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User:Cornholioo versus User:Devorac

Hello,

Sorry if I'm doing this wrong. I was told I could report someone on this page. So, a user called Devorac has been causing vandalism to the Battle of Krinks page. He has been re-adding subjective texts after I've removed them. See also this link: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Battle_of_Krinks&diff=1677678&oldid=1677674 Could anyone please give him a warning or something?

Thanks in advance,

Cornholioo.

This is not a subjective text. The Philosophe Knights Have declared our position in the Battle of Krinks. We will be joining the battle. Unless the meaning of subjective has changed while I was gone this is in no way "Subjective". I would like to file a counter-case against Cornholioo for constantly editing material pertaining to the Battle of Krinks. If possible I would like to have a neutral arbitrator appointed to the page, rather than have 48/63 page edits made by the same person, even if no bias is meant it is sure to be imparted. -Devorac 18:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Stuff you are signing there yourself, like what we are posting here, can be subjective. Calling both parties (WWSIS and NSU) "stupid", is subjective. I would rather only place facts on the page "Battle of Krinks", not signed stuff. --Cornholioo 12:27, 21 March 2010 (UTC).
Right, well Arbitration isn't about "warning" people or "reporting" them. It's about solving the underlying issues under page disputes, and ensuring that there aren't problems about. It's essentially in the form of discussion between the involved parties led by a neutral arbitrator (who the sides will agree on before the case begins). At the end, the arbitrator will make a ruling based on the discussion, designed to resolve the issues at hand. For instance, in your case, it'll likely involve a ruling on what should happen to the page in question, and will likely include a ruling to stop you contacting each other to stir up more problems.
As such, I volunteer to arbitrate this case. There's also a list of other users who might be willign to arbitrate above. Both parties should, if they are willing to proceed, nominate users who they would accept to arbitrate the case.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:00, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I accept Yonnua Koponen as arbitrator for the case. -Devorac 19:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I offer to arbitrate. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 19:51, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

As you're a Philosophe Knight, I feel you should probably note the fact that you're an associated party to one side.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:52, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I think the very clear link in my sig might give it away. Also, my Knight is a non-combatant and will not be taking part in this Krink's business, he's busy at the mansion. So much for your involved party argument. However I do have experience in resolving disputes between diametrically opposed parties, including BB2, MT09, the Knights to name but a few. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 19:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I know, I just feel you should let them know before a group member of one of the party's arbitrates the case.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:58, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Have you disclosed that you are in fact a dirty communist in real life? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I thank you Iscariot, and I more than welcome your advice in the coming matters. However I would like this done in such a way that there is no chance for bias, whether perceived or real. As such I cannot in good faith accept either you or Misanthropy as an arbitrator. Thanks anyway Izzy. -Devorac 20:03, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Yonnua, after reviewing case archives I have decided to revoke my acceptance of you. Nothing against you I just would like a different Arbitrator, If possible I would like Rosslessness as an arbitrator. -Devorac 20:31, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm so popular. Of course I'll arbie, if both parties accept. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:35, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm sitting in Krinks right now, sippin' tea with AHLG and watching everything. I'd be happy to arbitrate. --

00:55, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Cheerio lads, I'd be willing to head-up this sorting. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 04:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to remind all parties involved that it's standard procedure to leave the offending edit as it stood when the arbitration started, and not to continue to revert each other. Given that Cornholioo started this arbitration at 17:58, 18/03, I'm going to revert back to the latest version of the page in question at that point, and I don't care who made it. Until this case is closed, both parties are asked to refrain from further editing of the page section in question. Thanks. When I fall, I'll weep for happiness 21:50, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Then you're completely wrong. Cornholioo started the arbitration so it's Devorac's edits that are contested. The page should remain on Cornholioo's preferred state. This isn't A/P, protection isn't based on time of cycling. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 22:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Aha. Carry on then. When I fall, I'll weep for happiness 22:44, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I accept Yonnua Koponen or DanceDanceRevolution as arbitrator. I do not accept Iscariot and Rosslessness as arbitrator. --Cornholioo 12:32, 21 March 2010 (UTC).

I recommend you reconsider Ross as an arbitrator. He's probably the most experienced, and I'm certain he'll be neutral.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:59, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I know his type, he only denyed those as the opposing candinate wanted them. --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 14:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I denied him because I don't think he's neutral. But believe whatever you want. --Cornholioo 17:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC).
I did point out a spelling mistake of Corn's once. Could be construed as bias. Besides you know how anti freedom of speech I am. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I recommend you take Rosslessness. I can guarantee you that Yonnua and DDR aren't going to be accepted. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 17:50, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Seeing that Ross, Iscariot, and Yonnua have been eliminated as potential arbitrators, I offer myself to arbitrate. I've reviewed the details of the case carefully, looking through the history and talk page of the Battle of Krinks. I am familiar with the facts and I'll rule impartially after hearing the arguments of both sides, with the goal of establishing fair and clear guidelines for the editing of the page in question.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 13:14, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

I accept. --Cornholioo 18:06, 21 March 2010 (UTC).

Could I make one little suggestion? Even though this has been disguised as a dispute between two individuals, it's really a dispute between two groups in a way,... these groups being the NSU, and the Philosophe Knights. But regardless of how you view what I've just said, I don't think that it is appropriate for either party to be editing the page as can be seen here until this case is over.... -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 04:26, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Did you even read the case's discussion here, or look at the history? I don't think there was a single phrase you just said that hasn't been assumed or agreed on already. The only edits made after it was decided that the edit in dispute should remain untouched was to simply update the battle to signify the end, which is agreed on and has little significance to this arbitration case. -- 04:37, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
You missed my point all togethor. Like Giles states below,... arbitration appears to still be going on to me. I've seen nothing stating it has concluded. That said, until the two parties involved agree as to wether it should be NPOV, or POV, neither should be editing it. And as for telling me it's something that hasn't been agreed to... that's why it's a suggestion. -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 14:04, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

The current charges have been dropped on our end. -Devorac 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

There's still the matter of cornholioo requesting arbitration in regards to "re-adding subjective texts", for which I am available. Of course, you're both free at any time to reach your own consensus about how you want to handle the article in question. If you can agree to collectively write the article either POV or NPOV, and stick to it, then there will be no need for arbitration. --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 08:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I think there is still need for arbitration. Devorac, do you agree to take Giles Sednik as arbitrator? --Cornholioo 9:01, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Decide carefully, we are dropping this case. You can have your edit back if you want, I won't revert it. The battle has progressed to the point that fighting over this particular edit is a wee bit silly. You can press the case, I wouldn't advise it though. -Devorac 16:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
You have broken the rules by editing the whole page, including the part which was under arbitration. I hope the admins will react on this correctly. --Cornholioo 18:16, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Those claims are false. My editing ability is restricted on that page (Along with yours), Iscariot was not shackled by our Arbitration case. Unless you want to be fighting this battle on two fronts I once again suggest that you drop this case. -Devorac 18:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
You are in the same group. It's a bit strange that we get restricted and then someone that is in the same group just edits it to something else, while it's under arbitration right here. --Cornholioo 19:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
It ever occur to you to just let the page be, and dispute the claims on your own page? Seriously, you want to take issue with it? Put it in your name space, and no one would be able to do a damn thing about it, now STFU, and quit whining, dumbass. -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 19:13, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Unless the arrogant and offending tune of this post, I'll tell you that this is not about making claims here, it's about reproducing facts, reproducing the truth. Take such a tune again and I will report it, though. --Cornholioo 21:30, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Obviously, the whole community is dead set against you, and your "facts"... so again STFU,... quit whining,... and add this bs to your namespace where no one would give two shits less. These are strong suggestions.... they will get people off your back in a hurry. Trust me,... then again, what would I expect from such ignorant, arrogant, and all out pathetic low lifes such as you. After seeing images like the ones I just linked to... do you really feel like getting all whiney assed with me, and go off on some lonely rant about how arrogant, and cocky I am, and further distance yourself from this community? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 03:25, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Quoting on this part: "the whole community is dead set against you, and your "facts"...", that makes no sense. As long as I only report facts, then everything is alright. So you now have a case against you. --Cornholioo 6:17, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Look, you've filed against two people above, neither one of which are giving you any leeway. Second of all, some facts have been disputed,... and other's have been questioned, and I can't say that I blame them considering you made the majority of edits to the page. Still don't believe your facts are wrong, or the the community is against you (read "you're against the whole of the community"). Second,... take my suggestion. Post it under your user mainspace. It's a good idea, and no one would be able to do anything about it. Now stop talking stupid shit, and move on.... -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 12:32, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Wow, wait. This cases aren't about giving away any leeway or not. It's about stuff which is going on either party does not agree with. This involves three cases I've started against someone else and one case someone else started against me. The longer you are going to use the argument: "you're not right because the whole community is against you", the more weird it's sounding in my eyes. As long as I try to be objective and place facts, I have a clean conscience. Why would I care what someone else thinks about that then? If you don't agree with them that is absolutely fine. For that there's an edit button and a talk page, oh, and a possibility to report people if needed. But no, you lack healthy thinking as well as clever speaking, so you qualify someone elses post as "stupid shit". Do I have to continue? I don't think so. --Cornholioo 14:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Let me make this very clear, the general tone I got from the community who's posted on the talk page is that your a dick, and nobody likes you. I never said that makes you wrong.... Second of all,... you don't like the page, well you can't edit it now, because it's protected.... which brings me to my third point: if you want to dispute it without pissing off the entire community, make it part of your user name space, and no one will screw with the damn thing again!! That's all I'm saying,.... and to believe, out of all those sperm, your stupid ass was the fastest.... -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 21:35, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Let me give this one last input, seen as your intelligence requires this. You have said that the community doesn't like me. Now you are stating: 'I never said that makes you wrong'. I don't think you ment anything else usefull with your childish 'statement' ("you're a dick", "no one likes you"), so I'll just declare it's completely useless and irrelevant. Second, I already knew I can't edit the page anymore, this is the reason I'm trying it in another way. But of course you already knew that. (Right???) Furthermore, you're bringing up another 'statement' which I've already reacted on; this one: "if you want to dispute it without pissing off the entire community, make it part of your user name space, and no one will (...) with the (...) thing again!!". My reaction was this: "As long as I try to be objective and place facts, I have a clean conscience. Why would I care what someone else thinks about that then? If you don't agree with them that is absolutely fine. For that there's an edit button and a talk page, oh, and a possibility to report people if needed.". I want to point out to you that in a debate, bringing up the same argument is very annoying, esspecially when someone has already reacted on it. Jews sometimes do this untill the Aryan gets tired of it. When the Aryan doesn't react anymore, then the Jew has won the debate. This is also a Tactic of Judas, like I said to Iscariot. However, it is also possible that your doubtfull IQ just wasn't able to understand it; judging from your previous replies you're not the smartest person in the world: as I said "you lack healthy thinking as well as clever speaking". Let me put it as a mathematical formula: "Pood_of_doom's IQ < 85". In my opinion this formula is very likely to be true.
I'm going to work out now. Physical strong, mentally healthy: Nazi's. Meine Ehre heisst Treue. --Cornholioo 15:02, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
I would especially work on your running skills. (sorry, i really had to make that joke) --zyckde 15:10, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Hehe. Well, that put a smile on my face, though. But as I told you; that's what guerilla war is like. Strike > withdraw > strike > withdraw > etc. --Cornholioo 8:58, 25 March 2010.
This is getting out of hand. Aren't there rules against personal attacks? Also, if anybody has a low IQ it would be you. Not only do you believe in what in reality is fiction (The "Aryan race", the whole Jewish conspiracy thing, et cetera et cetera), but you also have bad grammar, spelling and memory. For example, who is "Pood_of_doom"? If I have understood correctly, which I most likely have not due to this being really old information sorted somewhere deep inside my defect brain, IQ is mostly verbal, linguistic, logical and mathematical intelligence. So.. Infrastructure 15:32, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Why you just don't react on all the neonazi arguments and proof them wrong, rather than saying 'you are just stupid.'? Well, that is stupid! And I'm trying to speak English as correct as possible. I haven't grown up with it, though. I'm Dutch. And can I make typos? -,- I said he has a low IQ judging on the language he uses, bringing up useless arguments and now also brings up arguments I've already reacted on. I don't think he has a great ability of logical thinking. White regards, --Cornholioo 9:03, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
My god,.. you just don't get it do you? Nothing was objective,... that's why everyone threw a shit fit about everything you posted, why you're in arbitration with iscariot (edit war over shit that wasn't true (or objective)), why you're in arbitration here (about things not being objective, otherwise known as the NPOV), and why the page is now locked.... so, you want to make these "Objective" claims,.... you have a user space,... the more you refuse to listen, the more you look like a half retarded wanker. -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 22:42, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
You're dumb, officially. I'm not even saying why... -,- Cornholioo 9:07, 25 March 2010 (UTC)~
For the record: I've since long given up on trying to convince you people otherwise. You have a strong aversion for truth. Infrastructure 15:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Here comes another Tactic of Judas. In steat of properly reacting on my arguments, Judas says back exactly the same thing. Are you a Jew?--User:Cornholioo 12:28, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Just out of curiousity, cornholioo, is it safe to say that you appreciate Hitler, and his ideals, that you idolize him, and strive to be like him in every way? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 21:30, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
It is not. But still I am loyal to my ideals. Cornholioo 12:29, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Now we know your a liar... you just proved it... The post immediatly before, and after my post both seem to be in response to what I've said, yet both were made (according to timestamp) prior to mine.... hmmm? I bet the history shows you posted after me... trying to be objective again huh? -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 12:33, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Can I make a little mistake in the date? Go play in the sandbox kid. --Cornholioo 12:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Response to the wonderful question "Are you a Jew?": I'll go ahead and quote J.R.R. Tolkien. "... But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people." Infrastructure 16:01, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Goddamit, can someone ban this asshole already, he is an anti-semite holocaust denier. Wtf has al his whining to do with a zombie apocalypse game. It is the tactic of a troll to suck up our time. He has contributed nothing to the community but grief. I am ashamed to all those playing the game who have lost family over the war, and are reminded about it by this stupid fucker. Any decent game would have perma-banned his ass by now. --zyckde 12:42, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Zyckde, much as cornholioo is offensive he is still protected by freedom of speech. While admittedly he protests freedom of expression (See his Vandal case with Saromu) he is still protected by it. The only things you can nail him for at present are trolling (not exactly an uncommon occurrence on a wiki) and racism. You want him banned? Hit him from the racism angle, hell I'll help with that I'm getting a little annoyed with this one myself. Cornholioo, why do I get the feeling that your heart isn't really in this? -Devorac 17:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, now we have another arbitration case over the Battle of Krinks. The longer this drags along in limbo the more drama will form around it. As the only potential arbitrator to have not been shot down yet, I'd like to see this process either started or put to rest in a timely fashion. In that interest, I'd respectfully ask all parties to please keep the side debates to the talk page so we can focus on the task at hand. There's really only a couple of questions that matter: Devorac, do you wish to have an arbitration? If so, will you either confirm me as arbitrator or name a different candidate? Thanks :) --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 10:54, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Everything's going to be decided on my case Giles, this one's as good as dead. Devorac will not accept any arbitrator and the point of this case is null considering that both parties' versions are going to be overruled by mine when I win my case. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 14:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Counting your chickens already? If a fair standard can be established whereby everyone can contribute to the article without inciting edit wars, then another arby case would be unnecessary. Also, Devorac has yet to respond to my query, so I'll wait and see if I'm still needed.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:02, 23 March 2010 (UTC)


Previously on Arby's: If its not too late I'd like to be the Arbitatortot. I have a lot of experience with Arby's as I've been here many times. Their $5.01 deal is quite good and their Roast Spambeef sandwiches are delicious with Arby's Sauce. If you pick me I promise I will go extra hard on the person that I choose to lose. So if you want your opponent to get a weak slap on the wrist then pick one of the faggots above. They'll be too busy sucking major cock to properly lay the smack down. I, on the other hand, will go over the evidence and from that alone decide who lives and who dies. The decision will be fair, the punishment will not. So if you want top vanquish your enemy then choose me. Also, if you do not choose me you are admitting that you are also a faggot and give me permission to say so on my userpage. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 00:34, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

My offer still stands for this case too. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 00:36, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Giles, I apologize but I will not accept you as an Arbitrator. Sonny, I will neither deny nor accept your position as my arbitrator. My decision on whether to choose you as an arbitrator or not is postponed until there is a formal declaration that I have the largest penis in the known world signed by Jewel Staite and Co-signed by Morena Baccarin. -Devorac 00:17, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Good luck. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 00:57, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Okie dokie. Looks like I'm off the hook on this one.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 02:52, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

This is just a simple edit war...real-life implications aside. I offer to arbitrate this edit war, if only because I don't like seeing this huge thing clutter A/A.--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 19:14, 28 March 2010 (BST)

Refused, Sorry man. -Devorac 20:07, 28 March 2010 (BST)
I understand.--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 03:21, 29 March 2010 (BST)

Devorac has made it clear on his talk page that he has no intention of participating in this case, believing that is has been superceded by Iscariots case. As such it will be cycled within the next day. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:12, 29 March 2010 (BST)

Thanks Ross -Devorac 20:22, 29 March 2010 (BST)
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