https://wiki.urbandead.com/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Rib15&feedformat=atomThe Urban Dead Wiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T11:33:21ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.37.1https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat_Promotions&diff=2421190UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat Promotions2022-12-02T23:47:28Z<p>Rib15: /* Stelar */</p>
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<div>{{BPIntro}}<br />
=Election Space=<br />
So it turns out we missed an entire election in July. That means the seats that have been long-occupied by myself and AHLG are up for a vote. '''The vote will end 2 weeks from this timestamp'''. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 22:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Is it bad that I noticed this at the time, half edited a notice... then just decided to delete the message and go about my day? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:09, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I can't believe we cheated the community out of an extra 6 months of doing no crat responsibilities. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 23:47, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Eligible Candidates==<br />
===A Helpful Little Gnome===<br />
{{bid|A Helpful Little Gnome|RE}}<br />
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#You have been gnomed --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 23:45, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#It's morbin time {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 23:47, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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===DanceDanceRevolution===<br />
{{bid|DanceDanceRevolution|RE}}<br />
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#He remembered that the crat election is due, which is more than I can say of most sys-ops these days. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 23:11, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
# punish the deserving! [[User:Hajen|hajen]] ([[User talk:Hajen|talk]]) 23:16, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
# what's the square root of 46? DDfuckinR. <sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 01:58, 2 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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===Stelar===<br />
{{bid|Stelar|RE}}<br />
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#[[User:DoXBr|DoXBr]] ([[User talk:DoXBr|talk]]) 22:57, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
# is this thing on? [[User:Hajen|hajen]] ([[User talk:Hajen|talk]]) 23:13, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] [[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] ([[User talk:Hibernaculum|talk]]) 23:20, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#{{User:Dark Blue Helmet/Sig}} 23:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:EasyDinner|EasyDinner]] ([[User talk:EasyDinner|talk]]) 23:33, 1 December 2022 (UTC) I for one welcome our emu overlords<br />
# [[User:Hate Crime|Hate Crime 🎭]] ([[User talk:Hate Crime|talk]]) 23:40, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:Richardskull16|Richardskull16]] ([[User talk:Richardskull16|talk]]) 00:20, 2 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] ([[User talk:Rib15|talk]]) 23:47, 2 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
# Voting is important [[User:Brom Armostrong|Brom Armostrong]] ([[User talk:Brom Armostrong|talk]]) 20:23, 2 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Withdrawn/Ineligible Candidates==<br />
===Rosslessness===<br />
{{bid|Rosslessness|RE}}<br />
As of the start of the election, Ross is not eligible due to his activity. This may change if he makes an edit. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 22:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Would it though? Really? [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup> 22:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
# Fuck eligibility. <sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 00:29, 2 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Results==<br />
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==Archived Bureaucrat Promotions==<br />
''For earlier bureaucrat promotions, see the following:''<br />
*[[:Category:{{CURRENTYEAR}}_Bureaucrat_Promotion_Archives|This year's bureaucrat promotions]]<br />
*[[:Category:{{LASTYEAR}}_Bureaucrat_Promotion_Archives|Last year's bureaucrat promotions]]<br />
*[[A/SA|Sysop Archives]] for other related activities<br />
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{{CratPromoArchive}}</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat_Promotions&diff=2421189UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat Promotions2022-12-02T23:47:00Z<p>Rib15: /* Stelar */</p>
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<div>{{BPIntro}}<br />
=Election Space=<br />
So it turns out we missed an entire election in July. That means the seats that have been long-occupied by myself and AHLG are up for a vote. '''The vote will end 2 weeks from this timestamp'''. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 22:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Is it bad that I noticed this at the time, half edited a notice... then just decided to delete the message and go about my day? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:09, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
::I can't believe we cheated the community out of an extra 6 months of doing no crat responsibilities. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 23:47, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Eligible Candidates==<br />
===A Helpful Little Gnome===<br />
{{bid|A Helpful Little Gnome|RE}}<br />
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#You have been gnomed --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 23:45, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#It's morbin time {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 23:47, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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===DanceDanceRevolution===<br />
{{bid|DanceDanceRevolution|RE}}<br />
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#He remembered that the crat election is due, which is more than I can say of most sys-ops these days. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 23:11, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
# punish the deserving! [[User:Hajen|hajen]] ([[User talk:Hajen|talk]]) 23:16, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
# what's the square root of 46? DDfuckinR. <sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 01:58, 2 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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===Stelar===<br />
{{bid|Stelar|RE}}<br />
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#[[User:DoXBr|DoXBr]] ([[User talk:DoXBr|talk]]) 22:57, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
# is this thing on? [[User:Hajen|hajen]] ([[User talk:Hajen|talk]]) 23:13, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] [[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] ([[User talk:Hibernaculum|talk]]) 23:20, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#{{User:Dark Blue Helmet/Sig}} 23:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:EasyDinner|EasyDinner]] ([[User talk:EasyDinner|talk]]) 23:33, 1 December 2022 (UTC) I for one welcome our emu overlords<br />
# [[User:Hate Crime|Hate Crime 🎭]] ([[User talk:Hate Crime|talk]]) 23:40, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
#[[User:Richardskull16|Richardskull16]] ([[User talk:Richardskull16|talk]]) 00:20, 2 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] ([[User talk:Rib15|talk]]) 23:47, 2 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
# Voting is important [[User:Brom Armostrong|Brom Armostrong]] ([[User talk:Brom Armostrong|talk]]) 20:23, 2 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Withdrawn/Ineligible Candidates==<br />
===Rosslessness===<br />
{{bid|Rosslessness|RE}}<br />
As of the start of the election, Ross is not eligible due to his activity. This may change if he makes an edit. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 22:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
:Would it though? Really? [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup> 22:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
# Fuck eligibility. <sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 00:29, 2 December 2022 (UTC)<br />
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==Results==<br />
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<br />
==Archived Bureaucrat Promotions==<br />
''For earlier bureaucrat promotions, see the following:''<br />
*[[:Category:{{CURRENTYEAR}}_Bureaucrat_Promotion_Archives|This year's bureaucrat promotions]]<br />
*[[:Category:{{LASTYEAR}}_Bureaucrat_Promotion_Archives|Last year's bureaucrat promotions]]<br />
*[[A/SA|Sysop Archives]] for other related activities<br />
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{{CratPromoArchive}}</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:DangerReport/The_Jeffrey_Building&diff=2264502User:DangerReport/The Jeffrey Building2015-10-19T03:52:14Z<p>Rib15: </p>
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[[Category:NecroTech Building Danger Levels|Jeffrey Building]]<br />
[[Category:Millen Hills Danger Levels|Jeffrey Building]]<br />
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{{UpdateDR|Necrotech}}<br />
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[[Category:NecroTech Building Danger Levels|Jeffrey Building]]<br />
[[Category:Millen Hills Danger Levels|Jeffrey Building]]<br />
</noinclude></div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Spicer_Hills&diff=2252364Spicer Hills2015-08-17T04:14:01Z<p>Rib15: /* August */</p>
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<div>{{Suburb | <br />
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snX= 3| <br />
snY= 10|<br />
suburb_number = 93|<br />
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Suburb_MiniMap = |<br />
mast_coordinates = The Waters Building |<br />
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NW_suburb= Ruddlebank |<br />
N_suburb= Lockettside |<br />
NE_suburb= Dartside |<br />
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W_suburb = Old Arkham |<br />
E_suburb = Williamsville |<br />
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SW_suburb= Border |<br />
S_suburb = Border |<br />
SE_suburb = Border |<br />
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suburb_groups = <br />
{{Spicer Hills Groups}}<br />
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Police = 4 |<br />
Fire = 3 |<br />
Hospitals = 2 |<br />
NTs = 1 |<br />
Malls = none |<br />
Other = [[St. Mark's Cathedral]], Schools 1, Churches 2, Auto Repair 4, Railway Stations 1 <br />
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{{NPOV}}<br />
'''Spicer Hills''' (known in [[zamgrh]] as '''Zharh H!hhz''') is a [[suburb]] of [[Malton]], located in the south-west of the city. The local [[radio]] frequency is 27.20 MHz, and locals are asked to tune in for the latest news.<br />
{{AltRadioFreq|suburb=Spicer Hills|stationlist=<b>Freq: 26.15: Radio Spicer Hills</b><br/>}}<br />
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==Resource Buildings==<br />
{{TRP List<br />
|NTs=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/The Brockliss Building (Spicer Hills)|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|Hospitals=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/St. Helena's Hospital (Spicer Hills)|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Tarasius General Hospital (Spicer Hills)|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|PDs=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Bowring Way Police Department|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Hopping Road Police Department|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Stockman Walk Police Department|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Veresmith Street Police Department|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|Factories=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Factory 24,93|template=TRP Status Factory}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Factory 24,98|template=TRP Status Factory}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Factory 29,97|template=TRP Status Factory}}<br />
|ARSs=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Haydon Auto Repair|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/House Auto Repair|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Pring Auto Repair|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Rosenhagen Auto Repair|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|Malls=<br />
*None<br />
|Boards=<br />
*[[Garrett Lane]] (26,96)<br />
*[[Rudd Place]] (22,93)<br />
|RPs=<br />
*[[Cemetery 26,91|A cemetery]] (26,91)<br />
*[[Coat Avenue]] (21,96)<br />
*[[Dyer Park]] (22,92)<br />
*[[Mais Park]] (20,94)<br />
}}<br />
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=={{PAGENAME}} Information Resources==<br />
[[Image:AquaInfo.jpg|left|45px]]The [[Building Information Center/{{PAGENAME}}|{{PAGENAME}} Building Information Center]] contains status reports and updates on key buildings in the suburb.<br />
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View zombie activity and locations in {{PAGENAME}} from [[EMRP:_{{PAGENAME}}|External Military Reports]], [[Z.A.L.P./Scent Maps|Scentoral scan data charts]] and [[NecroWatch/S_to_Z#Spicer Hills|NecroWatch]]. <!-- WATCH OUT: reference to left can't contain PAGENAME! --><br />
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==Recent News==<br />
{{BurbNewsIntro}}<br />
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===August===<br />
====August 14<sup>th</sup>====<br />
Plenty of lit resource buildings, few zombies. Move in and have fun." [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] ([[User talk:Rib15|talk]])<br />
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==Survivor specific information==<br />
====Revive Points====<br />
[[Mais Park]], [[Dyer Park]] and [[Coat Avenue]] are official Revive Points. The [[Cemetery_26%2C91 | cemetery]] (26,91) is a revive point under the [[Sacred Ground Policy]].<br />
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====Four Corners====<br />
The Northwest corner of Spicer Hills is included in [[Four Corners (Southwest) | the Four Corners]].<br />
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==Barricade Plan==<br />
For more information, see [[Spicer Hills Barricade Plan]].<br />
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{{Spicer Hills Barricade Plan}}<br />
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==Suburb Map==<br />
{{EXP_Suburbblock|suburb=Spicer Hills|<br />
NW_Suburb=[[Ruddlebank#Suburb_Map|NW]]|<br />
N_Suburb=[[Lockettside#Suburb_Map|N]]|<br />
NE_Suburb=[[Dartside#Suburb_Map|NE]]|<br />
W_Suburb=[[Old_Arkham#Suburb_Map|W]]|<br />
E_Suburb=[[Williamsville#Suburb_Map|E]]|<br />
SW_Suburb=SW|<br />
S_Suburb=S|<br />
SE_Suburb=SE|<br />
location1=[[the Vallis Motel]]|location1_color=Hotel|<br />
location2=[[Helliar Cinema]]|location2_color=Cinema|<br />
location3=[[Doran Walk]]|location3_color=Street|<br />
location4=[[Tuson Plaza]]|location4_color=Street|<br />
location5=[[the Paul Building]]|location5_color=Building|<br />
location6=[[the Brockliss Building (Spicer Hills)|the Brockliss Building]]|location6_color=NecroTech|<br />
location7=[[St. Onuphrius's Church (Spicer Hills)|St. Onuphrius's Church]]|location7_color=Church|<br />
location8=[[Martindale Plaza]]|location8_color=Street|<br />
location9=[[the Musgrove Arms]]|location9_color=Arms|<br />
location10=[[Club Barnard]]|location10_color=Club|<br />
location11=[[the MacVicar Arms]]|location11_color=Arms|<br />
location12=[[Tarasius General Hospital (Spicer Hills)|Tarasius General Hospital]]|location12_color=Hospital|<br />
location13=[[the Blacker Building]]|location13_color=Building|<br />
location14=[[Warehouse 23,91|a warehouse]]|location14_color=Warehouse|<br />
location15=[[Rollings Road]]|location15_color=Street|<br />
location16=[[the Headington Building]]|location16_color=Building|<br />
location17=[[Cemetery 26,91|a cemetery]]<BR> -RP-|location17_color=Cemetery|<br />
location18=[[Sanderson Park]]|location18_color=Park|<br />
location19=[[Keefe Drive]]|location19_color=Street|<br />
location20=[[Woodroffe Crescent (Spicer Hills)|Woodroffe Crescent]]|location20_color=Street|<br />
location21=[[Junkyard 20,92|a junkyard]]|location21_color=Junkyard|<br />
location22=[[Leicester Street]]|location22_color=Street|<br />
location23=[[Dyer Park]]<BR> -RP-|location23_color=Park|<br />
location24=[[Carpark 23,92|a carpark]]|location24_color=Carpark|<br />
location25=[[Pring Auto Repair]]|location25_color=Auto Repair|<br />
location26=[[Munckton Crescent]]|location26_color=Street|<br />
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location28=[[Junkyard 27,92|a junkyard]]|location28_color=Junkyard|<br />
location29=[[Rennell Grove Railway Station]]|location29_color=Railway Station|<br />
location30=[[Russe Bank]]|location30_color=Bank|<br />
location31=[[the Fortt Museum]]|location31_color=Museum|<br />
location32=[[Junkyard 21,93|a junkyard]]|location32_color=Junkyard|<br />
location33=[[Rudd Place]]|location33_color=Street|<br />
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location36=[[Howse Row]]|location36_color=Street|<br />
location37=[[Dinan Walk]]|location37_color=Street|<br />
location38=[[Heskin Square]]|location38_color=Street|<br />
location39=[[the Sillence Museum]]|location39_color=Museum|<br />
location40=[[Wasteland 29,93|wasteland]]|location40_color=Wasteland|<br />
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location42=[[Barens Road Fire Station]]|location42_color=Fire Station|<br />
location43=[[Cui Towers]]|location43_color=Tower|<br />
location44=[[Club Peerless]]|location44_color=Club|<br />
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location46=[[Rock Place]]|location46_color=Street|<br />
location47=[[Matthewson Library]]|location47_color=Library|<br />
location48=[[Sureties Walk]]|location48_color=Street|<br />
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location50=[[Veresmith Street Police Department]]|location50_color=Police Dept|<br />
location51=[[Hopping Road Police Department]]|location51_color=Police Dept|<br />
location52=[[Grizel Library]]|location52_color=Library|<br />
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location54=[[the Gyllet Building]]|location54_color=Building|<br />
location55=[[the Piggott Building]]|location55_color=Building|<br />
location56=[[the Waters Building]]|location56_color=Building|<br />
location57=[[the Orman Monument]]|location57_color=Monument|<br />
location58=[[the Street Building]]|location58_color=Building|<br />
location59=[[Swyer Crescent]]|location59_color=Street|<br />
location60=[[Craze Towers]]|location60_color=Tower|<br />
location61=[[Wetton Library]]|location61_color=Library|<br />
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location63=[[St. Swithun's Church (Spicer Hills)|St. Swithun's Church]]|location63_color=Church|<br />
location64=[[Wheelan Grove]]|location64_color=Street|<br />
location65=[[Haydon Auto Repair]]|location65_color=Auto Repair|<br />
location66=[[the Wray Building]]|location66_color=Building|<br />
location67=[[Garrett Lane]]|location67_color=Street|<br />
location68=[[Wakerman Cinema]]|location68_color=Cinema|<br />
location69=[[Valentine Lane]]|location69_color=Street|<br />
location70=[[Learmond Walk Fire Station]]|location70_color=Fire Station|<br />
location71=[[Carpark 20,97|a carpark]]|location71_color=Carpark|<br />
location72=[[Doone Towers]]|location72_color=Tower|<br />
location73=[[Carpark 22,97|a carpark]]|location73_color=Carpark|<br />
location74=[[Wasteland 23,97|wasteland]]|location74_color=Wasteland|<br />
location75=[[Dudman Row Fire Station]]|location75_color=Fire Station|<br />
location76=[[Williamson Place]]|location76_color=Street|<br />
location77=[[Locket Drive]]|location77_color=Street|<br />
location78=[[the Bennett Building (Spicer Hills)|the Bennett Building]]|location78_color=Building|<br />
location79=[[Rosenhagen Auto Repair]]|location79_color=Auto Repair|<br />
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location81=[[Bowring Way Police Department]]|location81_color=Police Dept|<br />
location82=[[the Mallett Museum]]|location82_color=Museum|<br />
location83=[[Warehouse 22,98|a warehouse]]|location83_color=Warehouse|<br />
location84=[[Sealy Road]]|location84_color=Street|<br />
location85=[[Factory 24,98|a factory]]|location85_color=Factory|<br />
location86=[[Maturin Avenue]]|location86_color=Street|<br />
location87=[[Ensor Cinema]]|location87_color=Cinema|<br />
location88=[[St. Mark's Cathedral]]|location88_color=Church|<br />
location89=[[St. Mark's Cathedral]]|location89_color=Church|<br />
location90=[[Ennitt Bank]]|location90_color=Bank|<br />
location91=[[St. Helena's Hospital (Spicer Hills)|St. Helena's Hospital]]|location91_color=Hospital|<br />
location92=[[House Auto Repair]]|location92_color=Auto Repair|<br />
location93=[[Club Quier]]|location93_color=Club|<br />
location94=[[Moores Lane]]|location94_color=Street|<br />
location95=[[Ralfe Plaza]]|location95_color=Street|<br />
location96=[[Author Row (Spicer Hills)|Author Row]]|location96_color=Street|<br />
location97=[[Warehouse 26,99|a warehouse]]|location97_color=Warehouse|<br />
location98=[[St. Mark's Cathedral]]|location98_color=Church|<br />
location99=[[St. Mark's Cathedral]]|location99_color=Church|<br />
location100=[[Wasteland 29,99|wasteland]]|location100_color=Wasteland}}</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Spicer_Hills&diff=2252363Spicer Hills2015-08-17T04:12:36Z<p>Rib15: /* August */</p>
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snX= 3| <br />
snY= 10|<br />
suburb_number = 93|<br />
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Suburb_MiniMap = |<br />
mast_coordinates = The Waters Building |<br />
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NW_suburb= Ruddlebank |<br />
N_suburb= Lockettside |<br />
NE_suburb= Dartside |<br />
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W_suburb = Old Arkham |<br />
E_suburb = Williamsville |<br />
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SW_suburb= Border |<br />
S_suburb = Border |<br />
SE_suburb = Border |<br />
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suburb_groups = <br />
{{Spicer Hills Groups}}<br />
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Police = 4 |<br />
Fire = 3 |<br />
Hospitals = 2 |<br />
NTs = 1 |<br />
Malls = none |<br />
Other = [[St. Mark's Cathedral]], Schools 1, Churches 2, Auto Repair 4, Railway Stations 1 <br />
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}}<br />
{{NPOV}}<br />
'''Spicer Hills''' (known in [[zamgrh]] as '''Zharh H!hhz''') is a [[suburb]] of [[Malton]], located in the south-west of the city. The local [[radio]] frequency is 27.20 MHz, and locals are asked to tune in for the latest news.<br />
{{AltRadioFreq|suburb=Spicer Hills|stationlist=<b>Freq: 26.15: Radio Spicer Hills</b><br/>}}<br />
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==Resource Buildings==<br />
{{TRP List<br />
|NTs=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/The Brockliss Building (Spicer Hills)|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|Hospitals=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/St. Helena's Hospital (Spicer Hills)|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Tarasius General Hospital (Spicer Hills)|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|PDs=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Bowring Way Police Department|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Hopping Road Police Department|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Stockman Walk Police Department|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Veresmith Street Police Department|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|Factories=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Factory 24,93|template=TRP Status Factory}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Factory 24,98|template=TRP Status Factory}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Factory 29,97|template=TRP Status Factory}}<br />
|ARSs=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Haydon Auto Repair|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/House Auto Repair|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Pring Auto Repair|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Rosenhagen Auto Repair|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|Malls=<br />
*None<br />
|Boards=<br />
*[[Garrett Lane]] (26,96)<br />
*[[Rudd Place]] (22,93)<br />
|RPs=<br />
*[[Cemetery 26,91|A cemetery]] (26,91)<br />
*[[Coat Avenue]] (21,96)<br />
*[[Dyer Park]] (22,92)<br />
*[[Mais Park]] (20,94)<br />
}}<br />
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=={{PAGENAME}} Information Resources==<br />
[[Image:AquaInfo.jpg|left|45px]]The [[Building Information Center/{{PAGENAME}}|{{PAGENAME}} Building Information Center]] contains status reports and updates on key buildings in the suburb.<br />
<br />
View zombie activity and locations in {{PAGENAME}} from [[EMRP:_{{PAGENAME}}|External Military Reports]], [[Z.A.L.P./Scent Maps|Scentoral scan data charts]] and [[NecroWatch/S_to_Z#Spicer Hills|NecroWatch]]. <!-- WATCH OUT: reference to left can't contain PAGENAME! --><br />
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==Recent News==<br />
{{BurbNewsIntro}}<br />
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===August===<br />
====August 1<sup>th</sup>====<br />
Plenty of lit resource buildings, few zombies. Move in and have fun." -- [[User:Jen|'''Jen''']]<sup><span style="font-size:7pt;"> [[User_talk:Jen|<span style="color:darkblue">T</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[SFHNAS|<span style="color:darkred">SFHNAS</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User:Jen/JL|<span style="color:darkgreen">PK</span>]]</span></sup> 13:18, 12 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Survivor specific information==<br />
====Revive Points====<br />
[[Mais Park]], [[Dyer Park]] and [[Coat Avenue]] are official Revive Points. The [[Cemetery_26%2C91 | cemetery]] (26,91) is a revive point under the [[Sacred Ground Policy]].<br />
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====Four Corners====<br />
The Northwest corner of Spicer Hills is included in [[Four Corners (Southwest) | the Four Corners]].<br />
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==Barricade Plan==<br />
For more information, see [[Spicer Hills Barricade Plan]].<br />
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{{Spicer Hills Barricade Plan}}<br />
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==Suburb Map==<br />
{{EXP_Suburbblock|suburb=Spicer Hills|<br />
NW_Suburb=[[Ruddlebank#Suburb_Map|NW]]|<br />
N_Suburb=[[Lockettside#Suburb_Map|N]]|<br />
NE_Suburb=[[Dartside#Suburb_Map|NE]]|<br />
W_Suburb=[[Old_Arkham#Suburb_Map|W]]|<br />
E_Suburb=[[Williamsville#Suburb_Map|E]]|<br />
SW_Suburb=SW|<br />
S_Suburb=S|<br />
SE_Suburb=SE|<br />
location1=[[the Vallis Motel]]|location1_color=Hotel|<br />
location2=[[Helliar Cinema]]|location2_color=Cinema|<br />
location3=[[Doran Walk]]|location3_color=Street|<br />
location4=[[Tuson Plaza]]|location4_color=Street|<br />
location5=[[the Paul Building]]|location5_color=Building|<br />
location6=[[the Brockliss Building (Spicer Hills)|the Brockliss Building]]|location6_color=NecroTech|<br />
location7=[[St. Onuphrius's Church (Spicer Hills)|St. Onuphrius's Church]]|location7_color=Church|<br />
location8=[[Martindale Plaza]]|location8_color=Street|<br />
location9=[[the Musgrove Arms]]|location9_color=Arms|<br />
location10=[[Club Barnard]]|location10_color=Club|<br />
location11=[[the MacVicar Arms]]|location11_color=Arms|<br />
location12=[[Tarasius General Hospital (Spicer Hills)|Tarasius General Hospital]]|location12_color=Hospital|<br />
location13=[[the Blacker Building]]|location13_color=Building|<br />
location14=[[Warehouse 23,91|a warehouse]]|location14_color=Warehouse|<br />
location15=[[Rollings Road]]|location15_color=Street|<br />
location16=[[the Headington Building]]|location16_color=Building|<br />
location17=[[Cemetery 26,91|a cemetery]]<BR> -RP-|location17_color=Cemetery|<br />
location18=[[Sanderson Park]]|location18_color=Park|<br />
location19=[[Keefe Drive]]|location19_color=Street|<br />
location20=[[Woodroffe Crescent (Spicer Hills)|Woodroffe Crescent]]|location20_color=Street|<br />
location21=[[Junkyard 20,92|a junkyard]]|location21_color=Junkyard|<br />
location22=[[Leicester Street]]|location22_color=Street|<br />
location23=[[Dyer Park]]<BR> -RP-|location23_color=Park|<br />
location24=[[Carpark 23,92|a carpark]]|location24_color=Carpark|<br />
location25=[[Pring Auto Repair]]|location25_color=Auto Repair|<br />
location26=[[Munckton Crescent]]|location26_color=Street|<br />
location27=[[the Padden Museum]]|location27_color=Museum|<br />
location28=[[Junkyard 27,92|a junkyard]]|location28_color=Junkyard|<br />
location29=[[Rennell Grove Railway Station]]|location29_color=Railway Station|<br />
location30=[[Russe Bank]]|location30_color=Bank|<br />
location31=[[the Fortt Museum]]|location31_color=Museum|<br />
location32=[[Junkyard 21,93|a junkyard]]|location32_color=Junkyard|<br />
location33=[[Rudd Place]]|location33_color=Street|<br />
location34=[[the Pippard Building (Spicer Hills)|the Pippard Building]]|location34_color=Building|<br />
location35=[[Factory 24,93|a factory]]|location35_color=Factory|<br />
location36=[[Howse Row]]|location36_color=Street|<br />
location37=[[Dinan Walk]]|location37_color=Street|<br />
location38=[[Heskin Square]]|location38_color=Street|<br />
location39=[[the Sillence Museum]]|location39_color=Museum|<br />
location40=[[Wasteland 29,93|wasteland]]|location40_color=Wasteland|<br />
location41=[[Mais Park]]<BR> -RP-|location41_color=Park|<br />
location42=[[Barens Road Fire Station]]|location42_color=Fire Station|<br />
location43=[[Cui Towers]]|location43_color=Tower|<br />
location44=[[Club Peerless]]|location44_color=Club|<br />
location45=[[Slocombe Plaza School]]|location45_color=School|<br />
location46=[[Rock Place]]|location46_color=Street|<br />
location47=[[Matthewson Library]]|location47_color=Library|<br />
location48=[[Sureties Walk]]|location48_color=Street|<br />
location49=[[Warehouse 28,94|a warehouse]]|location49_color=Warehouse|<br />
location50=[[Veresmith Street Police Department]]|location50_color=Police Dept|<br />
location51=[[Hopping Road Police Department]]|location51_color=Police Dept|<br />
location52=[[Grizel Library]]|location52_color=Library|<br />
location53=[[Stockman Walk Police Department]]|location53_color=Police Dept|<br />
location54=[[the Gyllet Building]]|location54_color=Building|<br />
location55=[[the Piggott Building]]|location55_color=Building|<br />
location56=[[the Waters Building]]|location56_color=Building|<br />
location57=[[the Orman Monument]]|location57_color=Monument|<br />
location58=[[the Street Building]]|location58_color=Building|<br />
location59=[[Swyer Crescent]]|location59_color=Street|<br />
location60=[[Craze Towers]]|location60_color=Tower|<br />
location61=[[Wetton Library]]|location61_color=Library|<br />
location62=[[Coat Avenue]]<BR> -RP-|location62_color=Street|<br />
location63=[[St. Swithun's Church (Spicer Hills)|St. Swithun's Church]]|location63_color=Church|<br />
location64=[[Wheelan Grove]]|location64_color=Street|<br />
location65=[[Haydon Auto Repair]]|location65_color=Auto Repair|<br />
location66=[[the Wray Building]]|location66_color=Building|<br />
location67=[[Garrett Lane]]|location67_color=Street|<br />
location68=[[Wakerman Cinema]]|location68_color=Cinema|<br />
location69=[[Valentine Lane]]|location69_color=Street|<br />
location70=[[Learmond Walk Fire Station]]|location70_color=Fire Station|<br />
location71=[[Carpark 20,97|a carpark]]|location71_color=Carpark|<br />
location72=[[Doone Towers]]|location72_color=Tower|<br />
location73=[[Carpark 22,97|a carpark]]|location73_color=Carpark|<br />
location74=[[Wasteland 23,97|wasteland]]|location74_color=Wasteland|<br />
location75=[[Dudman Row Fire Station]]|location75_color=Fire Station|<br />
location76=[[Williamson Place]]|location76_color=Street|<br />
location77=[[Locket Drive]]|location77_color=Street|<br />
location78=[[the Bennett Building (Spicer Hills)|the Bennett Building]]|location78_color=Building|<br />
location79=[[Rosenhagen Auto Repair]]|location79_color=Auto Repair|<br />
location80=[[Factory 29,97|a factory]]|location80_color=Factory|<br />
location81=[[Bowring Way Police Department]]|location81_color=Police Dept|<br />
location82=[[the Mallett Museum]]|location82_color=Museum|<br />
location83=[[Warehouse 22,98|a warehouse]]|location83_color=Warehouse|<br />
location84=[[Sealy Road]]|location84_color=Street|<br />
location85=[[Factory 24,98|a factory]]|location85_color=Factory|<br />
location86=[[Maturin Avenue]]|location86_color=Street|<br />
location87=[[Ensor Cinema]]|location87_color=Cinema|<br />
location88=[[St. Mark's Cathedral]]|location88_color=Church|<br />
location89=[[St. Mark's Cathedral]]|location89_color=Church|<br />
location90=[[Ennitt Bank]]|location90_color=Bank|<br />
location91=[[St. Helena's Hospital (Spicer Hills)|St. Helena's Hospital]]|location91_color=Hospital|<br />
location92=[[House Auto Repair]]|location92_color=Auto Repair|<br />
location93=[[Club Quier]]|location93_color=Club|<br />
location94=[[Moores Lane]]|location94_color=Street|<br />
location95=[[Ralfe Plaza]]|location95_color=Street|<br />
location96=[[Author Row (Spicer Hills)|Author Row]]|location96_color=Street|<br />
location97=[[Warehouse 26,99|a warehouse]]|location97_color=Warehouse|<br />
location98=[[St. Mark's Cathedral]]|location98_color=Church|<br />
location99=[[St. Mark's Cathedral]]|location99_color=Church|<br />
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snX= 2 | <br />
snY= 8 |<br />
suburb_number = 72 |<br />
Suburb_MiniMap = |<br />
mast_coordinates = The Skilliter Motel |<br />
NW_suburb = Crooketon |<br />
N_suburb = Mornington |<br />
NE_suburb = North Blythville |<br />
W_suburb = Nixbank |<br />
E_suburb = South Blythville |<br />
SW_suburb = Foulkes Village |<br />
S_suburb = Ruddlebank |<br />
SE_suburb = Lockettside |<br />
suburb_groups = <br />
{{Wykewood Groups}}<br />
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Police = 2 |<br />
Fire = 2 |<br />
Hospitals = 2 |<br />
NTs = none |<br />
Malls = none |<br />
Other = Schools 5, Churches 3, Auto Repair 1, Railway Stations 2|<br />
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'''Wykewood''' is a [[suburb]] of [[Malton]], located in the south-west of the city. In Tudor times it was the grounds to a hunting lodge belonging to local nobleman Sir Walter Wyke (executed by Henry VIII for allegedly having "carnal knowledge" of one of the king's wives - thought to be the origin of the phrase "dipping one's wick"). Centuries later, 'Wyke's Wood' remained one of the more affluent areas of the city. Even post-outbreak it has rarely attracted zombies or other members of the [[Ridleybank Resistance Front|urban underclass]] in any numbers. <br />
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Historically the area was heavily forested, and it retains some of its former arcadian character in the [[Braund Park|idyllic]] [[Merryweather Park|parks]] to the [[Westway Park|southwest]]. Some medieval buildings remain, such as [[St._Fabian's_Church|St Fabian's church]], but ill-advised urban planners in the 60s and 70s are responsible for some of the [[Banger Cinema|less attractive]] [[Spraggon_Drive_Railway_Station|20th century]] [[Crabbe_Bank|additions]] to the suburb's landscape.<br />
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{{AltRadioFreq|suburb=Wykewood|stationlist=<b>Freq: 26.11: Radio Wykewood</b><br/>}}<br />
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==Resource Buildings==<br />
{{TRP List<br />
|NTs=<br />
*None<br />
|Hospitals=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Adalbert General Hospital (Wykewood)|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Josephine General Hospital (Wykewood)|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|PDs=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Lavington Crescent Police Department|template=TRP Status}}<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Samborne Walk Police Department|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|Factories=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Factory 13,71|template=TRP Status Factory}}<br />
|ARSs=<br />
{{User:DangerReport/Chilcott Auto Repair (Wykewood)|template=TRP Status}}<br />
|Malls=<br />
*None<br />
|Boards=<br />
*[[Holt Walk]] (18,75)<br />
*[[Ogbourn Way]] (18,78)<br />
|RPs=<br />
*[[Cemetery 17,75|A cemetery]] (17,75)<br />
}}<br />
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=={{PAGENAME}} Information Resources==<br />
[[Image:AquaInfo.jpg|left|45px]]The [[Building Information Center/{{PAGENAME}}|{{PAGENAME}} Building Information Center]] contains status reports and updates on key buildings in the suburb.<br />
<br />
View zombie activity in {{PAGENAME}} from [[EMRP:_{{PAGENAME}}|External Military Reports]] and [[Z.A.L.P./Scent Maps|Scentoral scan data charts]].<br />
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== Revive Points ==<br />
Wykewood's sole "published" [[Revivification Point|revive point]] is [[cemetery 17,75|a cemetery]] [17,75]. Revivification Requests may be placed using the [http://ud-malton.info/revive_requests.cgi Revive Tool] (provided by [[Department of Emergency Management|DEM]]) or the [http://jgenerals.proboards102.com/index.cgi?board=revive Josephine's Generals forum].<br />
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The cemetery at [17,72] is not an active revive point run by any organized group, although revives may occasionally be had there due to general usage of the [[Sacred Ground Policy]]. <br />
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Players waiting for revives might want to move to [[Park Walk]] in [[South Blythville]] and put in a request at the [http://s15.invisionfree.com/revive/index.php? Blythville Gang Message Board], who maintain it.<br />
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==Recent News==<br />
{{BurbNewsIntro}}<br />
===August===<br />
====August 5<sup>th</sup>====<br />
Numerous barricaded buildings and quite a few resource buildings caded and lit. Not a lot of survivors though very few zeds either. Tread carefully but without fear.--[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] ([[User talk:Rib15|talk]]) 15:26, 5 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
====August 19<sup>th</sup>====<br />
25.96 MHz: "... flying over Wykewood, it's looking empty ... several buildings with power ... only a few buildings damaged ..." -- [[User:Jen|'''Jen''']]<sup><span style="font-size:7pt;"> [[User_talk:Jen|<span style="color:darkblue">T</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[SFHNAS|<span style="color:darkred">SFHNAS</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User:Jen/JL|<span style="color:darkgreen">PK</span>]]</span></sup> 11:56, 20 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Radio Wykewood==<br />
:*27.10=Malton Telephone<br />
:*26.11=Wykewood<br />
:*26.24=NecroWatch<br />
:*26.26=DEM<br />
:*27.31=Umbrella Corp<br />
:*27.20=Tompson Mall, nearest mall<br />
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==Barricade Plan==<br />
Wykewood has a [[Uniform Barricading Policy]] compliant barricade plan which can be found on its own page: [[Wykewood Barricade Plan]] <br />
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Note that barricade plans do not necessarily represent the actual state of a building's barricades, but rather the level to which survivors agree a building should be barricaded under normal conditions.<br />
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==Suburb Map==<br />
{{EXP_Suburbblock|suburb=Wykewood|<br />
NW_Suburb=[[Crooketon#Suburb_Map|NW]]|<br />
N_Suburb=[[Mornington#Suburb_Map|N]]|<br />
NE_Suburb=[[North_Blythville#Suburb_Map|NE]]|<br />
W_Suburb=[[Nixbank#Suburb_Map|W]]|<br />
E_Suburb=[[South_Blythville#Suburb_Map|E]]|<br />
SW_Suburb=[[Foulkes_Village#Suburb_Map|SW]]|<br />
S_Suburb=[[Ruddlebank#Suburb_Map|S]]|<br />
SE_Suburb=[[Lockettside#Suburb_Map|SE]]|<br />
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location1=[[Bristol Way]]|location1_color=Street|<br />
location2=[[Moon Bank]]|location2_color=Bank|<br />
location3=[[Rudman Boulevard]]|location3_color=Street|<br />
location4=[[Massey Drive Railway Station]]|location4_color=Railway Station|<br />
location5=[[Frederick Cinema]]|location5_color=Cinema|<br />
location6=[[Carpark 15,70|a carpark]]|location6_color=Carpark|<br />
location7=[[Gilling Lane]]|location7_color=Street|<br />
location8=[[Warehouse 17,70|a warehouse]]|location8_color=Warehouse|<br />
location9=[[Carpark 18,70|a carpark]]|location9_color=Carpark|<br />
location10=[[Retter Crescent]]|location10_color=Street|<br />
location11=[[Norvell Library]]|location11_color=Library|<br />
location12=[[Line Library]]|location12_color=Library|<br />
location13=[[Casson Bank]]|location13_color=Bank|<br />
location14=[[Factory 13,71|a factory]]|location14_color=Factory|<br />
location15=[[the Smithfield Arms]]|location15_color=Arms|<br />
location16=[[Maul Walk]]|location16_color=Street|<br />
location17=[[the Ross Building]]|location17_color=Building|<br />
location18=[[Adler Boulevard]]|location18_color=Street|<br />
location19=[[Martland Library]]|location19_color=Library|<br />
location20=[[the Quaney Hotel]]|location20_color=Hotel|<br />
location21=[[Hillburn Road]]|location21_color=Street|<br />
location22=[[Kelloway Grove (Wykewood)|Kelloway Grove]]|location22_color=Street|<br />
location23=[[Carpark 12,72|a carpark]]|location23_color=Carpark|<br />
location24=[[the Boston Monument]]|location24_color=Monument|<br />
location25=[[Castleman Walk Fire Station]]|location25_color=Fire Station|<br />
location26=[[Halberry Lane]]|location26_color=Street|<br />
location27=[[St. Fabian's Church]]|location27_color=Church|<br />
location28=[[Cemetery 17,72|a cemetery]]|location28_color=Cemetery|<br />
location29=[[Carpark 18,72|a carpark]]|location29_color=Carpark|<br />
location30=[[Pegg Plaza]]|location30_color=Street|<br />
location31=[[the Fearnsides Arms]]|location31_color=Arms|<br />
location32=[[Pretor Cinema]]|location32_color=Cinema|<br />
location33=[[the Godfry Building]]|location33_color=Building|<br />
location34=[[Banger Cinema]]|location34_color=Cinema|<br />
location35=[[Semple Plaza]]|location35_color=Street|<br />
location36=[[Haile Street (Wykewood)|Haile Street]]|location36_color=Street|<br />
location37=[[Spraggon Drive Railway Station]]|location37_color=Railway Station|<br />
location38=[[Warehouse 17,73|a warehouse]]|location38_color=Warehouse|<br />
location39=[[Trott Alley School]]|location39_color=School|<br />
location40=[[the Snaydon Building]]|location40_color=Building|<br />
location41=[[the Poynter Hotel]]|location41_color=Hotel|<br />
location42=[[Samuel Park]]|location42_color=Park|<br />
location43=[[Carpark 12,74|a carpark]]|location43_color=Carpark|<br />
location44=[[Salter Place]]|location44_color=Street|<br />
location45=[[Toller Lane (Wykewood)|Toller Lane]]|location45_color=Street|<br />
location46=[[Rusher Boulevard]]|location46_color=Street|<br />
location47=[[Bunstone Way]]|location47_color=Street|<br />
location48=[[the Curtis Arms]]|location48_color=Arms|<br />
location49=[[Colmer Street]]|location49_color=Street|<br />
location50=[[Mallack Walk (Wykewood)|Mallack Walk]]|location50_color=Street|<br />
location51=[[Dix Row (Wykewood)|Dix Row]]|location51_color=Street|<br />
location52=[[the Paris Motel]]|location52_color=Hotel|<br />
location53=[[Mather Library]]|location53_color=Library|<br />
location54=[[the Dufferin Building]]|location54_color=Building|<br />
location55=[[the Skilliter Motel]]|location55_color=Hotel|<br />
location56=[[Garde Drive School]]|location56_color=School|<br />
location57=[[St. Egbert's Church (Wykewood)|St. Egbert's Church]]|location57_color=Church|<br />
location58=[[Cemetery 17,75|a cemetery]]<br>RP|location58_color=Cemetery|<br />
location59=[[Holt Walk]]|location59_color=Street|<br />
location60=[[Blight Street]]|location60_color=Street|<br />
location61=[[Crabbe Bank]]|location61_color=Bank|<br />
location62=[[Josephine General Hospital (Wykewood)|Josephine General Hospital]]|location62_color=Hospital|<br />
location63=[[Adalbert General Hospital (Wykewood)|Adalbert General Hospital]]|location63_color=Hospital|<br />
location64=[[Ellacott Plaza]]|location64_color=Street|<br />
location65=[[Smith Boulevard]]|location65_color=Street|<br />
location66=[[Wilton Drive (Wykewood)|Wilton Drive]]|location66_color=Street|<br />
location67=[[the Dement Museum]]|location67_color=Museum|<br />
location68=[[the Maguire Building]]|location68_color=Building|<br />
location69=[[Skuse Crescent]]|location69_color=Street|<br />
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==[[Pathetic Bill]]==<br />
In Malton, once players go inactive, few people remember their names other than some close friends and their obscure wiki userpages.<br><br />
...Unless their names were '''Pathetic Bill'''.<br><br />
Pathetic Bill was a group of 7 players (give or take a few) all named Pathetic Bill. They were PKers. But you already knew that (or you're very new).<br><br />
Though they got their start in Eastonwood, killing the local groups there, they soon began to travel, terrorizing Huntley Heights, Richmond Hills, and promoting [[Pk-day|PK-Day]], on 6/6/6. It was the success of PK Day that inspired D4rkness to create the [[PKA]]. <br />
At the PKA, their closely coordinated strikes caused them to be considered the best shock troops available by other groups, and the Bills were employed as such during the [[Rolt Heights War]], various events against Fort Creedy and the CDF, and other long-term attacks like the Philosophe Knights' clearing of Richmond Hills. <br><br />
The Bills were never a big group, or a particularly social group in the Metagame, but they live on in the memories of Malton's people because of their impact on the game population. They inspired successive generations of PKers (including Yours Truly) to take up PKing, at least [[SillyLillyPilly|two]] tribute [[Pathetic Bill Tribute Band|groups]], and dozens of similarly-named copy-cat killers.<br />
There was a time when seeing a Bill nearby would send survivors into a panic, and when having the Bills agree to show up to your PK event practically guaranteed success.<br><br />
Pathetic Bill has won the [[MMA]] [[Malton_Murder_Awards_2009#Most_Notorious|Most Notorious PKer Award]] Twice and the [[Malton_Murder_Awards_2008#Biggest_Pillaging_Murderer|Biggest Pillaging Murderer Award]] once through the years of 2007, 2008, and 2009. Even now, without Historical status, Pathetic Bill is [[Suburb#Suburbs_of_Note|listed]] next to the ''Eastonwood Ferals'' as part of why Eastonwood is considered a Suburb of note.<br><br />
So before you write something about how infamy alone does not lead to Historical status, or how they never brought the city to its knees, answer this: How many people will be eagerly emulating ''you'' and wearing ''your'' name when you've stopped playing this game?<br><br />
''(I wrote this quickly after realizing that the Bills were never nominated for Historical. I may have missed some important events in their timeline.)''<br />
-{{User:DT/Signature}} 00:27, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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# Nominator Vote --{{User:DT/Signature}} 00:33, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Definitely qualifies in my mind for PKing innovation even though it does so for many of the same reasons that I thought TX should get it for BHing innovation. I am curious to see how this pans out relative to the other active vote. --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Sunday, 8 July 2012</sub><br />
#Prediction: This passes with flying colors. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:51, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#Yes, and this isn't just a bandwagon vote. They honestly deserve it for numerous reasons that should be obvious to anyone that's even mildly aware of them. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:59, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#Yes. so fun to play with. i miss those guys. --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>01:08, 8 July 2012 </small><br />
#Yes - I wasn't around for the original incarnation, but their impact was still felt when I started out. For all of the reasons that have already been listed. But I'll also cite another that was only hinted at; the Pathetic Bills were so iconic that when they quit the game a void was created that was so big that another group formed in tribute to them. Name any other group that faded from Malton that was reborn in the form of a group run and crewed by entirely different players. Any other group that came back was run by and crewed by former members, no other group has ever inspired a tribute group. Especially one that was almost single handedly responsible for the PKer meta-game that we know today. -- [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 01:47, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:There was [[Sons of DARIS]] but as I understand it they were pitiful (see deleted wiki page). And then there was [[DORIS]] which I guess was more satire then tribute. I still see SLP to this day and in fact knew about SLP before I knew about Pathetic Bill (because I was PK'd by SLP not long after I started playing). Don't know if you can judge a group by their tributes, but for what its worth you could say that Pathetic Bill did inspire the longest running tribute group in UD history. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>03:43, 8 July 2012 (UTC)</sub><br />
#::The Silly Lilly Pillies never disbanded though. As far as I know it kept going and had a continual influx of new members. I know two or three of them, but only speak to one on a regular basis any more. If those girls ever disbanded I'd consider them a definite historical group as well. -- [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 21:18, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#Textbook historical group. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 01:49, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#One of the true classics in the game. Innovative, original and influential. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 05:12, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#Legendary. (On a side note, is there an official UD definition of "historical group"?)--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 08:32, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:nice reading comprehension it's only at the top of [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups page.]--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>15:15, 8 July 2012 </small><br />
#::Nice punctuation and grammar. It's a pity the definition is hidden away but even more of a pity that it's so broad as to be practically useless ("Groups are added to historical groups if they have made an impact on the way the game is played or otherwise contributed to the history of Malton").--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 19:56, 9 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:::Very true about the definition being kind of buried and practically useless when dug up. The second point has been made many, many a time. Why we can't just end the sentence at 'played' I don't know. --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 23:35, 9 July 2012 (BST) <br />
# As per Papa Moloch. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 15:41, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# A classic application of misrepresentation to inspire terror. I thought they were one person for the longest time. I don't care much about the PKing events, but everything else Tom says plays. --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 16:34, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Most definitely! --[[User:Akbar|Akbar]] 19:04, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# This and SLP would be pretty straight forward votes. Pathetic Bill had RRF level name recognition, and for good reason. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:14, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Yes. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 17:08, 9 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# yes. Though i wasn't even aware that they were gone. I just assumed the aPathetic Bill's (and similar) were part of the same crew. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 00:21, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Yes! These guys were the human monsters in the zombie apocalypse. No other group came close to how scary these guys were. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 10:26, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#Was never killed by them, but I witnessed many murders (the first time was a joint effort with Goolina, I remember being quite the starstruck noob). As Karloth, as a new survivor, these guys' wiki page and the surrounding reputation they had really had me scared, but also in awe. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 16:09, 11 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#yes. these guys terrified me when i was a n00b --[[User:Yakman|Yakman]] 11:17, 12 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Yes. I would have to agree with all these reasons stated above. {{User:Mazu/sig}} 22:45, 12 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Yes please. - [[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 00:18, 13 July 2012 (BST)<br />
===No (Pathetic Bill)===<br />
#Who? --{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 22:36, 12 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#: He's on first. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 14:42, 17 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:: I don't know!--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>15:04, 17 July 2012 </small><br />
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==[[Team Xtreme]]==<br />
[[Team Xtreme]] - Having been a Pker for a long time and seen a lot of things in this game, I will say that as far as Bhers go, and I've seen a lot, these guys were one of the best I've encountered. They were an early adversary and served as a bit of measuring stick for ones that followed. I still remember these guys putting up a tougher challenge with less than half the players 'The Saints' had. A rare Bher group that you, as a Pker, didn't want to see much of but you respected them. A small but very effective group who often took on challenges rather than cower from them. Well organized, well lead and well known to those who stuck with the game for more than a month. --[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 01:29, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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===Yes (Team Xtreme)===<br />
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# Nominator Vote - [[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 01:39, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#At least I can say I got the final shot against Josh Clark. He was a good man. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:12, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Happy birthday! :D --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 02:14, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Yes.. lol --[[User:Carrie Cutter|Carrie Cutter]] 02:17, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Yes and not just because it's you-know-who's birthday ;) [[User:Grogh|Grogh]] 02:23, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# RAWR. Joshy's awesome {{User:CrunchyCake/Sig}} 02:29, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# As the former leader I ask that all voters look at the History part of our page. We worked with Survivor groups such as the [[Cannonball Crew]] and [[Skynet Defense Network]]. Even though we were indeed Bounty Hunters we did a lot of pro survivor operations such as this one [[Alliance 45]] In 2 operations we fought the Zombies in Gulsonside with Operation Damage Control (July 21, 2010 - Sept 12, 2010) and Operation: Beaten to Death (July 28, 2011 - September 5, 2011) Also with Operation Uplift (October 1, 2010 - October 22, 2010) Wyke Hills goes from Red to Green with Team Xtreme, the Wulves and D.S. R&D. Operation Blindside (January 19, 2011 - January 28, 2011) Team Xtreme with Skynet Defense Network, FPDF, AZS, KT, MR, C4NT, WULVES, MCDU, The Fortress, DSR&D, and Z.A.L.P. worked together in Whittenside against the Feral Undead just to name a few things (Not typical BHer stuff) Operation: Rock The Dead (April 11, 2011 - July 2, 2011) Was when Team Xtreme helped defend Malton against the return of the dead. Operation: Black List (September 9, 2011 - October 3, 2011) Was when Team Xtreme fought against Text Rapists and Zergs. This event won a 2011 Malton Murder Award for Best Bounty Hunting Moment, Team Xtreme is proud to have participated in the event. Team Xtreme was also Winner of the 2011 Malton Murder Awards for Best Bounty Hunter Group. And lastly October 28, 2010 is when I officially launched my blog web show The Xtreme Zone to entertain the people of Malton. The show lasted a year. And there was 4 years worth of Bounty Hunting in between all that. So my vote is yes. We have a History Page for a reason. --[[User:Josh Clark|Josh Clark]] 02:32, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:Historical by association isn't historical. Just because you have history doesn't mean that you're historical. Particularly when that history has almost no overlap with documented notable game events. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:23, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Hell yeah!--{{User:Bad Attitude Barbie/sig}} 02:50, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# I says yep! :D --[[User:Lucy Daniels|Lucy Daniels]] 03:05, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Absolutely, Yes! When The Cannonball Crew was fighting in Gulsonside against CTD, Josh and his crew were Indispensable! [User:Midge Owner] 03:15, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Definitely!! TX will always be the best BHer group, in my opinion --[[User:Solodog|Solodog]] 03:20, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#Because I was told to. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:42, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#Because I'm scared of Carrie. *hides* --[[User:Rambo ninja spidrman|Rambo ninja spidrman]] 04:12, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Xtremest group EVER. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 04:15, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Easily one of the finest BHer groups Malton has seen. Their impact on several areas of the Pking/BHing industry may still be felt. --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Wednesday, 4 July 2012</sub><br />
# Yup......nuff said --[[User:Raven Corvus|Raven Corvus]] 15:30, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Josh's patter is hopeless and [[User:Mallrat|Hermann Munster]] always enjoyed ripping him and his Cheeto-stained buddies a new one, but TX's concerted efforts with Skynet were the only survivor push that ever threatened to shift [[Clubbed to Death]] from [[Blesley Mall]] for any length of time. The Cheeto Wars with you guys rank among the Club's most enjoyable nights out. And if that doesn't warrant a footnote in history, what does?--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 18:33, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Yes. It was always an event for the BAR when Team Xtreme came to town. [[User:Jesussante|Jesus Sante]] <sup>[[CFT]]</sup> 04:27, 5 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#As a general thing, the niche of PKers matters very little in the big picture of UD given the default conflict (survivors vs zombies) and basic game mechanics (cost of killing vs cost of revival, significance of draining AP with meatshielding and ruining which PKers don't do). BHers, being essentially a niche within the niche, matter even less as a general thing. That being said, within its narrow niche, Team Xtreme has been highly significant. When we will look back in a few years and wonder about who has mattered within the field of bounty-hunting, TX must definitively be mentioned. For that reason, I think they should be included. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 19:26, 5 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:To specially lower the bar to "Well known presence in a subgroup community" would be to devalue what Historical Groups purpose as a category. It's purpose is to help newer users to understand how the community and culture has grown and particularly the groups which will come up in discussion time and again as being why things are done. Team Xtreme doesn't even make that list for BHers, nor PKers, much less Survivors, Zombies, or Players. And its particularly egregious when most(including these) BHers by nature play poorly(ineffectively) and are not innovative strategically(Beyond RG and some of what DARIS did) in even the limited anti-pker realm, [[COMBAT REVIVE]] was a more effective anti-pker group by the numbers than this, [[404]] and [[THEM]] are/were a functionally better example of anti-pker strategy that actually had demonstrable lasting effects on both specific conflicts and the game itself. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:20, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#::Sorry, Karek, but I've got to disagree with your assessment of Historical category as a tool. If you've ever actually tried to learn about UD history based on groups in this category, you'd be pretty damn confused/frustrated. That's why projects like Zombie Renaissance, Project Timeline, UDThisMonth and others exist. These days Historical Group is nothing more than a badge. I'd argue that TX are probably more deserving of the badge than other groups wearing it, but I don't think they necessarily NEED it to be recognized as a group that contributed to UD's history.~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>18:55, 7 July 2012 (UTC)</sub><br />
#:::Just want to note that both Project Timeline and UDThisMonth use Historical Group status as a criterion for inclusion, so this vote has bearing on those pages. See [[UDWiki talk:Project Timeline#Group inclusion|here]] and [[UDWiki talk:Project Timeline#So I've...|here]]. [[User:Bob Moncrief|Bob Moncrief]] 21:33, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#::::Historical Group status is specifically not a criteria for inclusion on PT. That's why you don't see groups like [[ASS]], [[Brain Central]], [[Mockers]] or other questionably historic groups but you do see [[RRF]], [[Fortress]], [[ACC]] and others. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>22:24, 7 July 2012 (UTC)</sub><br />
#:::In this case your disagreement note actually reinforces why this nonsense is nonsense. My statement is based on why this category exists, which was initially to preserve pages of noteworthy groups from deletion during the Crit 12 days so that valuable reference material wouldn't be lost. Since then we've preserved it as a navigational reserve for those groups who we accept as being information-ally important to the mission statement of the wiki(i.e. Providing imporatnt game relevant information). Team Xtreme is an example of a group that will never meet that purpose and ''shouldn't'' even be up for a vote. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:04, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# As Spiderzed above. --[[User:Belisarius17|Belisarius17]] 03:30, 6 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Worked with TX...agree with Spiderzed. {{User:Met fan/sig}} 06:13, 6 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# What Josh said, what Albert said, what Mallrat said. [[User:Leon Silverblood|Leon Silverblood]] 17:46, 6 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# As Albert, as Spiderzed --[[User:CptFastbreak|CptFastbreak]] 18:39, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# At some point you have to look at a groups contributions as a whole, not just if they changed the game or were one of the first organized groups six years ago. Otherwise you can pretty much stop adding groups to this category altogether. A lot of groups have had a huge impact on the game and its players without having changed how its played or bringing about new rules or mechanics. A good group that does well, contributes positively in its particular field, and has maintained reasonable longevity in the community should be recognized. TX has done all of that.--[[User:Roddy Winters|Roddy Winters]] 19:51, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:This is not true. Quantity of stuff they do does not outweigh the quality. And honestly, the people arguing for this have only pointed out the quantity, not the quality. And those voting no aren't seeing the quality and making judgements based on quantity. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:40, 9 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Yes please. [[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 00:19, 13 July 2012 (BST)<br />
===No (Team Xtreme)===<br />
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# meh and meh. they did nothing that other BH groups didn't do before. --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>01:50, 4 July 2012 </small><br />
# Convince me. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]] 18:22, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:Since you asked let me give it a shot. Admittedly, what follows is information that predates me. It is my understanding of events and if its accuracy needs to be called into question, please feel free. How did TX change the game? Undoubtedly, there were BHers before TX. My understanding is that most of them were lone hunters or small groups of 2 to 3. They would come together at places like the RG but not in a permanent strategic way. Was there Pack BHing, yes. Organizations like the DEM were organized and engaged in BHing along with their many other functions. My understanding is that if there were purely BHer groups before the time that TX, Malton Marshals, and the Saints formed in 2008, they were transitory. They specialized and they organized for the sole purpose of hunting bounties and they were good at it, providing a counterpoint to PKing groups which had been around for some time. Helping to create organized opposition lead to BHer events like All saints day in 2008 and the organized opposition to Samhain Slaughter. BHer groups are a feature of the game today. Now, while I might well be unaware of a notable group or two that would damage this argument, one thing I am fairly sure of is that TX was instrumental in introducing BHer arms into super groups. There were super groups before TX, but since their inception from Alliance 45 to Cannonball Crew to SDN, TX was there making their specialized services a part of how groups like this would operate. Regardless of how one feels about BHing groups or supergroups, they are a part of Malton life and TX helped make them what they are today. Long winded but I hope it helps. --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Friday, 6 July 2012</sub><br />
#::there is nothing "super" about any of the groups you just mentioned.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>03:08, 6 July 2012 </small><br />
#:::Funny then that you are listed as leadership on [[New Malton Colossus|a group that evidently thinks otherwise]]. Might want to see to setting that straight :P --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Friday, 6 July 2012</sub><br />
#::::i can still think they are D-bags can't i? and the NMC is a collective with no real leadership. cat herding comes to mind.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>05:05, 6 July 2012 </small><br />
#::[[Shearbank Liberation Army]], [[Dulston Defense Death Squad]], to name a few old BHer groups (or semi-BHer groups) of the old days that has Historical status, Al. Sure, they were limited to a single location and didn't use Rogue's Gallery as heavily as today's BHer groups, but they were still BHer groups. Just...correcting your facts a little there, Al. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:36, 6 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:::They didn't use RG <u>at all</u> because it didn't exist yet. The concept of bounties didn't even exist. Back then it was just a PK List hosted on Desensitized with screenshots of last known locations. Ironicly, though, it was former members of [[DARIS]], whom the [[SLA]] were were at war with that were partially responsible for the modern bounty system. That new group was called The [[Council of Leaders (new)]], led by [[User:Katthew|Katthew]] (and others). They were the real pioneers in Bounty Hunting as are those members of [[DEM]] who founded the Rogues Gallery. Just correcting some of your facts, Axe. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>17:41, 6 July 2012 (UTC)</sub><br />
#:::Thanks Axe, I figured I missed a few, but the fact remains, these groups were institutional or regionally strategic. I still maintain that the 08 groups brought something new to the table that was not there before and still is there today. TX to me was the most successful and recognized of the newer batch. Their influence was formative and therefore historically significant.--{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Friday, 6 July 2012</sub><br />
#::::That can be seen both ways. For one, I honestly believed RG was a lot better back then before it moved to it's current home. TX deserves a spot in historical, but ''not'' for the reasons you've stated here. It's the same with CK. CK deserves to be historical too, but not for the reasons stated in both CK votes. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:05, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#::Where are you getting your information regarding dates? I assume it's the wiki, and you don't realise that the history gets wiped every so often, making the History tab inherently unreliable. The [[Malton Marshals]] date back to [http://web.archive.org/web/20060510154131/http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Malton_Marshals 2006 or so]. [[Fascist Pig Hunters]] adopted that name and their PKer hunting ways at the beginning of 2006. Pretty sure the [[CDF]]'s PKer Response Unit (PKRU) dates back to '06 as well, but you'd have to check with them because they don't make much information publicly available. Either way, while TX were certainly notable the last few years, you can in no way call them a founding bounty hunting group. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 02:07, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:::My guess is the earliest possible entry in the History tab, although had Al checked their [[Talk:Malton Marshals|talk page]]... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:45, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#::::Yes, that was my guess too. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 03:09, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:::::Yes that is where it came from. I was unaware of the history wipes. I mentioned that this all predates me right? I might still argue though that being the principle torch-bearer of a tradition is a historically significant role, as is advancing the work of a predecessor into a more public arena. Without treating this as notable, there are gaps in your timeline. --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Sunday, 8 July 2012</sub><br />
#::::::Aye. The formation of the groups I mentioned predate me, too; I just read a lot. (And had to set the record straight.) {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 03:48, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:::::::It's also probably worth mention here that the RG list was predated by CDF and DHPD's lists in addition to whatever was running on ressenz/dessenz at the time. There was a point in time where the go to list recommendation was those two groups wiki based PKer bounty lists(which I believe are still somewhat maintained?).--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:10, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#::::::Ya, the wiki history is periodically wiped as to not slow down and strain the servers. We were suppose to get another history wipe a few months ago (as stated by Kevan himself), but it seems that wipe never occured. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Why are they historical? Because they were effective? Did they change the game? Is this another popularity contest? --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 20:08, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# As above. This vote is largely irrelevant, as there is clearly a bandwagon rolling. However, I'm really not seeing this at all. They were... alright and that's about it. If a CV features only events that the applicant actually has to explain then there is not much there. If there were a category for Historical Characters (and I have long believed that there should be), then Josh Clark would make it. Team Xtreme though? Not for me. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 20:32, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:Edited to add: The menstrual outbursts added to the initial proposal are absolutely absurd. There is no evidence of significant PKer bias in the contrasting votes for TX and Pathetic Bill and there isn't necessarily a need to 'change the game' in order to make the list. The Bills were very original, highly influential and famous both on the map and in the metagame. In short, they added something new. TX, while a good team, were essentially just a later equivalent of other older groups, spent much of their career perceptibly overshadowed by the Saints, embarked upon repeated incarnations of Operation Trenchyname (about which only those directly involved gave even a quarter of a damn) and have a CV upon which half the content relates to their alliances/service to other groups. Of the three examples that Josh has cited in his edit, two involve unheard of 'wars' with very minor groups ('...things of legend'? How embarrassing.) and the other amounts to 'We tagged along on a major event, tried to fuck it up and failed.' It's hardly C4NT stuff.<br />
#:As for the alleged 'PKer bias', holy fucking shit. Before slinging that accusation about, try taking off the tinfoil hat and having an objective look at some of the 'Yes' votes: I can see at least 11 that offer no reasoning at all, more that offer specious reasons and more than a few obvious RSVPs to the meatpuppet house-party. In short, even if a couple of PKers are voting without due objective consideration, they aren't even close to leveling the circle jerk score. <br />
#:The one thing on which I will agree with Josh is that things should indeed change in this category. However, they need to change in a way that would mean that no-one would bother even proposing a group like TX for Historical Group status. My own interpretation of 'Historical' is less stringent than Karek's, but it's far closer to his than the circle jerk mess that this category has become. If I had my way then about 80% of the current groups would have their status removed and I would never have even allowed Columbine Kids to be put forward at all. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 19:19, 9 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:I'm a lot better looking than you. No hard feelings. --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 06:44, 6 July 2012 (BST) <br />
#::Yeah, but my penis is far larger and we both know that that's what the bitches really love, brah. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 19:19, 9 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:::Stop flirting with me. --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 23:28, 9 July 2012 (BST) <br />
#::::Don't deny your feelings, Paddy. There is no shame in love. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 09:18, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# never heard of you and frankly the number of votes such a none group are getting makes it obvious how much of a joke this category has become. Seriously... what did you do that made an impact, let alone changed the game? --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 22:29, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Good at what they did, I guess. Outstandingly so? Nope. Uniquely so? Nope. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:37, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# No real game significance--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 23:43, 4 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# As Paddy and Moloch. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:47, 5 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 04:55, 5 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# I liked Team Xtreme. They were good at what they did and weren't obnoxious about it, either. Other groups have gotten Historical due to being so good that they forced other groups to change their tactics to deal with them, but I don't think TX did that. And I really don't think TX had the sort of presence that impacted the suburbs they went through. I'm rather sad to find that they've disbanded though. Until I saw this, I thought they were still active. --{{User:DT/Signature}} 05:30, 5 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#:Hey, where the hell have you been? Imma stalk u now. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>23:04, 5 July 2012 (UTC)</sub><br />
# This group has never been important or notable. Nor have they had any real impact on the game or 90% of the meta at any point in their history. If Team Xtreme had never existed not only would no one here have noticed, no one here would have cared. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 11:31, 5 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# No.--[[User:Akbar|Akbar]] 18:21, 6 July 2012 (BST)<br />
#: From CK's last crash n' burn:<br />
#:Yeah, everyone knows who they were, they had a sense of humor, and they killed a lot of people. Good enough for me.--Akbar 02:11, 13 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
#:This is the group that most voters here agree were at least famous and good at BHing (meaning they killed a lot of people). And humor? TX launched the Cheetos wars on CtD and famously mocked the Heathers as they fought . Sense of humor indeed. But keep fucking that chicken of hypocrisy.--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 23:36, 9 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# No. A highly visible and fairly well coordinated bounty hunting fixture for many years, but didn't change the game nor challenge the perimeters, nor do anything singularly more spectacular, sophisticated or successful than any other group. --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 01:06, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Meh. Even if they were "highly significant" within bounty hunting (and I've seen little indication that they were, they were just very good at it, they didn't change the way people bounty hunt) it's kind of silly to say that that makes you historical. If you say being very good or even the best at a given subsection of the game is noteworthy, you get in to a weird line of argumentation. If there's a really specialised section of the game e.g. people who hunt people who hunt people who hunt zergs, if the people who do that are very good at it, are they historical? No. Because what they do represents a very small aspect of the game which is largely insignificant. If we look at the history of the game, these guys didn't change it in any way; they aren't a landmark on it. They were just very good at playing the game as it was. '''Not Historical'''. --[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 01:19, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# No. There is absolutely nothing that stands out about them, historically or otherwise. -- {{User:CyanEyed/Sig}} 14:12, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# How did this group change the way UD is played or have a significant impact on the community at large, i.e. on the whole, not just in one or two suburbs. It didn't. And I don't have to have been around a lot lately to tell from the application that this group is NOT qualfiied. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 14:28, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# Team Xtreme was a good group filled with players who had class. No one who was ever bountied by one of their members can say that the person who killed them was a dick about it. But they didn't really impact the game enough to justify a historical group. -- [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 02:11, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# After considering all the arguments on both sides and my own thoughts, I'm going to have to come down on the '''not historical''' side. While I always enjoyed playing against Team Xtreme, I don't consider them to have changed the way I or any of my groups played – which, I might remind you ,included the largest PKer groups in the game. Albert Schwan's argument, that they were the first BH group to be part of a "supergroup", can be disproved singlehandedly by [[CDF]] in the old days (they were HUGE) and their PKRU, or by the [[DEM]]'s [[Malton Marshals]] branch, both of which were extant several years prior to Team Xtreme's founding.<br/> In my opinion, your strongest argument for Historical Status is the movies and videos put out by Josh Clark. That man is a star! <small>(N.B. I may be biased by having appeared in his first animated movie. {{shifty}})</small> {{User:Revenant/Sig}}<br />
# Not outstanding enough. A good group but not of the same calibre as genuinely game-changing groups like Pathetic Bill. Sorry. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 10:32, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
# No. Five years in the game, never heard of them. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 00:49, 19 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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just a question why and how did the roftwood assault force become historical?--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>04:16, 23 June 2011 (bst)</small><br />
:[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/SucceededArchive#Roftwood_Assault_Force|here's the vote]]. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 05:45, 23 June 2011 (BST)<br />
::man did it squeak by. must have been when i was inactive for a few months.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>06:06, 23 June 2011 (bst)</small><br />
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==TX==<br />
===Pker Bias?===<br />
Place your bets here. As much I think TX does deserve a spot in historical, I don't think they will make it. From what I'm seeing, this is basically half the PKer meta striking back at the BHer meta for making CK fail. Twice. This is what happens when you're biased in these things. We have ourselves a silent subconscious meta war...Who wants to bet something will blow out of proportion soon? -_-" --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 05:20, 5 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:Nope. I don't see how this vote is going any different than any other recent vote. You're either in the purist camp (those that cling to the vague voting criteria) or the popularity camp (voteing based on how well you personally like/dislike the group) or you're a meatpuppet. Don't see any evidence of a so-called "meta-war" or "payback" voting. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>22:58, 5 July 2012 (UTC)</sub><br />
::Never part of the PK scene, nor did I ever BH. I have no stake in voting against your group other than a proper understanding of what it means to be Historical. Have a nice day. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 14:33, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:::It's what Vapor said. With a little side of the standard "let's get our friends out to upvote us". --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:56, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:Get a grip, son. Look at all the PKers who voted for (To The) Four Winds and C4NT, among many other deserving groups. You're the one blowing this out of proportion. Just because you think your group should be historical doesn't mean your group is historical. And let's not forget that without those nasty, biased PKers you would never have had a group in the first place, yes? --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 16:06, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
::You're talking to someone who plays PKer alts exclusively, mate. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:11, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
::::badly i might add. --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>01:09, 8 July 2012 </small><br />
:::::It's only badly 'cause I was the one who began the "Axe Hack is a horrible PKer" joke. And let's face it. That joke accomplished what I expected it to accomplish. Now mostly everyone sees me as a bad and incompetent PKer. 'Cause I wanted them to. {{Wink}} The actual truth is, "I'm just lazy and don't really give a crap enough to be a serious PKer." --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:49, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
::: [[File:MJPopcorn.gif]] {{User:Kempy/sig}} 17:20, 7 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:I'm a Player Killer and I voted no for the CK almost everytime they pop up. And it has nothing to do with not liking them. To be honest before they retired I had a character I was leveling to join them with, but never got around to applying before they retired. They're a great group, but other than their reputation and roleplay style they weren't really noteworthy as a PKer group. They're a great group with great players and a really good theme, but they're not historical to me. I'm about to no vote Team Xtreme for the same reason with roughly the same sentiment. - [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 02:08, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
::no in fact you voted '''yes''' and missed the first vote. {{quote|Goribus| Fuck yes. The Columbine Kids are one of the most infamous groups just based on name and reputation alone. If you played the game on a regular basis before they disbanded, you most likely heard of them. The group also polarized people you either got it and loved them, got it and hated them, or didn't get it and hated them. The only thing about them that sucks is that they won't be around anymore and I never got around to leveling the character I wanted to join with before I left the game. -- Goribus Talk 600px-Cobra.svg.png Cobra•RDD RDDInsignia copy.png 12:50, 3 April 2011 (BST)}} Lucky we have archives to catch people in their bullshit --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>02:47, 13 July 2012 </small><br />
::I've never had any issues with CK in any way and I vote the same. Although, I have a reputation as an almost but not really notable zombie player it can be argued I've contributed far more to survivor strategy over the years. Either way, CK failed because they didn't add anything to the game beyond in their direct meta-circle. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:56, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:What a perplexing anaylisis of the votes. I've been everything at one point or another but a PKer the least, hold no biases about CK or anyone but to be honest these guys were nobodies to me. Know Josh Clarke but TX... What is that, Texas? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 16:15, 11 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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===Additional Moved Comments from Summary===<br />
ADD - Alright. You people who keep using the "What have you done to change the game?"...you people are fucking morons. Take a good look then at the whole category and throw it the fuck out. Aside from 2, maybe 3 groups, NO ONE has changed the game. It's too big. So if that's only criteria, We might as well shut the whole thing down now? K? Good. Bye bye. Christ, half you duffs don't even play the game anymore. I'm about done with it. Hence my rant. -[[User:Hibernaculum|Hibernaculum]] 03:55, 9 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:There are plenty of groups that are recent-ish that deserve inclusion, this just isn't one of them. Here's a short list of a few of the more notable ones; [[The Dribbling Beavers]], [[THEM]], [[(To_The)_Four_Winds]], [[404:_Barhah_not_found]], [[COMBAT REVIVE]](ever wonder where DIRT:NAP came from?), and [[MOB]]. Their achievements? DB => [[Battle of Santlerville]][[Battle of SantLUEville|<sup>2</sup>]], [[THEM]] => the modern NT Defense, Four Winds and 404 => [[C4NT]]ness along with having a significant impact anywhere they went against groups many times their size, [[COMBAT REVIVE]] => This group is why DIRT:NAP exists along with the offensive revive strategies numerous popular UD extensions and are the documented source of the modern mobile group strategy, [[MOB]] => Pick a reason they all apply to MOB. All of these groups(except MOB who are 07) came around during or after yours, a few by ''years''. I could throw [[the Dead]] in there too actually since they also came later. I'd actually rank even [[The Malton Globetrotters]], the [[Dulston Alliance]], and [[Extinction]] as more notable groups though I wouldn't include them on an historical list, particularly not that last one. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:11, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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I have to go with Hib on this. Now a days all the groups still active can't change the game. The historical votes should be closed if that is the case. The Pathetic Bill votes just goes to show the biased PKer base the wiki has. A Pker group can get the okay, but a BHer group does not stand a chance? And from a bunch of people who do not even play the game anymore? How can that be fair if they aren't even involved in the game? Put it this way those who don't even play the game probably do not remember [[Samhain Slaughter 3]] Team Xtreme was the force behind getting as many of the Bounty Hunters together to attack the PKers before their strike on a Mall. This action made it so the PKers had to try to create a decoy Mall to throw the BHers hunting them off the trail. (This did not happen in the previous Samhain Slaughters) We did find the true target and did strikes on the PKers. We even warned the occupants in the Mall of the upcoming attack (Although they chose to ignore our warnings) The Mall of course was destroyed do to the fact that PKers have always out numbered the Bounty Hunters. But there is no denying that we were a challenge and Samhain 3 would not have been as fun with out the cat and mouse game. For those who do remember Samhain 3, tell me this how was the other Samhains after that? When the BHers did not bother to interfere? I also would like to point out that Team Xtreme always took pride in the fact that we were the first and biggest thorn in the PKer group [[Heathers]] side. To my knowledge no other Bounty Hunter or group have targeted the Heather's them selves as well as their "Man Slaves" The battles TX had against the Heather group are things of legend. I also would like to point out our battle with the [[LUEshi's Rangers]] on their Journal here http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/LUEshi%27s_Rangers/Campaign_Journal if you would read the entry for their The Penny Heights Campaign November 05th, 2010 - November 23rd, 2010 The rangers words speaks volumes. From our works in both Text Rapists hunting and Zerg Hunting as well as all the other things mentioned from numerous people who knew Team Xtreme both as allies and adversaries Team Xtreme should be listed as Historical. But the way things are run on the wiki it is clear that this proves to be impossible until things are changed. --[[User:Josh Clark|Josh Clark]] 17:05, 9 July 2012 (BST)<br />
::josh I'm sorry but you can't compare your group to the bills you aren't even in the same league. bills famous. TX again as ddr what is that texas? --{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>13:13, 12 July 2012 </small><br />
:For one, [[Samhain Slaughter 3]] is a non-historical event for the same reason this group is having trouble passing the bar, a lack of significant impact on the game or the meta-culture thereof. It was also the most prominent thing on the Columbine Kids' bid which is part of why ''they also failed'', if you want important PKer related events you'll be hard pressed to find any mostly because they just don't happen. Neither of the other two groups you mention having involvement against have similarly had a significant impact on the game. The few pker groups that have been listed had high membership and/or(inclusive, as the 2nd applies to all) a massive psychological impact on the meta-psyche of the game, [[Red Rum]], [[Malton DEA]], [[Amish_Liberation_Front|the ALF]], the [[Disciples of Zeko]], etc. These are all PKer groups that were notable terrors at the time in the game. People as a survivor you always worried about showing up and who represented the absolute best of what made the PKer threat mentality that led to the formation of BHer groups and lists in the first place. People changed how they played because of them, Urban Dead was changed because of those groups presence in the game. Team Xtreme or Colombine Kids are simply not on that level, and two of those groups had less than 20 people. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:45, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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"Columbine Kids = offensive + famous + didn't change game = 100% absolutely fucking Historical!" <br><br />
"Team Xtreme = famous + participated in events more than CK + didn't change game = Not Historical at all." <br />
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Go fuck yourselves. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 23:36, 9 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:Columbine Kids are ''not'' an historical group. Matter of fact they [[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Columbine_Kids|failed on vote]] [[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Columbine_Kids_2|Twice]]. Many of the same people were also against them. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:19, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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==Historical Characters==<br />
{{Quote|The Hierophant|If there were a category for Historical Characters (and I have long believed that there should be)...}} Good point. Why is there not one and who do we see about getting there to be one? Admittedly the voting on such a category could get ugly from time to time, but it would seem to be a useful thing to have a who's who of the zombie apocalypse past and present divided into reasonable subsections (survivors, zombies, Pkers, BHers etc) with explanatory text or profile links. If in game personalities were only considered if they had contributed to UD for a long enough period (say 3 or 4 years) outlined in a guidelines section, the ranks of such a category should not get too overcrowded--{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Sunday, 8 July 2012</sub><br />
:I'd imagine the introduction of such a category would require a vote and the usual wiki bureaucracy. As far as potential ugliness goes, I can see a couple of possible flashpoints: The first is voting, as you mentioned; the other is write-ups: Just who would write them and what/how much could they say? On the length of contribution, I agree that we don't want it to get too crowded, but three or four years of contribution for a character (as opposed to player, which is a matter of further discussion, as some players are more influential than their characters) is, in my opinion, rather too long. There are people who have done a lot in no time at all and others (the majority) who have done nothing in a very long time. There also also the matter of whether we'd accept entries for active players. All points for discussion. Considering those who could be included, here's a starter list just from the top of my head (if anyone truly viable has been excluded it's down to a lapse in memory or my own lack of insight into their playing 'faction', not because I'd necessarily vote against them):<br />
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'''Zombies'''<br />
*Petrosjko (Founding Papa of the RRF).<br />
*Sonny (Second Papa of the RRF, leader of the Big Bash, controversial character, Papa during the Battle of Blackmore).<br />
*Murray Jay Suskind (Fourth Papa of the RRF, rebuilt the War Council, the man who conceded defeat at the Battle of Santlerville).<br />
*Lord Moloch (I hate putting my own character forward, but the case is there. Not wanting to go ego-pumping, I won't denote the reasons unless asked to).<br />
*Goolina (Founder of the Gore Corps, hugely famous and controversial character).<br />
*Grim (Former Warmaster of the RRF. Notorious, hugely influential in the formation of the horde).<br />
*Jorm (Leader of the RRF's Barhah Brigade, founder of the MOB... We all know he would have to be in).<br />
*Bisfan (Second leader of the MOB. Famous and very well-known).<br />
*Keith Moon (Leader of Minions of the Apocalypse).<br />
*Bullgod (Leader of Feral Undead).<br />
*Katthew (The Dead and others. Also, just... Katthew).<br />
*We'd also need reps from Eastonwood Ferals, LUE and Shacknews, though it's a matter of debate which ones.<br />
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'''Survivors'''<br />
(Others will need to pad this out, as there are gaps in my knowledge, especially on individual CVs. I'm a killer, not a breather...). <br />
*Kristi of the Dead.<br />
*Alex DeWitt.<br />
*Sir Fred of Etruria.<br />
*Ron Burgundy.<br />
*Sexy Rexy Grossman.<br />
*Jensonson.<br />
*Someone from CDF.<br />
*... Yeah, help me out here!<br />
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'''PKers'''<br />
*Sirens.<br />
*Karloth Vois.<br />
*Headless Gunner.<br />
*Kyle the Feared.<br />
*Alf Landon.<br />
*Pathetic Bill.<br />
*There are more, obviously. I don't know much about the foundations and histories of the Philosophe Knights and DARIS, for example. Also, if high bounty characters are to be considered then we should rule out all self-reporters. The isn't a single truly significant PKer who self-reports, as far as I'm aware.<br />
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'''Bounty Hunters'''<br />
*AidenFury.<br />
*Strayla.<br />
*Nicholas Risto.<br />
*Josh Clark.<br />
*Ciskokitty.<br />
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'''Others'''<br />
*The top Zerg hunters such as Prudence and Caesar Augustus (the latter is me again, full disclosure FYI) are worth considering. <br />
*Someone come up with more, as I'm done with thinking for now.<br />
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So yeah, there's a start based upon characters alone. Obviously if it was extended to players then there are more to be considered (Anime Sucks, for example), as that would have to encompass the metagame. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 07:35, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:PKers: Bob Hammero and Jimbo Bob. Others: Me (for reviving the Malton Manhunt and making those events such a blast during the Manhunt's golden era). BHers: minus Ciscokitty, plus Lois Millard, Raven Corvus, Erica Rackham, and Katie Burns. Survivors: Dickholeguy (best fucking leader the Malton Rangers ever had), Lachyrma. Zombies: The organizers of Big Bash 1, 2, and 3, and whoever founded Shacknews. Just my two cents. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 13:56, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
::Make it too complicated and the wiki may experience some slight turbulence and then explode. Call it historical characters and give it the exact same criteria as historical groups, and you might see the category debut in early 2015. Or hold a discussion on how to ''improve'' the groups category so that's it's not such a preening popularity contest (assuming there's a way for it not to be), and ''then'' institute the characters category. That would take us to 2017. --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 16:54, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:::^This. Honestly, no need to put such a list through the typical wiki beuracracy. Not only would it breed contention, I'm sure you'd run into some issues with userpage edits should someone want to add a Historic Characters template. I believe Ross started something in his userspace already. As for some of my contributions: Kevan (duh) and Akule (contributions to zerg hunting). I'd include more but I don't think this is really the place for nominations. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>18:21, 8 July 2012 (UTC)</sub><br />
::::we could honestly make it a consensus driven article like Notable Suburbs voting. That actually historically works better for filtering out the *Really* notable ones as opposed to the popular can win an at the time vote ones. I would be against any vote type system for this and since we're discussing it here's my take on Moloch's list. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:56, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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RE:Moloch<br />
{{Divquote|'''Zombies'''<br />
*Petrosjko (Founding Papa of the RRF). ''This is a given''<br />
*<strike>Sonny (Second Papa of the RRF, leader of the Big Bash, controversial character, Papa during the Battle of Blackmore).</strike> ''He was more notable as a survivor actually.''<br />
*<strike>Murray Jay Suskind (Fourth Papa of the RRF, rebuilt the War Council, the man who conceded defeat at the Battle of Santlerville).</stike> ''An argument might be possible for him but, this is more an RRF notable not an actual notable''<br />
*<strike>Lord Moloch (I hate putting my own character forward, but the case is there. Not wanting to go ego-pumping, I won't denote the reasons unless asked to).</strike> ''Some fame, some infamy, all mostly only in group though, like Murray''<br />
*<strike>Goolina (Founder of the Gore Corps, hugely famous and controversial character).</srike>''As a PKer, sure. She reinvented a significant part of PKing. Not really notable though outside of her groups''<br />
*<strike>Grim (Former Warmaster of the RRF. Notorious, hugely influential in the formation of the horde).</strike> ''Although there may be an argument for some of his TDD contributions. If we're listing for Notworthy contributions him and Beauxdeigh would be an auto-in though''<br />
*Jorm (Leader of the RRF's Barhah Brigade, founder of the MOB... We all know he would have to be in). ''Yes yes yes, a million times yes''<br />
*<strike>Bisfan (Second leader of the MOB. Famous and very well-known).</strike> ''Not known outside of his circles. He's not a name you'll hear whispered in terror across Malton''<br />
*Keith Moon (Leader of Minions of the Apocalypse). ''Pretty Much''<br />
*Bullgod (Leader of Feral Undead). ''People still get amazed when he pops up however rarely''<br />
*Katthew (The Dead and others. Also, just... Katthew). ''The Many would also seal this one''<br />
*<strike>We'd also need reps from Eastonwood Ferals, LUE and Shacknews, though it's a matter of debate which ones.</strike> ''Mentions for mentions sake. However there is a name I know I'm blanking on right now that was someone's alt Identity and that alt was uniquely famous''<br />
*''Sweet Zombie Jesus''<br />
*''Warlord Xyu''<br />
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'''Survivors'''<br />
(Others will need to pad this out, as there are gaps in my knowledge, especially on individual CVs. I'm a killer, not a breather...). <br />
*Kristi of the Dead.<br />
*<strike>Alex DeWitt.</strike><br />
*Sir Fred of Etruria.<br />
*Ron Burgundy.<br />
*Sexy Rexy Grossman.<br />
*<strike>Jensonson.</strike><br />
*<strike>Someone from CDF.</strike><br />
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'''PKers'''<br />
*Sirens.<br />
*Karloth Vois.<br />
*<strike>Headless Gunner.</strike> ''in-group meta''<br />
*<strike>Kyle the Feared.</strike> ''More for meta contributions not actual playing''<br />
*<strike>Alf Landon.</strike> ''If I haven't heard of him there's a problem''<br />
*Pathetic Bill.<br />
*<strike>There are more, obviously. I don't know much about the foundations and histories of the Philosophe Knights and DARIS, for example. Also, if high bounty characters are to be considered then we should rule out all self-reporters. The isn't a single truly significant PKer who self-reports, as far as I'm aware.</strike> ''This would be a horrible measurement''<br />
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'''<strike>Bounty Hunters</strike>'''<br />
*''This is all only in a specific small meta groupset of players, not relevant to the game''}}<br />
:Honestly the list can possibly be even more shrunk down to Petro, Keith Moon, Burgandy, Karloth, Xyu, Rexy, KotD, and Jorm for the super short list. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:56, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
::I agree with Karek on a lot of these, although I don't know if excluding someone for making a big impact on the metagame is entirely fair. There's only so much a single player can do without it being classed as 'metagame'. Headless Gunner, for example, organized and led the PKA during its heyday for a LONG time, besides which he gained notoriety for leading the CGR to victory for years.<br />
::TBH, I don't think there's a single Philosophe Knight who would be eligible for the page either way, though, Moloch. I've been one since January 2007 and I couldn't name a single one besides ''maybe'' Flogging Molly whose name was recognized outside of our forums. We go out of our way to ''not'' make a name for ourselves, and frankly, I don't think the group itself qualifies as Historical (longevity isn't enough). You can pretty much exclude any of us from this page. <br />
::I DO like the idea, though, and would very much like to see it become a reality. --{{User:DT/Signature}} 21:10, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
I totally am thinking about this, it's in my usespace at the minute, but a small template thing would be good. (About the size of [[Bub]] would be ideal. Plus that way I can definitely put Dermot O'Leary in . --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]] 18:31, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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With all due respect it is a good idea in theory, but there's already a potential circle jerk going on due to the fact that the requirements for a Historical Character would be even more vague than a historical group. I mean no offense to Axe, but if he seriously thinks that he belongs on a list with the players Moloch listed then he's fucking insane. But given his number of friends he'd be a shoe in. People complain about meat puppetry and popularity contests as it is with Historical groups. What do you think's going to happen when it's individual players? For example, I could probably get myself on this list if I called in enough favors and asked enough people to vote for me despite the fact that I clearly don't belong on that list either. Food for thought. -- [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 21:30, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:ditto--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>00:30, 10 July 2012 </small><br />
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I think people are getting confused as to whether we are basing this on characters or players. {{User:CrunchyCake/Sig}} 21:54, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:I was thinking that considering only players would weed out some of the meta-game that people find offensive. Some of it is unavoidable; let's face it here, we are dealing with 9 colored squares and a couple dozen boxes. Also, there are fewer players active consistently and contributing to the state of Malton for long stretches of time than there are users who stick around and run different players. The more stringent the application requirements, the fewer will be eligible and the easier such a thing would be to manage. As to it becoming a popularity contest, voting always is. Why fight it when you can work with it? The only control you can exercise regarding the quality of the applicants is in eligibility requirements. If those are more black and white (A certain active duration, no self-nomination, etc.) you insure that anyone who has managed to meet them and still is able to win a popularity contest, belongs in the category. To a certain extent, being important makes you popular most of the time if not necessarily liked in all cases. Founders of historic groups would be a good bet to win a vote like this as would milestone characters like Bud, but it would also open up the category to influential individuals. As to whether the players need be retired, if you think about it, knowing the heroes and villains of the past is handy from an academic standpoint but knowing the living legends who are still hanging around Malton is a lot more useful from day to day. I would argue that, as long as they meet the requirements, active/inactive status should not be an issue. While this would be best in a more public space, if it must be confined to Ross's userspace for the time then so be it. Just let me know if there is anything I can do to help. For the record, I would not vote for Axehack either but that is because he stopped using his namesake alt in manhunts some time ago. Given another year or so of continued advancement of the institution of manhunting in game, I might be inclined to vote for his mudkip. --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Monday, 9 July 2012</sub><br />
::It'd be characters for sure. Case in point; Huey Long was a super famous personality in zombie culture, Keith Moon/Petrojsko level famous. Most people don't know that he's actually an alt because the player in question intentionally separated their personal reputation from the characters. Notability in the game should reflect notoriety in the gamespace, things people can be curious about without needing external knowledge or forum participation. That at least should be the basic starting barometer of if a character is truly noteworthy. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:30, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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Hay guys what about uncle zeddie lul {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 16:11, 11 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:Ha!--[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]] 18:49, 11 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note]] is now up and running. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]] 18:49, 11 July 2012 (BST)<br />
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==Removing Historical Status==<br />
In Historical Events there is [[Category_talk:Historical_Events#Nominations_for_Removal_of_Historical_Status | this]] to remove events. Does the same option exist for historical groups? If I understand correctly once upon a time, being historical just meant important enough to not be deleted? --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 15:02, 8 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:Yes and no, historical groups was intentionally established as certain groups got grandfathered in. There's a list along with reasons in the archives. In addition to that certain groups in this case don't quite make sense years after the fact. Most players have no idea who [[The Shining Ones]] or [[ALF]] were these days but back in the day they were the equivalents of [[RRF]] and [[RedRum]]. There's more than a few like that in the current list and the ones that likely deserve removal and seem to have passed voting by popularity(and most of these are actually more recent, like FoD) aren't likely to be nominated for this status or effected by it. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:18, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
::How long will a group's page stay up if they fail a historical bid? --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 17:53, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:::I'd imagine it will stay up permanently, or until one of the group in question requests deletion. The status category was originally created to prevent the pages in question being deleted under an old criterion which I believe has since been done away with. Removing the page from the category will simply see it struck from the list and unlocked for editing. I may be wrong though, as I'm not really up on all this bureaucratic cack. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 18:20, 10 July 2012 (BST)<br />
::::Groups are no longer deleted. We got rid of the horrendous Crit 12(deletion of defunct groups) in 2007. Only groups that clearly never were or request it get deleted these days. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:57, 11 July 2012 (BST)<br />
:::::Gotcha. So, when a group achieves historical status, we see this at the top of the page: "This historical group is no longer active. However, its wiki page is preserved to reflect the group's significance in Urban Dead history." I guess this was written before Crit 12 was nixed. --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 16:34, 11 July 2012 (BST)<br />
::::::Yup, there's also a template for otherwise inactive groups. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:07, 11 July 2012 (BST)</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Suburb_Historical_Groups&diff=1799534UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Suburb Historical Groups2010-10-22T02:58:13Z<p>Rib15: /* Voting Section */</p>
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<div>One thing that has always been a personal bone of contention to me is the complete lack of guidelines or rules for the listing of groups under the "historical" header on {{Tl|SuburbGroups}}. As such, this policy proposes that the following lines of text be added to the guidelines for the template, and enforced as such:<br />
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*'''Groups may be listed under the 'Historical' heading provided they pass a vote on the suburb's talk page, requiring a one-week voting period, with a 2/3 majority of votes "for" the listing. This is ''not'' connected to [[:Category:Historical Groups]] or its rulings.'''<br />
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The smaller scale of the vote is intended to make it a less stressful matter for those involved, hence the shorter vote period. It is also expected that the smaller 'reward' will lessen misgivings for 'against' voters, but this is just supposition. Archiving of these votes would take place as sub pages of the suburb in question, for example, at [[Kempsterbank/St. Ferreol's Hospital Noise Abatement Society]], etc. The suburb's talk page will include an index of these archives where applicable. <br />
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An exemption to this policy will be those groups who are listed in [[:Category:Historical Groups]], who will have been considered to have passed the necessary vote by nature of passing their vote for that listing. <br />
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This ''will'' affect groups currently listed, as they will be removed pending any votes that can or will be brought, unless exempt under the above clause.<br />
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::<small>Note: Policy amended before voting to remove minimum number of votes</small><br />
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==Voting Section==<br />
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===For===<br />
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#Author vote, blah di blah. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:53, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Seems more sensible then the current free-for-all. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 21:02, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#After reconsidering, I like it.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:58, 22 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===Against===<br />
#Not particularly keen. This'll lead to *sigh* more meatpuppetry, and will mean that wiki regulars who check RC will have enormous amounts of influence in suburbs they've never even heard of. Also the whole retroactive effects thing is stupid.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:57, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:<s>No. Means voting twice for historical status. </s>--{{User:Vapor/sig}} 21:04, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No. The policy lacks any form of rubic / guidance as to what qualities actually make a group suburb-historical, and adds unneeded bureaucracy to something that does not appear to be a large problem. I am having trouble seeing how an arbitrary popular vote based on undefined standards by users who may / may not have any knowledge of the groups / suburbs /time period in question addresses the underlying problem (if there even is a problem). -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 21:23, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I'm actually all for the ''general idea'' of this policy and really want to support it. That said, I'm just against the wording of the exemption clause, and if I had known it was going to voting already, I'd have pointed out my issue earlier. The problem is that there's nothing in this policy to stop every historical group from listing themselves in places they never visited, let alone impacted, and this policy would explicitly give them the right to do so, which is a bad thing. That wording and/or the exemption's idea needs to be tightened up a bit in order to ensure that things of that sort don't occur. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:56, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Giving it its own subpage archive? wtf? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 01:53, 22 October 2010 (BST)</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Suburb_Historical_Groups&diff=1799532UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Suburb Historical Groups2010-10-22T02:46:37Z<p>Rib15: /* Against */</p>
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<div>One thing that has always been a personal bone of contention to me is the complete lack of guidelines or rules for the listing of groups under the "historical" header on {{Tl|SuburbGroups}}. As such, this policy proposes that the following lines of text be added to the guidelines for the template, and enforced as such:<br />
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*'''Groups may be listed under the 'Historical' heading provided they pass a vote on the suburb's talk page, requiring a one-week voting period, with a 2/3 majority of votes "for" the listing. This is ''not'' connected to [[:Category:Historical Groups]] or its rulings.'''<br />
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The smaller scale of the vote is intended to make it a less stressful matter for those involved, hence the shorter vote period. It is also expected that the smaller 'reward' will lessen misgivings for 'against' voters, but this is just supposition. Archiving of these votes would take place as sub pages of the suburb in question, for example, at [[Kempsterbank/St. Ferreol's Hospital Noise Abatement Society]], etc. The suburb's talk page will include an index of these archives where applicable. <br />
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An exemption to this policy will be those groups who are listed in [[:Category:Historical Groups]], who will have been considered to have passed the necessary vote by nature of passing their vote for that listing. <br />
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This ''will'' affect groups currently listed, as they will be removed pending any votes that can or will be brought, unless exempt under the above clause.<br />
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::<small>Note: Policy amended before voting to remove minimum number of votes</small><br />
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==Voting Section==<br />
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===For===<br />
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#Author vote, blah di blah. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:53, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Seems more sensible then the current free-for-all. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 21:02, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===Against===<br />
#Not particularly keen. This'll lead to *sigh* more meatpuppetry, and will mean that wiki regulars who check RC will have enormous amounts of influence in suburbs they've never even heard of. Also the whole retroactive effects thing is stupid.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:57, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:<s>No. Means voting twice for historical status. </s>--{{User:Vapor/sig}} 21:04, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No. The policy lacks any form of rubic / guidance as to what qualities actually make a group suburb-historical, and adds unneeded bureaucracy to something that does not appear to be a large problem. I am having trouble seeing how an arbitrary popular vote based on undefined standards by users who may / may not have any knowledge of the groups / suburbs /time period in question addresses the underlying problem (if there even is a problem). -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 21:23, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I'm actually all for the ''general idea'' of this policy and really want to support it. That said, I'm just against the wording of the exemption clause, and if I had known it was going to voting already, I'd have pointed out my issue earlier. The problem is that there's nothing in this policy to stop every historical group from listing themselves in places they never visited, let alone impacted, and this policy would explicitly give them the right to do so, which is a bad thing. That wording and/or the exemption's idea needs to be tightened up a bit in order to ensure that things of that sort don't occur. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:56, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Giving it its own subpage archive? wtf? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 01:53, 22 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''No'''. I think the current process is already too stringent.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:46, 22 October 2010 (BST)</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1798973Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-21T15:45:22Z<p>Rib15: /* No */</p>
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
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#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
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=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
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==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
The Grove formed out of a loose coalition in Judgewood in the early months of the game's existence. Seeing the need for a combined effort in an area lean on resources, the coalition became The Grove, named for their headquarters, the Brentnal Grove PD. Active in defending nearby Caiger Mall in many of the early seiges, they were a fixture in the NW corner until disbanding in 2009. In addition to their dedicated defence of Judgewood, the group made periodic tours out of their home base, lending a hand in a number of mall seiges. This group fought long and hard in this vulnerable corner, and as a result were one of the first groups to encounter Extinction in their early attempts to dominate the NW, and kept tbeir headquarters a safe haven for survivors.^^^^<br />
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====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
#Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Yeah, maybe. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You [[The_Grove#A_Brief.28ish.29_History|talked me into it]]. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes''' - A great group in the Northwest of Malton, they deserve to be remembered for their efforts in and around Judgewood, as well as everything they did while on tour around the city. A classy survivor group. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:00, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#The page looked suspect. However, they did have some grounds to boast. I'm going to say yes. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 00:58, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''weak yes''' i remember fighting extinstinktion and the dead with these chaps. they were small and kept to themselves but a good group none the less. and yes i remember what color my shit was yesterday.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 17:03, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Super Weak Yes''' - I have never heard of [[The Grove]], but I haven't been up to the NW corner for anything either. Certainly sounds like a group worthy of the historical section on the [[Judgewood]] suburb page, but I leave it to others to make a case for them being historical beyond that. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 07:20, 14 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never knew them personally but they seem like they were a good bunch. {{User:Weeks/Sig}} 01:58, 17 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:'''Move to strike.''' According to the rules, there must be a yes or a no vote. This post has neither. How do you know if this isn't an incorrectly placed Yes? [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 16:25, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:<s>Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)</s><br />
#:<s>I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so.</s> --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#::Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). '''Keepster33''': No trenchcoating here. Just defending Judgewood against often overwhelming odds and a long tour of Malton in 2007 helping out far and wide. I was in the group and have just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No, you've got to be kidding.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:30, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Who?''' - Never expanded very far from their home base, never had many members, never did anything worth remembering. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:37, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Please reconsider your vote. Lots of groups, like the Dribbling Beavers, dedicate themselves to defending a single suburb. The Grove was also involved in the early seiges of Caiger Mall, which are almost universally considered classics. Also, read the summary of the group's 2007 tour of Malton. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 16:19, 21 October 2010 (BST) <br />
#'''Who?''' - --[[User:Thekooks|Kooks]] 23:10, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# An old group is not always a historical one.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 17:41, 14 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:If you carry that reasoning forward, then most museums should throw out large portions of their collections. After all, they're only old kitchen items...I see that FES has historical status. They defended only a single BUILDING!<br />
#Is this a joke? --[[User:Radio|Radio]] 03:31, 17 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You glance at a man with black rimmed glasses. Before you ask him for approval, he says '''''"No."''''' --[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Noted Literature critic, Mead Sheaffer.]] 05:20, 17 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#...Hasn't Judgewood been predominantly ruined until fairly recently? My alt used to run through there last year and never iced one of these fellas. {{User:Criminally Insane/supastampbiatch}} 05:24, 20 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Of course you didn't see them. They're disbanded. That's why they're being considered for historical status.And I just looked: Brentnal Grove PD is operating just fine. The Grove maintained that as a stronghold and the tradition continues.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 16:19, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes, but the page needs to be expanded''' - The Penny Heights OGs were one of the first PKer groups to step forward and say: "Hey, we're a PKer group.", which at that time, was not common. Most groups of that time were still pretending to be pro-survivor, so they enjoy the plausible deniability of being a "survivor group", but could get away with PKing random people. Unfortunately, it seems that their low numbers, a schism in the group (note the leadership change), and the open declaration of being a PKer group, [[Talk:The_Penny_Heights_OGs|hastened their demise]]. Despite being a small group, you can see that they [[Talk:Suburb/archives0#Colours|yellowed Penny Heights]], [[Penny_Heights/News_Archive#2005|took over two hospitals]], and even [[UTF|took a stand]] with [[DARIS]] against the [[Council_of_Leaders_(original)|CoL]]. Also, if you [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Penny_Heights_OGs&action=history look at the history for the page], [[User:Max Grivas|Max Grivas]] was advocating that they be nominated for Historical Groups back in 2007. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:09, 19 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:The blob has eyes?? >.> -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 23:39, 19 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Once again, you have got to be kidding. No.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:31, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Narp. I'm guessing this vote was the biggest impact they ever had on UD. --{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 17:33, 14 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Did they ever exist to begin with? {{User:Weeks/Sig}} 23:34, 16 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1798972Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-21T15:25:27Z<p>Rib15: /* No */</p>
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
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#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
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==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
The Grove formed out of a loose coalition in Judgewood in the early months of the game's existence. Seeing the need for a combined effort in an area lean on resources, the coalition became The Grove, named for their headquarters, the Brentnal Grove PD. Active in defending nearby Caiger Mall in many of the early seiges, they were a fixture in the NW corner until disbanding in 2009. In addition to their dedicated defence of Judgewood, the group made periodic tours out of their home base, lending a hand in a number of mall seiges. This group fought long and hard in this vulnerable corner, and as a result were one of the first groups to encounter Extinction in their early attempts to dominate the NW, and kept tbeir headquarters a safe haven for survivors.^^^^<br />
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====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
#Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Yeah, maybe. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You [[The_Grove#A_Brief.28ish.29_History|talked me into it]]. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes''' - A great group in the Northwest of Malton, they deserve to be remembered for their efforts in and around Judgewood, as well as everything they did while on tour around the city. A classy survivor group. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:00, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#The page looked suspect. However, they did have some grounds to boast. I'm going to say yes. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 00:58, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''weak yes''' i remember fighting extinstinktion and the dead with these chaps. they were small and kept to themselves but a good group none the less. and yes i remember what color my shit was yesterday.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 17:03, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Super Weak Yes''' - I have never heard of [[The Grove]], but I haven't been up to the NW corner for anything either. Certainly sounds like a group worthy of the historical section on the [[Judgewood]] suburb page, but I leave it to others to make a case for them being historical beyond that. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 07:20, 14 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never knew them personally but they seem like they were a good bunch. {{User:Weeks/Sig}} 01:58, 17 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:'''Move to strike.''' According to the rules, there must be a yes or a no vote. This post has neither.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 16:25, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:<s>Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)</s><br />
#:<s>I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so.</s> --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#::Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). '''Keepster33''': No trenchcoating here. Just defending Judgewood against often overwhelming odds and a long tour of Malton in 2007 helping out far and wide. I was in the group and have just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No, you've got to be kidding.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:30, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Who?''' - Never expanded very far from their home base, never had many members, never did anything worth remembering. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:37, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Lots of groups, like the Dribbling Beavers, dedicate themselves to defending a single suburb.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 16:19, 21 October 2010 (BST) <br />
#'''Who?''' - --[[User:Thekooks|Kooks]] 23:10, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# An old group is not always a historical one.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 17:41, 14 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:If you carry that reasoning forward, then most museums should throw out large portions of their collections. After all, they're only old kitchen items...<br />
#Is this a joke? --[[User:Radio|Radio]] 03:31, 17 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You glance at a man with black rimmed glasses. Before you ask him for approval, he says '''''"No."''''' --[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Noted Literature critic, Mead Sheaffer.]] 05:20, 17 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#...Hasn't Judgewood been predominantly ruined until fairly recently? My alt used to run through there last year and never iced one of these fellas. {{User:Criminally Insane/supastampbiatch}} 05:24, 20 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Of course you didn't see them. They're disbanded. That's why they're being considered for historical status.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 16:19, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
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====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes, but the page needs to be expanded''' - The Penny Heights OGs were one of the first PKer groups to step forward and say: "Hey, we're a PKer group.", which at that time, was not common. Most groups of that time were still pretending to be pro-survivor, so they enjoy the plausible deniability of being a "survivor group", but could get away with PKing random people. Unfortunately, it seems that their low numbers, a schism in the group (note the leadership change), and the open declaration of being a PKer group, [[Talk:The_Penny_Heights_OGs|hastened their demise]]. Despite being a small group, you can see that they [[Talk:Suburb/archives0#Colours|yellowed Penny Heights]], [[Penny_Heights/News_Archive#2005|took over two hospitals]], and even [[UTF|took a stand]] with [[DARIS]] against the [[Council_of_Leaders_(original)|CoL]]. Also, if you [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Penny_Heights_OGs&action=history look at the history for the page], [[User:Max Grivas|Max Grivas]] was advocating that they be nominated for Historical Groups back in 2007. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:09, 19 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:The blob has eyes?? >.> -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 23:39, 19 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Once again, you have got to be kidding. No.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:31, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Narp. I'm guessing this vote was the biggest impact they ever had on UD. --{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 17:33, 14 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Did they ever exist to begin with? {{User:Weeks/Sig}} 23:34, 16 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
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#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
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==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
The Grove formed out of a loose coalition in Judgewood in the early months of the game's existence. Seeing the need for a combined effort in an area lean on resources, the coalition became The Grove, named for their headquarters, the Brentnal Grove PD. Active in defending nearby Caiger Mall in many of the early seiges, they were a fixture in the NW corner until disbanding in 2009. In addition to their dedicated defence of Judgewood, the group made periodic tours out of their home base, lending a hand in a number of mall seiges. This group fought long and hard in this vulnerable corner, and as a result were one of the first groups to encounter Extinction in their early attempts to dominate the NW, and kept tbeir headquarters a safe haven for survivors.^^^^<br />
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#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
#Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Yeah, maybe. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You [[The_Grove#A_Brief.28ish.29_History|talked me into it]]. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes''' - A great group in the Northwest of Malton, they deserve to be remembered for their efforts in and around Judgewood, as well as everything they did while on tour around the city. A classy survivor group. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:00, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#The page looked suspect. However, they did have some grounds to boast. I'm going to say yes. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 00:58, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''weak yes''' i remember fighting extinstinktion and the dead with these chaps. they were small and kept to themselves but a good group none the less. and yes i remember what color my shit was yesterday.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 17:03, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Super Weak Yes''' - I have never heard of [[The Grove]], but I haven't been up to the NW corner for anything either. Certainly sounds like a group worthy of the historical section on the [[Judgewood]] suburb page, but I leave it to others to make a case for them being historical beyond that. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 07:20, 14 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never knew them personally but they seem like they were a good bunch. {{User:Weeks/Sig}} 01:58, 17 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:<s>Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)</s><br />
#:<s>I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so.</s> --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#::Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). '''Keepster33''': No trenchcoating here. Just defending Judgewood against often overwhelming odds and a long tour of Malton in 2007 helping out far and wide. I was in the group and have just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No, you've got to be kidding.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:30, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Who?''' - Never expanded very far from their home base, never had many members, never did anything worth remembering. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:37, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Lots of groups, like the Dribbling Beavers, dedicate themselves to defending a single suburb.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 16:19, 21 October 2010 (BST) <br />
#'''Who?''' - --[[User:Thekooks|Kooks]] 23:10, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# An old group is not always a historical one.--{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 17:41, 14 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:If you carry that reasoning forward, then most museums should throw out large portions of their collections. After all, they're only old kitchen items...<br />
#Is this a joke? --[[User:Radio|Radio]] 03:31, 17 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You glance at a man with black rimmed glasses. Before you ask him for approval, he says '''''"No."''''' --[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Noted Literature critic, Mead Sheaffer.]] 05:20, 17 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#...Hasn't Judgewood been predominantly ruined until fairly recently? My alt used to run through there last year and never iced one of these fellas. {{User:Criminally Insane/supastampbiatch}} 05:24, 20 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Of course you didn't see them. They're disbanded. That's why they're being considered for historical status.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 16:19, 21 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
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::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes, but the page needs to be expanded''' - The Penny Heights OGs were one of the first PKer groups to step forward and say: "Hey, we're a PKer group.", which at that time, was not common. Most groups of that time were still pretending to be pro-survivor, so they enjoy the plausible deniability of being a "survivor group", but could get away with PKing random people. Unfortunately, it seems that their low numbers, a schism in the group (note the leadership change), and the open declaration of being a PKer group, [[Talk:The_Penny_Heights_OGs|hastened their demise]]. Despite being a small group, you can see that they [[Talk:Suburb/archives0#Colours|yellowed Penny Heights]], [[Penny_Heights/News_Archive#2005|took over two hospitals]], and even [[UTF|took a stand]] with [[DARIS]] against the [[Council_of_Leaders_(original)|CoL]]. Also, if you [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Penny_Heights_OGs&action=history look at the history for the page], [[User:Max Grivas|Max Grivas]] was advocating that they be nominated for Historical Groups back in 2007. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:09, 19 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:The blob has eyes?? >.> -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 23:39, 19 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Once again, you have got to be kidding. No.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:31, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Narp. I'm guessing this vote was the biggest impact they ever had on UD. --{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 17:33, 14 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Did they ever exist to begin with? {{User:Weeks/Sig}} 23:34, 16 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1794689Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-13T20:00:01Z<p>Rib15: /* The Grove */</p>
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#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
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==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
The Grove formed out of a loose coalition in Judgewood in the early months of the game's existence. Seeing the need for a combined effort in an area lean on resources, the coalition became The Grove, named for their headquarters, the Brentnal Grove PD. Active in defending nearby Caiger Mall in many of the early seiges, they were a fixture in the NW corner until disbanding in 2009. In addition to their dedicated defence of Judgewood, the group made periodic tours out of their home base, lending a hand in a number of mall seiges. This group fought long and hard in this vulnerable corner, and as a result were one of the first groups to encounter Extinction in their early attempts to dominate the NW, and kept tbeir headquarters a safe haven for survivors.^^^^<br />
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====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
#Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Yeah, maybe. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You [[The_Grove#A_Brief.28ish.29_History|talked me into it]]. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes''' - A great group in the Northwest of Malton, they deserve to be remembered for their efforts in and around Judgewood, as well as everything they did while on tour around the city. A classy survivor group. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:00, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#The page looked suspect. However, they did have some grounds to boast. I'm going to say yes. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 00:58, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''weak yes''' i remember fighting extinstinktion and the dead with these chaps. they were small and kept to themselves but a good group none the less. and yes i remember what color my shit was yesterday.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 17:03, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:<s>Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)</s><br />
#<s>I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so.</s> --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). '''Keepster33''': No trenchcoating here. Just defending Judgewood against often overwhelming odds and a long tour of Malton in 2007 helping out far and wide. I was in the group and have just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No, you've got to be kidding.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:30, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Who?''' - Never expanded very far from their home base, never had many members, never did anything worth remembering. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:37, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
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:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Once again, you have got to be kidding. No.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:31, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1794595Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-13T18:50:39Z<p>Rib15: /* The Grove */</p>
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
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When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
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==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
The Grove formed out of a loose coalition in Judgeeood in the early months of the game's existence. Seeing the need for a combined effort in an area lean on resources, the coalition became The Grove, named for their headquarters, the Brentnal Grove PD. Active in defending nearby Caiger Mall in many of the early seiges, they were a fixture in the NW corner until disbanding in 2009. In addition to their dedicated defence of Judgewood, the group made periodic tours out of their home base, lending a hand in a number of mall seiges. This group fought long and hard in this vulnerable corner, and as a result were one of the first groups to encounter Extinction in their early attempts to dominate the NW, and kept tbeir headquarters a safe haven for survivors.^^^^<br />
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====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
#Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Yeah, maybe. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You [[The_Grove#A_Brief.28ish.29_History|talked me into it]]. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes''' - A great group in the Northwest of Malton, they deserve to be remembered for their efforts in and around Judgewood, as well as everything they did while on tour around the city. A classy survivor group. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:00, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#The page looked suspect. However, they did have some grounds to boast. I'm going to say yes. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 00:58, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''weak yes''' i remember fighting extinstinktion and the dead with these chaps. they were small and kept to themselves but a good group none the less. and yes i remember what color my shit was yesterday.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 17:03, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:<s>Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)</s><br />
#<s>I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so.</s> --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). '''Keepster33''': No trenchcoating here. Just defending Judgewood against often overwhelming odds and a long tour of Malton in 2007 helping out far and wide. I was in the group and have just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No, you've got to be kidding.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:30, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Who?''' - Never expanded very far from their home base, never had many members, never did anything worth remembering. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:37, 13 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Once again, you have got to be kidding. No.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:31, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1794265Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T22:07:52Z<p>Rib15: /* No */</p>
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
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=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
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==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
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{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
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====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
#Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Yeah, maybe. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You [[The_Grove#A_Brief.28ish.29_History|talked me into it]]. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes''' - A great group in the Northwest of Malton, they deserve to be remembered for their efforts in and around Judgewood, as well as everything they did while on tour around the city. A classy survivor group. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:00, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:<s>Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)</s><br />
#I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). '''Keepster33''': No trenchcoating here. Just defending Judgewood against often overwhelming odds and a long tour of Malton in 2007 helping out far and wide. I was in the group and have just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No, you've got to be kidding.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:30, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Once again, you have got to be kidding. No.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:31, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1794261Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T21:57:56Z<p>Rib15: /* No */</p>
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
<br clear=both /><br />
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=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
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==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
<br />
====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
#Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Yeah, maybe. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You [[The_Grove#A_Brief.28ish.29_History|talked me into it]]. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes''' - A great group in the Northwest of Malton, they deserve to be remembered for their efforts in and around Judgewood, as well as everything they did while on tour around the city. A classy survivor group. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:00, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:<s>Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)</s><br />
#I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). '''Keepster33''': No trenchcoating here. Just defending Judgewood against often overwhelming odds and a long tour of Malton [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/The_Grove/Tour_of_Malton]in 2007 helping out far and wide. I was in the group and have just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No, you've got to be kidding.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:30, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Once again, you have got to be kidding. No.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:31, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
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=Previous Discussions=<br />
There are 3 archives for this page.<br />
==General Discussion==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=Archive}}<br />
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{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=SucceededArchive}}<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1794247Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T21:15:48Z<p>Rib15: /* No */</p>
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
<br clear=both /><br />
<br />
=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
<br />
==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
<br />
====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
#Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Yeah, maybe. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You [[The_Grove#A_Brief.28ish.29_History|talked me into it]]. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''Yes''' - A great group in the Northwest of Malton, they deserve to be remembered for their efforts in and around Judgewood, as well as everything they did while on tour around the city. A classy survivor group. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:00, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:<s>Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)</s><br />
#I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). '''Keepster33''': No trenchcoating here. Just defending Judgewood against often overwhelming odds and a long tour of Malton helping out wherever they could. I was in the group and just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No, you've got to be kidding.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:30, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Once again, you have got to be kidding. No.-[[User:Fallout11|Fallout11]] 21:31, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The Grove]]===<br />
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====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
#Absolutely. The Grove are the stuff of legends in these parts. Well, maybe not legends, but they're still very notable around here. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 09:20, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Yeah, maybe. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:27, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You [[The_Grove#A_Brief.28ish.29_History|talked me into it]]. True I'd never heard of them, but they apparently hit 28th on the stat page at one time and they look and feel like one of those old school groups that formed organically in game. Nice little slice of UD history.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 11:51, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Borderline, but as a long-time resident of Judgewood, sure. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've heard of you, but I don't think you're at all notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 08:12, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 12:06, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Is this Shit Nominations Month or something? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 15:23, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Anyone from the Northwest should have been aware of them and their influence in the area. They're just one of those groups that had a decently large impact in the areas they helped out, and had lots of cool people with them. That said, last I checked, they don't meet #6 above (i.e. they haven't been disbanded for at least 4 months). Can someone from The Grove confirm that they have indeed been inactive for 4 months already? I've only seen their former group members start joining new groups as of a week or two ago, so I was under the impression that was when they had disbanded (but since they were on tour for so long before that, I may have just missed it). If someone can confirm it for me, I'll switch my vote to a Yes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:29, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I don't know. This is a very weak no. Only on the grounds that this seems like a trenchcoater group. If anyone can confirm or deny this please do so. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 20:35, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Hi, thanks for the questions. Aichon: Bilko disbanded the group on their forums in August of 2009. He said: "As the last remaining Elder in game I guess it's up to me to lock up the place. I wish all the people I've met in game good luck and a happy life. Thanks for the fun. Darryl (Bilko). Keepster33: No trenchcoating here. I was in the group and just got back on after an overlong absence and found the place shut down. They were good people and deserve to be remembered. The USAI and Cannonball Crew were among their allies. Hope this helps.[[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 21:17, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
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:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
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#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
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===[[The Grove]]===<br />
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====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well. Anyone who spent any appreciable time in Judgewood would know this. [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
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====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
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=Previous Discussions=<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1793916Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T03:00:24Z<p>Rib15: /* Yes */</p>
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
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=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
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==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
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{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
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====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15<br />
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====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
<br />
=Previous Discussions=<br />
There are 3 archives for this page.<br />
==General Discussion==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=Archive}}<br />
==Voting Succeeded==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=SucceededArchive}}<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1793915Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T02:59:58Z<p>Rib15: /* The Grove */</p>
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
<br clear=both /><br />
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=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
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==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
<br />
====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well# [[User:Rib15|Rib15]] 03:59, 12 October 2010 (BST) - Rib15 <br />
====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
<br />
=Previous Discussions=<br />
There are 3 archives for this page.<br />
==General Discussion==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=Archive}}<br />
==Voting Succeeded==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=SucceededArchive}}<br />
==Voting Failed==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=FailedArchive}}<br />
<br />
=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1793914Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T02:58:13Z<p>Rib15: /* The Grove */</p>
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<div>{{TOCleft}}<br />
=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
<br clear=both /><br />
<br />
=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
<br />
==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
<br />
====Yes====<br />
#Yes. This group protected Judgewood long and well - Rib15 <br />
====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
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=Previous Discussions=<br />
There are 3 archives for this page.<br />
==General Discussion==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=Archive}}<br />
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{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=SucceededArchive}}<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1793913Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T02:56:38Z<p>Rib15: /* No */</p>
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
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=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
<br />
==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
<br />
====Yes====<br />
====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
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=Previous Discussions=<br />
There are 3 archives for this page.<br />
==General Discussion==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=Archive}}<br />
==Voting Succeeded==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=SucceededArchive}}<br />
==Voting Failed==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=FailedArchive}}<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1793912Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T02:56:09Z<p>Rib15: /* The Grove */</p>
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=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
<br clear=both /><br />
<br />
=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
<br />
==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
<br />
====Yes====<br />
====No====<br />
#I say, who are you? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:53, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#This is beyond a joke. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:54, 12 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No offense, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about<br />
<br />
===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
<br />
=Previous Discussions=<br />
There are 3 archives for this page.<br />
==General Discussion==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=Archive}}<br />
==Voting Succeeded==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=SucceededArchive}}<br />
==Voting Failed==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=FailedArchive}}<br />
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=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1793907Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T02:53:51Z<p>Rib15: /* New Nominations */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{TOCleft}}<br />
=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
<br clear=both /><br />
<br />
=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
<br />
==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
====No====<br />
===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
<br />
=Previous Discussions=<br />
There are 3 archives for this page.<br />
==General Discussion==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=Archive}}<br />
==Voting Succeeded==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=SucceededArchive}}<br />
==Voting Failed==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=FailedArchive}}<br />
<br />
=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1793906Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T02:53:19Z<p>Rib15: /* New Nominations */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{TOCleft}}<br />
=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
<br clear=both /><br />
<br />
=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
<br />
==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
<br />
====Yes====<br />
<br />
====No====<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
====No====<br />
===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
<br />
=Previous Discussions=<br />
There are 3 archives for this page.<br />
==General Discussion==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=Archive}}<br />
==Voting Succeeded==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=SucceededArchive}}<br />
==Voting Failed==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=FailedArchive}}<br />
<br />
=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1793904Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T02:52:33Z<p>Rib15: /* New Nominations */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{TOCleft}}<br />
=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
<br clear=both /><br />
<br />
=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
<br />
==New Nominations==<br />
===[[The Grove]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
<br />
=Previous Discussions=<br />
There are 3 archives for this page.<br />
==General Discussion==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=Archive}}<br />
==Voting Succeeded==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=SucceededArchive}}<br />
==Voting Failed==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=FailedArchive}}<br />
<br />
=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1793903Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T02:51:49Z<p>Rib15: /* New Nominations */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{TOCleft}}<br />
=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
<br clear=both /><br />
<br />
=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
<br />
==New Nominations==<br />
[[The Grove]]<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
==Recent Nominations==<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''<br />
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
<br />
=Previous Discussions=<br />
There are 3 archives for this page.<br />
==General Discussion==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=Archive}}<br />
==Voting Succeeded==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=SucceededArchive}}<br />
==Voting Failed==<br />
{{ArchiveNoticeSmall|ArchiveName=FailedArchive}}<br />
<br />
=Historical Groups Use Discussion=</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=1793902Category talk:Historical Groups2010-10-12T02:51:16Z<p>Rib15: /* New Nominations */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{TOCleft}}<br />
=Obtaining Historical Status=<br />
A [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Historical_Groups|policy]] is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.<br />
{|<br />
|<br />
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.<br />
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].<br />
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.<br />
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.<br />
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.<br />
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)<br />
|}<br />
<br clear=both /><br />
<br />
=Nominations for Historical Status=<br />
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.<br />
<br />
==New Nominations==<br />
The Grove<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
===[[The_Penny_Heights_OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]]===<br />
{{HistoricalVotingRules}}<br />
====Yes====<br />
:{{s|1=they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]]}}<br />
::No timestamp vote struck. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:13, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
<br />
#Not quite the level of impact of a group like DARIS but unique enough in my mind during the early stages of UD that they shouldn't be left to rot in the dust. Strike this. -[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:26, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Fine, here we go again, timestaped: they were loud on the old Proboards Forums way back in 2005. Several historical pages link to them. [[User:Zombeater|Zombeater]] 20:28, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:I fixed your entry so it doesn't mess up the counting. Not that the "Yes" section will need a lot of counting.-[[User:MHSstaff|MHSstaff]] 20:29, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#:Two links out of the fifteen links are historical, but regardless, having links on the pages of historical groups/coalitions does not make a group historical. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
====No====<br />
#Never heard of 'em, and they have no real achievements. Moving on... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#What a joke. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 20:04, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them, and If AH hasn't either, they probably weren't that notable.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#It's enough that the [[United Territories Federation]] is historical. Plus Who? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:18, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#No thanks. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 20:33, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Not heard if them, + they are small--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 20:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Who. The. Fuck? --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 21:38, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#To quote the Bard, "Who?" {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:12, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've had characters in PH for years, and I've never once heard a mention of this group. [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 22:35, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/l}} 22:46, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# It appears that during their time in UD a mere 5 wiki users ever had cause to comment on their talk page, and then it was only to remark that the group didn't appear to exist. This, and comments from others asking "who?" would indicate they haven't made the kind of impact on the game that is generally deemed necessary for historical status consideration.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:23, 6 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# '''Spam''' - We need a better system of trashing these idiotic claims for fame. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:09, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who? What? Why? There's not anything remarkable in any of those categories. No. --[[User:Keepster33|keepster33]] 03:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#'''poop''' as everybody else.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 04:16, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#I've never heard of them either... --[[User:Colette Hart|Colette Hart]] 06:27, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Sorry, the historical significance of this group cannot be found at the moment. Please leave a '''NARP''' after the beep. Beep. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#You know, most groups vying for historical status at least include a summary of what they've accomplished here. Was there nothing to say? --[[User:Shatari|Shatari]] 18:15, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
#Can't say that they were that important, or at least important enough to be historical. They were pretty obnoxious as I recall, on a specific forum I lost the link to.--[[User:Officer Mead Sheaffer|Mead]] 23:46, 7 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Oh Glorious Blob, give me guidance as I vote on...on...ermmm...pssst, Marinus, who are these guys again? Ahh yes, the Penny Heights something or other. *The Blob simply Stares and blinks once or twice.*...I take that as a No then? Very well. NO. --[[User:Dr summeroff|Dr summeroff]] 00:22, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# I would never vote for an Olive Grove, no matter where its located! --[[User:Justin Scott|Justin]] 01:50, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Who?--[[User:VinnyMendoza|VinnyMendoza]] 02:16, 8 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# [[User:Kilroy8675309|Kilroy8675309]] 19:07, 9 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# no, no, no... no --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 00:40, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# No, never heard of 'em.. --[[User:KujiMuji|KujiMuji]] 1:36, 10 October 2010 (BST)<br />
# Never heard of them. They don't seem to be making a large enough impression in the game. --[[User:Citric union|Citric union]] 17:42, 11 October 2010 (BST)<br />
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==Recent Nominations==<br />
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*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''<br />
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=Welcome=<br />
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Please make a second level headline; A.K.A. use two equals signs at each end. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 00:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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Second time of archivin' done. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 00:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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==Your second leave of absence==<br />
Are you planning to actually stick to it this time? --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 02:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Arbitration==<br />
Been trying to post this for a while, but you protected your page. Just to let you know (though you probably do already) your arbitration case with Cyberbob has been ruled on.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 11:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Rule==<br />
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Hey, I noticed you asked me for help on a rule wording about a month ago. Sorry I didn't get back to you, I was taking a self-imposed leave of absence from the wiki. --[[User:Jon Pyre|Jon Pyre]] 18:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==I want you to know==<br />
That you're an idiot. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[Caiger Resistance Front|CRF]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 00:52, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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1+1=2 --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 08:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==So u r gone==<br />
I hear u r gone and not planning to cum back.... u nuts ? pff, weak. Can i keep your cookies and mudkipz ? --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 01:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:lol nub lrn2spel. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
::You're going? :(--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 18:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::What? Don't let people bully you off Nali, it's what they would want. Stick around and plaaay. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 18:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah. You should probably stay.....(But if you do go, can I have all your stuff? Don't give em to Haggie, He won't appreciate them!)--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 18:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I dibs zah mudkipz! --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 19:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::danm your Mudkipz bidding rights!--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 21:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Hey, don't leave! There are tons of cookies to eat! <small>And Mukips to kill</small>--{{:User:Airborne88/sig}} 08:48, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::You're a fucking idiot, you know that? --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 09:55, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::::::Ya, most likely a bit of an asshole (''drunk asshole''). But, not an idiot. If I were an idiot, I would have been banned by now. So, what is your point?--{{:User:Airborne88/sig}} 10:14, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::You responded to a nearly-month-old conversation with nothing inane comments and shitty attempts at memes. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 11:14, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::Well, I was going to tell him he had a really cool looking user page. Then I see that he has been ran off like so many other users. I have seen elsewhere on the wiki where he has been a good contributer and it is a shame he feels he is not welcome here anymore. So, is showing support for a user insane and sh@tty? If it is I am sorry.--{{:User:Airborne88/sig}} 16:59, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::Apology accepted. Nalikill was never a good contributor. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 17:06, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::::<nowiki>* MEEEE *</nowiki> Wrong. Nalikill was a good contributor, he only had a poor start and antagonized with the wrong folk on the wiki. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 13:31, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::::Who died and gave you the final word? --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 15:08, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::::::Arthur C. Clarke. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 15:22, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::::::har har har har har har har har har har har --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 15:36, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::::::::I read about that. Shame. :( but yeah, Nali was unfortunately good at pissing off the wrong people and tended to not compramise a whole lot. He got on the sharp end of a half-dozen vandal reports for some increadably minor offences. I think he basicaly felt that the atmosphere went rather against him. It happens, unfortunately.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 17:22, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::::::There was also the matter of being an annoying little twat who just could not grasp the concept of self-control. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 17:52, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::::Couldn't have said it better myself.<br />
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== so i hear ==<br />
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ur not commin back. this makes a mudkipz sad --<small>—The preceding [[Special:Listusers/sysop|signed]] comment was added by [[User:Hagnat|Hagnat]] ([[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hagnat|contribs]]) at</small> 19:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Nalikill&diff=1436823User talk:Nalikill2009-04-19T21:23:45Z<p>Rib15: /* So u r gone */</p>
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<div>{{User:Nalikill/header}}<br />
<br />
=Welcome=<br />
__FORCETOC__<br />
Please make a second level headline; A.K.A. use two equals signs at each end. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 00:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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Second time of archivin' done. {{User:Nalikill/Sig}} 00:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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==Your second leave of absence==<br />
Are you planning to actually stick to it this time? --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 02:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Arbitration==<br />
Been trying to post this for a while, but you protected your page. Just to let you know (though you probably do already) your arbitration case with Cyberbob has been ruled on.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 11:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Rule==<br />
<br />
Hey, I noticed you asked me for help on a rule wording about a month ago. Sorry I didn't get back to you, I was taking a self-imposed leave of absence from the wiki. --[[User:Jon Pyre|Jon Pyre]] 18:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==I want you to know==<br />
That you're an idiot. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[ The Ridleybank Resistance Front|RRF]] [[DORIS]] [[Caiger Resistance Front|CRF]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 00:52, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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1+1=2 --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 08:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==So u r gone==<br />
I hear u r gone and not planning to cum back.... u nuts ? pff, weak. Can i keep your cookies and mudkipz ? --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 01:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:lol nub lrn2spel. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
::You're going? :(--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 18:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::What? Don't let people bully you off Nali, it's what they would want. Stick around and plaaay. --[[User:Akule|Akule]] <sup>School's in session. </sup> 18:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah. You should probably stay.....(But if you do go, can I have all your stuff? Don't give em to Haggie, He won't appreciate them!)--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 18:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I dibs zah mudkipz! --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 19:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::::danm your Mudkipz bidding rights!--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 21:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Hey, don't leave! There are tons of cookies to eat! <small>And Mukips to kill</small>--{{:User:Airborne88/sig}} 08:48, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::You're a fucking idiot, you know that? --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 09:55, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::::::Ya, most likely a bit of an asshole (''drunk asshole''). But, not an idiot. If I were an idiot, I would have been banned by now. So, what is your point?--{{:User:Airborne88/sig}} 10:14, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::You responded to a nearly-month-old conversation with nothing inane comments and shitty attempts at memes. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 11:14, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::Well, I was going to tell him he had a really cool looking user page. Then I see that he has been ran off like so many other users. I have seen elsewhere on the wiki where he has been a good contributer and it is a shame he feels he is not welcome here anymore. So, is showing support for a user insane and sh@tty? If it is I am sorry.--{{:User:Airborne88/sig}} 16:59, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::Apology accepted. Nalikill was never a good contributor. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 17:06, 30 March 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::::<nowiki>* MEEEE *</nowiki> Wrong. Nalikill was a good contributor, he only had a poor start and antagonized with the wrong folk on the wiki. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 13:31, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::::Who died and gave you the final word? --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 15:08, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::::::Arthur C. Clarke. --{{User:Hagnat/sig}} 15:22, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::::::har har har har har har har har har har har --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 15:36, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
:::::::::::::::::I read about that. Shame. :( but yeah, Nali was unfortunately good at pissing off the wrong people and tended to not compramise a whole lot. He got on the sharp end of a half-dozen vandal reports for some increadably minor offences. I think he basicaly felt that the atmosphere went rather against him. It happens, unfortunately.--{{User:Seventythree/Sig}} 17:22, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::::::There was also the matter of being an annoying little twat who just could not grasp the concept of self-control. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [[CGR]] [[Project UnWelcome|U!]]</sup> 17:52, 31 March 2008 (BST)<br />
::::::::::::::::Couldn't have said it better myself.<br />
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== so i hear ==<br />
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ur not commin back. this makes a mudkipz sad --<small>—The preceding [[Special:Listusers/sysop|signed]] comment was added by [[User:Hagnat|Hagnat]] ([[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hagnat|contribs]]) at</small> 19:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)</div>Rib15https://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:DangerReport/Mitchem_Mall&diff=1378372User:DangerReport/Mitchem Mall2009-02-02T04:30:10Z<p>Rib15: </p>
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