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Survivor Security Zone

The Survivor Security Zone is a specific area near the center of Malton, where four malls and other resources are located closely together, allowing for efficient territory protection. The Survivor Security Zone (aka, "The SSZ" or "The Zone") has a high concentration of resources, compared to all other areas of Malton. The Zone is different from other tactical initiative in that it spans multiple suburbs (at least five have important resources), and cuts some suburbs in half.

The physical boundaries of the Survivor Security Zone are defined by the proximity of four malls: Tynte Mall to the north, Woodroffe Mall to the South, Hildebrand Mall to the east, and Nichols Mall to the west. Projecting out a 10-block "square of influence" from each of these malls, and combining the overlapping areas, will define the boundaries of the Security Survivor Zone. The boundary has also been extended a couple blocks in a couple places to "annex" some police stations on the perimeter.

We could use the support of the various forces that make up the DEM in supporting the SSZ as policy. There's much more information on the wiki page, but what do you say? - Benigno , Zone Defenders

The Junkyard Bandits

Please help us in ridding Pitneybank of these pests! They raid the zombies at your Revivification Point as well, so you've got an interest in this too. -- Cyarus 16:10, 21 October 2006 (BST)

Attention usergroup, Malton Hospitals Group needs your help. If your running a hospital, please notify us as soon as it's on our list of hospitals. 04:48, 16 May 2006 (BST)

"How does one find one's own ID number? I want to submit a request but can't find my ID number." - posted on the front page.

While playing UD, look below the grid displaying the nearby blocks of the city, and you should see a block of text that starts with "You are " followed by your characters name. Click on that link and you will get to your profile page. Now, look up to your browsers toolbar, where the location (URL) of the page is listed. Something like + some numbers at the end. Those numbers at the end are your characters UD ID#, and the entire URL is the link to your profile. You can also get this information by right clicking on your name (the link you found under the map) and choosing 'Copy link location' (or your browsers equivilent) and then pasting that somewhere. --Gilant 18:57, 7 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Remember, remember the 5th of November

You are all urged to storm the infected heart of our fair city of Malton on the 5th of November. We shall not lie down, we shall take back what is ours! Codename V 14:45, 4 April 2006 (BST)

Mercenaries.jpg Last Hope Mercenaries for Hire
Last Hope Mercenaries never die, they just go to hell to regroup.

Need a task done, we'll do it for you for a price, Hire!


I am interested with your anti-GKing policy, but I have not seen anything about in your policies section. Without any indication of such, it seems that everyone can get away with GKing if they don't PK?

The DEM does not view GKing equivalent to PKing in any way, and the PK Reporting tool we support, the Rogues Gallery does not assign bounty points for GKing. In our view, while it can be quite annoying, it does not remove any functional capacity other than Necronet access, and requires no special skills, and generally fewer AP, to replace than getting a revive. Particularly with the long lines at revivification points these days. We do support placing GKers on Do Not Revive lists and their equivalent. --Gilant talk|DEM 16:16, 30 April 2006 (BST)

But surely you aware of the new effect with generators in terms of search rate? Also with generators comes with the healing bonus if the skill surgery is obtained? --Changchad 18:41, 30 April 2006 (BST)

Starlingtown Resistance Front

I think I may know how we got onto your page, but I don't know for sure. During the earlier stages of the groups days, I was contacted by a fireman in starlingtown, I'm not realesing names for absolutly no reason what so ever, and they said we should coordnate our efforts. I said yes but didn't realise I was joining this group. It came as a suprise for me because when I saw us on the list, as I had already dissolved the group. Anyway, the group is finished now and I just thought you should know to avoid any confusion.--Labine50 MHG 02:56, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Member group applicants

Bagehot Way Precinct

Hello, Belinda Pierce here from Bagehot Way Precinct. I've got a group of people working to keep two police stations (Bagehot Way Police Department and Breeden Way Police Department) clear of zombies as well as the other blocks in that area of Pashenton. We've mostly cleared our immediate area, though fresh outbreaks are frequent as we're surrounded by zombie territory on several sides. We've got a fairly decent sized survivor population that we're keeping safe to the best of our ability; maintianing barricades, killing zeds, maintaining a revive point, and some small amount of medical assistance though that's difficult given we don't have a hospital in our sphere of influence.

We're a fairly new and still pretty small group, and I'm not a real cop, but we doing police work as best we can so if you want to count us as allies, we're here. If you don't, well, we're still here and Bagehot is mine. I cleared it first. Belinda out.

woamm warriors

my name is homang, leader of woamm warriors, we are always looking for allies around malton. we are a group that is based out of kempsterbank, helping whomever nearby that needs our service, we are currently working closely with the Kempsterbank Neighbourhood Watch to help survivors in any way possible.

If you guys are interested to ally up, please drop me a line whenever at your convience. thanks for your time. here is our [ group page] if you are interested to check it out.


Hi, I'm Johnny lunchpail commander U.S. ARMY INFANTRY I wish for you to add us to your allies section I'm not sure what type of ally we are considered at this time. Actaully if you could clear this up for me it would help to know what we are in respct to DEM allies. We have worked with DEM closely in grigg heights, eastonwood, dunningwood, gulsonside, and at caiger. Thanks --Johnny Lunchpail 07:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Johnny, it sounds like you are already an ally. If you have worked with our members and friendships have been built between members of our groups, then you are a friend and ally already. As such I've already added your group to our Friends & Allies list on this page. I see you have already added yourself to the DEM Ally category, so you are ahead of the curve there. You are also already listed as a DEM Ally on Brainstock and as such have access to the private Ally Intelligence forum within the DEM area. You can also authorize any members of your group for access to that forum as well, just contact any Brainstock Admin. So you are all set as you are. Please accept my gratitude for the work you do for the survivors of Malton! The only thing further, as far as the relationships between our groups, would be to become a Strategic Partner. --Gilant talk|DEM 02:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Black Berets

Hello, this is Iluliaq from the Black Berets. Our forum is experiencing technical difficulties, so the Black Berets and GHDU will be operating off a temporary forum: If you register for this forum under your earlier usernames, you will be added to the temporary forum shortly. Thank you for your patience.

The Electric Light Torchestra

This is PsychoLychee, proud co-leader of the ELT. We are a very young and very small group up to now and our contribution to the wellbeing of Malton is also only small. But we consider ourselves helpful and peaceful and are dedicated to enlighten the town (starting at only one suburb, however: Dulston. Organized pretty well by dividing the work into 2 tours, and currently recruiting to be able to expand.). We hate the undead hordes as much as you do and would feel more than honored, if you considered our work and decided to form an alliance with us.--PsychoLycheeELT 00:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


We here at E.N.D. are a nomadic survivor group that would like to help Malton by traveling through every town, and taking out any threat in order to return our beloved city to its old glory. If we are in need, call upon us and we will give our lives if we mustto heal the sick, and return your loved ones to thier living bodies. E.N.D. asks for an alliance with every survivor group. If all survivors can work in harmony, together, our children will grow up to think zeds are only a ghost story. --XxPale HorsexX 11:14, 26 July 2007 (BST)

They have raised the bar...

... so we must raise it higher!
I have made efforts to call upon every major survivor group to join in a full frontal assault into the red zones.
The plan:
Have a major and a minor group take a red suburb. The bigger group will take the TRP of choice while the minor group will employ the DEAD E.N.D.* strategy outside.
Have a few floating groups (which can be alive or undead) that will be kill units taking out any and all zeds it finds.
With these groups taking out the zeds, it will allow the survivor teams to raise the ruined buildings and, also allow the time to search for needles, and other supplies.
I won't lie, this effort will take some massive under taking, but, if done right with proper communication between teams.
Each team will spend time working on restoring the outside red zones and then working there way to the north western corner.
While this is being done, other groups will of course stay within their borders restoring their own suburb, which will hopefully slow down the efforts of it spreading further.
The major issue is if we do this, the zeds will counter by joining forces as well. LUE, RRF, Extinction ect, will be fighting back, and we will have to double the efforts even more.
To me, this is the only way this "ruined" status will be over taken by the survivors.


There will be times, (especially with this new ruin status) where we will be put in harms way. In these times of danger there will be a standing order, called Operation: DEAD E.N.D.
Those of us that have fallen, will stay outside and guard a NT, while those still alive will stay inside caid, and revive when possible.
Those that are dead will attack ONLY zombies, and the living members will mention that we are fighting the undead outside, to greatly increase the chances of survivors staying to defend the NT. Also as a new update, (Not officially mentioned) survivors that do not have construction to barricade, search around for a lead pipe. Even without the construction skill, you too can do some minor helping.

Length of Pipe

In extreme cases DIRT:NAP may be employed in mass:


This will keep the zeds busy, while the survivors gain more AP, and, hopefully increase the chances of having a working NT, threwout a siege.

--XxPale HorsexX / XxCannon FodderxX 23:51, 3 September 2007 (BST)

Flustered Brethren

We've been watching and admiring your work for quite a while, and want to sign on as a supporter/ally.
Having recently been accepted into the Dulston Alliance, the Flustered Brethren wish to extend a hand to DEM and voice loudly our support of your hard, good work in Malton. Please consider us as an ally in the future. We consider you so now.
Or, well, at least, *I* do, and I'm the only one in the group who's both sober and awake this early on a Saturday afternoon.
Best wishes, and please attend the Monday Morning Kegger at Clewett Alley Police Department beginning at 11 a.m., or whenever we find another table upon which to place the keg. The zombies broke the last one as we were bringing it inside Thursday night.
If you have a table -- or corkscrews, which are rare as hen's teeth in this burg -- please attend and bring it/them. Thanks. -- Freddy 14:43, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

South Paynterton Aces

Hey there, DEM. I'm Dr. Diano Cervantes, Paynterton Leader of the South Paynterton Aces (I specify because EzriSun is the Starlingtown Leader). I've tried getting your attention on Brainstock, but apparently there are no nibbles on my bait, so I'll try here, instead. The Aces are the largest group based in either Paynterton and Starlingtown right now, and we focus primarily on reviving folks and keeping buildings safe for survivors. We're interested in being allies with the DEM, but we have no idea if you even have a presence in our 'burbs. Mainly we're just looking to establish contact, trade info, and start looking at the bigger picture. We're uniting local groups into a coalition called the Paynterton Pact, and have made some really strong inroads with groups like the Imperium of Man and the Creedy Defense Force which have helped solidify the suburb and keep it safe. I hope to hear back from you guys, and maybe trade some intel about what's up in our crazy world. -- Diano 02:03, 24 May 2008 (BST)

PK Misinformation

Take me off your list. You want proof I'm not a PKer you send someone to Dulston and ask around. You'll get your answer. Besides, I was reported by a member of DORIS who is the real player killer. --Officer Murphy 11:44, 18th November 2006 (CST)

Then quit killing people. If you actually targeted people on the pk lists, that argument might work. Yes, you got put on the pk list because you killed a bounty hunter, which is a legal pker.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 18:06, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I (DerekJeter) am reported on your site as being a PKer, with a screenshot as evidence. However, if you look at the screenshot I am in no way involved in that little scuttle. I appreciate your service, but this is a case of "you've got the wrong guy" - I never killed the person that reported it. If Amazing or any other CDF want to repost my name there, that's fine! Rasher 01:46, 6 June 2006 (BST)

I don't know what standards you're using to put people on your PK list, but they could use lots of work. I only kill people who've attacked me without provocation, and every time I do I announce the fact so others in the room won't mistake me for a PKer. AND YET I'VE BEEN KILLED TWICE BY people claiming affiliation with you. I am currently being harrassed by a known PK group, and I suspect they've submitted my name to you as a way to grief me (my in-game name is different from my wiki name). SmartyMart 04:40, 14 June 2006 (BST)

Not an unknown tactic. I know members of Mall Security have been on my ass because I go after Revive Point Abusers on a regular basis. -Singular Quartet 15:27, 14 June 2006 (BST)

Our reporting policies can be reviewed on the Rogues Gallery wiki page. You can also find links to the tools for reviewing reports and posting to the PKer databases thread on the the forum from that page. Post your argument to the PK list moderators on the forum and it will be reviewed. To facilitate review, please include any links to screenshots, wiki pages, profiles etc that may be relevant to your case. --Gilant talk|DEM 22:12, 14 June 2006 (BST)

151st Brigade and ICB

Hello I am B0ba Fett leader of the 151st Brigade and The Iron Cross Brothers. I was wondering if we could be allies during this catastrophe. So if you would like to become allies just give me a message

You are Cordially Invited

You are cordially invited to send a member/members to our forums to act as liason officers between the groups, in the spirit of the alliance we have together. Out boards can be found at;

We hope to be hearing from you soon

Commander Stephano2 17:06, 4 September 2006 (BST)

The Randoms


sorry, guess this is the wrong place but if you had an exhausting day and want to relax with some good rock music 28.93 is the right frequency. spread the word!

Revive Point

Well I have suggested changes to the revive point page which will change the complete layout of the list of revive points. You can see what changes I have outlines here and also my reasoning.

I am already working on these changes although I will not put them into use yet as it will more than likley disrupt your revive request system. I strongly feel the page needs an update to give it a better look and I would like the community to comment on this.

If you can look this over and also an example of the new list will soon be available at User:Pillsy/Sandbox. It works the same as the Mobile Phone Mast list. Any questions then please leave them on the talk page of the revive point redesign page. Thanks. Pillsy FT 22:19, 17 October 2006 (BST)

  • The example is now available for viewing. Pillsy FT 22:53, 17 October 2006 (BST)
    • I think it looks great, although a color legend and links to revive request tools are hopefully going to be there too. It's easy to use, maintaining might be a bitch although you might do what Conndraka does with the recruitment page and tag maintaining group talks with reminders before you downgrade their RP to a different color level. Will there be a notes section? -- Atticus Rex AMP ' T 23:18, 17 October 2006 (BST) ETA: Whoops, just went back and you've answered all my questions. Cool. -- Atticus Rex AMP ' T 23:21, 17 October 2006 (BST)

DHPD: Rotters Relief and DEM

Some of you may know me already from my work as PR Chief for DHPD. I was recently promoted to First Commisioner and am now second in command.

The ferals spreading from Shacknews prompted us to seek a backup NT in case Dury was seiged. We sent some officers to collect syringes from Woodborne which is the office of Rotters Relief. Until now we'd had little contact with them. Some minor tension has developed and thus far been handled by my local command staff and new PR officer.

A new development brings me here to ask your policy regarding PKers in the RR facilities. dontaco2000 of the RR has taken the position that the DHPD is forbidden from executing our warrants in their buildings. I wondered if he has placed a similar ban on bounties being collected by the DEM. To my knowledge our warrant procedure has been recognized and accepted by our allies and many other groups as legitimate. I base this on the fact that when properly executed our officers are not listed as PKers by DEM or the Ressens List.

The Woodborne building falls within our area of operations (the DMZ), we do not claim this as our territory but we are the primary group in the area. We will not allow the RR clinic to serve as a safe house for PKers and the like from which they can escape our warrants only to strike again.

I will be handling future discussion with Rotters Relief myself hence my interest. FmrPFCBob 05:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Serving your warrants to PKers under any circumstances in general is something that should be discussed with Karija & the current lead PK mod on Brainstock, and with TBM on Resensitized. However, where known PKers on the Rogues Gallery are concerned, there is no such thing as a place where a valid bounty [b]can't[/b] be collected. So in general I'd say if the bounty is valid, it can be collected anywhere. I don't believe PKers should have a right to expect safe haven anywhere, as I know of no place in Malton that is safe from them. --Gilant talk|DEM 23:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


I'd like to know if the DEM manage a revive point in one of the streets adjacent to the Nich Building, in South Blythville. It's come to my attention that the two members of a notorious RK/Griefer group (Silent Storm) are continually getting revives there.

If this is the case, I demand you STOP. It's difficult enough tracking them down and killing them in the first place, without some do-gooder sticking needles into random zeds, and reviving the wrong people. Should they continue, then I'll simply consider them assisting an enemy of South Blythville, and be forced to take them out.

If this isn't the case, then I apologise for pretty much wasting your time with this rant/complaint.

A prompt reply would be much appreciated. --Flatliner 12:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: The DEM is not running any official revive points in South Blythville. The only known revive point we're monitoring is at Gee Avenue, as well as certain ad hoc RP locations. I believe the Blythville Gang is running a RP at Park Walk (1W of Nich NT). If that's the place you're referring to, then please raise your issue with them. --Winnan 19:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Shall do just that. Thanks for the clarification. =) --Flatliner 18:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

A proposal

I have a proposal that could benefit everyone involved. Please come here and post what you think. I believe everyone has something to gain from this.--Franz Molotov 19:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Revive Tool Combination

As a dedicated reviver, I find it a little difficult knowing which tool to use, the CDF's CIT or the DEM's Rev Tool. I know that both share their information, but I am unsure how fast and efficient this is. Secondly, when setting up a revive point, I am unsure with which program I should register the point. Perhaps there is some way the two tools can be combined to form one solid tool, that acts as the premier revive request centre for those who wish to return from unlife? While the CDF tool is easier to add a request to, I find that the DEM tool is better for searching for non-area-specific requests. So, both tools have strengths and this would be a good reason to combine. Also, we could look into creating a Greasemonkey script or Firefox plug-in that uses the current co-ordinates of a player and link directly to the tool with co-ords already inserted (and even the profile link, if possible), thus making it easier for requesters and thus more likely they will use the tool. Hope you are at least interested in these ideas. As a prior member of both the CDF and the DEM, I wish you both all the best. --Rip purr 06:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions! First, there is no way to 'combine' these tools. What I think you are suggesting is that a new tool be written with the features you like most from each incorporated? Do you happen to have specifics in mind. or perhaps a mock-up of the UI you would like? Also, the CDFs is part of their mostly internal tool set, and I don't expect them to be interested in breaking it loose. Not to mention the fact that I am unsure if the CDF currently has any coders active who would be willing and able to work on this project. As you point out, they both have different strengths, but also adherents. FYI, the request data is synced between the two 4 times a day.
As for submitting requests, theUD Graphics Enhancer has had a direct submit option from the UD page for a long time now. And we are currently working on a new version which will streamline the process even further, as well as provide a way to see requests at your location, find nearby requests, and link to a map view of requests, all from the UD interface. As for listing RPs, I'd prefer to continue to parse RP locations off of the wiki list, which seems a good neutral place for the community to maintain and correct records. --Gilant talk|DEM 15:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the thorough answer. After looking through both tools and weighing up all sorts of pros and cons, I believe a major combination of the tool is unnecessary. Not that I'm playing a game of 'yours is better than mine', but I feel the DEM tool is far more suited to wide spread usage within the extended reviver community. The UD Interface plug-in you mentioned really clinched the deal. I was unaware it carried this direct request feature! Fantastic. I'd been using UDTool and thus had turned my mind off to any alternative. I shall be combining both on my firefox after I finish this post! Syncing 4 times a day is incredible! How do you get enough volunteers to keep that up? Or is it done robotically? Also, you answered my unasked question about where I should post new or adjusted RP points. You say the DEM parse from the wiki list? Is that this list here: List of Revivification Points? I only ask because I'm aware of the move from Revive points. As you can tell, I'm not very schooled in coding, but find it fascinating. Well, keep up the fine revive work, and I'll continue to use your grand DEM revive suite to help the fair citizens of Malton. --Rip purr 05:13, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Rip, the sync is done automatically by code that Aypok of the CDF and I wrote specifically for that purpose. As for the revive points, the parse is currently of the original Revive points page, but only because I'm a few weeks behind on finishing updating the parser and making the final page move. Hopefully I'll get that finished this weekend sometime. --Gilant talk|DEM 13:04, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Dartside Revive Point

We have a message on one of our revive points in Dartside that has come from what appears to be a DEM member. I would like to know, if this is so. The message stated that the revive point has been closed by the DEM, it is still an active point (on a regular basis) maintained by the Regulators Alliance. Can you explain this?--John Blast 15:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

While I have no direct knowledge of this case, I can hazard some guesses. It would help if you could provide the coordinates of the RP ro which you are referring as well. Looking at the RP list, I do not see an entry for an RP in Dartside maintained by the Regulators Alliance. My guess would be that the member who tagged that was being reassigned and, not seeing any other groups with declared responsibility for the RP marked it as inactive to save people seeking revives from waiting for one that might not come. If the RA is maintaining an RP, I would suggest adding it to the list (well, to the new list I suppose since the switch is pending), which also gets it's status updated to the DEM RevReq tool. In the meantime I know Evl Kitty has an account on Brainstock and DEM Ally access, so she (or any other known RA member registered on that forum) could post in our allies section for more information. I'll also point out this discussion to the head of the MFU. HTH! --Gilant talk-DEM 16:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Gilant I seem to have made a mistake, the group was the DEA (not sure who they are). We do maintain an RP at the Abarrow Monument [37-81] listed on the Dartside page. I also have an account on Brainstock, so I can post there if you'd like. Can you tell me, who the DEA is? I was unable to find a reference for them in the groups. Thanks, and I apologize again for the mistaken identity.--John Blast 18:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Apparently the DEA are/were a PK group who target "pushers of the drug 'Revive'". They also appear to be inactive as a group, but some members may still be active. Malton DEA --Turner Calton 19:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks guys, much appreciated. By the way Evl Kitty said to say hi.--John Blast 04:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Radio Page Maintenance

A few of us have been trying to bring the Radio page up to date. We currently have 26.26 listed like this:

This is perfectly all right -- however, we'd like you to know that there are unused frequencies (marked AVAILABLE if you wanted to spread things out a bit. Also, please let us know if your descriptions here are correct. Thanks. Asheets 22:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Malton Civil Defense Unit should be also be listed under the DEM, and Axes High should be added if we are listing all the groups within the DEM. Malton Red Cross is the only non-DEM group in that list, and they weren't there last I cecked (though that was a few weeks ago at least). --Gilant talk-DEM 23:39, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I'll let you do the edits you think are best for this. Thanks for your attention! Asheets 23:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Mobile Phone status maintenance

I'd like to put out a general call to your membership for updating the phone mast status page at for the locations they pass through. AND, if they'd like to maintain the masts, that would be great, too. Sincerely, your friends at MalTel and Asheets 21:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

The U.S. ARMY INFANTRY is in Dunningwood.

This is Captain Mordac, commander of USAI's Bravo Platoon. We're currently in Dunningwood to lend assistance, but it doesn't really look like much is going on. We have worked with you in the past in Dunningwood and I was hoping you may have some intel to share. We need a large hostile force(s) to help us with this surplus of bullets we seem to have been plagued with. We can relocate to certain nearby suburbs as well - we'll follow the action. Get in touch with LTC Lunchpail and he'll set you up with a secure allied account on our forum if you don't already have one. --Stickman 02:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC) (EDIT: Sorry about the multi-post, mods, I had a bad connection on FF)



The Beatbox Kids have decided to hold a Santlerville/Huntley Heights-wide Rampage. We regularly have our own BBK Rampages in which our whole group goes out at the same pre-determined time to the same general area and kill every zombie in sight. So we'd like to expand this concept and invite all the groups from Santlerville and Huntley Heights and any lone characters to participate in a Rampage on Sunday the 8th of April at 8pm Australian Eastern Standard Time (which is GMT +10 for those outside Australia). Check to see what time that is your time zone so you can go Rampaging with the BBK. We'll aim to eradicate the zombie threat that has Huntleigh Heights coloured red on the danger level map. In doing this Rampage we also hope to strengthen ties with Santlerville/Huntley Heights groups such as yours. As Santlerville doesn't have enough of a zombie presence to support every group Rampaging at once, we will not be Rampaging in our home suburb of Santlerville - this will change should the danger level of Santlerville ever rise above yellow.

So spend the next 5 days stocking up on ammo, reving your group members, and finding appropriate safe houses for after the Rampage. Let the BBK know via email, wiki, or in game whether or not your group will be participating. Also, we'd like to get a head count of rampagers and a zombie body count so we can see how successfully the Rampage went after it's over. Together, we can make this small, localised, weekly shooting trip a huge, wide spread kill-fest. Who knows? One day this could become a Malton-wide event...

Good luck.

Nick (Nallan) from the BBK.

SOS from Rolt Heights

April, 6, 2007
Our entire suburb is under attack from almost EVERY group in the PKA, and will be within the next week, and according to their threats on my group's forum, they plan on taking this suburb permanently as a safe haven for PKers. That's 200+ members on one suburb killing every non PKer, but you may already know about it because they say they have been attacking your base in Rolt Heights as well. They say not even you can stop them, but it'd be great if you tried with us to kick them out!! |m|_ Warstorm

Team Zombie Hardcore Operations in Marven Mall

The PKer/Zed Spy group known as "Malton Skeet Club", including members such as "Jack's Cold Sweat" have come to South Blythville. TZH is currently rooting them out, and killing them when we find them. We ask that the DEM approve of this policing action, as TZH is the only group in the area willing to deal with it. We have screenshot proof of their PKing, as well as their actions as zed spies. We will deal with them as we attempted to deal with the Gore-Corps during their occupation of South Blythville --Big Nixon 23:13, 15 May 2007 (BST)

How long will it take for DEM to put LUE as first priority?

They are killing everything in their pace. How long till we let this menace haunt Malton? All members should join forces and stop them dead in their tracks. The greatest joint effort in Malton is the history only way to stop this horde. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LuE Colo (talkcontribs) 13:56, July 19, 2007.

sorry but his won't happen. The DEM doesn't make a priority of any hordes. Yes we watch them and warn others of their actions but we don't make a priority of any they the The Many, the RRF, Shacknews, or in this case LUE.--Kristi of the Dead 03:35, 20 July 2007 (BST)

Your Barricade plan for Randallbank

Hi I am a member of the NNRC and have noticed you have NNRC as a enterable building This is harming our efforts to hold the suburb I ask you change it to make Littlehales EHB and have MacMillan Library as a Entry point--Matterfoot 23:07, 22 July 2007 (BST)

I suggest you take this suggestion directly to Talk:Randallbank_Barricade_Plan ---Ashate 06:53, 25 July 2007 (BST)

A little help please?

Hey there Shearbank Could really use some help, stickling mall has around 30 zombies inside and another 60 outside, the survivors are having a really hard time, any help you can send would be great. We ain't gunna last much longer. Lots of survivors are running and others are dying the Revives are starting to slow and ammo is starting to be a hassle, It's also hard to re'cade the building with that new ruined status. We really need some help here. Cheers --Annun 12:18, 23 August 2007 (BST)


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Revive the DEM Tool?

Hey, what's up with the DEM's Revivification Request tool? I heard that it fell to malicious hacking (is that true?), but I never thought it would be down this long. Quick, somebody poke it with a syringe! --Morgan Blair 13:28, 1 September 2007 (BST)

Yes, there was a security issue which forced our coder to take the tool offline until the problem can be fixed. We do expect the tool to be back up soon. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 16:06, 1 September 2007 (BST)


On User:WanYaos page, there is a list of criticisms of the DEM. What do you make of these criticisms? --OPECOILER 20:29, 26 September 2007 (BST)

I don't know I haven't ever really heard of him. Though the biggest part of his rant is that the RG is controlled by the DEM...It is not and is in fact run by a seperate group of leaders. The DEM along with the top 10 survivor groups + all use the RG for bounty hunting. So I guess my take on it is yet another person who doesn't really know what they're talking about ranting cause they desperately need a bad guy to hate.--Kristi of the Dead 02:40, 27 September 2007 (BST)
And I don't know what's up with WanYao's "bedtime story", but the guy claiming to be MFD in his iWitness? Isn't. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 07:13, 28 September 2007 (BST)

Bouncing Beavers

Hello, this is Falco94 from the Dribbling Beavers located in Santlerville. We have made a group of allies and beavers called the Bouncing Beavers that go and help where help is needed. First of all, we would like to know what you are doing at the moment, if you are not occupied with something else, we would like to extend our plea for help while we clean up Tapton from the aftermath of the Big Bash. If you would like to get in touch, email me at or use this wiki talk page or go to our boards at Second of all, I would just like to say that we hope that you come and join us in Tapton and we hope that our alliance can be one that is fruitful.


The Second Big Bash

I note you already assisting in resisting The Second Big Bash. I have set up a page to help coordinate the efforts of Survivors vs The Second Big Bash and would be grateful if you would add any news or ideas you have. --Richardhg 14:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Attacks on Bigger Mortice members.

Just to point out that our only enemies are Dragonhead. We are not pkers as such. We kill members of Dragonhead because of their crimes against us, and their crimes against the Zog of Marrinium.

All other players and groups are safe. We deem it a great shame that Dragonhead seem unable to fight their own battles. Signed: Bigger Mortice.--Zombiek 22:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

The Great Suburb Group Massacre

Thanks! --Pedentic 03:40, 31 July 2008 (BST)

This group is active.--FT MCI 20:30, 31 July 2008 (BST)

What's with the anti-DEM sentiment?

I am a bystander. I have never been in a group, but I have seen the DEM around. Now, I am seeing a lot of really violent and enthusiastic anti-DEM sentiment around, and I don't really understand, so I will ask you. Why do people hate you so? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Orionriver (talkcontribs) 18:47, September 11, 2008.

Various reasons. Some people don't like how some of our groups operate, some people don't like our policies, some people don't like our tools, some people think we're arrogant, and some people have simply heard a lot of crap about us that isn't true.--William Told 04:35, 12 September 2008 (BST)
Don't forget the respraying of barricade info with recruitment spam and insults! Oh, and this of course: "Some people don't like how some of our groups operate, some people don't like our policies, some people don't like our tools, some people think we're arrogant" --ScouterTX 22:59, 12 September 2008 (BST)
Our folks are lectured never to spray over useful tags or other groups' messages, and it's been my experience that most don't do so. Usually when someone finds their tags have been sprayed over with a DEM recruitment message, the useful tag had been replaced by something inane (P00tie wuz heer, l0lz0rz) before our team tagged it. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 00:04, 13 September 2008 (BST)
I'd like to point out that there is no way for any DEM member to prove that the Revive/Entry point was sprayed before they sprayed it.--Janine 14:11, 13 September 2008 (BST)
Agreed. Just as there is also no way for our accusers to prove any DEM member maliciously sprayed over a useful tag. So it's a push. Except lately, nothing's a push, is it? -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 17:55, 13 September 2008 (BST)
But when you a wall with "Bill was here" sprayed on it. You automatically suspect Bill, not John. And the DEM works in assigned areas where they should know where the vital entry and revive points are. So shouldn't any DEM member who comes across such blind spraying, quickly spray it over with the correct message? It is common sense after all.--Janine 18:10, 13 September 2008 (BST)
Lots of assumptions in the mix there: that all DEM work in assigned areas (they don't), that all DEM would intuitively know what the "correct" message would be -- that there is a "correct" message in anything but a completely subjective sense -- and even that all DEM have common sense. If you're speaking of a specific suburb or a specific DEM crew or a specific building or instance, by all means give us some details and we'll be happy to take it up with the DEMs in that area who may or may not be responsible. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 19:04, 13 September 2008 (BST)
So you're saying that the ENTIRE DEM is controlled by the same command structure and that the DEM doesn't work in the suburbs it claims to be working in?--Janine 02:43, 15 September 2008 (BST)
Uh, no, I'm afraid I don't see where you're getting that at all. But it doesn't cost me anything but a little of my time to take your grievance to the appropriate command person, once I figure out what suburb/building you're talking about. I'm not in business to piss off pro-survivors, so if our people are doing something they shouldn't be, and thereby making people mad at "the DEM," I have an interest in helping to stop it. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 06:09, 15 September 2008 (BST)
I hope that answers your question. ;) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by William Told (talkcontribs) 12:15, September 14, 2008.
@ Orianriver: William Told's answer up top pretty much covers it. Any further comments in this thread are pretty much just an expansion of his last point. --Jen 21:44, 14 September 2008 (BST)

One reason may be the Uniform Barricading Policy,the policy that has killed thousands of survivors and wasted numerous AP,plus the policy was anti-newbie,which has contributed to the HUGE amount people leaving the game and new players rejecting the game since they can't find a place to rest without being killed.And this is only part of the many reasons people hate the DEM.They also support the use of bots.(which they have admitted to.) No wonder anti-DEM sentiment exists.--Gamestriker4 23:37, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Go have a look at the literally hundreds of players that use the UBP and advocate for it. The UBP is designed to allow new players entry into resource buildings. However it is clear you have no idea what the UBP is who supports it or how it's used so I guess I'll just let you go about your daily dose of the wiki.--Kristi of the Dead 08:22, 25 October 2008 (BST)

I've read the page plenty of times Kristi.I didn't ask you if people support the UBP.Just cause hundred of people support something doesn't mean I should.Oh and here is evidence of the DEM's corruption.--Gamestriker4 21:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Clearly you have no idea what you've read if you read it hundreds of times. Perhaps you should read it 200. The whole point of the UBP is to make sure new survivors can find a place to rest a night. Otherwise every group in the game that claims this police department or that one would barricade it to EHB (Ex. Heavily Barricaded in case you didn't know). Even more simply your expertise in the game isn't such that you are able to decide why HUGE amounts of players are leaving the game. Further you fail at rickroll.--Kristi of the Dead 22:56, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

You realized you just commited vandalism by erasing my comment in the "Truth" section.--Gamestriker4 01:35, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay then, why don't you toddle off and report her to A/VB, see how far that gets you? (Hint: nowhere. This isn't a community page.) -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 02:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Kristi,if the UBP is designed to let noobs in,THEN WHAT THE HELL IS WITH ALL THE EHB BUILDINGS?--Gamestriker4 12:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

While it's nice to have VSB resource buildings for new players to enter as well as entry points for freerunning access not every building in the game can be VSB. And aside from that if you look more closely at the UBP(as you claim to have done) you will see that it is intended as a default for suburbs that don't have a customized barricade policy posted for their own suburb. So I'll say it again more clearly because it seems you are new and don't understand the wiki or something. The UBP is only used in suburbs where there isn't a posted customized barricade plane already. More simply: Don't like the UBP? Get together with local groups in all 100 suburbs and come up with an updated barricade plan for every suburb. In other words quit complaining about the UBP and actually put some effort into the survivor cause and help design barricade plans so we don't have to use the UBP.--Kristi of the Dead 12:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Krisit,I've been here for almost 3 years,I am a loyal survivor and I've put more than enough effort into the survivor cause and what's a barricade plane?--Gamestriker4 01:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

a typo. BTW what's a Krisit? If you've been here for 3 years and put more than enough effort in the cause then you need to STFU about the UBP. Simply put quit crying about barricade policies and come up with some of your own. I mean it's obvious your effort stops at blabbing your own opinion I mean 3 years and you don't know what vandalism is on the wiki? So once again either make your own barricade plans for suburbs you feel are too tightly barricaded and get others to follow it or shut the fuck up.--Kristi of the Dead 03:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I'v ebeen playing for a good year now, and been all over the city. And you know what? I haven't seen the DEM do anything good for anyone. Oh, yeah, they've done stuff. DOne stuff that killed loads of innocent survivors and zombies wanting a rez, but have they done anything good? Not that I've seen. The DEM takes credit for too much, and does too little.--Sean Connolly 20:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


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This user or group thinks that the Malton Uprising is going to fail, and that Secruss and Alphy should just keel over and die already.Seriously.

{{UprisingFail}} --Blanemcc 10:04, 14 September 2008 (BST)

Yep pretty much the biggest pile of fail I've seen in some time. Too many leaders not enough followers. I mean as john lennon once said " you can't build a future on hate" and in this case ignorance isn't a very good base for a future either.--Kristi of the Dead 03:53, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

The Last Stand

Hello i am a member of the group The Last Stand, where a small group that has been in the game for little over 3 years, and i would like to ask you if you would be willing to allow us to ally our selves with you, i have just learned about the evil intent of the DA and the MU, and have been working with Lemonhead and the PDA for about a year or 2 in the attempt to protect our burb from the zombie infestation, again i would like to ask to form an alliance with your group, thank you for your time and please consider us Xig2

Just an idea

No idea where else to post this idea, but here it is. The DEM has most of the major needs of Malton covered. Except for one. Engineers. There is no group in all of Malton that comes into a suburb, builds barricades, sets up and maintains generators and radio transmitters and reports the status of their suburb. A corps of engineers paired with a military operation could more quickly bring a suburb from dark and ruined to barricaded and lit. The problem is that it lacks to glamour of shooting or revivifying zombies of curing the sick and wounded. That's also the reason why the MCI is the least popular group in the DEM. So, i think it's a good idea, but it probably wouldn't take off. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stilwell (talkcontribs) 16:55, September 27, 2008.

No. Garbage disposal is more important than engineers. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 01:02, 28 September 2008 (BST)
That's kind of the MFD's purview, perhaps minus the transmitters. The idea has been floated around the DEM before, especially right after the ruin updates. Major stumbling block, besides the fact that it lessens perceived MFD responsibility, was the utter lack of XP available to folks who do nothing but repair, cade, and power, IIRC. But an independent (i.e., not DEM) group of engineers could be a fun RP thing. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 02:04, 28 September 2008 (BST)

Over 450?

At a stat page count a while ago, you had little over 300 members: Malton Police Department 90 Malton Fire Department 60 Malton Civil Defense Unit 47 Malton Forensics Unit 42 Malton Emergency Medical Service 30 Malton Marshals 19 Axes High 21 A more up to date one puts you at under 300, so unless a third of you are not wearing tags, you should edit that 'over 450 members' out, along with the 'gaining members every day' as according to those counts, you're losing members. Just saying. --Aldaris 09:53, 3 October 2008 (BST)

thanks for bringing that to our attention we'll get right on that--Kristi of the Dead 10:31, 3 October 2008 (BST)
Current counts puts us at 314.GeraldThompson 22:35, 10 October 2008 (BST)

A city wide problem

Hello, I'm Soldier UDW leader of the Special Zombie Extermination Squad. I appreciate the size and strength of the DEM, I wish my group is strong as yours. What I'm here for is because the zombies are beginning to overrun the survivors and me and my entire group is going to take part of the Malton Uprising. If you have any updates or word around the city, tell me about it. I will provide some use.

-- Soldier 01:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

you're joining the malton uprising? That's not really something the DEM supports :). And I thought it had desolved... In any event feel free to stop by our forums over on brainstock and we'll get you hooked up with ally forum access. Then perhaps we could work more closely together.--Kristi of the Dead 13:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Uh,Soldier,you realize that the purpose of the Malton Uprising is to kill DEM members.--Gamestriker4 12:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

How do I clear myself from the rogues gallery?

I was added for killing a GKer who was literally going to ever corner of Caiger Mall offing generators. Once I killed him I informed everyone in the building that he was a GKer and deserved it. I do not think that helping insure high search rates is a crime. How can I clear myself of this? --Xan2020 04:05, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Xan. The RG forum has a thread for appeals such as the one you describe. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 19:32, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. I filed my appeal. I just hope it goes over well.--Xan2020 21:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)