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Jon Pyre vs Grim S

Grim has been using his moderator powers to unfairly remove my suggestions. I asked him nicely about the issue without any progress, you can probably fill yourself in on most of it by reading the discussion on his talk page. What I would like is Grim to not be able to use any mod powers in regards to suggestions I post. --Jon Pyre 17:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll arbitrate if you'll accept me. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 17:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

No offense, but your response to the initial complaint I made on Grim's board was "lol". You can understand why I might not want you on this one. --Jon Pyre 17:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I find most internet conflicts funny these days. I wasn't laughing at you specifically, and I can assure you I have no particular fondness for Grim. To put it bluntly, I don't like either of you. How can you get more unbiased than that? --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 17:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll also offer to arbitrate.--Karekmaps?! 17:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Although I think this is the wrong place for this, A/M is for misuse of sysop powers.--Karekmaps?! 17:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

If ou feel he is abusing his sysop powers, shouldnt you take him to misconduct?--'BPTmz 17:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

forgot to mention, I can arbitrate if you both wish.--'BPTmz 17:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I posted it to misconduct. --Jon Pyre 18:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh look. An arbitration case. I do not accept Cyberbob, nor do i accept BP. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 01:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Meanie. I don't think it matters in any case; it appears this has been abandoned in favour of the Misconduct case. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 01:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
He will be back when it fails. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 01:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Heh. You're probably right. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 01:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm available for arbitrator should Pyre come back around and rekindle the arby's romance.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

And i do not accept you. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 01:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Wise decision. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 01:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
fair enough. this whole thing is a circus anyway. hopefully whoever does become arbitor will just throw it out.--'BPTmz 07:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Will you accept me? I already know whats going on here and I assure you both that I will be scrupulously fair and will not make any ruling that goes beyond this case! --Honestmistake 01:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

He who would be my nemesis, offering to arbitrate? I sincerely hope this was done in jest. Not accepted. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 01:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Wasn't a jest... just thought a nice straightforward case would make a good first go! Still I know when I am not welcome ;)--Honestmistake 15:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

If this case is still here after a week, I'm willing to arbitrate. Although by then it will be solved, so....yeah... :) -- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 02:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I dont want you. You are too silly and i dont trust you to be fair. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 02:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. While I have no idea what makes you think I wouldn't be fair, I'm not going to try and convince you otherwise.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 02:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually, its quite simple. You are one of those people who would either rule against me partially or in whole just to look more popular and "even handed" instead of treating this case on its merits, of which it has none, and dismissing it. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 02:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I offer to arbitrate.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  02:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

lol --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 02:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
No, i dont think im quite insane enough for that. No. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 02:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and before he gets any funny ideas, Conndraka can fuck off. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 02:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I got a laugh out of that comment.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 02:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

*Carefully puts up his hand, not sure if he would be shouted-down by Grim or not*--Ducis DuxSlothTalk 07:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

No. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 07:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I offer to arbritrate, I don't know any of you so I think I would be fair.--Thekooks 11:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

No thanks. Way too new. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 11:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll do it. I've been here for ages so I'm not new, I have no beef with either of you so I'm impartial, plus I think I actually am the only Arbiter that Grim hasn't shot down. Yet. -- Cheeseman W!RandomTalk 18:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

No, i have no idea who you are, and thus cant trust you. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 23:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I offer myself to arbitrate. While my views are known, and if they aren't, here they are; I would strive to be fair to both parties regardless. --Ryiis 19:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but no. In case no one has noticed, im not interested in letting this case proceed given how badly i was fucked over with the last arb case i had. Given i cant decline arbitration, all i can do is shoot down all the arbitrators who offer themselves until everyone gets sick and tired of the case and it goes away. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 23:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


I'll offer to arbitrate. Having followed the case elsewhere, I can offer a one-time, pre-packaged insta-verdict: Grim will not sysop-spaminate any Jon's suggestion that has spent three or more days on Talk:Suggestions before going to voting. Restriction would be in place for a month. How about that? --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 00:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I much prefer the verdict offered by that charming gentleman, The Grimch: "Case Dismissed due to no real conflict existing, just one person doing his job, and another person whining about it". Since you have admitted you would do the stupid and wrong thing in this case and rule against me, i have to decline you. Here have this consolation prize. Keep it near you always. Oh, and its supposed to tick, dont worry about that. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 00:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
What's the worst that could happen? Jon starts using the talkpage, maybe even realizes he shouldn't put every suggestion to voting and you won't get to spaminate them anymore. If he doesn't use the talkpage, nothing changes. Oh well, it was worth a shot. Oh, and by the way, you haven't turned down karek's offer at the top yet. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 00:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


I humbly accept the seconding of my nomination by Nalikill. I will do the utmost to uphold the traditions of the page in my duty. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 00:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I volunteer to arbitrate this case. --Z. slay3r Talk  01:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but no thanks. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 09:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I offer to arbitrate, and I can give you my pre-made ruling now: "This case goes out the window and Grim is advised, but in no way bound to, think carefully before sysop spamminating suggestions.".--The General T Sys U! P! F! 10:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but no. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 10:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
OK, you don't want it thrown out?--The General T Sys U! P! F! 11:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, i want the case thrown out. I dont want it ruled on by anyone. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 11:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

"Grim has been using his moderator powers to unfairly remove my suggestions". I think we can all agree that arbitration is not the place to take Sysops when they misuse their powers (whether Grim has or not is completly irrelevant). Arbitration is the place to solve edit conflicts (and it seems personal conflicts these days as well). I'll archive this in 24 hours because, plain and simple, this is not in the appropiate place. - If Jedaz = 11:13, 6 January 2008 (BST) then pi = 2 + 1

He took it to misconduct shortly after creating this, and subsequently lost. The case has been archived. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 11:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Wow, Jedaz. That was an amazing entrance. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 12:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
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