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Concluding

Ladys and Gentleman I speak here in behalf of my group. It was lot of fun a great honour to talk, kill and discuss with fine people like yourself. While up to this moment quite a few kills got posted, we all know that those only represent the tip of the iceberg. Though life and unlife in malton still goes on we splashed some waves and broke some porcelain. I claim pk-day a success. If not for me meeting great folks like you, Maltons true elite. Sadly, for our Group the event was overshadowed by some kind of power game from a cdf member. We still have to resolve this issue with Kevan, but it looks like not all players are equal in Malton. If the outcome is clear we will tell you more because i think it is quite interesting stuff. However, back to the good things; we thank you all for killing the great number of survivors and non-descripts that look like zombies and thus making Pk-day what it was. Despite the fun I think we all learned something about Pking, stupid survivors, games and morals and how good it can feel when you have someone out there that understands you. Thank you all!


PS: We rounded up some ideas for other Pker events and games and if you enjoyed pk-day, get bored in Malton or just want to stay in touch with your fellow Pkers then this could be something for you. Just look at the Pk-day page from time to time to get some updates or start your own events. --PatheticBill 00:38, 7 June 2006 (BST)

So is this PK-Day -page gonna stick as THE meeting place, or..? Also I was thinking, there should be policy of somekind about killing anyone that you see spamming useless shit in Radio on 26.66 MHz or some other frequency? I would make a template about it, but I have no idea for an image. Also I'm rather sure that it would be counted as PKing and as so "illegal". --Niilomaan 17:49, 7 June 2006 (BST)
We could also make a new wiki page..?! the pk-day page would need somekind of cleaning and new organisation...
..but anyway i like the radio thing of yours. Perhaps some vintage portable radio as an image. --PatheticBill 23:41, 7 June 2006 (BST)
The new page would be great. It could even be a category of PKing. That way anything related could be linked there. Groups, events, templates... Any name suggestions? And this one DOES need some cleaning.
For the radio, I was thinking about picture of a WW2 military radio with some blood on it. Anyone intrested in making? Blood can be just photoshopped, IF you don't happent to have the radio yourself. --Niilomaan 10:52, 8 June 2006 (BST)
I tought about some wiki page as a portal to pk-events. But no catchy name occured to me. And i think i could do this radio-picture-thing but i´m currently short on spare time. --PatheticBill 17:27, 14 June 2006 (BST)
Can't you just go with Category:PKer or something like that? Well... If we need a real name, then.. Category:PKer Union, Category:Public Slaughter, Category:Murder Pit, Category:Assassins Guild... Just figure it out. I can't seem to come out with any nice names today. Also I'm currently busy with tons of stuff outside the wiki, but also with our GCM Summer Tour. --Niilomaan 19:27, 14 June 2006 (BST)
The Alphabet Game Page is in a progress. Soon a Pk-Portal page will follow. --Pathetic BiII 23:09, 18 June 2006 (BST)
The Alphabet Game is now ready to play. --Pathetic BiII 15:39, 21 June 2006 (BST)

Enlist/Support

  • I can almost guarantee that the Brotherhood will be joining the festivities on June 6th. This sounds great, and I hope a lot more people join in. --D4rk N00b 00:48, 7 May 2006 (BST)
  • You got support from my PKer, and I'll pass the word onto my chums ;) --SirensT RR 02:21, 7 May 2006 (BST)
  • The End will definatley be in on the killings - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Phish Dude (talkcontribs) . He only signed his name. You should link it and timestamp it too.
  • I will totally saddle up the PKony for a ride around this city. -Banana¯\(o_º)/¯Bear 04:34, 8 May 2006 (BST)
  • Great idea! I'm going to save shotgun shells to be able to kill as many people as possible on that day. I'll ask my fellow BoSs group members to join in this initiative as well. Z-man 23:00, 8 May 2006 (CET)
  • This sounds fun. Sure I'm in. --Tokujin 08:25, 9 May 2006 (BST)
  • The Philosophe Knights approve of this whole-heartedly. I'm currently being hounded by some guy who, by sheer chance, has been as yet unable to finish me off. If I can kill him before he kills me, I'm fairly certain I'll be up and ready for carnage on 6/6/6. If not, then... well, kill an extra innocent ignorant for me ;) --Wifey 06:56, 10 May 2006 (BST)
  • I might just saddle up for a quick ride around the city myself. I grow weary of killing those poor innocent zombies. What did they ever do to us? MaulMachine
  • If I have any human skills by 6/6/6, I'm totally there.--Morzas 06:49, 12 May 2006 (BST)
  • I love PKers, but I promised not to be one. Although... that day is only once in 100 years and it's most unlikely that I ever live to see it again... So I'll be terrorising Pennville the best I can! Have fun! --Niilomaan 09:51, 13 May 2006 (BST)
  • I might just saddle up for a quick ride around the city myself. I grow weary of killing those poor innocent zombies. What did they ever do to us? MaulMachine U! 22:10, 13 May 2006 (BST)
  • I, Teia of the DOA will do my part to free every soul I can of the sins of life on the day of PKing. That does however, require I am cursed with the burden of life beforehand --TeiaDOA 02:34, 25 May 2006 (BST)
  • The newly formed Patriots will be helping. It'll be an organization of PKers an groups. Sonny Corleone WTF 21:56, 4 June 2006 (BST)
  • Turban Dead will be giving full support to the action where non-descripts are concerned (they're no better than zombies anyhow) --Lanroth 23:34, 4 June 2006 (BST)
  • Stuff it, since I got combat revived I'll give it my best. Doesn't matter if I die, 'cause then I'll just be back to eating the poor harman folk like a proper zombie should. –Xoid STFU! 15:11, 5 June 2006 (BST)
  • I only wish I had enough personalities to do this day justice! A day like this will never come again! --SillyLillyPilly 21:41, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Thank you for your fast acceptance. It is about time for people like us to get to know each other and have some good time together. --PatheticBill 22:24, 7 May 2006 (BST)

Talk

Spread the word! If you have a spray can and some spare AP, bomb the city, let the people now what is coming: 6/6/6 is PK-DAY - see wiki for details --Pathetic BiII 23:15, 8 May 2006 (BST)

I'm curious, what happens, if by mere chance, that the PKers manage to wipe each other out and have no effect on the rest of the survivor population? (Yes, it is 'nigh on impossible, but stranger things have happened.) –Xoid STFU! 14:35, 8 May 2006 (BST)

Nothing happens, pk is pk - mission accomplished. I guess it's possibly to avoid killing each other. --Trenchcoat 17:57, 8 May 2006 (BST) (not a PK'er but Pk-day sounds fun)

Wouldn't it be better if the date Pk-day was listed as being on was "6/6/6"? It comes closer to what you where trying to achieve, and cannot be considered ambiguous outside of the fact that there is no timezone specified. (Which Pk-day is also currently lacking.) –Xoid STFU! 08:31, 9 May 2006 (BST)

You´re right xoid. I´ll change it.
I thought BST as timezone was obvious as it is the standard in Malton and I didn´t want to support killing in other towns. But I don´t mind a few hours difference - it´s the spirit that counts. If someone feels different on this matter, just put some timezone specifications on the article. --PatheticBill 13:21, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Since you said you change it, but haven't got around to it, I'll take the liberty of doing it for you.
About the timezones… I was just thinking along the lines adding (BST) to it, so that people don't go killing on the 5th BST, because they're hours behind. Or alternatively on the 7th BST, cause they're hours ahead. It'll help to make the 6/6/6 bloodier, and may temporarily overtax the various bounty hunters. Of course, it could always create more. Supply and demand 'n' all that jazz. But PKers don't care one way or the other, right? –Xoid STFU! 14:05, 9 May 2006 (BST)
good work on the template Xoid. --Pathetic BiII 23:31, 9 May 2006 (BST)

PK Day? I don't even have to ask. Know that all PKing taking place in CDF Territory WILL NOT be legal, and will be considered a hostile action against the Survivor cause, in turn getting the person hunted down and most likely ruining that characters playability in our region. We are outnumbered already, and revive costs are up. This is an incredibly stupid idea. CowboyUp 15:59, 6 May 2006 (BST)

Do you really think the PKers will care? They'll kill if it's legal or not. --SirensT RR 02:21, 7 May 2006 (BST)
Besides, if they get put on your blacklist Cowboy, then they may aswell join up with us, the Creedy Guerilla Raiders. BTW We'll be all over PKday! --User:Franz Molotov

The DHPD will continue to oppose PKing activities. Any PKers committing any of the offenses listed herewill have warrents issued and executed. Paradox244 7:25, May 21 2006 (EST)

People are propably wandering about why we would go with this? Why would we killl fellow survivors instead of those ugly evil zombies. I say the answer is right here. Support our cause by supporting that template. Make the dream of peacefull world come true! --Niilomaan 09:16, 22 May 2006 (BST)

Ah, that should be spelled "sympathizer". --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 00:39, 23 May 2006 (BST)
That's weird. I checked the spelling twice. Well that didn't prevent me from typoing it. Thanks. I guess I'll just change the text in old one and create new one to go with it.. --Niilomaan 07:38, 23 May 2006 (BST)

Since the talk has been quiet lately, I was just wondering, is there any kinda PKer guild or community other than this one? It would be kinda sweet if this would start an organised movement under single banner. That way PKers could form real resistance instead of hiding all the time. Unity brings strength -> strength brings more murder. (I got this idea from the suggestions page, where any PKer supporting suggestion gets spamminated.) --Niilomaan 00:10, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Wait a minute... Im wondering - what if this PK day goes completely out of control? Then what? We have people mass PK'ing for 2 and a half weeks, until they cant find any survivors, because all of them are dead? Then we've got scraps of "Civilization" left in the city, with thousands of zombies eating each other whilst praying for revives? I dunno, im not in on this whole Idea. Good luck with it though, if anything, im going idle a few days before this whole fiasco. ralphwiggum 9:49 EST, 27 may, 2006

Meh. If it gets that bad, then Kevan will probably up the syringe rate. –Xoid STFU! 14:52, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Bad? What do you mean "bad"? This whole "zombie kills survivor -> survivor turns to zombie -> survivor revives zombie -> survivor kills zombie" -thing is getting old. It's time to spice things up a little bit. --Niilomaan 15:36, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Bad as in, "Well Niiloman, we are the last two survivors in the game!" bad. If it got to that stage, Kevan would up the syringe rate. Just like a zombie apocalypse is no fun without zombies, it's no fun without survivors. He'd never let it get to that stage though. –Xoid STFU! 15:47, 27 May 2006 (BST)
...and also a very unlikely scenario. PKer and PKLovers are an exclusive brand of players and as much as I like the idea of a killing frenzy, we will never be the cause of a total obliteration of all survivors. --Pathetic BiII 16:43, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Thanks BiII, you succinctly made the point I was trying to but failed. (Well, actually, I sorta got bogged down in the reasons why regardless of how improbable the scenario is, that it was impossible because Kevan would intervene.) –Xoid STFU! 16:49, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Yep. Does that mean that you wouldn't oppose Player Killers Guild? This is one of those games that guilds would fit in nicely. --Niilomaan 17:51, 27 May 2006 (BST)

I don’t think PK’ers need a guild in the regular sense of the word. There are so many beautiful PK-themes out there that a guild would be more constricting than supporting. PK’ers are individualists, even while sometimes being organized in groups. But however PK’ers perhaps could need a forum or a place to debate, to exchange information, to get to know each other better or simply to brag about the things they done and get some attention and support. An action or a kill that can be shared with others who are into the same thing is much more fun, than doing it in secrecy and without being noticed by the grey masses. We, the Bills try to archive such a thing through collaborative events, like the PK-day, where every PK’er can participate, but does not get too overtly restrained while taking part. The Pk-day is a test run for a series of events from Pk’ers for Pk’ers to develop a kind of PK- community. We need no ordinance, we need no masters; we need fun, two barrels full of fun! --Pathetic BiII 19:14, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Well that's pretty much what I was thinking, but I also thought about minor control. Something to prevent them from turning to each other and possible allow them to build major attacks on single large group. Like some kind of underground alliance. Community for sure. (Myself I'm on a gray area. Not a sith, but surely no jedi.) --Niilomaan 20:06, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Pk'er radio frequency: 26.66 MHz Lets talk about killing! --Pathetic BiII 22:16, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Announce on all frequencies that the Pk-day is near. --BillBill 22:28, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Set an "How do i kill" on the frontpage. To get more people into pking. I was a bit in a rush and i would appreciate if anyone would look after grammar and stuff. --PatheticBill 14:24, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Damn man, you deserve a medal for elegantly dismissing all the bullshit that so many Anti-PKers spout. Regardless, I still spellchecked it, ;-) –Xoid STFU! 14:45, 4 June 2006 (BST)


Well.. It was fun.. Let's do it again on next 06/06/06! --Niilomaan 01:30, 6 June 2006 (BST)

What? In 2106? I seriously doubt any of us will still be alive by then. –Xoid STFU! 05:06, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Your powers are weak, old man. --Niilomaan 09:20, 6 June 2006 (BST)

I just went on several killing sprees with two of my characters, killed too many to remember any of their names. Thanks bill, for your contribution to the PK community! Let’s do this again sometime! --CarryTheRedFlag 10:48, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Just for fun i saved the pk-day radio broadcast on 26.66 in my wiki profile. It beginns at zero hour and ends around 22h --PatheticBill 22:32, 6 June 2006 (BST)

The legality of PKing

"...and remember kids: Killing on PK-day is legal!"

This is misleading and untrue. We will most certainly still be accepting PK reports on the 6th of June. Anyone participating in this risks having a bounty put on their heads. This statement should be removed from the article, or an appropriate disclaimer placed on the page. --Gilant talk|DEM 17:12, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Because, apparently, there are large numbers of extremely low-functioning retards on this wiki who'd need to have this spelled out for them. They're people too, damnit! --Jimbo Bob ASS 20:55, 9 May 2006 (BST)

Of course we deal here with sarcasm. And i don´t want to be pedantic but Pking is never illegal. The only rules of the game are those proclaimed and enforced by kevan. Like Zerging and Cheating which indeed are illegal. There is even an xp reward for pking! There is simply no serious jurisdical system in-game that could make claims for things to be legal or illegal. You can put somone on one of the dubious bountyhunter lists but what the f*ck should anybody care - here now I have put you on my personal bounty list. But just relax! Bounty Hunters are invited too. Just Pk someone from someones list on 6/6/6 as you usally do and post the kill here. --PatheticBill 22:06, 9 May 2006 (BST)

It is scary that someone thinks he is the law and make the rules, put up some lists and decided what is good and what is wrong. Enforcing your moral standards on others, that is the true crime here. --Pathetic BiII 23:22, 9 May 2006 (BST)

lol - It's hardly a moral standard, as there is no real injury inflicted either way. But the vast majority of those who play survivors find getting PKed a real pain in the ass and a distraction from what they really want to do in the game - fight zombies! So we try to find ways to discourage that. Out of game I've made friends with some of the most notorious PKers in Malton. That just depends on whether you are are jerk or not. Of course, most PKers are by nature, but WTH! :P And please note, I also did not say PKing would be 'illegal' - you choose to use that term. My point is just that I wouldn't want some newb being mislead into thinking there might be no, or less, negative consequences for PKing that day. If it makes you feel studly to gun down other players, that's your business. --Gilant talk|DEM 23:40, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Why is it no moral standard when nobody gets hurt? (…) Morality, in the strictest sense of the word, deals with that which is regarded as right or wrong. By discouraging others you enforce your moral standard of what is right and what is wrong. The game rules don’t forbid PKing, in discouraging you try to establish a rule. But WTH, I think you are an OK guy and add a realistic flavour to the game, because people in an apocalypse would try to enforce some standard moral rules (like not killing people).We try to encourage people in RPing the other side, the maniacs, the outlaws and unconvincables and if it makes you feel studly to go vigilante justice on other players, that's your business! --Pathetic BiII 00:24, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Understand this. People may say anything they will, but all surivour groups are against this idea and believe that it is stupid. Any and all Pking will still get you bounties and still get you hunted and blacklisted by angry survivors, PK at your own peril.--Agent White 16:38, 10 May 2006 (EST)

Duly Noted. Blacklist away angry survivor! BTW it is odd that you can speak for ALL survivor groups, are you somekind of hive-mind or an offical spokesman? --Pathetic BiII 22:29, 10 May 2006 (BST)
Hehehe, he must be! It is exactly what all the trenchies say before, while and after someone gutted them good and proper. Maybe he is the almighty survivor-trench-coat-group ambassador.--Pathetic Bill 22:53, 10 May 2006 (BST)


I hate to say it, but I think some sort of disclaimer should be put on the page, at the very least saying some groups don't have a pulse and will still "punish" PKing as normal. Most PKers should be aware of this, but as evidence shows, some people just don't understand. Ironically, most of them aren't PKers. :P --SirensT RR 02:20, 11 May 2006 (BST)

We do not need a disclaimer, because the anti-pk lobby is big enough that everybody gets their message by now. They can put extra big signs in flashy colours on their own pages. Did we put disclaimers on their wikis that PKing is not against the rules of the game and the consequences are only because of people that do not approve of such actions? NO, we didn't. --Pathetic BiII 02:38, 11 May 2006 (BST)
*shrug* In that case, I recommend a big, bold flashy sign saying "We don't give a flying f*** what anti-PK groups think" or something along those lines. --SirensT RR 03:30, 11 May 2006 (BST)
Maybe a picture. I could make one in paint for you! --ramby T--W! - SGP 03:40, 11 May 2006 (BST)
Some people just don't get it. A disclaimer is entirely unnecessary. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is not going to be supported by those that are likely to suffer. It is just plain common sense; you piss someone off, they they might retaliate. People who get really pissed off can either call in favours or ask/beg/bribe someone to avenge them — which is essentially what bounty hunting is. –Xoid STFU! 07:00, 11 May 2006 (BST)
I hold a firm belief that there are people out there who are so dense you need to paint a picture on their eye before the get what you are talking about --ramby T--W! - SGP 07:04, 11 May 2006 (BST)
So true. So very true. That raises the question though, should you make the image ostentatious so they can't miss it, or try and make it fit in with the page despite the likelihood of the anti-pks still whining? –Xoid STFU! 13:30, 11 May 2006 (BST)
Drop over to my talk page and we will work something out. Mind you I only have paint so it must be simple. --ramby T--W! - SGP 16:42, 11 May 2006 (BST)

Remember, we are not a welfare organisation. We do not help mental underprivileged people. In my opinion disclaimers are there for legal reasons only. Stupid people do not read or notice disclaimers, because they are …stupid. People who use common sense do not need a disclaimer. My suggestion for decal information on the main page would be: This is no f**king forum! We support common sense! --Pathetic BiII 19:39, 11 May 2006 (BST)

For all above mentioned reasons by xoid an my alter egos I don´t think we need a disclaimer, but if some of the pk-groups will feel better with a disclaimer i personal have no objections. But 6/6/6 should be an pker event, organized, celebrated, and performed by pkers. So only we should decide whether there will be some sort of disclaimer or not. --PatheticBill 20:36, 11 May 2006 (BST)

Straight up, you can't say it's illegal, but you can't say it's legal either. Either one of those statements implies you're in a position to dictate/relate the law, which no one here is. All we've got is one person's word against another's, one group against the other. You can call it legal if you want, but I will hunt down and repeatedly murderize anyone who PK's may on this auspicious day. My only rule is mess with me at your own peril, and you can only take that for what it's worth; the word of one man with two dozen guns. --Burgan 21:25, 29 May 2006 (BST)

You´re very much invited to do so. But it would be very kind of you if you would try to kill me, or some other guy, directly on June the 6th and post your kill on the front page. It would be a waste to not put so much guns to a good use. --PatheticBill 22:17, 29 May 2006 (BST)
Hey, anyone want to do mexican standoffs then? I'm not so hot on just pking those who don't want to be, but we could get some fun showdown action in if anybody wants. --Burgan 19:29, 31 May 2006 (BST)
An mexican standoff! Hmm, thats a nice theme. Here is my suggestion, on Pk-day you go into a mall and announce that you want a Deathmatch. Trust me someone will battle with you. Best Deathmatch Arena is Caiger Mall aka PKaiger. --Pathetic BiII 15:33, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Well, no one answered my call, and I sounded it a few times in Giddings. Sadly, no kills for you guys. Whoever made that deathmatch template, if you made another one just supporting graveyards I would be thrilled and use it. I might still, but I like the idea of a deathmatch arena. --Burgan 05:59, 8 June 2006 (BST)
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SPAM

It's obvious you don't run any hospitals, but i'm suposed to hit random page then post this.

Attention usergroup, Malton Hospitals Group needs your help. If your running a hospital, please notify us as soon as it's on our list of hospitals. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Labine50 (talkcontribs) How odd: 05:02, 16 May 2006 (BST) he added a timestamp but no name.

So, basically, this guy just decided he'd randomly advertise for his group all over the wiki?--Wifey 06:07, 24 May 2006 (BST)
Looks like. Doesn't really seem to be the sharpest knife in the corpse, does he? --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 06:47, 24 May 2006 (BST)
From what I've seen, Labine50 is generally oblivious to the faux pas he makes. –Xoid STFU! 09:24, 24 May 2006 (BST)
Both here and on the Suggestions page... --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 09:29, 24 May 2006 (BST)

It's like a semi-sentient spambot...MaulMachine U! 01:15, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Meh, he's been improving, but semi-sentient does seem an apt description. Either that or he is just inheritly clueless. –Xoid STFU! 01:19, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Kill list

I want to see who died on this day. Everyone who takes part is welcome to post their kills here. PK-Day has started now, it is time to kill --TeiaDOA|Pk-day 00:09, 6 June 2006 (BST)

The official Kill List is on the front page – its Pk-day! Shout your deeds into the world!--Pathetic BiII 00:26, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Will do. got 4 kills, 5 if you include myself. the whole thing can be found here --TeiaDOA|Pk-day 01:29, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Lame. All you're doing is trying to rationalise greifing.--Inkypaws 02:12, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Wanker. All you're doing is spouting the same bullshit every Anti-PK uses. Do I particularly like to get eaten by a zombie? No. Do I particularly like getting PKed? No. A zombie can kill the same number of survivors as another survivor — the only difference is that PKers manage to get their kills in a batch, then must wait before doing so again. Zombies just do it slower but steadier. There is no appreciable difference here. –Xoid STFU! 02:27, 6 June 2006 (BST)


Inkypaws. what makes you call simple RPing Greifing? I point you to this. Understand that most PKers don't PK to greif, they do it becasue thats what their character would do. Teia is a death cultist who kills to spread death. Pathetic Bill is a serial killer (unless I miss-read his page). If you don't like the way other people choose to RP in this world then too bad. PKers add a very important element to the game. --Teksura 02:43, 6 June 2006 (BST)
It can be both RPing AND greifing. When the two conflict, it seems only reasonable that we sacrifice some RP elements to avoid greifing. Why would you try and include a game element that just pisses the majority of people off? Understand that while someone may be RPing, they are also causing grief to other players. Sure, you can justify it however you like - but all you're trying to justify is ruining the game for others. If you don't want to ruin the game for others, form a group and PK among yourselves.--Inkypaws 05:53, 6 June 2006 (BST)
PKing is an oxymoron — do you think that zombie players like to die? But that is besides the point isn't it? Right? Use your head — As already stated, it cannot be griefing. Not anymore than a zombie eating survivor can be. The only difference is that a survivor can kill many targets in a short period of time and has to recharge (stocking up on ammo, et al.) Your reasoning is nothing more than a fallacy. You can justify your inane distaste for PKers any way you like, but your reasoning does not hold water. –Xoid STFU! 06:01, 6 June 2006 (BST)
You can be on the losing side in a football game, but still have had fun. In contrast, if you lost because some idiot in your team was tackling his own team members and scoring own goals, that's probably not fun. Why are you trying to justify tactics that everyone dislikes, except the perpetrators?--Inkypaws 06:33, 6 June 2006 (BST)
"Tactics"? You are seriously getting on my nerves, simpleton. Most people who PK do it for (A) the thrill of it and (B) the thrill of getting hunted. Many of these people are very good at this game versus zombies and actually want a challange. The rest of the PKing "community" consists of:
  1. People who perform a community service — killing retards until they smarten up.
  2. Death Cultists — who both waste your oversupply of syringes and try to teach you to stop combat reviving.
  3. People who do it on a whim. Ever seen someone with a name you didn't like, and leave their corpse lying face down outside the mall?
You don't like our line of reasoning. Fine. But fuck off. I'm tired of seeing your whining instead kill reports. –Xoid STFU! 07:01, 6 June 2006 (BST)
It's not a "dislike" of your reasoning - it's pointing out that your argument is flawed (and that you are being pointlessly rude). Most people don't like being PKed because it's not thrilling or fun for them, or they have no chance to defend themselves. You don't deny that what you are doing is spoiling the game for others. If you want to hunt and be hunted, form PK groups, and ONLY PK OTHER PKers! It would be much better than killing someone who isn't expecting it, and doesn't want it. I'm happy for a zombie to get the better of me, but not a PKer PRETENDING to be an ordinary decent survivor.--Inkypaws 09:49, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Listening to you makes me wanna join ASS. (I only got two kills, because of those damn flak jackets, that by the way don't effect zombies..) --Niilomaan 10:20, 6 June 2006 (BST)
I'm pretty sure zombies also get a benefit from flak jackets..?--Inkypaws 10:25, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Well zombies don't lose 20% of all their damage when attacking one with flak. Without PKers flak jacket would be just as good as crucifix for survivors and mainly used by zombies. Is that what we want? Flak jacket is there to be used bu harm... humans and I think someone should make them use it. --Niilomaan 10:30, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Except, owing to the current broken-ness of the game, PKers can get kills consistently and without assistance. Thanks to barricades and Headshot, zombies need other zombies to burn AP on barricades, and if they don't have that, good luck scoring a kill. If anything, PKing is currently favored by the game rules. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 02:39, 6 June 2006 (BST)
PKers still need revives you know. That balances it. And do you have any friggin idea how long it took me to stock up as much shotguns as I did? In the week I spent doing that I could of killed twice as many people with my horde.--Teksura 02:43, 6 June 2006 (BST)
True. I guess I'm spoiled because I operate around Caiger. That said, we only need the revives if we actually get killed, which is far from assured - I've gone something like a week and a half to two weeks without dying. And as noted, this is around Caiger, the most survivor-filled part of the map. And, further, if you don't focus on a particular type of ammo (and especially not shotgun ammo), you can easily average close to a kill a day. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 02:49, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Well Caiger is so massive, death there is meaningless. Take Kyle the Feared, I've figured out why he only has been killed twice (That I know of). Kyle starts his day by standing up and going in the entry point. then he heads to the mall, does whatever he needs to do (restock, Kill, ECT...). Then He ends his day by jumping out a window and going back into the revive line. anyone killed there is back within minutes of logging in. The wanted PKer will always have to wait as long for a revive as the people he/she kills. I was killed by Kyle twice. It took a matter of minutes to get a revive and was only slightly annoying. --Teksura 02:54, 6 June 2006 (BST)
On the other hand, well... Teia doesn't really look for revives. She only gets one when the entire place is revive happy *cough*North Blythville*cough*Caiger*cough* sorry about that. But I'm sure PKers in hard-to-get-revive areas suffer a lot when they are killed. --Teksura 03:02, 6 June 2006 (BST)
I'm really not sure of what your point is here. If it's that revives are much easier to get around Caiger than other places, I know that. I specifically acknowledged that point in the comment you were just replying to, as a matter of fact. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 06:14, 6 June 2006 (BST)

( (...) If anything, PKing is currently favoured by the game rules.(...) … don’t forget, Pk’er are getting only half XP, so the balance is re-established. (when the objective is to level up) When you don't have that objective no one is in favour. Things can only work in Someone’s favour, when it getting him faster to the objective or goal of the game. I don’t see any objective for UD, it’s an everlasting setting without a goal to reach, only there to play it endlessly, it's like a sandbox. So you are playing mainly for fun. Fun to be a Survivor try to live for the next day or to die in glorious battle against the undead hordes or you are a murderer, death cultist or whatever you want to be. --Pathetic BiII 04:16, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Sure, you should be able to have fun however you like, as long as your actions do not prevent others from also having fun. PKers have their fun at the -expense- of other players. Therefore it should not be acceptable behaviour.--Inkypaws 05:58, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Urban Dead is a PvP game, you fool. Unless all you ever do is heal, you're necessarily having fun at someone's else expense (that's right, zombies are players too!). --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 06:11, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Are you normally this rude to others? There is a difference between getting killed by a Zombie (if you're a human) and getting killed by another human. Yes, it is fun to be a survivor, causing chaos and eventually the zeds get you. Getting shot in the back by a PKer is NOT fun. I'm still waiting for some reasoning as to why spoiling the game for others is acceptable beyond the childish "because I can".--Inkypaws 06:38, 6 June 2006 (BST)
To other idiots? Yes, I am. And for the record, I prefer to shoot my victims in the face, not the back. For the last time: dying isn't fun for anyone, regardless of its manner. This doesn't make killing people "illegal", "unfair", "childish", or any of the other pejoratives you and your ilk have attempted to attach to the practice. You claim there's a difference between being killed by a zombie and by another survivor, but you've yet to explain what it is. Please don't reply to me again unless it's to do so. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 07:19, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Sure - the difference is that you don't expect the survivor to kill you. Most players (Zombie or Human) do not grief others. PKing IS unfair (because it is an act of treason rather than war), it IS childish (beacuse it is behaviour that pointlessly ruins the game experience), and it IS unwanted by the vast majority of players. I've answered your question, now answer mine, and try to be polite about it. "Why do you find spoiling the game for others acceptable?"--Inkypaws 09:49, 6 June 2006 (BST)
You say it spoils the game. I say you are full of shit. If PKing wasn't meant to be a part of the game it would be impossible. Now go play in traffic. –Xoid STFU!
The point (rudeness and personal attacks notwithstanding) is that PK-day is advocating ply that spoils the game for others. The game mechanics might be possible, but it still DOES spoil the game for others. Why do it, when there are other, less harmful ways to hunt and be hunted?--Inkypaws 10:12, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Here's a newsflash: I play this game so that I have fun, not so you can have target practice. Survivors buy headshot and use it. I get headshot every day at a minimum. More if I stand up to take out a survivor that's near my corpse. Do you think I enjoy that? Just because I've come to expect it doesn't mean it's fun.
So why do you choose to play in such a way that griefs me? Why aren't you off harrassing people to stop shooting zombies? Oh, right, 'cause then you'd have no fun at all, right? Hypocrite. –Xoid STFU! 10:56, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Oh wow, I'm so totally convinced by your clever turn of phrase (sigh). Look, no one complains when a human is killed by zombies or when zombies are killed by humans. But people DO complain when humans kill humans, and zombies kill zombies. The fact remains that people do NOT like being PKed, and that PK day promotes a style of gameplay that the vast majority of players dislike. If you want a "challenge", go hunt zombies with a kitchen knife and 3 AP.--Inkypaws 11:21, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Are you blind? Did you not read what I said? I'm here. Right now. Complaining about when a human kills my zombie. Most zombie players don't give a shit when they get ZKed because of the 1AP cost for standing, as compared to the 6AP for getting headshot. As long as you avoid ZKing zombies without ankle grab, they shouldn't care. It's the difference between losing a minimum 12% of your AP when you next stand up and a minimum of 2%. For lower level zombies, ZKing is damn near necessary to level up in an appreciable amount of time. –Xoid STFU! 12:00, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Are you being silly to aggravate me? I'm here, right now. Complaining about when a human kills my human. Most human players give a shit when PKed because it takes AGES to get revived, and until then you have to play as a smelly zombie with no zombie skills. Plus there's the whole "I was betrated by a fellow human" thing going. As long as you avoid PKing humans who don't like the PK-metagame, they shouldn't care (which is why PKers should be encouraged to hunt only those who like that sort of thing).--Inkypaws 13:19, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Are you being dense just to aggravate me? You made the fallacious claim that "no one complains when a human is killed by zombies or when zombies are killed by humans", which I refuted. You also claimed that people complain when ZKed. I didn't refute that because some idiots do complain when they are done a favour. If it's taking you ages to get revived, then go make a revive request, it's not hard. Depending on which suburb you're in, you can quite easily get revived within ten minutes of dying. –Xoid STFU! 13:27, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Think of it this way. PKers piss you off. But isn't that a sweet feeling when you show them your shotgun and dump their limp corpse? You need us for that thrill. You owe us. ----TeiaDOA|Pk-day 04:19, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Owe you a lead-shot enema :P --Boxy 13:30, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Whatever floats your boat. --TeiaDOA|Pk-day 22:06, 6 June 2006 (BST)

1. This entire game is PvP. The whole idea of PKing being bad is from people trying to enforce stuff from different games that doesn't fit here.

2. Have you ever seen a zombie movie Inkypaws? Seriously, you seem to have no idea about the genre you're playing in. Every zombie movie has crazy psycho humans it it.

3. It's a lot more in genre than fucking revive points are. What precisely do the Mrh cows add to the game? And they always seem to the main people who complain loudest about PKing.

4. If PKing was not a legitimate part of the game than you wouldn't be able to do it and flak jackets would not exist. Period. What you're doing is similar to playing a game of monopoly and trying to change the rules so you don't have to pay rent. If you don't like the game, don't play it. Don't try and selfishly alter the game for your own desires.

5. Most PKers target high level players in preference. Sorry, but if you have large amounts of XP stored up, and you have no zombie skills, then that is entirely your own fucking fault. The people who whine loudest are the same ones responsible for fucking up the game balance in the first place. Fuck them. With razor wire and broken glass.


--Black Mask 16:05, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Thank you! That sums up a lot of my thoughts. --Pathetic BiII 16:54, 6 June 2006 (BST)
I second all that. I second that so much I'm signing all 3 of my ALTs to this. There is NO SUCH THING as PKing in a game where the whole thing is PVP. Or are people forgetting Zombies are players as well "OH NO! A bunck of other players who were Zombies boke into my safehouse and killed me. thus must be doing that to greif me." Thats the way the game is played. People die one way or another at the hands of another player. A Zombie who kills a harman could be considered PKing under the logic that the zombie is another Player who is Killing another player --Teksura MCDU | Dreak Malton Marshals | TeiaDOA|Pk-day 22:14, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Go all the way to St. Isidore's for a rev, come back, and get PKd. Thanks a whole fucking lot. Tokakeke 00:37, 7 June 2006 (BST)

Ten Year Anniversary

Wow. It's been almost ten years since PK-Day. I wonder what's going to happen on it's 10 year anniversary... --Jerran1 NecroConnect Creator/Admin 21:23, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

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