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Anti-Umbrella

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD. Appears I was wrong at this point. Unless controversy uproars, will put further requests under crit 1 in SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Delete- Vantar 00:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - I thought Crit 12 was removed?--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Delete - Checking his contributions, it appears that this page's sole author left the wiki almost two months ago. --Toejam 03:01, 19 December 2007 (UTC) NB Deleting pages doesn't save space on the server, even deleted pages are stored just in case they need to be undeleted.
  5. Delete --Ryiis 14:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. --Z. slay3r Talk  16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Speedydelete - crit 1, created in half an hour, and not touched since. No links to or from -- boxy talki 01:15 21 December 2007 (BST)
  8. Speedydelete - crit 1, as per boxy --WanYao 09:25, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Delete - i didn't see anything worthy to keep there --~~~~ [talk] 20:17, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -- boxy talki 10:22 4 January 2008 (BST)

Anti-Craskers

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Delete- Vantar 00:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - I thought Crit 12 was removed?--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Delete -Ryiis 14:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Delete - Abandoned group. --Z. slay3r Talk  16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Keep - Crit 12 was deleted for a reason, don't delete groups.--Karekmaps?! 18:26, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Speedydelete - crit 1, no links, not much content, gorn -- boxy talki 01:14 21 December 2007 (BST)
  8. Delete - Namespace pollution is bad. --Tumu 18:50, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Delete - one person that didn't actually do anything significant --~~~~ [talk] 20:19, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
    Since when does Number of members change the validity of a group? --Karekmaps?! 06:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -- boxy talki 10:22 4 January 2008 (BST)

Anti-D.A.R.I.S

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Delete- Vantar 00:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Delete --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 01:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Keep - I thought Crit 12 was removed?--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Delete --Ryiis 14:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Delete - Abandoned group. --Z. slay3r Talk  16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Keep - Crit 12 was deleted for a reason, don't delete groups.--Karekmaps?! 18:26, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Keep - Group page with content and links -- boxy talki 01:12 21 December 2007 (BST)
  9. Keep - Content filled.--Thekooks 17:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  10. Delete - Namespace pollution is bad. --Tumu 18:50, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  11. Keep - content filled --WanYao 09:21, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  12. Keep - ths one looks like a valid anti-somegroup page --~~~~ [talk] 20:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Kept -- boxy talki 10:22 4 January 2008 (BST)

Amazing Duo and Company

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Delete- Vantar 00:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - I thought Crit 12 was removed?--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Delete --Ryiis 14:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. --Z. slay3r Talk  16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Keep - minimal content and not that old -- boxy talki 01:10 21 December 2007 (BST)
  7. Keep As boxy--Thekooks 17:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Delete - Namespace pollution is bad. --Tumu 18:51, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Keep - as per boxy --WanYao 09:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  10. Delete - i didn't see anything worthy to keep there --~~~~ [talk] 20:22, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -- boxy talki 10:22 4 January 2008 (BST)

Alpha Zombie Hunger Force

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Delete- Vantar 00:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - I thought Crit 12 was removed?--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Delete --Ryiis 14:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Delete - Abandoned group. --Z. slay3r Talk  16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Keep - Crit 12 was deleted for a reason, don't delete groups.--Karekmaps?! 18:26, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Delete - one edit, 6 months ago, minimal content, only linked from a single talk page -- boxy talki 01:09 21 December 2007 (BST)
  8. Keep - unlike other group pagews for deletion, there is actual content here... --WanYao 09:19, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Delete - i didn't see anything worthy to keep there --~~~~ [talk] 20:24, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -- boxy talki 10:22 4 January 2008 (BST)

Bantown

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  18:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Keep - Do Not Delete Disbanded Groups. Crit 12 was absolved.--Karekmaps?! 00:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
    That just means they can't be speedydeleted... nothing to do with this page, so give it a rest already -- boxy talki 01:31 21 December 2007 (BST)
    Totally, it's removal from an SD category means nothing. Groups are wiki history, deleting them because they are gone is the same as deleting location blocks that don't see use. --Karekmaps?! 01:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
    Bullshit, underused locationblocks may be used in the future, and provide a method of navigating the wiki. There are heaps of group pages created each and every day on this wiki, a large percentage of those groups never do anything of any note whatsoever... those are the ones I vote delete on. They're just taking up a namespace with a lame stub page that someone else may want to use in the future -- boxy talki 05:21 21 December 2007 (BST)
    So may the group page, yeah lots of groups are made(although not near as many as you seem to be claiming), Just because you don't think a group matters or has done enough doesn't mean they should be deleted whenever a person doesn't update the wiki page for a month or three. If it's namespace usage you're concerned about there are policies that can be made to deal with that(Like maybe a groups namespace). Oh, and not every groups frequents the wiki. For a group page that actually was a group page I'm gonna keep voting keep unless you can come up with a better reason to wipe all reference to a group(that you don't know is gone/active) or show the authors permission.--Karekmaps?! 06:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
    Look, I'm not saying that because a group page hasn't been edited for a month, it should automatically be deleted... but there are heaps of "throw away" groups created each week on this wiki, groups that never get past a couple of members. I've no problem with you (or others) voting keep on groups you think worthy of staying on the wiki... but using "crit 12 is dead" as a justification is totally lame, given that crit 12 is a speedydelete criteria, and this is the deletions page... any page is eligible for deletion, A/SD criteria don't come into it -- boxy talki 13:06 22 December 2007 (BST)
    I use crit 12 is dead because of how crit 12 died. --Karekmaps?! 20:35, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Delete - Crit 1. No content, really. Author appears to be inactive. It's not going anywhere.--  AHLGTG 00:38, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Delete - One update to add categories, otherwise it's a page with an image on it, no links to or from the page -- boxy talki 01:31 21 December 2007 (BST)
  5. Delete - As AHLG --Ryiis 14:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Keep - Is this even a vote?--Thekooks 17:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Delete - no content --~~~~ [talk] 13:16, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Keep Groups shouldn't ever be deleted.--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 13:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Delete - Until there is some way to place these groups in some sort of "disbanded groups" category these pages need to be deleted. They clutter up the groups page, to start with and cause a bit of a headache if you're looking for something in particular.--SeventythreeTalk 13:40, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  10. Delete - no content --WanYao 09:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  11. Delete - No content remotely approaching useful.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
  12. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. --Z. slay3r Talk  21:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted - Vantar 01:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

B-B-B I-R-C

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  18:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Keep - If anything move it to an NMC subpage, but keep it. It's technically historical and has to do with both the NMC and the Battle of Blackmore.--Karekmaps?! 00:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - Content filled. --  AHLGTG 00:41, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Keep -- boxy talki 01:25 21 December 2007 (BST)
  5. Keep -Ryiis 14:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. keep --Thekooks 17:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Keep Groups shouldn't ever be deleted.--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 13:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Delete - Namespace pollution is bad. --Tumu 18:47, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Keep - and move to subpage of MNC or BBB. --WanYao 09:04, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  10. Keep and move to sub-page of NMC --~~~~ [talk] 20:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  11. Keep/Merge - with the NMC. --Z. slay3r Talk  21:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Kept - Vantar 01:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Army of The People

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  18:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Keep - Do Not Delete Disbanded Groups. Crit 12 was absolved.--Karekmaps?! 00:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - Content filled, no crit 12. --  AHLGTG 00:41, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Delete - seems to be a one person army, that didn't do anything (check the news section) -- boxy talki 01:23 21 December 2007 (BST)
  5. Delete - as Boxy --Ryiis 14:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Keep - Lol? --Thekooks 17:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Keep Groups shouldn't ever be deleted.--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 13:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Delete - Namespace pollution is bad. --Tumu 18:47, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Delete - one person that didn't actually do anything --~~~~ [talk] 20:14, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  10. Delete - Abandoned group. --Z. slay3r Talk  21:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted - Vantar 01:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous/recruit

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  18:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Keep - Do Not Delete Disbanded Groups Subpages. Crit 12 was absolved. Also not a disbanded group, read next header.--Karekmaps?! 00:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - with below -- boxy talki 01:19 21 December 2007 (BST)]
  4. Keep - subpage of below --Ryiis 14:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Keep As above --Thekooks 17:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Keep Groups shouldn't ever be deleted.--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 13:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Keep - subpage of active group. --WanYao 09:24, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Keep - Still active. --Z. slay3r Talk  21:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Kept - Vantar 01:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  18:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Keep - Do Not Delete Disbanded Groups. Crit 12 was absolved. Ignoring that, it's still active--Karekmaps?! 00:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - new -- boxy talki 01:18 21 December 2007 (BST)
  4. Keep - As Karek --Ryiis 14:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Keep - As Ryiis--Thekooks 17:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Keep Groups shouldn't ever be deleted.--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 13:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Keep - still active, punks. --WanYao 09:09, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Keep - Still active. --Z. slay3r Talk  21:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Kept - Vantar 01:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Animal Liberation Front

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  18:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Keep - Do Not Delete Disbanded Groups. Crit 12 was absolved.--Karekmaps?! 00:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - meh -- boxy talki 01:17 21 December 2007 (BST)
  4. Delete - Nearly 4 months without an edit, and pretty much just the template and a couple paragraphs --Ryiis 14:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Keep Groups shouldn't ever be deleted.--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 13:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Delete - Namespace pollution is bad. --Tumu 18:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Keep - they were still active only a couple of months ago. --WanYao 09:23, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Delete - i didn't see anything worthy to keep there --~~~~ [talk] 20:15, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Delete As Nali. Omega 21:31, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  10. Delete - Abandoned group. --Z. slay3r Talk  21:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted - Vantar 01:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Agency X

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. SpeedyDelete - Crit 1. Hasn't been updated since October, and almost no content --Ryiis 23:34, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Delete- Vantar 00:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Keep - I thought Crit 12 was removed?--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
    Did you even fucking look at the page? -- boxy talki 01:07 21 December 2007 (BST)
  5. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. --Z. slay3r Talk  16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Speedydelete - crit 1 -- boxy talki 01:07 21 December 2007 (BST)
  7. Speedydelete - crit 1 --WanYao 09:17, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -- boxy talki 10:22 4 January 2008 (BST)

Ackland Resistance

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. SpeedyDelete - Crit 1. Hasn't been updated since September and has little content --Ryiis 23:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Delete- Vantar 00:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Keep - I thought Crit 12 was removed?--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
    Did you even look at the page? -- boxy talki 01:06 21 December 2007 (BST)
  5. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. --Z. slay3r Talk  16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Speedydelete - crit 1 -- boxy talki 01:06 21 December 2007 (BST)
  7. Delete - pragmatically there is no content; technically there is... will change to keep if it is updated --WanYao 09:17, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -- boxy talki 10:22 4 January 2008 (BST)

A.M.Z.

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:26, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. SpeedyDelete - Crit 1. Hasn't been updated since October --Ryiis 23:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Delete- Vantar 00:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Keep - I thought Crit 12 was removed?--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
    Did you even look at the page? -- boxy talki 01:04 21 December 2007 (BST)
  5. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. --Z. slay3r Talk  16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Speedydelete - crit 1 -- boxy talki 01:04 21 December 2007 (BST)
  7. Delete - effectively no-content. will change vote if updated --WanYao 09:16, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Speedy Delete - Crit 1.--Karekmaps?! 12:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Delete --~~~~ [talk] 20:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -- boxy talki 10:22 4 January 2008 (BST)

Anti dunnell hills police department group

Hm. Looks to be abandoned attempt at starting a group.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:23, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Delete - Less than seven days old, so if page gets updated, will change my vote too --Ryiis 23:35, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Delete --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 23:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Delete- Vantar 00:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Keep - I thought Crit 12 was removed?--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Delete - Abandoned group. --Z. slay3r Talk  16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Delete - one of about half a dozen "groups" created by a vandal in the last week or so -- boxy talki 01:02 21 December 2007 (BST)
  8. Delete - as per nali. --WanYao 09:15, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted -- boxy talki 10:22 4 January 2008 (BST)

The McMahon Motel

This page references the McMahon Hotel in Shearbank, and so the name of the page is incorrect. It also duplicates information in the Shearbank Hotels page. --Frozen Flame 05:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

  1. SpeedyDelete - Crit 1: no content, dupelicate --~~~~ [talk] 09:47, 16 December 2007 (UTC)Keep and change to redirect --~~~~ [talk] 14:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
    Taking in account information below, I'm still keeping this my vote. There's still no info on this page and the bit on Shearbank Hotels can be renamed (what was already done) --~~~~ [talk] 12:33, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
    Then it should be turned into a redirect to the merged page rather than deleted -- boxy talki 12:41 16 December 2007 (BST)
    sure --~~~~ [talk] 14:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Speedy Delete Keep - Crit 1, but only because the name is wrong.--Karekmaps?! 11:33, 16 December 2007 (UTC) Changed vote, Shearbank Hotels should be a portal to all the Hotel's own pages, not the page with the information.--Karekmaps?! 12:24, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
    The purpose of all the information being on the Shearbank Hotels page is to reduce the number of stubs in the wiki as per the Location Style Guide. These pages are very unlikely to have more than one or two news items, if any. Also, making the Shearbank Hotels page a portal by adding links to all of the names breaks the redirect, which redirects to the entry in the Shearbank Hotels page. It in effect creates a redirect loop which drops the user at the top of the Shearbank Hotels page rather than at the individual entry.--Frozen Flame 20:42, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
    Wiki's are about completeness of information, the portal is a great thing to have so it can make it easier to find the info but, forcing the info to be on that page detracts from the page's usefulness and limits the amount of information about the building that can ever exist.--Karekmaps?! 17:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
    To reiterate, the merge page is to reduce stubs. Not a single one of those hotel stubs have any information beyond barricade policy and 9 block map. As outlined in the Location Style Guide, when and if (certainly in this case "if" is more appropriate) the entry outgrows the merge page it can be broken out to it's own page. Turning merge pages into portals results in unnecessary and confusing duplication. --FrozenFlame 17:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
    I have a thing out against merge pages in general, at least stubs request information, merge pages purposely limit it and that keeps the pages from being expanded in the first place.--Karekmaps?! 18:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - It's Motel, not Hotel according to this map, and this -- boxy talki 11:42 16 December 2007 (BST)
    You sure those are right, I wasn't aware there was a Motel building type in the game.--Karekmaps?! 12:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
    Oh yeah. About half and half hotels to motels (at a guess), but they're all placed in the hotels category -- boxy talki 12:13 16 December 2007 (BST)
    In that case . . .--Karekmaps?! 12:24, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
    My apologies, I looked at the Shearbank suburb map in the wiki and neglected to look at other sources. The page for the McMahon Hotel already has a redirect to the Shearbank Hotels page. --Frozen Flame 20:42, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Keep - My work-around for the 'motels' and 'hotels' has been redirects. Boxy actually suggested it to me when I first came to the wiki doing 9-block templates the old-fashioned way. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 13:19, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
    So a redirect should be made for both, regardless of whether it's misnamed as a hotel/motel? --Frozen Flame 20:42, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Keep - And redirect to Shearbank Hotels. --Z. slay3r Talk  16:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Keep - yes there are motels. and there is content here. --WanYao 09:14, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Kept - and as there is more content on this page, than on the merged hotels page, I'll leave it, and link from there, to the individual page -- boxy talki 23:33 31 December 2007 (BST)

Project UnWelcome

I DO realize that this was made in jest but this sends the ultimate bad message to new members in our community, but if that aint good enough chalk it up to spam as it is not on topic UD being that nothing is accomplished there. Omega 01:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

  1. Keep The NPOV section right there on the top answers objection number one, and it's as on-topic as its more serious counterpart. Besides, it's ironic that the very mentality that would want to see this deleted is probably the mentality this page is parodying. --Vandr 15:13, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Keep - no u --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 15:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - Jokes are funny, Vendettas are not.--Karekmaps?! 15:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Keep - The page is only a satire of Project Welcome. --Z. slay3r Talk  17:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Keep - It's staying, period. Wiki history or whatever. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 18:55, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. delete Its a joke that too many of its members take seriously... anyway Grims involved so its just gotta go :) --Honestmistake 22:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Keep What? It's a joke. --SeventythreeTalk 22:42, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Keep - if something can be deleted for sending 'the ultimate bad message to new members' and accomplishing nothing, does that mean we can delete Sockem ;) ? --Pavluk A! E! 00:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Keep - Grow up Sockem. It's a joke, you know it, and you also know that it isn't sending a bad message or anything.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
    CNR buddy, I do know its a joke, yet it STILL sends a bad message especially that mods are a member of this group. Omega 00:43, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
    It's not CNR. I know you know it's a joke. Thats why I said it. You obviously know it is, so why the hell are you putting it up for deletions? Name one time where PU has actually done something to drive someone away.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:51, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
  10. Keep - Don't removed the hurr from Urban Dead. Also, don't anger the Grim. It doesn't send a bad message either.--  AHLGTG 00:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
  11. Keep - the page itself is harmless. Now if people were posting templates saying GTFO on newbs talk pages... that'd be pretty bad faith.--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 00:46, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
    Correct, people arn't now, but what if this does happen? You gonna be sorry and I'll be right. Omega 00:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
    if that does happen, we will deal with it then.--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 00:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
    If that does happen, I highly doubt it. Being tha mods are a part of this group. Omega 00:57, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
    It's not a group. It's a satirical joke. It won't do anything. Your argument is a bit like banning the 'why did the chicken cross the road' joke, because a chicken might cross a road and cause an accident. --Pavluk A! E! 01:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
    And if this is deleted due to being "Off-Topic", then Welcome has to be nuked too, as it's just the polar opposite of this. And when that happens, Mr. Farenheit is going to rip you a new one.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 01:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
    I don't get it. Is it kind of like when people threaten to take new editors to vandal banning on the suggestions talk page when they've done noting wrong and are jsut suggesting something for discussion that might be considered a bit silly?--SeventythreeTalk 12:28, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
  12. Keep - as Zombie Slay3r --~~~~ [talk] 11:01, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
  13. Keep - I think you fail to understand the spirit in which Project UnWelcome was created, and continues to exist. Project UnWelcome is not enforced, and any attempt to enforce it with things like UnWelcomenewbie templates will be dealt with through the UDwiki:Vandalism policy. Many members of Project UnWelcome are rather welcoming of newbies, and i include myself in this number (I only ever chased off idiots from the suggestions pages, and that was all many months ago). Just because we dont go spamming their talk pages with gigantic templates doesnt mean we dont watch and/or do what we can where we can. See my post on ZachsMind's talk page as an example of an attempt to help by myself that ran directly counter to the alleged goal of Project UnWelcome. Indeed, my rulings on the vandalism cases about him were also violations of the alleged policy of the group. You can look those up yourself. Fact of the matter is that this group is made in fun, any serious attempts to enforce the joke groups manifesto would be quite patently both obvious and vandalism, and would be dealt with swiftly by numerous sysops if i werent shoving them out of the way and off many precepices in my haste to deal with them first. Please take your senseless dramawhoring chicken little act elsewhere Sockem, perhaps Mars. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 12:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
  14. Keep - C'mon, it's a joke! Been here for ages and never done any harm.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
  15. Keep - I DO realize that Sockem was made in jest but he sends the ultimate bad message to new members in our community, but if that aint good enough chalk him up as spam as he is not on topic UD being that nothing is accomplished by him. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 13:08, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
  16. Keep PRoject Unwelcome shall remain on the wiki, I don't care how many deletions requests I have to vote on. --User:Axe27/Sig 16:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
  17. Keep Because I like teh funnies. --Ms.Panes 18:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  18. Keep - When I first came to the Wiki, I didn't think it was a joke. But, once you have been here for awhile, you catch on. It's fine, and if people can't get the joke... well, too bad? --Ryiis 18:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
  19. Keep - Active wiki group --WanYao 09:12, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Kept -- boxy talki 12:02 29 December 2007 (BST)

My chemical romance

New page, created by a suspected vandal. No content, poor ect.--SeventythreeTalk 17:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

  1. Delete - Kill. --  AHLGTG 17:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Delete - With fire.--SeventythreeTalk 18:00, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. SpeedyDelete - Power-Slap!! --Tumu 18:45, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. SpeedyDelete - Crit 2. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 19:21, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. SpeedyDelete - A Crit 2., pointless attack page.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Speedydeleted -- boxy talki 21:30 26 December 2007 (BST)

Crit 3

Moving here in accordance with kept on SD, to redirect pointing to a page that was deemed vandalism and is a redirect.--Karekmaps?! 20:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

  1. Delete - Shoulda been speedy, redirects to redirects? Redirects to Vandalism? Seems pretty self explanitary.--Karekmaps?! 20:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
    For everyone saying I'm wrong because they are too lazy to check, the pages whole creation and purpose of existence was to redirect to vandalism, which then became a redirect. The page was created as Vandalism.--Karekmaps?! 20:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Delete - Yes, this should have been a speedy delete, and now it will hopefully get deleted anyway --Ryiis 20:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Keep - Because I love nanners, the page its directed to was not vandalism just the first redirect was--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 20:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Keep - Only this page was deemed vandalism. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 20:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Keep - But Phillis, it IS being used! Just not by your backgammon club... Torec T-CC/CS/CS/CS 20:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Keep - There is no "redirect to redirect." Both redirects link to a Red Rum page, which does not redirect anywhere else. There is no vandalism, as I'm fairly sure it is very hard for RR to vandalize their own page. --Druuuuu OcTRR 20:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Keep Druuu's argument is unassailable.--Squid Boy 20:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Keep These two aren't in the DK13 groupspace, and redirect to a Red Rum grouppage. That makes them safe, yes? --Vandr 21:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Keep That Surgeon General stole my shoes. Down with nuts. --Karloth Vois RR 22:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  10. Keep That page has every right to be there, because it does not redirect to vanderlism, and it is funny. Also, karek why do you care? It doesn't really affect you/the wiki?--Thekooks 22:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
    Then it doesn't belong. Ignoring that, I really don't I was just the one that moved it from the SD page.--Karekmaps?! 23:54, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
  11. Keep - yes. --Sir Bob Fortune RR - FEZ - ATO 23:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  12. Sppedydelete - not used redirect, Crit 3 --~~~~ [talk] 23:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  13. Speedydelete - Crit 3, also impersonating another group. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 23:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  14. Keep - Not vandalism, and it can only be considered impersonation by anyone too stupid to spot "Red Rum" in the URL and page title. --c138 RR - PKer 23:58, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
    If they are redirect from either one of those links, red rum is never going to be in the URL... that's the whole point of the exercise. The only place red rum will be shown is on the title bar of your browser. Extremely easy to miss -- boxy talki 01:00 12 December 2007 (BST)
  15. Delete - unused redirect, and adds a level of deception too far -- boxy talki 00:52 12 December 2007 (BST)
  16. Delete - It's all so misleading.--  AHLGTG 01:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
  17. Keep This is ridiculous. I can't believe I am having to vote to keep this page.--Mayor Fitting 01:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC) (edited because the time stamp killed the page)
    Do you even know which pages (plural) are up for deletion)? (Fixed your sig, this time. Please correct it, or don't use a sig template) -- boxy talki 01:20 12 December 2007 (BST)
  18. Keep - for gods sake, when did you guys ban fun? --Ropponmatsu 01:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
  19. Keep - Is this my second vote? --Strata 01:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
  20. Delete - It's still impersonation (it has a misleading custom title) and they're still underused. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 06:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
    Underused? Give us a chance, my preciousss... We've only made that page all of three days ago. --Vandr 06:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
    And why exactly are you using the redirects instead of the real article title? --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 07:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
    For the same reason the article itself exists. But it's not the article that's on trial here, only the non-DK13-groupspace redirects to it. --Vandr 15:18, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
  21. Speedy Delete - Criterion 3, and impersonation of another group. --Z. slay3r Talk  15:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
  22. Delete - Impersonation, misleading and misrepresenting. --Toejam 17:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
    Keep This is getting ridiculous. --Mayor FittingTalk RR 22:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC) One vote is more than enough.--Karekmaps?! 22:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
  23. Keep - As Druuuuu --Dipcup 18:11, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
  24. Keep - As Druuuuu. Sheana/Gogolnik (T HD-T TMZ) 19:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Kept -- boxy talki 23:27 25 December 2007 (BST)

Sig pettition

No useful content or purpose. Posted here due to potential controversy, my belief is that it qualifies for a speedy deletion--The General T Sys U! P! F! 12:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

  1. Keep - If this goes the petition to ban real gamer should to. The one difference though, that makes this better than the real game petition, is that this one has something to do with the wiki. --Karekmaps?! 12:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
    "If this page goes that so and so page should be deleted too" is a crap argument against a deletion. Argue on the merits of this page being discussed, not that of other pages; If you belive that the other page is also worthy of deletion then, fine, nominate it but don't use it as ammunition against another case. What use does this page fulfill? What helpful content relating to the game is there? None!--The General T Sys U! P! F! 13:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
    What? The real gamer one is relevant to Urban Dead... this is the Urban Dead wiki, Karek... not a wiki about the wiki -- boxy talki 13:10 9 December 2007 (BST)
    Fine you want the merits, there are no merits to this being here. There has never been any rule against petitions, even stupid ones like banning users for being annoying, the real gamer petition is an example of that, another would be the petition made earlier this year regarding the VB case where Sonny removed a bunch of groups from suburb pages. The page is there because he wanted to start a petition, just because there is another place that exists where he is limited in time to make his case, get people to see and agree with his viewpoints etc does not mean it is a valid reason to delete this, especially because of the limits of A/PD meant to keep it managable. Move to his userspace if you want to do anything, deleting it serves no purpose beyond suppressing the page or the viewpoint. That being said, my point with the real gamer thing was that Petitions aren't Crit 1s, even if they have no useful content or purpose, unless you want to suddenly redefine crit 1 to content the person putting it up for deletion doesn't have a use for.--Karekmaps?! 13:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
    It serves the purpose of removing junk from this wiki. Criterion 1 is "little or no content" I believe this fulfills that criterion, but put it up for deletion instead because I knew others would disagree with me.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 13:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Delete - If he wants a vote on this, he needs to go to A/PD and follow the simple instructions on the page -- boxy talki 13:10 9 December 2007 (BST)
  3. Delete - Should be a Policy Discussion and not a "pettition". --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 13:11, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
    Delete Just useless spam created to enlarge the images of this wiki. Remove the strike and this comment when you sign. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 14:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Delete - as boxy and Midianian --~~~~ [talk] 15:00, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
  5. Delete Just useless spam created to enlarge the images of this wiki.--Novascotia 16:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Delete - -- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 16:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Delete - as boxy. Also, it's kind of ironic that the user that started a project to 'miniaturise' the wiki now wants to have larger images in signatures --Pavluk A! E! 22:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
  8. Keep - It's not good practice to delete newly-created petitions because it can appear to be censorship, plus it's liable to be frustrating for the author(s). I agree that policy discussion would likely be a more productive place to channel the sentiment here, but this page doesn't need to be deleted for that to happen. --Toejam 06:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
  9. Delete - It should be in A/PD, but it wouldn't have a chance there. --Z. slay3r Talk  14:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
  10. Delete - wut --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 14:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
  11. Delete - Either A/PD or in their namespace --Ryiis 15:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
  12. Keep - C'mon, it's harmless as it is. Unless the author asks for it to be deleted I'm realy not up for deleting something harmless mainly due to the bad blood it might create.--SeventythreeTalk 22:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  13. Delete - or else move it to their name space. problem isn't it's existence, but the fact that it is almost incomprehensible which makes it practically contentless. --WanYao 09:11, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Deleted - 10 delete, 3 Keep. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 09:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey

Crit 12 was removed to avoid deleteing well-developed group pages for failing to meet an arbitrary edit minimum. It was not removed to give every page with a group box immunity from deletion regardless of their lack of content- Vantar 08:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

  1. 'Delete - Vantar 08:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Speedydelete - Crit 1 -- boxy talki 08:54 24 December 2007 (BST)
  3. Speedydelete - Needless rant is needless. It's a Crit 1.--Karekmaps?! 09:23, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. SpeedyDelete - Namespace pollution is bad. --Tumu 11:49, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Speedydeleted --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 18:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Ass kicking alliance

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD.

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  18:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)Speedydelete Nuke it.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  03:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Speedy Delete - Crit 1.--Karekmaps?! 00:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Speedydelete -- boxy talki 01:24 21 December 2007 (BST)

Speedydeleted -- boxy talki 05:27 21 December 2007 (BST)

Army of Darkness

As below, appears to be abandoned. Felt these would be too conroversial for SD. (this is why we need crit 12)

  1. Delete- will change if page gets updated.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  18:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)Speedydelete Nuke it.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  03:46, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Speedy Delete - Crit 1.--Karekmaps?! 00:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Speedydelete -- boxy talki 01:20 21 December 2007 (BST)

Speedydeleted -- boxy talki 05:27 21 December 2007 (BST)

Category talk:Current Suggestions

I've continuously been fighting to find the "real" talk page of the Suggestions page. Currently there is this one (unused since Nov 19), the Category_talk:Suggestions version (used for mostly administrative things) and the Talk:Suggestions version (used for developing suggestions).
I suggest that we archive the mentioned page and insert a redirect to one of the two (I'm not sure which, but I think the "admin" one would work fine). --Karlsbad 02:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

  1. KeepMerge - What's the problem? Talk:Suggestions is for developing suggestions, Category talk:Current Suggestions is for suggestion policy stuff and Category talk:Sugggestions is for administrative things. If anything, I would remove the last one my list.--  AHLGTG 03:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
    And no, Talk:Suggestions is for suggestion development, Category_Talk:Suggestions is for suggestions policy and discussion in general, and Category_Talk:Current_Suggestions is for discussion on Current Suggestions. Category_Talk:Current_Suggestions is more or less obsolete thanks to not only individual suggestion talk pages but Category_Talk:Suggestions which has the same function but also serves for policy discussions too.--Karekmaps?! 09:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
    Oops, mixed up the two categories. Karsbad's fault! :P Changing to Merge. Just confuses things.--  AHLGTG 18:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Keep - Just create a navbar for all of them.--Jorm 03:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Merge - As per this recently archived discussion, then update the already existing navigational template {{Template:Suggestions Category}}--Karekmaps?! 09:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. Keep - As Jorm -- boxy talki 23:27 7 December 2007 (BST)
  5. Keep - Nav bar FTW. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 11:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
  6. Keep - As Jorm --Ryiis 15:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
  7. Merge - it's confusing have so many. I can never find the one I want except through links in discussions - which is mad. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 20:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Kept -- boxy talki 01:45 20 December 2007 (BST)

Best group

Misleading redirect --Pavluk A! E! 23:16, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

  1. Begone Speedy Delete - Crit three, as other have pointed out.--Karekmaps?! 13:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Speedydelete crit 3. Only used on authors talk page, and only used there by pavluk to tell him not to make stupid redirects. Edit. Forgot to sign. That was dumb. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 13:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Speedydelete - unused redirect -- boxy talki 05:54 15 December 2007 (BST)
Speedydeleted --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 13:30, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Coolest group

Misleading redirect --Pavluk A! E! 23:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

  1. Begone Speedy Delete - Crit three, as other have pointed out.--Karekmaps?! 13:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Speedydelete crit 3. Only used on authors talk page, and only used there by pavluk to tell him not to make stupid redirects. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 23:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Speedydelete - unused redirect -- boxy talki 05:52 15 December 2007 (BST)
Speedydeleted --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 13:30, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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