Open Air/Historical Event Voting

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VOTING OVER. Open Air deemed a Historical Event. --Toejam A 11:43, 31 August 2007 (BST)


Open_Air

The deliberate return to the pre-barricade days of Malton in hopes of sharing knowledge, experience, and saving some AP. The Quartly Librarians tried to survive by good will alone, but were eventually eaten by ferals who were too impatient to get to know them.

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  1. It changed my world Sir Fred of Etruria 00:50, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  2. I'm for it.--Lord Wulfgar 02:15, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  3. Sure.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 02:16, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  4. It doesn't take a big siege or a big massacre to be historical. Ideas make history. Books start revolutions, books lead to scientifiic discoveries, texts change the world. 'Sides, Malton needs more literacy, a higher standard of education... oh so desperately... help set an example right here. --WanYao 02:41, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  5. It sounded like a noble undertaking, requiring large amounts of courage and gangsta-ness. Too bad dem ferals got too rowdy.--Lachryma 03:04, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  6. A breath of fresh air. Bluetigers 04:07, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  7. Forgive me, I have never voted regarding a Historical Event before, but the rule above states that "the event must have affected either multiple suburbs or how the game was played for a group, such as triggering a change." It certainly changed how the game was played for the QSG, and for the QSG's allies and patrons when in the area, including many much larger groups. So, forgive me, but I fail to see how having never heard of the event negates its adherence to the aforementioned rule. Nor how it's lack of "epic" and "battle" qualities--which seems to be a very narrow way of looking at this game--should thus make it a non-historical event. --Vandr 04:28, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  8. As Vandr so eloquently put it. The open air had an effect upon everyone who came into contact with the QSG, and gained them a reputation beyond Roftwoods borders. --DT 05:11, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  9. There doesn't always need to be an epic siege or Malton changing event for it to be historical. --  AHLGTG 06:02, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  10. Having been there, and seen how various groups normally in conflict otherwise came to respect this space (not all, but darn near all), I can assure you this was an incredible time in UD history. And didn't Xyu himself give a living talk during this period, with all the efforts to revive him that this involved? Even if I misremember that, still--remarkable time. --One Angry Zed 06:09, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  11. For the sake of messing up the people who said "As above" / Changed my mind / Some other third thing--Labine50 MHG|MEMS 06:42, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  12. i was there, it was epic. An entirely new style of play was attempted. So many peaceful human/zed characters were in on it , it took a mall crushing horde to end. Sarah tonin 07:44, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  13. Books are good...or are they? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 07:56, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  14. Proof that humans and zombies can get along through shared literacy. Agent Redemption 08:53, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  15. It was interesting to watch, although i hadn't chance to be there myself --~~~~T''' 08:57, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  16. well after the tour is complete. everyone will have met us at some-point. or your not really playing the game. also don't forget about the QSG NO kill zone. NMC, RFF, pkers, and other mortal enemies getting along and healing one another. which really was the inspiration for open air. when else has that happened? well? even LUE supports this policy (thanks to Murray jay). if you are new to the game how about doing some research first before shooting down something everyone that has been touched by us loves and respects.----Sexualharrison ה TStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 12:47, 11 August 2007 (BST)
    Just a small note: All it took was Murray and Goolina (musn't forget Goolina) reminding a few of LUE's elders about the Library to put it off-limits. We're not all uncouth barbarians, after all. Some of us were respecting the Library Law before LUE ever came to be. --Vito / --McTrout 18:30, 19 August 2007 (BST)
  17. Open Air changed the way I play the game-- and made it a great deal more fun. Buddhagazelle 16:37, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  18. I am all for the open air policy. It is a very intresting and fun way to play the game. I keeps you on your toes. Flickman666 10:44 a.m., 11 August 2007
  19. Amusing stuff --Karloth Vois RR 18:56, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  20. Aye. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 19:02, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  21. What can I say that hasn't already been said? -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 19:17, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  22. For serving as an example of what CAN work when you think outside the box. And for those who say they were silly and just got eaten- how long does the typical safe house last? Not as long as this did, I bet. SIM Core Map.png Swiers 20:27, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  23. Urban Dead's history is not just about battles, sieges and mall tours. Every so often, something like Open Air serves to highlight that there are a lot of ways to have fun with this relatively simple game. -- Pavluk 21:40, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  24. Open Air makes the game more interesting, more fun, and more social. --Laxiola 04:09, 12 August 2007 (BST)
  25. As above.--ShadowScope 04:54, 12 August 2007 (BST)
  26. Quartly Library and the Study Group have made a very unique place in Roftwood and Malton - one of the few places where zombies and survivors can sit down together to read the latest Harry Potter without fear of being shot or eaten.--Sunil 12:25, 12 August 2007 (BST)
  27. How many groups can say that they successfully had no-kill status? One - Quartly Study Group. The respect was widespread, and many different people paid a visit to Quartly to enjoy the open air. Fun times. --Goolina Gore Corps 22:34, 12 August 2007 (BST)
  28. Give me a reason why they should not. I hate it when people say "I've never heard of it!" or something to that effect. Well, there are 100 suburbs afterall, I'm sure many events have happened without most of the community knowing. Also many people here on the wiki have not been playing for more than say 3 months... --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 02:19, 13 August 2007 (BST)
    Not really an event might be a good reason. To me it seems like everyone is voting for the group to be historical when this isn't about the group. Odds are the QSG will get it(historical) easily when they are gone.--Karekmaps?! 03:18, 13 August 2007 (BST)
    can you please save this for the talk page and let people just vote?----Sexualharrison ה QSGTStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 16:17, 13 August 2007 (BST)
  29. Someone in the Nays said this would have been impressive if it had lasted through a huge battle. I was there when the suburb was falling apart around the Quartly, and even though the mall was under siege by LUE and the revive points were clogged with rotters, the library remained mostly untouched until a bunch of griefers decided that the mall was too dangerous for them and that shooting or eating librarians was the obvious way to prove they weren't afraid of getting caught in a mall siege. The Open Air Campaign was something that had never been done before. It reminds me of the Sacred Ground Policy in its effort to add some ideas of voluntary fair play to the game, if it catches on.--Gregory 06:07, 13 August 2007 (BST)
  30. Something that shows most zombies are not bra!nz addicts and most survivors are not trigger happy idiots is something that's historical in my book. Sirs Aug 13, 2007. 21:46 (UTC)
    Even if it hasn´t effected me at all, i think it was a great event, taking foward "trust" and peace in Malton.. SGT J0NES Sorry mate, learn to sign properly and your vote will count The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talkcontribs) at 14:33 15 August 2007 (BST)
  31. It is ideas that make history. --Razzer 666 17:21, 14 August 2007 (BST)
  32. i think it is a great idea =p --Zinker 14:25, 15 August 2007
  33. Sounds like it happened, so it should be kept. And, it's an interesting alternative to all those 'siege of ...' occurances --Crabappleslegalteam 03:17, 18 August 2007 (BST)
  34. Indeed. There's more to Urban Dead's history than this or that siege. --McTrout 18:30, 19 August 2007 (BST)


Against

  1. As below! --Evildemon989 Talk · Help · W! · P! · SU! · TJ! · Hai! 02:04, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  2. A bunch of people left a building unbarricaded in Malton and then got eaten. If that's history then I took a wicked piss in one corner of Stickling Mall the other day. I'll whip up a wiki page for it and see you in the voting. --The Hierophant 02:13, 11 August 2007 (BST)
    Wow... now that was classy... --WanYao 13:37, 11 August 2007 (BST)
    I was staggered. I didn't even know you could take a slash in this game. As it happens I was, about a month ago, in Quartly helping defend it against the dickheads who were griefing the QSG. However, that does not change the fact that I do not consider the opening of their doors to be worthy of Historical Event status. If and when QSG closes up shop I will happily vote for their place in the Historical Groups section, but this particular event is not something that I consider in any way major.--The Hierophant 13:41, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  3. I can't really say much for events in Quartly but they seem to strike me as non-historical. Now if an epic siege were going on all around them with hundreds of zombies and Quarterly had remained untouched with no barricades, then mabey.--Karekmaps?! 02:18, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  4. Never heard of it. Sounds like it was a noble attempt, but I don't think it made much history outside of the QSG. --Dorian Miller 03:55, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  5. Never heard of it either, but I am a bit new, so that could be why.--Ramsfield 04:00, 11 August 2007 (BST)
    Hey, I'm new too, but I have heard of this... So one's newness isn't an argument. Please judge it as much on its merit, as whether you've heard of it or not. The QSG went a LONG way towards fostering a different kind of role-playing experience in UD. They did some radical stuff in striving to counteract (and still are) a lot of the trenchy crap (on both sides), all the the us-them demonisation that can make this gaming experience quite lame at times. They also hosted to some AMAZING discussions, check their archives! This is significant stuff, IMNSHO. And its impact was real, and is still felt today. Moreso even maybe than all these old sieges and whatnot.... Maybe one doesn't agree with the Open Air ideology, but that doesn't make theirs any less valid a way to play the game -- or any less eligible for historical status -- than any other... --WanYao 10:26, 11 August 2007 (BST)
  6. I've visited the library, and found the staff there very friendly, and the conversation stimulating (hey, zombies don't get to converse freely with survivors all that often). While the group should indeed become historical, should they ever wind up, I don't think this is a historical event however The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talkcontribs) at 07:38 12 August 2007 (BST)
  7. I've never crossed ways with the QSG, but I maintain the same view than Boxy on the matter: Historical group, unknown event. Anyways, I always tought that if one of my "violent" (trenchie/zombie/PKers) characters came across the library, I wouldn't even flinch about killing as many as I can. I mean, how much can you go trying to force guys into following some rules that go against the spirit of the game? As I see by the event's page itself, 23 days... --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 03:28, 13 August 2007 (BST)
  8. I'd rather just see this become a 'sub-page' of the Quartly Study Group's site, since this was such a recent event and was so focused in one suburb. Seems more like a group/single suburb impact than a multi-group/multi-suburb event? --MorthBabid 15:13, 16 August 2007 (BST)
    which is why we took it on tour!!----Sexualharrison ה QSGTStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 19:28, 16 August 2007 (BST)
  9. It just doesn't strike me as a significant enough event. Sorry. --Donathin 16:17, 21 August 2007 (BST)


VOTING OVER. Open Air deemed a Historical Event. --Toejam A 11:43, 31 August 2007 (BST)

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