Talk:User Hub

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Contents 1 Current Discussion 1.1 Inactivity maintenence 1.2 Janitor Needed 1.3 The fuck? 1.4 Communitise it? 1.5 Tablise it? 2 From UHUB Discussion 3 Yo 4 Regular maintenance

Current Discussion

Inactivity maintenence

Its not that hard to check all users for inactivity, but I'm going to make our lives a little easier. I'm gonna throw a generic template onto inactive users talk page, telling them when they return to the wiki to shove themselves back on or unsrike themselves. I'll have the template ready soon, unless Link wants to try throw one up tonight. Keep your eyes peeled. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:22, 9 April 2009 (BST)

Just don't remove names from the list. Strike ing them is good enough, kk?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 16:56, 9 April 2009 (BST)

But I love it so... Alright. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:55, 10 April 2009 (BST)

	UHUB- Noted Inactivity
	You have been noted inactive since {{{1}}}, and your name has been struck off the User Hub as per the UHUB guidelines. Once you become active again, you are invited to edit the User Hub and change the {{UHUBs| infront of your name to {{UHUB| (remove the lower case 's') and remove the inactive note at the end. This will label you as active again.

What do you think? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:13, 10 April 2009 (BST)

I'm not a big fan of the color, but the wording is fine. Although a template like {{crit9warning}} would do just as well. Linkthewindow  Talk  05:43, 10 April 2009 (BST)

Yeah the colour is so banana-ish. It needs changing but I am now too lazy to do so. Could you? Pleeeeeease? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:58, 10 April 2009 (BST)

Janitor Needed

This is horribly out of date. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:31, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Yet another thing that I've forgotten to do :(. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, just strike out inactives and leave it be. No point in removing their name too, as that makes it harder for people to find out more about past users. That's what this little project is for isn't it? Ease of finding people? I can think of over a dozen times when I was trying to find my way to a users page but couldn't quite think of how their name was spelled, or even done, and this UHUB would have made it a lot easier. Removing names after only a month or two is just dumb.--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 23:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Just a suggestion: Whoever takes on the task of maintaining the page should occasionally check the status of the users whose names have been crossed out. Sometimes people are away from the Wiki for a time, but come back.--Lois ^{talk 10MFH} 23:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

It's definitely worth removing newbies, but, yeah, for users who were once quite active, they should stay. Linkthewindow  Talk  06:05, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I dunno. I think a seperate table under the active one for them would be better. Don't know why, just feels more apt. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:27, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

What about making it more.. modular? as in my templatised or something. An argument which you fill in with a subst? Perhaps I'm needlessly over complicating things. _■^■ 03:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

The fuck?

How the fuck do you decide who goes on this list? I noticed Boxy added me a while ago. I'm not all that active anymore and shit. Is this like the cool people of the wiki's club? --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 03:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

You're active enoughs for me! Come back Sonny! Do lulzy things some moar!--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 14:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

It's for people who are likely to be searched for... and let's face it, you are, ahem, "popular" (plus I can never remember how to speel Saromu :P) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 03:47 8 February 2009 (BST)

Pretty much. Which reminds me, I should probably clean this out soon. Linkthewindow  Talk  06:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Someone should have done it... I labelled long-inactive users a month ago, work from that. Liberty 08:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Also, there needs to be an ammendment because simply timestamping when you labelled the user as inactive isn't enough to make anyone else's job easier. The timestamp should actually be for when the user was inactive, so its easier for other users to do the janitor work. Liberty 08:35, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

k --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 15:44, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Communitise it?

Surely this should be put under the community section of the Wiki Sidebar. Liberty 13:10, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes and no. I just find it easier to type UHUB ;P. Linkthewindow  Talk  00:01, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree, that way nubsicles will actually find it.--xoxo 00:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

LTW, I think it needs to be accessible from every page, its a pretty far-reaching tool. Liberty 02:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Is this page really that useful ? I stil didnt found a reason to have it :P --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 02:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It was meant to be a replacement for those user page redirects back in the day, and to more easily find people with long usernames :). Linkthewindow  Talk  03:41, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It could be more useful if a link is offered to every user on every page? Liberty 04:19, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Tablise it?

I think this may be better being a wikitable sortable table? What do you think? It would be simple to change the current template to do this without having to change many of the entries (only those with alternate names) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 08:24 2 December 2008 (BST)

I Like it. Although yet again someone's fallen into the Ross's trap. Ross' is more than enough! --Ross^lessness 09:04, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah... one of the problem with template variables and the English language -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 09:22 2 December 2008 (BST)

I like it too. Should we organize it in one super-table or under alphabetical headings like now, and what to do with nicknames? Linkthewindow  Talk  10:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Well I've added more variables... but the more you put in, the more likely it becomes that people are going to stuff it up -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 11:35 2 December 2008 (BST)

Looking good. I say put all the basic stuff on the main page, and then link the more complex stuff onto a separate page. As I've said below, it saves clogging and means that newer users won't confuse themselves with having to add stuff they don't really need. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

In that case, I'd say just leave the explanation for putting in the name, and leave the others on the template page. New users don't usually have established abbreviations, or nicks, so name is all that's needed -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 11:46 2 December 2008 (BST)

I would also remove the "Alts" column. Most users don't have alts, and if they do, that information can be added in the comment= section. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:52, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Fairynuff. And it isn't encouraged, so it's just looking for trouble, eh -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 11:55 2 December 2008 (BST)

I meant to say, one big table so the whole list can be ordered by name, nick or comment, depending on what you're looking for -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 11:46 2 December 2008 (BST)

Move done. No obvious problems by the looks of things. Linkthewindow  Talk  12:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

It's functional... could do with a bit of styling up, but it works :) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:53 2 December 2008 (BST)

Well... Shame I can't use Photoshop :(. Linkthewindow  Talk  12:56, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

At least you have Photoshop... :'( --ZsL 08:11, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Never said I did :'( Linkthewindow  Talk  09:00, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I do!--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 11:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

From UHUB Discussion

Thanks to everyone who contributed suggestions. I added your names to this page as thanks (as well as all the sysops Linkthewindow  Talk  07:53, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

The sysops don't need to be on there since you can get to them from the Main Page>Administration>List of Sysops. Beyond that I think it should be listed alphabetically like Vandal Data. Users have to either add themselves or if you want a link to someone's page you add it.

I think if it gets too crowded then rules like name must be over X characters and user must have made an edit in the last X months or they get removed should be added. Permabanned vandals will be removed since they will be linked in VB/VD.--– Nubis ^NWO 02:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think crouding would be too much of a problem (within reason-) the list would obviously be Ctrl-F searchable. Good point on the sysops-forgot about that. Linkthewindow  Talk  04:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Define 'UHUB' pleae. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 03:48, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

User Hub-simply an easily assessable list of active users on the wiki. As I said, the point was raised by Gnome in the recent deletions vote over user page redircts in the main space. Needed as insanely long usernames are a pain to type in the search bar (take DDR as an example.) Linkthewindow  Talk  04:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

:( Awwww, I came up with the UHUB idea. I have an idea for a compromise. Why not make 1 page and list links to all the user pages that people want a "quick link" to? Call the page UHUB (user hub) and let user's add basic text links to their User page. Organize it alphabetically. Just an idea in the works.--– Nubis 02:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)  :) --– Nubis ^NWO 13:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)--– Nubis ^NWO 13:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Was that on deletions? That was where I first saw it :), but I decided to make this page after the Scheduled deletions vote (and got the idea of Gnome.) Linkthewindow  Talk  20:24, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm assuming it means "User Hub", a hub being a "place where data arrives from one or more direction, and is forwarded out again in one or more other directions". Basically this would be a central page where everyone could come to find directions to other users pages -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 04:10 16 November 2008 (BST)

I don't think we need to weed out non-active users if the hub is a reasonable size and ctrl F searchable. That seems like extra effort and maintenance. --– Nubis ^NWO 13:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'd make a template that automatically formatted everyone's entry, so that it's easier to add yourself, and everyone is formatted the same way. Basically, all you'd have to do to add yourself would be to type {{UHUB|Boxy}} in the correct place and you'd get "*Boxy ^talk". Perhaps even have the template timestamp the entry, so that you can easily see which are the oldest entries to check that they're still active (although this would require the template to be subst:ed) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 04:04 16 November 2008 (BST)

Good idea. thanks for making me famous. --Ross^lessness 21:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I think sysops should be at the higher point in the page, and other users should be in a second section. Users should have to resubmit their name (timestamp it) every month or something, similar to the Arbitrator List or Recruitment Page. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:18, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think timestamping is a good idea, mainly because this is not for the benefit of the users whose names are listed, this is for everyone else. They shouldn't have to bother updating a timestamp. Besides, updating timestamps creates a ton of superfluous edits. The way it's done on the arbitrator list (just check when their last contribution was) would be better. You could even put their contributions among the other links, so that you'd get "*Boxy ^{talk contribs}", making it easier to check. --Midianian ^{Big Brother Diary Room: [510,18]} 10:45, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Thats quite a good way of doing it. That or just purge the page every x months. --Ross^lessness 11:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

The obvious problem with purging is that it is a pain in the ass to update every few months, and that most people would simply forget. I like the contributions idea. Perhaps it will just have to be up to some janitors to check it every few months? Linkthewindow  Talk  20:23, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Last Call! Okay, I've made the template Linkthewindow^{talk contribs, and will be moved into the mainspace soon. A quick rundown of what I think people have suggested here:}

• Template used to format entries (see above-thanks Boxy)
• Contributions checked every few months, inactive users removed (thanks Midianian)
• Listed alphabetically

Anyone got any changes before this gets created? Oh, and could someone with more knowledge in the wiki tell me if this is eligible to be posted on the main page (in the Wiki news column?) Linkthewindow  Talk  09:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Listing the sysops first? --Ross^lessness 09:15, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Thats on the main page-I only listed things that where brought up in the discussion. And, yes, that means sysops will be listed first (assuming everyone agrees.) Linkthewindow  Talk  09:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't really see why sysops should be listed first. You could put a link to Special:Listusers/sysop at the top, but otherwise I think sysops should be listed alphabetically like others. --Midianian ^{Big Brother Diary Room: [509,20]} 09:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'll make this after my exams are over (unless someone else wants too-much appreciated!) Linkthewindow  Talk  09:08, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Yo

Why was I removed from the page? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 02:50, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

...By Iscariot? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 02:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

You know what you did... (Iunno. Oversight?) ◐◑ﷲ 02:54, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Probably because you were labelled twice? Who cares, put yourself back up I say. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Whatever, it's back up now. Is there anyone in charge of this project, or is it all just up in the air? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 03:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

In the air. I forget we even have the page.-- SA 04:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

The page is a POS created to shut me up when useful user page redirects like gnome, haggy and DDR were deleted for no valid reason. It was destined to serve no useful purpose and ultimately fail. xoxo 09:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Why were you removed? I removed close to a gazillion names using a very simple process due to the amount that had to be done, click scroll wheel on user contribution's link, see if there are any contributions in the last two months, if no, remove user.

The least people like you could do to help us out is to have your entry and therefore your contributions link under your active fucking account! -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 15:47, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 17:28, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

This from the guy who's whining at being removed.... -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 17:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Regular maintenance

It's been a few months, so I went ahead and did a little cleaning, but nothing too drastic. Since SA (and others?) had indicated that they still wanted some inactive accounts to remain on the list, I did the following.

• Accounts inactive for 2+ months with <50 edits were cut. I figured they were one-shot wonders who got lucky in finding the list.
• Accounts inactive for 1+ month(s) were struck and left with an inactivity comment saying when they went inactive.
• No warnings were put on talk pages for anyone.

If we want to follow the rules to the letter, then I've done all the heavy-lifting already, and someone else can just come through and check the comments I left to remove some of the names and warn others, but I wasn't up for going through the whole warning thing, so I'll leave that for someone else. —Aichon— 09:41, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Put the removed ones back.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 09:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Not needed. The user hub isn't meant to be a list of all users on the wiki, just a list showing users that may need to be found quickly. I wouldn't be against making this "you must be active in the A/ namespace to qualify," page, but that would cause too much drama. Yes, older, notable users should stay, but not every random who saw "User Hub" in the "Community" sidebar. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:14, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I SAID PUT THEM BACK. >:| -- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 12:04, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I said shut the fuck up this page is a dumb nigger like you. xoxo 12:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello A/VB.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 12:31, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

THis isn't a/vb silly. xoxo 12:48, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

No, but you are! ;) -- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 12:51, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

And you will be soon for frivilous case. xoxo 13:05, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

So will you! D: -- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:08, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok, for the future reference of people coming along to this...whatever this is...after some chat on IRC, it was basically thought that the purpose of the list is to be a place to quickly find users who have opted in to being easily found, and that activity really has very little to do with it in general. Since the list isn't that bloated to begin with, it's not really an issue if it's allowed to grow for now, though obviously there may be a need to rein it in eventually. Until then though, might as well let it go. That about sum it up, SA? —Aichon— 13:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, we also concluded that I am god-like. Just sayin'-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Well lucky you IRC fags decide everything for the rest of us. Now where the nigger (a/vb plox) is mibbit...xoxo 13:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)