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The nomination of any group that succeedes voting of historical status should be moved from Category talk:Historical Groups to here.

Contents 1 Crossman Defense Force 2 Flat Earth Society 3 Liberation of Crossman Department 4 Roftwood Assault Force 5 The Second Big Bash 6 The Caiger Resistance Front 7 The Dark Order of Armageddon 8 Ghetto Cow 9 Amish Liberation Front 10 Mall Tour '07 11 St. Valentine's Cherubs 12 Dulston Defense Death Squad 13 FedCom 14 Disciples of Zeko 15 Blackmore Bastard Brigade 16 Big Bash 17 Pwotters 18 The Emerald Guard 19 Assault on Stupid Survivors 20 The Gray 21 Shacknews 22 Malton DEA 23 Ars Requiem 24 Paradox 25 Tompson Mall Irregulars 26 Church of New Eden 27 The Shining Ones 28 Randallbank Coalition 29 LUE

[edit] Crossman Defense Force

Crossman Defense Force (the 'other' CDF) has had a long and varied history since its inception in Fall of 2005. It has been one of the oldest continuously operating groups in the game. While we have fought alongside survivors for the duration of our existence, we have participated in the First, Second and Third Sieges of Caiger Mall. We have also defended at the Battle of Blackmore as well as many other smaller skirmishes, mainly those in and around the northwest corner. We have always had a presence in Darvall Heights as well as the surrounding suburbs. We have been an enemy and a friend to our splintered faction, the Liberation of Crossman Department. The Crossmen have always welcomed survivors in their path.

The exploits of our former leader and my predecessor, Amazing, will be remembered for years to come. Amazing led to the direct creation of GANKBUS, Assault on Stupid Survivors and The Faggots, three notorious griefer groups in-game. Amazing changed how the wiki was used, for the better AND worse, and the Crossmen became a target because of it. I have tried, in my time as leader, to distance our group from such tactics and resolve conflicts peacefully. Our spiritual home, Crossman Grove Police Dept., has been the scene of turmoil and conflict for some time.

Now the time has come for the Crossmen to embark toward the sunset in order to explore new directions. I hope to achieve historical status for Crossman Defense Force to show others the conflict, strife and perseverance of one of the oldest groups around, not to mention the impacts our members had on the game.

Thank You for your support. --Zod Rhombus 20:31, 5 July 2008 (BST)

1. Yes - Author vote if allowed. --Zod Rhombus 20:31, 5 July 2008 (BST)
2. No - Ye gods. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 20:57, 5 July 2008 (BST)
3. Yes - I voted yes because Zod is a good guy and I trust him.--Xan2020 21:32, 5 July 2008 (BST)

   Not because of anything to do with the faction, of course. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 00:25, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   If only I trusted people that easily. I have reviewed the facts in detail. I am by no means an idiot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xan2020 (talk • contribs) .

   Nice job splitting my sig up, you fucking mong. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 03:56, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   I'm sorry, I'm just not good with wiki formatting. No need to be rude.--Xan2020 04:13, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   Cyberbob is one of the local trolls, xan, no need to apologize to him or even pay attention for whatever comes out of his mouth. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^talk 04:20, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   Hagnat is one of the failed sysops who couldn't take the pressure of his own constant fuck-ups, xan, no need to actually give a shit. (By the way, Haggy, weren't you going to go find a life or something?) --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 04:49, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   Take it to the talk pages folks. This is not the place. --Zod Rhombus 05:46, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   Yeah. Hagnat is the failed sysop, Cyberbob... DanceDanceRevolution 06:05, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   Damn straight he is. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 10:40, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   Cyberbob never got his chance, people couldn't get over the fact that someone like him could be a successful Sysop... fucktard...--/~Rakuen~\^Talk 02:24, 7 July 2008 (BST)

   I'll call the whambulance... I didn't know I hit a nerve :P DanceDanceRevolution 01:23, 14 July 2008 (BST)

4. Yes - many groups created to harass this group (its leaders, specially). It was a well known group in 2005 and early 2006, and faded from public in the latter years... --People's Commissar Hagnat ^talk 01:07, 6 July 2008 (BST)
5. Yes - They were at Blackmore, so that's good enough for me.--Dedling 23:50, 8 July 2008 (BST)
6. Yes - One of the oldest and still active groups. Hatama 02:07, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   If it is still active then its something it should NOT be voted 'yes' for. DanceDanceRevolution 06:05, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   Not active. I am the leader and I am disbanding the group. --Zod Rhombus 06:20, 6 July 2008 (BST)

   I thought Amazing was leader... --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 06:38, 6 July 2008 (BST)

7. No --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 06:36, 6 July 2008 (BST)
8. Yes - Well-known enough --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 11:11, 6 July 2008 (BST)
9. Yes - Deserving. And notice the green, warty skin of the no-voters... Damn their regeneration powers!!! --WanYao 13:56, 6 July 2008 (BST)
10. Yes - Absolutely. We shared same roots even though we split ways. We shared together many operations, defended Darvall Heights many times together when LCD was still operating West-North. As both allies and enemies, CDF have shown to me their tenacity, dedication and will to fight the good fight. DarthRevan 18:44, 6 July 2008 (BST)
11. Yes - I remember these guys from two years ago. --Scorpios 19:54, 6 July 2008 (BST)
12. Yes --Kikashie ^{Read the Dispatch!} 22:45, 6 July 2008 (BST)
13. Yes - I remember hearing about these guys and I almost never go up North.--Labine50 ^{MHG|MEMS|TMO|On Tour!} 02:10, 7 July 2008 (BST)
14. No - North is for Extinction, not some willy-nilly survivor group that is only famous cause of Amazing--/~Rakuen~\^Talk 02:24, 7 July 2008 (BST)
15. No - Never heard of you - GS 03:35, 7 July 2008 (BST)
16. Yes - Good group worthy of historical status.--Lord Wulfgar 04:40, 7 July 2008 (BST)
17. Yes - As all the resounding "yes's" above. We shall be sorry to see you go, but the CDF are in definite need of historical status. --Private Mark 05:09, 7 July 2008 (BST)
18. Yes Conndraka^{mod TTBA CFT} 06:58, 7 July 2008
19. Yes Everything said above summaries it why I vote yes. Extinction can kiss my ass. --Johnny Rico 13:25, 7 July 2008 (BST)
20. Yes Wow, end of an era... they've been around since almost the beginning... I vote Yes... --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 02:17, 8 July 2008 (BST)
21. No - Didn't do anything Historical, being an old group does not mean automatic historical status.--KOOKY 16:11, 8 July 2008 (BST)
22. Yes- This group was a bit before my time but it's obviously historical. --Moctezuma 18:04, 8 July 2008 (BST)
23. Yes - Never liked or respected them much but they were well known enough to qualify. --Riseabove 01:01, 9 July 2008 (BST)
24. No - I have never heard of them but i suggest they get one more year before getting that status. -- Gorfox 7:05, 8 July 2008 (CST)
25. Yes 2005 and still activish is good enough for me. --Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|Extinction||MU|GN|C2008||02:22, 9 July 2008 (BST)
26. Yes - Allies, enemies, doesn't matter much to me. All I know they are here from almost the very begining, they did the job good and fought well. If it wasn't for moronic griefers, this group would have been in it's prime now, me thinks. If it wasn't for LCD, I would have been a CDF. Viva Darvall Heights. Quoting someone "sometimes something is historical just for the sake of being old", not only that, they deserve it. --Sev 07 14:29, 9 July 2008 (BST)
27. Yes - 2005-2008 is enough for me. --BoboTalkClown 01:09, 10 July 2008 (BST)
28. Yes I really don't like Zod, but the group did a good job. --MadMoneyMike 02:38, 10 July 2008 (BST)
29. Yes - I heard of the group. I might have seen some of their work. They're worthy for historical status. --Axe Bullet killed Axe Hack!!! 17:45, 10 July 2008 (BST)
30. Yes - Why Not. --The Candy Man 11:45 July 2008
31. Yes --Karek^maps?! 17:46, 12 July 2008 (BST)
32. Yes, heard of them. - User:Whitehouse 18:48, 12 July 2008 (BST)
33. Yes -  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  10:06, 13 July 2008 (BST)
34. Pass--Zaphord 06:29, 21 July 2008 (BST)

Passed 29 Affirmative, 5 Negative (85.2%) Conndraka^{mod TTBA CFT} 11:16, 21 July 2008 (BST)

[edit] Flat Earth Society

The Flat Earth Society has come to an end after over a year and a half of bringing Truths to Malton that no one else would. The FEZ stands unique in the history of Malton, being the only group to have educated about the perils of flouridation, barcodes, and of course the lies that people so readily accept about the shape of the Earth. With allies and enemies, generally interchangeable, that span the range from the Dulston Alliance to the Philosophe Knights, we have spread our message from one corner of the city to the other, and points in between. Our colorful history with the rest of Malton ranges from boasting the only member of the Council of Leaders to have been elected and then summarily impeached to having Uncle Zeddie defend our good name. -- Bartemius 01:25, 16 June 2008 (BST)

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1. Yes - Naturally I believe my own nomination is worthy of a historical place. --Bartemius 01:43, 16 June 2008 (BST)
2. Yesh - :D --/~Rakuen~\^Talk 01:45, 16 June 2008 (BST)
3. Yes - we nominate the Historical Groups for Flat Earth Society Status (as is our duty as leaders). --The Supreme Court reads Daily Ruminations 01:45, 16 June 2008 (BST)
4. Yesse - 'Tis the end of an era... my group has had many dealings with the FEZ, from the peaceful to the not-so-peaceful. But I learned a lot from the group- about AP efficiency, bar codes, and of course the importance of family. It is also notable that the FEZ initiated the first siege of the supreme court- losses were heavy, on both sides, but in the end we were all saved by a helicopter. I mean... they. They were all saved by a helicopter. The point is, since I met these guys, not once have I used a zipper. They were also deemed KOS by the Dulston Alliance, and widely regarded as a PKer group, in spite of not technically being one. And with the high level of objectivity, and standards of evidence, enforced by the Dulston Alliance- that was indeed historical. Surely, they were the only group in history to be so wildly mis-categorized.--ØxØ 01:54, 16 June 2008 (BST)
5. Yes - I always felt a bit like their leader. --the wallaby^♥ 01:56, 16 June 2008 (BST)
6. Aye - As leader of the Flat Earth Society, I am in favor. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 02:07, 16 June 2008 (BST)
7. Yes - Where would Malton be without Susie and some flair? As for impact Dulston Alliance and the P.Knights (Sp?) with such a rocky relationship --Virus002 03:24, 16 June 2008 (BST)
8. Yes - Plaudite, amici, comedia finita est. --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 07:40, 16 June 2008 (BST)
9. Most Certainly - The most Ignorant, Backwards group in Malton, and one of the most memorable for their antics. --DT^PK 15:48, 16 June 2008 (BST)
10. Yea Verily Yea --Vandr 18:41, 16 June 2008 (BST)
11. Yes - one thousand times, yes. -- Fingersmith 18:59, 16 June 2008 (BST)
12. Yes[Keep] - Nerfs Non-Pkers. -- GS 04:19, 17 June 2008 (BST)
13. Yes --Pibbit 06:35, 17 June 2008 (BST)
14. Yes - You made me throw away my radios. --Kikashie ^{Read the Dispatch!} 07:14, 17 June 2008 (BST)
15. Yes - Worthy. --WanYao 07:18, 17 June 2008 (BST)
16. Yes - For all the reasons stated above. --Axe Bullet killed Axe Hack!!! 16:18, 17 June 2008 (BST)
17. Yes - A vote against is a vote for bar codes! --Goofy McCoy ^{mfd t} 16:53, 17 June 2008 (BST)
18. Yip Although i did vote for Ron Burgundys Pacman in Malton Suggestion.--Rosslessness 17:03, 17 June 2008 (BST)
19. YUSS --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 17:26, 17 June 2008 (BST)
20. yes --Sir WV 01:09, 18 June 2008 (BST)
21. No--Luke Skywalker 16:50, 18 June 2008 (BST)
22. Indeed -- Iscariot ^{GC PK WTE} 22:31, 18 June 2008 (BST)
23. Yes - Pretty funny group. --ZsH 00:13, 19 June 2008 (BST)
24. Yes - Great group. Throws a hell of a good party.--KF 20:29, 21 June 2008 (BST)
25. Sure Why not? ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|Extinction||MU|GN|C2008||00:06, 22 June 2008 (BST)
26. Yes - Great group with many many many great leaders :P --Jellofun 04:29, 22 June 2008 (BST)
27. Yus - ogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogog --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 18:17, 24 June 2008 (BST)
28. Sí (Yes) - ¡Más vale cholo, que malo acompañado!  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  18:29, 24 June 2008 (BST)
29. Yes - --Cyles 11:20, 1 July 2008 (BST)

Passed 28 For 1 Against (97 %) Conndraka^{mod TTBA CFT} 06:34, 2 July 2008 (BST)

[edit] Liberation of Crossman Department

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Our story starts when the Church of the Resurrection attacked one night three years ago Crossman Dept. LCD was one of the oldest groups in UD and it saddens me that it's over now but everything has an end. There might be many people who currently don't know us since we haven't been active as of late and our death has been a slow one. We participated in numerous battles, fought countless times all over Malton and assisted many human groups. Our main role used to be to defend Darvall Heights but because of misunderstandings and conflicts with CDF (Crossman) we became a nomadic "not holding in one place for too much time" group. Helped the YRC in Yagaton together with The Abandoned, participated in Operation: Lazarus, participated in all the Caiger sieges, assaulted many times Ridleybank together with the Gingerbread men, Dangermouse made this funny article about us RRF article, participated in the Battle of Blackmore. Later as our relationship with CDF (Crossman) became much positive, we returned to our roots and defended numerous sieges of Darvall Heights. Held Roywood for about a month and gained considerable number of members until we left for Roftwood as the first member of SSZ to help build this survivor heaven. Here is a list of part of the LCD operations here : archive. Having said that I think we deserve our little corner in the history of UD.

It's been hell of a three years for us, I hope some older members that remember us are still here. Having said this I am downcast to see the end of LCD and of my time here in UD. Thank you all for making it such an experience.

1. Yes - Assuming I can vote on my own submission. (Cortonna) DarthRevan 15:52, 9 June 2008 (BST)
2. No - Despite many, many dealings with the CrossmanDF (now there's a blast from the past) I've never heard of you. Given your positive relationship with them I'm going to assume most of you have the IQ of an average 5-year-old and the emotional stability to match. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 15:53, 9 June 2008 (BST)

   That's funny... as longtime leader of the Crossmen, I don't recall these dealings. However, given your track record, I don't think anyone takes you seriously. --Zod Rhombus 06:39, 11 June 2008 (BST)

   Does the name ASS ring any bells? --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 06:50, 11 June 2008 (BST)

   Sorry, I dealt with Xoid and Gage in ASS, you must have slipped under my radar. I don't seem to remember anything of any consequence (remember, I had the ASS member alt roster). Anyway, this has nothing to do with the vote, so please contact me on my talk page for further communication. --Zod Rhombus 18:42, 11 June 2008 (BST)

3. Yes - this voting should have took place year ago. too long since we disbanded, eons from our glory days. there are not many left who remember --~~~~ [talk] 16:45, 9 June 2008 (BST)
4. No - Old doesnt mean historical, participating in allegedly historical happenings doesnt make you historical. You have provided no grounds upon which the group actually did something new and original or even excelled in mundane things. Unlike many people here, i actually do remember you, but mostly because of a series of PM's on the desensitised board back when you were fighting it out with Amazings gang, and because i have a near encyclopedic memory. Im sick of people misusing historical groups to get average groups in, and im sick of voters voting based on affiliation and/or perceived popularity or coolness rather than based on the facts. This is not historical and doesnt deserve that status. It did nothing new, it wasnt an enterprising group, and you caused minimal drama, which didnt even rate a blip compared to the amazing drama here on the wiki and elsewhere. The LCD was simply just another humdrum background group in the game and deserves no special status. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 16:49, 9 June 2008 (BST)
5. Yes - Cyberbob240 making assumptions about our IQ and emotional stability based only on what you mentioned doesn't really speak well of you also. Never heard of us and voting NO, okay got nothing against that. And Grim, I am voting because I think it so ( yes I have read your thoughts on Wiki voting as well) and not because I used to be part of the group. The requirements for going historical are met, there are quite a few groups that haven't done anything original or new that are still there nonetheless. I honestly believe we contributed to the UD community in the past and those that worked together with us can support this. Having said that I have nothing against anyone, I just wish that before people make assumptions they actually back up their words with proofs. We might not be on the same opinion, but that doesn't make yours intrinsically valid (or mine in that regard either), historical act is something abstract isn't it? Constructive discussion, we have right? We had more then enough share of battles and everything that goes with it. We helped SSZ as the first group to join the cause, together with our allies to make it what it is today. Johnny Rico 17:15, 9 June 2008 (BST)
6. Yes I don't see where "New and Original" is part of the requirements. And speaking as a history teacher, sometimes something that is old does in fact qualify as historical just for being old. Moving on from that, "Back in the day..." I remember hearing a lot of chatter about LCD activities, even had the opportunity to assist them once, so yes... Most definitely historical. Conndraka^{mod TTBA CFT} 17:32, 9 June 2008 (BST)
7. Yes - What Johnny Rico and Conndraka said. Some of us are actually mature enough to make level-headed decisions without being biased or voting just because they once had the same affiliation, wow is it so hard? And Grim in my perspective I don't see what's so historical in FOBU or the Iron Cross Brothers or the Disciples of Zeko for that matter. It's a matter of perspective isn't it? Wiki and in-game are two different things, as well. LCD wasn't an one week group of few individuals, it was a three years old group who actively contributed and helped the survivors community and with all the things Cortonna brought up, I believe that yes, LCD has it's little corner in the history of UD. PS. Another article depicting LCD activity, [1] --Sev 07 17:39, 9 June 2008 (BST)

   I dont know about the others, but FOBU was a brilliantly executed hoax upon the creedyites that successfully drove them up the walls for months. It ended when Hungerer took down the fort and kept it down for a protracted period of time and i lost interest. In this way it was new, unique, and extremely interesting. Several groups actually formed for the express purpose of hunting down FOBU members, which was hilarious. Also, as for my complaints, look down at a number of other voting discussions and you will see my concerns are well founded. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 18:02, 9 June 2008 (BST)

   It was new yes, but I don't find it really interesting or hilarious at all, which is of course just my perspective. Anyway talking about anything original, we were going to make the first UD marriage (Rico and Barbara) having Petrosjko as our saint, he agreed to marry them in Ridleybank as far as I remember. Never happened but anyway it doesn't matter now that we are dead. Still like I mentioned above I think we contributed more then enough in those three years to have the historical status, we weren't a 5 members group nor we existed for one week or so. I understand however your concerns and I am glad that you are still here after all those years rising awareness. You have my sincerest thanks for that. --Sev 07 18:24, 9 June 2008 (BST)

8. Yes - Allies of the Abandoned for the longest time, their aid in maintaining Yagoton and the YRC's revival points deems them justifiable for historical status. --Private Mark 19:57, 9 June 2008 (BST)
9. No I've heard of those other groups you talk of, but not of you.--Sister Anne Simpson thinks you need more Jesus 00:00, 10 June 2008 (BST)
10. No - Yes they are an old group. Yes I remember them well. No I do not think they are historical. Yes I agree the Iron Cross Brothers should be removed from historical because I know for a fact there was only one member evar. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 00:18, 10 June 2008 (BST)
11. Yes - Back in the old times, it was a blast. Muh 06:04, 10 June 2008 (BST)
12. Yes - Deserving. DanceDanceRevolution 08:03, 10 June 2008 (BST)
13. Yes - What the hell are those allegations about members voting? Since when a member of the same group cant vote? And I dont think there is any merit in a vote "No-never heard of you" - because that's your own ignorance, those guys are pretty old, if you are new and you havent heard about them that's your own fault. Quite a lot folk never heard about "The Many" or the "Shambling Gulls" so lets take out their historical status. I havent heard at all about crap load of groups in south Malton but when they try to make it for historical I dont vote "No" cause that's my ignorance, same goes with groups which are right now in the historical page. Never heard about FOBU, and it's not even funny too. ASS yeah, FOBU not really. I used to be from the A-Button Zombee Kill Krew before you say I am a member of LCD. LCD was our main enemy and those guys were quite proffessional with great tactics. If you havent had dealings with the group, stfu about "how they dont exceed at even trivial things" cause you werent there to know. When those guys were active, Northern Malton was a much much safer place for survivors and pretty screwed for my kind. Not to mention how they took complete control over Roywood in few days. Had first-hand dealings with them and they bloody deserve it. Going to try round up the other ZKK guys to vote for you as well. Sorry for the profound language, that's my 5 cents. Sad thing that this group is going down, lots of fun had with you guys. --Bubba 09:14, 10 June 2008 (BST)
14. Yes - as an Ex-leader of the group its logical for me to vote for such a hallowed status, but let it be known that im not only doing this for bias reasons, the LCD has been a part of many battles and played an integral part of Urban Dead history, from the battles of caiger to the mall tour (06 and 07)sieges and beyond. sure other groups of bygone eras with the historical title may not have done as much or have done more, but its a fact that LCD were there for many years, and if thats not historical then i dont know what is Bromhead 15:16, 10 June 2008 (BST)
15. Yes - Can remember from back when I was with the Abandoned... waaay back! Danny252 15:32, 10 June 2008 (BST)
16. Yes - LCD rocks! --Mike Madman Calwert 21:43, 10 June 2008 (BST)
17. Yes - They were an important group in forming and defending SSZ, I remember them well and for me the game wouldn't be the same if they never existed --Brom Armostrong 00:36, 11 June 2008 (BST)
18. Yes - I sai. _■^■ 00:40, 11 June 2008 (BST)
19. Yes - Vital group for the forming and holding the SSZ, and great friends of a human Ridleybank and Blackmore! The game wouldn't have been the same without you. The Blackmore's Knights, few and forgotten as we may be, pledge our vote Darth Nerdius 04:04 11 June 2008 (GMT)
20. Yes - I remember them engaging in quite significant activities and being around for quite a long time. --ZsH 02:28, 11 June 2008 (BST)
21. Yes - I might be slightly biased, but the bra!nz of LCD survivors resting in the gut of my CotR zombie compel me to vote yes. Good times, good times. - Subotei's Crotch 02:59, 11 June 2008 (BST)
22. Yes - While we haven't always gotten along, the LCD have always been steadfast in helping their fellow survivors - whether in Darvall Heights, Roywood, The Battle of Blackmore or the SSZ. More recent times have brought us closer than ever and I am proud to have them as comrades. We are intertwined by a shared past, although any survivor who fought by them can attest to their commitment to the survivor cause. Definitely a game-enriching experience for the Crossman Defense Force. --Zod Rhombus 06:39, 11 June 2008 (BST)
23. Yes - It seems there is disagreement over the meaning of a "historical" group, but I remember the LCD, so I vote yes. --Dathgale 15:35, 11 June 2008 (BST)
24. Yes - Most definitely. -- Rohndogg1 16:57, 11 June 2008 (BST)
25. Ya w/o a doubt --OMGitsCHRIS 17:51, 11 June 2008 (BST)
26. Yes -good pro-survivor group and worthy of this honour.--Abraxaslotus 10:48 12 June 2008 (EST)
27. Yes - They get my vote Necros Nastigast 16:06, 12 June 2008 (BST)
28. Yes Got my vote.--JolietJake 03:19, 14 June 2008 (BST)
29. Yes yesyes fiends. --Tbroo 10:19, 17 June 2008 (BST)
30. Who? --Axe Bullet killed Axe Hack!!! 16:19, 17 June 2008 (BST)
31. Yes - For sure, definitely historical, "brave brave LCD run away" hehe, good old times eh. A pity you guys are disbanding, we would love to munch on your bra!ns again. Lazarus Zeke Disturbed 12:41, 20 June 2008 (BST)
32. Kee- I mean Yes ----Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|Extinction||MU|GN|C2008||00:08, 22 June 2008 (BST)
33. Yes -Changed the game for me. So long and thanks for all the good times. Kluver 07:18, 22 June 2008 (BST)

Succeeded (84.8%) 28 for 5 against Conndraka^{mod TTBA CFT} 05:55, 24 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] Roftwood Assault Force

Ok talking to the last known member of the RAF we decided that the group is fully disbanded. We were organized October 24, 2005 back when Roftwood was considered an inhabitable suburb. We were the first official group of survivors to begin taking back the suburb that we declared our home and under our belt of protection. Within a months time we reclaimed Roftwood as a survivor suburb and for three years worked on protecting it from the threat. We also started the first official revive point in Roftwood at Turpin Road early on in the game. All that were looking for is to be acknowledged for our work in the suburb for the many years we have been a group. Please dont vote no if your new to the game since you obviously havent been around long enough to have seen what we have done. --Lt.G Deathnut ^freelance 08:01, 21 May 2008 (BST)

1. Yes --Lt.G Deathnut ^freelance 08:01, 21 May 2008 (BST)
2. no' - never heard of you soz.--J3D^SR! 08:24, 21 May 2008 (BST)
3. Yes I remember you lot! Y'all did great work. S Aline 20:15, 21 May 2008 (BST)
4. Yes -- Dromar 3 11:00 PM (EST), 21 May 2008 -- You forgot all the work around the suburbs around Roftwood too.

   True, but theres just too much to put into the description --Lt.G Deathnut ^freelance 07:48, 23 May 2008 (BST)

5. Yesh --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n} 04:20, 22 May 2008 (BST)
6. Yes - Biggish impact ----KOOKY 21:23, 22 May 2008 (BST)
7. Yes--Screw Names 20:37, 22 May 2008 (BST)
8. Yes - I remember you guys doing pretty significant stuff. --ZsH 20:49, 22 May 2008 (BST)
9. Yes - I've never actually seen you around, but I've heard a lot about you.--Labine50 ^{MHG|MEMS|TMO|On Tour!} 05:37, 23 May 2008 (BST)
10. Yes Sanpedro 07:28, 23 May 2008 (BST)
11. Yes - As Labine. --WanYao 18:36, 23 May 2008 (BST)
12. Yes - Rings a bell. -- AHLGTH 18:40, 23 May 2008 (BST)
13. Yes - Most Definitely. Conndraka^{mod TDHPD CFT} 20:47, 23 May 2008 (BST)
14. Yes - The RAF has been around. paper walls + Talk + Malton Underground 21:45, 23 May 2008 (BST)
15. No- Yes you were around a while, yes i remember you, but i dont remember anything you actually did. You did nothing to elevate you above the pack, and as such you cant count as historical. Nothing new, nothing innovative. As for your claim of the first revive point, proof please. Maybe if you can find that and prove it to my satisfaction ill change my vote, but thats pretty much all that will do it. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 00:35, 24 May 2008 (BST)

    During the turbulent times of 2005 the RAF, TSR, and PARA worked together from Stabury to Roftwood to Pitneybank. This was perhaps one of the big major fights of my early survivor career. The RRF chased my group, the Stanbury Renegades, from Bunney Street PD, to Nichols, to Mayo Row PD, to Hildebrand, and then to Giddings (Dia de Los Muertos). Since Dia de Los Muertos is historical one of the groups that helped create the survivor side of that battle should be too. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n} 01:18, 24 May 2008 (BST)

    Your history needs some correcting. The RRF didntb chase you, they went along on their merry path and you were unlucky enough to stay in said path while fleeing. Whiile the rapid demolishing of nichols and the slower demolishion of hildebrand were, as two of the earliest successful mall seiges i know of (Following Shearbanks Stickling mall). Your last comment seems to be implying a fallacy of division, that because X has historical status,the components that made it should also have such status. the RAF did nothing really special. It showed up at a mall seige and was incidentally run down by a horde doing its thing. It wasnt specifically targetted, none of you were. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 03:46, 24 May 2008 (BST)

    I'm not trying to overplay my importance but there are several threads from 2005-2006 in the War Council with the Elders, Petro, and Jorm discussing "rattling Saromu's cage". Now, the RRF probably didn't mean to chase me personally but the survivors fleeing from Stanbury Village. But the history still stands. The RAF was one of the many groups to flee the RRF to Dia de Los Muertos and is one of the reasons why the Dia de Los Muertos was considered historical. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n} 16:41, 24 May 2008 (BST)

    We didnt even have the RRF forum at that time sonny. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 00:26, 26 May 2008 (BST)

    Well...if nothing convinces you, I'll give this a shot. The RAF did help defend Stickling Mall from Mall Tour '07. And it just so happen to be me who convinced them to do so while my alt, DJSpinbad, was in Roftwood. If Dickholeguy was till around, he might be able to confirm it. --Axe Bullet killed Axe Hack!!! 23:42, 24 May 2008 (BST)

16. Yes - Sure. --Cyberbob ^{DORIS CGR U!} 01:20, 24 May 2008 (BST)
17. Yes - they were somewhat interesting. --Bullgod 01:42, 24 May 2008 (BST)
18. No. "Somewhat interesting" doesn't cut it for me.--Nick? LOL!! 02:28, 24 May 2008 (BST)
19. No Never heard of you. DanceDanceRevolution 03:00, 24 May 2008 (BST)

    Two things. Your character was created toward the end of 2007 and is currently idled out of the game.--Lt.G Deathnut ^freelance 03:53, 24 May 2008 (BST)

20. Yes - And most decidedly "Yes". For starters, there's more on this wiki regarding the RAF then all but 4 or 5 of the existing Historical Groups. From the length of their existence, with their cohesive style of organization and distinctive approach towards their group's goals, to their compelling role play and personal histories, I think they've made great strides towards enriching the history of the Roftwood area to amply justify their designation as a group of historical significance. --Morgan Blair 11:55, 24 May 2008 (BST)
21. Yes - I have enjoyed working with you as a corespondant for the C4NT (DJSpinbad), and I also have enjoyed PKing you as a lone PKer (Axe Hack). I also have enjoyed attempting to munch on your brains (SomeoneDead), despite the fact Canuhearmenow always managed to kill me first before I even knocked down the cades. --Axe Bullet killed Axe Hack!!! 23:18, 24 May 2008 (BST)

    I do remember how much fun it was having to look over my shoulder all the time with you targeting the RAF. --Lt.G Deathnut ^freelance 22:53, 2 June 2008 (BST)

22. No - i don't remember you doing anything except bragging yourself --~~~~ [talk] 11:52, 25 May 2008 (BST)
23. Yes - As all the above "yes's". --Private Mark 21:49, 25 May 2008 (BST)
24. Yes - I've been around Roftwood for the past two years and the RAF has been a helpful force protecting the western part of the suburb. It's too bad they disbanded. They will be missed. --Nick Nitroz 18:56, 27 May 2008 (BST)
25. Yes - They helped me on one of my first characters, and I've always felt indebted. --Vandurn 02:24, 29 May 2008 (BST)
26. Yes - I was a member of this proud and honorable group, we kept the streets safe from zeds and pkers. Helped players that needed to be healed or rivived, we maintained a quiet peace as long as we were able. We gave our lives many times for others to flee or regroup else where.--Swat0121:03, 30 May 2008 (BST)
27. No--Luke Skywalker 15:10, 1 June 2008 (BST)

Voting Passed 21 For 6 Against (77.78%) Conndraka^{mod TTBA CFT} 22:45, 6 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] The Second Big Bash

As of yesterday, or today, depending on your time zone, The Second Big Bash has decimated 53 different suburbs of Malton (and some of those more than once, Hi Beavers! :P). Such unbridled destruction placed BB2 firmly in the top three hordes of Malton, along with MOB and RRF. The battle of Giddings Mall also led to the innovation of the Beachhead Tactic, something that changed the face of Malton forever. Can anyone really vote against such reasons for historical group status? -- Iscariot ^{GC PK WTE} 20:03, 4 April 2008 (BST)

1. Yes - Can nominators vote? -- Iscariot ^{GC PK WTE} 20:06, 4 April 2008 (BST)
2. Yes - Although I wonder if it's yet eligible for Historical Status? Don't the group numbers have to drop a little further yet? - Bisfan 01:22, 5 April 2008 (BST)
3. Yes - It surely was Big Fun Big Time. (For zombies, at least.) -- John Rubin^{T! ZG} 07:45, 5 April 2008 (BST)
4. Yes - Without a doubt. The rules for nomination simply say that the group must "no longer actively contribute to the game." Since it has officially disbanded I think it would meet that criteria no matter how many continue to carry the group tag. -- Kingdem 16:56, 5 April 2008 (BST)
5. Yes - For great justice, the Second Big Bash must take its place amongst the epic wins of ages past. --Mordred 19:21, 5 April 2008 (BST)
6. Yes - Well... yeah. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 22:43, 5 April 2008 (BST)
7. YAH -- AHLGTH 22:54, 5 April 2008 (BST)
8. Yes - I especially liked the siege upon Giddings. --ZsH 17:28, 7 April 2008 (BST)
9. Yah Thanks for ruining Vinetown Twice! It was fun.--Rosslessness 18:35, 8 May 2008 (BST)
10. Yes -- Siege on Giddings especially. XPav 03:32, 8 April 2008 (BST)
11. Yes -- Had a long run with a big effect on all the various 'burbs it hit. -- Alec Moss 06:01, 8 April 2008 (BST)
12. Yes--Giddings siege alone qualifies it, IMO --Shinysheep 11:01, 10 April 2008 (BST)
13. Yes - Undoubtedly. --The Hierophant 07:15, 11 April 2008 (BST)
14. Yes yup--Airborne88^T|Z.Quiz|PSS 07:20, 11 April 2008 (BST)
15. Yes - I fought against the Second Big Bash a few times, including the month-long siege on Giddings Mall. As a survivor I hate them, but I also respect them and they deserve recognition as a Historical Group. --Will Cathers 15:28, 11 April 2008 (BST)
16. Yes - if this isn't a historic group, i don't know why other historic groups exist. pretty much everyone in the burbs we thrashed knows us the hard way hehYeeth 04:34, 12 April 2008 (BST)
17. Yes - We brought the fear of BARHAH! back into the game. And had a rollin' great time doing so. The Big Bash was a real group, a family, a HOME, for zambahz in all states of decay. B!G BAZH! B!G BAZH az .!nnah haaz! --WanYao 19:49, 12 April 2008 (BST)
18. Yes - The BB2 was a blast to defend against at Giddings, and just as much fun to defect to afterward ;). Machegav 00:42, 15 April 2008 (BST)
19. No - Detracted from the primary aim of the game, to collect the best survivor outfit. Also, Ron Paul for Pope. --Karloth Vois ^RR 01:26, 15 April 2008 (BST)
20. Yes - How come this is even considered a question? the bash leveled half of Malton!--Aldaris 14:41, 17 April 2008 (BST)

    Yes - The Second Big Bash was incredible! It created excitement in the game!--Fuzzymail 13:04, 19 April 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 06:51, 20 May 2008 (BST)

    Yes - Just for one simple reason: IT WAS AWESOME! --XterrorX 22:02, 17 May 2008 (BST) After deadline --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 06:51, 20 May 2008 (BST)

Voting passed. 19 For 1 Against. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 06:51, 20 May 2008 (BST)

[edit] The Caiger Resistance Front

The CRF was formed in the wake of the destruction of Caiger by Shacknews and continued for about a year afterwards, later leading the destruction of Caiger again while Mall Tour 07 was sieging Stickling. It held the mall against humans for months afterwards. It has faded away off the groups page and a call to gauge interest in keeping it going has yielded no responses. The group made its impact in the Northwest by holding the mall for an extended period of time and consistently offering a fight to the humans attempting to retake it. The group deserves historical status.--DonTickles 19:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

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1. Yes - Author vote, as a former member of course I would think it historical.--DonTickles 19:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
2. Yes - Easy Keep.--Karek^maps?! 19:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
3. Yes - Sad to see them pass away, but yes. Wisuguya 20:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC/GMT)
4. Yes --Talunex 19:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
5. Yes, the group was very important.--Thekooks 19:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
6. Yes i wasn't even aware they were inactive, i think i still have a CRF member or two on my contacts...--Bullgod 20:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
7. Yes -- Barroom Hero 03:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
8. Yes – Sad to see them pass into the night. But all good things must come to an end… —[Revenant] [Hey, you!] [Cades] 08:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
9. Yes - --Kamden^M|^W|^T|^H 03:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
10. Yes - Did a damn good job.--Suicidal Angel ^{Kitten Huffing ?} 03:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
11. Yes - --The Hierophant 15:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
12. Yes - They sure did give us some trouble. --Zod Rhombus 20:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
13. Yes - How could they not deserve it? Bobs Aturd 00:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
14. Yes - A text book example of a group deserving this status if they are now unfortunately defunct -- Iscariot 01:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
15. Yes - -- AHLGTH 01:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
16. Yes - Sounds good to me.--Groundskeeper 01:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
17. Yes - Whynot? -- Murray Jay Suskind 03:56, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
18. Yes - Le sigh. It's my fault for not being active enough. Call me up when y'all want to make another small zombie horde. On another note, I am the owner of the most historical groups. AoG, Stanbury Renegades, PARA, and now the CRF. Suck it, bitches. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF DORIS CRF pr0n} 04:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
19. Yar - It didn't do anything as far as I know, but I'm no expert. Unlike Sonny, who somehow owns groups.--Lachryma^☭ 07:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
20. Yes - Yep, for sure. -- Xyu 16:50, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Dark Order of Armageddon

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Quit possibly the first true Death Cultist group[2], the DOA once boasted 46 members at its peak[3] who would wander from suburb to suburb to baptize and purify those they found, all in the name of their dark pope "Sinners, rejoice! For the Dark Order of Armageddon has come to bring our blessings upon you. Embrace the joys of death and turn away from life's sins". The beginning of the end of the order was a combination of the leadership all collectively becoming unable to access the internet (thus preventing new members from being recruited and given forum access), as well as the Revive Syringe change from 1 AP to revive, to 10 AP to revive. This made the combat revives we depended on far less frequent, and it was becoming difficult to have at least 1 living member to preach every night as the zombified cultists retrieved the blood requited for the baptizum. The official date of disbanding was 6/6/06, and the last act of the DOA can be found recorded here for memories sake. I have been meaning to nominate the DOA for historical status for probably a year and a half now. I suppose this level of apathy doesn't speak too highly for me, but, luckily, I'm not the one being voted on. --Teksura^Talk 06:07, 26 October 2007 (BST)

Voting passed --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 07:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ghetto Cow

see voting

We are a pro-survivor group that was started in late October 2006. Since then, we've participated in all sorts of sieges, from the 4th Siege of Caiger Mall to the Third Battle of Blackmore, we've helped out the suburbs of Molebank, Yagoton, and Roftwood, we've opened a tanning salon in Ridleybank for the benefit of the RRF, we've wandered to many parts of Malton, we've fought the Mall Tour '07 at several locations, we started a War on Sheep, and we've gotten a decent amount of members. However, I'm outta here, and I feel this group wouldn't be so great without me ;), so I'm ending it. But what we've done is historical, no?--Lachryma^☭ 19:00, 7 August 2007 (BST)

Passed --^T 20:16, 6 September 2007 (BST)

[edit] Amish Liberation Front

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One of the original top pker groups. They're older and old and deserve some recognition for their work. They used to plague the Bale Mall area. The Bale Mall logo is even based on them. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n} 04:52, 17 July 2007 (BST)

Voting Passed --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 07:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mall Tour '07

see voting

The zmobies of the Mall Tour '07 are now part of the UrbanDead history. Barhah! --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 18:00, 27 June 2007 (BST)

Voting passed --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 07:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] St. Valentine's Cherubs

A new chapter in the history of malton is written. St. Valentine's Cherubs voted historical. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 00:15, 21 June 2007 (BST)

[edit] Dulston Defense Death Squad

A survivor group founded on November 6th, 2005 the DDDS was steeped in controversy due to their harsh "anti-death cultist" policy in Dulston which advocated executing survivors who were associated with a zombie group, regardless of dual nature. This eventually spilled into a conflict with the Drunken Dead. In later months the DDDS became one of the founding member groups of the Dulston Alliance, the largest survivor organization in the NE Corner at the time, and without an actual head-count it's probably still considered as such.

At this time the DDDS no longer appears on Game Statistics, has not updated their wikipage since I redesigned it for them, do not appear on the Dulston Alliance forum, and one of the group's few remaining known members, Private000, reported to the the Alliance that he left the group when it became apparent it had faded into the UD history books.

So while the DDDS may not be a famous group, as their efforts were strictly associated with the NE Corner, I still think they made a major local impact for the NE suburbs where they once roamed and I'm hoping those who vote here feel the same way.

For

1. A part of Dulston's heritage and history, not to mention the historical significance to even those groups that they fought against. --Mobius187 May 15 2007, 10:14 PM (EST)
2. While they were a group that helped formulate defense policy and had some skirmishes with zombies and Pkers they are just not active any more. --Shotgun Ed May 15 2007, 11:33 AM(CST)
3. I did not know much about the DDDS as I am a newer player, but from what I have seen they deserve to be historic. Jaydepps 20:04, 15 May 2007 (BST)
4. They should be made a historical group. Tommy monahan May 15 2007 15:50
5. They did good for Dulston. They deserve it. Evildemon989 May 15 2007 16:30
6. They deserve to be a histroical group. Heiny May 15 2007 15:50(CST)
7. Well known enough to be historical, but certainly inactive now. Rattlehead May 15 2007 19:15(EDT)
8. A worthy opponent for the Shambling Crooners. --Darth Sensitive ^{Sith Lord•C•T•W!} 04:07, 16 May 2007 (BST)
9. Good Strong Teamwork. --Max Grivas ^{JG / M.F.T.} 05:32, 16 May 2007 (BST)
10. Yipee! Look at my templated sig! --thegreathal ^{read the Gazette!} 17:12, 16 May 2007 (BST)
11. Give them their due. Peter Steele 17:41, 16 May 2007 (BST)
12. We need more "region-specific" historical groups. Just because a group confined itself to one particular location doesn't mean that it should be tossed aside, especially if it had a significant impact on that region... The Southwest corner of Malton seems particularly neglected. --Specialist290 ♠♥♣♦ 22:31, 16 May 2007 (BST)
13. Even I've heard of 'em, and I've spent most of my time in Malton as a lone wolf! These guys wrote history! Torjim 23:33, 16 May 2007 (GMT+1)
14. - Many of us live in just one part of Malton meaning many suburb groups aren't getting into Historical Groups. I think this could be a very good turning point in preserving UrbanDeads local history... --Marie^{The Grove on Tour} 15:57, 17 May 2007 (BST)
15. Gotta respect my fellow Alliance members. --Schloss Ritter 06:20, 27 May 2007 (BST)
16. - they were active for a long time. Not the most effective of groups, but certainly worth keeping.--Vista ⁺¹ 14:10, 27 May 2007 (BST)
17. Yeah, as much as I hated their policies, they should be made historical.--Jorm 09:05, 28 May 2007 (BST)
18. Keep, for reasons listed above several times. --Davurnium 17:27, 29 May 2007 (BST)

Against

1. Never ever heard of them. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 21:52, 16 May 2007 (BST)
2. I'm with Matthew - I've been around for a little while now, and with all my wiki-reading, I've never seen much on them. I mean, they only operated in the one suburb, right? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 11:21, 18 May 2007 (BST)

   I have company! wheeee! Don't you feel ankward when your vote stands against such a mayority? I do, but my vote stands. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 00:17, 19 May 2007 (BST)

3. Do you realize that IF dux Ducis or Matthewfarenhiet didn't vote, this thing would have not gotten into Historical. Since they did, it's now guarranted inside! Fools.--ShadowScope 21:14, 20 May 2007 (BST)

   Don't you realize that we don't want to abuse the democratic system or force our agendas trough the wiki, but just participate on the discussion? Fool =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 01:02, 26 May 2007 (BST)

4. ditto--Sexualharrison ^{MR• ה •T} 05:40, 22 May 2007 (BST)
5. First and probably last I will or have ever hear of/about/from them. --karek 09:51, 23 May 2007 (BST)

Moved to archive -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 03:08, 31 May 2007 (BST)

[edit] FedCom

Up for speedy deletion, Fedcom are deserving of remembrance.

A farcical