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Demotions

A classy thing to do would be to not report demotions. Same goes for unsuccessful bids for promotion. Nobody wants their failures splashed across the main page. --  T   10:19, 6 August 2007 (BST)

Unweildy

This template is pretty unwieldy to use and, based on the edit history, error-prone. Would it be possible to get it replaced? I mean, a single table cell that people could add lines to the top of and remove from the bottom would suffice, I think.--Jorm 02:57, 16 August 2007 (BST)

I've reworked it, so it should be less clumsy to use now. People just need to remember to alternate between using NewsItemYello and NewsItemWhite. --  T   18:24, 16 August 2007 (BST)
Well, yes, that's a lot easier, but we're still going to have problems where we have to go and change every existing entry when adding a new one (because that will throw off the banding). I'm of the opinion that usability trumps visual pretty (actually, it's not so much of an opinion as it is a fact backed by scientific proof, but that's getting into my job and shit), so I'd just leave off the banding entirely and then we don't have those problems at all.--Jorm 18:29, 16 August 2007 (BST)
I don't think it's going to be necessary to change all the existing entries for every new update. People can just add new updates in the opposite colour from the next most recent update. There's no reason why the table will always have to start with a yellow band. --  T   20:32, 16 August 2007 (BST)
That's a good point. We just need to make sure that the template's instructions indicate this.--Jorm 21:16, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Delete Last entry or keep for 2 weeks

i recall we had entries being left for 2 weeks before removal, but in curent list of rules it says "remove last one". Shouldn't this be fixed? --~~~~ [talk] 10:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I noted this as well. My personal view is that, at least in administrive issues, notices should left for as long as the discussion/vote period lasts, but it does say "remove last one"; probably as a leftover of Hagnat's first drawing of the system, or he intended it to be that way. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 13:08, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
The system needs to be changed so that everything that would go into the Wiki News template is also stuck in another page that lists all the news. Then the template could have a link to things that aren't within the four most recent at the bottom, which would be a link to all the archived news or whatever. – Nubis 13:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Might be useful to add how many entries there should be just in-case something gets removed/added that shouldn't.--Karekmaps?! 13:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Didn't you notice the Go to Wiki News at the bottom of the template? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 13:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I can't see what that has to do with anything unless you meant to reply to Nubis.--Karekmaps?! 13:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
You're right, I was replying to Nubis and my indent was wrong: it's just that you edit-conflicted me and I just added another indent level assuming you were talking about the same thing. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 15:22, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Which is great and all, but it isn't used. At all. Which means the template needs to be changed, or the directions changed, so that stuff gets put in both places. Or better yet, Wiki News changed so that the first four items in the list are automatically on the template. – Nubis 17:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that can be done with inclusion for templates.--Karekmaps?! 17:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I've 'updated' the template, switching to the Two Weeks idea, and telling people to add the news to UDWiki:News. Hopefully this will work without the main page needing reorganization. – Nubis 00:11, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Updated News

I've updated the text about Grim's demontion attempt, noting that voting has stopped. Linkthewindow 10:06, 9 October 2008 (BST)

Locked?

When did this template become locked? That's annoying. Also the links for the new policy vote are messed up, the vote links to the talk and the talk links to the vote. I reckon a sysop will have to fix that now.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 16:38, 24 April 2010 (BST)

This is protected? It shouldn't be, I'll check the logs. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 16:46, 24 April 2010 (BST)
I editted it last night...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:46, 24 April 2010 (BST)
Having checked, it's only semi-protected, meaning only registered users can edit it. Which, if I'm not mistaken, shouldn't be an issue, since it's been that way since mid-09. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 16:47, 24 April 2010 (BST)
Righto. I tried to edit it without being logged in, and so I got the message that it was protected. Thanks for clearing this up!--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 00:58, 25 April 2010 (BST)

February...

...is just full of news, isn't it? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 19:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Better create swiftly a news entry about it, in case that anyone misses.
February 15th: Holy shit, that's the longest News Template evar in wiki history!
February 16th: No dawg THIS is longest news template evar! OVER 9000 ENTRIES!
-- Spiderzed 19:34, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Frankly I think we can ditch the congratulations now. I'm sure spiderzed and thad have worked out they've been promoted by now. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:48, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Done. I'd also be in favour of getting rid of the harassment PD announcement. It's abandonded and unlikely to take off again. And the typo really hurts my eyes. Ze goggles! Zey do nothing! -- Spiderzed 19:57, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Withdrawn Policies

What's the procedure with them and this template? As a matter of fact, can we get someone to write up a template usage guideline for dealing with removals and new additions including what should be added and what shouldn't? Not just those standard examples but a How To for usage. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 09:18, 16 May 2011 (BST)

item 4 tells that anything rejected (withdrawn included) should not be reported... and when i wrote this template, only the things listed in the type of news section were supposed to be added to the list --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 17:16, 16 May 2011 (BST)
what hagnat said is how we typically deal with it. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 17:43, 16 May 2011 (BST)

Archive Purge

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! The mamories!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:22, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Better than no wiki, I s'pose. ~Vsig.png 14:30, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Where did we here about this purge? I know I haven't been around, but I really can't see where we were told about it; any clues?--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:06, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Template:Wiki News. Kevan updated it yesterday. ~Vsig.png 20:30, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
OK, then what's with the "pages to protect" category?--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:22, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
You can export all pages within a category using Special:Export. It just made it easier than going one by one, though I ended up having to split the pages up anyway because of the sheer size of the exported files. Misconduct was 160MB. The combined A/VB Archives were close to 300MB. If I'd known you were active, I would have asked you to run the bot on everything instead of... *ahem*... manipulating Spidey into doing it. :P ~Vsig.png 20:30, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Slapping a category on each and every VB page was the easiest way to make sure I am eligible at the November crat election. -- Spiderzed 20:35, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
I thought it was so you'd be eligible to have the fluffy duck misconduct stuck as soon as possible. You'd have been eligible for crat just by being an active sysop with at least 12 edits in the last 30 days. ~Vsig.png 20:40, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
It goes hand in hand, doesn't it? Speaking of A/DE, I am already automatically eligible on December 9. Good thing that no one has dealed with uncategorized pics since August. -- Spiderzed 15:25, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Ah, I see; now it makes more sense. And, yeah, I am kinda activish (and the bot could've done it). Actually, on a general note: It's always worth dropping me a line if you want something done because I have a tendency to be inactive not due to disinterest but merely due to being distracted; the email notification from new messages will normally be enough motivation for me to turn up again.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 22:18, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Good to know. I may ask for you to run the bot on the same pages after the purge to remove the category. ~Vsig.png 04:49, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

where does it say?

if there is no new news the ticker has to say "no news" why can't it be a bit more flowery?-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 20:13, 14 January 2013

To me it seems unprofessional. I'm fine with there being a longer/more interesting message, as long as it's consistent and classy. (Like "No current news reports. Please add new ones here.") Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:21, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
We could settle for "No newts", which is factually true. -- Spiderzed 20:29, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Meh, vandal ban him and protect the page. Thats pretty funny --Rosslessness 22:45, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Shoulda been taken to A/VB and now the compromise message is incredibly lame. A ZOMBIE ANT 23:44, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. Its lame now. SH I ain't savin yer ass this time. ~Vsig.png 00:03, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Guys, vandal banning is about bad intent. Clearly he didn't have it here. There are examples where it's enough even without intent, notably the duck on the main page case, but there's a massive difference. It wasn't tearing apart the very fabric of the wiki. If somebody had been massively offended they could have posted on his talk and politely asked him to stop. If he didn't, then sure. But we don't know that. Assume good faith guys. <3 --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 01:23, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Guess Shortstuff is savin yer ass tbis time, ya basterd. ~Vsig.png 01:56, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Position yourself where you want. But the fact of the matter is the current situation is embarrassingly lame, and shutting the 'bad guy' of the situation out via A/VB would have let the issue be fixed properly, rather than this silly compromise. Easy peasy A ZOMBIE ANT 02:58, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Use the system in any way to get the right thing done, haven't you learned ANYTHING, shortround?? A ZOMBIE ANT 03:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
To be honest, so long as we reach the right solution in the end I don't think we need to be too fussed about how we get there. If we want to have a less lame and more appropriate message, we agree on a good one and change it. But we don't need to vandal ban anyone to make that happen. :P --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 12:02, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
FUCK U VAPES!-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 14:03, 15 January 2013
<3 ~Vsig.png 00:10, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
The "compromise message" wasn't a compromise message, since I actually posted that up there before I saw that there was a discussion here. It was me simply changing it to something different, since I thought "No news" was lame and drab, while the other stuff being put up there was inappropriate. If you have a suggestion for better wording to use, by all means, please suggest it, since I'd certainly be open to something else. I wasn't too fond of the wording I put up there either. Aichon 15:59, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
just as long as it's more interesting than "no news"-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 20:28, 15 January 2013
There is no major wiki news at this time. Feel free to check out Recent Changes for up to the minute action. --Rosslessness 20:41, 15 January 2013 (UTC) Like.png 2 people like this comment.
What's wrong with "No news"? ~Vsig.png 00:10, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
It adds nothing of value, makes my grammatical eyes bleed, and is an affront to the common decency of man. Plus there's no Lovely Blue Link --Rosslessness 00:17, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
You know it's a slow news day when the only new news is what new name to give no news. Have you ever looked at the wikis for other online browser based games? here's one that will affect your senses beyond belief. Kind of makes our no news name conundrum seem prosaic. ~Vsig.png 01:06, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
A discussion on what phraseology to use when there is no news is currently taking place. All users are encouraged to contribute.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 01:15, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
#{{firstworldwikiproblems}} ~Vsig.png 01:17, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
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