to leave it as a common sense thing. It'd be considerable effort to go and reformat/add templates to nearly every location page in Malton, after all. --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 06:29, 23 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Current status is one of those things that should be as applicable, as for templates. Probably not the best idea, I know it's been done in a workable manner before but, the less templates on those pages the better, at least when it's something that being made into a template doesn't have a positive effect on editing. It would essentially be pulling the most resource intensive part of the page into a template which may possibly cause the inclusion limit to be hit if they aren't archived consistently enough.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Well, it wouldn't be too hard to format a template so that it forces people to archive things quickly, I think. I had an idea for a template that only leaves a certain amount of space for entry of comments while the rest of the info would all be further template-based; like, "Generator: Yes-Powered|Barricades: VSB" would be standardized using templated variables, and underneath that would be a space for things like "Claimed as HQ for Survivor Group. 04:20 21 December, 2008" which would be the only thing needed to be archived (as it seems sort of pointless to archive things like generator and barricade status which are constantly changing, but more sensible to archive the little news announcements that people want to make). But I might be getting beside the point here; what did you mean by "Current status is one of those things that should be as applicable"? Just leave it how it is and let people format it however they feel it should be? --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 21:23, 23 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::We already have one such template on the page actually. And I meant that it should be on pages as they need it and not specifically prohibited from addition to any page.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:There are a lot of different methods of doing the current status reports, because the situation is different for all the locations pages. Suburb and Mall news sections are often updated regularly, as are many of the more important, or contested, [[TRP]]'s. Then there are pages that are rarely updated, and some almost never (because nothing much changes). The community seems to be of the view that almost every location block needs a User:DangerReport template, so I only see the news sections of most pages becoming even less used in the future <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 06:24 26 December 2008 (BST)</small><br />
::Well that's cool too; all I really want is a clear, concise, easily-readable way to give people up-to-date info about specific locations. So maybe that's not such a bad idea if it's quicker than updating the Current Status all the time... Although it is nice to have more detail than simply "lots of zombies", "some zombies" or "no zombies". --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 07:32, 26 December 2008 (UTC)</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:South_West_Alliance&diff=1346382Talk:South West Alliance2008-12-26T07:26:57Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: "Expanding to encompass the entire SW area (or at least just a bit more of it)?"</p>
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===Expanding to encompass the entire SW area (or at least just a bit more of it)?===<br />
Have you considered it? Does it seem like too much to be responsible for, or are you just lacking in participants for that many suburbs? I (and, effectively, [[CrimethInc.]]) have set up in Wykewood, which is apparently outside your area of operations, but I'd be willing to help (despite your apparent membership of police and rent-a-cops, yeesh) if Wykewood isn't too far north for ya. --{{User:AClashInRedSnow/sig}} 07:26, 26 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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We are awesome. {{User:V2Blast/sig}} 01:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I agree. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Damn straight --[[User:Elbowhead|Elbowhead]] 12:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:We need an awesome wiki page to go with our awesomeness...but yeah, so true. --[[User:Chelsea Dagger|Chelsea Dagger]] 16:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Even if I didn't think you guys were awesome, you'd still be awesome. --[[User:Uncle Bill|a random mall cop]] 07:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Nay! We are gods! Gods among mortals, let our heavenly wrath shine!--[[User:Elbowhead|Elbowhead]] 07:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Indeed we are. --{{User:Blobdude/Sig}} 06:35, 22 December 2007 (UTC)<br />
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==The Great Radio Group Massacre==<br />
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===[[10 Minutes From Hell]] : Survivor Group===<br />
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===[[82nd Airborne Division]] : Pro-Survivor===<br />
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[[User:Jonny Happening|Jonny Happening]] 03:30, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 01:18, 3 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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===[[Anti-zombie squad|Anti-Zombie Squad]] : Pro-Survivor===<br />
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===[[BAD-MU]] : Anti-zombie and Pro-survivor Group===<br />
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===[[Brotherhood of the Reckoning]] : PKer Group===<br />
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===[[Browncoats]] : Pk'er Group=== <br />
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===[[The Burchell Arms Regulars|Burchell Arms Regulars]] : Survivor Group=== <br />
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===[[DHPD|Dunell Hills Police Department]] : Pro Survivor===<br />
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{{:DHPD/Recruit}} [[User:Jim_Extreme|Jim Extreme]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jim_Extreme|Talk]] | [[DHPD|DHPD]]</sup> 08:07, 8 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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===[[Extinction]] : Pro Zombie===<br />
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=== [[The Fortress]] : Survivor Group===<br />
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===[[Malton College of Medicine]]===<br />
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<span style="color: Maroon">''Hidden within the walls of Malton exists a very special bog known only to the locals as "The Moors". The Moors have always personified the filth and inhumanity of Maltonian society. It percolates and festers and from this fetid soup, souls, long thought to be lost, have been spit up from the depths. Free from the murkiness, they now roam the streets.''</span><br />
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Rot From The Moors never stops recruiting zombies! We have an open door policy where any zombie can become a member of our Horde. If interested in joining, visit us at [http://z15.invisionfree.com/Rot_from_the_Moors/index.php?act=idx <span style="color: #f6fd7f">our forum</span>] and tell us about your intentions. It does not matter to us what level your zombie is when you join. If you have few skills, we'll help you level up. If you have all of your skills, we'll show you a good time and help you enjoy your maxed our character. <br />
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Recruitment pages are listed below by in order by type. To include your recruitment advert in this list, put the following on the advert "template" page: '''<nowiki><noinclude>[[category:Recruitment|type]]</noinclude></nowiki>'''</div>AClashInRedSnowhttps://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=CrimethInc._Resurrectionist_Insurrectionist_Malcontents_Enclave/Recruit&diff=1346373CrimethInc. Resurrectionist Insurrectionist Malcontents Enclave/Recruit2008-12-26T07:15:22Z<p>AClashInRedSnow: </p>
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