Suggestion:20070807 Death Cultist

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20070807 Death Cultist

Doctor Venom 17:49, 7 August 2007 (BST)

Suggestion type
Civilian Character Class

Suggestion description
DISCLAIMER: Nobody likes PKers and, personally, I dislike the metagaming aspects of Zombie spies. But these things happen anyway, so this class is an attempt to allow such actions to make more sense within the game. My hope is that it will also add the potential for new types of items, weapons, skills, and tactics.

Starting Equipment: Fireaxe, Spray Can

Starting Skill: Axe Proficiency

These survivors have turned against their fellow (living) humans and have embraced the zombie apocalypse, or they could just be nihilists. Whether just out for themselves or actively assisting the undead armies, Death Cultists attack or sabotage other survivors... when they can get away with it. They get FULL XP for attacking Survivors, but only HALF XP for attacking Zombies. Both Survivors and Zombies get full XP for attacking a Death Cultist. Upon reaching 10th level, Death Cultists do NOT gain access to the Zombie Hunter skill(s). Instead, they gain access to a unique skill, Zombie Friend, which would allow Zombies to distinguish Death Cultists from other survivors, in a way similar to how Scent skills work. (though having such a skill is also a dead giveaway to other survivors that you're not on their side).

Notes: Ideally, I would have started this class with the Hand to Hand Combat skill and a crowbar, but they need to be able to blend in, which means having a starting skill that matches an existing class (it was tempting to have them mimic Consumers, but I think PKers would have still prefered the combat effectiveness of the Fireman class over this). Having a Spray Can allows them perform subtile sabotage by overwriting helpful messages or adding misdirection.

I suspect that most people will initially have a strong reaction against a class such as this, as it rewards PKers. But my hope is that by having a class such as this, other Survivors will get a greater reward for killing PKers and Zombie Spies. This would also be a good class for dedicated Bounty Hunters. I think this type of character is consistant with the genre and feel of the game. It does threaten the Survivor vs Zombie dynamic by adding greater potential for Survivor vs Survivor conflict (though such conflict already takes place), but it could also add to the dynamic in a positive way by adding a sense of paranoia to even the safest Survivor strongholds.

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Kill Votes

1. Fire Axe and Axe Proficiency? Sounds like a dupe of the already ingame Firefighter to me. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 18:04, 7 August 2007 (BST) Wati! This is your second suggestion of the day! There's still another 4 hours before you can post another suggestion! Somebody move this to the suggestion talk page, please! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 18:14, 7 August 2007 (BST)
2. Kill - Just too similar to the Firedude. Though I still want a pure PK class...-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 18:23, 7 August 2007 (BST)
3. Kill - - I LIKE PKers! When they don't get my friends, that is. Anyway, this appears to mean that you'd have skills entirely inaccessible to current characters and the fact that you can't switch from survivor-PKer and you're branded for life. Plus, I like the EXP system how it is, giving some survivors half and some whole for PKing would get too confusing. --Howard Bentley 01:46, 8 August 2007 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam - That is a minute of my life I will never get back.--Karek^maps?! 18:04, 7 August 2007 (BST)
2. Spam - Gywah! WHYYYYY? the one, the only, sushiknight ^{(talk contribs HARD E.N.D.)} 18:05, 7 August 2007 (BST)
3. Spam - Please read the Frequently Suggested page before suggesting. --Midianian 18:15, 7 August 2007 (BST)
4. Spam - as above --~~~~_T^''' 20:05, 7 August 2007 (BST)
5. Spam - DISCLAIMER: Nobody likes PKers. Written based on a false presumption. GIGO. _Δ^‌_Δ Swiers  20:10, 7 August 2007 (BST)
6. Spam - ∆ --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:12, 7 August 2007 (BST)
7. Spam-just not needed.[[User:Chill|Chill^Talk]] 23:14, 7 August 2007 (BST)
8. Spam - The same as the fireman class, except the XP. Pkers only want/need 1/4 of the skills there are, and they get half normal XP, so it balances out.--Wooty 00:22, 8 August 2007 (BST)
9. Spam yup. spam. Jack13 10:21, 7 August, 2007
10. SPAM! [1] --XxPale HorsexX 10:21, 9 August 2007 (BST)