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This is an archive for nominations of groups that failed to reach historical status between 2006 and 2009.

Guardians of the YRC

I am nominating Guardians of the YRC for historical group status for the following reasons: it was mostly due to their contribution that Yagoton was one of the safest suburbs in Malton at that time. Also, they were the first group to publicly protest against the RG. Lastly, the group founder, Gasbanit brought Urbandead notoriety in the blogosphere.Axel27 13:51, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

  1. Against - Zergers get no recognition here. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 13:56, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  2. Yes - For the reasons mentioned above.Axel27 13:58, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  3. Against - Never heard of them, but a look over the page shows me I'm glad I haven't. Nothing to be done! 14:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
    They were active in 2006 and early 2007. Axel27 15:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  4. Against. having read the article linked from the groups talk page I don't know why we should be rewarding them for what they did. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:38, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  5. Against - Zergers. --Private Mark 15:53, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  6. Against - Oh, I say. Who were these fellows again? -- Adward  16:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  7. Against - After a very interesting read, it has to be said, I can't find much that makes the group noteworthy other than it is built off Zerging. Which is bad. --RahrahCome join the #party!16:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  8. Against – Zergs Not Welcome. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 17:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  9. Strongly Against - Who? And WTF? Everyone should read this the link here. Immature, selfish, clueless, not historical, not even a group.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:34, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
    Yes, because giving it more links for Google to add to its rating is a good idea... -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 17:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
    I didn't consider google. I just thought it important for anyone voting to know the score.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
    It's linked on their page, the guy's page and talk page and everywhere else he can. He's trying to push the rating up, might want to 'unlink' that bit of your post. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 17:45, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
    This? --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 18:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC
    Done.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 18:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
    Fuck Google. Get a life. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 18:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  10. Fuck Off --Paddy DignamIS DEAD 17:39, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  11. Nay - Even when ignoring the self-admitted zerging, this group hasn't really made an impact or sufficiently contributed to Malton history.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 18:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  12. No - GTFO. --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  13. No --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 18:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  14. No - I never heard of them other then what i saw on the zerg list ;) -- Emot-argh.gif 18:56, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  15. No - To quote C. Montgomery Burns, "Who the Hell are you?" --Papa Moloch 19:51, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  16. Nay - You shall not pass. Aichon 19:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
    On ne passe pas!--RahrahCome join the #party!21:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  17. No Is for Niggers--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 21:33, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  18. No - <insert witty and mildly condescending remark here> --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 21:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  19. No - The only thing that I can recall about this group is zerg-related. --ZsL 00:09, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  20. No - Zergs. --Haliman - Talk 00:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  21. Yes - I can't find any good zerg players in StarCraft anymore-- SA 00:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Emot-argh.gif Nothing to be done! 00:44, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    SA, we've talked about this before. Despite the fact that they both have a hive mind, the Zerg in StarCraft are not the same as the ones in Urban Dead. You really should know better by now. Aichon 00:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    But, but.... ;_;-- SA 00:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Against - Frankly I'm surprised anybody remembered this, much less considered it worthy of historical status. The GoYRC, in the end, was nothing but smoke, mirrors and zerglings, propped up by multiple network connections and an overzealous wiki presence. As I said in the post so graciously linked above, I never came back to UD, and I still take full (unapologetic) responsibility for my actions. Nice to see the game is still suffering from the same brokeassedness it was when I turned down the dark path, though. Reaffirms, in my mind, I did the right thing, have no regrets, and was also right not to "go straight" and keep playing with a new character. Honestly, you guys can just delete the GoYRC page for all I care, but hey, Axel, thanks for the gesture. If any of you are playing Warhammer Online on Gorfang, look me up. I run a guild there, and I promise I'm not playing multiple accounts ;) --Gasbandit(Talk | GoYRC) Invalid sig -- boxy talkteh rulz 05:57 5 December 2009 (BST)
    You're welcome, bro. You played an important part in UD history and I think everyone should acknowledge that.Axel27 08:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  22. No too much suck.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 02:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  23. No Who the hell are they? --Kelly_U RR talk 05:07, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  24. No - Only PK zergs get historical. Congrat's Yagoton, one more zerg group -- boxy talkteh rulz 05:57 5 December 2009 (BST)
    Why the apostrophe? Axel27 08:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Congrat's is a contraction of the word congratulations, the apostrophe replaces the missing letters -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:22 5 December 2009 (BST)
    Congrats doesn't use an apostrophe; it's an exception to the rule. Cyberbob  Talk  11:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    "Congrats" is slang, so it isn't an exception to the rule; it's an intentional, but common, departure from the rule. Technically, he's correct, since it is a contraction, but I've never seen it done that way. Aichon 11:46, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    It's a sociologically-conceived exception :smug: Cyberbob  Talk  11:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    I've always been a bit of a prescriptivist when it comes to grammar, so long as it's not unwieldy. Aichon 11:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    You do know spelling and grammar are two different things, right?Axel27 12:21, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Oh, explains why you're a nazi about one but you suck at the other. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:22, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    You do know that contractions fall under the purview of grammar, right? Aichon 12:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Don't post. Cyberbob  Talk  12:28, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Congratulations is plural, when shortening you do not add an apostrophe or it would indicate a possessive. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 12:34, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    It's only a plural when used as a noun; it is more commonly used as an interjection. Cyberbob  Talk  12:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Can everyone give it a fucking rest? Boxy was obviously wrong, the question is, why is everyone's attention being drawn to something so trivial when the user is just as bad at English as those he preaches against? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:39, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Irony is just a five letter word to you, isn't it? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 12:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Irony Def: Kind of iron like --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    I invite you to explain why you are obeying these rules constitutes a difference with Cheese's rules explains the difference between what you're saying and precedence's example. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Are you aware of how drunk I was when I wrote that? Jesus, I'm surprised I didn't accidentally stick it in an email to whoever the President was back then. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 12:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    So you keep professing; no fucking excuse. I am drunk off my tits right now and even the worst english-speaking noobs, when drunk, don't fail that incredibly hard. You aren't the english language incarnate. Deal with it, you fucking prig. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    Well, I may, or may not have been wrong, but meh. I like using arn't instead of aren't as well, and people can usually understand what I'm writing regardless. Pity there's no talk page to this talk page really -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:08 5 December 2009 (BST)
    Just pull a Karek and delete the entire convo! --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:09, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    He doesn't need a raeson. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:01, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  25. Against - Who? --Hkl.png.Ryanon.Tophat.png [Talk] [HKL] [/zom/] [Red Rum]--15:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    The Guardians of the YRC-Axel27 17:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  26. Against - Who? --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 18:07, 5 December 2009 (BST)
  27. No - --Hibernaculum 20:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  28. Against - Zerg --KyleStyle 20:33, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  29. No - what makes you historical. Weren't even good zergers ... Delusional maybe, then again I got you beat on that one. Matt Aries 20:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
  30. Yes You are part of the games history even if it is just for zerging--C Whitty 20:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
  31. No - Zergers are not historical.--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
  32. No - Only ever heard of their zerging. Linkthewindow  Talk  12:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
  33. For - If only because he wants to be Historical so badly that he deleted all the Yes votes. Good stuff. Also: My "For" means "Against". --DTPraise KnowledgePK 04:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
  34. Against - I follow DT to the ends of the Earth. The flat ends. --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 04:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
    The earth isn't flat! You're silly. I like you. :3 -- SA 13:35, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
  35. Against - Because I want to join the hate train. Whoo whoo! RinKou 07:06, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
  36. for- Please see DT's post!--Roland 00:50, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
  37. Against- Foolish group.--Kooks 14:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
  38. Against- Never heard of them.---JackFail 3:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
  39. No - Total gayboobs. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 18:44, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, i never really expected this group to get historical. I just stumbled upon its wiki page by chance, read the article linked there, had a laugh and nominated it for the lulz.--Axel27 08:56, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Failed. --

09:47, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


nominating for historical wiki group. Many users from this group ended up becoming sysops and strong contributors for this wiki. During the existance of this group, the antics of their members lead to drama (heh) and somehow helped improve the rules that guide us all. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 16:20, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

  1. Aye - for some reasons i thought we were deleting 'historical group', but we are rather deleting 'confimed groups'. Therefore, Assylum should have a chance to acchive historical status --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 16:20, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  2. Aye-- SA 16:40, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  3. No Shouldn't be mixed in with historical groups that actually did stuff in game beyond a little radio spam. --Papa Johnny 22:50, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yes - No idea who these guys are, but they sound like total geniuses. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:52, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  5. Yea -Sheep vote From what I have read about them they seem to be Historical enough.--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
    Nay - I agree with later voters. (e.g Aichon) --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:57, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  6. Nay - I haven't seen any evidence of in-game activity of historical significance. I do admit that their wiki shenanigans are somewhat humorous, but wiki actions have nothing to do with historical status. I'd love to vote Yea, since I also know a few of the group members, but I can't. Aichon 23:42, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
    You can and you should. If this passes, a whole month of me being nice! What more could you want?-- SA 11:59, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
    A free Tibet, a supreme stuffed crust pizza, a new computer, another four hours of sleep, and a Rhodesian ridgeback puppy, off the top of my head. I'll compile a list for you later of other things I want. Besides, you've always been nothing but nice to me, and I get a laugh out of you being mean to others. :) Aichon 15:28, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
    But...but... :(-- SA 20:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
    <3 u! Aichon 21:05, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
  7. No - As Johnny, Aichon and Iscariot. This nomination should just be removed. --Papa Moloch 23:46, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  8. No - Who?-- | T | BALLS! | 00:56 17 November 2009(BST)
  9. Nay - Aichon said it best.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 08:50, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
  10. No Was there another group with the same name? Asheets 21:15, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
  11. No The nominator can't even spell "achieve" correctly. And the group has nothing to prove it's importance on its wiki or in game. Criminally Insane Talk | LoD 22:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
    Uh, har? Nothing to prove its importance on the wiki? We are the wiki. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:15, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
  12. No - The group was a notoriously massive spam-fest, but they didn't really have any in-game activity that I can recall. --ZsL 23:30, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
  13. Nay - Wiki activity may or may not supplement a group's viability as a historical group. But I've never even heard of this group, let alone know of anything historical/unique that they did in-game. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 06:27, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
  14. No - Lack of in-game achievements. Garum 08:39, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
  15. No - do i even need to justify this? --~~~~ [talk] 18:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
  16. No. I have never heard of them, and I have been here a LONG time --Roland 00:32, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  17. No --Hibernaculum 01:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  18. no as above----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 14:43, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

This is an invalid nomination, the policy specifically states groups that no longer contribute to the game, this means they must have at some point contributed to the game. Note, the game, not a game resource, RG mods are not applicable for historical status, Assylum isn't either. This is Hagnat's bad faith attempt to shore up a category he created against policy as a vanity exercise. This nomination needs removing for these reasons. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 16:25, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

We spammed a bunch of shit on the radios with Ghetto Cow support.-- SA 16:39, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Hehehe. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:52, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
"you accused another user of pure bad faith.... you could get someone perma-banned pulling shit like that". - Just to put what you just said in perspective.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
The difference? I'm not requesting the power to vote and ban people based on my opinion. I'll wait for you to respond before mentioning this on you promotion bid. I'm nice like that. Also, given more than one person has pointed out that this group is ineligible for historical, given I had Hagnat's vanity category removed earlier, why has the sysop team not stepped in to remove this ineligible shit from clogging up the system? Or do I need to nominate ex-old-BS-RG-Mods as the next 'historical' group to illustrate how this nomination abuses the system? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 02:10, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Do it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:18, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I never said this was an eligible group. I was just saying that you shouldn't accuse Hagnat of bad faith when you got so aggressive with me about it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:38, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Did you not pay attention? The difference is that your jumping to conclusions behaviour could land a innocent user with a ban because you're chomping at the bit to get the power to ban people on this wiki. I am not. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 23:38, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Say whaaaat? I have no intention of accusing people of voting in abd faith, as you have. I pointed out that loads of the clauses in your PD were about punishing people you don't like.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:59, 18 November 2009 (UTC) NO
  1. Nay I've never heard of them, and it seems to me that they had more of a presence on the Wiki than the actual game. --Justin 20:37, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Voting Closed - Not only is this group ineligible for entry, it has failed to get anywhere near the right amount of votes. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 09:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

The Church Of The Beyonder

Nomination added by User:Paedobear at 05:09, 15 November 2009

  1. Against - Allied with TZH, a quick shout to the PKA should kill this. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 11:55, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  2. No - Who? Nothing to be done! 11:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  3. No - Bad. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:01, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  4. No Another example of why historical voting is fail. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
    Dunno... I'd consider it a better example if this trashball actually passed. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:50, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
    Because its a populartiy contest, and this example shows that people don't understand what "historical" even means. Note the complete lack of justification for the nomination. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  5. Spam - Lack of justification makes this worthless. Because no one will know you otherwise.-- SA 15:30, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  6. No - Never heard of them. --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:55, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  7. No - I've never heard of you and you don't appear to have contributed significantly to the game, even in your own suburb of Dulston, but your wiki page is amusing. Have fun with MW2!--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 13:01, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  8. No - You've got to be fucking kidding me... --Papa Moloch 13:10, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  9. No - Never heard of you folks. --Janus talk 13:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  10. No - Haven't heard of you and i'm currently in Dulston. --RahrahCome join the #party!14:32, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  11. No - Not historical if no one knows them. --Haliman - Talk 16:20, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  12. Nay - As Haliman111. --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 17:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  13. No - Hibernaculum 19:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  14. No - Had a zombie and a survivor go through Dulston. Never heard of you on either. Aichon 20:44, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  15. No - who you --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 20:55, 15 November 2009 (BST)
  16. Who? - The total lack of description and justification isn't helping... --DTPraise KnowledgePK 20:58, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  17. No fucking way - Never heard of you.-- Adward  21:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  18. No -Who? --Kelly_U RR talk 23:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  19. Triple no who the fuck are you guys?----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 01:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  20. Who???? - In other words: fuck no. --WanYao 02:24, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  21. Lolwut? -- Emot-argh.gif 02:35, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  22. Who? This is the last time I follow a link on Sexualharrison's talk page.--The Argonauts 03:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  23. No --30 members? Maybe if they zerged. Criminally Insane Talk | LoD 10:49, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  24. No Barely 18 months old... Asheets 15:46, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  25. Yes Although apparantly Urbandead is serious buisness...--Paedobear 18:49, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  26. No Never heard of them. --Papa Johnny 22:50, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  27. What - No. (as above) --Private Mark 01:36, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
  28. No - I've never heard of them. The fact that they're allied to or connected to Team Zombie Hardcore is their only claim to fame. And if you piggyback a group that doesn't matter and hasn't ever made a lasting impression on the game and that's the biggest thing you're known for, then you aren't even remotely a candidate for a historical group. --Goribus 02:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
  29. No - Who?-- | T | BALLS! | 07:48 17 November 2009(BST)
  30. No - Although Vida Guerra's ass is banging, I have never heard of this group - including a vast amount of others. --ZsL 23:27, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
  31. No - Never heard of 'em. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 06:24, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
  32. No - Again, I have never heard of them or seen one of them in Malton--Roland 00:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  33. No - Who? -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 21:45, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  34. Yes Won't make any difference, but am voting yes simply because the page keeps making me laugh when I go back and look at it. --Xyu 14:21, 20 November 2009 (GMT)
  35. No - No. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 19:23, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
  36. No - Not known, did nothing useful.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 20:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Voting Closed - This group has failed to become a historical group. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 09:23, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


Detulux_Inc has disbanded (per news banner on their forum) but was a longtime presence in the Kempsterbank area, contributing much to the general fun level for survivor and zombie alike.

  1. Yes - Nominator vote. - M arcusF ilby T 21:14, 17 October 2009 (BST)
  2. No - Who? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:16, 17 October 2009 (BST)
  3. Um Marcus you need to convince me. Although having eaten them for a few years, Im more than aware of their existence, what have they done that is historical? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:23, 17 October 2009 (BST)
  4. No - Never heard of them. Oddly enough, never been to Kemsterbank either. Historical groups need to ahve exuded their fame beyond their suburb.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:09, 17 October 2009 (BST)
    Which is a bit weird, since they (histr. groups) usually only get specifically mentioned in suburbs they were active in.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 23:53, 17 October 2009 (BST)
    General historical (namely this page and the associated category) have traditionally been separate from suburb historical. Some groups that have never passed here have been placed in the historical section of suburb pages due to the consensus of their input there rather than the game as a whole to gain the nod through this process. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 23:58, 17 October 2009 (BST)
  5. No - Who?-- Adward  22:27, 17 October 2009 (BST)
  6. No - Calling these guys nobodies would be a massive overestimation of their significance. --Papa Moloch 22:53, 17 October 2009 (BST)
  7. No - I'll second Yonnua, Drawde, Iscariot and the Hierophant. --Goa'uld 0:04, 18 October 2009 (MET)
  8. No - I have been playing this game for years and i just head about you all. -- Emot-argh.gif 23:18, 17 October 2009 (BST)
  9. No - as moloch. --Papa Johnny 01:02, 18 October 2009 (BST)
  10. Yes I originally Led the KT, and they came to K-Bank just after I quit the group, and just before I took a hiatus from the game. All these years later,... I still know who they are by the mere mention of their name. If I'm not mistaken, they were active in a couple suburbs prior to going to Kempster. -Poodle of doom 01:17, 18 October 2009 (BST)
  11. Yes - If poodle of doom vouches for them they must be worthy of historical status, surely? It increases the validity of the bid greatly, so yes from me.--CyberRead240 01:51, 18 October 2009 (BST)
    wait no, I'm totally lying, he makes it so much more no worthy, SORRY LOL--CyberRead240 01:52, 18 October 2009 (BST)
  12. No - A group, yes; with a presence, yes; of historical significance, not quite. --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 02:00, 18 October 2009 (BST)
  13. No - As the Papas. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:17, 18 October 2009 (BST)
  14. LOLWUT??? - --WanYao 06:33, 18 October 2009 (BST)
  15. ...No. Cyberbob  Talk  09:40, 18 October 2009 (BST)
  16. No - Not historically significant. --RahrahCome join the #party!09:43, 18 October 2009 (BST)
  17. Yes- 0have you people not seen this image??xoxo 09:47, 18 October 2009 (BST)
  18. No - Sorry. It looks like you were a fun group and I enjoy your wiki page, but even as a zombie who spent some time in Kempsterbank I didn't know about you.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 10:40, 18 October 2009 (BST)
  19. ALiM, you've got me convinced. I vote Yes on that picture alone. Nothing to be done! 12:30, 18 October 2009 (BST)~
    I don't think anyone's actually called me alim before. I mean i practically am alim, but to be called it - what an honour sire! xoxo 09:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
  20. No --Orange Talk 16:08, 18 October 2009 (BST)-
  21. No Sorry but just being fun doesn't make it historic. For that you need to make a really big impact on the game and just being big in 1 'burb doesn't quite cut it for me. --Honestmistake 08:08, 20 October 2009 (BST)
  22. No I thought they disbanded and were nominated a long time ago. Asheets 20:16, 21 October 2009 (BST)
  23. No as everyone else.. or convince me that urban dead really is fun.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 11:06, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  24. The ONLY time I've ever heard of them was through Recent Changes doesn't help that I haven't played the game in ages and when I did I never payed attention to anything but the target-- SA 14:44, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  25. No - We came to kill them at their "HQ" once and no one was there. :sadface: --Blanemcc 16:38, 22 October 2009 (BST)
  26. No - Haven't even heard of them before now. -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 00:17, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  27. No - I have heard of this group, but I don't see them receiving the historical status. --ZsL 02:09, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  28. No - As...uhm...everyone. --Met Fan F 03:32, 23 October 2009 (BST)
  29. No - I have never heard of them.--Roland 01:35, 25 October 2009 (BST)
  30. No - ORLY? I've been at Kempsterbank for over 4 years and never dealt with this group other than seeing their annoying propaganda and spraypainting my sweet home over and over. --Moogoogaipoo 01:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
  31. No - For all the above mentioned reasons. -- DarthRevan 06:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Voting is over. This group has failed to be added to the category of historical groups. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:23, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

The Dead

The Dead destroyed a good deal of Urban Dead during '08 and are no longer an active group, they had a massive effect on the game and therefore deserve status as one of the Historical Groups.--Super Nweb 02:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


  1. Yes - My nomination!--Super Nweb 02:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


  1. Far from inactive. It would have taken 1 second to find the largest group on the stats page. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:59, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. There should be vandalism criteria for non group members proposing groups still on the stats page. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 05:53, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
  3. As DDR. The March of the Dead may be a historical event, but that's not really my call. Linkthewindow  Talk  06:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
  4. As above. Should we introduce IQ testing before people can propose things on this wiki? --Papa Moloch 07:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
  5. Who? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:07, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
  6. What? Not inactive.-- Adward  21:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
  7. For the love of...Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 23:44, 29 March 2009 (BST)
  • Group is active, therefore not eligible for inclusion as a Historical Group. -- Cheese 19:23, 19 April 2009 (BST)

Monroeville Many

How interesting. None of the guidelines for this page mention it needing to be a group from Malton. Because of this Dear Sirs, I'd Like to Nominate the 'Monroeville Many.

One of the "Big 4" Hordes of Monroeville the MM was founded by Two Fools with no prior knowledge of the zombie side of Urban Dead. Early successes were good, and by the end of Monroeville's first Month they became the first recorded horde to breach a Mall (Archway). After this they swang south and donated 30 zombies to The Fall of Monroeville Mall, before assisting in the destruction of Drummond Mall.

During the permaheadshot era the MM continued to attack the north of Newtown despite heavy losses.

Once headshot was revoked the group resumed its mini mall tour, helping to destroy Spaulding and reruining spearing before slowly chewing its way through Newtown.

Have a look at the wiki. There are a number of entries by people claiming the Monroeville Many ruined their safehouse, or ruined their mall and infected them. In some of these cases we weren't even in the same suburb. It seems even are name was enough to scare them. Is anything in Monroeville Historic?


Why not vote, tell us what you think. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes (Monroeville Many)

  1. Yes. Indeed. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
  2. Yes omg epic win is epic. --Haliman - Talk 23:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yes. But add it to a different category, like Category:Monroeville Historical Groups --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 23:15, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
    And what a small category it will be. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
    Would probably be smarter to put all non-Malton historical groups into the same category. --Midianian|T|DS|C:RCS| 23:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yes --Midianian|T|DS|C:RCS| 23:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
  5. Indeed - It's true. 23:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
  6. Yep - I'm still alive, Monroeville Many.... --Pestolence(talk) 23:37, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
    I know. There's still some of you cheeky blighters left.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:42, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Although there shouldn't be a new category. Linkthewindow  Talk  23:47, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
  8. Yes - --WanYao 01:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Never played in Monroeville but I know all about these guys.--SirArgo Talk 01:38, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  10. Yes - As above. --LithedarkangelMeth!The Great Meth Man 03:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  11. Yes - The first group that comes to mind when I think of Monroeville. --ZsL 09:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  12. Oui - Unfortunately, you have to give Monroeville some perspective. It occurred in a shorter timeframe, on a smaller scale, with smaller numbers. Were the MM historical to their setting? Though they may pale to the might of the RRF or FU, they were historical in their own right, amoungst their own city. Therefore, I vote yes. --Pyrranha 23:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  13. Yes - As Hagnat. -- Cheese 15:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  14. Yes we are the Many --~~~~ [talk] 17:12, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  15. Yes - From what I hear. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
    Yes. (Non-vote striken) --WanYao 09:50, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  16. Oh yes - Good times Ross, good times. Hope it's all going well in Borehamwood for you all. Acoustic Pie 19:21, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  17. Yes - --Janus talk 14:24, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
  18. Yes One minute people were laughing behind their cades, the next they were lunch and the survivors were screaming "the many are coming... run!" Anyone who played Monroeville heard of them which is more than can be said for many other nominee's.--Honestmistake 09:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
  19. Yes We had a great time leading them in a wild goose chase all over Mville, other than that they were a force to be reckoned worth.--Babe's Ghost 22:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  20. Yes - I led one of the other Monroeville hordes, the MM were the only one to take the server completely seriously and play relentlessly. Also the idea of a new category is retarded, is anyone really going to get the impression for the page or the fucking group name that this was a Malton group? Their historical status should not be detracted from, place them in the normal category with the rest of the groups. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 08:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  21. Yes - The Many made a big difference in Monroeville. If there's going to be a history for Monroeville, which there should be, then the Monroeville Many are a definite part of it. --Necrofeelinya 09:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  22. Yes - As above, more so because Harrison voted No.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 15:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

No (Monroeville Many)

  1. No --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 02:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  2. To me, I feel that Monoreville's different rules made it easier for zombies. It is true that permaheadshot is terrible, but at all times, survivors had to deal with permadeath as well. Since the game was, IMHO, titled towards zombies, I'm not sure as to it being historical.--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 15:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. NO there should be a new category.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 16:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  4. No It may be impressive, but it's not historical, and if it passes, IMHO there should be a new category .( although I have never voted before, I felt compelled on this one)--Psychotic Pantomime 17:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  5. No - As above. --Papa Moloch 18:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  6. No - what did they do besides be big?--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 21:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
    Erm stuff. Rampaged through every suburb, ate people. What kind of thing do you want? Helped to destroy every mall in the whole city apart from Miracle Mile Mall. Seemed good enough to get the mall tours historical. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
  7. No - As the rest. -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 18:42, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
  8. No I'm not convinced Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 22:58, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
  9. No As above. Sanpedro 04:20, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
  10. No' There is only one The Many. --Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 17:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
    Fair enough. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  11. No --Cyberbob 05:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  12. No -It's not historical, impressive as many say but not historical. --Firetwig W! 07:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  13. No - Huge, mediocre group was huge and mediocre. --/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 01:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
    Out of curiosity which monroeville group were above mediocre? Because frankly I thought that the MM had the best chance of gaining historicalness. Or is it the whole of monroeville you find unhistoric? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
    The whole fucking town was mediocre, the zombies, the groups, etc. --/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 03:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
    "No""= As woot says. Unsigned. -- Cheese 20:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
  14. No - Monroeville wasn't historical and neither was this group. LemonHead7t7 *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡|͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|]]| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡*̡͌l̡* Talk/PDA/Red Rum/MOB 22:18, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    Edit: I tend not to vote yes when the historical bid was put up by a leader/member, and when that person argues with people saying no :\ LemonHead7t7 *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡|͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|]]| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡*̡͌l̡* Talk/PDA/Red Rum/MOB 22:21, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    Your mother is a dirty whore--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 01:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
    Aww don't be hatin' baby! LemonHead7t7 *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡|͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|]]| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡*̡͌l̡* Talk/PDA/Red Rum/MOB 01:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
    I'm arguing? Random. Looked like two questions and a fair enough to me. Or by posting here, now am I arguing? I appear to be stuck in a loop. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:08, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Voting Failed - 22 For : 14 Against. Not quite 2/3rds. Sorry. -- Cheese 20:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Viva La Revolution

Because sometimes, it isn't just the great groups that are historical, nor the good, nor the truly destructive. Sometimes, groups achieve historicity in an entirely seperate field - the field of failure.

Once upon a time, the First Revolutionary went around Malton saying things like "Now it is time for malton to stand up, all of the living malton to stand up, defeat the zombie scurge and unite!".

Then, a bold wiki-user tried to spread the word of this revolution on the wiki. Sometimes, in his zeal, he would forget which revolution was his. In time, the Revolution gained some members, who made stirring speeches like this: "I have killed another zombie to make my death toll 14. The zombies won't stop going to the fort. Maybe more people should be posted outside the fort than inside."

Despite such innovative tactics, the group failed to make much of an impact in-game. However, Darkmagic's tireless campaigning on the wiki, coupled with the vast gulf between what they set out to accomplish and what they actually made happen, make them the true standard for comic failure - the Plan 9 from Outer Space of UD groups. --Sir Bob Fortune RR 18:53, 24 July 2008 (BST)

  1. Yes - I said it before, and I don't think I can say it better. So I'll say it again: "Viva' was truly revolutionary in, as you (Bob) say, its level of epically comic failure. Oh the hilariously grandiose mission statement. The gibbering Talk-page trolling. The general non-sequitur trenchcoatery. And oh TEH BUTCHERY of the English language... Historical for sure." --WanYao 19:06, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  2. No - Yes I heard of you, but I seen nothing special from you. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:45, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes - I remember these guys, they asked us (Randoms) to join their revolution ages ago. I think we decided to see what became of it and heard nothing since. Just purely because of the total epic failure this group should be historical. -- Cheese 19:58, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  4. Yes EPIC truly and for real... seriously. Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 20:18, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  5. HELL NO they have done zip, the page should be deleted and burned for all the typos and misspelling and I've now lost all respect for you conndraka. shame on you.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 20:22, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Wait, you had respect for Conn in the first place? O_o -- Cheese 20:27, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    So you have respect for Conn but not for me, eh? I must think about doing things Conn's way... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:28, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    well i hate you both now. happy?----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 22:47, 29 July 2008 (BST)
  6. No As above. Sorta. The burning part though. -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 23:17, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  7. Yes - Until he says otherwise. --Private Mark 23:33, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  8. YES - God yes. Fucking epic. --Sir Topaz DRGR 23:56, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  9. No - I have never, ever heard of them. This group made no impact on the game at all by the bids own description. Funny doesnt make it magically qualify. --The Grimch U! E! 23:58, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    You never heard of them? Where the fuck were you last year, Grim? Oh yeah, too busy making wiki drama and not participating in any of the major events -- survivor or zombie... And, this bid isn't about what they did in-game, it's about their contributions to "UD culture"... Which in this case, as Bob has explained, is something akin UD's version of Plan 9 From Outer Space -- which will be remembered and honoured forever. And rightly so. For all the wrong reasons, but still rightly so... Just like Viva' fully deserves Historical status. For all the wrong reasons, but they deserve it nonetheless. --WanYao 06:55, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  10. No - This guy was such a pain in the ass. If someone writes an introductory paragraph for Viva's wiki explaining why (utter failure) the group should be historical, I'll vote yes. --Paddy Dignam 00:32, 25 July 2008 (BST)
    I thought about this, actually... I understand your point. And, now, I promise I am done spamming the votes with re:'s. :P --WanYao 11:07, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  11. No - Like the one below, this group is more Hysterical than Historical. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 01:33, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  12. Yes - If one group deserves to be historical based on the joke of epic failure, it is this. Or one of the other 'revolution' groups. DanceDanceRevolution 06:52, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  13. No --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:50, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  14. No Who now?--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 21:32, 25 July 2008 (BST)
    Ho down?--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 16:53, 7 August 2008 (BST)
  15. Yes and i ask those who are voting no to get the bucket out of their heads... it might show a whole new perspective of a world for them --People's Commissar Hagnat talk 23:37, 25 July 2008 (BST)
    I live in a giant bucket.. there is a difference ;) --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 23:44, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  16. Oh yes. It certainly affected many people - talk page spam can be quite irritating. And he talked to everyone. It was an un-group which was held together by badly spelled adverts. --DTPraise KnowledgePK 01:26, 26 July 2008 (BST)
  17. No - Not noteworthy enough to warrant historical status.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  12:20, 26 July 2008 (BST)
  18. YES - They max deserve the historical awesomeness. --Duke cage 16:54, 27 July 2008 (BST)
  19. No - Not historical Sanpedro 07:52, 28 July 2008 (BST)
  20. No - mmm. nope! being a failure doesn't qualify for a history records. --~~~~ [talk] 10:27, 30 July 2008 (BST)
    Sometimes it does. Eddie the Eagle, for instance. Or Vanilla Ice. --Sir Bob Fortune RR 19:30, 30 July 2008 (BST)
    or Fridtjof Nansen --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:35, 30 July 2008 (BST)
    Yes - Sometimes, hilarity is a valid reason. Unsigned vote struck. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 19:11, 30 July 2008 (BST)
    no - i don't think bad groups deserve to be given historical status.
  21. No - Viva La Revolution did exactly nothing in it's time, and had no effect on the game.--User:Axe27/Sig 17:38, 5 August 2008 (BST)
  22. Sure - Epic Failure can be pretty Historical...--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 16:53, 7 August 2008 (BST)

# No - Plain and simple. Illusionist 03:13, 10 August 2008 (BST) (Vote striken: past 2 week voting period) --WanYao 16:21, 14 August 2008 (BST)

Failed. 10 votes For, 12 Votes Against. 45%/55%% For/Against. --WanYao 16:24, 14 August 2008 (BST)

The Imperium

One of the longest standing groups based on a non UD idea as its very foundations. Operated in Gibsonton for roughly two years, relitivly well known in certain circles (partly due to the infamous The Imperium Must Die) but also for several other reasons. Lost and was split apart because of it. No active members remain and have not done for some time. Its ideas will hopefully forever be visable to all, as it was the first and only group of its kind and magnitude.. -- Max890 01:12, 23 July 2008 (BST)

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  1. No - Group was defined by their disbandment, that is not reason for historical status. Also, we need a template for this page. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 01:19, 23 July 2008 (BST)
    Though due to everyone's sheepish nature mine is the only vote that actually counts at the moment -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:01, 25 July 2008 (BST)
    Actually, not even your vote is valid as it's not in a voting section. Numbering the votes without having different sections for different votes would be pointless anyway. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 21:32, 25 July 2008 (BST)
    I invite you to point out why my vote is invalid. My vote is the only one formatted correctly due to the rules of this page. As a voter, and not the nominator, I am not required or compelled by policy or precedent to form the relevant sections. Therefore, according to the voting rules of this page, and established precedent mine is the only valid vote. Anyone altering another's vote will be taken to A/VB for impersonation. All other votes should be struck by a sysop as mandated by the rules box you see to the right. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 01:34, 26 July 2008 (BST)
    Stop nitpicking. It's irrelevant red tape and that is certainly not impersonation, when someone feels the need to they can reformat the list tag but they don't need to and it doesn't invalidate votes.--Karekmaps?! 05:42, 26 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - It was alright.... But alright groups dont become historical. DanceDanceRevolution 01:50, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yus - Why not? Also, Will The Imperium Must Die become historical without The Imperium? I've seen talk about.. Wait.. 05:12, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - I just don't see it.--Insomniac By Choice 07:04, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - They're what, 2 year old, and didn't do anything worth mentioning in the bid until a week before disbanding?--Karekmaps?! 11:40, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yes- This group fought for the suvivor cause bravely and and and with fire in their hearts. They deserve to be laid to rest with the respect they deserve. - Chaplain Wilkins 11:43, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - i've been a resident of santlerville for 18 months and had barely heard more than a wimper out of these guys until they brought swarms of PKers into our neighbourhood...--xoxo 12:47, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - The only reason they'll be remembered in the slightest is because of The Imperium Must Die. That doesn't make a group historical. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 13:57, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yes - The reason a lot of you are saying you didn't here much out of them is because they were at they're prime when most of you had just started playing or weren't even playing. They were a very important group last year and they deserve historical status more than half the groups that already have it by a long shot. --MkoII 12:16, 23 July 2008 (EST)
  • Yes - We were real Gibsonton group, it doesn't matter if we weren't known over all Malton, but we did our job damn good. Yes, probably some of you heard about us only after Imperium must die set a war on us, but we had many years ago a fight versus black crusade and we still continue to purge and clean hive Maltonius from wrenched and rotting hordes of mutants. And by the way, Imperium WILL NEVER DIE!!! --War7 20:11, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yes- Anyone who was pro-survivor in or around Gibsonton would agree.--Wyzeguy6 22:30, 23 July 2008 (BST)
    yes - one of the mmorpg gaming groups who stuck too the theme they chose and refused too give in too critique, was a very good laugh and reliable Unsigned. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 03:48, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yes - forgot the self vote. Should even the odds a little anyway. --Max890 20:40, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • Hell No - Your group was relatively well known... due to the Imperium Must Die campaign? Seems to me that if your biggest claim to fame was people killing you, you're not all that historical. Hysterical maybe. --Vandr 21:04, 23 July 2008 (BST)
    Oh Snap! I admit, I laughed. DanceDanceRevolution 07:10, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - At the risk of sounding like a broken record, this group is only famous for how it ended and thus does not deserve a place in UD history. --Gerald Mires 21:16, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - Garviel Loken telling us how we're all going to Warhammer hell made me fall off my chair laughing, but the group itself did nothing of note except capitulate and die. --Sir Bob Fortune RR 21:51, 23 July 2008 (BST)
    Hey, Bob Fortune! News flash, smart one: that whole message on the upper half of Loken's user page doesn't have jack-squat to do with Warhammer. I imagine you assume that Hellheim has something to do with Warhammer, and therefore use the term "Warhammer hell". Hellheim is a part of Old Norse, or Viking, mythology. The religion is still practiced today! You must have missed the First Rule of Ridicule: "Know what the blazes you're talking about before you start ripping on someone or something, moron!" You don't want to start a religious conflict on this page, do you?--Ulfgard the Unmaker 08:44, 26 July 2008 (BST)
    Hey, Ulfgard! News flash, fanboy. I know enough about Viking mythology to know what Hellheim is. I also understand the 0.5th Rule of Ridicule: "Know your audience". Warhammer/Games Workshop includes various mythological elements in its products, from what I've seen of them. Me, and normal people (my audience) find Garv's comments hilarious, as they epitomise the sort of pseudospiritual rubbish spouted by nerdy table-top gamer types. I didn't make my Warhammer hell remark to be accurate, I made it to be entertaining. Are you seriously claiming to find my comments offensive on a religious level? I didn't intend them to start a religious conflict, but I'm more than up for one if you want one. Just because a number of people believe something, I'm under no obligation to take it seriously. Case in point - even though there's a group who worship Prince Philip as a god, I still think he's a buffoon. As are you and Loken. --Sir Bob Fortune RR 23:34, 29 July 2008 (BST)
    Fair enough, Bob. Glad we understand each other. I really see no reason to resort to name-calling and insults. Just wanted to get to a place where we could hear each other's arguments and reasoning. All that said, have a good day, and good luck gaming. Just don't expect any mercy if we meet up in-game, eh? Take care.--Ulfgard the Unmaker 00:57, 30 July 2008 (BST)
    How dare you insult the divine Prince Phillip! Next thing you know, he'll be criticizing the views of the beloved Donald Duck Party! Free Liquor and wider sidewalks for all! -- KFTinywhitemask.GIFPKTalk 00:48, 30 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - I've been playing since March 2007 and never heard of them.--Sarah Silverman 22:45, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - Who are you? No really. I want to know. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:54, 23 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yes Was the first group I heard of upon my arrival in Gibsonton Capgun 00:04, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • No Absolutely not. The only thing they're notable for is getting their asses kicked so badly they disbanded. --Ocular Druuuuu 01:27, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • YES Now see here, the Imperium was a longstanding group that outlived the Gibonston Nationals, the Winchester Boys, the Black Crusade, PKer Storm, and at least one Big Bash, mostly in one year that I've been aware of the group! They were around before that, even. This vote doesnt depend on whether they were known throught the whole of Malton, this vote shouldn't be based on voting for the laughs, nor should it be based on allegiance to groups who stood against them. Time and again the Imperium was praised by its greatest enemies for putting up a good fight no matter what the odds. Three times, the Imperium nearly fell apart, only to be reborn and even more zealous than before! Just because someone has a personal conflict with Loken doesnt mean that the group deserves no recognition. He took it upon himself to be the voice of the Imperium, and oftentimes did not follow orders to keep quiet. But what has that got to do with anything? This is not a debate on whether or not Garviel Loken was besieged by griefers until he finally got tired of dealing with their whining and their smears. By the gods, people, this is a vote to give a group that has existed for a long time and made the cyber-trek across three bloody forums (before mass desertion and absent administration crippled its manpower made its continued existance impossible) recognition for its existance and deeds! I hereby call upon all Naysayers to consider their motivations before they put in a final vote. Dislike does not equate to worthlessness, and if you cannot see that (or worse, see that and vote against the Imperium anyway, regardless of it's many quailifications and long history), take your worthless characters and quit the game. Leave it to those of us who try to make this a game worth playing.Ulfgard the Unmaker10:04, 23 July 2008 (EST) No timestamp. Asdd timestamp and remove strike out then, and only then --The Grimch U! E! 03:43, 24 July 2008 (BST) Okay, so I had taken a screenshot of it as soon as I posted it and saved the image to my computer. I looked it up and added the appropriate timestamp. May I erase the strike out? I apologize for the misunderstanding. I just opened this wiki account tonight and am trying to get used to the features. I must admit that technology tends to leave me baffled. Ulfgard the Unmaker 11:25, 23 July 2008 (EST)
    And yet you still can't name one. Just like the other Yes votes you're only voting yes because you were part of the group.--Karekmaps?! 05:14, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Name what? He just said several reasons why it should be historical. And I just want to mention that the reason we fell apart was due to bad timing. We couldn't recruit because our Admin had gone away for months, several people couldn't get along, and then even more people disappeared. The PKers just say it was because of them -Chaplain Wilkins 10:33, 24 July 2008 (BST)
Ulfgard the Unmaker said:
. . .recognition for its existance and deeds! . . .
  • One of those deeds, surviving forum moves is hardly a noteworthy deed, and none of you have so far mentioned a single deed they did beyond when a bunch of people decided to drive them/you from the game.--Karekmaps?! 13:20, 24 July 2008 (BST)
Karek said:
. . . surviving forum moves is hardly a noteworthy deed . . .
  • This is true, in and of itself, but a group with members devoted enough to bother trying to help their group struggle on should mean something, shouldn't it? Oh, wait, that's right. The world's changed since the last time anything of substance was good for, or meant, anything other than "lulz". My bad. No wait, the world's bad, that one. We voting "yes" are merely relics of this past, is that what I'm to believe?--Ulfgard the Unmaker 16:29, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    This isn't "vote for groups that people were in" this is "Vote for groups that had a major effect on how the game was played", thus the name Historical Groups, just because it had dedicated members is not a satisfactory reason for anyone not in the group because we/they aren't in it for self gratification.--Karekmaps?! 17:05, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Look, I'm not voting for no other reason than because I'm a group member, I'm voting because it was a longstanding group. It existed for two years, a length of time when dozens of groups can rise and fall. But for the sake common decency, let's quit bickering, okay? I won't argue with you if you don't argue with me. Sound like a deal, Karek? Now that we've made our points, does this mini-debate really need to keep going on between the two of us?--Ulfgard the Unmaker 17:27, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    A historical group is not measured by its number, nor its longevity, but rather by what they have managed to accomplish in the time that they were active. Take Shacknews for example, they were around for just a few months, tops, and made a huge impact on the game. Staying in a single suburb and claiming it to be the safest in Malton, then getting killed by a group of PKers is not really noteworthy. -- Cheese 17:32, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Well for what did Winchester boyz and Gibsonton nationals do to get historical status? If you dont know people, we were one of three groups in Epic coalition in Gibsonton. And yes we did make a change in Malton, or i should say in Gibsonton, we made it one of safest burbs in Malton! Thats before we became Pkers target. And if you think that to defend 4 squares non resources building over 2 years is easy, then you are welcome to try. --War7 19:16, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Winchester Boyz was never voted on and Gibston Nationals failed their attempt.--Karekmaps?! 17:48, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Well then what does this page means? --War7 21:29, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    It means something needs to be fixed. I did the honours. --WanYao 19:46, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    May ask you, whitch burb are you from? And what rites you have to change our burb description? huh? --War7 21:58, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Which burb he's from? Players with several characters can be from various suburbs--how is that question relevant? And he has the "rites" to change the suburb description because suburb descriptions are public NPOV pages which can be edited by anyone. --Vandr 22:52, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • No I'm in favor of a number of groups getting Historical status...And I'm really split on this bid, But I'm just not seeing it right now. Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 03:11, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - I dont see how this group changed play in the game, or even made much of an impact. --The Grimch U! E! 03:43, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • No I had only heard tidbits about this group before the Imperium Must Die campaign, and I'm active in the community & game. No offense, but you didn't accomplish anything other than get targeted by some PKer groups. -Russell Oakley 03:47, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - The only time they were important was when DORIS was killing them.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  04:07, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - Some ideas should not be "Visable" --KF 05:01, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • Fuck no - You did NOTHING make yourselves noteworthy, to impact the game or the "culture" of UD. The only time this group was in any way noteworthy was after they got noticed -- for terminal lameness -- and targeted by DORIS. Now, darkmagic's Viva group I would totally support as historical :P because their level of FAIL was truly epic. The Imperium, however, falls somewhere between laughably mediocre and painfully unremarkable. --WanYao 06:54, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yes- Could all the pkers who just want to obliterate what little we have left shut up and get back in their boxes? you broke us up, but that doesn't mean we were nothing let us keep what was ours, am i trying to destroy everything YOU create? the obvious answer is no i am not --Warmaster Death 07:32, 24 July 2008 (GMT+10)
    Your group had no significant impact on the game or the community, outside your own little world. The fact that only members of the group are voting yes kind of demonstrates that. And, many (most?) of the people voting no (including me) have nothing to do with DORIS... None of this means you didn't exist, it doesn't mean you didn't do good work in your part of the city. But that's not enough to qualify as historical. Also, just in case you don't know, pages for formerly active groups are never deleted, so it's not like your presence will just vanish, you'll always be part of UD's history. Just not worthy of "special" Historical Group status. --WanYao 10:45, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    And don't you guys understand why there was an Imperium Must Die group? Because they wanted to bully you because you were just some insignificant group which they had no respect for. Sorry to destroy your confidence boost, but thats just what it seems like in all honesty. Needless to say I wasn't involved in it, so you can yell at me for mouthing off about things I don't know... But that being the case, I never participated in 'war' against you and you can't claim over 50% of the voters here actually participated in bringing you down. So don't use hatevotes as an excuse for your poorly running tally. DanceDanceRevolution 13:34, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    This may be like the most collossal misestimation I've seen on this wiki, judging by the comments! It's like you started the slow clap in a crowd, and now clap alone.--Sarah Silverman 19:30, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Clap clap calp clap clap clap!!! --War7 20:01, 25 July 2008 (BST)
    CLAP CLAP CLAP CALP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP! The men and women of the Imperium shall be forever remembered by the Emperor's finest!--Ulfgard the Unmaker 23:31, 26 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - As WanYao's reply to Warmaster Death. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 12:23, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - Never heard of them before the Imperium must Die thing. If a groups only claim to fame is their death, then they must be a shit group. -- Cheese 16:49, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yes You can all go fuck yourselves. Nobody cares about the Imperium Must Die. Just because that was the only thing that brought them into contact with your giant grabass-circle jerk you predictably believe that means thats the only thing they've done? GO OUTSIDE. Give up the wiki-pancake monopoly. Ya Basta --Alphy 18:49, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Get thee back under thine bridge, ye woefull trolle!! Forsooth there be naught here for thee or thine. Verily, NO PAI! Depart, I sayeth, depart! --WanYao 19:23, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Another predictably quick and uniform response. See first sentence of my vote. Then look at your own vote and feel shame. SHAME.--Alphy 20:02, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    You're a funny guy, Alpharius, seeing as it's you who apparently hasn't read (or simply hasn't comprehended) the votes and the comments, nor understood what it takes for a group to be Historical. And what, you're associating me with DORIS?!?! LOOOOOOLZ!!! Anyhooo... there's a line from A Fish Called Wanda that's applicable here, it's where Kevin Kline's character says, smugly: "But apes don't read philosophy!" To which Jamie Lee Curtis' character replies, "Yes, they do. But they don't understand it." Or, to quote the man, Nietzsche himself, "It's highly improbable that you're not mistaken, but why insist on the truth?" Now, since apes can in fact read philosophy -- but are, it has been established, unable to understand it -- let me explain in concise layman's terms: The Imperium did nothing to warrant historical status. Period. So here's the deal, Alphy: if you're gonna troll, do it with some style and/or some erudition. Like, do it in Elizabethan English, or quote cool John Cleese movies and Nietzsche. And, get your facts straight. Otherwise... just go back to pretending you're a misunderstood revolutionary hero by PKing DEM members and getting yourself banned from every IRC channel you try to join... CIAO!!! --WanYao 15:45, 25 July 2008 (BST)
    The only thing I associate you with is frequent bipolar douchebaggery. So I do think that DORIS would be a good fit. And as the Imperium's oldest enemy I think I know a little something about the group. If every idiot who never left the malls posted they hadnt heard of a given group, there'd be about 4 historicals. Bai--Alphy 18:35, 25 July 2008 (BST)
    Behold - the fabled silver tongue of Alphy, that persuades so many people to join the groups he forms. --Sir Bob Fortune RR 18:44, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yes A yes from Umbrella Corp.--MisterGame 19:26, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yes -As President of Umbrella I support the nomination of Imperium of Man as a historical group to their resident suburb, not simply beacause we are an ally of the Imperium but also because of their once impressive dedication and coordination. Dedication- To Malton and their role playing as the Imperium, the not only protected their own suburb but reach out to other suburbs in order to protect them and extend their empire which reached as far as Santlerville which is when we discovered them and worked together to free up the distressed suburb during BB2. Coordination- Up until just before the PK assault on the Imperium this group was highly cooridinated and cooperative both within their group and with allies. Good luck to the Imperium left overs as a whole you will be missed.--Jackson 20:16, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    Moved from the bottom so that it's not a double vote. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 10:09, 12 August 2008 (BST)
    Recap/YES - Not intended for a double vote. What we have here is a huge misjustice. The Imperium of Man, an amazing well role played group of U.D. members DEDICATED to their way of role playing which in the apparently in the world of U.D. is gay, according to (and I would like everyone to take good note of...) the Imperium Must Die who basically said over and over again just how gay they do everything. I have noticed a lot of this "gay" amongst PKer groups labeling anything that either Role Plays or attempts a mature setting to the game as "gay". This is a game and this is the internet and I respect people's opinion and right to free speech and basic right to through the word "gay" around for I use it myself, however, (and if anyone reading this wouldn't mind looking up the film Idiocracy) the fact this whole ordeal was put together over something so immature is rediculess and see this as an attack on any group trying to play "legitimately" for role play value or have a good time in general. I am not saying that groups that do not role play or have a code of conduct are not legitimate. You were " it for the lulz" is an expression I have come to hear and understand but I don't see this being of something positive or LOL like in anyway for the community of Urban Dead. I understand that edits were made to wiki pages but to the extent that they were made that triggered such an event really seemed inadequate to provoke such immaturiaty and personal attacks. The Imperium of Man doesn't need sympathy, however for its value in providing a role playing environment, should be remembered and maybe one day revived to live again.--User:Jackson/Sig 03:56, 11 August 2008 (BST)
    The drama and name-calling that have gone on here has NOTHING to do with the fact that the Imperium did NOTHING to qualify them as Historical. Read and understand what it is that makes a group historical please. Then read it again, to make sure you've understood. Good role play does not qualify you for historical status, neither does merely being successful at what you do. None of that is new, none of that changed the way the game is played for large numbers of players. Ergo: not historicl. Capiche? --WanYao 15:59, 14 August 2008 (BST)
  • NO as above----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 20:25, 24 July 2008 (BST) that's a Yes? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:30, 24 July 2008 (BST)
    axe you loser stop stalking my votes!----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 22:52, 29 July 2008 (BST)
    Yes Even if some people hated the Imperium, it should be historical. Beside, I guess the same people would enjoy leaving their mark and brag about it. Right? --Skritz - For outstanding failure in the field of leaving a timestamp, this vote has been struck. --The Grimch U! E! 00:00, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  • NO -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 23:18, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • YES - Need I say more? --Private Mark 23:35, 24 July 2008 (BST)
  • NO -- Where to start? This group were not noticed until they started claiming structures "In the name of the emperor" which lead to them being noticed by DORIS who then proceeded to utterly destroy the Imperium of Man, in one of the finest displays of sheer pwnage the game has ever seen. However, the Imperium claim that they won this encounter and even made a video on youtube on how they managed to beat the PK'ers by cleverly hiding the PK'ers bullets in their bodies. True martyrs really. This group should be voted as EPIC FAIL #1, as they acheived nothing and came into the public view after getting their butts handed to them. --Blanemcc 00:09, 25 July 2008 (BST)
    For your information, Blanemcc, while I'll admit we were on our last leg at the end of the movement, the end of the offensive against us was unofficially announced three days before we were forced to break into our two current groups. The fact that we officially fell apart ONE DAY before the ceasefire was publically announced was exploited, and the opposing party claimed victory wherease three days earlier, they had conceded defeat. Sneaky, underhanded treachery is what it was; slander and callumny.--Ulfgard the Unmaker 09:05, 26 July 2008 (BST)
  1. No - I really only know them from the Imperium Must Die. --ZsL 00:22, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - I thought about leaving a smart ass remark, but it's not really worth it. --Paddy Dignam 00:39, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - Unsolicited additional nay vote for any one of the various colorful reasons already stated. --Goofy McCoy mfd HK-47 talk 01:07, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  • Yes - As Goofy. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 03:48, 25 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - As Paddy. -- DTPraise KnowledgePK 17:12, 25 July 2008 (BST)
    YES - speaking on behalf of the Rolt Heights Vigilante Patrol, Imperium of Man was one of our allies for a time, they were also an ally and member of the Dulston Alliance, they assisted with two defences of RHVP's HQ during zed insurgents and Garviel put some quite lucid comments and advice forward on the Dulston Alliance forums. I think as a group they had an impact, even if that impact resulted in the "Imperium must die" campaign and BTW their were many allies involved in that cafuffle and I would say it was a close run thing, but the DORIS bunch got a kickin' by many estimations. TBH that fire fight was largely won from the DA perspective because the majority of anti PK'er groups NE of Malton decided to attend to have a free for all, happily for IOM this was also the same time and place for their showdown. Anyhow it's historical now and therefore should be voted in that way. - Winner of the award for outstanding failure in the field of signing your vote is... anonymous! --The Grimch U! E! 01:38, 26 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - You only became a blip on the radar when Sonny took a small interest in you. Nobody cared before then, and once DORIS was done with you... nobody cares now.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 00:10, 26 July 2008 (BST)
    No - I wasn't going to vote, but I've been convinced. Then again, was my vote necessarily needed? DanceDanceRevolution 08:53, 26 July 2008 (BST) Second Vote struck--Karekmaps?! 18:02, 26 July 2008 (BST)
  • YES! - Same as Dr Cory Bjornson if Imperium Must Die is going to be historic, Imperium should be too'nuff said. --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 11:57, 27 July 2008 (BST)
    Imperium Must Die is not historical. Get a friggin' grip, you guys! The paint from your warhammer figures must be getting to you... or is it lead poisoning? In any event... yet one more example of why these guys got griefed out of existence, wow. --WanYao 04:59, 28 July 2008 (BST)
    You're a dick.--Alphy 05:17, 29 July 2008 (BST)
    Thank you, Alpharius. I don't think any of us could have said it better.--Ulfgard the

Unmaker 05:33, 29 July 2008 (BST)

  • No, Wan Yao is a vagina. --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 12:50, 29 July 2008 (BST)
    Oh and Yao I was never by any means a member of Imperium. And concerning the "griefed out of existence" as far as I can see, looks like almost every ex-Empire member still plays UD on new Warhammer "inspired" groups. The group did end though and that's a shame... --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 20:51, 29 July 2008 (BST)
    lol, nice try! very witty, very original! i'd be flattered by the attention... but... considering the source... well... nah. --WanYao 19:42, 30 July 2008 (BST)
    Hell fucking yes!-Because WanYao said no... --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 22:31, 28 July 2008 (BST)
  1. Yes - Same as Jackson and Mistergame.--/\Haliman/\ T | CC | UC 18:58, 27 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - The Imperium's only claim to fame is that it was the group Garviel Loken was in when Sonny cracked the shits at his retarded grandiose wiki edits. Turkmenbashi 03:27, 28 July 2008 (BST)
  • No - Played since 2006, never heard much about them until The Imperium Must Die.--drawde DORISRRRRFRI! 10:52, 29 July 2008 (BST)
    Yes as long as the imperium must die is also one as well then i say keep it. they deserve the page historical for trying to stay alive Unsigned. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 22:25, 2 August 2008 (BST)

*Yes- A great group that's done some pretty valiant stuff.--Fozzy 12:12, 4 August 2008 (BST)(Vote striken: past 2 week voting period) --WanYao 16:08, 14 August 2008 (BST)
*Yes- In the name of the Emperor yes! --• LtZurSee slapped your nose with a newspaper for a heal from CORAM (0 seconds ago)AU 17:09, 8 August 2008 (BST)(Vote striken: past 2 week voting period) --WanYao 16:08, 14 August 2008 (BST)
*Yes- Because almost all "No"s are members of the imperium must die coalition. And may i say that i think it's funny that you all say we did nothing except the whole pker thing...but we were a major force in the second seige of caiger mall, having almost single handedly held the Latrobe building. And may i just state that it is my honor to declare sonny...a CUNT! Thank you and have a nice day! --MkoII 4:57,13 August 2008 (BST) (Vote striken: past 2 week voting period) --WanYao 16:08, 14 August 2008 (BST)

Nomination failed. Tally: 15 votes For; 30 votes Against. 33%/67% For/Against. --WanYao 16:15, 14 August 2008 (BST)


Reason for nomination: This group thought alongside several groups we have waited for almost o month for people to join no one has joined except one but i know this may sound like a delection request we did get several allies and we would like our page preserved since i have started a new group wich is doing alot better but the SG-1 members would like to look back at our hard work and devotion and know that we tryed to help malton but we oviously failed so that is why i make this request here so yea please make our group a historical group in our old atempts to make malton better. NOTE: I AM SORRY ABOUT ANY SPELLING ERRORS SO YEA BYE!!!!

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  1. Yes - Vandr? --Sir Bob Fortune RR 19:10, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  2. No - are you kiddin? --~~~~ [talk] 21:15, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  3. No Deletess it. It hurts ussss. Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 06:27, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  4. WTF? No --WanYao 07:16, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  5. No - Get out --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 12:45, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  6. Yes - An important group in Malton. Almost as good as 2 Cool x The Arkham Sisters ^ ALiM--xoxo 12:50, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  7. No. This is a joke, amirite?----Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 16:11, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  8. No - Get the fuck out. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:17, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  9. Yes - Huzzah! --Karloth Vois DR News 16:38, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  10. McGuyver? - Didn't think so. --Goofy McCoy mfd HK-47 talk 16:52, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  11. HighlyPoliteCentaurs? You do know that people can't just delete your page don't you? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:05, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  12. No --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 17:24, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  13. Nein - even my German is better than that English. DanceDanceRevolution 03:18, 18 June 2008 (BST)
  14. No - "no one has joined except one" --PdeqTalk* 16:02, 18 June 2008 (BST)--PdeqTalk* 16:02, 18 June 2008 (BST)
  15. Obviously yes.--Luke Skywalker 16:50, 18 June 2008 (BST)
  16. No - Sorry, but you haven't really done anything historically noteworthy. --ZsL 00:13, 19 June 2008 (BST)
  17. No Sorry. ----Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|00:05, 22 June 2008 (BST)
  18. YES TEH MOST IMPORTENT GROUP IN MALTON11!!!11! --the wallaby 12:34, 23 June 2008 (BST)
  19. OH GOD YES --Gerald Mires 18:01, 24 June 2008 (BST)
  20. Jesus Fuck No - GTFO. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 18:16, 24 June 2008 (BST)
  21. No - Who?  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  18:29, 24 June 2008 (BST)
  22. No - You bring disgrace to more deserving groups everywhere. --Private Mark 20:16, 24 June 2008 (BST)
  23. Super No - You guys had only six members (by the looks of it on your wiki page), have hardly been in any kind of historical event (wiki page list maybe 3), and it just seems like you guys didnt really really do anything to contribute. --Dromar 3 11:01, July 6, 2008 (EST)
  24. No - Hibernaculum 18:29, 6 July 2008 (BST)
  25. LOLNOU - Suburban Ed?--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 02:27, 7 July 2008 (BST)

Failed 19 (76%)Against 6 For Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 07:02, 7 July 2008 (BST)

Gibsonton Independence Board

GIB was a coalition of 10 or so dedicated fighters which exterminated what was left of the Gibsonton Nationals in a matter of days. It got much attention from the community despite the fact that the Nationals disbanded 4 hours before the attack began. It was created around April 22nd, invaded May 20th, and disbanded upon completion of it's mission May 31st. -- Labine50 MEMS | MHG 02:43, 9 June 2008 (BST)

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  1. Yes - Assuming we're allowed to vote on our own submissions.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 02:43, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  2. Yes - --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 02:44, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  3. For Liberty - YO NIKO! IT'S ME! YOUR COUSIN ROMAN!... yes--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 02:45, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  4. Okie --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 02:45, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  5. 'Yes - They saved my favorite suburb! Definitely yes. --Th heartbeat-1.gifDr. Allison Wolf MEMS Talk PIF 02:46, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  6. YES - Great Lord P4X639, MFD 02:47, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  7. SI - Donde esta mi dinero, Senor Labine?--ØxØ 02:53, 9 June 2008 (BST)
    Dans le courrier.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 03:01, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  8. YESSIR - --Goofy McCoy mfd HK-47 talk 02:55, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  9. No - Never heard of em.--Alphy 04:26, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  10. Yes as Alpy--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 04:28, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  11. No - Sorry, never heard of you. And I think that's understandable, given how short this coalition lasted. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:33, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  12. No --ZsL 04:47, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  13. Yes --RichterFury 05:13, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  14. Yes A mission accomplished so quickly is a historical event and in some ways showed just what is possible in this game. --Vandr 05:52, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  15. YES This group did so many good things RisenJihad MEMS DORIS 06:11, 9 June 2008 (BST)
    I'm pretty sure they only killed like 3 or 4 of us, after we disbanded for a totally different reason. Hell, I hope this thing goes historical so that I can point out how much of a joke this whole wiki voting thing is.--Alphy 06:26, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  16. Yes - They did a great job, even though lots of people tried to pretend they did nothing. LemonHead7t7 *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡|͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|]]| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡*̡͌l̡* Talk/PDA/Red Rum/MOB 06:41, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  17. No - Never heard of them. DanceDanceRevolution 07:47, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  18. No WTF? Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 07:56, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  19. No - Are you kidding? You failed horribly. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 16:33, 9 June 2008 (BST)
    Exactly how did you come to that conclusion? No, really, please tell me. I'm interested in hearing what exactly goes through your head.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 23:31, 9 June 2008 (BST)
    The Nationals disbanded before you got there, you were hardly around for a month, and you did nothing beneficial for the suburb of Gibsonton. That said, what exactly makes the GIB historically worthy? Oh, wait, you "got attention from the community". Honestly, if you asked half the people in Gibsonton who the "GIB" was, they'd have no Idea. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 01:11, 10 June 2008 (BST)
    When you say "The Nationals disbanded before you got there", you seem to be assuming that we created maps, plans, recruited 8 or so people, then got them stocked up and in position over the 3 hours between the GN disbanding and GIB going public. I, personally, was there a good month before they disbanded to help shoot zombies using the group affiliation "34th Airborne Division". Some stragglers and late recruits got there 48-24 hours before they disbanded. We were in position and ready to attack 12-6 hours before they disbanded. I was on IM reminding people about the attack an hour before they disbanded. Regardless of how we, in your mind, magically appeared out of nowhere, we helped the area in a lot of ways. I was there for about a month as mentioned above, we had a full time medic, and we shared our (Admittedly limited) intel with local groups. If I asked half the people of Gibsonton, they probably wouldn't know who the DEM, BBB, RRF, or any of those other fine groups were. You can hardly gauge how important a group is based on a few uninformed people. TL;DR- You and everything you believe is wrong.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 05:31, 10 June 2008 (BST)
    Who did you share intel with... the PKers? Heh heh, honestly, nothing you did makes the GIB worth historical status. Sure, you did... something... supposedly... but nothing worth remembering. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 20:42, 10 June 2008 (BST)
    First off, I find it interesting that you chose to ignore some of the best points I made about just how wrong you were. Second, any intel that GIB had was available to The Imperium, the GDA, (Though I don't know if they used the account that was set up) and The Saints. I would also like to add that you would be best off if you didn't try to pretend that GIB didn't exist, or whatever you were trying to get across with that last sentence, and to remember that I'm not just a DEM member. (Whatever problems you might have with them aside.)--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 02:26, 11 June 2008 (BST)
    What I was trying to get across with that last sentence, is exactly what I said. What did you do that was worth remembering? When you hold the GIB up against groups like the BBB, the Mall tours, the Bash, and Ghetto Cow, it just doesn't compare. You didn't do anything remarkable, or worth noting. Pretty much read Swiers' vote. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 04:39, 11 June 2008 (BST)
    You asked a question and then answered it yourself with what you apparently think is the truth, so I'm not exactly sure what to say right now. See Woot's vote.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 05:19, 11 June 2008 (BST)
    The GN left 2 hours before the GIB arrived. What did you liberate Gibsonton from? You didn't help fight the "Invasions Of Gibsonton", you made a truce with them. There was no GN to attack, just some DA and randoms. Nor were there any zombies in the area. ----Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|20:14, 15 June 2008 (BST)
  20. No - Hai guis lets hunt amazing ingame! He left? How about someone even less importants?!--Karekmaps?! 17:07, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  21. No -- Deathwire 19:00, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  22. No -- Perzeus 20:15, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  23. Yes -- Sandra Bullock en le bus --Karloth Vois TALK RR 19:27, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  24. You have to be kidding me? No! -- Officer Murphy 22:52, 9 June 2008 (BST)
  25. No. Someone promised there'd be refreshments. I SEE NO REFRESHMENTS. Mikhos 01:40, 10 June 2008 (BST)
  26. No Never really seen you guys do much. Jaydepps 02:03, 10 June 2008 (BST)
    90% of those that have voted "No" are people who voted "No", GIB's sworn enemies. Their votes are biased and unfounded.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 05:36, 10 June 2008 (BST)
    I could have swore that the only reason you're trying to vote this historical was to piss me off. You're not supposed to be entertaining me! And you helped the burb a lot when you decided to kill some of the anti-pker defenders and side with the Imperium Must Die Coalition. That was awful classy of you.--Alphy 17:21, 10 June 2008 (BST)
    And I thought someone here didn't read Brainstock... --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 21:18, 10 June 2008 (BST)
    We don't need to read Apallingstock to smell the scent of "Complete Flop." ----Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|20:17, 15 June 2008 (BST)
    that is undboubtedly true. The smell of complete flop comes off of every single group you've ever tried to create. I mean it's like suck became a member of the wiki community and its signature is secruss or alphy I mean you guys do take breaks from blowing each other to post right or do you just do it together?--Kristi of the Dead 03:40, 18 June 2008 (BST)
    Kristi getting all hot and bothered over Secruss badmouthing a group the DEM supposedly had no hand in? Shit like the above comment is going pretty low for people who "Don't take the game too seriously"--Alphy 23:42, 18 June 2008 (BST)
    No no I just like to kick you and secruss in the nuts whenever the chance comes up. I mean I spend a fraction of the time bitching at you guys that Secruss wastes coming up with his anti DEM liberation group flavor of the month. And besides that it's alot of fun scraping the bottom of the barrel with you guys.--Kristi of the Dead 02:58, 20 June 2008 (BST)
    Tomorrow's flavor: Satanic Auto De Fey. ----Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|00:12, 22 June 2008 (BST)
  27. Hell No - Never heard of them, and even the submission makes them sound like a small flash in the pan survivor group that existed only to declare war on another fairly small survivor group, with unimportant results. Pretty much the definition of NOT historic. SIM Core Map.png Swiers 22:06, 10 June 2008 (BST)
  28. WTFNO - That, is perhaps the funniest group I've ever heard of. Phail. -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 05:30, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  29. Yuh - Ocular Druuuuu 06:04, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  30. No - Completely fucking INSIGNIFICANT. --WanYao 19:07, 11 June 2008 (BST)
  31. Crawl Under The Carpet And Die With What Little Dignity You Ever Had My turn to be biased. Worst "Hail Mary" ever.----Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|20:05, 15 June 2008 (BST)
    D: --Labine50 MEMS | MHG 05:38, 22 June 2008 (BST)
  32. No - Give me a break. --Hibernaculum 02:48, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  33. NO - Jesus fucking christ? -- Kalenium  FoD 08:32, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  34. WTF? NO. - You existed for like, two weeks, and only after your enemy had disbanded. -- DTPraise KnowledgePK 15:51, 16 June 2008 (BST)
  35. NO You must be kidding me.....--Roland 02:18, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  36. Yes - A coalition was never meant to be long term, unlike the NMC. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:22, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  37. Yes - Against my initial thoughts I vote yes. Out of respect for Sonny's (in IRC) and the nominators persuasive reasoning. --Gus ThomasSpartaZHU 16:46, 17 June 2008 (BST)
  38. No--Luke Skywalker 16:50, 18 June 2008 (BST)
  39. No - A small group that never really did anything except hunt an already defunct small group that never really did anything. Oh yeah, one for the books.--KF 01:42, 22 June 2008 (BST)
  40. Yes - I like them and think that they hold a place in the short history of UD --Jellofun 04:33, 22 June 2008 (BST)
  41. Yes - They pwned the GN. 'Nuff said. Right now, somewhere, someplace, some time, Alphy has devoured his own heart. --Blanemcc 09:43, 22 June 2008 (BST)
    Let the record show that this bid for historical got 49% of the vote, while the Gibsonton Nationals barely managed 33%.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 04:10, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Failed Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 05:45, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Rouge Heart Aces

Truth of the matter is, I'd rather not have Sgt. Beebus's hard work on the wiki go to waste. Plus I think the RHA was a nifty idea. We started little under a year ago hunting BHers, and eventually we became Contract Killers. We pulled some strikes, politicked with the best of them, and I know we got our name out there. Due to inactivity, as well as my formal lack of leadership skills, I've decided that it's time to put the thing out of it's misery. - Vigeous RHA 05:00, 23 May 2008 (BST)

  1. Yes - Although Yes^5 would be more accurate.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 05:37, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  2. Yes - Yes^5 would be good, ^.^ --Carrie Cutter 06:12, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  3. No - RHA were always small with, what 7 members?, didn't achieve that much and definitely didn't have a major impact on the game Sanpedro 07:27, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  4. Yes --Karloth Vois TALK RR 12:51, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  5. Yes, carried out a contract for the Knights on occasion, pulled bounty hunters and PKers together. --DTPraise KnowledgePK 15:43, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  6. Yes - Great bunch of PKers; I'm sad to see them disband. --ZsL 16:00, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  7. Yes - Sad to see them go. --Sir WV 16:29, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  8. No - Who??? Seriously... what real impact did you have? None that I am aware of. --WanYao 18:40, 23 May 2008 (BST)
    Because you weren't around. --Sonny Corleone RRFDORIS MSD MOB pr0n 18:52, 23 May 2008 (BST)
    So what? In any event, their list of "accomplishments" is anything but impressive. So, uhm, they killed a few people??? But they did so for both "sides"? yawn..... Pancakes, anyone? --WanYao 23:21, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  9. No - Sorry, never heard of you, or if the things you did were significant. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:42, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  10. Yes --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 18:52, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  11. Yes – Brought class and style to the practice of killing people you don't know because someone else wanted you to. Sad to see the group go into the night – in no small part because I never got to work with you guys. :( ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 19:59, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  12. No And I have been around. Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 20:46, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  13. Yes Definitely!--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 21:11, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  14. Yes Sad to see you guys go. Ioncannon11 21:34, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  15. Yes RHA made it's mark. paper walls + Talk + Malton Underground 21:41, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  16. Yes I was one of the members, I'll probably write something more interesting later..--KOOKY 22:12, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  17. Yes Well, of course I'd like to see my group put in Historical Status. - Vigeous RHA 22:55, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  18. Huh? - Never heard of you. Ever. --Hhal 00:32, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  19. No - Fuck off. Your only major achievement was holding the record for the furthest any group has been up Red Rum's collective arse. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 01:22, 24 May 2008 (BST)
    Yeah, oh so far up their ass. That's why when the CGR was going to attack Red Rum I didn't tell them. That's also why I was in the CGR for a good little while, and yet I was only in Red Rum for two days. So far up their ass that I was asked to get hosted on the PKer Hub. At least I can be civil. - Vigeous RHA 02:34, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  20. No real impact on the game as a whole. Other than that all I can think of you for is echoed in Cyberbob's vote above.--Karekmaps?! 01:38, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  21. No - sorry, never heard of you. --Bullgod 01:41, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  22. Yes A PKer always helps out a fellow. ----Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|01:56, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  23. No. Heard of them, that's about it though.--Nallan (Talk) 02:28, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  24. No. Never heard of you. DanceDanceRevolution 03:01, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  25. No - As others have said: Who? --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 03:47, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  26. No - I've worked w/ these guys a bit from time to time, & no doubt they're a good bunch. But to be deemed a Historical Group is akin to being inducted to the Hall of Fame in my eyes. It's notoriety & achievements that should determine induction, not the inevitable burn-out of one's members, & subsequent folding of said group. --Canker Sore|CK | GC | ZHU | MEM | 03:57, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  27. No - Never heard of them.--Luke Skywalker 08:40, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  28. Yes - I'd heard of them, vaguely (although "fame" isn't actually a criteria for historical significance), and while I'm not intimately familiar with their exploits, they did win "Best Newcomer" in the Group PKer Malton Murder Awards last year, and their serving of contracts seems quite substantial in light of their short duration. I suspect that their contract-killing ways had at least some impact on the way the game is played, and I'm fully satisfied that they contributed sufficiently to the history of Malton as to justify their group's historical significance, --Morgan Blair 08:47, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  29. Yes - Why the hell not? --Jake4d1 13:25, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  30. Yes - Good group. They deserve it. -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 18:48, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  31. No - I'm clearly pissing into the wind here, but if this is the standard that it takes to be considered an historical group then we may as well just give the status to every group which lasts six months or more before collapsing. --The Hierophant 22:04, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  32. Yes - If you had anything to do with the PKer/Bounty Hunter community, you saw Vigeous and the RHA in action. Great group. -- --Russell Oakley 22:50, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  33. ??? - Who are you? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:19, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  34. Yes - They dealt a nice bit of terror in their time. *salutes* --Headless gunner W! 01:08, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  35. Yes - Oh, I didn't vote? Here it is. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 01:28, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  36. Yes - Why not? Icedagger 02:06, 25 May 2008 (BST)
    Yes - Indeed. Ciscokitty Improperly signed. --ZsL 18:25, 28 May 2008 (BST)
  37. Yes - Among Malton's only Contract Killers --Vandr 05:12, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  38. No - as some of above --~~~~ [talk] 11:55, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  39. Yes - What the other guys said. - Love from Swing XOXOXTalk 17:20, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  40. Yarr! - love them cats!--Jellofun 00:19, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  41. YES - As Vandr, an interesting angle on an old shtick. Worth saving. --Goofy McCoy mfd HK-47 talk 05:21, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  42. Yes - You guys are great! I thought about joining you before I joined RR.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  19:01, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  43. Yes - They organized some rather memorable events, and I just plain liked 'em.--FT MCI 07:37, 28 May 2008 (BST)
  44. Yes - As above --Bartemius 10:06, 28 May 2008 (BST)
  45. Yes - proved that Mercenaries don't always have to equal Trenchcoaters. --Sir Bob Fortune RR 14:02, 4 June 2008 (BST)

Failed: 29 For 16 against 64% Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 09:47, 9 June 2008 (BST)


Where would the game have been without these guys? They were really rather awesome chaps, essentially the acting government for a good period of the game. If you didn't rely on their help during a siege or even when your suburb was down, you most likely weren't a harman. Fair and just. Reasonable. Good scones. And by gum, they were benevolent dictators. Good show all round! -- Karloth Vois TALK RR 21:34, 24 May 2008 (BST)

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  1. Yes - They will be sorely missed. --Karloth Vois TALK RR 21:34, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  2. No -Wah? Aren't their subgroups and such still active? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:48, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes - If it's on the wiki it must be true. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 22:08, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  4. No - As they were like a co-op of really separate & independent groups they should be put up one by one to honor their awesomeness and individuality. It's a terrible shame as they really were good people at heart. I hope the children's families can find it in their hearts to forgive, and manage to move forward. --SiIIyLiIIyPiIly 22:30, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  5. No - So, with 73 known members in the MFD, 44 in the MEMS, 103 in the MPD, 53 in the MFU, 24 in the MM, 43 in the MCDU, and 16 in AH, for a total number of 283 known members in the many branches of the DEM (as listed in the Game Statistics when I checked just now), it would hardly seem as if this umbrella group is merely a memory of Malton's historic days-gone-past. But, as the various group boxes on their recruitment page would place that total much higher, at 473, I am ready to believe that an order to disband has indeed been given. However, as that same page indicates that the DEM is "currently looking for volunteers from all across Malton to join its ranks", and I have not seen any official statements that would contradict, I cannot—for the moment—support this nomination. --Morgan Blair 22:58, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  6. Yes - The DEM's Department of Truth would like to inform all nay-sayers that the Department of Emergency Management is historical for many reasons, such as when we single-handedly removed an attacking force of 300 000 zombies from Ackland, Caiger, and Calvert malls all at once with a dedicated squad of 27 fighters. We later convinced Kevan to edit the server so none of this would show in game. The Department also denies that it has an evil robot army, or that it's robot army is evil. Thanks, Assistant Fire Chief Labine50 MEMS | MHG 23:07, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  7. No - They're still active, as a bunch of sub-groups. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:13, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  8. Yes only if RG=DEM--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 23:38, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  9. No - I haven't seen anything to indicate their disbanding. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 01:47, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  10. No - Never heard of them. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 03:15, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  11. No - They were a small group with few accomplishments outside of the sole suburb that they patrolled. Really they never had more than two or three active members. What did they do that is worthy of historical note? --Vandr 05:09, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  12. ??? Who? --DTPraise KnowledgePK 05:38, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  13. No Never heard of them. If we just went around giving historical status to any group that's made it six months without dying, we should just hand them out to everyone. NEVER -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 20:28, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  14. No - Never disbanded to begin with. --Private Mark 21:47, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  15. No - Other than running a couple of cool tools (Rogues Gallery and the Revification Request Tool) and the Red Rum/DEM Mutual Admiration Society on Brainstock, they weren't especially active, I rarely saw them in-game... --WanYao 23:16, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  16. No - never liked them, never will! Escpecially those dirty RG birds! --Jellofun 00:12, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  17. No - Inelegible, still active. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 00:16, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  18. No - Zergers deserve no recognition. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 01:22, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  19. No - And as much as I like Karloth...this is close to spamaliscious vandalisiousness. Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 02:20, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  20. YES Must be historical. They've been around for so freakin' long they deserve it. --User:Axe27/Sig 02:46, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  21. No - They can be historical when they are, in fact, history. Until then... --Canker Sore|CK | GC | ZHU | MEM | 05:10, 26 May 2008
  22. No - Aren't they still around? Never liked em anyways.... Jaydepps 05:56, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  23. No - Still active. --Druuuuu OcTRR 03:49, 27 May 2008 (BST)
  24. Nah - A completely worthless group that never did a thing that that could be considered worth of this nomination. If memory serves me right, they only had something like 3 or 4 players anyway. --Sir WV 02:37, 28 May 2008 (BST)
  25. Yes - Because I fear Room 101, and because this wiki has become (always was?) a bullshit exercise for self-righteous bureaucrats in training. I'm surprised I'm even eligible to vote. Or am I? --Paddy Dignam 02:55, 28 May 2008 (BST)
  26. No-- this group has only one member, and has never had more than one member. They're not even recruiting, and their one member is still active. WTF?--FT MCI 07:40, 28 May 2008 (BST)
    Yes Excuse me? Time for an official voice. We at the DEM have been committed to helping the city at all times during these dark years. Indeed, there are only about 400 of us and we are spread out over the whole of Malton, but we try. Anybody who is anti-DEM is only so because we try harder than their group. And for your interest, we are still recruiting. We are actively searching for willing survivors to help our cause. However, we (well, the NE division at least) for the last few weeks have been doing overtime to clear up recent horde devastation. Although, interestingly, in parallel to earlier comments, we are considering converging into one giant "DEM" group. Unsigned. --ZsL 18:26, 28 May 2008 (BST)
  27. No - Still active. --ZsL 18:26, 28 May 2008 (BST)
  28. No - If their branches are still active, they are. If their services remain operational, they do. --Vandurn 02:19, 29 May 2008 (BST)
  29. 'Yes - See Labine's vote. --Th heartbeat-1.gifDr. Allison Wolf MEMS Talk PIF 07:08, 29 May 2008 (BST)
  30. No - Great, yes, worth the status, yes, but inactive, no. DanceDanceRevolution 09:23, 29 May 2008 (BST)
  31. No- In the DEM wiki, it says "The DEM is not a group itself...". There you go, cant be a "historical group" if its not a group.User:Heathbulldog 1:03, 4 June 2008 (BST)

Failed 20% 25 against 6 for. And teh fact that the gruop was still active didn't help matters. Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 08:04, 9 June 2008 (BST)

Gibsonton Nationals

Hey, I think it sounds kind of wierd that the leader of the group is suggesting it, but I was told that I should nominate the group for historical status. I disbanned the group very recently. Our goals were to keep the suburb of Gibsonton relatively outside-influence free, a mission that I think we did a very good job of accomplishing. We were around from December to present, and fought many, many small skirmishes against various groups. Our most vocal enemy was the DEM, which we succeeded in keeping out of the burb amongst much bickering. We were, I hope certain other groups don't mind me saying, somewhat instrumental is rebuilding the burb amidst the recent incursions of BB2 and The Dead. We helped shape the political landscape of Gibsonton significantly through the removal (and it turns out destruction) of the Winchester Boyz. And we fought against the recent pker invasion of Gibsonton. Thank you. --Alphy 22:03, 19 May 2008 (BST)

  1. Yes - They desereve it as they have retook the burb many a time from zombie hands and deserve due credit. Also so few in number they achieved all their goals and these are my reasons for voting yes. --tom1504 22:21, 19 May 2008 (GMT)
  2. Yes - I was in the group. It was glorious. Even I was surprised by how much we accomplished. --Alphy 22:32, 19 May 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes - They were busy during their active time and I know gave the DEM quite a few headaches in the area as well as impacting the politics of the region for the time they were active.--Garviel LokenMaltesecross2.jpgNo Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk22:33, 19 May 2008 (BST)
  4. Yeah Dude "The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long." -Blade Runner ----Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|22:38, 19 May 2008 (BST)
  5. Yes --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 23:44, 19 May 2008 (BST)
  6. No - More influential groups than yourselves have failed Historical Group bids. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 04:48, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  7. No - as TSG --Dipcup 04:50, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  8. HAHAHAHAHAHA... No--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 04:52, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  9. No - for a group thats been around for less than a year? --Virus002 04:53, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  10. No - I'd never even heard of them until the Gibsonton Must Die thing started, and then only because they were listed in the allies section of the Imperium. They're as obscure as all fuck and have had about as much impact on the game as any of dozens of other obscure minor groups. Turkmenbashi 05:02, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  11. No - for the winchester boys and the fact that no one knows or cares who you are. not historical, more like hysterical--Calista griffin 04:53, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  12. No - Headaches? If by headaches, you mean "made us laugh for half a day followed up by some forum drama that everyone forgot the next week", then yeah.--Labine50 MEMS | MHG 05:21, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  13. No - --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 05:38, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  14. No Because they did nothing for Gibsonton and did everything against it by causing the disbanding of the winchies. A joke of a group, not even around for a year. Don't make me laugh. --Falcon Talon 05:46, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  15. Yes One of the goals of the Gibsonton Nationals was not to play nice & make friends. They wanted to kick the DEM out of Gibsonton & reform the suburb into an area that was not beholdened to the DEM. They achieved these goals & then some. And all of this was done on a shoe-string budget & very few members. They deserve the credit whether you like them or not. My vote is for yes. --Sir WV 05:59, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    No The Gibsonton Nationals were notable for one thing only..being obnoxious. Other than that they were really just a small-time PKer group of little note. --AidenFury Improperly signed. --ZsL 20:49, 22 May 2008 (BST)
    No. --User: Ciscokitty Improperly signed. --ZsL 20:49, 22 May 2008 (BST)
  16. No Never heard of you --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:41, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  17. Nay They did better than most comparable small single suburb groups have done, but I don't see what it was that tips the scales from "better than average" to "Historical". --Goofy McCoy mfd HK-47 talk 06:58, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  18. Yes--Mr Hootington 07:11, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  19. No - Until I started killing you, I never heard of you.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  11:26, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  20. No - I had never heard of you until the PK'ers on Brainstock decided to take the piss out of you. I laughed along with them. How does this group think it can acheive historical status? You have not affected the game in any way, shape or form and are generally ignored by the masses. --Blanemcc 11:46, 20 May 2008 (BST)----
  21. No - Coz the guy who quoted bladerunner said yes...--xoxo 12:00, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  22. Yes - Coz the guy who quoted bladerunner said yes...--DTPraise KnowledgePK 12:37, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  23. Yes - SaulKD 13:20, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  24. No - Haven't accomplished anything that a hundred other small groups haven't accomplished in their own suburbs. Brought nothing new to the game, brought no innovative way to play, no great events, nothing revolutionary. I'm not convinced. Why should this group be more than a footnote in the history of Urban Dead? --Vandr 15:12, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  25. FACEPALM - No. ----Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 16:37, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  26. Yes --Alcatraz311 16:39, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  27. Srsly Gais! - Whut haz tehy doen? WHUT!? NOTHIN!! NOTHIN @ ALL!!!--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 16:49, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    Yes - They did a great job in their own way in their time.--survior454 Improperly signed. --ZsL 20:49, 22 May 2008 (BST)
    Yes - LilJoeMeatHead Improperly signed. --ZsL 20:49, 22 May 2008 (BST)
  28. Yes - They were influential in retaking the suburb, and that is crucial in this game.---Zamiel Fortisimo 18:34, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  29. Yes - --Xan2020 06:02, 21 May 2008 (BST)
    90% of those that have voted "No" are either DEM or Imperium Must Die members, the GN's sworn enemies. Their votes are biased and unfounded. ----Secruss|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA|800px-Flag of the United States.svg.png|EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ|Evil3.gif|MU|GN|C2008|Chippy.gif|19:55, 21 May 2008 (BST)
    So because someone doesn't think you're important that makes them biased...Then why have a vote? Every "No" vote shouldn't count because it is biased that they don't think you're important. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 21:18, 21 May 2008 (BST)
    Don't be a tool Secruss. Just because we are engaged in a "war" does not mean that we cannot be object. I literally never heard of their group until I started killing them.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  05:46, 22 May 2008 (BST)
    Enemies of a group are generally the best situated to decide if you were important or not, just sayin'.--Karekmaps?! 22:07, 23 May 2008 (BST)
    Thank you.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  19:05, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  30. Nope I've never even heard of y'all. (Also, person above me, it's democratic so everyone gets to vote. Did you fail high school?) S Aline 20:21, 21 May 2008 (BST)
    Ah the many, many failures of Democracy. I think the solution to this problem is to raise the awareness of the people who know what we were about and what we did. The DA are even voting for us, for gods sake!--Alphy 23:19, 21 May 2008 (BST)
  31. No - Who? --Druuuuu OcTRR 23:40, 21 May 2008 (BST)
  32. No - Alpharius, if the group was actually historical in the first place the you wouldn't need to raise awareness of it at this point. Sounds all to similar to your last group, the one you pretended had several members. Still, it was amusing watching you boast and boast about nobody was putting up any resistance, when in fact nobody actually cared. --Karloth Vois TALK RR 00:23, 22 May 2008 (BST) P.S. Falling for the RED RUM ARE HELPING SURVIVORS April Fools' joke is historical (hysterical?) as you were the only person to have fallen for that. Hell, you even confessed to the PKA about it. That whole "I refuse to reveal my sources [A public announcement]" thing was sheer comedy genius :D
    Har Har. You guys are the DEM's personal party clowns. And none of you even went to Gibsonton before the disbandment.--Alphy 00:40, 22 May 2008 (BST)
    The whole "Red Rum is employed by the DEM" was also an April Fool's joke, Alpharius :D A horrifically executed one, but you were again one of the few who fell for it. Huzzah! And no, noone ever went to Gibsonton before we realised how irritating the Imperium were. Congratulations on... setting up in a ghost town. Huzzah x2 --Karloth Vois TALK RR 01:00, 22 May 2008 (BST)
  33. No - As per everyone else, I'd never heard of you until I started shooting you.--Screw Names 20:39, 22 May 2008 (BST)
  34. No - Sorry, but I haven't really heard of the GN until the whole The Imperium Must Die thing. --ZsL 20:49, 22 May 2008 (BST)
  35. Yes- They did a great job in thier own way in thier own time.Survior454 21:59, 22 May 2008 (BST)
  36. No- nope. Being successful in your goals does not a historic group make.--Kristi of the Dead 03:06, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  37. Nope - As Kristi. You did nothing to warrant historical status.. --WanYao 18:39, 23 May 2008 (BST)
    I remember yous starting up now... Sorta... And stuff on Brainstock. I've been agreeing with Labine recently, which scares me... But, yeah, exactly, what he said. --WanYao 08:08, 29 May 2008 (BST)
  38. No Historical to Gibsonton maybe... But not enough to warrant Historical status. Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 20:52, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  39. Yes They DEFINITELY, at least to those who were in Gibsonton, changed everything. In the 2 months they've been around, they've done more for a suburb than any other group I've ever heard of. Ioncannon11 21:37, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  40. No - Who?--Karekmaps?! 22:07, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  41. No - Sorry, I simply have never heard of you all. --Hhal 00:37, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  42. No - Have never really had an influence outside of a single suburb. Not really enough to make a group "Historical". --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 01:23, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  43. No - never heard of them. --Bullgod 01:43, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  44. No - I think I recall hearing this name before. No idea what you did (until I read your description).--Nallan (Talk) 02:28, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  45. No Never heard of you. DanceDanceRevolution 03:01, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  46. No - Admittedly, I haven't looked @ it in quite some time, but could you imagine what the Historical Group category would look like if every group that folded after 6 months was able to join? --Canker Sore|CK | GC | ZHU | MEM | 04:12, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  47. No - Huh? -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 18:46, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  48. No - I heard of you, but I can't recall you ever doing anything. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:20, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  49. No - as above --~~~~ [talk] 11:53, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  50. Yes - Jaydepps 05:58, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  51. Yes - Luke Skywalker 11:14, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  52. Sorry- Who are you again? --H The Person 18:40, 26 May 2008 (BST)
  53. NO - Nothing more than a PK group. You started in December, not even existing for a year. --Ccomeaux 04:41, 29 May 2008 (BST)
  54. 'No - Small, unknown PKer group. Nothing historical about them. --Th heartbeat-1.gifDr. Allison Wolf MEMS Talk PIF 07:10, 29 May 2008 (BST)

Vote Failed. 18 For, 36 Against. Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 23:50, 2 June 2008 (BST)

The Dancing Banana

This chap merely consisted of one rather tasty fruit, but god-damn do I respect it. His time at the helm of Red Rum brought a golden age of peace and prosperity. Unfortunately, he folded and hasn't been seen since Strata locked him in that box. We shall meet again, but not yet, not yet. -- Karloth Vois TALK RR 21:20, 24 May 2008 (BST)

  1. - Obama - Hillary just has a horrible face. --Karloth Vois TALK RR 21:21, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  2. Who? - Never heard of him. Not historical. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 21:24, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  3. NANANA - <Giol_Badguy> banana loves nuts >.> | <Banana> By the bucketful! | <Banana> Nom nom nom. | <Giol_Badguy> o.o | <Giol_Badguy> thats disturbing --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 21:26, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  4. Nana - Such the gentleman! --Pibbit 21:48, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  5. No - While this character may be all that and more, this is the voting page for "Historical Groups", not "Historical People". --Morgan Blair 22:27, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  6. Groovy - Because you know it's the right thing to do, and not just because he's a funky sex symbol to millions of screaming teenage girls. --SiIIyLiIIyPiIly 22:30, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  7. Oh Yeah- Amazing guy, a vital zambah of the RRF. Cant have banan gangbangz without him --Gus Thomas 22:32, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  8. Nana phones!- Nananana, Nananana, hey hey hey, goodbye. Nuff said --Jelly Otter 22:37, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  9. Indeed! - Historical Naners is Historical! -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 22:58, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  10. Yes - Absolutely. -- User:VI/signature 23:02, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  11. ??? (Who?) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:15, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  12. Yep That explains it all I think --Trogdor.jpgMac2bemeACCRRF 23:24, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  13. Absolutely Not! I would die for shame if I saw such an Ignorant fruit named as historical. The Idea! Simply Repulsive! But a good source of potassium. --DTPraise KnowledgePK 02:05, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  14. Humour - Dork! --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:07, 25 May 2008 (BST)
    If banana wasn't currently encased in solid oak container by the dastardly Strata, he'd be highly offended by this statement. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 02:18, 25 May 2008 (BST)
    Silly bananas, not much better then mudkipz! --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:20, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  15. No - Just because someone names themself after a popular smiley... well... So what? --WanYao 23:17, 25 May 2008 (BST)
  16. YES! -good enough for Karlos, good enough for me!--Jellofun 00:06, 26 May 2008 (BST)

Removed from consideration as it wasn't a group being nominated, it was a user --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 00:21, 26 May 2008 (BST)


The Redemptionists were the group that was the forerunner to the Imperium of Man both chronologically and ideologically. Sadly all their known members are inactive and while there has been no formal disbanding of the group they are nonetheless no longer inactive. While the impact of the Redemptionists in their time was small, their importance as the forerunner to the Imperium is considered important at least by our members as well as for historic reasons of being able to trace the lineage and evolution of one group into something new. Please do not vote no if you were not around until after this group became inactive. --Garviel LokenMaltesecross2.jpgNo Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk 22:30, 17 April 2008 (BST)

  1. 'Yes' - Seems vain to vote for one's own proposal but nothing seems to be happening. Garviel LokenMaltesecross2.jpgNo Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk03:54, 25 April 2008 (BST)
  2. Yes - They helped lead the way the the new Imperium. User:Lamerton/Sig19:11, 25 April 2008 (GMT)
  3. Yes - The Redemption paved the way for the Emperor's current representation in Malton.--BrotherMcBeaner 02:55, 26 April 2008 (BST)
  4. No - sorry, but ive never heard of you. --Bullgod 19:37, 26 April 2008 (BST)
    Doesn't matter if you've never heard of them, doesn't stop the Redemptionists from being historical to someone. There's probably quite a few groups you haven't heard of. --Garviel LokenMaltesecross2.jpgNo Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk20:36, 26 April 2008 (BST)
    This isn't about being historical to someone it's about having had a major impact on how the game was played for most everyone.--Karekmaps?! 03:55, 27 April 2008 (BST)
  5. No - Non-notable. Just because their flavour comes from the same poorly written game background as your own, does not make them an historical group. To qualify as historical a group must have been notable in the history and development of Urban Dead, not because you played Necromunda like they did. Also, if Bullgod hasn't heard of and eaten a group, it probably means they were never notable. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 01:41, 27 April 2008 (BST)
  6. No chance - Never heard of them... And, one insignificant group's influence on the formation of another insignificant group doesn't warrant historical status. I mean, what the F. have any of you really accomplished?? --WanYao 10:09, 30 April 2008 (BST)
  7. No - I've been unable to find any tangible impact. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 14:46, 30 April 2008 (BST)
    Yesh - GARVIEL IS MAH HOMIE! FOR THE EMPORER :D!--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 01:46, 2 May 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:47, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    No Never heard of them. --Karloth Vois TALK RR 19:36, 3 May 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:47, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    Yes - As someone who fought the Imperium, the birth child of the redemptionists, for a very long time I can tell you that the events surrounding the group heavily affected the way things are run in the area surrounding Gibsonton, and are partly responsible for the war going on there now. --Alphy 22:37, 19 May 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:47, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    No - Did not have any major impact and needs to be important to someone other than yourselves --Virus002 04:49, 20 May 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:47, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    No - Never even seen the name mentioned --Dipcup 05:01, 20 May 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:47, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    Sorry - If I dont know who you are, you aren't worthy of note--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 05:18, 20 May 2008 (BST) after deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:47, 20 May 2008 (BST)

Voting fails, 3 for, 4 Against. Failed to make either 2/3rds majority or minimum 15 after two weeks. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:47, 20 May 2008 (BST)

Old Arkham Republic

The OAR is an old old group from 2005 that ran the Arkham area until around early 2007. They've never been a large group but they were the only group to evar make a difference in the god forsaken lands that are the Arkhams. Many will not remember them or even know who they were because of how long ago they were around. I ask you not to vote No if you are only here a few months, that's just stupid. They were important for their time and it is sad they are not around no more. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 17:14, 7 April 2008 (BST)

  1. Yes - --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 17:14, 7 April 2008 (BST)
  2. Yes - Which one are we talking about? Reformed Old Arkham Republic and Old Arkham Republic?--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:12, 7 April 2008 (BST)
    Obviously the latter. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 21:28, 7 April 2008 (BST)
    Aren't they still active then? Both use the same forum.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:58, 7 April 2008 (BST)
    That's the new version of it. Paradox is historical but they have a new version of it. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 23:38, 7 April 2008 (BST)
  3. Yes - ROAR is the new incaration of them, Sonny. It is in effect a different group, though, with different leadership, as far as I am aware... there is continuity, yes, but they're different. And, the small but dedicated groups in the too often forgotten surburbs like the Arkhams need to be recognised and honoured. There is more to UD than DULLSton and Fort Greedy, kids. --WanYao 19:56, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  4. Yes --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 23:35, 17 April 2008 (BST)
  5. Yes and how can there be a NEW Old arkhan repluic ? That makes no sense. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 23:14, 19 April 2008 (BST)

Voting fails. 5 For, failed to reach 15 votes in two weeks. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:48, 20 May 2008 (BST)

channel 9

(march. 6, 2008) btw the group is now restared and i dont know how the hell 3 banned people voted for this

well what ever yall havent heard of us ill just reitre the group how do i delete it

  1. No - Tomer? Go away. No one will believe the lies you have tried to spread.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 23:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. wha? - I've never heard of you. Not that I would have to, neccisarily, but I'm certain I would have if you'd done half the stuff you've claimed.--SeventythreeTalk 23:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. No- You never did anything, and I severely doubt you had 70+ members.--Karekmaps?! 02:02, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
  4. Hell No - And I don't care how much gold you have. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 02:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
  5. Fuck you - No. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 03:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
    No - Sorry, but I've never heard of you guys. --ZsL 17:28, 7 April 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:53, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    No' - WHO??? --WanYao 19:50, 12 April 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:53, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    Yes - They stopped the Big Bash 2 in its tracks. Also, broke Something Awful and the Dead. --Karloth Vois RR 01:28, 15 April 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:53, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    NoWHO? Why would the wiki allow such liars into the historical groups? But thanks for the chuckle at the idea of "breaking The Dead". LMAO--DCC 15:15, 17 April 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:53, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    No Barely heard of them... only noticed them because they spammed recent changes every time they tried to update their page. And there is no need to delete a group page that fails to achive historical status... --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 23:12, 19 April 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:53, 20 May 2008 (BST)
    No - huh, who??? After deadline, vote not signed --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:53, 20 May 2008 (BST)

Voting fails. 5 Against. Vote fails to meet 15 minimum. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 06:53, 20 May 2008 (BST)

The Anti-Smurf Brigade

The ASB was an Organisation formed originally by The Randoms and the Bakers of the Apocalypse (who are now defunct). It was later joined by many other groups in the South West of Malton, including The B-Team (also defunct), M.S.L.F and Tactical Area Rescue. It was sort of the DEM of the South West Suburbs, especially Buttonville, Williamsville and Wyke Hills, and was involved in con-ordinating responses to quite a few dangerous Smurf Outbreaks in the area. After the Bakers and the B-Team went down, the ASB kind of went into the background and its now disbanded until a time when the Smurfs need putting down again. -- Cheeseman W!RandomTalk 21:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

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  1. Yes - The ASB was the greatest fear of Smurfs everywhere and deserves to be recognised as such!! -- Cheeseman W!RandomTalk 21:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
  2. Yes - While geographically smaller than some of the centrally-located umbrella groups, the ASB was far more inclusive, active, and appreciated within the confines of their corner of Malton. The ASB will be long-remembered by the locals in South-Central Malton, as well as among the many survivor groups their "foreign service" touched. - Krae 21:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
  3. Nay - I have actually never heard of you, seen of you ever. And it's not like I don't live in the area, the south west is mah corner. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:40, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Re - We were around. When abouts did you start playing in the South West? -- Cheeseman W!RandomTalk 22:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
      • Pretty much all my gaming history, over almost a year and a half. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:07, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
        • Ah well. :P As I said we were closer to the Buttonville area so maybe you were a bit further away from our sphere of influence :D. -- Cheeseman W!RandomTalk 22:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
  4. Yes - We were like a big, smurf killing family :'(, except without the infighting and incest. Well, mostly. --dudemeister 22:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
  5. No - i remember that you existed, but that is all i remember of you. nothing historical to note.--Bullgod 23:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
  6. No - Merely existing and then disbanding isn't enough. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS CRF MOB pr0n 02:59, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


GANKBUS is probably the most significant group ever to be a part of the great game that is Urban Dead. Single handedly dismantling the CDF and forcing its leader into an embarrassing retirement, GANKBUS deserves this significant title. Rasher 18:58, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Yes - GANKBUS was the reason that Historical Groups were created by Bob Hammero (idiots). Also we managed to infiltrate and destroy one of the larger player groups in the game, eventually holding their own base of operations. Gage and several of the other people that disbarred us from historical status hated us personally and simply sought to discredit us. If anything, we're grandfathered into historical status by the fact that we were locked and historical before the historical policy was even drafted. -- Rueful 19:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Historical has a different meaning than it did then, back then it was simply for groups that didn't exist to keep the pages from being wiped and keep people from adding to them, since then it gained a real purpose and a meaning.--Karekmaps?! 20:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes - In terms of pure contribution, negative or positive, GANKBUS had a huge impact on the wiki and the game as a whole. Players who "have never heard of us" or "don't remember us" simply didn't play or use the wiki at the time of our activity. We even had copycat groups at the time who joined our crusade against the evil Amazing and his cronies. GANKBUS had a singular mission, and it was achieved. Simply because they stopped operating after that does not mean we do not deserve a place in history. Rasher 19:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Hell No - And further more you and your group disgust me. Not only is your group a whos who of wiki scumery(you even have Scinfaxi listed as an ally), your actions and history are of one of the worst events in the history of this wiki and should be swept under the rug of the wiki, not paraded about like you acheived some important or great victory. In game you were an unimportant, small, griefer group, on the wiki you were some of the worst contributers and drama mongers we ever had. Be proud GANKBUS, then go die in a fire and be forgotten.--Karekmaps?! 19:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Your hatred for us is not at issue here, the issue is whether we had a significant impact. If you ignore the bad parts of the history, you'll never learn from them (Hitler) -- Rueful 19:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
      • The issue is that not only did you lie in the proposal for historical group(in the group pages history you adimit 1)that you weren't alone in griefing the CDF 2)that you weren't sure it was just your actions and 3)I'm pretty sure the CDF is still around, under Zod Rhombus still even.) but you have nothing to make you historical beyond the fact that you were a bunch of assholes with no life , a penchant for abusing the Arbitration/Vandal Banning Process, and loved picking and antagonizing one of the least popular users in the wiki's history. You're scum, you aren't historical, and in a perfect wiki you would be banned from contributing due to your past contributions.--Karekmaps?! 20:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
        • First, You're correct, we're not the first and not the last to attack CDF (LCD came first, as far as I know GANKBUS second, and ASS along with other copycats came soon after). Second, none of the zombie groups *know* that they were the sole factor in taking over a mall (vacations, pregnancy, WoW), but it's highly coincidental that CDF's number declined from ~45-50 if I recall to nearly being gone while we were in the height of our glory. Third, yes, CDF is still around, and as you pointed out under new leadership -- the leadership in place at the time when we were active was ousted. As for your personal attacks, {huuugs} -- Rueful 20:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
          • Oh, and maybe this is the perfect wiki because I've been banned like 3 times -- Rueful 20:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
        • Every point you make in your argument is another reason we should be placed in the Historical Groups section. Rasher 20:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
    • By simple virtue of a "hell no", it is obvious that we deserve a place in history. Rasher 20:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
      • You keep thinking that.--Karekmaps?! 20:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
        • I think we have found the latest incarnation of AmazingRasher 20:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
        • Also, you weren't even around during our crusade. The very fact that you have heard of us is further support that we deserve a historic group category. Rasher 20:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
          • I'm gonna respond to both of you here now, cause responding to two people who are probably socks separately is a waste of my time. That's a big assumption there, that I wasn't around. Zod Rohmbus has been a big part of that group for a long time, I wouldn't exactly say it's new leadership. And as far as zombies go, zombies know they are a factor because the mall is dead, you don't have that convinience as a griefer and as such your claims of success are usually unfounded, idiotic, or just plain wrong. People leave, it happens, griefers generally do not speed up the process. The point is your whole claim to deserving a historical title is a lie and completely factually inaccurate, the only thing you can claim that would be true is that you were griefers and shat on the wiki on a regular basis, neither one of those make your group "the most significant group ever to be a part of the great game that is Urban Dead." --Karekmaps?! 20:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

The Neon Knights

This group is confirmed inactive. I never liked it myself, but that was part of the point - it was probably the first group to have a problem with revives because they were part of a vast NecroTech conspiracy.--otherlleft W! 16:35, 15 September 2007 (BST)

Voting failed. No one voted --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 07:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


see voting

The old McZeds was a historical movement, didn't do much in game, but it was a pioneer in its variety of humor, culinary jokes- and groups were missing. Amazing and Atari Techno are now absentee from the wiki, so this old version of McZeds deserves to be put out to pasture, and the new one heralded in. --Nalikill 22:30, 13 September 2007 (BST)

Voting failed --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 07:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

The Profile Police

see voting

The Profile Police were a PK'ing group that made their impact in South West Malton. They primarily worked in and around Lockettside and made appearances in Tompson Mall as well as Marven Mall in South Blythville. The Profile Police routinely checked the spelling and grammar of character profiles and PK'd those characters whose profiles did not meet their standards. The Profile Police held a non-descript day of learning where characters whose profiles were blank (aka non-descript) were executed.

The educational antics of The Profile Police lasted from April 2007 through July 2007.

The Profile Police made instant enemies of many survivor groups in Malton and for a short time appeared to be one of the most hated groups in the game. The response to the Profile Police far exceeded the response for any group of similar size.

--8 Bucks 22:00, 14 August 2007 (BST)

Voting failed --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 07:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Christmas Tree Dead Pool

Historical, as its function (except for prize distribution) has now ended. Is in the category of "wiki group". Had a hell of a lot of members, if you count entrants as members. There is a precedent for wiki groups being placed in this categeory: WCDZ had no in-game membership or purpose.


  1. For being so goddamn fun. --User:Axe27/Sig 04:43, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  2. An amusing little bit of UD history. --Karloth Vois 13:25, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  3. Did we not participate in this? Treasure it! --Thegreathal 18:34, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  4. for, i was two days away from winning!--Blood Panther 20:58, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  5. This was an enjoyable passtime, and within the spirit of the Historical Groups Policy as written. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 03:04, 12 May 2007 (BST)
  6. It was an interesting activity on the wiki. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 01:06, 13 May 2007 (BST)
  7. No harm in keeping this little curio around, and I wouldn't want to see it get deleted. --Toejam 16:06, 14 May 2007 (BST)
  8. Perhaps we should create a policy for protecting past wiki-groups or concept ideas? --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 11:23, 18 May 2007 (BST)
    I suppose I could just copy the entire text to a new page in my user area to make it delete proof- putting {{SUBST:OLDPAGENAME}} on the new page does that with almost no effort. It would stay categorized as it currently is, so no loss there. --Seb_Wiers VeM 12:18, 18 May 2007 (BST)
    You could, but in case of inactivty, it could get deleted thereby rendering the subst. invalid. Just copy the whole wiki source and paste it over at your userspace.--ShadowScope 00:10, 19 May 2007 (BST)
    That's what SUBST does, isn't it? Otherwise you;d just use normal braces inclusion. When I change my sig page (which is SUBSTed into my sigs) the older ones do not get updated, so I don't see how deleting the page would matter. --Seb_Wiers VeM 00:22, 19 May 2007 (BST)
    Ah, okay, my bad. Didn't know how SUBST works...--ShadowScope 04:47, 19 May 2007 (BST)
  9. It was really fun--Duke GarlandTLCD SSZ 18:35, 19 May 2007 (BST)
  10. How can you not vote for christmas! --Danalov 11:38, 22 May 2007 (BST)


  1. Not an in game group. Not even historical if you ask me.--Gage 04:15, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  2. As Gage, I think that Historical status should be granted only to ingame groups. To include this Group would be to bend the laws of this category, a LOT. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:46, 11 May 2007 (BST)
    What about WCDZ?--Seb_Wiers VeM 12:29, 11 May 2007 (BST)
    We actually came up on the conformed stats at one point, and had icecream socials in-game. what can I say, we were bored.--Vista +1 15:32, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  3. Today there are still two christmas trees in the game. And presumably you'll do the same next year if christmas trees come back into the game so whats the point? --MarieThe Grove on Tour 15:48, 11 May 2007 (BST)
    The contest is over, regardless of tree status subsequent to the winning conditions it set. I can't say what I (or anybody else) would do next year, but running the contest was enough work that I'd hesitate to do it again- been there, done that, what's the point in a re-run for me? I also don't personally expect Kevan to repeat the tree thing; he's a pretty creative guy. He had the crates the first year, the trees and lights the next, so maybe for '07 we'll get the option to go caroling? Or snow, so we can build snowmen and have snowball fights? Who knows, and does it matter to this vote? --Seb_Wiers VeM 23:44, 11 May 2007 (BST)
    Fair enough, but I think we should get a policy for historical wiki groups- then this can o there. Maybe I'll think of writing one... --MarieThe Grove on Tour 09:43, 12 May 2007 (BST)
    Maybe so. Alternately, historical wiki events, or just general wiki history, would be an interesting concept. The various evolutions of the suburb map and suggestions page are (at least to me) a neat bit of community history. --Seb_Wiers VeM 15:09, 12 May 2007 (BST)
  4. Against - As per Gage's response. --Poodle of doom 23:31, 12 May 2007 (BST)
  5. I have to agree with Gage as well, for the same reasons.--Headless gunner W! 09:50, 14 May 2007 (BST)
  6. Not a Urban Dead game group!!!!! Evildemon989
  7. There's a significant difference between a minigame and a group. I do believe that this should receive some sort of special recognition, just not in this way. --Specialist290 22:33, 16 May 2007 (BST)
    No - It wasn't very historical--Caasinedrah Vote struck. No timestamp. --User:Axe27/Sig 05:07, 12 May 2007 (BST)
  8. as much fun as i had counting down those trees i'd say not a in game group therefore can't be added but should remain in the history books for sure. also i missed out by a day :( Me101 06:51, 17 May 2007 (BST)
  9. Not a group.--karek 09:58, 23 May 2007 (BST)

Result - 10 voted Yes and 9 voted No. Rejected. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 22:49, 25 May 2007 (BST)

Red Guards

Murray Jay announced the dissolution of the Red Guards in early 2007 and it's already listed in the 'retired or disbanded' category on the main RRF page. Lament, all. --Prothero 07:13, 7 May 2007 (BST)


  1. Yes Prothero 07:13, 7 May 2007 (BST)
  2. Yes Listen, any history should be categorized in my opinion if we can, and if they want to be remembered, why not? Though not a prerequisite, time went into the page as well.--Thegreathal 01:36, 9 May 2007 (BST)
  3. Yes - Murray Jay Suskind 03:37, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  4. Yes --DonTickles 04:38, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  5. Yah - If they aren't made historical, they'll be deleted before the RRF is declared historical. Duh.--Lachryma 04:43, 11 May 2007 (BST)
    They should be moved to a subpage of the RRF page, so they won't be deleted and will attain Historical status along with the main group if they dissolve. It's not the hardest thing to do (but I won't do it because I'm not RRF's favorite XD), and it's the right thing instead of doing wrong to avoid worse. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:53, 11 May 2007 (BST)
    I'll ask Murray if he likes that.--Lachryma 05:20, 11 May 2007 (BST)
    Put in a move request. That seems to be the best alternative. -- Murray Jay Suskind 17:49, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  6. Yes --Goolina Gore Corps 05:29, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  7. Yes --Heiki 20:39, 11 May 2007 (AEST)
  8. Yes Liam Degen 20:25, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  9. Yes--karek 12:49, 14 May 2007 (BST)


  1. Against - Who? Who are these guys? --Poodle of doom 19:49, 7 May 2007 (BST)
  2. No - Sorry, never heard of them. --Gut stench FU BAR 21:56, 7 May 2007 (BST)
  3. NO - In ridelybank and ive never heard of them? they seem to have been a splinter group of something larger. Me101 00:57, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  4. No - Who? --User:Axe27/Sig 01:00, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  5. No - Flogging MollyTinywhitemask.GIFPK 03:10, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  6. No - They're a strike team within the RRF. Not a group. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:06, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  7. No - Pieces of groups don't cut it. Slicer 04:20, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  8. No - As Poodle and Matt. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 13:15, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  9. No - If there are part of the RRF then surely this page will be added to the historical category/protected whatewver when the RRF enters for historical groups. Since its only a sub-group I don't think it desevres to go in on its own. --MarieThe Grove on Tour 15:32, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  10. Against - never heard of 'em! --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 15:35, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  11. NOPE - what matt and marie said. sorry murry.--Sexualharrison MR ה TStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 17:38, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  12. No - As much respect as I have for the former leader of this group, I have to vote against this on the same grounds as Matt. I would like to add, however, that they did give me inspiration for a line or two when I was composing my lyrics for one of my songs ;) --Specialist290 22:27, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  13. No - They are more like a subgroup of the RRF. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 03:33, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  14. No - I also hope Matthew Fahrenheit above is right. But you never know with overzelous Wiki janitors. Bluetigers 06:18, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  15. No - As Matt. Bluetigers, there's no need for that kind of thing, OK? --Cyberbob Sys U! 12:34, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  16. No - I've never heard of their work, nor have I seen any of their members in-game. They can't have made too big of an impact.--Headless gunner W! 09:50, 14 May 2007 (BST)
    They were a subgroup. 'nuf said--Caasinedrah Vote struck. No timestamp. --User:Axe27/Sig 05:16, 12 May 2007 (BST)
  17. No - sorry, never heard --Duke GarlandTLCD SSZ 18:37, 19 May 2007 (BST)

Result - 9 voted Yes and 17 voted No. Rejected. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 22:49, 25 May 2007 (BST)

Mall Tour '07

They just rocked. No discussion needed. --Cheeseman W!ASBTalk 00:05, 30 April 2007 (BST)


  1. Yes - Seems like a no-brainer to me. No, really! --Rightylefty 00:18, 4 May 2007 (BST)
    Yes - There's no advantage in waiting for everyone to take the name out of their profile - the group has announced it's disbanding. Might as well put it into historical groups now instead of delaying. --Toejam Invalid timestamp. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 23:12, 18 May 2007 (BST)
  2. Yes - Not only was I one of the ranzaging zmobies but I had a blast! And maybe if you checked the wiki you would see we got 19. *Shakes victory pompoms*--Mayor Fitting 00:31, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  3. Yes - They owned almost have of malton, and reminded us that zombies can still be organized. i think they deserver this Lemonhead7t7 23:48, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  4. Yes - If they've announced it's done, it's done. Should be labeled Historical just so everyone knows it's over. Only exception would be if someone else decided to pick up the torch. Slicer 23:53, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  5. Yes - They are historical, they deserve it, they won't be editing their group page anymore, that's all that counts. IMHO, even active groups could be considered historical: separating "historical" from "actual" facts is a custom brought by the leading classes in order to depolitize the masses, romanticising history. Don't do that. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 00:12, 2 May 2007 (BST)
  6. Yes - I'm with Matthew. It has been a large group with a great impact in the recent history of Malton. It doesn't matter if there's people with Mall Tour '07 in the profile once it has been officially disbanded. Scarbrow 16:10, 2 May 2007 (BST)
  7. Yes - The sooner we can cover these ransackers in dust, the better, here here! Ain't updating their page nomore anyway. --Thegreathal 22:25, 2 May 2007 (BST)
  8. Yes - And I think it's about time I took the Mall Tour '07 tag off my zombie alt... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:32, 3 May 2007 (BST)
  9. Yes - Historical now, historical later. Why wait?--Gage 14:41, 3 May 2007 (BST)
  10. Yes - Why not? Seems good enough for me. --AmatsuDarkfyre 05:05, 4 May 2007 (BST)
  11. Yes - Time isn't going to influence this.--Vista 07:42, 4 May 2007 (BST)
  12. Yes -Such a worthy adversary deserves recognition--Iggy13 22:14, 4 May 2007 (BST)
  13. Yes -Not to soon at all, evey mall that was up got hit, tours over. -Bullgod 23:51, 4 May 2007 (BST)
  14. Yes -I know that ordinarily only deceased groups go into historical status, but Mall Tour was so incredibly destructive that it provides an instant historical high point for the zed community. Having tried unsuccessfully to defend Ackland Mall from it, I can say with certainty that I have never seen an assault on that scale before or since. POINT OF CLARIFICATION: I'm not saying that Mall Tour should be banished to the dustbin like most normal historical entries...I'm simply stating that they should be immediately recognized for their accomplishments. -Tarumigan 11:26, 4 May 2007 (EST)
  15. Yes - I'll ignore the fact that it was the leader of The Randoms that nominated them, and vote yes.--Labine50 MH|ME|TNT'07 23:26, 6 May 2007 (BST)
    Re: Lol. You know you love us really. :P -- Cheeseman W!ASBTalk 22:30, 15 May 2007 (BST)
  16. Yes -Had a lot of fun fighting against them. -Antipathy 7:47, 8 May 2007 (EST)
  17. Yes - Sure, why not? Since the Blackmore Bastards got in while still having members show up on the stats (and those numbers have since increased since the time of voting), I guess that presence on the stats page isn't a factor. If it was, I'd vote no.--Jorm 18:38, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  18. Yes -Yes, they should be allowed in because they were freaking unstoppable. Nothing, could slow them down after Stickling-grad. --Cap'n'cupcake 22:23, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  19. Yes - It was really a great tour! - Jean 22:43, 9 May 2007 (BST)
  20. Yes - I'd vote yes for whenever the group has fallen to the right size or whatever, but agree with Sexualharrison's no vote in the part where he's concerned with a new one being added every year. Maybe change the link from the historical groups page to [| this one] and use that, instead of having a list of each one out on the main page? --Xyu 01:32, 11 May 2007 (GMT)
  21. Yes Liam Degen 20:25, 11 May 2007 (BST)
  22. Yes - As much as I hate them and think they are one of the most annoying yet destructive groups, they have a purpose and they have been successful. Yes they do. Of course they're not done "touring" yet. PooheadXYZ 14:02, 12 May 2007 (BST)
  23. Yes - They unleashed a whirlwind of destruction, and deserve to be honored. --Goolina Gore Corps 23:22, 13 May 2007 (BST)
  24. Yes - These guys left a wake of death and distruction respectable enough for admission.--Headless gunner W! 09:50, 14 May 2007 (BST)
    Yes - It is a famous tour and almost every Urban Dead member knows it. --JudeMaverick W!TJ! 11:14, 18 May 2007 (BST) Vote posted past deadline. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 23:12, 18 May 2007 (BST)


  1. No - Too many still showing it as their group in their profile. What's the rush? It's not like it's going to be crit 12'ed any time soon. Wait 'til everyone has moved on -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 10:20, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  2. No - It's still one of the largest zombie groups in the game, just because it's not touring doesn't mean it's not around. --karek 12:16, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  3. No - Wait till it's off the stats page before putting it up for nomination. --User:Axe27/Sig 15:47, 1 May 2007 (BST)
  4. No - Agreed, this should particularly apply to zombie hoards. Just bec. the hoard's "official" leadership says their over, doesn't mean the MT still isn't in effect beyond that leader's control. I mean, these are supposed to be literally mindless zombie hoards, the "brains" of these outfits shouldn't have all that much control over their existential status. Headshot don't kill in Urban Dead, it just slows you down some.--The Envoy 05:27, 2 May 2007 (BST)
  5. No - Wait a few months, then I'd be happy to go yes Cannywizard 18:52, 2 May 2007 (BST)
  6. No - Other than getting stuck to long at Stickling it seemed fairly predictable and hardly game altering. Much less balls than '06. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 17:40, 3 May 2007 (BST)
  7. No - Aren't they considering a rematch at Giddings still? Too soon like Boxy Says. --MarieThe Grove on Tour 15:43, 4 May 2007 (BST)
  8. No They're not gone yet, so they shouldn't be a historical group. SteelVortex2 15:19, 5 May 2007 (BST)
  9. No I personally see that they should be on the historic list but its too soon usually we wait for all members to be written off. Wait for a while Me101 00:36, 6 May 2007 (BST)
  10. No Historic, YES, but not now, too soon. There's plenty of '07 for them to ransack. Daniel Hicken 02:23, 6 May 2007 (BST)
  11. No - COME ON PEOPLE! They've done this twice before (Maybe 3 times, can't remember if there was an '05). Is it really historical, or is it just interesting to watch the general ebb and flow of countless mindless drones repeatedly doing the same thing? Still kicked our arses though! --Poodle of doom 03:41, 7 May 2007 (BST)
  12. No And anyone who voted yes on this better not be one of those who made the BBB wait for their historical status because they were still "active". No playing favorites just because it's your side. To be fair, I play both. --Schloss Ritter 05:06, 7 May 2007 (BST)
  13. No - Still on stats page. --Gut stench FU BAR 21:59, 7 May 2007 (BST)
  14. No - Ummmmm what? Still on the stats page, so does not even pass the requrements for historical! --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 15:38, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  15. Hell NO - so do we have to make the mall tour a new historical group every year? i think not.--Sexualharrison MR ה TStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 17:42, 8 May 2007 (BST)
  16. No - It may just be me, but they didn't seem like that big of a deal. I may not have been around for the first two mall tours, but they seemed to be a lot bigger (or at least more publicized) than this one was. What did this one do? Take down malls while survivors were at their weakest (and getting their @$$es kicked everywhere else in Malton at the same time). The only thing "unique" about this one was that they started using PKers. But even despite the addition of semi-organized PKing, they weren't deadly enough to be particularly noteworthy. However, I do think that some sort of page should be created (call it an introduction to the mall tours) that summarizes the stuff on each Mall Tour's page (including this one) so that people know that the Mall Tours didn't skip a year or anything. --Reaper with no name TJ! 17:30, 10 May 2007 (BST)
  17. No - Not yet, I think the numbers need to drop a bit more on the stats page, which can be done by JOINING THE DULSTON DESTRUCTION TOUR!!! --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 03:32, 11 May 2007 (BST)
    lol a little self promotion never hurt anyone. Me101 06:41, 17 May 2007 (BST)
    No - I dont think they are historical yet, mostly since they have 50 members still on the stats page.--JleggittMR 16:59, 15 May 2007 (BST) Vote posted past deadline. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 23:12, 18 May 2007 (BST)

Result - 24 voted Yes and 17 voted No. Rejected due to failure to meet at least 2/3 approval. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 23:12, 18 May 2007 (BST)

Cult of Cockfucktus

Of all the groups that got historical status while not holding a discussion, this is the one that puzzles me the most. It was a spinoff of the PA Rebel Alliance made to whine about not receiving reinforcements at Giddings Mall during Mall Tour '06, and lasted the incredible ammount of 2 days. Justification for historical status according to Saromu on the discussion page of said group is "Because of [this group] CMS-Meta was soon created". As far as it concerns me, it's dubious even if the CMS-Meta will make it to historical status when its time comes. Probably the mention of this group on the PA Rebel Alliance page is already enough honor for such a short lived group. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:03, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

  1. No - As stated above. Also note that this discussion should have been held before, but at the beggining this category did not held discussions and a handful of people added "historical" tags on the groups they though, deserved them. Everyone agrees that Mall Tour '06 have been historical without the need of any discussion, but this one... --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:03, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
    Since I don't think he's really nominated the cult, it seems to me that Matthew's protest or discussion prompt is more appropriate for this section, as opposed to the nomination and voting section. I think he's saying the Cult of Cockfucktus has misused or abused the historic page marker, and I am guessing that maybe he's making an effort to point out the wider potential abuse of said marker.--The Envoy 20:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
    In response to both your comments Envoy, where this discussion belongs is open to interpretation (some will point above, some will point just here). I just put it up above because it would hardly receive a discussion down here, but now that you placed the discussion here I'll wait for a third party to make the decission of where it has to be. Anyways, the one who tagged the group was probably User:Saromu, but I have to point out in his defense that it was before the guidelines for historical status were laid out, and that who did it doesn't matter: the issue here is that this group makes the Historical category look bad because good groups that held their ground for plenty of time don't get historical status with the excuse of "regional impact doesn't grant it", yet we have a ridiculous group that made it here without hardly any impact done on the game. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 03:51, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. No - Who...? I'm pretty sure I'd remember a name like that. Cyberbob  Talk  20:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
    The point is they already say they're historical. If Matthew wants to make a case about this, he should also ID whoever put the tag up on the page, if possible.--The Envoy 21:01, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. Waste of Time - Criterion 12.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 10:04, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. Spam - Gage 10:25, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  5. No Can We Even Discuss This? Err, what right do we have to remove historic status? This could set very very bad precedent. I mean eventually everything will fall under some understanding of criterion 12 since the majority of no votes tend to be justified with some variation of "never heard of them." Basically, those who live by the delete will themselves eventually die by the delete at the hands of the next generation of delete zealots.--The Envoy 03:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
    I'm trying to figure out why does this have historical status.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 04:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
    ... it doesn't anymore. I fixed that one.--Gage 04:17, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. No - Flogging MollyTinywhitemask.GIFPK 19:29, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. Yes - long live Cockfucktus! --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 01:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
    Are you serious? Just note that neither we are voting or I'm asking for the Speedydeletion of this group, but just to take off the Historical tags and start to honor groups that really deserve them with it, that was already done. Maybe you know the group, but you really think it's historical? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
    Well, we need a category to put these types of groups in, that are still interesting, and part of the history of the place, but not really "historical" (I mean, GANKBUS, historical, FFS? What does that say about the culture here?), so that they don't get speedydeleted one day when no one is looking, or voted into oblivion because [edit] only the old timers have heard of them any more -- boxy T L PA DA 06:13, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
    GANKBUS had a lot of impact on the UD world. If it's not historic, then the historical groups are a joke.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 06:20, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
    Indeed, I'm sure plenty agree... I think they were a bunch of asshat wiki vandals whose page should be kept, but not lauded as historical, and I'm suspect that there're plenty that agree with that too. I voted for BME down below, and I've a similar view of them (him). It seems the only way to ensure that the pieces of the history of this place don't just get canned when a couple of guys want to be the first to "serve it up to the asshats". History is being selectively deleted via popular demand. Vandals with unpopular targets get their egos stroked by being categorised with the likes of Mall Tour '06, The Many, The Pretorians, The Undying Scourge & the Shambling Seagulls while those that gave grief over long periods to the wiki "elite" are speedydeleted as soon as their page hits the month without an edit deadline -- boxy T L PA DA 06:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  8. No - Wha? Pillsy FT 10:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  9. Errr No... --MarieThe Grove 12:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. No Who now?--Labine50 MH|ME|P 00:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  11. NO who?--SexualharrisonMalton Rangers 17:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  12. No -- Even the name is stupid. -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 20:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  13. no they should be ineligible for nomination because of the controversy, above. Asheets 21:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  14. No What's a cockfuctus, I wonders. --Kamden 00:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  15. Yes - The CoC was at Mall Tour Caiger and was at war with Fazed. They had 30 members when it was created but with the end of the AoG, PARA, and The Two it has fallen apart. A lot of people here exclude news from 2005 because they weren't here. Because you don't know about it doesn't mean you can just toss it away. --Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 18:29, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  16. No - I didn't take these guys seriously when they were around, and I don't now.--Headless gunner 06:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
  17. No --Amanofpower CFT W! 18:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  18. Fuck no All they did was sit around, and they had no effect on the game, not even during the days they were active. --YuriRuler90 23:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
  19. No 2 days come on ppl, also what was their signifigance.. nothing Me101 22:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
  20. yes Asheets 00:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Zombie Inc

Never has a group so few been hated by so many for so long. Early zombie human co-op team. Pro zombie propagandists and healers. Credited by its enemies as the inventors of the "Zombie Bomb". Alliances with other more organized groups, some historically awarded, proved to be its downfall by fragmenting player focus. Will it's legacy live on... or are its crimes best forgotten?

  1. Yes bbrraaiinnss 14:50 17 February 2007 (GMT)
  2. Yes -Bullgod 05:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  3. No - I'd rather forget those guys. --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 05:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  4. Yes - Their page is really funny, and it sounds like they made a difference.--Lachryma 05:50, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  5. Yes - --Karloth Vois RR 18:55, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  6. Yes--Kristi of the Dead 20:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  7. Yes - I am pretty sure I have heard of them. - Whitehouse 21:02, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Interesting... ----ZombieSlay3rSig.png 21:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  9. Yes -Ashadoa 22:11, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
  10. Yes - I swear I saw these guys yesterday- they killed my mate, but then again these days I forget who is part of the z-team and whos a general nusinace. For sparking off a friendship between The Grove and 5punk and endlessly PKing The Grove Three Cheers to never having to see these guys again. --MarieThe Grove on Tour 16:04, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
    Just noting that the group is retired. Any players still claiming membership do so purely for sentimental reasons.bbrraaiinnss
    Knowing you are a member I voted Yes but then again none of you ever had Zombie Inc in your profiles really. Are you still playing now or not? --MarieThe Grove on Tour 15:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  11. Yes--Pillsy FT 10:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
  12. Yes--Kamden 00:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Results - 11 votes Yes 1 vote No. Rejected (didn't reach the 15 votes requeriment). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 03:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


This group was in Category:Historical Groups. It was placed there before mandatory voting to be included was made a rule. The group's sole aim was to pester a certain user. I doubt that they made a difference in game at all, and I want the community to vote on this issue. It isn't fair for a few players to decide what is historical and what isn't for the whole community.--Gage 19:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

  1. No - Gage 19:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  2. No - ASS made it to historical because they went beyond targeting Amazing. This guys did nothing but that, and in many not so agreeable ways. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 20:54, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  3. No --Jorm 20:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  4. No --Flogging MollyTinywhitemask.GIFPK 02:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  5. No - Vantar 04:31, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  6. No - Although I'd hate to see their bastardry speedydeleted, I don't think they fit here -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 05:02, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  7. No - Stop the madness. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 06:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  8. No - Putting a group in the "Historical Groups" category that solely targeted one individual is tantamount to an official condemnation of that individual. I don't think even Amazing would deserve that. --Specialist290 18:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  9. No - Hardly historical in-game, and of little public interest on the wiki. --MorthBabid 22:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  10. Yes They killed amazing..why not --Mayor Fitting 22:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  11. No - They had next to no impact in-game. Therefore, they can not be considered historical. The page may or may not be worthy of protection, but it certainly does not belong in historical groups. --Reaper with no name TJ! 17:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  12. No - The page shouldn't be in historical groups, but it is worthy of protection. --ZombieSlay3rSig.png 18:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  13. No - Hell no, only thing they should be remembered for was unjustified pking, lying, extreme amounts of unprovoked harassment, driving away one of the few intelligent beings on the wiki, they are the equivalent to terrorists and should be treated as such, nuff said --1 4 of CDF 05:34, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
  14. No --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 05:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
  15. No - No real contributions other than PKing us. --Zod Rhombus 06:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
    So you admit that PKing you was a contribution? Sorry, I had to say it =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 20:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  16. No -First, I'd never heard of them until now. Second, looking at the summary and seeing they rallied around pummeling one guy out of thousands, I can't see their influence as anything more than a drop in the bucket. --User:Eatatjoes 22:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  17. No - They had one hell of an impact on the wiki, for those around at the time. But they did basically nothing in the context of the game, and they aren't of interest to anyone who wasn't there at the time.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Results - 16 no, 1 yes. Rejected! Pillsy FT 10:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


Have you heard about this group ? Me neither. The All Zombie Team was here playing their deadly games long before most people here even dreamed about a zombie browser game... this is one of those groups that were forgotten by time, but that did a lot for the game during their generation. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 22:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

  1. yes - If you havent heard about them, its because they are historical. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 22:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. no - ...or, more likely, its because they did nothing of importance or historical significance. --Grim s-Mod U! 01:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
  3. no Surprisingly, as Grim --Agent White W!SGPCMS-MetaCMS 03:14, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
  4. Yes - Good lord, thats a name I haven't heard since I was a fledgling Zombie Jabber running around Mockridge Heights. They must have petered out soon after I started playing. --MorthBabid 23:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
  5. Yes - I have been playing UD longer than in the wiki, and I know of these guys. Full of character, they were. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 02:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  6. No - I just never heard of them and I'm amazed. I knew about every harman and zombie group at the time the group was around and I never heard of them. Not once. --Sir Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 05:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  7. No - I have not seen or heard of any impact from this group. --Flogging MollyTinywhitemask.GIFPK
  8. No - I haven't seen them or heard of them, and if they were historical I would have. --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 03:14, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
  9. No - --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 18:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
  10. No - Lemonhead7t7 00:30, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

The Ridleybank Revivification Front

Oh, as dumb as it may have sounded a lot of people, including myself, fell for this. We were fooled despite our better judgement knowing it was fake. Petro made this for April Fool's last year and we fell for it because Honest Petro would never pull a fast one on us. So this was a semi-big thing for harmanz who thought it was real. ----Sir Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 14:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

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  1. Yes - as above. --Sir Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 14:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. Yes - for a second, some zombies thought it was real too. >_> --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 16:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
  3. Yes - so long as the fact that it was a joke remains clear. So long as it isn't planned to occur again. Because things like that apparently aren't historical. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 16:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
    No - On consideration of votes below - was never a real group. Protect it as a RRF subpage after moving it, and link it from the April Fools page, but not an HG. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 22:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  4. No - Don't get me wrong. The page is worth saving, but as a historical group? It's a short lasting joke, a second like Hagnat put it, and it's impact on the way the game is played or otherwise contributed to the history of Malton should be elaborated. --Bonefiver 08:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  5. No - Not an Historical Group, not even an actual group, but a prank. It should be saved as a subpage of the Ridleybank Resistance Front and attain immortality when said group goes inactive, if such thing ever happens at all. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 08:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  6. No - It deserves to be saved, but not in this way. It was never a real group. --Reaper with no name TJ! 21:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  7. No - Speedy delete--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 21:48, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  8. No - No impact on the game. An april fools joke. Needs preserving though. --Grim s-Mod U! 01:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
  9. No As above, keep the page, just not historical--Agent White W!SGPCMS-MetaCMS 03:15, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
  10. No - A cute wiki-event that'll probably pop up in different veins, but not really in the spirt of being "historical". --MorthBabid 23:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
  11. Yes - Then we can come up with a policy to historically save wiki groups and this can go in it... Would that even work? --MarieThe Groveon Tour 17:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
  12. No - what matt and grim said.--Sexualharrison Malton Rangers Starofdavid2.png Mossad 19:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  13. No - It was a parody/April fools joke. Not a real group. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 02:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  14. No - As above, not an actual group, and therefore should be ineligible. Again, as above, this doesn't mean I'm not for keeping the page around. --Specialist290 21:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
  15. No - Flogging MollyTinywhitemask.GIFPK02:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
  16. No - archive as sub-page of RRF.--Jorm 10:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
  17. No - Doesn't even qualify, as it was technically just the RRF playing shenanigans. Make it a subpage. –Xoid MTFU! 10:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
  18. No - As above, it's a keeper but not a HG. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 01:08, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
  19. No - It's not a group. Lemonhead7t7 00:34, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


Drama whoring, zerging, vandalism, bad faith edits… is there any low they wouldn't sink to? I think not. They are historical purely because they are notorious for their misdeeds. –Xoid MTFU! 04:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

  1. Yes - As stated above. –Xoid 04:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. Yes - After reading Cyberbob's vote, vote changed to yes. Pillsy FT 09:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)No - Meh, they didn't really create a impact on the game IMHO. Pillsy FT 09:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. Yes - You're absolutely right, Pillsy. The impact the BME had is entirely on the metagame - yet that impact was large enough to warrant historical status IMHO. Cyberbob  Talk  09:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. Yes - They weren't famous, they were infamous.--Gage 09:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Mall Defence is difficult now, way too difficult... --MarieThe Grove 13:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. Yes - And as a Yagoton "citizen"? I apologize. :) --MorthBabid 20:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. No - It was a tiny group of petty zergers, and the only thing of any note that resulted from them was a load of drama when they were called on it. No, i dont feel like rewarding cheaters with the right to feel good and important because of their cheating. --Grim s-Mod U! 20:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  8. No - A group should be put on there for in-game achievements primarily. If they get on that list because of (and i quote) "Drama whoring, zerging, vandalism, bad faith edits", it should be clearly stated on their page. Otherwise, someone who will read their page will think they were a great group who had a huge impact on the game.--Denzel Washington 21:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
    Which is exactly what will happen. You know the NPOV statement you tried to place on their page but never could because they're a bunch of three year olds? Now's your chance. –Xoid MTFU! 10:10, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  9. No -- Sorry, never heard of them. -- Whitehouse 22:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes - although they were more hysterical, than historical -- boxy T L PA DA 23:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  11. No - Reward in-game impact here, not whatever you think it's funny. Please. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  12. No - Why, again, are we giving respect to a bunch of vandals by enshrining them forever in history? Let them be forgotten as worthless trash. --Ivan Romanov 05:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
    Because an NPOV statement will have to be left on their page once(if) historical status is achieved. Even the most NPOV statement on the planet couldn't gloss over their misdeeds. –Xoid MTFU! 10:10, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. No - Never heard of them. Therefore, I see no reason to glorify them --User:Eric Youngblood 09:54, 21 December 2006
  14. No - Self proclaimed cheaters/zergers should not be immortalized. SniffleNose 16:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  15. Yes - Bowel Movement Evacuation, YES! --The Envoy 04:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  16. No - Getting to force an NPOV statement on there page isn't good enough for me. They didn't do much worth remembering. Crit 12 will take care of them some day. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 13:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  17. No - Who? --Funt Solo Scotland flag.JPG 17:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  18. Yes - Remember Hitler? He'll never be forgotton for the terrible things he did (say, killing 6,000,000 Jews) This isn't as bad but it's worth remembering to laugh at them. --Whap 08:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
  19. Yes - Did i voted for this already ? Dont remember. But the BME page must be kept.--People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 23:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
  20. Yes - And rename it to "The biggest bag of bullshit evar".--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 23:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
  21. No --Empress of Moldovi 06:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  22. No - I have never heard of this group. --Flogging MollyTinywhitemask.GIFPK 03:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  23. No - No one mourns the wicked. Torec T-CC 04:10, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  24. No - Yet another bunch of attention-starved teenagers. Never heard of them and happy about it. Bluetigers 15:46, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
  25. Yes They were good in a bad way.Cisisero 03:47, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
  26. Yes This group will be infamous in Malton throughout the annals of time.. The reason is irrelevant. The fact is, they were here, and they made a stir. Remember them hwoever you like, but above all, remember them. --Aiden H 4H 05:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
  27. Fuck No - Amazing has more friends than this group has members.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 04:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  28. Yes - Oh, and by the way we need an Over-barricading Pricks template.!? --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 09:20, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  29. Yes - Nevar Forget. --The Supreme Court RR 23:57, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  30. Yes --Labine50 MH|ME|P 00:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  31. Yes - A thousand times yes. Build a grand monument. So that we may never tread the same dark paths we once treaded. -That's Why I did your Wife 19:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  32. No--Kristi of the Dead 23:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  33. yes Asheets 21:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
    Tally= 17 No 16 Yes Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 23:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
    Nomination failed. --Grim s-Mod U! 07:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The Bakers Of The Apocalypse

The Bakers did a lot of work down in Buttonville helping make it safe for other survivors. They also helped set up the Anti Smurf Brigade, a collalition of several survivor groups in the South West. As their closest allies, The Randoms would like to nominate this group to be added to the Historical Groups Page. -- Cheeseman W!ASBTalk 18:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

  1. Yes - my nomination, I vote yes. -- Cheeseman W!ASBTalk 19:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. Yes - --Dudemeister 19:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. Yes - --Shinosa 19:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. yes- --Sharline Jade
  5. Yes- --Pvt De ASBM.S.L.F 22:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Attentater 23:54, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Small area or not, they made a big impact on this area. Definitely historical. --Ruan 01:09, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  8. No - I have no idea who these guys are; Buttonville certainly isn't a suburb of note, yadda yadda yadda.--Jorm 22:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
    Re - They made a very big impact on the suburb and were very well known to the groups in the area. -- Cheeseman W!ASBTalk 23:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
    Yes, but we're talking about Buttonville. A suburb with a population of a few hundred a best. A suburb whose mall I took personally using just the Barhah Brigade and two other RRF strike teams. Anyone could have a big impact on that suburb merely by farting under the covers.--Jorm 00:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  9. No way - Gage 11:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. No - Never heard of them. --Absolution 11:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  11. Nadda - I refuse to believe they ever existed.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 11:29, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  12. Yes - They were actually pretty active when I first started UD in south central Malton. And they were always respected by all the locals. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 12:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. No - I agree with all of the other 'No's, they weren't that important. (and I led them for most of their existance :r ) --Aco11:53, 10 December 2006 (EST)
  14. No - Where is Buttonville again? -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 02:15, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  15. No - Who? –Xoid MTFU! 13:19, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  16. No - Never heard of them. Pillsy FT 13:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  17. No - Thwart the ASB vote rush. -- ∀lan Watson T·RVP 03:23, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
  18. No - Who are they? Who are they? Where did you find them? --MarieThe Grove 15:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
  19. No -I've only heard of them because they shared our radio frequency (which they didn't use.)Anachronos 15:39, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
  20. No- There was a group called Bakers of the Apcoalpyse? Axe27 15:40, 16 December 2006 (PST)
  21. No-Who? --Dickhole Bonaparte Leader, Malton Rangers 05:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
  22. No - Never heard of 'em. Cyberbob  Talk  05:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
  23. No - i have heard of them, but thats about it. i dont actualy remember them doing anything. -Bullgod 18:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
  24. No - Hadnt heard of you until i read this. --Grim s-Mod U! 13:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
  25. No - Amanofpower CFT W! 17:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
  26. No - Never heard of them.--J Muller 06:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  27. No -- I have never heard of them. -- Whitehouse 22:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  28. No - Regional impact does not a historical group make. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 13:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  29. No - who? --Funt Solo Scotland flag.JPG 17:27, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  30. 'fraid not - I would but since they only operated in 1 'burb then give them a lengthy article on the Suburb's page. They aren't well know enough. --Whap 09:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
    No - Flogging MollyTinywhitemask.GIFPK 22:45, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
    Vote after deadline struck. Pillsy FT 09:52, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Voting Closed - 23rd December 2006
  • Yes - 8
  • No - 22
  • Verdict - Rejected. Pillsy FT 09:52, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


Recently speedy deleted and apparently no more, this religous cult was one of the few New-Age religous death cults to exit in early Malton. Many survivors from UD's early days across no doubt remember the chilling proclomations of "IZONE is here to free you" moments before a shotgun-based massacre would occur. Akin to the Church of New Eden, this group represented one of the early bits of New-age zombie based religion in Malton. It's akin to the "cult of the bomb" in various apocolyptic movies. --MorthBabid 19:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

  1. Yes For stated reasons above, and the fact that I'm a big nerd for this stuff. :) --MorthBabid 00:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. No Two cults in less than a week? While IMHO I don't see why we're deleting any groups, other than perhaps to avoid their vandalism or misuse as misinformation or "ridiculous" props. However, if every page whose maintenance lapses can't be nominally "historical", I think it would be much more productive in this instance to flesh out this group's entry on Religion in Malton and let that serve as testimony, rather than give the defunct page some sort of protective status. Unless of course MorthBabid's claim is true the old timers of the game still have chilling memories of this cult.--The Envoy03:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
    The problem is that nobody seems to have done that and many of the entries on Religion in Malton are now lost for all time. I would have liked to read about The Ecclesiarchy Militant, The Holy Church of Malton, Head JAM Dojo, [[Lance of Rehel] and the others on that page but they are all gone now. Seems a shame. -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 09:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
    The Ecclesiarchy Militant is just one of numerous WH40K based groups. Apart from being one of those groups, they're completely non-notable. –Xoid MTFU! 08:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
    Mainly has to do with the hundreds of them. Most of the pages were small 1-2 person groups that last a day at the outside and their page stayed around for a year. If those "groups" bothered to nominate their pages for speedy deletion, criterion 12 would never have been written. There are almost innumerable cookie-cutter 'military themed' groups that lasted less than a week or two floating around here as well; all of which have horribly formatted, nearly empty pages and are often misleading to newbies. –Xoid MTFU! 14:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. No If they got SD'd and nobody moved to stop it, then they don't qualify Asheets 18:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
    Speedy deletions around here are fast. Sometimes within five minutes. We do not have a user base the size of Wikipedia and even they have had problems of this nature when there's been as much as five hours. If you genuinely think they are non-notable, fine, but using that as your criterion for non-notability easily allows history to be destroyed. –Xoid MTFU! 14:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. No - Sorry, never heard of them and never seen long time players speak of them. Pillsy FT 14:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  5. Yes - i liked those guys, they were in my opinion, as biassed as it may be, the perfect human group. -Bullgod 00:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. Yes - You know I have never heard of them either because I wasn't here, but the group concept is novel and I like the page. Its worth keeping for posterity. -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 08:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. No - Never heard of em--Gage 08:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  8. No - I've heard of them, and fought with them, but they never had a real effect on pretty much anything. --YuriRuler90 13:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  9. No - Never encountered them in game, never heard of their exploits. If they ever existed at all, they didnt even make a ripple. --Grim s-Mod U! 02:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes - only because they were a pain in Yagoton early in the game. One of the first groups to target revivers in Yagoton. --Nov W!, M, T 16:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  11. No - Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 12:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  12. 27 Yes, although they were PKers. Hitler was kown for mas genocide as well
    Note: Unsigned vote struck. –Xoid MTFU! 08:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. Yes - Ah, I remember working with these guys back in the day. Fun times. Completely depopulated the main NT building in Yagoton. - CthulhuFhtagn 10:44, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Dates after deadline stuck. (Deadline was 14/12/06). Pillsy FT 13:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Voting Closed - 14th December 2006
  • Yes - 4
  • No - 7
  • Verdict - Rejected, did no reach minimum 15 votes.

Pillsy FT 13:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

The Gray

The Gray started out as a group of zombie players from forums, somewhere around November/December 2005. The first targets ever were Ridleybank and Roachtown. At the top of our numbers we we're feared by many and we were the other group which made Mall Tour '06 possible. The group disbanded slowly as the Mall Tour was drawing closer and closer to Caiger Mall, and when Caiger was finally reached, we stayed there, two revivals were attempted with limited success. We never fully spilled over to another group tho. We just went on with our own bussiness. Our shout Zarbrahz! doesnt really need explanation either. The group is currently... more or less dead. We were one of the better testaments of close organisation as our "horde" sizes rarely we're over 10 zombies. We arent zombie ninja's for nothing. Or we were. - Rotticus 21:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

  1. Yes - These fellows were quite the memorable nucance. I thought they were absorbed into The Shining Ones, but apparently not. --MorthBabid 00:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. Yes - as a former member and leader, yes. I started as one of the Gray. Ah, the good ole days of zombie fun. --Rotticus 00:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. Yes - Just the mention of The Gray used to send the Crossman Defense Force into a panic. Of course they also have the Mall Tour and everything else under their belts, but that alone was enough for me. -- ∀lan Watson T·RVP 01:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. Yes - Gage 07:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Pillsy FT 14:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. Yes - One of the few groups to have been able to enter Caiger Mall, back when survivor's games were at their peak. Considering they were outnumbered more than 20-1, that's an impressive feat. –Xoid MTFU! 14:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. Yes - -Bullgod 23:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  8. Yes -- ^ Xoid has a point. --Apex 11:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  9. Yes - My group has a policy to try and preserve what ever possible of Maltons history, after all if it isn't on the wiki, it hasn't happened. --Obeah-Man 14:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
    Yeah, but a lot of stuff that is on the wiki hasn't happened either. Keep that in mind before making you force your group into idiocy via bad policy articulation.--The Envoy 14:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Assuming that they are indeed gone, they definitely got some notoriety.--The Envoy 14:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  11. Yes - Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 12:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  12. Yes - -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 05:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. Yes - As newbish as I am, even I've heard of these guys and some of the stuff they've done. --Zap 17:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  14. Yes- They got into caiger back in the day. That deserves historical status no matter who you are --Dickhole Bonaparte Leader, Malton Rangers 13:49, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
  15. Yes - Ah, memories. - CthulhuFhtagn 10:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Dates after deadline stuck. (Deadline was 14/12/06). Pillsy FT 13:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Voting Closed - 14th December 2006
  • Yes - 13
  • No - 0
  • Verdict - Rejected, did no reach minimum 15 votes.

Pillsy FT 13:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

The Corleone Family

As their leader, i think i have t priveldge to nomnate them, we had a good run folks let's try to move on.vito the don 15:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

  1. No - Didn't change anything about the game.--Gage 15:26, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  2. No - Sorry, I've heard of you but in my opinion you didn't change the game or have a lasting impact. Pillsy FT 16:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    • But you have heard of them haven't you? --MarieThe Grove 13:52, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. yes - i liked em. -Bullgod 21:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  4. No - ∀lan Watson T·RPM 21:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  5. No - What ∀lan said. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 22:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  6. No - What Max said. --Sgt. Expendable JG
  7. No - What Sgt. Expendable said. --Xoid 09:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
  8. No - What Thari said. --Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 09:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
  9. No - It looks more like you were a recently created close knit of friends that just stopped playing or were absorbed into larger groups. Perhaps you should merge your site info with another more apt current page? --MorthBabid 20:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
    Yes - In my defense the whole move to barville and ridleybank was mostly my idea Vito the don
    No timestamp. --Xoid 12:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes - What Labine may or may not have said.--Labine50 MH|ME|P 05:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  11. YES - Come on people don't be mean they have done stuff in Malton the NMC, Ridleybank, Barrville. All the stuff is on the page. If we odn't save it, it would be deleted and I think thats a waste of their efforts. --MarieThe Grove 13:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  12. yes I thought you were still active. Asheets 18:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. Yes Vito and the Corleone Family worked behind the scenes with me when we started bringing the fight to the zombies. He and the Malton Rangers were really the motivating force behind the Channel 4 News Team and the whole of the NMC's invasion(s) of Barrville and Ridleybank. If that's a historical change or action (I think it is), then this is a historical group. --Ron Burgundy 01:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  14. No - Never heard of you. Person putting it up form nomination uses the present tense in naming himself as the leader, which seems to indicate the group is still active, which would immediately rule it out of consideration anyway. --Grim s-Mod U! 10:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
    • - Vito is the groups leader he is still active but the group isn't. Simple. They are part of the NMC. --MarieThe Grove 17:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  15. Yes - The Corleone's didn't do much on the surface, but as Ron said they worked a lot behind the scenes to motivate the C4NT and the Malton Rangers in the battles around Blackmore and later Ridleybank. --Gethsemani 11:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  16. No From what I have heard of previous groupe members it wasn't even a real group, just a loose coalition that really didn't do all that much. Made no noticable difference in either blackmore battles, and didn't ever make the stats page. To sum it all up, AHAHAHAHAHAHAH ARE YOU KIDDING ME? --Dickhole The Great 22:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
    Dickhole, you we'ren't here in the glory days of the corleone's in fact, you got here during the decline, , so whatever you know it dosen't matter, we made the stats page for 3 striaght months with 16 people and some yes did not listen to the groups current were abouts but 10 of them did and if that person is priz, i didn't try to command him. DGH shut up.
    I'm assuming you're vito. I'm not going to get into this with you. My vote is no, and its not changing--Dickhole The Great 23:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
    it's not even that, it's just you we'ernt htere for out historical impact, so you know nothing about it
    Dickholeguy isn't it a bit odd that you use the NMC Template saying you are part of the NMC etc etc get you refuse to vote for a group that is/was an active part of the NMC into historical groups? Its hardly supportive. --MarieThe Grove 10:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
    dhg thinks im a bad leader and a horrilble person, he's got some issues
    Well thats not very nice is it? I think its a shame that this group won't be remembered properly. Where have the old members of your group gone- have they left or been absorbed into C4NT? Do you know what happened to Tony Blair aftre the AoG fiasco? --MarieThe Grove 15:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
    Could you please sign your posts? ~~~~ is all it takes. -- ∀lan Watson T·RVP 03:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
    whatever happend to the aog, we split up, and im mad that i will have no lasting legacy it ticks me off to no endVito The Don
  17. No Pretty sure it didn't change anything--Agent White W!SGPCMS-MetaCMS 02:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Voting Closed - 13th December 2006
  • Yes - 6
  • No - 11
  • Verdict - Rejected

Pillsy FT 15:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

The Banzai Institute for Advanced Armored Warfare

One of the earlier groups in the game, and a very early example of an pre-existing community coming enmasse into the game. I think the recent victories of Shacknews is evidence enough of how important this phenomenom is to the game -- ∀lan Watson T·RPM 10:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Voting ended 5th December, rejected as did not get the minimum 2/3rd of yes votes. Pillsy FT 10:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  1. No - I've never heard of them myself since I've been in UD and no-one has spoken about them in the places I frequent. Unless someone can give me something to go on it has to be no.Pillsy FT 10:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  2. No - Who? –Xoid MTFU! 15:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  3. No - Another slight case of who the hell are you? --MarieThe Grove 17:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  4. No - What Marie said. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 17:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  5. No - Fut the wuck?--Gage 18:23, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  6. No - But only because I never heard of 'em ;) -Certified=InsaneQuébécois 23:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  7. No - Never heard of them. Has _anyone? Daniel Hicken 02:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  8. No --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 03:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  9. Yes -- ∀lan Watson T·RPM 07:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  10. No --Officer Otep 12:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)+
  11. Yes -- but only because of the grafitti tactics they used... Asheets 21:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  12. No -- Lame.--Mayor Fitting 23:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
    Gotta sign--Gage 23:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  13. No - --Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 03:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  14. No --Mr yawn Scotland flag.JPG 06:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
  15. No - I need to have heard of them for them to be historical.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 11:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
  16. No - Never heard of them. Not sure of their intentions. And I would only be surprised if they could hijack tanks in the game.--11:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
  17. No - Who now?--Labine50 MH|ME|P 06:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  18. Yes - The group appears to be a historical one. User:Juri Arisugawa 09:26 29 November 2006
  19. No - Didn't this group simply get absorbed into larger groups? --MorthBabid 20:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
  20. yes Still some talk about then in-game. Asheets 18:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I've heard of them, but only because they play Mechwarrior and worship Wombats (it's hard to explain.) Axeman89 03:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Bela Lugosi Fan Klub

Early zombie group, small but well-coordinated. I think they projected a pretty decent amount of presence in their day despite their numbers. -- ∀lan Watson T·RPM 10:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Voting ended 5th December, voting failed as failed to get the minimum 15 votes. Pillsy FT 10:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  1. No - See my reasoning above, exactly the same for this group. Pillsy FT 10:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  2. Yes - purely because they're likely still around. They have a history of "disappearing" for two or so months, then, bam! A flurry of activity. –Xoid MTFU! 15:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  3. NO - A slight case of who the hell are you? --MarieThe Grove 17:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  4. Yes I just liked their page. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 17:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  5. Yes -- ∀lan Watson T·RPM 07:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  6. Yes - I've heard of them, good enough for me. --Officer Otep 12:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  7. No -- Never heard of them before this. --Mayor Fitting 23:55, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
    Gotta sign.--Gage 23:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
  8. No - --Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 03:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  9. No-They're still active, I was killed by one in fort perryn--Dickholeguy 19:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
  10. Yes - I didn't know they disbanded...--Labine50 MH|ME|P 06:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  11. Yes - I've run across these guys before in Yagoton, but didn't think they were gone? --MorthBabid 20:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
  12. yes Asheets 18:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. yes --- What Max Grivas said -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 08:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

The Movie Club

The last edit on the page was in August, announcing the group had disbanded (and the last edit before that one was months old). I don't know if the Movie Club ever played a significant role in the zombie/human balance of power, but in my opinion the group had a fun RP purpose, and one that obviously appeals to other players (as shown by the Now Playing and Cinema Status pages). Most of the abandoned group pages that get deleted are indistinguishable "Kill all zombies/survivors" groups, but this one had more going for it, and I'd like to see it preserved if there's support. --Paul Brunner 21:10, 28 October 2006 (BST)

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  1. No - I haven't ever heard of them. Anyone else? --MarieThe Grove 12:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  2. No - I've seen some of what they did, not really memorable though --Lord Evans 16:14, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  3. Yes - Still, I think they're a good role model for folks interested in exploring something other than hack and slash AP calc in this game.--The Envoy 03:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  4. No - I saw their wiki pages and sprays around Malton. Neat RP, not game altering. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 17:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Maybe not earth shattering but unique concept and nice flavor. -- TexasFlag.gif BubbaT 08:28, 31 October 2006
  6. No - A small and mostly insignificant group, did not make the Now Playing and Cinema Status pages. --Officer Otep 12:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  7. No - I've heard of them, but only because I randomly stumbled accross their Wiki page one day. --SirensT RR 12:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  8. No - Respect to them for actually RPing, but until today? I didn't have a clue who they were...--Flatliner 14:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  9. Yes Too bad it wasn't maintained better, because it was unique RP. I wish somebody would claim it as their own and run it as a current group (I would, but I don't have time). Asheets 16:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  10. No - I don't belive they actually made an impact ingame. Otherwise I would vote yes. Pillsy FT 14:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  11. Yes - There are more ways to make an impact on the game than just killing lots of other players. Maybe a lot of people haven't heard of the Movie Club, but what they started could turn into a city-wide trend. --Naveen Andrews 18:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  12. No - I like their concept, but I don't think I'd include them if I were tracking the history of the game, which is what I think the Historical Groups section should do. -- Alan Watson T·RPM 12:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  13. No - I agree with almost everything Naveen Andrews said, but the fact of the matter is, they didn't make an impact on the game. If you're going to be a historical group, you need to have been a group that most people knew about. Great concept and I love that their main purpose was RPing, but they just didn't make a big impact. Admirable but not historical. --Dorian Miller 06:57, 3 November 2006
  14. Yes - Sorry to hear they disbanded!--Labine50 MHG|MEMS 06:46, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
  15. no - not important and don't have anything to do with the process of the game, like RPing then take it elsewhere -sonic

Squad Zulu

One of the oldest and one of the most effective beginning groups, Squad Zulu has shaped past Malton politics, including those with the CoL and DARIS. --YuriRuler90 01:09, 28 October 2006 (BST)

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  1. No - two edits to their wiki page? How about no?--Gage 01:15, 28 October 2006 (BST)
  2. Yes - Those two edits match up with the statement that this squad disbanded in the "mid months of 2006". Good enough for me. --MorthBabid 05:52, 28 October 2006 (BST)
  3. No - If its part of CoL shouldn't it already be listed under historical groups? Can't we just attach it to there? --MarieThe Grove 12:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
    RE - It's not a direct part of the CoL. --YuriRuler90 21:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  4. No - I was, by no means, around at the time the CoL and early days of Urban Dead but I still looked deeply into history. I don't remember hearing a thing about Squad Zulu. –Xoid MTFU! 03:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  5. No - For the same reasons as Xoid. --Officer Otep 12:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  6. No - I know they were loosely connected to the CoL, but other than occassionally hearing "Ia! Ia!" and seeing it in people's sigs, I never heard of anything they did. --SirensT RR 12:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  7. No Asheets 16:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  8. No --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 18:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  9. No - Never heard of them. Pillsy FT 14:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  10. No - With a caveat. Personally I'm sort of sick of all this "sekrit operation" BS I've seen built into all the CoL stuff. If you include more information, like your roles in the battles or the formation and composition of the group then I'd gladly change my vote. I've been sort of interested in just what the big deal about the CoL was but the wiki pages on the subject are useless. -- Alan Watson T·RPM 12:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  11. Yes- I remember squad zulu back when i started, a time when i once left my character outside overnight for a number of days with no worry of dying. Before "closing doors" and "barricading" were even thought of :p --Rizo299 18:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
  12. Yes - I remember these guys. Most of the earlier groups are historical by virtue of their being groups at all. --Ron Burgundy 17:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
  13. Yes - Even I've heard of them.--Labine50 MHG|MEMS 06:47, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
  14. Yes - I remember them. --Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 23:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
  15. Yes - They were much talked about in those early days when I started out. Maybe none of the noobs know anything about them, but hey, that's because they're history. Whether they did anything or not is irrelivant. They could have had no active members for all I care, they had a strong presence in early UD. Smelly wet fish 23:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Ars Requiem

Many long time players should recognize the signifacance of this once great Zombie Group. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 17:00, 4 October 2006 (BST)

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  1. Yes --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 17:00, 4 October 2006 (BST)
  2. Yes - I'll wait until confirmation of Marie's claim. Then again, if they're operating under a new name and are not claiming ties to their old group, doesn't that make Ars Requiem a defunct group by default? –Xoid STFU! 17:13, 4 October 2006 (BST)
    Well I was thinking about that a few days back. Techinally I suppose it does mean that but well I'm confusing myself now but well if its the same group under different name isn't it the same? --MarieThe Grove 16:28, 13 October 2006 (BST)
  3. No - Ars Requiem have not split up, I repeat they have not ended. They have taken to undercover operations under the name of Zombie Inc.. or the group name Z-Team. Their talk pages have 'conversions between them' but they are the same people. I've spent hours looking into it after they invaded Judgewood months ago under a different group names pretending to be part of 5punk. --MarieThe Grove 17:21, 4 October 2006 (BST) Yes - Well what I say is true but I can see peoples point of view that if its under a new name then this one isn't active so I withdraw and I'm changing my vote for it :) --MarieThe Grove 18:10, 16 October 2006 (BST)
    Are you certain? Try asking them directly, tell them why you're asking of course, and report back. –Xoid STFU! 17:25, 4 October 2006 (BST)
    Well I can show you some of the private stuff The Grove found on this, Its dodgy but it does match up. I'd love to ask Ars Requiem if they are part of Zombie Inc. but hell they know I know and they've never denied it. Amyone know how to contact Ars Requeim because have no idea how we found this stuff. To save space and stuff on this in case it ends up being really long I'll put it on my talk page now. --MarieThe Grove 20:10, 4 October 2006 (BST)
  4. No -- Well that's good enough for me.Labine50 MHG|MalTel 15:11, 5 October 2006 (BST)
  5. Yes --TheCure 08:00, 6 October 2006 (BST)
  6. No--Whats the point?--Mayor Fitting 05:11, 8 October 2006 (BST)
  7. Yes -- I'm going to say yes unless a member of Ars Requiem comes forward and says they are still active. Pillsy FT 10:53, 9 October 2006 (BST)
  8. Yes -- And I'll tell you why... Even if the people who were Ars Req is still active, they are not active under that name. Since that indeed means that Ars Req is not active, that means the group page is subject to deletion. Since I don't want that to happen the Ars Req page needs to be inducted into the "Historical Group" category. Conndrakamod T CFT 12:14, 13 October 2006 (BST)
  9. Yes As Conndraka. --Ron Burgundy 07:22, 14 October 2006 (BST)
  10. Yes I had some good times in East Boundwood with these guys running around back in the day. Good times. -- Alan Watson T·RPM 19:03, 15 October 2006 (BST)
  11. Yes Heard enough stories--Agent White WTFW!SGPCMS-MetaCMS 02:44, 15 October 2006 (BST)
  12. Yes No new offensives or news since 2/06, and the page itself says they are fairly inactive. Asheets 00:11, 17 October 2006 (BST)
Voting Failed. (less than 15 votes) --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 20:24, 24 October 2006 (BST)

Many of these groups still exist. Historical Groups are only for Groups that No longer exist. Someone needs to set a policy for this. --Rogue 09:52, 8 July 2006 (BST)

I'm wondering aabout the validity of this category too. Some of these groups I've never heard of before today. --SirensT RR 01:49, 24 July 2006 (BST)
Because they're old...? Sonny Corleone WTF 01:51, 24 July 2006 (BST)

I would nominate the original CoL for this category, but they don't really fit the 'had a big effect on the game' category. They did, however, have a big impact on the unofficial forums and gave the impression of having an effect, so perhaps they should be included. notthemilkybarkid 19:34, 10 August 2006 (BST)

Well, I think the "New" CoL would qualify as a Historical Group, and they were created because of the Original CoL. I say yes. --SirensT RR 00:25, 11 August 2006 (BST)
The original CoL is apparently back so they are no longer historical. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 02:28, 21 August 2006 (BST)