Talk:Peer Reviewed Suggestions/Archive1

Comments

I wouldn't recommend removing the old votes, just edit them or leave them be. The comments in votes are potentially helpful for discussion/implementation concept purposes. Same for moving the discussion of said suggestion to the reviewed page. --Squashua 15:45, 14 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Argh! I hate connected suggestions. Two connected; one won the voting, one lost, and the second refers to the first, which seriously won't make sense if I just move it straight over to Peer Reviewed. Should I edit the suggestion itself to remove the reference or is that verboten? Slicer 01:11, 22 Nov 2005 (GMT)

huh? Diagnosis is an in game skill. is that what your talking about?--Spellbinder 05:55, 22 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Shouldn't suggestions that no longer apply (Like the suggestions regarding Headshot removing XP) be removed from this page? --Hexedian 22:44, 10 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Keep/Total

Make sure to add the #/# Keep/Total to every suggestion moved - use the suggest_notes section for it.

Timestamping this page

Now that this page is organized by subject, I think having a date at the top to tell what the last edit was might be a good idea. It's possible that people edit the suggestions after the daily move (to add Notes), so it seems easiest to know what day the last full move was made. Feel free to remove it if you think I'm being silly. --RSquared 04:39, 26 Nov 2005 (GMT)

I think you're not silly, just clinical. :-) --Squashua 05:11, 26 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Recent Additions

Keep track of what gets added here. Please add ALL Suggestions from a particular day as a single, large edit rather than one at a time.
is this kept up to date, if so there are 3 months of suggestions to check ive done 30 march 1,2,3 april

• Todo: DECEMBER 6th
  • I'm only one person and seemingly the only one doing this - the Dec. 6th Suggestions are waiting because there are 9 of them and one has EIGHTY votes to note through! As follows... --Squashua 19:54, 22 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • That's cuz you're insane - I bet you'd vote for my revision of the suggestions page. In fact, I think I'll put it up for voting tomorrow. :P --RSquared 19:57, 22 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Try doing them three at a time and strike them out on the to do list when done, then delete the whole lot from the to do list when you have done them all. --Grim s 12:59, 27 Dec 2005 (GMT)

I'm not sure I'm understanding this. I added Crucifix Use #whatever. Do I put it on this list on the same place I... hmm.. brain's broken. -- Amazing 06:27, 6 Jan 2006 (GMT)

• • Zombie Power - 19/22
  • Brain Boil - 12/16
  • Tactical Information at Forts - 18/19
  • Emotional Atrophy and Ignore Pain - 70/84
  • Skeletal Ribs - 23/27
  • Tough as Leather - 17/21
  • Window Puncher - 22/27
  • Ransack - 34/40
  • Less is More - 12/14
• Added --Squashua 15:46, 23 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Wound - renamed from Wound Skill
  • Well-Preserved
  • Construction Levels - renamed
• Added --Squashua 19:39, 22 Dec 2005 (GMT) Graveyard Day!
  • Graveyard Feeding
  • Graveyard Spawning
  • Show Current/Max HP
  • Subway Tunnels - Placeholder Only, see Dec. 14th
  • Renamed some Suggestions for Readability
  • Howl - moved to Implemented
• Added --Squashua 17:19, 20 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Increased XP cost for Advanced Skills
  • Syringe Notifications - renamed from Syringe notification for Brain Rotters
• Added (multiple days) --Squashua 16:34, 19 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Innate Class Abilities - added link in Zombie Class section
  • Advanced Zombie Skill Trees - Mutations -renamed from Mutations
  • Last Seen Before Lights Out
  • Lit Buildings Visible from Distance
  • Today's Exhibit
  • Howl
  • Slam Barricades
  • Profile Link to Affiliated Group
  • Warning when Purchasing Brain Rot
  • Mobile Phone Status
• Added --Squashua 15:21, 16 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Use Emptiest Firearm First
  • Zombies get Bonus XP for killing a Zombie Hunter
  • Advanced Knife Training
  • Mutation - Ghouls Added Ghouls to distinguish from other suggestions
• Added --Squashua 16:41, 15 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Access Items as Zombie was "Multi-side Items"
  • Barricade Queue
  • Enhanced Scent
  • Winter Season
• Added --Squashua 16:56, 14 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Beckon
  • Show Only Number of Survivors upon Entering
  • Free Speech
  • Money
• Added --Squashua 04:18, 13 Dec 2005 (GMT) Zombie Skill Day!
  • Aberration/Monstrous Form - Placed together under Zombie Class
  • Fort Overhaul
  • Dead Flesh
  • Preserved Ligaments
  • Sense Prey - Removed version comment
• Added --Squashua 03:29, 12 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Zombie Hand Attack Accuracy Revision
  • Show Destroy Barricades / Generator
• Added --Squashua 03:06, 12 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Windows -was already added
  • Spray Can - revised name to add purpose of suggestion: Amount of Paint Left
• Added --Squashua 05:20, 10 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Signature Weapon - Zombie Hunter Skill
• Added --Squashua 15:46, 9 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Identifying zombies allows you to select them individually
  • How many Corpses are Brainrotted
  • Prefixes
  • Contacts in the same square as you are highlighted
• Added --Squashua 15:47, 8 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Alarm Systems
• Added --Squashua 17:43, 7 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Contact Categories
  • Redistribute Ammunition
  • Store Dropdown in Mall
  • Yet Another SMG
• Added --Squashua 15:21, 6 Dec 2005 (GMT)
  • Powered Buildings Search
  • Multiple Tower Floors
  • Report to Authority
  • Dual Wield
  • IP Limit Tracker
  • Multiple Item Drop
  • Mobile Phone Text Messaging

Implementation Page

Hey, seeing as how the peer reviewed suggestion "Howl" was just implemented as feeding groan, and kevin specifically said "Howl" was good model in its section, how bout we create an "Implemented Suggestions" for suggestions that got entered into the game. --Stare 18:48, 22 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Done. --Squashua 19:36, 22 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Where? --JonRock 20:55, 24 June 2006 (BST)

Well, it seems that radios are now in the game. I found two suggestions for radios that passed review and perhaps it is time for them to be moved over to "Implemented Suggesions" - Building Radio Communication, Radios for Group Communications --Darkstar949 23:44, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Watches

This isn't one of mine, but I am in love with it so I ask you.. Approved or no? http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Suggestions/23rd-Dec-2005#Watches

-- Amazing 00:15, 16 Jan 2006 (GMT)

It's almost unanimous, so I expect that it's passed. -- Odd Starter ^{talk | Mod} 00:17, 16 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Cool. I'll add "Watches" to Peer Approved. I am so crap with Math and percentages that it isn't even funny. It's just pathetic. -- Amazing 02:20, 16 Jan 2006 (GMT)

I'm Lazy

I've got a life out side of this thing, so I've stopped checking for the last month at least. You guys are going to have to move these on your own. Easiest way to do it is to make sure that the suggestion "passed". After two weeks from it's initial date, count the number of Keeps and count the Total number of Votes (Keeps, Spams, Kills). Divide the Keeps by the Total number of Votes. If the result is .666 or higher, place it in the Peer Reviewed. If the result is .50 or higher, place it in the Undecided. Otherwise, unless you have all the time in the world, I just don't bother putting it in Rejected. --Squashua 16:52, 16 Jan 2006 (GMT)

If I did my math right, Graffiti Artistry got 1.625 - Added. Zombie Skill Cost change passed too, I think. -- Amazing 03:41, 18 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Err, not quite. by this system, /nothing/ should get over one. Remember, Keeps divided by Total votes, not the other way around. You'll know you're doing it right when the number is below 1. Graffiti Artistry, as a note, should be about .615, so it should be going into Undecided. -- Odd Starter ^{talk | Mod} 04:26, 18 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Told you I was bad with math.. :X I'll pop it right back into Undecided. This is why I asked, becuase I figured.. I'm putting my own suggestions in, and it sucks to be called on putting your own up when it's wrong. heh... -- Amazing 06:41, 18 Jan 2006 (GMT)

You did your math wrong. And please; if you're going to spend the time to put YOUR suggestion in, do the right thing and grab all the others from that day as well. --Squashua 19:32, 18 Jan 2006 (GMT)

How about No? Sorry, I don't have the time to look out for everyone else. Especially when there's so much to wade through. I barely find my own suggestions in the sea of entries. -- Amazing 03:59, 26 Jan 2006 (GMT)

• Are there any people dedicated to doing this, or is it just whoever is motivated at the time? I noticed Squashua was handling the bulk of it before. I wouldn't mind helping when I have spare time, but I am not certain on the procedures (I reviewed the place where it tells you how to move suggestions to their places after voting, but it tells you to hit edit - and there is no edit button available on suggestions after voting closes = is the main reason I am stumped on this).

Also along those lines, would it be outrageous for the person who's suggestion it is to be required to move their own suggestion to Peer Reviewed? That would eliminate the need for someone to be doing this full time (since Squashua has found new and I'm sure much better things to do with his time :), nothing has been getting moved aside from a few people moving their own suggestions anyways). --Blahblahblah 22:04, 24 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Removing certain suggestions

I was thinking mabey we should remove some of the suggestions that are no longer valid to another page. For example "Show Destroy Barricades/ Generator" is not in the implemented section but it's in the game. So if I get the green light with this idea I wouldn't mind sorting through all of these. - Jedaz 14:11, 10 April 2006 (BST)

Just thought I would clarify that they would go to a different page... but this doesn't look like this talk page being looked at so I might as well go ahead with it, well if I 7 days time I don't get any objections I'll start the project - Jedaz 11:21, 14 April 2006 (BST)

Do you mean moving all implemented suggestions to new page? If so, then yes, seems reasonable. I see no reason to keep them lingering here. Although you might want to take this to Talk:Suggestions --Brizth ^W! 12:45, 14 April 2006 (BST)

Well I was talking about the "Show Destroy Barricades/ Generator" kinds of suggestions, they alredy implemented in the game. That suggestion says to show who destroyed the Generator. Now I look at it, it's a bad example. Umm.... lets see, DNA extraction gives information on previously scanned zombies, this suggestion suggests that when a player uses a DNA extractor on an already extracted zombie they get information anyway, in addition to message telling them it has been scanned. So as you can see it's pointless to have it clogging up the page Peer Reviewed Suggestions page. - Jedaz 15:29, 14 April 2006 (BST)

isnt that what Implemented_Suggestions is for, i think its a good thing to have to show that these ideas do make it into the game.

Hmm.... I don't think what I'm trying to say is getting across... I'm not saying get rid of the implemented suggestions section. Hmm... I don't know how to explain it, oh well it doesn't realy bother me - Jedaz 07:52, 20 April 2006 (BST)

Different setup

I changed the setup of this page slightly. I moved the section onto their own pages and just had a summery under each of what ideas are in them. I left the implemented ones on this page just because I thought that would be the way to go. Someone can move them to their own page if they realy want to. - Jedaz 06:21, 6 May 2006 (BST)

New Idea: Vote on the top five suggestions you want to see in the game

How about you can vote on which suggestions you want to make into the game? Then we can let good ol' Kevan know what we want to see. Also, a list with the "Top 5 (or 10) suggestions" to make it easier for kevan to see what we want (as an alternative to wading through all of these pages). Mattiator 00:27, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Thats not to bad of an idea. But how do you purpose we do it all? There are over 160 suggestions here and counting. Lets first get all of the peer accepted suggestions onto this page first and then we can deal with it later I reckon. But for now I don't think it's realy worth even trying because we have such a backlog that it wouldn't relay be fair on all of the suggestions. Also as a note this would get more views if you went and had this on the main suggestions talk page. - Jedaz 13:57, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Peer reviewed is TOO large

We have 190+ suggestions in peer reviewed or so at a rough esitmate. Now if I was Kevan I wouldn't even attempt to search through them all to find good ones. It is imposiable to actualy re-vote on all of the suggestions. It's unfair if we just remove suggestions from the list. So what I purpose we do is this, we have a voting system where by we purpose the removal of a suggestion on some grounds such as it's no longer valid ect.

So I'll flesh out the details, and if no one comes along and trys to help then I'm going to create a vote thing on here and make it so that this will be "accepted" as there are no guidelines for how votes are carried out and what not. And as it will be a "democratic" vote then it can not be disputed by anyone realy. The only reason that I'm posting it here is because the Suggestions talk page is WAAAAAYYY to long for my computer to handle well. So in short I'll make a policy from hell which will have to be enforced unless people comment (ok well I probably won't but you get the idea). - Jedaz 10:03, 1 June 2006 (BST)

I agree thats it's too long, to be honest I think it's safe to scrap three-quarters of the current peer reviewed. Perhaps it's better to make a peer-reviewed peer review. by grading them and listing the top 10 to 25 % somewhere. So that people's "achievement" doesn't get removed and that kevan doesn't need to slosh through a ever increasing sea of mediocre suggestions I'd ask kevan how his views are on the subject though. If he doesn't care or doesn't use the pages anymore I doubt it'll weight up to all the drama. --Vista 12:09, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Well this is what I reckon we should do to trim it down. Removed suggestions just go to a different page all together (maybe split them up who knows) and the reinstatement is so people have a way of disputing the removed suggestions. I've also made it a low limit for votes as most people won't care, but we will need to get more people interested in this before it'll work...

1. Nomination for removal/reinstatement

   The nomination must include:

   1. A link to suggestion in question.
   2. The reason for removal/reinstatement.
   3. Your signiture and timestamp.
   4. Placed under a seperate headding under Talk:Peer_Reviewed_Suggestions.
   5. Purposals for each suggestion may only be made once every two months.

2. The democratic process

   The following applys to opening, closing and during voting of the purposed removal/reinstatement:

   1. Voting will be open for a period of one week.
   2. There are two kinds of votes, Remove and Keep.
   3. A miniumum of 5 Remove votes are needed to remove a suggestion. Additionally; 2/3 (two-thirds) of all votes must be a Remove vote for a Proposal to be successful.
   4. A miniumum of 5 Keep votes are needed to reinstate a suggestion. Additionally; 2/3 (two-thirds) of all votes must be a Keep vote for a Proposal to be successful.

3. Removal/Reinstatement

   The following applys for successful proposals:

   1. The suggestion will be moved to it's respective page once voting has ended.

- Jedaz 13:01, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Actualy I've been doing some thinking. One, we could just remove the miniumum vote requirement, and second we should ask Kevan about how useful he finds this page ect. So I'll go and ask him and see if he can answer a few questions so we can try and optimise it for him. - Jedaz 07:26, 2 June 2006 (BST)

Ok, got a comment from Kevan. More or less what we should do is rename the suggestions so they are a bit more meaning full so he can just skim over it. So we need a team to get onto this... probably the best way is to have it's original name just after it's "new" name. That way when moving suggestions I don't get too confused as to whats moved and what hasn't. So I'm going to start on that right now! - Jedaz 08:45, 2 June 2006 (BST)

OMG, only 3 votes!?!?!?

I just had to share this because I find it amazing that theres a suggestion in peer reviewed that has ONLY 3 VOTES!!!! Here are the links this and this, I find it just so amazing that this passed and it only had 3 votes on it... - Jedaz 06:43, 13 June 2006 (BST)

Not a bad idea, but it certainly seems… odd for such a low number of votes. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:49, 13 June 2006 (BST)

Yeah I know, I geuss it must have been cycled off fairly soon after it was submitted and no one really bothered to check the previous days so it ended up with so few votes by my guess. - Jedaz 06:51, 13 June 2006 (BST)

Could also be that some of the other votes got wiped when the next suggestion was put up. Sundays are slow to begin with as well.--Vista 08:02, 13 June 2006 (BST)

Nope, doesn't look like the votes were wiped. I checked at the end of the suggestion and it had the appropiate tags and what not so I don't think it would be that. I geuss it must have just been a mix of being moved quickly and it being a Sunday. Oh well you get that I geuss. - Jedaz 08:30, 13 June 2006 (BST)

Guys, actually that suggestion made me realize of something: suggestions can get removed from the main suggestion page minutes after they're posted (example: i post my suggestion X today at 23:45, moderator goes to suggestion Page at 00:10 of the next day and moves all the suggestions to the Previous days suggestions). While on theory people can still vote on them while they're on the "Previous days suggestions" page, not many do so (actually, pretty much no one). I suggest some rule change to be made, to make new suggestions stay in the main suggestions page for 2 days instead of 1 as it is now. Is that, or making posting suggestions only possible from 00:00 to 12:00 (or something like that), but that could be unfair for some people that can't be online at the time. --Matthew Fahrenheit 02:05, 16 June 2006 (BST)

Nah, it's not really an issue any more. Mainly because the people moving the suggestions (aka me now, it use to be Grim) leave the suggestions on the page for a few hours. So they usually get moved some time between 4 and 12ish on most occasions. So it's not really something that needs to be changed at this point in time. - Jedaz 05:09, 18 June 2006 (BST)

It's ok, but maybe some day its convenient to make it formal (s a rule). BTW, there isn't a rule that says that a suggestion has to have at least 20 votes to go to Peer Reviewed? --Matthew Fahrenheit 05:28, 18 June 2006 (BST)

Nope, theres no rule saying that there needs to be a minimum 20 votes as far as I know. It would be a really stupid rule as well I reckon because in the early months quite a few suggestions only got about 10 votes or so on them. Anyway I don't think we should make it formal, we don't need to have everything set in stone to run this wiki. - Jedaz 05:33, 18 June 2006 (BST)

Reformat Mission

I'm currently going through the Peer Reviewed section and tidying it up, to do the following:

• Add a line between each suggestion (on the sub-pages) for readability.
• Check that each suggestion is in the correct category (as some aren't).
• Check to see if a suggestion belongs on the 20 Most Recent List (as it seems wrong).
• Add Keep/Total to those suggestions that are missing it.
• Due to a mixture of alphabetical and date ordering in sub-sections, I'm re-organising it by date, newest at the bottom of each sub-section. (You can see how far I've got in my mission by which section has the new list format.)
  • Any advice / constructive criticism welcome.

--Funt Solo 10:36, 9 October 2006 (BST)

I've had a look and I've noticed that there are a few days in August that haven't completly been moved. However if people just insert them into their correct positions when they are finally move then it shouldn't be an issue. I'm not sure of the exact days but I know there are a few. Anyway keep up the good work people, I'm glad to see that there are quite a few people working on this project of moving suggestions and maintaining the system. - Jedaz - 07:23/25/04/2024 06:38, 10 October 2006 (BST)

I'm picking up a few missed suggestions from August now. However, I'm listing them as new, as this page is ordered by "left queue" date, not suggestion date. They're new to this page. --Funt Solo 19:36, 10 October 2006 (BST)

August completed. --Funt Solo 20:50, 10 October 2006 (BST)