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An archive for old/off-topic posts from the NecroWatch Talk wikipage. For those who are curious, "off-topic" will be anything that ends up diverting from NecroWatch's objectives. Oh, and any wiki drama also ends up here or deleted. Newest posts are at the top, older ones nearer to the bottom.

Old Applications

User Name - A Helpful Little Gnome
Profile - Yabel
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - Shuttlebank and surrounding area. Doesn't really matter though.
--  AHLGTG 19:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
User Name - Asoka Wu
Profile - Asoka Wu
Group Affiliation - NecroWatch.
Suburb(s) - Planning to visit every NecroTech facility in Malton.
--Asoka Wu 24:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
User Name - BlackReaper
Profile - BlackReaper
Group Affiliation - Philosophe Knights
Suburb(s) - Lamport Hills
--THELORDGUNSLINGER 02:37, 31 March 2009 (BST)
User Name - Blanemcc
Profile - Blanemcc
Group Affiliation - The Northern Regiment
Suburb(s) - Varying depending on the location of the regiment. Somewhere in the north of Malton.
--Blanemcc 22:33, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
User Name - Duke Garland
Profile(s) - (no information)
Group Affiliation - LCD/Independent
Suburb(s) - center, east, south-east, possibly anywhere.
--~~~~ [talk] 20:03, 25 December 2007
User Name - Aphaythea
Profile(s) - Aphaythea
Group Affiliation - CCPD Family
Suburb(s) - South East Boundwood/Sheppard NT and North Yagoton/Style NT
--Aphaythea 05:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
User Name - cuio 
Profile(s) - unmentholated, cuio
Group Affiliation - None
Suburb(s) - Various, mostly around malls in the middle strip of Malton
  --cuio (talk) (NW) 05:36, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
User Name - Skritz
Profile - Nazdreg
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - Any place I happen to be...
--User:Skritz
User Name - Tec7890
Profile(s) - Techhead7890
Group Affiliation - RCDC
Suburb(s) - Rhodenbank
--Tec7890 04:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Sexualharrison
Profle(s) - Sexualharrison asshole doctor
Group Affiliation(s) - המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים, QSG
Suburb(s) - Danger Close, all of Malton.
--SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 12:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Lufio
Profile(s) - Lufio
Group Affiliation - N/A
Suburb(s) - Penny Heights and neighboring suburbs
--The Masked Lurker 05:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Anasazi
Profile(s) - Ghita
Group Affiliation - N/A
Suburb(s) - I wander around.
--Ghita 05:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - MiniGemmel
Profile - MiniGemmel
Group Affiliation - B-Town Boyz
Suburb(s) - Quarlesbank, Ketchelbank, Chancelwood.
--MiniGemmel*B-Town Boyz 20th January 2008
User Name - Rosslessness
Profile - Carlosinspace
Group Affiliation - N/A
Suburb(s) - All over Malton.
--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:59, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Keypunch
Profile - Keypunch
Group Affiliation - N/A
Suburb(s) - All over Malton.
--Keypunch 19:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - OverlordQ
Profile - ZS Revitech
Group Affiliation - Zombie Squad
Suburb(s) - Western Malton
--OverlordQ 00:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Sloping Flange
Profile - Bobby Brownbum
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - Settled in and around Ridleybank
--Sloping Flange 10:07, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Adobewedge
Profile - Adobewedge
Group Affiliation - The Q Alliance
Suburb(s) - Essentially, Around the Tompson Mall.
--Adobewedge 03:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Commie Woman
Profile - Commie Woman
Group Affiliation - THEM
Suburb(s) - Chancelwood, specifically the Haslock Building.
--Commie Woman 16:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Another alias
Profile - Jarkendel
Group Affiliation - N/A
Suburb(s) - Brooke Hills, around Hellyer NT.
--Jarkendel 20:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - N00bert
Profile = N00bert
Group Affiliation - FOXHOUND
Suburb(s) - Dulston, Rhodenbank, Pescodside, Rolt Heights.
--N00bert 20:24, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
User Name - cannywizard
Profile = theshinysword
Group Affiliation - None
Suburb(s) - Malton
-- Cannywizard 21:25, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Dehavilland
Profile - dehavilland
Group Affiliation - Reid Library
Suburb(s) - West Chudleyton
--Dehavilland 20:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
User Name - William Joel 
Profile - [William Joel]
Group Affiliation - /zom/
Suburb - Primarily Shearbank
--William Joel 23:48, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Quincy Kildare
Profile - Quincy Kildare
Group Affiliation - The Opportunists
Suburb(s) - I don't know where I am half the time. I go to sleep somewhere,
then wake up in a totally different place with a buzzing in my ears, a couple
missing days, and blood and gray gooey stuff all over my clothes. What's that
about? Maybe it's something neurological - I should probably see a doctor. Oh,
that's right, I AM a doctor.
--Quincy Kildare 07:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Viktor Suvorov 
Profile - Viktor Suvorov
Group Affiliation - 404: Barhah not found
Suburb - Varying, now Dulston
--  10:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Atan Varno
Profile - Atan Varno, Gabriel Holding
Group Affiliation - Edmund General United, QSG
Suburb(s) - Grigg Heights/Owsleybank, Roftwood and surrounding areas.
--Atan Varno(Talk) of EDU 10:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
User Name - "Citizen VI"
Profile - Vigilis
Group Affiliation - Philosophe Knights
Suburb(s) - Malton.
--User:VI/signature 20:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Morgan Blair
Profile - Morgan Blair
Group Affiliation - M.E.R.C.Y.
Suburb(s) - The Four Corners region and surrounding area.
--Morgan Blair 01:22, 24 April 2008 (BST)
User Name - Tal'Rahsha
Profile - Tal'Rahsha
Group Affiliation - None
Suburb(s) - Anywhere.
--Tal'RahSha 08:07 23 June 2008 UTC
User Name - Ivana Zarovan
Profile - Ivana Zarovan
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - Ruddlebank and surrounding areas. May move.
--Ivana Zarovan 02:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
User Name - Gorgon
Profile - Gorgon31
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - Shore Hills and surrounding suburbs
--Gorgon 16:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Mortenmensch
Profile - Mortenmensch
Group Affiliation - The Burchell Arms Regulars
Suburb(s) Rolt Heights and Pescodside. Maintaining and scanning from Clewett NT in Pescodside.
--Mortenmensch 00:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
You had me at 'greetings, human.'
User Name - extropymine
Profile - Elizabeth Dement
Group Affiliation - None.
Suburb(s) - The Four Corners, being in the Southwest section of the city at the meeting
of the Ruddlebank, Lockettside, Old Arkham, and Spicer Hills suburbs.
~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 17:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Hashk
Profile - Sophie Ames
Group Affiliation - DSS Red Zone Support
Suburb(s) - Malton, pretty much.
--Hashk 23:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
User Name - ChuckWade87
Profile - SPC MadDog
Group Affiliation - 6th LRRP
Suburb(s) - Shuttlebank,and the surrounding areas. Im going on a NT Safari.
--ChuckWade87 17:05, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm in it for the delicious cakes.
User Name - Met Fan
Profile - Met Fan
Group Affiliation - FOXHOUND
Suburb(s) - Northeast, from Santlerville to Dulston to Paynterton.
--Met Fan F 20:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
User Name - ZIPO
Profile - ZIPO3956 ZIPO396
Group Affiliation - DSS Red Zone Support
Suburb(s) - Malton
--ZIPO 00:32, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
User Name - BLusk
Profile - Sven Michaels
Group Affiliation - None at this time
Suburb(s) - Malton
--BLusk 19:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Alka Selzer
Profile - Alizia Backhouse Doctor Deuterium
Group Affiliation - None
Suburb(s) - Malton
--Alka Selzer 07:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Douchette
Profile - Douchette, Vagabond Dilldo, Doctor Strap On, Friendly Bobby
Group Affiliation - Yellow Fever, MMS
Suburb(s) - West Grayside, Randallbank, Kinch Heights, Shackleville (not in order, I'm paranoid)
--Douchette 01:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
User Name - RedeyeSy
Profile - RedeyeSy
Group Affiliation - Murder_Death_Kill
Suburb(s) - Edgecombe.
ƦedeyeϧyϮ MDK | NW 12:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Jargon64
Profile - Jargon64
Group Affiliation - Deepstrike Tactical Unit
Suburb(s) - South Blythville for the time being.
--Jargon64 17:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
User Name - Melancholy One
Profile - Melancholy One
Group Affiliation - The Pker Kers.
Suburb(s) - Dulston
--Melancholy One 01:06, 31 March 2009 (BST)


Old Topics

NecroWatch Scan age map

As I'm targeting on NT Buildings with outdated scans, i used my leet Scripting skills™ and created a set of scripts using shellscript and perl. These scripts are fetching the scan image pages, parsing the last scandate, and calculates average scanimage age for all suburbs. It tags suburbs with average scan age up to 14 days as recent, average scan age up to 45 days is old, everything else is outdated. Combined with a variation of my NecroWatch scan map, it can create a "Scan age map", see here for an example with recent data. Would that be of use for the NecroWatch pages? -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 13:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Admittedly, I'd find it useful, although not so much for my way of handling things. I've been tending to make swings into other NT buildings to grab scans, then try and grab as many as my route will allow before returning to relatively familiar surroundings. Keep it up, though, since it will help me remember which ones in my area I haven't managed to grab lately. --BLusk 13:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
It's definitely a good idea that I'm sure will be useful, but the main hurdle here is that in your example you're using the Suburb Danger Map template as your base and unfortunately it covers each suburb with only a single colour-code. The problem with that is if you have NTs in the same suburb with different scan ages then you would have trouble determining which colour to assign it. The better option here would be to adapt the NT Status Map for your project, as it allocates the colour-code to the status of each NT building, not the whole suburb. I hope that helps. --Mobius 12:05, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
So far the script is assigning colors on average scan age of the whole suburb (using 90 days age for missing scans), but I'll take a look at the NT Status Map, looks interesting.-- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 12:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh yes yes YES! This is brilliant! This is perfect! Thank you! I've a few questions: how often does this script update? Is it automated? How long will it last? Where is it hosted? VI 04:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
So far it does not update automatically, my "testing" version updates User:Alka_Selzer/Necrowatch#Scan_Age_Map daily at the moment. It runs on my local Linux server, but could be installed on any machine running perl with the CMS::MediaWiki extension. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 10:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
I love it! My only suggestion would be to include a fourth color, orange. Make green 7 days (truthfully, scans are outdated even after just a few days), yellow for 21 days, orange for 45, red for 46+. Great work! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 04:35, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
As Mobius said, I'll first take a look at a NT Status Map like variation, but more colors never hurt :) -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 10:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
New Scan Map. This is based on the NT Status Map, but the suburbs are colored by combined average scan age, the buildings last scan on mouseover. I also used Extropymine's time suggestion - up to 7 days = Green, up to 21 days yellow, up to 45 days orange, else red. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 13:39, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Notice: The 2nd map on the page is auto-updated every 3 hours by script (i.e. User:Alka_Selzer/Sandbox1#Test:_Scan_Age_Map_update). It only updates if there is a change, so technically it may not update every time. But with >80 NT Buildings and players from all timezones, probably one scan will age by 1 day every 3 hours so it should update every 3 hours. This update will work until my local server dies or my account on the wiki is gone. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 23:04, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Brilliant. Mobius, what say we integrate this into the NW page somehow? Alka Selzer: would you mind making the map into a wiki template so it can be inserted easily into other pages? Thanks. -- CITIZEN VI 02:12, 31 March 2009 (BST)
I'd say I copy the Template to a NecroWatch Subpage along with Documentation and Perl/Shellscript sourcecodes. It may be useful to create a new wiki user for the external updates. After that, anyone could insert the map with a {{NecroWatch/Somesthing}} tag on any page just like the NT Status Map and can setup external updating if for some reason I stop doing it. At the moment, documentation is lacking a bit (documentation? what documentation?); I'll see to that. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 07:20, 31 March 2009 (BST)
Ok... i have created a Template Template:NW Scan Status and a page NecroWatch/ScanStatus. I'll update the scripts to modify the NecroWatch/ScanStatus page every 3 hours. So you can include the map everywhere using {{:NecroWatch/ScanStatus}}. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 09:59, 1 April 2009 (BST)

So, Mobius, what do you think? Will you put this on the main page or somewhere? VI 03:28, 4 April 2009 (BST)

I added it under Resources, below the other recon map. I'm not sure if Alka Selzer wanted it there or not however. This strikes me as falling under Resources. But I do agree, it needs to be posted, and maybe it should have its own wikipage. Let's debate it. :) --Mobius 15:19, 6 April 2009 (BST)
I think it belongs to Resources. Anyone who is interested in updating "red" suburbs can put a copy on his user page (like I did). -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 18:03, 6 April 2009 (BST)
Actually I think it would be better placed on the main page, like this, but of course a little more fancied up. It is, after all, a visual representation of the combined efforts of the entire NecroWatch, and as it stands now the main page is not particularly useful. -- CITIZEN VI 20:56, 6 April 2009 (BST)
Looks nice too. How about adding the timestamp of the last update and a legend, like this? I'll need to change the scripts and templates a bit, but that wouldn't be too much work. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 11:45, 7 April 2009 (BST)
Hmmmm. I agree it is important. This however does touch on two topics, the first being that I had hoped not to create a situation where the main wikipage would need to be scrolled. It was more of a welcome page. However that does not mean I would not be willing to change its layout for the NT scan map. The second topic, as this would involve changes to the layout, has to do with the overall "style" of the NecroWatch wikipages, as discussed here. --Mobius 15:18, 7 April 2009 (BST)
Yes, I agree about the scrolling thing. It would be excellent if there were some way to work around that. Mm, nothing springs to mind at the moment. VI 00:52, 8 April 2009 (BST)

A Customizable NT Map?

Mobius, I know you're quite skilled at Wiki, so I'll direct this question to you-- how hard would it be to make a customizable version of the NT Status Map for NW users to copy onto their userpages to track our scans? Instead of using colors for suburb danger and NT status, it could use suburb colors to signify whether or not we've "finished" a suburb (grey for no NTs in suburb, red for no NTs in suburb scanned, yellow for partially complete, green for all NTs scanned), or dot colors to show if we've ever scanned at an NT (red for not scanned, green for scanned). Each NW user would need a different map based on the same template. Just wondering. Thanks! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 07:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

The NT Status Map is comprised of several templates, which if you wanted to replicate would require you to re-create them, potentially as sub-pages of your own userpage (and just including your userpage prior to the template name). The key difference being that you would not want to link to the NT's status, as dictated by its danger report. Here is a list of the template wikicode you would need to copy:
  1. Template:StatusMap_NT - This is the primary template where all subsequent templates are linked.
  2. Template:StatusMap_SuburbDanger - The suburb danger report (colour coded chart) and is a sub-template in the StatusMap_NT template.
  3. Template:StatusMap_SuburbLinks - This is where each of the suburb wikipage links are organized and is a sub-template in the StatusMap_NT template.
  4. Template:StatusMap_Formatter - This is the wikicode that displays each NT location's Danger Report-based "status" and is a sub-template (code) in the StatusMap_NT template.
  5. Template:StatusMap_Legend - An index of all the possible NT statuses. You won't need this, but feel free to replace it with one of your own design.
Now to create the map you want this is what you are going to have to do.
Step 1 - Copy the wikicode for templates 2 and 3 onto new sub-wikipages created under your userpage, with each subwikipage named after the associated template (i.e. User:Extropymine/StatusMap_SuburbDanger).
Step 2 - Copy the wikicode for template 1 onto a new sub-wikipage created under your userpage, but you are free to name it whatever you want (DO NOT save it yet).
Step 3 - By using the template code for the StatusMap_Formatter template, hardcode it into your new StatusMap_NT template (or whatever you decided to call it). This process will be lengthy as you will need to replace the wikicode for every NT building. Unlike the original StatusMap_Formatter template you will need to make some adjustments as we will not be linking to the Danger Report after all. Here is a sample of the wikicode that you should insert:
BEFORE:

<div style="position:absolute; left:777px; top:1px">
{|{{User:DangerReport/The Trood Building|template=StatusMap Formatter}}|
|}</div>

AFTER:

<div style="position:absolute; left:777px; top:1px">
{|title="the Trood Building" style="width:7px; height:7px; background:red"
|}</div>

Step 4 - Scroll to the bottom of the code for template 1 and remove the following:

<center>
{{Z|large|'''For further information, see the [[Necrotech Information Center]]'''}}<br>
[[Image:Necrotech logo.png]]
{{StatusMap Legend}}
</center>

As you can guess the background: value mentioned in Step 3 is where you will set the NT's colour, red or green, depending on whether or not you have scanned the location yet. As noted, to adjust the original wikicode for template 1 to use this new hardcoded method will take some time for you to complete. Obviously as you progress with your scans you will need to edit the template to account for each NT building you have scanned from, but that's to be expected. And there you have it. --Mobius 17:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
A simpler solution might be to use a list and basic key style map like I used on The Culture Tour 2008. Individual NTs can be checked from the list as and when they are completed and the map can be used as an easy identifier of completed/semi completed/unstarted suburbs. I used grey (ghost town) to indicate suburbs without locations, green (safe) for completed, yellow/orange (dangerous) for semi completed suburbs and red (very dangerous) for unstarted suburbs. This meant I could use existing templates to save myself the confusion and hassle of coding my own, something that I think could put people off. I'd be happy to code up this simpler version if people would like it, I had started on the idea for my Necrotechnician before he idled. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 17:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Could you not use this map? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Now that map is easier to manage. You could then use 4 colours (red=no scans, yellow=some scanned, green=all scanned, grey=no NTs) for each suburb. As for the # / # in each suburb, that could denote how many of the NTs in the suburb you have scanned to date. While not as specific as the NT Status Map idea, it at least would give you an overhead view and not be as large a wikicode monster. From there you could always keep a journal of the specifics associated with this map. --Mobius 17:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
That's the map version people have been using since...forever really. You don't need to mess about adapting the NT Status Map. Check out Morgan Blair's awesome page which has entries for each building, and also that style of map at the bottom. It has a few more entries than it needs (only 213 NTs after all) but you get the idea. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 19:13, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the ideas, everyone. I think for now I'll use Ross' map, but it might be a neat long-term project to do it the hard way. It may well require better Wiki skillz than I possess. Thanks! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 20:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I cleaned it up and blanked it out, and posted it below. It's all formatted and just needs the danger levels and x/x's changed to be useful for anyone in NW. If we want it somewhere else, go ahead and move it. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 02:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Might be worth marking it a template, with express instructions to subst whenever used. Anyone agree with that? -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 18:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
That sounds like a good idea. I'll play with it to try to include a "key" to help people use/understand it, if we want. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 16:05, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I screwed up the key, as anyone can see below. My wiki-fu is still weak. I was trying to put the key inside the dark box, in its' own lighter box, centered. I have somehow managed to *not* do that. I'm almost positive there's a simple fix, but I just don't know what it is. If someone knows how to fix it, that would be great. Otherwise, I'll drop the key tomorrow and we'll move forward from there. Sorry. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 16:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Kicked into shape. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 18:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you so much, Rooster! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 18:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
If someone is interested, i made a Template from the map below. Just pass username, gender, and subburbs with number of scans to the template. Maybe this is useful. See Link for examples. --Alka Selzer 20:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Good job. If anyone needs one then they can borrow your template. :) --Mobius 12:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
That's great! When you're comfortable with it, we should move it off your sandpit and into template history! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 07:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay, i cleaned the template up (removed linebreaks to keep table height), put the header in a table too and added an align= parameter so users can decide if they like the map left, right or center on their page. I moved it to User:Alka_Selzer/Templates/Necroreconmap. I think it is ready. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 09:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Looks good to me. How does everyone else feel? I think it should be moved to the main Template: namespace so everyone can use it and it can get easily categorized. I'd suggest calling it Template:NecroWatchMap or something, to easily distinguish it from the NT Status Map. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 05:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Minor edit: Noticed that the Header table background is the default white, so i changed it to a color more in tune with the rest of the map. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 09:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Almost forgot this one: it is now here: Template:NW_Recon_Map. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 15:33, 2 April 2009 (BST)

2009 NecroWatch Recon Map

A.L.I.C.E. has thoughtfully assembled this map to track the progress of licensed NecroTechnician NAME's progress as HE/SHE reports NecroNet scans from the many NecroTech facilities spread across the city of Malton.

Dakerstown
0/1
Jensentown
0/2
Quarlesbank
0/4
West Boundwood
None
East Boundwood
0/1
Lamport Hills
0/1
Chancelwood
0/2
Earletown
0/1
Rhodenbank
0/4
Dulston
0/4
Roywood
0/4
Judgewood
0/3
Gatcombeton
None
Shuttlebank
0/3
Yagoton
0/3
Millen Hills
0/5
Raines Hills
0/5
Pashenton
0/2
Rolt
Heights
None
Pescodside
0/3
Peddlesden Village
0/1
Chudleyton
0/2
Darvall Heights
0/2
Eastonwood
0/6
Brooke Hills
0/2
Shearbank
0/4
Huntley
Heights

0/2
Santlerville
0/2
Gibsonton
0/3
Dunningwood
0/3
Dunell Hills
0/1
West Becktown
0/3
East Becktown
0/4
Richmond
Hills

0/2
Ketchelbank
0/3
Roachtown
0/2
Randallbank
0/1
Heytown
0/1
Spracklingbank
0/1
Paynterton
0/5
Owsleybank
0/2
Molebank
0/6
Lukinswood
0/1
Havercroft
None
Barrville
0/4
Ridleybank
0/1
Pimbank
0/2
Peppardville
0/2
Pitneybank
0/2
Starlingtown
0/2
Grigg Heights
0/1
Reganbank
None
Lerwill Heights
None
Shore Hills
0/3
Galbraith Hills
None
Stanbury
Village

0/2
Roftwood
0/2
Edgecombe
0/3
Pegton
0/1
Dentonside
None
Crooketon
None
Mornington
None
North
Blythville

0/1
Brooksville
0/3
Mockridge Heights
None
Shackleville
0/1
Tollyton
0/1
Crowbank
0/4
Vinetown
None
Houldenbank
0/4
Nixbank
0/3
Wykewood
None
South
Blythville

0/4
Greentown
None
Tapton
0/1
Kempsterbank
0/2
Wray Heights
0/3
Gulsonside
0/3
Osmondville
0/1
Penny Heights
0/2
Foulkes Village
0/1
Ruddlebank
0/4
Lockettside
0/1
Dartside
0/2
Kinch Heights
0/3
West Grayside
0/2
East Grayside
0/1
Scarletwood
0/3
Pennville
None
Fryerbank
0/3
New Arkham
0/4
Old Arkham
0/1
Spicer
Hills

0/1
Williamsville
0/3
Buttonville
0/4
Wyke Hills
0/4
Hollomstown
0/2
Danversbank
0/1
Whittenside
0/3
Miltown
0/3
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Creation of "NecroWatch/Scans" or something similar?

To prevent the future deletions of "unlinked" image files for NT scans. Read the details here and let's talk about whether its worth the effort. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 06:54, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll take it that's a no. It'd probably be a lot of work for minimal payoff, anyway. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 05:56, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I'll do it, once I've done a few other things IRL... if I haven't done it in a few days, just leave a message here. Linkthewindow  Talk  05:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh! Thanks again, Link! You're a peach. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 06:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Boy, a guy overlooks a topic for a couple of days and everyone assume he just doesn't care. It's a shame that the category we created doesn't count towards "linking" the image, as right now each scan image was linked to Category:Necronet. Even so, I agree that we should try and keep older scans, especially in the case where they are temporarily replaced with the "static" GIF. There was a time when someone wanted to actually create trending reports with all the scan images for each location, so people could see, via graph, how many zombies were in the area over time. Of course that was a while back and the effort was killed off when another Wiki Mod stepped in and deleted the wikipage/scans... something about the images being too large. It was a while back (2006?), so I don't recall the exact details. But yes, feel free to create a wikipage to store all the scan images. We certainly appreciate the effort. --Mobius 14:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I've done about a third of all the scans that must be done. It's going to be a big page. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:41, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I know the feeling. When I created the alphabetical listing for each suburb's NT scans it just seemed to take forever... which of course wasn't that big a surprise for me since I had already gone to the trouble of revamping the wikipages for every NT building in Malton prior to starting this project. Good job so far. Let us know when the images have been safely stored. --Mobius 12:39, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I'm sorry. This is probably my fault, since I was the one who thought it would be a brilliant idea to clear out the older scan images in favour of the scan missing image. Apologies. -- CITIZEN VI 14:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't think it's your fault at all. Updating everything with the missing scan was a good idea, and we should probably do it more often than we do, or maybe even get a bot to do it. However, when the images ended up being linked to no pages, they inadvertently were removed. The page Link is working on will make sure that doesn't happen again. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 04:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I haven't forgotten about this - editing and loading big pages is hard when you've been shaped. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

"Field Guide"

Hey guys. I have started poking around with a NecroWatch Field Guide in my sandpit. I'm looking for input, chiefly on whether or not it is necessary and could be useful, and if so, then what else should be included to make it better? It's a work in progress, but I guess I'm curious to know if it's something I should keep working on. Thanks! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 07:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

This is an excellent idea. If I may make a suggestion, it would be very useful to have a section on surviving and getting scans in totally destroyed suburbs. I recently had to figure out a way to make my way through a ruined wasteland filled with zombies to gain a scan from a NT facility that was utterly gutted and full of zombies. It was only because I came prepared for the task and armed with the knowledge of how to survive in ruined suburbs that not only did I get my scan but I also came away completely unscathed. -- CITIZEN VI 19:31, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
VI, I made a section for that here. Do you want to take a whack at it? If not, I'll try to get to it this coming week. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 08:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
No constructive comments from me at this time, I've been a bit busy with two competitions (one of which just wrapped up yesterday). When I have some more time I'll take a closer look. The only thing I keep thinking is maybe turning that wikicode suburb/NT map into a proper template, one that's more user-friendly. Something to think about. Anyway good job with the guide so far. After you're done we'll have to see where we can place it. Maybe a "Help" section. --Mobius 18:38, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I made a fresh round of edits, but I'm still interested in someone more veteran than me taking a first crack at the "surviving in ruined suburbs" section. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 09:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I would offer, but I never actually stayed in a ruined suburb. It was all sunshine and happiness for me. Hopefully though someone here has and can offer some suggestions. As for second-hand advice, I commonly hear people using strategies like hiding in ruined non-resource buildings with open doors, or even dropping a generator, repairing and barricading, and then destroying the generator to kill the light. I suppose it depends on the resources and AP of teh person. Also, I used to always keep 10 AP on me at all times, just in case I needed to exit a building. What else? Oh, always keeping 1 FAK on you at all times and using it only to heal yourself from infection. Then when you do, head to a hospital to get a new FAK to replace it. That's about it for me. --Mobius 13:33, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, take a look at this rough draft and tell me what you think. I'm still very open for input. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 08:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

For me as a new player, i like it a lot. Very helpful. I only wonder why i should carry revivication syringes, is it wise to waste 10 AP on a revive when doing a scanning tour? -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 09:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Depends, I guess. I always carry at least three because I also help to reclaim NTs and drop by revive points whenever I'm in a moderate or safe suburb (since I'm not needing to spend AP looking for generators). If you're just intending to sprint from one facility to the next, I wouldn't worry about it. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 02:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, i usually help and/or revive too. But your guide seem to focus on scanning only, so I'd maybe list syringes as "optional" -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 09:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Good point. I think what I'll do is point that out, and remove them from the suggested "pan and scan" inventory. I'll leave them in the "reclamation" inventory. Thanks! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 15:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I like to carry at least 3 jabbers if I need to CRAP a zed who is standing in my way...you never know--Dr Mycroft Chris 07:55, 31 March 2009 (BST)

The Team Listing

This List - Like err, what the hell is that thing supposed to be sorted by? It seems an indecisive combination of by scan count, alphabetically and order of joining. I would think the best method is by total scans, anybody have an opinion? -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 01:25, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Saw that too. I think some order is in order. Eh, eh? :P --Met Fan F 01:39, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I *think* it's by rank, then alphabetical within each rank. Though I'd have no objections to simply sorting it by # of scans. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 09:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Yet another Scooby-Doo mystery solved. Extropymine is correct. The Member list is sorted by Rank as the primary index, and then within each of those rank sets it's sorted alphabetically. Originally the list was sorted alphabetically, but as member gained ranks I opted to keep those higher ranked members at the top of the list, as those ranks grew I sorted them alphabetically as well. --Mobius 13:40, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Since ranks are just scans count but grouped arbitrarily, would it not be better to go straight by scans anyway? The table looks a bit odd otherwise. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 14:01, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 21:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Well I'm game. Like I said, the original sort order was more a factor of how the list evolved as more members joined. Still, I cannot help but sense this request was not motived so much by the need to order the list, so much as finding a way to actually get to the top of that list, am I right? The only problem I forsee is that I have a lot of overhead tasks these days, and not every member updates the member list. Rather than see myself get roped into updating the list for these individuals I have come up with an even better solution. The member list sorts itself now. You heard me, and all at the touch of a button. High-fives for everyone! Alright... --Mobius 23:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I love it! That's a good feature! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 03:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

On the subject, it might be worth "resetting" the leaderboards annually. A lot of the high-ranking people on the list don't seem to be scanning much anymore. Maybe an archival 2008 sub-page? Since part of the appeal of NW is the "contest" of getting scans (a very good way to trick people into helping the survivor community at-large), maybe having new contests every year would keep a steady flow of recruits? Alternatively, we could make some new ribbons to encourage people to keep on scanning, or maybe contests to earn a ribbon for the most scans during a given month. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 21:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

The contest is more of a ploy actually. Everybody loves to be a winner. Everybody loves cake. The winner gets cake. Bam. You're signed on for life. I do however see a point to perhaps removing some of the "low performers" who signed-up and have since done dididly-doo. I recall doing that once before. On the topic of recruiting, it's limited to whoever I spot posting scan updates, which in turn is spurred by the fact that I report scans in suburb news, which in turn advertises NecroWatch by default. Hence we reach Step 3: Profit. I do however agree... like Pokemon once you've collected them all you just don't feel as inclined to keep re-collecting them. It's boring. Rather we need new ribbons as you suggested. I was planning on creating a series of Trophy ribbons, like one called "Mob Chaser". It would be similar to Combat Recon, only instead of requiring a set number of zombies in the scan it requires you to beat the last "high score" (score = maximum numbers of zombies in a scan). The I create two versions of the ribbon, one for the title holder and one for former title holders. The idea behind this ribbon goes back to the old "Most Crowded Scan" thread. I'm also open to suggestions, so long as they are scan-themed. --Mobius 23:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
We're all winners, because we're here. I was thinking about things like month-long "scan drives" or something-- little mini-contests to award a ribbon for (most scans in April 2009, or most NTs visited in August 2009, etc). Assuming I'm still here in 2010 (and it seems likely), I'll be starting a new ribbon counter for myself to push myself to keep going. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 23:32, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
That might be interesting too. I'm just trying my best to avoid commiting myself to anything that would require me to work on a cycle-based task. Ribbons, by and large, resolve themselves as you generally know when you've earned one. Monthly contests would mean I would need to monitor a thread here, or something along those lines, and officiate a winner each month. I do still like the idea as, just maybe on a more limited scale. Maybe connected to a zombie-related event? Like who can post the most scans during Mall Tour. Then we just base the start-end time on when they say they started and ended. Another idea for a Trophy ribbon, largest number of zombies inside a mall scan. I might associate that with Mall Tour... --Mobius 23:42, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
EDIT: A further thought on "Mob Chaser", I just realized that it might be too cruel for newer members if the "bar" is set so high that no one can ever claim the trophy ribbon. As such, I've decided that the ribbon will be an annual trophy with a winner for each year, and each new year the limit is reset to 0. However, the trophy ribbon will not be handed out to its next winner until May 15th of that year. This gives people a chance to one-up each other with new maximum zombie totals, driving it up to a more reasonably high number before it's handed out. Now the option here is, if it's annual do we want there to only be one winner per year, or go with the whole "former title holder" ribbons? Meaning, several people could win the ribbon, but at the end of the year it's the last "winner" who has the formal ribbon and the others just have a lesser version.
I don't see any reason to take away a ribbon from someone who won it previously. So I'd support the idea of the "former title holder" ribbon-- of if it's going to be annual, the ribbon(s) themselves could be subtly different, with "2008" or "2009" or something built right into the ribbon? ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 03:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Actually, to clarify, each person who would win the ribbon would keep it. There wouldn't be any ribbons taken away. That would just be cruel. What I had meant, in part, was as you yourself suggested, namely that the ribbon is awarded on an annual basis and that each winner has a ribbon for that specific year (2008, 2009, 2010, ect). The ribbon would be neutral, but I would create a list showing the winner for each year, that way you can tell which years you had won the ribbon. What I had meant by "former title holders" was that I had considered giving a ribbon also to anyone who topped the current high score during the course of the year, but then didn't end up winning the ribbon because someone else reported a higher zombie count in their scan. That way you would still earn a ribbon for your efforts, even if you did not "win" for that year. It's like those participation ribbons that they hand out during track and field meets. Bottom line, all I need to do is create 2 ribbons, one for the winner and one for participants. Then I'll need to tweek the template to allow one or the other to be displayed. If that doesn't work out we can always just go with there being only the winner's trophy ribbon. --Mobius 17:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
So basically, a ribbon for "record-breaking scan" (which anyone can win and keep by breaking the current record, and can be won by several people over the course of the year as the "record" goes up and up), and then "most crowded scan 2009" (which is awarded at the end of the year to whoever is the leader at that moment). Sounds good! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 04:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Now I just need to design it, set the rules, and update the ribbon-displayer template wikicode. I'll probably get a better chance to do that this coming weekend, as this week I'm still overseeing the Hang 'Em High competition for the Dulston Alliance (it has nothing to do with NecroWatch). That competition ends on Saturday. So I might have time on Sunday after I hand out the trophies. --Mobius 13:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Is the left-alignment necessary for the sorting feature? I notice that the list has changed from center to left alignment, and that the date of this change coincides with the implementation of the sorting function. Also, is there a way to insert a time stamp without having to type the four tildes? VI 00:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually I compared the BEFORE and AFTER, but I do not see any alignment changes. The first 4 columns were left aligned and the last two are centered. Of course if you would prefer one of the left-aligned columns be centered, let me know and I'll take it into consideration. In truth, except for maybe Rank, I'm flexible as to whether a column is centered or not. Of course I prefer Research Area and Total Scans stay centered, as in the first case it works best for the Master Recon ribbon, and also for the scan totals.
In answer to your second question, you can sign a post with one fewer "~", but then you lose the timestamp portion. But you probably knew that already. In truth I tried to code the four tildes into the template, but the bloody thing just kept inserting my signature. There seemed to be no way to preserve the wikicode and still get it to activate. If I were the hazard a guess... maybe it could be done if we could determine a way to assign the four tildes to a variable, or parse the value into the signature field, but only at the moment after the template is used. It's been a while since I last experimented with it, but I'll take another look. Anything to make your jobs easier. :) --Mobius 13:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Are you using Firefox? Check out this screenshot:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6086/stuff.png
See what I mean? VI 03:04, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually I'm using IE. For some reason I thought you were talking about the text inside the table being left-aligned... so I kept comparing the two images. Then it dawned on me that you meant the entire "table" was left-aligned. Okay. That doesn't happen for me, but let me try this. I placed center tags around the table. That should center it... in theory. Let me know if that doesn't fix the issue. As a note, should you ever spot anything else that looks strange let me know, as there might be other "works only for IE" issues that I am unaware of. --Mobius 03:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Looks centered in Safari. --  AHLGTG 22:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
It's fixed. Thanks. VI 02:16, 31 March 2009 (BST)

NecroWatch Template

Just a heads' up, I noticed that although the {{NecroWatch}} template included a gender variable, this wasn't pointed out in the instructions for using the template, so I went ahead and added some. Hope no one minds. I also linked Dr. Mycroft's {{NecroWatch250width}} template in there and updated it to include a gender variable. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 04:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Sounds fine by me--Dr Mycroft Chris 05:57, 31 March 2009 (BST)
Yeah, ha ha, I added that a while ago because I was sick of seeing "their" used to refer to a singular noun. It was just to allow me to appease my inner grazi without having to make a new template, so I didn't post any instructions. VI 14:42, 31 March 2009 (BST)
I'm all for it. I know I have created gender-specific templates before, but not all of mine are as I find some people do not like complicated templates. If you gentlemen also wanted to suggest new templates you are free to do so as well. --Mobius 13:53, 1 April 2009 (BST)
I made one the other day. Not for NW, but mostly out of frustration at the amount of time I spend looking for a damn fuel can.
Generator.JPG NecroNet Repairman
This user keeps NecroNet up and running, and is probably off looking for a genny and fuel.
Here you go. {{NecroNetRepair|Name=???}} Share our pain with the world! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 02:42, 2 April 2009 (BST)
Yup, it can be frustrating. Over in Dulston a group called the ELT spend their days hunting for fuel and generators, as supplying power is what their group does. So I get to hear from them all the time about how hard it is to find these resources. --Mobius 13:21, 2 April 2009 (BST)
And thanks to them I GOT that scan! + I added your template because I think its funny,WOOT!--Dr Mycroft Chris 07:05, 4 April 2009 (BST)

Repairing NT Buildings

I'd pitch in a ribbon for repairing a 50+ NT ruin. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 21:09, 31 March 2009 (BST)

Aye. Repaired a 17AP NT ruin the other day, but I doubt many 50+ ones would be around. Linkthewindow  Talk  21:25, 31 March 2009 (BST)
He's just suggesting that because he rebuild a NT Building for 78 points and survived recently ;). Well, it may give a ribbon too, but as we can scan without rebuilding, I'm not completely sure about that. Maybe something like a heroic extra award? -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 21:48, 31 March 2009 (BST)
Maybe, but I do believe our new Guide indicates that you do not need to repair an NT building in order to scan from it. I know repairing NT buildings sounds related to NecroWatch, but I'm concerned ribbons may veer off into pro-survivor tangents. Let's not forget that the main focus of NecroWatch is reporting scans, not maintaining NTs. However the individual goals of each member is their own (hence why the Guide includes additional information which I do not contest). Of course everyone is free to debate this issue here. :) --Mobius 13:53, 1 April 2009 (BST)
Hmm, Alka and Mobius raise a good point-- it is tangential to the NW experience. It'd be more appropriate to do something with generators. Back to the drawing board! Away! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 16:56, 1 April 2009 (BST)

Do we have a Talk Archive?

We might consider archiving some of these older discussions, or even re-tooling things a little. If we move forward with the new "most crowded scan" ribbon, maybe that deserves its' own sub-page? Just thinking out loud, really. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 06:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes. NecroWatch has one of everything. ;) --Mobius 12:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Scan to be Reset

Notice: Unless anyone has any objection, in a few days time I'm going to reset to blank all scans that are older than six months, to better demonstrate which facilities are in bad need of maintenance.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I encourage all NW operatives to, when taking a scan from a NT building, mention the NW to the occupants of the building and recommend that they join our effort.

That is all.

VI 02:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm fine with that, since data that old would serve little purpose. Make sure to use the settings and not the template defaults (i.e. change PNG extension to GIF, don't just blank it out) as it's more user-friendly that way. Also we should remove the last user's signature and replace it with something like, "No recent scan reported". No need to date it. And I think it's a great idea to talk-up NecroWatch while in NT buildings. I used to post a news item for the suburb where new scans were reported by members. While advertising is generally forbidden in suburb news, I would start it with "NecroWatch reported from the <blank> Building with a scan that showed there were <blank> zombies at <blank>...", and so on. That way it's relevant information, but at the same time players who read suburb news would spot this and might become interested. --Mobius 13:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
The settings? You mean like what I've done here?


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The Maine Building

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[ NecroWatch ] – [ NIC ] – [ Update ]
NecroTechnician:
No recent scan reported.


Yes, that's how it should be done. By settings I was referring to the template variables and the fact that if you delete them then it uses the default value (i.e. GIF for "FileExtension"), but it's better to just update the value. --Mobius 17:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Yep. Reset. It's about time A.L.I.C.E. had another error, perhaps a different cake even. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
First perhaps Carlos should report 46 more scans, say from NTs in northeast Malton? Then you could get that Eastern Recon Master ribbon he's so close to securing. After Alice has handed out some cake to you we could work on creating a second trophy... better cake and whatnot. ;) --Mobius 22:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


Be advised: The reset is underway. --VI 15:57, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

It is completed. VI 16:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh, the horror! I mean "static"! I think we need to bring NecroWatch back to the public's attention and help restore as many of these missing scans as possible. --Mobius 16:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Poor Morgan Blair had massive amounts of scans just within the cutoff. I've been advertising the program in every NT I visit. VI 17:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you guys protect NTs or just check them?

if u guys protect i was wondering if you would want a little help protecting them i am shade0095252 in game and i am leader of the new(and small sadly) group the shades of malton we would be willing to help if ypu do though we only have 4 active members for now we have a wiki here if you would like to check that out i hope to hear from you guys soon thanks for your time. --Shade0095252 00:19, 15 August 2008 (BST)

This use to be dedicated to just showing the scans from NT buildings, I don't think the founders do it anymore though.--N00bert foxhound 03:52, 15 August 2008 (BST)
I dropped by to run a gauntlet of answers before I run off again. The answer to this question, along with a few others I'll provide today, are meant to provide solid answers to anyone who happens to come along with a similar question at some point. In short, no, NecroWatch does not protect NT buildings, of course individual members may choose to do so at their own discretion. NecroWatch is not a group, and as such, no one tells anyone what they should or shouldn't do. Rather, NecroWatch exists as a repository where players can report scans from their characters, which in turn help paint a better picture of zombie activity across Malton. --Mobius 13:22, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

(Scenteral Intelligence, aka SI) is a group I'm working on that would have similar methods, structure, and purpose. However, instead of updating NecroNet scans using NecroNet access, memebers would use Scent Death to update the Scenteral Intelligence Map. There are only 81 SIM points, compared to 200+ necrotech buildings, so this should be comparatively easy, but for the map to be useful, updates need to be fairly frequent. What I really need is people with "junk alts" to park them on SIM points and register as being the "watcher" for that point, then update it daily. That takes just 1-17 Ap and 2-3 IP hits. If you want to spend a few more AP, you can bounce back and forth between two adjacent (even diagonally adjacent) points and cover them both every day for only 13-28 AP (15 or 16 IP hits). Obviously the alts need "Scent Death", but lurching gait (and ankle grab) are not needed, unless you really want to cover 3-4 points a day. SIM Core Map.png Swiers 18:34, 30 April 2008 (BST)

As always, anyone here who wishes to assist in other wiki-projects are free to do so. The way I see it, if it improves the enjoyment of UD players or the UD Wiki in general, then that's good enough reason for anyone to want to help out. Good luck with your wiki-project. :) --Mobius 13:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Annoyance of Resets to Blanks Scans

In the suburbs I usually "patrol", the NT Buildings lay in ruins, primarily due to the zombie rampage throughout Malton. Anyways, because of the zombie occupation, another Wiki user reset the NecroNet scans for those buildings back to the "missing scan" image. How annoying. Sure, it reflects the current status quo, but that's more work for the next updater to do, having to re-type details in the template and having to dig up the Upload page for the NecroNet scan image. Unnecessary hassle, bleh. Anyone else run across resets or make the resets yourself? --The Masked Lurker 21:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I did a reset a few months ago, but that was because the scans I posted were back from early-2007. That was back in the day when I posted any scan I could find for a location and the only member of NecroWatch was yours truly. After the project really started getting off the ground I felt it would be in everyone's best interests to get rid of those older scans so those of you posting scans could feel the glory of "posting first" for said location. It has a certainly thrill to it.
That said, I had originally intended that scans would be reset to static after a set period of inactivity. What that period would be, I hadn't decided. One month? Two? I suppose it really just depended on how out-dated the information was, especially in terms of the current zombies situation. As such, I mostly leave it in the hands of locals to decide. --Mobius 13:27, 31 March 2008 (BST)
- It has been suggested that a flag be added that switches the scan between the missing scan picture and the recent scan picture. That way, the filename and filetype doesn't have to be manually changed each time a NT Building goes active and inactive. As for the situation I was describing earlier, it had only been three days since I put up a scan before it got switched over to a picture of a missing scan. That's what I annoyed me the most. --The Masked Lurker 03:40, 3 April 2008 (BST)
This is a very good idea. If anyone with the required wiki code knowledge sees this, you should definitely go through with this idea. One month would be a good interval, I think. -- CITIZEN VI 18:54, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant

Just completed my 50th scan. All it took was headshotting two zombies, repairing the building, installing a genny and searching a ruined auto repair for fuel. But man, was it worth it. If only i can survive the night in a loosely caded fully powered NT on my own...............--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

You know that you didn't need to get rid of zombies to take the scan?.. Excellent job, anyway --~~~~ [talk] 22:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Yup. Zombies just let you power-up an NT building and scan away while they drool. Mind you, the life expectancy of your generator will be very short if left in the hands of the living dead, but hey, at least you get the scan. Good job collecting 50 scans! You're now 1/3 of the way to claiming your cake! --Mobius187 13:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I just hit my 30th scan today. Did you know no one had updated any Barville NT scans in almost 9 months? Yikes! Scored my ASE and Barville ToD at the same time! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 23:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

The Great Radio Group Massacre

Check-Mark-Reviewed.jpg Group Confirmed.
This frequency was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply.


I know this is a random request, but it's for all groups regardless of size.

-- Linkthewindow  Talk  22:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm. As cool as I think it is that NecroWatch has 26.24 MHz, I'm just not sure if it actually serves a real purpose. NecroWatch is more of a project than a group, so there is hardly any need for coordination between its members as they all really just do their own thing. That said, I have no idea who added the station or why, or if they are even using it (as I'm retired from UD). Hmmm. I would say keep it for now. If after the purge is completed there are still too few stations, then I would consider removing it. How does that sound? --Mobius 18:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay. I've listed you as active, as it looks like we will have a lot of inactive stations. Thanks! Linkthewindow  Talk  07:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
I actually have been using this radio band and, surprisingly, have gotten responses!--Dr Mycroft Chris 10:57, 17 April 2009 (BST)

Venting for a Moment.

AAAAAAIGH I cannot believe how many people have NecroNet Access and yet no one updates anything on the Wiki. It's like, what? Do you buy it just to take scans for your own personal curiosity? Good grief! It's like... I dunno. It's like you see a traffic accident or something, and you see that half the people standing there with you are on their cell phones, and you say "are you guys calling the cops?" and they all say "no, just playin' Tetris." AAAAAAIGH. Okay, feeling better now. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 21:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Heh. Yeah. I know the feeling. That's why I started NecroWatch, with the hopes that I could provide some added value and excitement (interest?) to people who want to report scans, and just don't get any credit for their hard work. --Mobius 12:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I think it's more an issue of ignorance than of willful inaction. We must always spread the word. I'm actually going to be giving a two part lecture series at the Malton College of Medicine in a few days about NecroTech science, and I'll be mentioning the NecroWatch in part two, so hopefully we'll see some increase in contributions. -- CITIZEN VI 04:13, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, for my part I try to encourage/interest more people to become involved by posting NecroWatch scan reports in suburb news. Something I encourage everyone in NecroWatch to do. If everyone can see how the scans are being used perhaps they will take a greater interest in reporting them. --Mobius 13:45, 6 April 2009 (BST)
AMEN! to all of the above--Dr Mycroft Chris 11:11, 17 April 2009 (BST)


Promotions

Here's an ad I made up...for starters--Dr Mycroft Chris 10:55, 17 April 2009 (BST)

It's been quiet in here...was that a tumbleweed I just saw?--Dr Mycroft Chris 18:46, 17 April 2009 (BST)

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I like it :) But how do you want to use it? -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 19:50, 17 April 2009 (BST)
Thanks! I figured we need some sort of promo ad on each NT Building Page. This way anybody who actually does check the wiki for the latest scans, might be enticed to consider us. I'm not married to this particular ad, thought it might look good as a full page in "Malton Monthly," though. I have other ads, smaller, that I'll put up soon for consideration.--Dr Mycroft Chris 07:38, 18 April 2009 (BST)

While we're on that subject, writing news in a more stylish way may help too. Like this, maybe: -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 19:50, 17 April 2009 (BST)

THIS is a great idea! I love it. My ONLY critique is I would make it a NecroWatch Template for consistancy of message, less confusing that way. Using something like this though, is perfect for getting a little more attention for our cause. Stands out a hell of a lot better than just some type that can easily be overlooked--Dr Mycroft Chris 07:38, 18 April 2009 (BST)
Well to ease the formatting (colored links are a PITA) i created a Template for the links. So we can have
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or just a link:
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in the needed color. As sometimes multiple scans for a sub are submitted, parameter multiscan=1 will change the first sentence to "...range of the facilities, accounting for overlaps". When we make official templates, we want short ones for ease of writing. NWnews and NWnlink may be suitable. So a link in the news would look like {{NWnlink|Warehouse 666,999|some warehouse}} instead [[Warehouse 666,999|some warehouse]] -- -Alka Selzer-   [ Talk - Map - Stuff 18:33, 20 April 2009 (BST)
I've just been reviewing the Recruitment page. It seems we might be in a "grey" area. It might be considered an ad promoting us if we were to use such a template on the suburb pages, BUT since we consider ourselves something akin to the External Military Reports...well, we are such a unique group, we might just run with it and see if anyone brings in the Drama Llama. At the very least we could probably tag our updates with the NecroWatch logo,e.g. below--Dr Mycroft Chris 18:16, 21 April 2009 (BST)

From Dunningwood Suburb page

April 2009

April 21st

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NecroWatch reported in from The Vetch Building, 24 zombies were within scanning range, the bulk of which were just over the border in Gibsonton, otherwise there were 2 @ The Harper Building, and 5 @ The Cater Building, a NecroTech Facility. The other zombies were scattered alone across the suburb and posed no serious threat--Dr Mycroft Chris 07:59, 21 April 2009 (BST)

April 1st
25.96 MHz: "... leaving Dunningwood, counted thirty or so outside ... they're just wandering around ... several buildings with power ... some minor structural damage ... the Vetch Building has lights on ... the Crampton Building is in bad shape ..." -- Kittithaj 18:20, 1 April 2009 (BST)

25.96 MHz: "... leaving Dunningwood, counted a couple of dozen outside ... they're just wandering around ... several buildings with power ... only a few buildings damaged ... the Vetch Building has lights on ... the Crampton Building is in bad shape ..." -- Kittithaj 15:08, 2 April 2009 (BST)
Well, i gave it a shot. I created 2 templates and posted news at Ketchelbank#April_2009. Let's Wait and see... if this is not wanted, we may ask for the logo only version. It's for the good of the wiki, after all. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 18:40, 21 April 2009 (BST)
NICE! Let's do it and let the damn cake crumbs fall where they may. If you can post where this template can be found and utilized, I think we will be on our way. Thanks--Dr Mycroft Chris 19:19, 21 April 2009 (BST)
As usual i included instructions/examples in the template. Look here. -- -Alka Selzer- [ Talk - Map - Stuff 22:23, 21 April 2009 (BST)

Excellent...I'll post the changes on the Resources page as well--Dr Mycroft Chris 22:48, 21 April 2009 (BST)

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What font did you use, Mycroft? And where did you get that image? CITIZEN VI 18:03, 19 April 2009 (BST)

The copy font = Times Roman, but the Title font = Courier. I wanted to use the same font that's in the NecroWatch Template, increases familiarity. The pic, I must admit, was found on Google, after many pages but thought it was uniquely appropriate for our needs. It was originally an ad for data storage from "Laboratory for Electronics," LFE--They were advertising that they had the lock down on data storage; 1 cubic foot of their electronics could store 15 MG...! I love those old computer ads, considering that now a lot of people carry a USB stick that is the equivalent of over 500 times that at a fraction of a fraction of what they would have to charge and also the savings in space--Dr Mycroft Chris 01:49, 20 April 2009 (BST)

Whoa, organization seems to have been shelved for this discussion, eh? Anyway, I like that template, that's pretty awesome. I wouldn't mind seeing that on the suburb pages, though just tagging with the NW image would get annoying if it's that big (and formatting issues aplenty). Advert wise, I can't see why you couldn't use Recruitment (you are a group, it's just you don't require in-game affiliation and your goals are different from most groups, no survivor or zombie focus, just scans), although the image wouldn't pass the current regulations (discussion about changing them IS on the talk page, but has stalled) I think you chaps should give the template a go and see about putting an advert up on Recruitment if you fancy. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 18:26, 21 April 2009 (BST)

Yeah, after actually looking at the recruitment page, the advert would not be accepted but I have hopes for what changes are being considered. More ideas for adverts coming--Dr Mycroft Chris 19:19, 21 April 2009 (BST)
OK, here we go...whaddya think for the Recruitment page?--Dr Mycroft Chris 20:06, 21 April 2009 (BST)
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...Needs YOU!


Zombies just don't count themselves, we need YOU to scan & post those scans to help the fight against BARHAH & disorganization

And there is delicious cake for those who qualify...just ask A.L.I.C.E.
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...she's watching right now


If you think you got what it takes (sheer indifference to all other concerns, lone wolf type personality, a tad bit vain, a taste for cake) contact NecroWatch today, we'll set you on the road to fame & glory tomorrow!

To learn more review the complete README.TXT file stored on the root directory before proceeding.:)


Awards

Good to see more awards avaliable. But heres a moan. If like me your concentrating on SE Malton, theres nothing really i can get! How about an award for the rowcliffe building? I mean its got a zombie group who's only aim is to destroy it!--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Maaan, i did rowcliffe on 22nd, don't won't to return there again. besides, it's just 1 suburb away from morrish, that had an award added. all in one place = bad --~~~~ [talk] 20:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
OK. Whats a good south eastern award? ITs just impossible in the SE. No ghost towns, no 5 burb NT's. Its 25 suburbs people. Surely we can find something?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Dunno... There's a tight group of NTs almost in the corner - i've did them all recently. Did i already grumble about not liking "tours of duty" being bind to suburbs? (if remove grid, most of the "grouping" the NTs listed in tour wouldn't look too logical) --~~~~ [talk] 20:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Maybe the Axtence Building? It stands near center of it's suburb that doesn't have other NTs or malls. very stand-alone --~~~~ [talk] 21:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm all for providing ribbon medals associated with SE Malton. In general there are two types of ribbon medals associated with suburbs, either one to commemorate an important/famous NT building (i.e. the Blackmore Building) or a "tour of duty". The main stipulation for a tour being that it has 5-6 NTs, or has 4 that are proven be be under constant threat (i.e. because a dangerous zombie horde occupies that suburb for a majority of their time). I don't think I'll add anymore tour ribbons at this time, but you can make a case for an important/famous NT building in your area. Just name the ones you think are famous and tell me why. For example, how famous is the Went Building in Stanbury Village? --Mobius187 23:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Went? Quite very famous, it is even believed that the outbreak began from failed experment in this NT. It's always talked about when Nichols is under siege, as all other near-the-mall nts. On the other hand, it's 1 suburb far from Blackmore... --~~~~ [talk] 07:46, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
True, there should be some distance between the NTs, especially when we're fishing for a new title-holder among NTs which are all fairly famous to some degree. A pity the Quartly Library in Roftwood isn't an NT. Hmmm. How about the Malcolm Building in Whittenside? It seems like a popular NT associated with Fort Perryn. Someone at least went to a fair bit of trouble to record the building's history on its wikipage. --Mobius187 12:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
On a different note, how about the SW sector if the SE sector will get one? Sure, I'm glad that the SE sector is being considered since that sector is where my sole char is hanging around the majority of the time. However, the SW sector should be considered, just to be fair. The northern half of Malton does have the majority of the suburb-related ribbons. --The Masked Lurker 16:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I wonder what makes north Malton so damn popular? Well you're in luck, as I planned to release ribbons in sets of three anyway, so one of the remaining two ribbons could be for an NT in SW Malton. Does anyone have any suggestions for a famous NT in SW Malton? --Mobius187 17:01, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Just for a note, SW part of Malton has fewer NTs than rest. Look at Crooketon, Mornington, Wykewood, Reganbank, Lerwill Heights - no NTs at all, 1 in Grigg Heights and 1 in North Blythville... A bit thicker in south, but not as thick as in Molebank are, for example, or Eastonwood area. --~~~~ [talk] 22:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Marathon

Another thought. How about a ribbon for each of the 4 corners of Malton? There's already one for Dakerstown. So let's put one together for Dulston, for Miltown, and for New Arkham. --The Masked Lurker 16:45, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I like this, someting like malton wanderer. And solves the whole, nothing in the se problem.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:52, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Right, I'll look into creating a ribbon for this. I had actually something planned along these lines, a "marathon ribbon" of sorts that required you to report from a series of NTs (one per designated suburb) along a route, with the goal of completing the course within a set time frame. The four corners were a major part of that course. Later the holders of these ribbons would be allowed to participate in a larger marathon that would involve one of the much anticipated "trophies" I mentioned. For those who don't know, trophies will either be connected to an event (like a marathon possibly) or a stat. For example, say, "Most Populated Scan". The person who wins the trophy holds it and has his name etched into it (so to speak) until the next person wins it. Of course before I go forward with any of this I would like to hear what people think about these ideas. No point starting up something no one is interested in, so it's survey time! --Mobius187 17:01, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
How about multiple levels of marathon ribbons or multiple race courses? Since you were talking about qualifying races for participating in a trophy event, how about a 2-week-long race where one character has to acquire NecroNet scans from all the NT Buildings from each of the corner suburbs (i.e. Dakerstown, Dulston, Miltown, and New Arkham). It doesn't matter what order, as long as all the scans are acquired by one profile within the span of 14 days. The first one to do it in that timeframe would get a qualifying ribbon. Iwitness would be necessary to record your presence at an NT Building.
Hmmm, maybe it shouldn't be called a ribbon anymore. If it's going to be an event that's going to be announced as taking place at certain times of the year, maybe it should be called a medal. It's appropriate since it's going to be used as a qualifier (Possibly have a race one-a-month?) for participating in a trophy event (Trophy race once every three months? A seasonal event? Held during each equinox and each solstice?). --The Masked Lurker 17:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
To build upon what you suggested Lufio, what we could do is have marathon ribbons, which would act as merits (similar to "tours of duty", just on a grander scale) and marathon trophies/medals that would be awarded to a specific winner of a marathon, rather than just to whoever chooses to participate. A qualification to participate in the trophy/medal race(s) would be to get at least 1 marathon ribbon, for example "Four Corners" could be one. You still have to report that you complete all the required scans from all 4 suburbs from each corner, but you're not competing against anyone but time deadline.
I could create, say, 3 marathon ribbons, with "Four Corners" being the starter. Based on that distance seems a bit "done", as that's the maximum a player can actually travel. The other two ribbons, if I end up opting to create them (based on feedback), would probably have to either be a set path through more dangerous suburbs or increasing the number of NT scans required (i.e. 1 NT from each suburb between Dulston and Dakerstown, for example).
That said, the marathon trophy/medal would be an event where we set a specific date, and then everyone sets off to collect all the scans. Since you guys are fairly scattered I don't think it's fair to create a "starting point". Rather you can select the NT closest to your location (as they would be evenly spread out in every quadrant so to be fair) and then you move outwards from there. The goal will be to report scans from all the building on the list (race course) in the shortest time possible. To make it interesting I think we should also agree to post a link to each scan in a race header I'll create, so everyone can keep track of how well their competitors are doing. Perhaps even reporting commentary on incidents along the way (i.e. travel to an NT, but find it's being sacked by zombies). The person who completes the race first would then be awarded the trophy/medal (via template) and have their name added to a list on the Members wikipage for that trophy. Also the duration time (from first scan to last) would be posted so people can compare how they do against previous winners.
I do have a question, how do you guys think we should handle the way-points? Should it be any NT within a target suburb, or a specific NT in each suburb (for added difficulty), or all the NTs within a target suburb (for even more difficulty)? --Mobius187 19:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I think it would be better to do a list of NT's you had to scan, and that was it. That way you could pick a route, try to anticipate which ones would be powered etc. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, here is what I've come up with so far on the "marathon" ribbon medal(s):

  1. Minor marathon ribbons will be isolated to each quadrant, but obtainable by members who prefer to stay on in that quadrant of Malton (4 ribbon medals).
  2. Major marathon ribbons will require members to cross all 4 quadrants of Malton in varying degrees based on difficulty.
  3. Members must post an iWitness link to their scan in addition to posting the actual scan image.
  4. Members must report scans from each of the required NT buildings (way-points), but may do so in any order.
  5. The scan images (via iWitness) must all be completed within a specific time period.
  6. The fastest time(s) will be recorded for each race, and members ranked according to their times upon successful completion of each race.
  7. At least one minor marathon ribbon is required prior to competing for a major/trophy marathon.
  8. Some marathon races may include "scoring" based on random factors (i.e. total survivors inside NT, total zombies shown, total ID'd horde zombies, total race time, ect).
  9. Races that include scoring will rank racers based on the total score, not just the race completion time (i.e. fastest time).

No doubt this brings up certain questions. The reason for scoring is that it allows shorter races to still have something to aim for other than time. Some races may even be won based on major local battles, so timing itself becomes a factor. Namely, do you try to collect scans when a major horde is assaulting a suburb and hope for a higher score, but risk being killed in the process and your race time penalized for it? To start things off I think I'll create the minor marathon ribbon medals, and two major ribbon medals (the aforementioned "Four Corners" and one other). Based on how much you like these races we can expand from there. --Mobius187 20:07, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

No further comments? I'll assume then that you all agree with these guidelines for the marathon ribbon medals. I'll begin work on creating the 6 ribbons previously mentioned and will let everyone know when they are availble. --Mobius187 18:19, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Challenges

Im thinking out loud. How about other challenges. Maybe a necrotech is experiencing problems, with calibration or something. You could ask a necrotechnician to do X scans from that building within a timeframe of Y days or something. Which would be quite hard with say blackmore.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

That possible. I'm reluctant to place a ribbon medal though at a location where someone can already earn another ribbon medal from reporting there, so I think that may need to be factored in (i.e. Blackmore Watchkeeper). We could create it that the ribbon is not associated with a specific suburb, but instead requires a suburb reported as "Red" (Very Dangerous), although that does bring back the issues associated with proper reporting of the suburb's threat level (i.e. Ghost Recon). The other option is to try and select a suburb known to be a hotspot, say in central Malton. Then the objective would be to report at least once per day for a set number of days. The only concern I would have is if RL came along and ruined it for someone, so we may not wants challenges that take too long to reduce the likelihood that RL will interrupt it, especially if they lasted for a long time only to have that happen. --Mobius187 20:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
It would be a challenge if said building is constantly ruined, for example Stonnard and some of Eastonwood NTs. you need to bring your own gen+fuel to make 1 scan (that is enough for recon progress) in such NT, but it (gen) will be destroyed by guarding zombies within few hours. Thus to report, say 7 days in a row is a big challenge indeed! Blackmore? not really, when it is battled, it's easy to spot a moment when there's a running gen without using your own. --~~~~ [talk] 11:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
But as an idea, how about a co-op for such ruined challenges? (and ribbons earned in co-op in general) --~~~~ [talk] 11:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree, a challenge ribbon would make more sense if it were associated with a specific building, namely one that is known for being often ransacked/ruined or occupied with zombies, but at the same time is not famous enough to merit survivor intervention (so no easy openings or assistance from other survivors). That said, as there is already a "Tour of Duty" ribbon associated with Eastonwood I think we may want to look for another suburb. What about the suburbs along the west border in northwest Malton? I'm fairly sure they stay red/orange or ghost town almost year-round due to the efforts of Extinction. Roywood perhaps? The Gilesi Building in particular is surrounded by 5 empty blacks making it harder to approach and was reported to be "protected" by zombies.
On the matter of co-op ribbons, I'm all for it, but can you guys pull it off? NecroWatch is pretty much an organization that scatters you guys across Malton. I would hate to think I'm creating a scenario similar to a co-op mission in Guild Wars, where you have to find a team, but no one (or hardly anyone) is at that mission. It sucks big time. The other option is, well, that co-op is optional. Or more specifically, if you want to work with someone jointly to obtain the ribbons (for each of you), you can or you can work alone. Obviously working alone would be harder. --Mobius187 13:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, i've noted recently that my characters sometimes are 1-3 days after Rosslessness or Ottari, I've already met in-game and said hi to Techhead, the Gnome, Ghita and Yabel, so we're not that spread out. Co-op can help in situations with busy RL that you mentioned. i also don't like it being made too mandatory. --~~~~ [talk] 19:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
How many days do you guys think a challenge should last for? I'm thinking maybe 5-7 days, with one scan per day. As Duke noted, that could add up to 5-7 generators/fuels. You would also need to factor in possible searches if you lacked the supplies (i.e. working alone) or were killed (you would need to be revived before you miss the 1-day scan window between scans. --Mobius187 18:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
7 days... 5 days... i cannot decide. i'm bending towards 7 + "you can do it together" co-op (i.e. if another guy posted one today, you may not bother posting your own - it will count to your "team" anyway. Though, leave some kind of limitation, like each co-oping teammate needs to do at least 3 out of 7 if there are two of them and 2 out of 7 if three) --~~~~ [talk] 19:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
2-3 scans out of 7 in itself doesn't seem like much of a challenge in and of itself. How about either we cap co-op as 2-member teams or we incur additional days per each member beyond the initial. So if you try the challenge by yourself it requires 5 scans, 1 scan per day. If you try the challenge with other members for each additional member add +2 days. So 7 days/scans for a 2-member co-op team, 9 days/scans for a 3-member co-op team, ect. That way you share resources and "lives" (should one of you meet an unfortunate end), but it adds additional risk. Regardless though, let's have it that each member of a co-op team would need to report at least 3 of the scans themselves. --Mobius187 21:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

No Peer Review?

When I was first looking through the site, it all seemed so slick, for a minute I actually believed the "A.L.I.C.E. automatically promotes" line... But for all the various ribbons, I figured there would be some sort of application process, or required documentation, or whatever. Heh, maybe I'm just the kind of person who likes paperwork and such, but of course, having more (or any, where not needed) isn't really a good thing, and submitting a NecroNet scan already requires updating no less then three wikipages. However, I have this vague feeling of... "impropriety'"—for lack of a better description—when I can simultaneously award myself both the All-Seeing Eye Medal and the Paynterton Tour of Duty Medal, while at no point having to announce, record, or in any way justify that it was in order for me to do so (and "no", I'm not just looking for fanfare).

So, I have the audacity to suggest consideration of the following "two" implementations. One, expansion of the Recon page (or an additional page in a similar layout), so that licensed NecroTechnicians can sign the record whenever they have been "awarded" a ribbon (and perhaps also briefly document what it was for: in the case of the All-Seeing Eye, Ghost Recon—what suburb—and Combat Recon Medals—what facility, how many zeds); and Two, a Talk sub-page where we can just say, "Hey, this suburb was listed as a ghost-town "here", and when I scanned it, scans had not been made since "when", so I'm awarding myself "this" ribbon. No disputes? Great." Aside from being a place for people (such as myself) to assuage the need for some measure of "processing", it would be nice to have a place to see when other NecroTechnicians are achieving great feats of NecroNet scanning prowess!

Maybe this would all be both totally unneeded and unwanted (but maybe not), so I thought I'd put it out there, and see if there was any support for something like this. I don't think it would be at all difficult to do (wiki-wise)—maybe a bit of A.L.I.C.E. humor (and some ASCII art of cake), and as for using it, I don't think it would require any more effort then submitting a routine scan, and would of course need to be done with far less frequency. The hardest part would be to document previously earned achievements, a task which I would volunteer for of course, it being my proposal! --Morgan Blair 21:50, 29 April 2008 (BST)


The Most Crowded Scan

Can you beat this, huh? 578 zombies on 1 scan! --~~~~ [talk] 18:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Impressive. I hope you reported that in the Pitneybank news as it's a real headline-grabber. ;) --Mobius187 13:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Nope, didn't even think about that... Should i? --~~~~ [talk] 17:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Only if you want to. Just link to the suburb reports, or Necrowatch, and quote the number of zombies (total). I would suggest also mentioning which buildings are being threatened, but I don't think that's really changed since I last reported (other than the numbers). Your call. --Mobius187 17:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Due to old revisions of images being deleted (what i was generally against :( ) i've reuploaded the image here (good that i have all my scans archived) --~~~~ [talk] 07:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Yup. Word came down the grapevine (i.e. Grim) that I needed to delete old revisions because they were eating up too much space on the server (or eventually will if they kept piling up). As such, I am tasked with cleaning up old scan image revisions as their due dates come up. A shame really, as I liked the idea of the images creating a "history of scans", but it seems that goes against current wiki policy. Ah well. --Mobius187 13:53, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
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Oh lookie, I include(makes it not show up on unlinked).--Karekmaps?! 21:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Argh! Making me do math at 8:18 AM on a Monday? Well two can play at that game, I cheated and used the Windows Calculator so all that pesky math wouldn't hurt my brain. I counted 578 zombies. Not bad, but Giddings Mall still had more. Nevertheless, an "A" for effort. --Mobius 13:21, 31 March 2008 (BST)

I did a completely blank scan today. And another two with only one zed on each. Can I claim the least crowded prize?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

In my humble opinion, yes. --~~~~ [talk] 22:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Go for it! :) --Mobius187 03:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
And another one today. This is silly. Want to get a rank quickly. Try and do the SE recon like me. I'm averaging 4 a day.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
So far only one person has managed to get a Recon Master ribbon badge, and that's Ottari. I checked to confirm if this was the case. So the field is wide-open for you to earn teh first SE Master Recon badge. You can do it! --Mobius187 13:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Got the new most crowded scan contender big numbers --Mr NoName001 05:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

That's... wow... 799 zombies. Very impressive. Methinks I shall increase the zombie numbers for the Combat Recon ribbon medal. --Mobius187 13:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Ehm, no... Don't increase it. Don't limit all necrotechians to this single siege... --~~~~ [talk] 13:19, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Well I certainly woouldn't raise it to 800, if that's what you're inferring. I was just thinking that maybe 150/250 was on the low side after seeing these results. Perhaps 250/400 (one location/scattered)? --Mobius187 13:52, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I like 150/250 more. I'm actually seeking a place outside Giddings siege that would qualify this. If raise to 250/400 - it would be nearly impossible --~~~~ [talk] 14:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Well I wouldn't want to make it a pain in the butt to get that ribbon. Alright I'll keep the original numbers. --Mobius187 19:07, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Just when you thought the numbers couldn't get any higher Even Bigger--Mr NoName001 16:05, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


Status Report

   From: NecroTechian L3 Duke Garland
     To: <all@broadcast>
Subject: Status Report
   Body:
According to form FORMS-EN-2794-FORM as of 15:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC) there 
are 149 files in the NTNET2Local database, 57 are still counting as corrupted
or missing. This might be a success of project, as 73.4% of data was restored
just in several weeks of work since A.L.I.C.E. restoration. Congratulations!
Duke B. Garland
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q/4Qr3Ym9Vf7CkNS1jePcUA=UZyY
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Nice report. I posted it (more or less/formatted for space) on the main NecroWatch wikipage. :) --Mobius187 13:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


Total Scans

Does this number include scans of buildings previously scanned? I can see how this would be pointless with regard to cake, but since the goal of this organization is to maintain scan maps I can also see how it could also be used simply as a representation of a particular member's usefulness to the organization, and to Malton's survivors. VI 18:55, 22 September 2008 (BST)

Your total scans could include repeat scans from the same NT facility for the very reason you pointed out. It's not like anyone would be considered as "cheating" if they reported from the same NT multiple times, say one scan per hour. That's actually helpful in its own way, especially if there is a serious zombie threat to the suburb where hour-to-hour reports can really be useful to survivors watching out for zombie sieges (not so much so for quiet suburbs, but who am I to judge?). Feel free to rack-up an insane scan total as in the end your work is to everyone's benefit. Well, maybe not so big a benefit to zombies. NecroWatch is all about doing something helpful, getting some acclaim for it, and having a bit of fun while doing it. --Mobius 13:24, 23 September 2008 (BST)


Ghost Towns

According to the local news for Roachtown, it has too much activity going on to be really considered as a ghost town. However, it is still considered as one in the map of Malton suburbs. Would a NecroNet scan taken in Roachtown at this time count for the Ghost Recon ribbon? Or should we hoof our way over to East Becktown if we want the ribbon? --The Masked Lurker 18:18, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

We had some conversation about ghost towns on Ottari's talk page... Hm... Not sure what will Mobius say, but i think technically you qualify. Also i think that this ribbon must be removed fully as being dependent from sources outside A.L.I.C.E.'s reach. Maybe substituted with some another ribbon, maybe not. --~~~~ [talk] 18:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
It looks like the danger status of Roachtown is being contested as right now it's not ranked as a ghost town on the suburb map anymore. At this time only East Becktown is still considered a ghost town, so that option is still open to you. As Duke pointed out, if a suburb is considered a ghost town and your scans prove that is not the case you would still get the Ghost Recon badge, as the purpose of the badge isn't just to scan ghost towns, but rather report on their current status. Proving a suburb is not a ghost town is one of the reasons why scanning is important because the danger report system for suburbs is often based on flawed information (more often than not). It should be mentioned that if you do prove a suburb is NOT a ghost town, please update its suburb danger status, pointing to the scans as proof. On a final note, I will say that Ghost Recon, while a great idea (of mine) does have some issues. I am planning to add a few new medals and I will keep this in mind to avoid confusion in the future. Until then, East Becktown is your best bet at this time. --Mobius187 15:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Counting uploaded scans and Awards

Should there be not only general counting of scans but also counting of them that are first for the building? (Just did one and feel kinda proud :P ) --~~~~ [talk] 12:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

You mean, something akin to planting the flag on the Moon? I suppose I could create a Master List which list every NT facility and is signed by each player once they scan from it (with the first name being the first NecroWatch player to do so) and so on. I know that the Master Recon ribbon requires players to visit every NT facility in Malton (or in stages), so there is an ultimate purpose for going to every NT regardless. Still, a Master List might help me (and everyone else) keep track of where they've been so far and where they still haven't been for that ribbon. Okay, I'll whip something up and let everyone know when it's ready. --Mobius187 15:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Done. It only took me 8 hours (translation: you are forbidden from complaining). ;) --Mobius187 01:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Complaining? It's excellent! What a pity css cannot be used for wiki pages :/ --~~~~ [talk] 21:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad you like it. As for css, well, as the saying goes, "You can't have everything". Of course what I really wanted was to work out a way to have it so that when you signed for the NecroNet scan it checked to see if you were on the list already for that building, and if not, it added you automatically. I hate giving you guys more "work", even if it is only once per building. That's a lot of buildings (overall) and you have to remember about it each time. I could do that with a real coding language... but I somehow doubt wikicode is as flexible with multiple IF Statements, string compares, and updating resource files that would pre-populate a static list. Ah well. I wonder if there's a way to link the image "last updated" list in some way. But now I'm just drawing at straws. --Mobius187 23:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Caleb Usher, are you paying close attention on what scans people upload and if they make everything correct and also check if they earn some specific ribbons? I've only noticed that there are special ones for scans made in specific buildings or specific suburbs, all the time i didn't care about that. Well, i also think i won't care more about it further, so might accidently earn some of them and not notice... --~~~~ [talk] 11:29, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I've been keeping my eye on several people. Iscariot, Lufio, Ghita, and Ottari... to name a few. As you and cuio were handling everything associated with your posts, except for a few NT recon signatures from cuio here and there, I have not been tracking your ribbons closely. Of them the only tricky ones are Ghost Recon and All Seeing Eye, as those relate to circumstances within a suburb and not to a specific location. You will need to keep an eye out to see if you meet the conditions for those two ribbons. The others I can track through signatures for the NT locations. If you want, I'll take a look and see which ribbons you may have earned and I'll post a reply on your Talk wikipage. --Mobius187 00:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Image Categories

Let's help a bit UDWiki:Image Categorisation project, each necronet scan image on wiki should have [[Category:Necronet]] in the description --~~~~ [talk] 16:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Hm, now that i've checked - a lot of images already are in categories Category:NecroWatch and Category:Screenshots. While the letter is right - they should be there too, i start to think that categories NecroWatch and Necronet are just dupelicating one another. Hm. I'm bringing this to UDWiki talk:Image Categorisation... --~~~~ [talk] 16:55, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually this very same topic came up last month. It was brought to my attention by Ryiis and discussed here (basically). He suggested, and implemented a majority of, those two categories on every NecroNet scan image. NecroNet was suggested as a new category, but soon dismissed when it was decided that we already had the NecroWatch category, and they could all just be grouped under there instead. Of course, as you know, unscanned locations since then are most likely missing those two image categories (as there would not have been any image to add the category, just the placeholder "static" GIF). Other images used on the site have been associated with the "Icons" category. If a change is decided, let me know and I'll assist in implementing it. --Mobius187 17:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I just made a run-through of all the new scan images and added in the two categories (NecroWatch and Screenshots). I also noticed that you have included the Necronet category in a few of your images, which is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned. I always felt that Screenshots really didn't define the purpose of the scan images very well, but so long as they were categorized that would be a positive start. --Mobius187 17:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, here's a response from the categorisation project: The NecroWatch is a more general category and it includes group images that are not necronet scans. So it should include Necronet as a subcategory and all scans be in necronet category. (well, and screenshots too). I agree with such decision as it sounds logical. Of course it means we now need to go through all images and apply this category change on them (add category:necronet, remove category:necrowatch), what might be a lot of work, though i'm ready to face it --~~~~ [talk] 12:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The main advantage of having necronet scans all in the one category, by their own, is that the necronet category can become a sub-category of both NecroWatch and Screenshots, meaning that all those images don't have to "clutter" up the parent directories (ie. you don't have to put both necronet and screenshots and necrowatch categories on the page, only necronet, and it will still be sub-categorised in all) -- boxy talki 12:34 4 January 2008 (BST)
Wait, before I do anything I should clarify this. Which should it be, all 3 categories or only Category:Necronet? I'm fine with whatever we choose, and I am in agreement with Boxy in that if we do include the Category:NecroWatch on those scans it will only serve to clutter that category unnecessarily. Not that I use the category itself all that much, but there are over 200+ NT facilities, so eventually that will be a lot of images. Better to just group them under an alternate/sub category like "Necronet". --Mobius187 16:52, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, only one category on the individual image pages (Category:Necronet), and then that category is made a sub category of the others. At least that's the way I see it being most efficent -- boxy talki 09:40 5 January 2008 (BST)
Ok, looks like we all came to agreement, so i'll start sorting them now --~~~~ [talk] 10:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Edited

I edited the article for this page to break up the template code to make it easier to read the rest of the text. The template still works properly. If it's a problem for me to have done that, let me know.   --cuio (talk) (NW) 09:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Which template are you referring to? --Mobius187 20:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/NecroWatch/Team, where it shows the template codes for users to put on their pages. I just stuck a couple spaces into the sample codes so that it didn't stretch out the page.   --cuio (talk) (NW) 01:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, that's certainly okay. --Mobius187 16:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Automagical

There is probably a script that could be written to automagically link to Iwitness reports... but I am no magician, sooooo... :) --WanYao 23:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe. I looked at the source code for the iWitness reports and they appear to be formed from HTML. Therefore I'm assuming that iWitness copies the entire contents of a webpage, using HTML code, to recreate it. The problem here would be isolating the code for the scan and recreating it on the UD Wiki. This creates two other problems, the first being that we would need to recreate the template used to properly display the scan table (HTML table code, colour-coded with a style template) and the second would be replacing the existing system (as the current method uses image files, wherein this would need to display the contents of an iWitness report). Unfortunately I don't have any solutions off the top of my head, but should NecroWatch gain momentum then perhaps Swiers may work with the project to create some type of connection (if that's even possible). --Mobius187 17:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, Iwitness essentially just takes a copy of the HTML you are viewing (submitted via the bookmarklet) and modifies it very slightly to make it work on the Iwitness website. For the reasons you give above, I suspect the current image use is the more practical way to go; auto updates would take a LOT of work, and talents I do not have. A fair portion of the Iwitness site was coded by Max Grivas, including the database stuff that would be crucial to auto-updates. SIM Core Map.png Swiers 03:09, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Same Name NTs

This problem already raised in nic once: there are few NT buildings with same names in Malton. How is disambiguation done for images here? NameBuildingNecronet is not an option here --~~~~ [talk] 19:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

If by the images you are referring to the NT scan, then I should point out that each scan image is directly associated with the NT building the scan was taken from. In all Malton there is only one instance where 2 NT buildings share the same name, and relate to the problem you mentioned (i.e. how to differentiate them). As the problem itself was uncommon I opted to add a numerial to one image, as I recall. I hope that answers your question, if not feel free to rephrase it. --Mobius187 18:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but there's two of them: 2 x The Haslock Building, 2 x The Cheeke Building --~~~~ [talk] 20:14, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
You know I could have sworn I had a solution for this, but upon closer examination... Nope. Odd. Well it's time to go with "Plan B"... and that cost me 1-2 hours. I have Moved all of the sub-pages to their respective "suburb differentiated" locations (due to a problem with the Update/Timestamp) and I have included instructions for the 4 locations you listed. Feel free to check them. Basically the image "name" is numbered. As there are only 4 locations with this problem I felt it would be easier to resolve this issue this way rather than add suburb names into the equation. Thanks for pointing this out though. --Mobius187 17:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome =) --~~~~ [talk] 19:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Problem Updating Scans

I don't know what I did wrong... I tried to set up a scan for the Harford Building in New Arkham but it seems broken... FYI the scan is not 9x9 because the NT is on the border, dunno if that makes a difference... Here is the link to the image: Image:HarfordBuildingNecroNet.png --WanYao 16:51, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

It should be Necronet, not NecroNet. Reupload image on new destination and put old for A/SD. p.s. for reuploading go through the red link on it's current NTWatch tag --~~~~ [talk] 17:16, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes. Between us I know it should be NecroNet, and I always write it that way and correct other people often on that too. The problem here was that another user had posted several scans using that method, and rather than replace the scan images I opted to use them "as is". And that's how the naming convention for the scan images began. --Mobius187 17:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

FYI 2

There are a couple Necrotech facilities recently reclaimed. I'm not sure how many there are of you all, but they could use some more people to man them. I don't wish to reveal there exact location as of yet since were still in a fragile state, but they are in the far NW corner of the town. Contact me and I can give you more info if you would like to help out. --Mr NoName001 01:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually the goal of NecroWatch is to restore NT buildings and report zombie activity, but it is more of an organization than a group. Its members are allowed to even be affiliated with other groups, so long as they can still assist with the project. As there are a huge number of NT facilities across Malton and the eventual goal is to provide daily updates wherever possible, NecroTechnicians would not be working to man NT buildings full-time or in significant numbers at any one location. NecroWatch instead functions more as a mobile unit, traveling between NTs and posting NecroNet scans. Of course NecroWatch accepts all scans, even from non-members. Simply post an iWitness link or upload an image link (see below) and we will take care of the rest. In the end Necrowatch hopes to help survivors keep a closer eye on zombie activity. --Mobius187 01:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for that clarification. Funny thing is I should have realized who you were sooner. Never made the association between the DA and you till I saw your Forum post. I will try to help out when things are secure up here.--Mr NoName001 01:50, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
The rest of this topic has been archived to preserve 100% freshness. ;) --Mobius187 23:00, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Glad yoou like my idea. If you haven't gotten a chance you should read some of the most recent opinions, makes me proud of the admins. :) --Mr NoName001 01:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I noticed. But now is the time to move forward, taking the lessons of the past and building a better tomorrow. Hmmm. Now that I think about it I never did send you a formal join request for NecroWatch. I shall remedy that situation right now... --Mobius187 20:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I will join thank you, but you'll have to wait till I get on my own computer till I can. I just can't figure out this new one I'm useing ;) --Mr NoName001 06:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

FYI

I just wanted to point out that Grim has decided that it is his perogative to remove all your posts on the suburbs. I would suggest you go back and restore them to there former location. I will attempt to help out since I support NEcrowatch. I don't know why Grim decided it was his place to remove an event that happened weather he likes it or not. I do not believe what you posted on the suburb history was spam in any of it's definitions. You may want to speak with Grim on this matter.--Mr NoName001 18:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

It's already been taken up on A/VB as spam. Precedent is against this. Hell, even I've been warned for "spamming" my own groups page to remind them about something. This is 4 times as much as I did.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 18:23, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree that there is a certain amount of Spam on the pages, but if a person can't undertake a project that improves game play without it being marked as spam, especially a project as large as Necrowatch, In all seriousness whats the fucking point of even participateing on the wiki then? I mean in all seriousness the wiki makes up for the limited interaction in the actuall game. So why make a person that has chosen to undertake a major project simply because they have a desire to make the game better a bad guy? It dosen't make much sense to me? troll or not if no one play's this game, then there is no game. Simple fact I'm afraid.--Mr NoName001 18:30, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I think what I find interesting here is that any sort of unpleasantness might have been avoided had Grim simply come to me and informed me that my actions could be construed as spamming, as I never considered them to be anything of the sort. In truth I would have removed them in an effort to keep the peace and maintain happiness. As I've stated before, I'm an agreeable fellow and if I've done something to offend someone (inadvertently of course), I'm almost always willing to help undo it. Of course I prefer to discuss these matters, as in this case I'm not sure why this is considered spam since it served multiple purposes and I made each news post relevant to the appropriate suburb. Ah well, perhaps it's simply a case of apples and oranges. We each see things in a different way, but neither of us is completely wrong. --Mobius187 19:40, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
EDIT - It appears that it was ruled that my edits were not vandalism, but at the same time they weren't 100% acceptable either. As such I have no plans to restore them, as they did serve their original purpose (informing users about NecroWatch) and they would have been buried in the news archive come January anyway. It's no real loss. I think I'm only just a little disappointed that Grim didn't come to me first with his complaint as it was my understanding that any edit that does not have obvious malicious intent should first be discussed with the user who made the edit. Not that I hold it against him to delete it, but I felt he should have then chatted with me. Ah well. I'm recently of the opinion that Grim's heart is in the right place, but that he naturally assumes everyone's edits that do not follow wiki standards are malicious. Perhaps it's because I see a lot of hostility (read: wiki drama) leveled towards him on a common basis. It's a shame if that has somehow biased his opinion. I hope not. Anyway, it's back to business, unless there are further complaints leveled at me for promoting NecroWatch awareness. --Mobius187 20:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I have a complaint. Actually, no I don't. But I think there needs to be stuff like this. NecroWatch is a pretty good idea. Cheers, and good bye.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 20:51, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment and lack of complaint. ;) --Mobius187 21:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I tend to agree with your attitude on this one. I don't know if you saw what I had posted in the "talk" section on the A/VB page. I actually defended you quite well actually pointing out many of the same things you used in yoru defence. I am glad that they decided that what you posted was not spam. I find it irritateing that they removed the "offending" spam without contacting you and asking you to remove it first. I was getting rather irritated, but managed to keep it polite on the talk page despite my feelings towards grim. I am afraid that while his heart might be in the right place, his methods of how he goes about correcting things is perhaps a little wanting. He really needs to perhaps get off of his slightly elevated horse and realize that while he is an Admin, that in no way means he is any better, or more entitled to the wiki then any of the people who contribute to it merely because they enjoy the game. I hope that your further actions in the name of Necrowatch are recieved in a more open and accepting manor. I also hope that you were apologized to as your material was considered to be "crap" which I personally took offense to as I felt it was well thought out and informative, unlike much of the "news" posts one finds on the various suburbs. Yor fan ;) --Mr NoName001 21:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your support. I'm hoping that I can attribute it entirely to my position in the matter, and no solely on my "popularity". Grim seems to imply that I got off because I'm likeable, which I am, but there is also the fact that the charge of vandalism/spamming implies some degree of malicious intent, where I had none. All of my efforts to date are with the best interests of the UD Wiki in mind. Even if I ever actually did something wrong, then it just seems that the best course of action would be for the offended party to bring the issue to my attention. I'm always open for intelligent conversation and if a matter needs to be resolved, either by me retracting my edits or through compromise, then I'm all about working out a solution. Anyway, enough of this. Users coming here to learn about NecroWatch may get the wrong idea and this this is a forum for wiki drama! And we wouldn't want to spread that misconception, now would we? --Mobius187 21:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree Mobius, you may even want to move some of this stuff to the archives. I have to say I'm glad you got an apology, I just wish they would post some sort of final resolution on the page instead of it appearing that the admins are never wrong. Failability is a virtue, not a weakness.--Mr NoName001 22:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Pat On The Back

Just wanted to say I like the work your doing on the NT pages. They're nice and clean with intresting information on them. I like how your even incorporateing info that people had already posted. It's a nice touch. So just thought I'd give you a pat on the back for it Mobius :) --Mr NoName001 06:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I had no idea how many hours it would take to get as far as I've gotten. So far I estimate 10-15 hours to update all 100 suburbs (and I'm not done yet... I have a handful left). It actually worked in my favor that most NT wikipages had bupkiss done with them, as I worry the most about tampering with an existing layout and inadvertently annoying someone (as I've done in the past, so I try and keep an open mind and adjust some of the standard layouts to fit with NT wikipages that have greater pre-existing content. Once I'm done I plan to perform a series of sweeps and add additional information. Of course by no means are these layouts final. I jokingly question my "Mandate" section, which I created months ago for Dulston suburb NTs as a means of "bulking up" their content. In truth the section holds little factual relevance and should be exorcised from all the NT wikipages, something I've instead replicated some 200+ times now. How's that for ironic? Part of me thinks I should create templates to store static wikipage information that could be reused on all wikipages, but at the same time act as a repository for that information, by which any changes can be applied instantly. If I sound a bit off, I blame the fact that I just finished watching three episodes of Stargate Atlantis season 4, back-to-back, so pardon the jargon. Anywho, thanks for the appreciation. I hope that by creating these wikipages I'll interest more users in helping manage them. --Mobius187 18:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
My personal efforts has in no way done nearly as much for a wiki page as yours have. I posted the building pics on the Dakers NT and the Pillings building in Roywood. I liked how you made allowances for them. It's hard to know how to move some stuff around I've found. Some of it is nice and adds flavor but other stuff is quite worthless and even repeated across the page several times. What I like is how you have taken thei info already provided on the page and incorporated it into what you were already adding to the page. You really have incorporated needed info into an intresting page layout. Like I said a big pat on the back. I think it's a nice bit of work your doing, and I understand the hours your spending. My own no where near so ambitious undertakeing has added up to quite a few hours as well, and like your alot of it is simply cut and paste code for the page just to clean it up and make it more visually appealing. I suppose anything we do to clean it up is better then leaving a page that just says "insert building name here" If you know what I mean :) --Mr NoName001 07:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Well I'm of the opinion that most users are not up to creating a location wikipage from scratch, but if you provide them with one that has a ton of content they're more inclined to add a bit of their own to make it more unique, or simply provide news for that location. Sometimes people ask me if they can make edits to "my" location wikipage because they see I've done so much, but the fact of the matter is no location wikipage belongs to any one user or group, so I'm always inclined to support their changes. After all, the UD Wiki is all about working together to create something for everyone. In the case of Project NecroWatch I'm just trying to give an added purpose to those people who take the trouble to scan, but then cannot find anywhere to properly display that information afterwards. This way they get added value for their efforts. On that note, if you are inclined to offer-up any of your survivors who would be interested in joining NecroWatch that would help, as there are many suburbs that need updates (as you can tell by all the "static". As a note, having multiple alts join NecroWatch is not zerging/alt-abuse, because NecroWatch is not a group, it's a Wiki-based project (so long as your alts are of course the recommended "several suburbs apart" this won't be any issue). For added incentive I plan to create reward ribbons for users who report scans from difficult locations (i.e. the Blackmore Building), of course the fact that you wouldn't be required to "hold" these locations would allow you to run in, drop a generator, fuel it, complete a scan, and then get the hell out of Dodge seconds later. If you're interested then feel free to sign-up above. Of course you don't need to commit to NecroWatch to post scans, anyone is encouraged to do that regardless. --Mobius187 17:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I will most definitely be participating in the Necrowatch imitative, as soon as I get some other little bothers squared away :) I will however be able to provide scans from possibly a more dangerous building then the Blackmore, the Pask in Dakers, I know I can't believe my bravery either ;) --Mr NoName001 23:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
No rush. I haven't even created all the award/merit ribbons yet, so it wouldn't do to have to claiming them until they're ready. ;) --Mobius187 17:32, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello

I would like to extend a welcome to Viva la revolution--Jakezing 03:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Your warm welcome is appreciated. If anyone from your group is interested in contributing to Project NecroWatch, please feel to send them our way. Membership in NecroWatch is not binding as this is a project, and not a group. NecroWatch only exists to aid survivors by posting NecroNet scans wherever and whenever possible. --Mobius187 06:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

A Helpful Little Gnome

So, I just run around, upload necrotech scans and extract DNA from dead bodies? --  AHLGTG 19:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

That pretty much sums up the job description. You can upload NecroNet scans in a variety of ways. If you're busy, for example, you can take a screenshot and dump it into Photobucket or any other free online image hosting site and just link to it here. Then I'll take the time to crop and upload the image, and then hand the credit of the scan to you. The goal is to make the "job" as easy as possible to encourage more people who wouldn't normally post NecroNet scans anywhere after taking them to do just that. This way everyone benefits. DNA scanning bodies is an optional professional choice. Obviously un-DNA scanned zombies won't appear on NecroNet scans, and thus defeats their purpose. At the same time I'm sure there are a legion of inexperienced and veteran survivors who DNA-scan zombies fairly regularly, so you are not obligated to do the same job. The primary goal is to report NecroNet scans whenever you can, especially if you see a suburb that doesn't have any recent scans reported at NecroWatch. I can only imagine the number of "private" scans hosted on iWitness that we can't tap into... ah well.
NecroWatch is still are fairly new organization, so I will continue to add more to it as we proceed, but for now do as much or little as you like. Feel free to read the FAQ, or post any other questions here. If there is enough demand I may also set-up a forum so chatting will also be easier. --Mobius187 21:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)



Old Scan Reports

Iscariot's NecroNet Scans

Hopefully this is in the right place.
http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-01-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_53-22_Whippey_464-4f3-a75.html
Scan taken moments before this post -- Iscariot 23:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, this is the correct location. I checked your iWitness report though and noticed that the formating for the scan map is a bit... "off". But you know what, I'm a nice guy, so what I did was I took the old scan for that NT location and edited it in Photoshop to display your information. Then I dated it and gave you credit. Not that I want to do that every time though. You may want to find out why your NecroNet map is showing up that way though. Anyway, thanks for contributing. :) --Mobius187 23:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I see, must be something to do with the add-ons I'm using, either UDtoolbar or UDwidgit. I'll see if I can find out why when I have the time. Ta for the update Iscariot 23:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Here are today's, hopefully the map problem's been fixed:
Whippey Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-02-08_1800hrs_PUBLIC/IN_53-22_Whippey_18d-ffc-b73.html
Nisbet Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-02-08_1800hrs_PUBLIC/IN_55-28_Nisbet_4f3-647-9ac.html
Both taken minutes before this post. Iscariot 19:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the scans. I've uploaded both of them to their respective locations. --Mobius187 19:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Today's run:
Hawksley Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-03-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_54-19_Hawksley_ea5-921-618.html
Muller Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-03-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_55-17_Muller_b53-b46-026.html
Saint Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-03-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_55-13_Saint_a04-f91-50a.html
Jeffrey Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-03-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_56-15_Jeffrey_97d-e2a-0cf.html
Lazenbury Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-03-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_59-10_Lazenbury_4d4-392-345.html
Lambley Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-03-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_58-8_Lambley_805-d43-682.html
Goldsworthy Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-03-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_64-13_Goldsworthy_52a-f86-26a.html
Halay Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-03-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_65-17_Halay_e60-578-681.html
Vicari Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-03-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_68-20_Vicari_119-00e-398.html
There'd have been another from Whippey but I stupidly took the screen shot before I accessed NecroNet. -- Iscariot 21:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
That's some excellent work. I've posted all of your scans and given you the proper credit for them. Good job. ;) --Mobius187 00:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Today's:
Well there would be today's, but iWitness seems not to be working. As for the message on my page, sign me up -- Iscariot 21:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
You may have had some troubles, but during a routine check of iWitness I did find this report you made:
Harenc Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-04-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_63-8_Harenc_Building_97c-60d-b5a.html
I have thus added it, given you credit, and upped you total scans for you on the Members wikipage (up to 11 now). --Mobius187 21:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
That was the one that wouldn't come up for me, odd.
And on with tonight's:
Updated Harenc http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-05-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_63-8_Harenc_d23-cae-817.html
Haslock Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-05-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_69-5_Haslock_ac8-326-90a.html
Lance Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-05-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_76-12_Lance_f2d-876-7a7.html
Starr Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-05-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_89-6_Starr_5c8-f8e-c06.html
Carlyle Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-05-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_89-4_Carlyle_dc2-5a6-14e.html
Wallbutton Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-05-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_89-3_Wallbutton_f3e-d83-e5e.html
Bridgman Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-05-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_91-2_Bridgman_5b0-503-6ff.html
Iscariot 21:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Uploaded and updated. Thanks again. --Mobius187 15:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Today's:
Bridgman again http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-06-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_91-2_Bridgman_fe4-1b7-8b6.html
Whitlock Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-06-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_92-5_Whitlock_715-79a-847.html
Waish Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-06-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_93-11_Waish_cbf-5af-845.html
Clewett Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-06-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_91-14_Clewett_c7e-47a-ade.html
Inman Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-06-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_95-15_Inman_67a-cc8-622.html
Crampton Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-06-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_98-20_Crampton_322-eb7-c29.html
Have you thought about creating a list similar to the one I'm trying to for the Culture Tour 2008? It could be grouped and noted so that people can cross out the sites they've scanned and make it easier to plan which buildings to visit. Iscariot 23:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I've added your scans. You appear to be hot on the tail of another NecroWatch member (1 day behind to be exact). While I do not have so much a list by which you can "cross off" where you have visited, I do have something very similar which I just created here. As you can see, all you need to do is visit this wikipage and sign for the building's you've visited. It's sorted by NT building name. Later this can be used to determine which Master Recon badge(s) you've earned. Actually, moving forward you can update this section yourself after posting your reports. --Mobius187 02:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Not that many today, had to get over a slight case of death
Ducat Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-07-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_85-27_Ducat_4ec-abc-87c.html
Canner Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-07-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_89-26_Canner_c64-acb-cb9.html
Iscariot 23:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Canner http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-08-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_89-26_Canner_831-712-4af.html
Ducat http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-08-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_85-27_Ducat_754-f60-8cc.html
Patterson http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-08-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_81-20_Patterson_178-fab-f45.html
Lance http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-08-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_76-12_Lance_734-8e8-6d4.html
Woolven http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-08-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_72-16_Woolven_be5-0e8-d0e.html
Halay http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-08-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_65-17_Halay_3f1-556-a57.html
Iscariot 23:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Great job. I've recorded all of these scans, and the ones from your previous day (although I didn't mention it at the time). I've also added your name to the relevant building "lists" in the NT Index wikipage. --Mobius187 00:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Goldsworthy Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-10-08_1900hrs_PUBLIC/IN_64-13_Goldsworthy_296-2fe-989.html
Harnett Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-10-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_62-12_Harnett_143-ecd-8c1.html
Lambley Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-10-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_58-8_Lambley_f68-6fa-193.html
Sheppard Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-10-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_48-7_Sheppard_720-245-11d.html
Style Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-10-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_42-12_Style_133-f75-5f4.html
Iscariot 21:18, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Done and done. :) --Mobius187 13:07, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Style Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-11-08_2100hrs_PUBLIC/IN_42-12_Style_60e-05f-bba.html
Frappell Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-11-08_2100hrs_PUBLIC/IN_30-18_Frappell_dd3-7da-a69.html
Herman Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-11-08_2100hrs_PUBLIC/IN_24-26_Herman_368-3e6-e7a.html
Latrobe Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-11-08_2100hrs_PUBLIC/IN_21-28_Latrobe_e28-52c-f22.html
Iscariot 22:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Latrobe Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-12-08_2100hrs_PUBLIC/IN_21-28_Latrobe_977-867-007.html
Harraway Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-12-08_2100hrs_PUBLIC/IN_13-25_Harraway_96b-c41-731.html
Shears Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-12-08_2100hrs_PUBLIC/IN_16-6_Shears_b0d-81f-057.html
I scouted Pask, completely ruined. -- Iscariot 22:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I added the scans for both periods, although I didn't mention it for the last set of scans because it was 2:30 AM when I did it and after that I just went to sleep. On a note, you may want to coordinate with cuio and/or Ottari as to where you guys are going, because in two instances I had trouble judging whose scan was older, as both were in different times zones and just a few hours apart. Of course you will get credit for the scans (total scans and building scanned in "Master Recon"), but it may be to everyone's benefit if there was more distance between the three of you. --Mobius187 03:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Mine are all done in the 5 minutes preceding my post. I'm only in the North to avoid my other characters and get the Extiction medal, though somebody wrecked the NT. After Damon Young's through I'll head South. Anyway, todays:
Shears http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-13-08_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_16-6_Shears_b4d-22d-1e8.html
No others today, the RNG hated my search for fuel. Selley has a generator now though. -- Iscariot 23:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, best of luck trying to get that ribbon medal. I've added your scan. --Mobius187 02:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Selley http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-15-08_1300hrs_PUBLIC/IN_14-0_Selley_639-ece-ac3.html
Iscariot 14:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Done. Looks like you're close to your next promotion. --Mobius187 17:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
MWAHAHAHA Got it! (Bloody iWitness doesn't work) The Pask Building http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2240/paskjw6.png
Now for the Ghost Town one ;) -- Iscariot 18:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Good job. That's another ribbon badge for you and another step closer to your promotion. --Mobius187 19:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
The Nunn Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-12-08_1300hrs_PUBLIC/IN_64-40_Nunn_70d-dc0-dd4.html
-- Iscariot 14:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Done and done. --Mobius187 21:30, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
The Poulter Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-13-08_1900hrs_PUBLIC/IN_39-55_Poulter_307-46d-fa8.html
-- Iscariot 20:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Your scan has been processed. Keep up the good work. --Mobius187 12:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
The Brennand Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-14-08_1900hrs_PUBLIC/IN_30-52_brennand_2ae-f57-c8e.html
The Culling Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-14-08_1900hrs_PUBLIC/IN_37-64_Culling_f5e-7ec-199.html
The Foreman Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-14-08_1900hrs_PUBLIC/IN_39-69_Foreman_13a-c0f-943.html
-- Iscariot 20:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
The Foreman Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-15-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_39-69_Foreman_2b7-3f8-2a5.html
The Hazeldine Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-15-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_26-70_Hazeldine_db2-466-e2f.html
The Preston Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-15-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_27-74_Preston_2c4-446-049.html
- Iscariot 21:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
All 6 reports have been recorded. Thanks. --Mobius187 04:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
The Preston Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-16-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_27-74_Preston_809-d83-f22.html
The Pippard Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-16-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_29-72_Pippard_922-9f9-83e.html
The Pursey Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-16-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_27-84_Pursey_c61-2f3-566.html
The Highton Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-16-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_30-81_Highton_eab-ca3-831.html
The Bagnall Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-16-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_36-83_Bagnall_5a1-6eb-44c.html
-- Iscariot 21:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
The Missen Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-17-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_37-95_Missen_f51-2a8-27a.html
The Mayer Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-17-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_36-95_Mayer_e29-ca7-66d.html
The Forst Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-17-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_30-96_Forst_abc-98e-495.html
The Brockliss Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-17-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_25-90_Brockliss_6fe-057-158.html
The Button Building http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/02-17-08_2000hrs_PUBLIC/IN_19-97_Button_b20-a2d-fb8.html
-- Iscariot 21:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. All your new scans were uploaded (with help) and I have updated your scan tally. --Mobius187 14:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Ghita's Scans

http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-11-08_0200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_57-34_Chudley_Buildin_f3c-f9e-233.html

Ack! I've seen this before. One of the other browser tools you are using is conflicting with the NecroNet scan table. You may want to inquire with Iscariot to find out which one. As it stands it's almost impossible to format scans that have been adversely affected in this way. A shame. I tried once, you know... manually copying and pasting zombie stats onto an old scan... but that took way too long, and then it crashed Photoshop. I think it may have been because I was using Magic Eraser to auto-crop around numbers as I transferred them, or specifically that I was using Japanese as the default computer language on my PC at the time. I think what I'm saying is, see if you can resolve this scanning issue. :) --Mobius187 13:26, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Nisbet Building 11th January
Turner Building 11th January

Since something was messing with the scans, I've got them neatly screenshotted and cropped now. --- Ghita 14:36, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I have uploaded them. Just to confirm, the scans are taken just a few minutes prior to when you post them here, correct? The reason I ask of course is because I am using your signature timestamp to date the scans. If that is not the case, feel free not to crop the scan images and just post a screenshot of the entire screen, if it does in fact show the date in it. That way I'll reference them by the actual time the scan was taken. --Mobius187 15:06, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Yep, it's just a seconds or at most a minute or two which is the "lag".

Gabe Building
Whippey Building
-- Ghita 01:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I have uploaded your new scans and given you the appropriate credit for them. Keep up the good work. --Mobius187 06:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

New scans. I'll continue this way tomorrow, so more comign soon.
Saint Building Millen Hills
Hawksley Building Millen Hills
-- Ghita 03:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

More from Millen Hills:
Jeffrey Building
Muller Building
-- Ghita 12:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Lazenbury Building, Millen Hills
Lambley Building, Lamport Hills
-- Ghita 21:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I have uploaded all of teh scans which are current. Overlap between yourself and Ottari though led him to report scans a few hours later at some locations, As such, I could not upload those scans. Even so, you will still be given credit for the scans and in the Master Recon. --Mobius187 03:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Lots of unpowered NTs in Raines Hills, but got one scan:
Goldsworthy in Raines Hills
-- Ghita 14:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Done and done. --Mobius187 15:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Just one new one today again:
Vicari Building in Huntley Heights
-- Ghita 06:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Added and credit awarded. --Mobius187 13:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Plowright Building in Huntley Heights
-- Ghita 02:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

And this is how Ridleybank looks:
Blackmore Building
-- Ghita 02:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Done and done, for both of them. Good job at Blackmore by the way. That earns you the "Blackmore Watchkeeper" ribbon medal. Keep up the good work. :) --Mobius187 13:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Only one tonight as the other NTs in Barrville remain ransacked/unpowered.
Nix Building in Barrville
-- Ghita 00:40, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I've uploaded your scan. --Mobius187 12:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Woolsett Building in Barrville
-- Ghita 15:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. --Mobius187 19:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Eagan Building in Barrville
-- Ghita 10:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. --~~~~ [talk] 11:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Neagle Building in Barrville
-- Ghita 00:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Done --Mobius187 03:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm probably going to stick around Fort Creedy in the near future.
Farmer Building in Pitneybank
-- Ghita 22:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. Also one of my characters is there and took a scan just a day before you. --~~~~ [talk] 06:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


Sexualharrison's Scans

scan#1

Done. I've uploaded your scan and given you credit for it, as per policy. --Mobius187 12:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

scan#2

Done and done. --Mobius187 13:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

hall nt----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 18:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Done and done. --Mobius187 21:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

whippy----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 15:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Done and done. Yesterday actually. --Mobius187 13:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

ZS Revitech Scans

January

First report from Zombie Squad (I believe).

New Flowar scan. OverlordQ 00:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Keep up the good work. :) --Mobius187 13:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

New Daubeney Scan, New Attwell Scan, New Pankhurst Scan OverlordQ 23:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

New Sugg Scan!! That gets me Ghost Recon!!! OverlordQ 07:59, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Congrats on earning your Ghost Recon badge. --Mobius187 16:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


Mr NoName Scans

Ok Mobius I think I have a new contender for the "most zeds in a single scan EVER" category. Of course one has to remember a number of these MUST be survivors. On a side this is probley as easily called "the fall of Giddings" scan. As this is from morrish and it is probley the last time survivors will be in Giddings for at least a few days ;) Enjoy the scan--Mr NoName001 06:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-31-08_0400hrs_PUBLIC/IN_84-43_Giddings_from_M_a68-887-0f3.html

Thanks. I have posted your scan and accredited it to you. By any chance have you considered joining NecroWatch (as per our last discussion)? This scan alone would be worth 2 ribbon medals. Just a thought. --Mobius187 13:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Got a new one for you Mobius. Ya I'd like to join now. Esp since it seems the group I'm with is going to be defending NT's just about ffor a living. Were makeing out last stand at Morrish now. here's another scan. I posted it in the most crowded but I'll put it here to :) Gonna be doing a LOT of revives! new scan

I've posted your new scan (you and Dount Cooku sure are reporting a lot of scans from Morrish NT, keep it up!). Glad to hear that you want to join up. Just be sure to fill out the proper form and I'll add you to the membership list. --Mobius187 16:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


Lufio's Scans

February 22, 2008 - It looks like the RNG took offense to my assumption of easily finding a new Portable Generator and some Fuel Cans. Bah!

At least the survivors in the area have started reclaiming the northern half of the suburb. And that the zeds in the McCullock Building hadn't noticed the Portable Generator I had set up there yesterday. I lucked out finding those two NT Buildings powered. --The Masked Lurker 09:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Done and done. --Mobius187 13:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

February 21, 2008 - Two down, one to go. Took a look inside all three NT Buildings in Miltown, but I only had one Portable Generator. The zeds had reclaimed the Cartwright Building, so I grabbed a scan from one of the others I hadn't claimed yet.

Another NT Building to which to add my name. Should have the third and last one in this suburb tomorrow, barring break-ins at the powered Factory I'm holed up in. --The Masked Lurker 04:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Done and done. --Mobius187 13:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

February 20, 2008 - Why, oh why did I waste my AP trying to kill off the lone zed in a NT Building? Feh, trying to do a good deed for the embattled survivors in Miltown. I should just remember to observe, but not interfere.

Just one NT Building visited in today's adventure, due to my failed Lone Ranger impulse decision. Why, oh why couldn't I take away those last 2HP on that guy? Why? Ah, well. At least I got another NT Building to which I can add my name. --The Masked Lurker 06:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Well regardless of whether or not you get that zombie, good job. I've uploaded your scan. --Mobius187 13:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

February 19, 2008 - Being sick sucks. Anyways, looks like the zombie forces in control of Whittenside have rallied to retake the NT buildings. Only one scan to add this time, but at least it's one from the NT building I was missing.

That's another scan to be added to my tally. That's 7 in all, with 3 first scans from NT buildings I've never visited before. --The Masked Lurker 06:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

What's all this then? I go away for the weekend and find someone was still working? I think I speak for everyone when I say your awesome work effort needs to be tempered with more laziness. At the very least you need to either be lazier than me, or healthy enough to post your own scans. One or the other really. Way to make me look lazy. No one else had better be reading this. Now where was I, ah yes, I have uploaded your scans and will update the tally/Recon list accordingly. ;) --Mobius187 13:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

February 18, 2008 - Looks like I'm doing relief work here at Whittenside. I know I should have set up my sole portable generator at the NT building I haven't gotten a scan from yet, this suburb is so ransacked. The survivors need all the help they can get. So I powered up a NT building I already had a scan from. ^_^;;

I'm still sick. So if someone else could put up these scans, it would be much appreciated. And also update my tally. And add my name to the appropriate NT building list if they haven't been added yet. --The Masked Lurker 08:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

February 17, 2008 - Still sick with what's likely the flu. Someone else will just have to convert the Iwitness records of my NecroNet scans. I'm too tired, and I ache all over.

This is the first time I got a scan from the Colglough Building. Yesterday was my first scan from the Malcolm Building. --The Masked Lurker 05:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

February 16, 2008 - Been away from the game for a while. Needed a break. So for now, I'm just going to put up links to NecroNet scans.

The local news for Whittenside says the neighborhood is a ghost town, but the scan says otherwise. I think the person who changed the neighborhood status doesn't quite understand what a ghost town is supposed to mean. Still, does this count for the Ghost Recon ribbon, even if someone made a mistaken in changing the suburb status from Very Dangerous to Ghost Town? --The Masked Lurker 07:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

January 31, 2008 - Passing through West Grayside on my way to Wyke Hills. Testing out the crippled IWrecords.

I'll likely put up the image myself later. I just wanted to test IWrecords. --The Masked Lurker 15:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

- Just uploaded the image and updated the NecroWatch records. And I've also been making Iwitness records of all the scans I did today. They've been useful for updating the status reports of the various NT buildings I've visited. --The Masked Lurker 16:30, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Congrats on your promotion. ;) --Mobius187 16:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

January 20, 2008 - Visiting Crowbank now. No one has uploaded any scans for the four NT Buildings here. Updated the scans for Doubting NT, Blocksidge NT, and Spragge NT. I also jotted down my visits on the Recon page, added these 3 new scans to my total tally, and raised my rank in the Membership page. Mydleham NT has no Generator. Going to be working on that. --The Masked Lurker 22:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

- Was able to get a Generator and Fuel Can rather quickly. Scan for Mydleham NT is up, and it now has an entry in the Recon page. I also added another scan to my tally. --The Masked Lurker 23:31, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Just a minor note. I just realized that I qualified for the All-Seeing Eye ribbon all over again. ^_^;;; --The Masked Lurker 23:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Well so long as you keep track of everything that's less work for me. Pity, but you can only earn the "All-Seeing Eye" once. On the plus side, any new NTs you've scanned will go towards your Master Recon badge. --Mobius187 03:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

January 19, 2008 - Visiting the NT Buildings in Gulsonside and Scarletwood. I'm going through the uploading and updating process once again. With Iwitness still unable to record, not having IWrecords as a ready means of datestamping the scans is a pain. Annoying. >_<

Anyways, I updated the scans for Perryn NT and for Wetherall NT in Gulsonside and for Showers NT, for Sealey NT, and for Tompson NT in Scarletwood. Creek NT in Gulsonside had no Generator; just zombies.

Still not updating the tally of my scans though. I don't know how many I've done, so I don't want to mess up the count. Anyways, that's 5 more scans from me. --The Masked Lurker 19:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha. I'll assume you also signed for all of these as well, so I'll add these scans to your total. As below, if you want to you can take up this task too, but be sure to let me know if that's the case. :) --Mobius187 01:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

January 18 2008 - With iWitness seemingly out of commission, I can't rely on it to record my scans. Gonna try doing the uploading and updating process on my own with the Axtence Building in Osmondville. I won't mess with my scan count though. I have no idea how many I've made. --The Masked Lurker 01:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I can confirm that everything looks great, you even added your signature for the Recon list. As for adding your scans to the total I'll do that, but in the future you are free to do so yourself. I have tracked all of them to date. Just let me know if you decide to add your scans to your Membership total, just so I don't double count them by accident. ;) --Mobius187 01:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

January 17, 2008 - Bwah haha hah ha! Four out of four, baby! After dying, getting revived, cursing the search RNG (3 Fuel Cans in the first 15 AP spent searching from a factory!), I finally was able to find a Generator to put up in the Tribe Building. All this in just one day...

Anyways, am I able to qualify for All-Seeing Eye if the first scans in a while were spaced out over several days? --The Masked Lurker 19:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I have confirmed that you posted the only scans and that no newer scans were posted within the past month other than yours. All that the "All-Seeing Eye" requires is that the scans be posted within a month of each other, a few days is no concern. So yes, you have earned the ribbon medal. I'll add 4 to your scan total. --Mobius187 01:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

January 16, 2008 - Still no luck with Generators. However, I did take the time to get an updated scan from the Owsley Building.

--The Masked Lurker 15:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I uploaded the scan (yesterday actually). --Mobius187 12:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

January 16, 2008 - Generators seem to be avoiding me. No go for the Tribe Building once again. Just updates from the twin NTs. What a waste of AP that search was; I should have taken the time to grab a scan from the Owsley Building as well.

--The Masked Lurker 08:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I've added both scans. You'll get Tribe sooner or later. --Mobius187 13:09, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

January 14, 2008 - I was able to recruit some help in providing power to the twin NT Buildings in Houldenbank. So that's two more for that suburb. Three down, one more to go. Oh, yeah. I grabbed another update from the Rothwell Building in Penny Heights since I won't be returning there for the next day or so. The Tribe Building awaits.

--The Masked Lurker 22:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, now that's a bit less static. Good luck with the Tribe Building. Kill that static! ;) --Mobius187 13:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

January 14, 2008 - Having trouble acquiring more Generators and Fuel, so no new scans for Houldenbank. Just updates from Penny Heights for now.

--The Masked Lurker 03:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Good job. I've updated your scans. You appear to be the only person reporting for Penny Heights. --Mobius187 13:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

January 12, 2008 - I'm going to start putting up the newest scans I have made at the top of my subsection. It's easier to find that way. Anyways, I was able to get get a NecroNet scan from one of the NT Buildings in Houldenbank. One down; three more to go. I would have reported this earlier, but I completely forgot. Whoops.

--The Masked Lurker 07:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I do so enjoy seeing the "static" disappearing across Malton. ;) --Mobius187 13:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

January 11, 2008 - Was hoping to scan three suburbs' worth, but found many of the NT Buildings under attack or already in zombie hands. Will have to come back to them later with Generator and Fuel Can in hand. Maybe in the future, I'll crop the scans and make the images myself, but since I'm not too sure about the process yet, this will will have to do.

--The Masked Lurker 04:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, a shame about those failed scans. You may want to inquire with other members (ones who have a fair number of scans in their total, refer to the Members list) exactly what went wrong. Maybe they can shed some light. I did upload your successful scans for Penny Heights though. Lastly, I'll have to drop by and explain the scan updating process to you. Anything to get me out of posting them myself... ;) --Mobius187 13:21, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, there. When I said "failed" scans, I was being metaphorical. ^_^; Is "metaphorical" even a word? Huh. Never mind. Anyways, I was just playing off of the use of the word "successful". What I described as "failed" scans was a situation where there was no Portable Generator powering the Necrotech Building. No power, so no NecroNet access. No NecroNet access, so no NecroNet scans. No scans, so no success. No success, so a failure. --The Masked Lurker 23:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
There is much hidden meaning in your words. :) --Mobius187 06:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
So i'm actually nearly only necrotechian that goes generator+fuel scavenging before entering the labs? ;) --~~~~ [talk] 12:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah, but why use up AP if you don't have to? Someone else could have already powered up the NT Building. That's what the scouting mission I did was for, to determine the status of the NT Buildings in the suburbs near Penny Heights. --The Masked Lurker 03:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Because I'm extreme enough to go for a mission in a heavily ruined area... Not that it's as easy as it sounds, i sometimes turn out dead x_x --~~~~ [talk] 06:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
You can be killed, but you can't actually die, so that technically rules out being dead. Rather you can be made undead, or to be zombie-politically correct "unliving", or to be generic-brand politically correct, "living impaired". But to stay on-topic, I think we should open up a debate, if one is not already open, to have the Power Stations do the job they were named for... namely to power things rather than just being powered (by portable generators). Down with irony! Up with sensible location usage! More coffee! --Mobius187 12:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

N00bert Scans

Woo! Me first scan. Am I doiin it rite?!..Seriously. lol. --N00bert 20:27, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/01-31-08_1900hrs_PUBLIC/IN_97-0_NT_scan_236-ff3-8e6.html

Also one from Bridgeman cause I noticed it hadn't been updated in a while. --N00bert 04:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
iWitness
I've added both scans and given you credit for them. Now if you wanted to report from Pescodside too, that would help out a lot ;). --Mobius187 11:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Aye Aye Cap'n. But first I tip toed over to Rhodenbank for a quick update:
Wallbutton Building

Starr Building

Waish Building

Inman Building

That's it for today.--N00bert 14:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Good job, I've added your scans and I believe it's time to adjust Pescodside's threat level. IYHO, do you think Pescdoside is "Yellow" or "Green"? Also, I've adjusted the post indenting, or else things will get crazy later on ;) --Mobius187 14:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
It's safe as far as I can tell. Could use some lights though, other than that it's all peachy. So, "green". (Fix my wiki text as you please Lord Mobius. :) )--N00bert 15:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Clewett I swear I'll learn to do it myself one of these days. Anyway.. I just realized "again" that Rolt Heights is NT-less...--N00bert FOX 21:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Crampton Building--N00bert FOX 05:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I've added your scan and signed it for you. --Mobius187 05:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know where to put this so i'll put it in my little section. I am taking an indefinite leave of absence from the battlefield. I will however continue to do the NT scan thing and collect badges before I actually quit playing. So I will be wandering Malton with two characters. N00bert and Measureofzero. I hope this is fine. :) --N00bert FOX 03:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll be sure to include him in your membership entry. Keep up the good work while you can. --Mobius187 04:00, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Harraway Building NT in Chudleyton Sorry.. it's a bit cluttered =/--N00bert F 04:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

No worries. Whenever that happens I simple resize the browser window (I make it thinner/less width), and the map is pushed downwards and into a position where I can see all of it. Thanks for the scan. --Mobius187 17:39, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Three Houldenbank NT facilities:
HoskenBuildingNT

GreatorexBuildingNT

OwsleyBuildingNT

Grigg Heights:

MersonBuildingNT--N00bert F 23:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Your scans have been uploaded. Thanks for contributing to NecroWatch. --Mobius187 18:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Eh, Me forgot to sign me last one. I just did it though.
HarbordBuildingNT in Nixbank.--N00bert F 23:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Done and done. --Mobius187 00:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

HazeldineBuildingNT in South Blythville.--N00bert F 22:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I've added your scan... and kudos on risking your life for a scan. Now go get some medical attention. ;) --Mobius187 12:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

It seems im gonna be risking my life a bit more here soon. Thinking of taking on a daunting task. In the meantime. TribeBuildingNT Final NT in Houldenbank, woot, next 'burb.--N00bert F 19:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Done and done. --Mobius187 21:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Three Crowbank NT's:

MydlehamBuildingNT
DoubtingBuildingNT
SpraggeBuildingNT

Two Brooksville NT's:

CullingBuildingNT
ForemanBuildingNT

Good enough days work I think. --N00bert F 01:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I hate to burst your bubble, but you may want to confirm iWitness records your scans properly. Specifically, for the Spragge and Foreman Buildings. Still, the other 3 scans went off without a hitch. --Mobius187 13:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Bloody hell. <_< My bad.. I did it right this time though..

FlooksBuildingNT in Brooksville. With love --N00bert F 15:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Uhhhh, thanks? Done and done. :) --Mobius187 16:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


theshinysword's scans

I go by cannywizard on the wiki. theshinysword is an alt that I've decided to dedicate to Necrowatch

Greetings cannywizard. I thank you for your interest in contributing to NecroWatch. I have fixed your link, as when you point to external site you do not need to use | (pipe) to separate the link from the text. I did however wish to point out that your scan is being affected by a browser tool you are using. Unfortunately this type of scan image cannot be used, and I really hate how many people's scans get messed up by it. Off the top of my head I'm not sure which tool it is, but at this rate I'll need to find out just so I can advise people how to deal with it. If you have any knowledge of what might be causing it (as it's no doubt installed on your browser), let me know. --Mobius187 17:43, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
It's UDToolbar - http://udtoolbar.mozdev.org/ - I guess can disable it when I take a scan in future --Cannywizard 20:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. If you could just disable it for when you are taking a scan that would be great. I hope this is not too much on an inconvenience for you, as I strive to make this process as easy as possible so as to attract interest in NecroWatch. I'm hoping to avoid complexity and annoyance. If you have any questions, please be sure to inquire further. Also, if you wish to join NecroWatch (to keep track of you scan total and earn ribbon medals) please refer to the Sign-Up section on this wikipage. Thanks again for contributing. --Mobius187 21:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Cannywizard 08:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. I have uploaded your scans and attributed them to you as per policy. Keep up the good work. --Mobius187 17:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Cannywizard 22:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Done and done. --Mobius187 13:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Cannywizard 21:09, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
The scans have been posted. Thanks for your report. --Mobius187 04:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

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