Category talk:Current Suggestions

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This page is for discussion about the page Category:Current Suggestions. This is not the place for discussing new suggestions. Putting a suggestion up for discussion can be done here. Discussion about the suggestions system in general takes place here. New topics go at the top. Archives of the discussions can be found here.

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Combine Current and Previous Day's Suggestions

With the low number of suggestions being made these days, I think it would be best if we removed the previous days suggestions section, and just allowed all suggestions (that arn't removed for other reasons) to remain in the main section until cycled -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:04 28 February 2009 (BST)

I concur. --  AHLGTG 02:09, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. The difference I find helpful, as do other users that are undecided and wish to wait on the community's opinions. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 02:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

How does having the two sections (one of which is often empty anyway if it's being cycled regularly) help make up your mind? -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:54 28 February 2009 (BST)

I'm torn. I can see the logic in what Boxy says, but the category is there for a reason, and Iscariot has a point. Linkthewindow  Talk  02:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to agree with Iscariot on this on. Some people don't get a chance to look in every day or two, so it's nice for those people to see what's new-ish and what's been up for a few days already. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 10:49, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

The listing includes the date the suggestion was made, plus they're in chronological order (or at least should be). --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 12:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd go for this:

  • Suggestions volume is not what it once was thanks in no small part to the revamped Developing Suggestions.
  • Doing this would make it easier to view all the suggestions currently up for voting via the handy "Current Suggestions" template included on them all.
  • And ultimately, I'm a fan of productive laziness. :)

ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 12:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

The current format is too long if we're going to start keeping them on the list until they close. IMO one suggestion shouldn't take more than one row. Perhaps move to a similar (table) format as Recently Closed Suggestions? --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 09:00, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Just in case folks aren't checking the appropriate page, there's discussion related to this topic here. Please comment if you have an opinion one way or the other. It affects more than just this page (e.g. the templates included on suggestion pages and the like), hence why it wasn't posted here. Aichon 00:14, 22 September 2010 (BST)

Humorous Suggestions

What does everyone think about putting humorous suggestions in the wiki news? It could be done exactly like current suggestions:
A new Humorous Suggestion has been submitted. All users are encouraged to vote here.
On the one hand I could see it being spamish, on the other, it might be refreshing and fun.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 01:14, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

No. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 01:17, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
No. Why would serious suggestions be contained to Current Suggestions whilst crap gets preference and gets put onto the Main Page? No. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:23, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Current Suggestions aren't listed, so why should we do it for humorous ones? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 02:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I thought for sure I'd seen "Several game changes are being suggested. All users are encouraged to vote here" at one time. But if it was a hallucination or just an exception then I agree. Humorous suggestions shouldn't get special treatment over the real ones.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 12:23, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
On a similar(ish) note, perhaps noting the presence of multiple suggestions in voting in the news section would be in order. For example, there's currently a few suggestions open, while normally it's quite tumbleweedy. News-ing the fact that there's several open for voting might encourage a more diverse voter pool. We're coming to get you, Barbara 17:41, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm still not fond of it. Although we do need a more diverse cross-section of voters on suggestions, most newbies don't read the whole page, and wouldn't even see that new suggestions were up. As far as I can tell, people go straight to the suburb/skill pages when they're starting off. Then comes groups. Some people end up at suggestions quite early, but I don't see the news section making the difference.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:34, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
It would be more for the benefit of those who already would vote, but don't regularly check what's there to be voted on. I know at least a few guys who occasionally drop in their input but only when guided towards something. Making a little notice of it might catch the attention of a few more of those types. We're coming to get you, Barbara 18:38, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I'll have to agree to Misanthropy here. Moar voaterz are betterz, in general.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 18:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
It would be a simple thing to list new suggestions on the main page (or anywhere else) automatically, but simply making a section for it, and including {{:Category:Current Suggestions}} to list any new additions as they happen -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:34 20 November 2009 (BST)
I don't think your idea would be damaging or bad Boxy, but I also believe that everyone who is interested in voting has Current Suggestions in their watchlist. What would that list do, other than provide eye-spam? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 22:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm certain some people do not. I, for instance, do not.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:29, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Because 1. the average serious suggestion is of no better quality than the average humorous one and 2. Posting on the humorous suggestions page is rarer (only about one a month) than current suggestions (1-2 per week.) so it doesn't matter so much if it is spammy. --Explodey 02:07, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Suggestions have a (supposed) purpose; humorous ones don't. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 02:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
It's true that humorous suggestions don't have an in-game purpose. However, one of the better qualities of this wiki is in it's entertainment value. Sometimes you just want to say something funny or utterly stupid. In those cases, it would be nice if humorous suggestions got a little bit of love, like showing up in Current Suggestions. Having just written one myself, I found the process of submitting a humorous suggestion to be very unsatisfying.
Also Explodey's point is well taken, and there are a crap ton of very unfunny humorous suggestions. It would be nice to put HS up for a vote in a timely manner and move them through to peer reviewed/unfunny archive just like regular suggestions. That would clean out the duds and create an enjoyable peer reviewed section to read.
Finally, this might discourage some vandalism by providing an outlet for people who wanted the attention of making a humorous suggestion and having others vote on it.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 12:04, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Humorous vandalism happens once every 6 months and we have enough trouble cycling other "fundamentally important" sections of the wiki's voting systems already, why add this to those? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
For the love of the game.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 15:30, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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