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Amazing vs Bentley Foss

One only need check out his Talk page and my Talk page, along with the Suggestion discussion page, Zaruthustra's talk page, and that zany WCDZ page.

He has also committed at least one act of vandalism by deleting my reply to one of his votes from the main suggestion page. He then moved it to the Discussion page with his own rants where fewer people would ever know it existed.

I'd appreciate a warning for abusive/trolling/flaming behavior as well as harassment. This may not be a bannable offence, of course, but you're more than able to twart flame-wars before they get out of hand. -- Amazing 18:18, 7 Jan 2006 (GMT)

I'll make a decision after Bentley posts his side of this story, as per the Arbitration guidelines. --LibrarianBrent 19:34, 7 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Domo Arigato. To keep it clear I'm not looking for any massive reprocussions or anything in my bringing this here, but I'd prefer this didn't spread any further since it seems to have 'infected' multiple pages as it is. -- Amazing 21:47, 7 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Just a quick reply, because I'm about to head out for the day

I was under the impression that Talk pages were exempt from Arbitration, as per the Moderation/Policy_Discussion#Insults_and_Language in the Locational Language/Interaction and Free Language/Interaction sections. If I've misinterpreted the rules regarding personal talk pages, please let me know. Everything should still be up on my talk page if you need to see it.

Aside from the personal talk pages, we have the discussion page discussion. In the short and simple version, I said "Here are lots of valid reasons why your suggestion is a bad idea", and got counter-arguments such as "everyone's just being a stupid dick", "Bitchy McWhiner", "Try not being a stupid little kid", "lame-ass", and whatnot. When the suggestion was still on the main page, following the customs of all such extended discussions in recent memory, I moved the four or five replies to the talk page and provided a link telling people that they could follow our enlightening discussion on the talk page. This is the "act of vandalism" to which he referred.

I have to get going for now. If you need any more information, just drop me a note and let me know.

quick edit a couple minutes later Oh yeah, the original suggestion over which this all arose can be found here.

Bentley Foss 20:24, 7 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Response: Talk pages are NOT exempt from Arbitration. In fact, most Arbitration evidence is based on information found on talk pages. The Locational/Free Language/Interaction proposals have not been fully decided upon, and merely state that insulting people is allowed (i.e. won't get you banned). --LibrarianBrent 21:06, 7 Jan 2006 (GMT)
  • Please provide a link to the fully decided upon rules, because to be quite honest, I have not found them. I thought the things I linked to were the rules. Thanks. Bentley Foss 07:05, 8 Jan 2006 (GMT)
    • Well... Currently there are no fully decided upon rules. That's why it's still on Policy Discussion - we're still awaiting input from the community. -- Odd Starter talk | Mod 07:11, 8 Jan 2006 (GMT)
      • Eh...something doesn't seem quite right about that, but eh, oh well. If that's the way things are. Thanks. Bentley Foss 07:15, 8 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Arbitrator Decision

In this case, it is entirely obvious that Bentley Foss, as well as Daxx, is being consistently antagonistic and insulting towards Amazing. In particular, his actions on the Talk:Suggestions page are outrageous and irresponsible, and his use of a group page to insult other contributors to the wiki is completely inappropriate. Bentley claimed that he had "said lots of valid reasons why Amazing's suggestion was a bad idea", whereas in reality, he had created a section on the discussion page entitled "Let the destruction of Amazing commence". Although Amazing's own responses could certainly be considered rude, they are obviously provoked by Bentley's outrageous conduct. Bentley Foss and Daxx are hereby directed to STOP their harassment of Amazing, and REMOVE all antagonistic content from currently-existing pages. Failure to comply with this judgement will result in banning, as dictated by the Arbitration guidelines. --LibrarianBrent 06:18, 8 Jan 2006 (GMT)

  • I took down everything on my talk page and on the suggestion discussion page. Everything else was either gone before I got there or on Amazing's page, and I'll let him handle that task himself. Bentley Foss 07:23, 8 Jan 2006 (GMT)
  • Also, can I assume I'm still free to vote on his suggestions when they appear (and have extended reasons on the discussion page, if required to make a point) as long as I make it "wiki-neutral" or whatever the term is? Bentley Foss 07:12, 8 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Yes, of course. Just stop harassing him. --LibrarianBrent 18:07, 8 Jan 2006 (GMT)
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