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Poodle of Doom versus DanceDanceRevolution

Personally, I'm only here on a limited basis. I'm just trying to get by, and do my thing. I made a goof of some sort, and attempted to remedy it. I'd appreciate not being antagonized. I can tolerate some comments made in jest. However, I'd prefer that the provocation stop. I know that this will never be a reality, due to an inability to enforce any sort of mandate on such a thing. I am, however, seeking arbitration, as I doubt it will stop through my asking. I refuse to consent to it, and I am hoping something can be worked out via our mutual aggreement with an arbitrator. -Poodle of DoomT*C 00:41, 24 September 2011 (BST)

I volunteer to arbitrate.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:56, 24 September 2011 (BST)

I'm not attempting to be difficult, or make this process in any way ineffctive, however I'd ask one simple thing. Could I ask that you provide a few examples of times in recent history in which you arbitrated? I'm not looking for anything in particular, and relevance to this request is not necessary. -Poodle of DoomT*C 01:02, 24 September 2011 (BST)
I'm curious, why does his IT BEGINS warrant harrasment in your opinion? Because from here it seems pretty harmless. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 01:04, 24 September 2011 (BST)
It's a reference to the mass deletions that I set up on my way out the door the last time. DDR created a group with the same Acronym as mine at the time, and turned the redirect to the group into a disambugious page. Basically, I asked about this, and if I could still use the page, as there were minor differences between the acronym my group used, and his. Basically, it was EVIL for my group, and E.V.I.L for his. None the less, when I couldn't use it soley for my puposes, I decided to leave for a while and take some time of. In the mean time, I took the (over)500 pages of my group, and placed them up for speedy deletion, which is what they're playing at. That said, there's been some mocking in the past. But I digress, I may or may not of earned the one I just referenced. I'm not exactly remembering how that one came about. None the less, on my way out, DDR was one of a few who I had a problem with. But at this point, I'm getting off topic. -Poodle of DoomT*C 02:26, 24 September 2011 (BST)
Not really, it's about your guy's personal history then it's relevant.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 01:41, 25 September 2011 (BST)
Bearing in mind how few arbitration cases there actually are, I have two with: Corn v Mis and ZL v Bobbobo.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:16, 24 September 2011 (BST)
With all due respect intended, I'd like to hold off on officially accepting, or denying you for the moment. I'd like to weigh in on other options for the time being. -Poodle of DoomT*C 03:01, 24 September 2011 (BST)
I think I'm willing to accept you, and I'm not sure if DDR will be coming or not. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:59, 27 September 2011 (BST)

I have an even better idea! How about you get over it? -- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 06:56, 24 September 2011 (BST)

Uncalled for, and unconstructive. Great. -Poodle of DoomT*C 06:58, 24 September 2011 (BST)

I'll do it. --Hey Sweden! 07:06, 24 September 2011 (BST)

I appreciate the offer, but I respectfully decline. Thanks for the offer. -Poodle of DoomT*C 16:04, 24 September 2011 (BST)

As I think that you both are schmucks, I consider myself perfectly neutral for these arbies. -- Spiderzed 19:04, 24 September 2011 (BST)

As much as I'd like to decline, I'd like to ask you the same general question as I have Yonnua. Could I ask that you provide a few examples of times in recent history in which you arbitrated? I'm not looking for anything in particular, and relevance to this request is not necessary. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:10, 26 September 2011 (BST)
Had offered to in some of the relatively recent ones, but wasn't picked. If recent arbitration is key to you, go to Karek, he has arbitrated the most recent Cobra case. -- Spiderzed 18:11, 26 September 2011 (BST)
It's not that it's key, but I would like to pick someone I think I could level with, and who seems fair. Could you link to a couple that you offered to arbitrate in? -Poodle of DoomT*C 18:25, 26 September 2011 (BST)
RTFArchive -- Spiderzed 18:27, 26 September 2011 (BST)
I respect your position in the cases I have reviewed, however, I wish to respectfully decline. I do appreciate your involvement. -Poodle of DoomT*C 19:54, 26 September 2011 (BST)

I've caught myself up on the history of this and, actually, am willing to throw my hat in since it seems like I'm the most neutral either of you will get here. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 01:40, 25 September 2011 (BST)

Same as above, could I ask that you provide a few examples of times in recent history in which you arbitrated? I'm not looking for anything in particular, and relevance to this request is not necessary. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:10, 26 September 2011 (BST)
I'll have to say the same as spiderzed because I can't copy and paste with ease on the phone. Suffice it to say though I have plenty of experience with arbitration in addition to being a sysop for a very long time and dealing with disputes there that would have escalated significantly without my involvmement. My prolongued absence during your dispute with DDR and others guarantees I don't have preset notions about you. Ultimately it's up to you though. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:13, 27 September 2011 (BST)
I'm actually willing to accept you. On a related note, I've also expressed a willingness to accept Yonnua. Should both of you be willing to take this on, would you be willing to possibly work togethor on this, and coarbitrate? -Poodle of DoomT*C 00:28, 28 September 2011 (BST)
No.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:55, 28 September 2011 (BST)
My first preference would be to Karek then. If DDR should decline, I will accept Yonnua. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:17, 28 September 2011 (BST)

I've made sure DDR knew that this was happening, and he doesn't seem enthused with it, nor does he seem inclined to participate. I'm not exactly sure at this point what could be done, or how to go about doing it. None the less, as I've expressed to DDR, I feel as if this is the best course of action regardless of outcome, and may diffuse some tension going forward. -Poodle of DoomT*C 17:56, 26 September 2011 (BST)

Do yourself a huge favor and drop the case. Yes, you can continue the case, even without DDR, by starting to accept an Arbiter. But don't. You have talked it out with him on his talk page, now move on. Simples.-- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 18:09, 26 September 2011 (BST)
I don't believe it's that simple acutally. I honestly don't believe that this was anything shy of a jab at me. And if I don't do anything about it, it'll never quit. That said, if I simply select an arbitrator, it's on? -Poodle of DoomT*C 18:13, 26 September 2011 (BST)

I offer. You shall both lose this arbitration as I will use it as an excuse to amuse myself (and quite possibly only myself). It will not be something enjoyable for either party. But it will be fair. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 22:42, 26 September 2011 (BST)

Like what? -Poodle of DoomT*C 23:23, 26 September 2011 (BST)
It won't be like what. It'll be exactly what. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 05:01, 27 September 2011 (BST)
I simply decline. -Poodle of DoomT*C 05:05, 27 September 2011 (BST)
It would need to be simple. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 05:10, 27 September 2011 (BST)
you guys really are stupid cunts.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 13:38, 28 September 2011 (bst)
I concur. ~Vsig.png 14:32, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Mis was my only choice but Spoodle declined him. Since Karek is a jaded biased subbie bellend I'll go with Poodle's second choice Yonnua. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 04:45, 28 September 2011 (BST)

Good enough for me. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:52, 28 September 2011 (BST)
Sure. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 19:00, 28 September 2011 (BST)
Don't worry, Karek. Your time shall come.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:21, 28 September 2011 (BST)

Opening Statements

Poodle and DDR can each feel free to make a brief statement here summarising their case and what they want out of this arbitration. But keep it brief.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:56, 28 September 2011 (BST)

DanceDanceRevolution

Might as well just lay down my opinion quickly.

OK, well, Poodle is an idiot and takes things too seriously.

That is all. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 02:09, 29 September 2011 (BST)


Poodle of Doom

No ones going to look at the fact the DDR's comments have nothing to do with any sort of Administrative duties, or that they were a direct reference to things that have happened from years gone by. No one will sense any form of hostility, or the fact that there's a certain line that's been crossed. No one will admit that this is a ploy to run people off the wiki. In fact, I doubt that this will go any farther than the opening statements, so I'm just going to sum everything up by saying a single word. Bitchcakes. -Poodle of DoomT*C 17:39, 29 September 2011 (BST)

Supplementary Evidence

This case is obviously a lot more important than we at first thought. From Poodles opening statement I can see that this goes to the heart of the UDwiki community, and more specifically, the bias and corruption which so many before have complained about. The wiki Cabal which has been in place since 2005 must be dealt with, and unless it is done so now, I feel that there might not be any way to fix what is now a dying community. If the community dies, the game dies, so it has fallen now to us, today, to deal with the infestation that has struck to the heart of Urbandead. In this case, we need to set out the future of the community. As this case revolves around such an enormous problem, I see it as a given that other members of the community will be needed to give input. Hence, I shall call upon members of the community one by one to give evidence in the form of short statements on both this specific matter and on the stench of UDwiki corruption in general.

The first person I call to the stand is none other than a psyop lackey who has long perverted the course of justice to further a dark agenda of his own. But this agenda itself is a dark form of justice... The only thing certain about this crook is that he is most, most dark... I call to the stand, the honourable Judge Karke!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:16, 29 September 2011 (BST)

Karek's Statement

DDR is a meany and made hugnat cry, burn the witch? --Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:23, 29 September 2011 (BST)


In light of the statement made by Karek, I feel it is necessary to further explore the Hagnat crying incident, to establish a more solid perception of character. In the meantime, I shall also open a new line of investigation. The inquisition brigade calls Misanthropy to the stand!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:08, 30 September 2011 (BST)

Hagnat's statement

i cannot say anything bad against DDR... or i get the hose again ;_; --hagnat 02:02, 30 September 2011 (BST)

Misanthropy's statement

BEWARE.
I LIVE
I HUNGER
RUN. RUN. RUN.
Oh. Yeah. You guys both suck balls. I demand private email addresses and one (1) Powers and brown from each party. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 01:22, 30 September 2011 (BST)

Based on these last two statements, I have further enquiries to pursue. First off, based on Misanthropy's statements, it feels necessary for us to have some more brief thoughts by poodle. More importantly, however, this Hagnat character seems to be a shady fellow, and I'll need some background on him before we continue. I call to the stand.... AKULE!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:56, 30 September 2011 (BST)

This hagnat fellow is really suspicious n'deed --Fuinha 20:36, 3 October 2011 (BST)

Poodle's Supplementary statements

Poodle, if you have any comments on what's happened so far, post them here.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:56, 30 September 2011 (BST)

Background on Hagnat

Akule should feel free to post a brief (but not too brief) history of Hagnat's UDwiki career below this heading.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:56, 30 September 2011 (BST)

OBJECTION!!!1!! I never gave anyone permission to discuss my career here in the wiki. Some of it are state secret now --hagnat 02:04, 1 October 2011 (BST)
You uploaded it to the wiki, so... --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 18:05, 1 October 2011 (BST)

Hagnat Quote.png

There you go. A brief history of Hagnat's UDWiki career. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 18:05, 1 October 2011 (BST)

The page hits on your image do not match the page hits on the userpage it seeks to imitate. On that basis, this is clear forgery. --  AHLGTG 16:29, 2 October 2011 (BST)
Also i am way better looking than this freak you have in your supposed screen. I call shennigangs --hagnat 23:19, 2 October 2011 (BST)
Also... why de fuck do u have my user page in your watch list ? õ_O --hagnat 23:20, 2 October 2011 (BST)
How'd you know that? And I have 4,506 other pages on my watchlist, so you're nothing special. You make up 0.00022% of my wiki observation. --  AHLGTG 23:50, 2 October 2011 (BST)
I was referring to Akule... as you can see in the Screenshot he posted... also, ur a fucking little stalker, right ? --hagnat 01:02, 3 October 2011 (BST)
No, I'm A Helpful Little Gnome...--  AHLGTG 01:54, 3 October 2011 (BST)
I never uncheck the little box that states "Watch this page" whenever I edit a page (such as when I edited your talk page). Mainly because I am lazy. I'm sure there is some setting to make it so that it is not default checked, however, that would mean that I would have to check a box when I wanted to watch a page. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 05:59, 3 October 2011 (BST)

Hahaha Akule loves hagant. Hangnat and akule, sitting in a tree. ~Vsig.png 05:04, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Eating out your brains, setting your eye balls free --hagnat 13:31, 3 October 2011 (BST)

Karloth's Statement

I'd like to open by thanking the Wiki Admin Team for putting me in charge of this case. As both of the aggrieved parties are known to me personally, I'd ideally like to talk it over with them. It's a real shame about the restraining orders, however, so we'll need to type this out.

Misanthropy, have you anything to say in your defence? --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 14:10, 1 October 2011 (BST)

I did it. Oh Jesus God I did it. I killed her. The blood... Oh mother of God the blood. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 19:19, 2 October 2011 (BST)
Objection!.gif I object! That was...Objectionable! --Miles Edgeworth 19:40, 2 October 2011 (BST)
That was... unexpected. He was only accused of stealing the red stapler :| --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 20:13, 3 October 2011 (BST)
I would like to advise Karloth that he has only been granted permission to make a statement, not to take over the case. The evidence he has provided however has been most helpful, and has shown me where we need to go with this...
I call Grim s to the stand!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:31, 2 October 2011 (BST)
Thankyou Yon! I'm deliberating and will deliver a verdict soon. --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 16:23, 2 October 2011 (BST)

Grim's statement

Anticipating that grim shall not be willing to make his own statement, I shall have a guess at what he might say if he was here:

"Fuck you."

Very interesting, Grim, very interesting...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:31, 2 October 2011 (BST)

Sorry for the brief delay, I needed to wipe my window because it was clogged up by water. Naturally, this was a conspiracy to prevent me from continuing with this case. The high inquisition calls Vapor to the stand!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:34, 2 October 2011 (BST)
Objection!.gif Vapor isn't fit to deliver a statement at this time! He's still far too drunk from the current Pub Crawl! --Phoenix Wright 16:27, 2 October 2011 (BST)

Objection!.gif Interlocutor grievously misrepresents the witness! C'mon, this is Grim we're talking about: Mr Text-Wall himself. He'd be far more long-winded and loquacious than that. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 13:05, 13 October 2011 (BST)

yes. it would distill down to fuck you and the horse you rode in on The Grimch 13:07, 13 October 2011 (BST)

Vapor's Statement

whenthegoingetstoughfromthegetgogomango ohbrothernotanothermotherfuckergottagonow. ~Vsig.png 17:05, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Objection!.gif The witness is speaking in gibberish and not making any sense! I request that the witness's statement be stricken from the record! --Phoenix Wright 17:11, 2 October 2011 (BST)
Objection!.gif This man is clearly not a lawyer--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 20:34, 2 October 2011 (BST)

DDR's supplementary Statements

Poodle of doom said:
No one will admit that this is a ploy to run people off the wiki.

How do you know if this is a ploy or not, Mr. Doom? Unless you yourself are the one who is behind this ploy, there is no reason why you should know of such a ploy that will run people off this wiki! And if that really is the case, then you, sir, would have just admitted that this is a ploy, thus contradicting your statement stating that no one will admit it! --Phoenix Wright 00:22, 3 October 2011 (BST)

DDR's actual supplementary statement

I have to say I am disappointed by all of you for interfering with a completely serious and worthwhile arbitration case which both participants intended on following theogh to the end.

And poodle can lick my flaccid dong. Lap it up dog. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 10:24, 3 October 2011 (BST)

Axe Hack's Statement

I demand a statement from Axe Hack. Anybody else editing this page other than himself or myself or DDR or Poodle may not do so and will be dealt with accordingly if they do.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:19, 2 October 2011 (BST)

dealt how ? --hagnat 23:22, 2 October 2011 (BST)
Candle Manning--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:08, 3 October 2011 (BST)

A statement. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:50, 2 October 2011 (BST)

Now some supplementary statements for DDR so that we can continue.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:08, 3 October 2011 (BST)
I am preparing a suppository for DDR as I type. --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 20:07, 3 October 2011 (BST)

Inquisition Question Round

In this part of arbitration, I shall call forth members of the community to answer specific questions regarding the case. During this period, only the parties and representatives (and me) may respond to the points being made by the questioned people. If these people refuse to answer, then I shall guess upon their answers and answer for them. First up is further questioning for... Karek!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:39, 3 October 2011 (BST)

why does this shit always happen when i step away for a few days. fuck this wiki. and puddle is still and always will be a shit head.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 18:59, 4 October 2011 (bst)

Questions for Karek

Karek, you speak much about the burning of witches. Indeed, a good 50% of your statement concerned the burning of witches. I demand now the names of five witches and wizards in need of burning upon this fair wiki.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:39, 3 October 2011 (BST)

As Karek has not answered, I am forced to guess at his response. My guess is as follows:
"You'll never get the information out of me! Never! Wait... what's that? No! NO! ANYTHING BUT AN EVENING WITH CYBERBOB! Please, I'll talk, I'll talk! The witches that need burning are Amazing, 3pwv, Iscariot, Boxy and Nubis! JUST DON'T LEAVE ME ALONE WITH CYBERBOB!"
Interesting testimony, Karek. Very interesting indeed. Now for some questions for these so called "Witches".--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:48, 4 October 2011 (BST)

Questions for Amazing

  • How did you come to be a witch?
Because your mother. -- ™ & © Amazing, INC. All rights reserved. Replying constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. 19:27, 8 October 2011 (BST)
  • What is your part in this terrible wiki destroying conspiracy?
Executive treasurer. -- ™ & © Amazing, INC. All rights reserved. Replying constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. 19:27, 8 October 2011 (BST)
  • Pepsi or coke?
Infant blood. -- ™ & © Amazing, INC. All rights reserved. Replying constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. 19:27, 8 October 2011 (BST)

Questions for 3pwv

  • How did you come to be a witch?
  • What is your part in this terrible wiki destroying conspiracy?
  • Pepsi or coke?
  • What is your favourite colour?

Questions for Iscariot

  • How did you come to be a witch?
  • What is your part in this terrible wiki destroying conspiracy?
  • Pepsi or coke?

Questions for Boxy

  • How did you come to be a witch?
  • What is your part in this terrible wiki destroying conspiracy?
  • Pepsi or coke?

Questions for Nubis

  • How did you come to be a witch?
  • What is your part in this terrible wiki destroying conspiracy?
  • Pepsi or coke?

Yonnua's Ruling

It has come to my attention that this case is dying, and, as it concerns a serious matter, I shall make my ruling to give some closure on the matter. It is evident from the evidence given, particularly in the long and tiring inquisition round, that the wiki is subject to bias and misrule, and that the only person to blame for this is Iscariot. As such, he must be dealt with accordingly. My ruling is as follows:

  • A Bureaucrat Administrator must as soon as possible promote User:Nubis to the position of system operator.
  • User:Nubis must then administer to User:Iscariot a ban of one (1) week. User:Nubis is then to be demoted.
  • All active system operators must defend the actions of User:Nubis and the legitimacy of the ban, despite whatever opposition may arise.
  • Users DanceDanceRevolution and Template:SUBST must make up and promise to be bestest fwends forever more.
  • A picture of a fluffyduck must be placed upon the Main Page of the UrbanDead Wiki for a sum total of twenty-four (24) hours. This must be enacted by a system operator at the nearest convenience.

This is my ruling. So is it written, so may it be done.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:29, 6 October 2011 (BST)


I solemnly swear that I will be best friends forever with the Template:SUBST. I'm sorry Subst for any anonymity between us. I also completely accept this ruling. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 03:30, 7 October 2011 (BST)

As an affected party (the duck on the main page hurts my eyes and sensibility), I reject the ruling on the grounds that I was not informed of a case involving me. I also move that Yonnua be deposed as arbitrator for the case on the grounds that he engaged in gross incompetence, and that he be replaced in his role as arbitrator by an image of monkeys preening for the duration of the case, which would then immediately conclude with no resolution. All in favor, please indicate your approval by making an edit anywhere on the wiki. Those who disagree, please refrain from editing the wiki. Aichon 08:15, 8 October 2011 (BST)

Despite the enormous show of confidence in me from the thousands of contributors not editing, I feel that it is only right that I stand down as arbitrator. However, rather than handing over to Monkeys Preening, I instead hand over the rest of jurisdiction of the case to my close personal friend, MrSuggestor.
Please continue, MrSuggestor.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:16, 8 October 2011 (BST)
The Computer Scientist in me wants to point out the logical fallacy in your first sentence. The rest of me is reminding the Computer Scientist in me that logic has nothing to do with anything happening here. Aichon 06:39, 9 October 2011 (BST)


POOdle of doom has not responded to accept the ruling of the case. this displeases me DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:50, 12 October 2011 (BST)

I don't know what MrSuggestor would say about this, but I say we hold an emergency sysop vote on whether or not to enforce the ruling upon him.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:58, 12 October 2011 (BST)
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