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This page contains all previous requests for Deletion Scheduling.

Missed Talk Pages

Basically this would make Crit 5 a scheduled deletion. There aren't many missed talk pages but we might as well just make them delete on sight. -- Cheese 17:43, 4 May 2010 (BST)

  1. Yarp -- Cheese 17:43, 4 May 2010 (BST)
  2. Yea - And to save people the trouble of looking, crit 5 is: "Missed Talk Page: The page is a Talk: Page from a previous deletion request that has not been deleted with the request (please note the relevant deletion request if this is so)."--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 18:02, 4 May 2010 (BST)
  3. Fuck yeah The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new 18:17, 4 May 2010 (BST)
  4. Yes--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 18:18, 4 May 2010 (BST)
  5. Yes-User:Whitehouse 18:56, 4 May 2010 (BST)
  6. Yes - Should have always been scheduled, since it's the result of a mistake in the first place. I assume we will not need to make note of the previous deletion request? Or would we be expected to link it in the comment? Aichon 19:14, 4 May 2010 (BST)
  7. Ja - No page should mean no talk. Q. JuliusTBH 21:47, 4 May 2010 (BST)
  8. I approve - of this message. -- Emot-argh.gif 22:36, 4 May 2010 (BST)
  9. yes - I wanted to put this forward about 6 months ago but I heard some very good reasons not to. There are some interesting reasons why missed talk pages shouldn't be deleted on sight but honestly I never cared and I just think they should be gone. -- 00:26, 5 May 2010 (BST)
  10. No As much as I like the idea, someones still going to have to submit them. It's not like the mods will go looking for them. The process via speedy deletion remains unchanged by this suggested policy. -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 01:33, 5 May 2010 (BST)
    Point the one: Some people use IRC and point things out to sysops there. Point the two: Many Crit 5s are noticed by sysops double-checking each other's work, who are currently required to post them to A/SD, rather than being allowed to act on them themselves. In fact, it's already common practice on IRC for sysops to nudge each other whenever one discovers a Crit 5. The nudging is then usually followed up by mutual griping about how much Crit 5 sucks. All of these are common situations that run contrary to your last statement. Aichon 01:45, 5 May 2010 (BST)
    So you notice a missed talk page, you tell someone about it via IRC, and they delete it. I notice it, tell someone via SD, and they delete it... how is it contrary to my statement? Aside from IRC being made to look like a massive bitch fest to keep drama off the wiki that is.... -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 04:10, 5 May 2010 (BST)
    Your statement was that the process remains unchanged by scheduling Crit 5s for deletion. I gave examples of how scheduling it would allow sysops to act immediately and directly, rather than having to wait and rely on others. Assuming what I say is true, then your statement cannot be correct, since I've given a counter-example that refutes your claim of no change occurring. Of course, you could argue that it wouldn't be changed in practice, since you said that "mods" don't go looking for Crit 5s, but so far in 2010 (and based on my quick skimming through the archives), just one shy of half the Crit 5s have been submitted by sysops, and if we count Yonnua, then it is over half. So, I'd say that the process is changed both in theory and in practice. Aichon 05:43, 5 May 2010 (BST)
    What a stupid reason. "it should be a scheduled, but it won't be used all that much by sysops, so I'm voting no". IMO most occurrences of these are noticed by ops and as an ex op, I think this reduction of red tape would be quite appealing. -- 04:43, 5 May 2010 (BST)
    What a stupid reason? It's like the mass majority of idiots to go fuck with a system that works perfectly. If it works, leave it alone,... Last thing we need is for a bunch of pages to be deleted all willy nilly, though rightfully so. At lease this way, no one else can bitch about what you people have done... -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 13:27, 5 May 2010 (BST)
    No, I don't think you understand, and judging from how you act in these situations I doubt you ever will. The system doesn't work personally, and from a user who is both an ex-op from this wiki and an op from several other small wiki's, one principle stays true to not just our ideals but also the practical application to the extended powers of a sysop: if it doesn't harm anybody, it's barely used and it removes red tape, then the inhibiting rule shouldn't even be there. This fits my rule. I tend to think you're judging this rule in its practical application compared to its principle (and even then, you've got its practical potential wrong anyway, imo). -- 18:11, 5 May 2010 (BST)
    Regardless, I remain unswayed... -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 22:27, 5 May 2010 (BST)
    Yeah, cause you're a dipshit, which I've always maintained. And we've done our job. We've told you why you're wrong, not so you vote otherwise but so other people as stupid as you can read our responses and learn that you aren't right so they don't vote no for a dumb reason. -- 03:54, 6 May 2010 (BST)
    You speak almost as if there was, or ever would be another no vote... -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 04:05, 6 May 2010 (BST)
    You never know! -- 04:10, 6 May 2010 (BST)
    You sure as hell seem too... -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 04:12, 6 May 2010 (BST)
  11. Yes Dagnapit. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 04:57, 5 May 2010 (BST)
  12. Yes. I agree with Nick... I mean, Monkey. Chief Seagull squawk grown-ups agree with Nick 09:37, 5 May 2010 (BST)
  13. Yes Aichon really nailed the problem in the discussion with PoD above. -- Spiderzed 14:03, 5 May 2010 (BST)
  14. Yes. G F J 21:08, 5 May 2010 (BST)
  • Passed - 14:1 in favour. -- Cheese 20:32, 19 May 2010 (BST)

Amending "Crit 7 by Proxy" scheduled deletion

If a page's author blanks it or replaces it with text indicating their desire to have it deleted, the page is to be deleted on sight. However, templates and other pages used as inclusions are exempted from Crit 7 by proxy.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 22:24, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

  1. Yes I beleive this meets the template concerns.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 22:24, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
  2. Yes Might as well remove/retract the vote further down then. -- 22:28, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
     :O:O:O You'd better not be planning to remove a vote before it's scheduled closing time!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:49, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
    Actually, that's exactly the reason the last one's still up here.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 22:50, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
    Why not? There is nothing wrong with withdrawing a vote early. -- 00:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
    I was making a joke about Bob's A/M case.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:33, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
    はい 箱の人は馬鹿であるが、これはよい考えである。 Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 22:45, 20 December 2009 (UTC)please make initial vote in engrish -- 00:37, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
    (Yes)--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 22:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
    I don't care. -- 00:37, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yes - Congratulations, Red Hawk, you have secured my vote.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:48, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yes - Is polasaí maith é. The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new 00:02, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  5. Yes - --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 00:04, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Alleviates the concerns we had before. Linkthewindow  Talk  00:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  7. Yes - I normal to are feeling the anger for second inside by making no vote, but comment for funny engrish pursuade. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 01:21, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Has the one previously identified issue worked out. Aichon 01:48, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Again. --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 02:17, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  10. Yay - Works now, although out of curiosity, would this extend to group pages? -Wulfenbach 06:17, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  11. Yes - Bogdan Radu 07:05, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Sure. --ZsL 13:51, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  13. Yea - Va bene. --Janus talk 14:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Happy with amendment --C Whitty 19:43, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  15. Yarp - Looks good to me. -- Cheese 09:27, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
  16. Yea - Much better. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 09:42, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
  17. Yea - Huzzah! --JohnGGeo 18:28, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
  18. NAY - wipes the snow off of the COMBO BREAKER!! sorry i was bored. and i felt the need to vote on something.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 23:35, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
  19. Yes - Ja, zoals hierboven beschreven staat.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 09:52, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
  20. Yea Go for it. --Sannok 12:55, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
  21. Yarp Hot Fuzz Reference. --Animere 18:23, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
  22. Yes - Word. -- Papa Jadkor (RRF) (MotA) (MT11) 16:53, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
  23. Yes - Wowzers.-- Adward  14:27, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
  24. Yes - Saves so much time. --Haliman - Talk 20:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Passed with 23 for and 1 against. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:26, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Corollary to "Crit 7 by Proxy" scheduled deletion

If a page's author blanks it or replaces it with text indicating their desire to have it deleted, the page is to be deleted on sight. Current rules for deleting by proxy still apply as applicable.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 04:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

  1. Yes --~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 04:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  2. Yay -- 04:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yea Seems obvious enough. Nay - I had not thought about the template issue. Make an exception for that and I'm back on board. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 06:22, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yea --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 07:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  5. No - this would allow users to get templates, that may be in use on other people's pages, deleted with no record as to what happened. Stuff in their user space, stuff ups, or low content group pages maybe, but not everything -- boxy talkteh rulz 07:37 15 December 2009 (BST)
    I'm not quite sure what you mean with the template thing; the user would still have to have been the creator to have the page deleted. Care to elaborate?--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 14:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
    User A create a template. B includes it on their page. User A later blanks it and requests that it be deleted on it. B is out of luck when it gets deleted, despite the fact that B is using it. Aichon 15:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
    What people aren't getting is that it would be deleted anyway, either through A/SD or the already existing Crit 7 Proxy clause. The argument is redundant and complaining for the sake of complaining. -- 00:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
    I wouldn't delete a template that was used elsewhere just because the author requested it. I'd roll back the pagewipe. Just because something meets a speedydelete criterion, doesn't mean it should automatically be deleted -- boxy talkteh rulz 05:41 16 December 2009 (BST)
    Are you saying you wouldn't do the same rollback in the same situation had this scheduled passed? -- 06:20, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
    Yes, I would. But there is no way for others to double check the deletion, like we do on a/sd, because there is no record. Sysops make mistakes -- boxy talkteh rulz 06:33 16 December 2009 (BST)
  6. No - Boxy knows what he's on about. Not templates and such.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:43, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  7. No - YUM BOXYS DICK TASTES GUDjust make an exception for templates and resubmit Cyberbob  Talk  07:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  8. No - re boxy and I dont like the idea of deletion on sight as mentioned by red even if author signifys --C Whitty 15:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  9. No - It's not a lot of hassle to request deletion, and avoids any hassle this might cause. The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new 15:24, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  10. No - As boxy. Just change it so you can't delete included pages (as per Cyberbob's suggestion) and it'd be fine. Aichon 15:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
  11. Nay! Nay I say!-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 23:50, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
    Ik kan me hier niet in vinden ben ik bang, zoals anderen al hierboven sommeerde, ik ben het met hun eens. Nee . Dit kan ik trouwens niet laten, SA <3 --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 07:14, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
    *sigh*. You idiot -- boxy talkteh rulz 08:53 16 December 2009 (BST)
    English, or GTFO -- boxy talkteh rulz 23:47 17 December 2009 (BST)
  12. NOPE. As boxster. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:19, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
  13. No - What those other people said. --ZsL 10:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
  14. Nay - You'll have to resubmit this one accounting for templates, as others have stated.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 14:02, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
  15. No - Boxy ha ragione, bisogna modificare questa proposta in modo da includere il suo suggerimento. E Heaven è favolosa. --Janus talk 15:24, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
    <3--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 20:58, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
    私は皆涼しいために私のズボンのトロンボーンを付けることにしたが完全に退屈であることおよび皆をコピーするために、恐ろしい翻訳と後で解決した。いいえ悪臭がするコアラの腎臓 Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 21:50, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
    Epic. You need to have a clear yes/no though before someone strikes it, preferably in the Latin alphabet. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 22:03, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
    私は。 どれも大胆である部品ではない。 3つの盲目のフランスのソーセージが唾液の川で最初に浸る沈降の船から叫ぶことを動かせば、か。 ウエーター。 Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 22:13, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
    いいえ = No. --ZsL 21:55, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
    English, or GTFO -- boxy talkteh rulz 23:47 17 December 2009 (BST)
    あなたのろばの上のそれを、無学な至上主義者の愚か者置きなさい。 Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 00:31, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
    That wasn't very nice of you to say. --ZsL 00:56, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
  16. No - Tidak bagus sekali, karena template masalah. See, I can speak another language too! I only needed to use Google Translate for one word! Seriously, as someone said, proposal is fine for low-key group pages and user pages, but there's a problem with it being applied to templates. Linkthewindow  Talk  15:20, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
    I didn't have to use a translator at all! \o/ -- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 21:15, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Withdrawn by author.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:24, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Unused Images (2)

Basically the same thing as last time, and with the same reasoning, except with 2 weeks' leeway instead of 1. I have yet to see any image go unused for more than 2 weeks that didn't also make it to a month without being linked somewhere. Cyberbob  Talk  12:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

  1. Yes Cyberbob  Talk  12:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
  2. Yes --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
  3. No Same as last time, same response. One week extra doesn't cut it for me. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 14:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
    then die Cyberbob  Talk  14:54, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
    What's that Bob, a death threat? Off to A/VB with you then! --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 15:09, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
    hm yase a death threat. thats exactly what it was; a literal threat for your literal death posted on a wiki. on a page for the deletion of 1's and 0's. u r smert Cyberbob  Talk  15:25, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
    It's amusing to see how serious you take me sometimes. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:33, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yes - Two weeks is more reasonable.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
  5. Yea - Two weeks sounds good to me.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 17:38, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
  6. Yea - As above. One week is really short. --Haliman - Talk 18:20, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
  7. Yea No - Seems reasonable as an expected implementation time-frame, and may prompt people to concentrate on finishing what they start. Fail user is fail. I should have read the existing policy, and a month strikes me as fine for a ceiling. -Wulfenbach 19:44, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
    I've been deleting these things for months and I can tell you that it is not fine. Cyberbob  Talk  10:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    ...and I thank you (seriously) for your work on it, but what are the technical drawbacks of letting it go to one month rather than half that time? Is the wiki running out of storage space? Why the rush to delete? -Wulfenbach 11:07, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    If we followed that kind of reasoning when the wiki was first made we would not have A/SD. "Disk space = cheep" is not a good enough reason for anything. This is a compromise from my last proposal that would still see the amount of wastage severely reduced. Cyberbob  Talk  11:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    I'm sorry, Bob, but having just read the A/SD policy, I cannot see how my reasoning/example/request for clarification leads to NOT having A/SD. If anything, I can see the deletion of unlinked pictures after a given timeframe as being a A/SD criterion. The issue as I understand it is why 2 weeks? Why 1 week? Why 1 month? Why is it better to delete after 2 weeks than one month? You've said that in your experience it is common for a picture that is unlinked for two weeks is likely to remain unlinked. What's the frequency of this then? 9/10? 6/10? I believe you in that in your experience, the above is true. I just would like to see some empirical evidence. -Wulfenbach 11:34, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Ask Jed how the wiki would go out for hours because the server was getting full of data. If we can push the nuke date back a little while farther by getting rid of images people don't use then hell yes.-- SA 11:37, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    That's a complete strawman argument, new images that are being linked and therefore won't be subject to this are added to the wiki everyday. That's an argument to increase server space, not delete unwanted images quicker. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 11:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    It's actually an argument to do both. Yay! Cyberbob  Talk  11:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Don't worry Bob, I'm about to make all your troubles go away. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 11:57, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    How the fuck can I give you empirical evidence when they're all deleted? Get back to me with a request which can actually be granted, thanks. Cyberbob  Talk  04:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
    Eh, I think you can, but it'd be actual work to do so, likely more than it's worth. I'll not bother with stating the method, due to the previous statement, unless you challenge/want me to, then I'll dump it on your talk page then. It'd be normal experimental design, I would think. Regardless, the point about a reasonable request is noted. My statement about competing opinions/experience stands, I would think, not that much can be done about it. Popularity contests here aren't just for A/M;A/A;A/P;etc.-Wulfenbach 11:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
  8. Yea indeed --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
  9. No - As last time. Once images are gone, they can't be retrieved. It doesn't happen often, but they can become unused without anyone noticing via vandalism, or pages that get deleted and are later requested for undeletion -- boxy talkteh rulz 23:59 26 November 2009 (BST)
    By "doesn't happen often" you mean "has never happened in the history of the wiki", right? You're theorycrafting ridiculously implausible situations for the sake of being contrary. Cyberbob  Talk  00:03, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
    Well, Hagnat, at least, has lost images from one of his old group pages, when Conn SDed it, and then immediately schedule deleted the images. I don't see the need for this, apart from you wanting the unused image list to be slightly shorter. Meh -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:16 28 November 2009 (BST)
    If by "slightly" you mean "nearly cut in half" then I agree. Cyberbob  Talk  10:48, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    So what's the big deal with that boxy? If they're in need of being used in the future, just make the request for undeletion, or reupload them. Doesn't really seem like that big of a deal to me. -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 18:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
    Can't undelete images. Can reupload, though the whole "may not have the file any more to upload" poses a problem. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 09:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    If you don't keep a copy of anything you upload to any Internet site on your harddrive then you're doing it wrong. Cyberbob  Talk  10:45, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
  10. No - As Boxy, I see absolutely no reason why they need to go in two weeks rather than a month. Perhaps the server is straining under the weight of unused images that are three weeks old.... -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 03:14, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
  11. Yesh - Better time duration. --ZsL 03:39, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
  12. Yea - Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 04:02, 27 November 2009 (BST)
  13. Nay - As those above. Unless there is a pressing reason for why it needs to be changed, I don't see a need for this change. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 06:28, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
    The last time I brought this up there were roughly 50 unused images on the list. There are now 90. Cyberbob  Talk  10:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    90 is an awfully... pointless... number without a sense of scale. Would you like to share with the boys and girls what percentage of all the images on the wiki '90' is? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 11:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Much less than 1%, much, much less -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:31 28 November 2009 (BST)
    Tell me why this is a rebuttal to anything again? Cyberbob  Talk  16:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
  14. Yes I don't know about other people,... but I try to link to an image first, then upload it to prevent my images from being unused. -Poodle of DoomM! Fear is only as deep as the mind will allow it be.T 18:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
  15. No Month seems fine to me, what is the need to change?--C Whitty 22:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
  16. No Same reason as before --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 22:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
  17. No - The last edit merely indicates a "ceiling" on the time when an image was likely to have last been used on a page. Since it's acting as a ceiling, not a floor, there's every reason to be liberal in how much time is allowed. It'll rarely get in the way anyway, I should think. Aichon 08:29, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    What are you talking about? Cyberbob  Talk  10:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Think we've found a new candidate for "worst wording of 2009" since Hag left. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    what is this i dont even-- SA 11:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    I know exactly what he's talking about.... -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 11:46, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Even half dead I think I get it too. I was saying that in response to DDR thinking ANYTHING could EVER come close to beating hag's record for mauling the English language the way he can. :) -- SA 11:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    I'm sure one of you will get around to explaining to poor old dumb Cyberbob eventually. Cyberbob  Talk  11:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    He's saying that just because an image shows up on the unused image list, and was uploaded more than a month ago, it doesn't mean that it wasn't potentially used on a page only minutes ago. The upload date is the "ceiling"... the time it was likely first used on a page, the "floor", the last time it was used, is anytime since then, potentially only minutes ago -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:31 28 November 2009 (BST)
    Moved to the talk page. Aichon 06:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
  18. Nay Standard Zombie 15:41, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Would you care to share why? Cyberbob  Talk  15:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Reasons are not required in scheduling votes in order to be valid. Would you care to stop badgering the majority of those disagreeing with you? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 15:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Text on an internet page is literally reaching out from the screen and physically forcing you to type... nooo.... Cyberbob  Talk  15:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    How many three week old unused images are there? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 15:57, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Right as of this moment (it's a fluid number for obvious reasons), about 20 or so. Cyberbob  Talk  15:59, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Liar. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 16:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Er, there were the last time I checked. This isn't really your best "gotcha" moment as I would have no reason to lie about something so easily checked. Cyberbob  Talk  16:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    "Right as of this moment" is a very definitive statement. The answer to the question is: none. There are no three week old unused images. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 16:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    You should probably not talk any more. Cyberbob  Talk  16:08, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    That's just cheating Issy. -- Cheese 16:04, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Oh, an image ark! You should probably know that I don't actually count those as "uses" for images - particularly not when you're clearly only doing it to try and get [MOTION SUBMITTED BY CYBERBOB] denied. So they will still be getting deleted. Cyberbob  Talk  16:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Image arks don't count? I think you'll find they do, that's what they're for. Go for it, write your own massive misconduct case, now or February, it doesn't matter to me when you get demoted. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 16:08, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    You think I actually care, or that if I didn't go through with this I'd be demoted in February? Lol. I'd actually take more pleasure in seeing you proven wrong on the latter point than the former. Cyberbob  Talk  16:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Keep talking, those images are used, and you know it. Deleting an image that is not subject to deletion by vote, speedy or scheduled will get you a misconduct escalation each and every time you you do it. You are aware that image arks count as images being in use and have indicated as much. We'll see whether you are posturing or not tomorrow. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 16:14, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    I'm sorry, you don't seem to actually be aware of the difference in meaning between the words "latter" and "former". Would you like for me to rectify your sorry lack of knowledge about the English language? Cyberbob  Talk  16:17, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    OMG! Placing all the unused images in an user space archive page to make such a chickenshit point? lol -- boxy talkteh rulz 16:15 28 November 2009 (BST)
    Considering the vast majority of your recent edits are blatant trolling you should probably try listening to your own advice. -- Cheese 15:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
  19. I'm going to say no on this occasion. As Boxy said, we can't restore the images once they're gone. If this was fixed then I'd have no problem with this. For now though, I think a month is fine. -- Cheese 16:20, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
    Why does having the length of time set at a month alleviate the "problem" (which is really just a matter someone being too stupid to not keep a copy of the images they upload on their computer) any more than having it at two weeks? People throw around this "ohhhh gosh can't undelete em!" line but nobody has explained why this would make it any worse. Cyberbob  Talk  04:20, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
  20. Yes This isn't an image host. If an image isn't used in 2 weeks it probably isn't going to be used again. And to those whining about the image being lost if it deleted, then if it is so fucking important the person that uploaded it should have a fucking copy of it still. --Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 09:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
  21. Yes This^ -- SA 22:04, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
  22. Yes - As usual, Wikipedia saves me from typing things. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Passed with 12 for and 10 against. Cyberbob  Talk  00:26, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Grouped Location Pages

Grouped location pages, such as Shackleville Schools, are to be deleted once they have been de-merged and incoming links (excluding those referencing deletion) have been diverted to the appropriate pages.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 05:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

  1. Yes --Orange Talk 00:26, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  2. Yea - It might not get used frequently, and only by a select few ops, but why the hell not. Basically, a) they are already crit 1's, and the more black-and-white sort of crit 1's, not "policy says c1's are 2 lines of text but this has 3". b) Anyone who attains sysop status will already know the correct procedure so it isn't like we will mess it up, and it isn't the sort of task that an unknowing sysop would do on a whim anyway, there is a lot of work involved beforehand. c) Even in the case of an op going rogue there is practically null way any sysop could abuse this as part of some personal vendetta etc. so I don't see why we shouldn't add this to get rid of the red tape to make it easier for location pages to conform with existing policy. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:28, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  3. No - Removing all the links is a monotonous task and it would be easy to miss some in the endless repetition of changing them. The oversight from sending it to A/SD ensures that nothing is missed. I see absolutely no great gain to be achieved in scheduling this and a potential problems if we change from the current system that works fine. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 00:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  4. No - Yeah. --  AHLGTG 00:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  5. Nay - As DDR mentioned, crit 1 speedy delete means these group pages get nuked anyway. And since unmerging is so involved, it's a good idea to have at least one other person review the links for errors. Finally, all of the group locations will be gone soon anyway, and this scheduling policy will then be defunct--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 00:38, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Forgot to vote. While the nays do bring up good points, I still feel that the sysops who participate in demerging (who would benifit from this) are trustworthy enough to do a thourough job.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 00:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Though I'd suggest shelving it if and when it becomes defunct. The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new 04:09, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Nah. Cyberbob  Talk  04:15, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  9. Yea - I had been wondering about these kinds of pages for a while but never really gave it much thought. There will be a lot of links to check and double-check, but I think that generally this is something that probably should have been done a long time ago. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 06:23, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  10. Yes - De facto because of Crit 1, just make it happen.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:37, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  11. No If you've copied and pasted everything to relevant pages its already covered under crit 1, and i think its prudent to double check the likes of dunell hill streets. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:43, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  12. No As Ross. Beeeeeee! --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 20:29, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
    Holeee Fuck. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
  13. Nope - It would be best to use A/SD in order for another user to double-check. --ZsL 23:49, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
  14. No - I don't think this is necessary, given that there arn't that many of them anyway -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:00 25 November 2009 (BST)
  15. Yes A job needed doing--C Whitty 17:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
  16. Yea - Saves time. --Haliman - Talk 18:30, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
  17. Yes Standard Zombie 15:43, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Passed with 10 Yeas to 7 Nays.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 05:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Unnecessary banned user pages

The User: pages of permbanned spambot and dedicated vandal alt accounts that have no contributions showing (due to history wipe or spam/vandalism deletion) and no links to the page except from A/VB and A/VB/B (or their talk pages) should be deleted -- boxy talkteh rulz 01:13 13 November 2009 (BST)

  1. Yes -- boxy talkteh rulz 01:13 13 November 2009 (BST)
  2. I didn't actually read it but I thought it would be a good idea to just sheep whatever boxy picked AKA YES YOU COCKS.-- SA 01:26, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yes Cyberbob  Talk  01:32, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yes--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:35, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
  5. Yea - Just add it to the spambot clause that's already on the Scheduled page, imo. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:36, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 04:28, 13 November 2009 (BST)
  7. Yea --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:17, 13 November 2009 (UTC)Insert non-formatted text here
  8. No - A facetious attempt to add moderation to the process, yesterday's entertainment isn't a spambot nor can check user find an current account here so it's not a 'an alt' either, do you think Boxy will try to delete it under this criteria? How about User:God? You going to delete that as a vandal alt of User:Amazing? It fits your poorly written criteria. {{BannedUser}} exists purely to be placed on the pages of banned users without pages. Deleting a page takes precisely the same amount of effort as protecting it, the difference? No-one's been escalated for adding banned user to vandal pages, people have been escalated for adding {{WelcomeNewbie}} to banned vandal pages. Is Boxy going to alter his criteria to grant immunity to anyone doing mass welcomes? Didn't think so. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 09:59, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
    I did have some concerns about the inclusion of regular vandal alts as well as bots in this, but it wouldn't cover ones that make "normal" comments on people's talk pages (to gloat or whatever) and they're the only ones that people would ever visit anyway. Cyberbob  Talk  12:01, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
    Oh, look. Your example doesn't qualify. And look up the useage of {{tl}} -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:59 13 November 2009 (BST)
    So all you want is it to link to another page? I feel a subpage coming on. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 15:20, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
  9. Yea - Why should spambits be immortalized with their own pages? Also, if this change is implemented, there should be a vandalism exemption for adding {{WelcomeNewbie}} to the banned users.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 13:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
    No there shouldn't. Welcomenewbie is a stupid template that only exists so that people can pad their edit counts. Anything that would make life a little bit harder for the mindless ==Welcome==
    {{welcomenewbie}} ~~~~
    drones is A-OK in my book. Cyberbob  Talk  13:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
    Ummm, this scheduled deletion doesn't mean that creating the pages is automatic vandalism, only that a sysop can nuke them on sight. Inadvertently putting {{WN}} on a spambot/vandal's talk page will not be vandalism -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:25 13 November 2009 (BST)
    Ah good. Then what are you talking about people getting escalated, Iscariot?--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 13:40, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
    I think he means how some users purposefully put the template on multiple banned users pages. Not sure though. He'll probably along any minute to yell at me and say he can argue his own things though. :C -- SA 15:37, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
    Users were escalated incorrectly for adding the welcome newbie template to red linked user talk pages. As this deletion holds no such exemption I'm thinking that it shouldn't go through until good faith users are protected against the warping of A/VB by certain people. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 15:20, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
  10. Yep I agree. --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:07, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
  11. Aye - gotta leave nothing for those silly bots --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 20:31, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
  12. YES - I was just about to do this myself. -- Cheese 15:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
  13. No - Unless by "Dedicated Vandal Accounts" you refer only to those that are perma'd under the 3 strikes no constructive edits rule. --Honestmistake 10:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
    "Unless by "*insert term that was never used here*" you refer to... --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 11:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
    Oh I am sorry.... I missed the word "alt" --Honestmistake 11:56, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
    It's cool. I just like to poke fun. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Obviously we dont want them here, most are "alt" pages. -- Emot-argh.gif 06:55, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  15. Yes - As long as the vandal alts are recorded under the main accounts in A/VD, I don't see much of a problem with this. --ZsL 23:49, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
  16. Yes - A no brainer really?? --C Whitty 17:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Passed with 14 for and 2 against. Cyberbob  Talk  11:01, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Defunct Group Images

For the purposes of this proposed deletion, a "defunct group" is one whose page has been deleted from the wiki through either of the deletion pages. If a defunct group has any images related to their group (provided that they are otherwise unused) they may be deleted along with the group page. -- Cheese 00:00, 3 October 2009 (BST)

  1. Yes - Doesn't happen very often but saves it waiting for the month long unused requirement. -- Cheese 00:00, 3 October 2009 (BST)
  2. Yes - Deleting a group's page and subpages should also bring with it the deletion of images used only on those pages. The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new 00:09, 3 October 2009 (BST)
  3. No - How 'bout you expand it any page, not just group? Assuming the image is not used. --  AHLGTG 00:12, 3 October 2009 (BST)
  4. No - As Gnome. Cyberbob  Talk  00:36, 3 October 2009 (BST)
  5. No - This only applies to pages less than a month old, which means that the owner would have to request through A/SD or A/D, and can be easily asked if they want the images gone as well. Group pages less than a month old that are deleted without the owners permission are extremely rare -- boxy talkteh rulz 03:22 3 October 2009 (BST)
  6. No - As per above. Fou-Lu 02:46, 4 October 2009 (BST)
  7. N0 i have no idea what i'm doing----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 15:01, 4 October 2009 (BST)
  8. No - As Boxy. It's redundant. Linkthewindow  Talk  06:56, 5 October 2009 (BST)
  9. No -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 07:30, 5 October 2009 (BST)
  10. No - Eh, they'll eventually work their way into unused images. --ZsL 06:47, 6 October 2009 (BST)
  11. No --Papa Johnny 17:30, 7 October 2009 (BST)
  12. No --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 19:27, 7 October 2009 (BST)
  13. Yes - What Gnome said.--Teln 03:13, 9 October 2009 (BST)
  14. No - As boxy. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 08:47, 9 October 2009 (BST)

Failed with 3 for and 11 against. Cyberbob  Talk  00:27, 18 October 2009 (BST)

Unused images

Currently unused images are deleted after they have gone one month without an edit. This is way too long; any image that has gone unedited for more than like a week (if that) is pretty much guaranteed to make it all the way down the line. I propose shortening the length of time unused images can go without edits before they are deleted to one week. Cyberbob  Talk  06:00, 1 October 2009 (BST)

The deletion of unused images is already problematic. Images can not be restored if a mistake is made, and it is very easy to delete images that have been removed in a page wiping vandal act that may not be noticed for some days, or in edit disputes. As soon as they are edited off a page, the image shows up as unused and (unless they've been uploaded recently) immediately qualify for scheduled deletion, with no way for the sysop to track down which page they used to be included on -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:35 1 October 2009 (BST)
Have you looked at the list? It is made up of stupid ingame screenshots, outdated Necronet scans and logos for groups that have become defunct. In my weeks of trimming the list that is quite literally all I have ever seen, and if I was to ever see one that broke this mold I would hold off on nuking it simply because of this fact. The danger you speak of Does Not Exist. Cyberbob  Talk  16:15, 1 October 2009 (BST)
And in the event that it occurs (which in an extremely rare occasion that it will), it isn't beyond a sysop to notice it was uploaded either more than a month ago, or longer than the last unused-deletions purge, so an image under any criteria you hypothetically mentioned would stick out like a sore thumb and be fixable. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 16:31, 2 October 2009 (BST)
How are you going to track down which page an image was removed from, DDR?
Even though it is damn easy to tell which page images like a hockey stick are likely to be used on, I still remember people trying to keep a "real" hockey stick on the melee weapons page, only to have it replaced with ice hockey sticks, and the images deleted as unused.
Unless it is obvious which page the image came from, there is no way to know where the images in unused images were used on a wiki of this size. Perhaps there is a way to totally rewrite the unused images criteria, so that unused images between a week and a month are free to be deleted on sight, but older ones that turn up are put on an image archive page for a month or two, and only then are they deleted if they remain unused, to give people time to notice that they've been taken off a page -- boxy talkteh rulz 03:39 3 October 2009 (BST)
Great, so we should bend over backwards with even more stupid red tape just so idiots don't have their retarded images deleted because of their own laziness and inattention? No thanks. Cyberbob  Talk  03:51, 3 October 2009 (BST)
Bob, they LOVE red tape. They kept telling Nubis "the red tape is there for a reason" but the reason is to make people feel important. Good luck fighting the common sense good fight! --Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 02:54, 11 October 2009 (BST)
Sorry, that should be "I" there instead of "we" - everyone else is happy to sit back and let me do all the work but when I look for something that would make my life so much easier it's all NO U CANT DO THAT HERE ALLOW ME TO SUGGEST AN EVEN WORSE SYSTEM Cyberbob  Talk  03:55, 3 October 2009 (BST)
How does this make your life easier? It just means you can delete images earlier -- boxy talkteh rulz 03:58 3 October 2009 (BST)
My prime motivation has been to keep the list as short as possible. Deleting them earlier means that I won't get so pissed off when I see stupid cunts uploading stupid cuntish shit because I know it'll be gone sooner. Cyberbob  Talk  04:03, 3 October 2009 (BST)
No, that's why I haven't been worried too much by the problems I've outlined above before, because it's been obvious to me for a while. There are huge numbers of useless images that need to be deleted with a minimum of fuss, even if it occasionally causes problems, and we have the criteria to do that now -- boxy talkteh rulz 03:58 3 October 2009 (BST)
If you don't give a shit then don't bother typing words Cyberbob  Talk  04:03, 3 October 2009 (BST)
In the worst case scenario (when the image doesn't elude to whom it belongs to), go through the user. Even with the history purge interfering it's rarely difficult. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 04:37, 3 October 2009 (BST)
  1. Yes Cyberbob  Talk  06:00, 1 October 2009 (BST)
  2. Yes --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:21, 1 October 2009 (BST)
    No - As Boxy. --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:39, 1 October 2009 (BST)
  3. ?' Are they causing a problem of some sort? If so then I see no reason not to. --Honestmistake 12:11, 1 October 2009 (BST)
    No Sorry Bob, Boxy convinced me too. Without a very good reason I am unlikely to change my mind again. --Honestmistake 13:09, 1 October 2009 (BST)
  4. No - There are problems with this scheduled deletion criteria already, it doesn't need strengthening -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:35 1 October 2009 (BST)
  5. No --SirArgo Talk 17:21, 1 October 2009 (BST)
  6. yes Because actually whats left in unused images isn't of huge use. Besides with a shorter time span, if I had it saved on my computer on monday to upload, I probably have it still saved the following monday. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:58, 1 October 2009 (BST)
  7. No While I feel one month is too long for the amount of images that get uploaded and forgotten, one week is much too short- users could conceivably upload a few images for a page or project, get sidetracked in real life for a week, and return to find their images had been deleted. I would support shortening it down to two or three weeks, but one week is just too short.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:34, 2 October 2009 (BST)
  8. No - But only because, as I said on IRC, 2 weeks is more apt in my opinion. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:13, 2 October 2009 (BST)
  9. No - As redhawk and boxy.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 14:55, 2 October 2009 (BST)
  10. No - because the original schedule is fucked up in the first place. Back in the day of Crit12 groups used to be deleted, and when their owners requested the page to be undeleted it couldnt be fully because the images were deleted, without the required period to deem them unused has passed. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 21:25, 2 October 2009 (BST)
    Good thing Crit 12 doesn't exist anymore, eh? Cyberbob  Talk  00:34, 3 October 2009 (BST)
  11. No - Perhaps two weeks or 15-20 days would be suitable but one week is much too short. The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new 00:09, 3 October 2009 (BST)
  12. Nope - --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 00:15, 3 October 2009 (BST)
  13. No - I think 2 weeks is a more suitable alternative. --ZsL 01:37, 3 October 2009 (BST)
  14. no whats the damn rush? some people don't live on this wiki. and need more time to edit or complete projects. shit. goddamn.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 15:03, 4 October 2009 (BST)
  15. Weak No - As Boxy. Not like the server's going to explode if we don't delete images quickly. Linkthewindow  Talk  06:55, 5 October 2009 (BST)
  16. No -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 07:30, 5 October 2009 (BST)
  17. No --Papa Johnny 17:29, 7 October 2009 (BST)
  18. No --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 19:27, 7 October 2009 (BST)

Failed with 2 for and 16 against. Cyberbob  Talk  06:36, 15 October 2009 (BST)

0x0 Images

As you can see by this example: Image:2cola.jpg, 0x0 images are unusable images that come across once every while. It is a result of offering a corrupt file to the wiki. The images are unusable and already deleted without thought on A/SD. Because users get redirected to their image once they've uploaded it, the author of the image is already made aware of it's state and hence all 0x0 images I've seen get discarded upon upload. I'd like to submit these images for scheduled deletions. --ϑϑ 15:08, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Note: Rooster fixed the above image as part of his comment below. See the broken one in revision history. --ϑϑ 03:06, 29 July 2009 (BST)
Don't you think it would be a better idea to not just delete them, but to try to fix them if they are recent uploads that have gone wrong? There is often content there (such as in this case), it's just that it needs converting over to the proper format. Help the newbz -- boxy talkteh rulz 06:58 29 July 2009 (BST)
Don't stereotype this as a noob mistake because it isn't. If you want to fix it before the user does, you can upload it over the broken one and then delete the 0x0 revision as per this scheduled deletion? --ϑϑ 11:11, 29 July 2009 (BST)
Yes I can, and will. But if this is only supposed to apply to the 0x0 revision, after attempts have been made to fix the problem, then you need to withdraw this vote, and start again with it worded properly -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:20 3 August 2009 (BST)
  1. Yea - I wanted to make a clause that ensured sysops also notify the author that their image got deleted, but decided it was unnecessary since, as above, all authors see their work after the upload anyway. --ϑϑ 15:08, 28 July 2009 (BST)
  2. Yea Procedural C.Y.O.A. All for it... Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 16:15, 28 July 2009 (BST)
  3. Yea - Sounds good. --User:Axe27/Sig 16:51, 28 July 2009 (BST)
  4. No - to deleting the page outright, you can usually save these images from the revision history. I fixed the above example and it's now a prefectably usable image. Yes to making the 0x0 revision a scheduled though, after the image is saved (or if it cannot be). -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:38, 28 July 2009 (BST)
  5. Yea - What is the point of having extra storage space on this site getting filled up with nothing? Paradoxical sure but there is no point to having useless images that take up space. Aka Paradox 19:00, 28 July 2009 (BST)
  6. Yea - As above. If there useless then what's the point? --MTRemick T | C | Fey | NBC 19:06, 28 July 2009 (BST)
  7. Yes after - As Rooster, no to deleting it outright if it can be fixed.--SirArgo Talk 19:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
    No - I need to definitively pick a side, so no it is.--SirArgo Talk 22:34, 3 August 2009 (BST)
  8. No There's still content there that can often be fixed -- boxy talkteh rulz 06:58 29 July 2009 (BST)
    In my experiences, all users who upload one of these images end up uploading a dupe anyway, before we even find it, let alone delete it. --ϑϑ 10:31, 29 July 2009 (BST)
    I've seen group images "updated" with these type of mistakes, and still included on a page. They'll need reverting, not deleting -- boxy talkteh rulz 10:40 29 July 2009 (BST)
  9. Delete with the proviso that the image be at least a week old, thats plenty of time for them to either fix or ask for help. --Honestmistake 10:41, 29 July 2009 (BST)
  10. No - Because you guys have not clue what you're doing, just fix it by going to the hard file link in the image area and reuploading like non-cunts would do. --Karekmaps?! 01:02, 30 July 2009 (BST)
    This scheduled doesn't stop us from doing that if a 'non cunt' sysop, or even user, is so inclined, it would just allow us to delete the revision afterwards to keep things clean. --ϑϑ 03:58, 30 July 2009 (BST)
    No, you could have already done that, you're just making policy spam now. If you really thing that it's misconduct to delete these or that any of you are petty enough to file and support that case you've got a whole different set of problems. Image revisions are already scheduled. --Karekmaps?! 00:34, 3 August 2009 (BST)
    woah, hard-hitting on-the-money grizzled veteran of all things wiki spotted! --Cyberbob 04:16, 30 July 2009 (BST)
  11. No and then Yes as the rooster explains. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:47, 2 August 2009 (BST)
    Way to confuse the process. Just vote no, because your yes is for a different scheduled deletion that isn't even up for voting -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:12 3 August 2009 (BST)
  12. No and then Yes - as above. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:50, 3 August 2009 (BST)
    Just straight No now. Linkthewindow  Talk  22:30, 3 August 2009 (BST)
  13. No --Midianian 18:29, 3 August 2009 (BST)
  14. No - --Thadeous Oakley 20:03, 5 August 2009 (BST)
  15. N/Y - As Rooster --Haliman - Talk 20:07, 5 August 2009 (BST)

Failed, with 5 for and 9 against. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:36, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Removal of the porn scheduled deletion

Title says it all. We remove the porn scheduled deletion. Each time it's been used, it's spawned a misconduct case so it's clear it isn't working from the "communities" point of view. The most gaping area with the current one is the lack of definition - although I thought about replacing it with "Photographic depictions of human genitalia and female nipples will be deleted on sight" although that just leaves gray area (although it's been reduced,) and we'll get bogged down in definitions again. If someone uploads an offensive image, then they get taken to A/VB. If the case is ruled vandalism then the user receives a warning and the image is deleted (this is already covered under the fact that all vandalism is deleted.) To warn users about the consequences of uploading potentially offensive imagery, "uploading inappropriate (eg. sexually explicit) images may be deemed to be vandalism and deleted as such without notice" will be added to MediaWiki:Uploadtext (the text that is displayed when uploading a file.)

To summarize, the porn scheduled deletion is removed on A/G. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:54, 19 July 2009 (BST)

Please skim through the discussion regarding this before voting. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:17, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  1. For - the current system means that the decision will be made by the one sysop that set the strictest of standards, without the need for any form of consensus -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:09 19 July 2009 (BST)
  2. Yes - It will be interesting to see whether people receive backlash for taking people who have uploaded what they perceive to be offensive images, but others don't to A/VB. Having said that this is definitely the lesser of a number of evils. --Cyberbob 14:10, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  3. Yes please - i don't think that'll be interesting at all bob, but finally we have some freedom of image around this dump.--xoxo 14:12, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    Was just a bit of humourous understatement :\ --Cyberbob 14:15, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  4. Yes --ϑϑℜ 14:12, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    Edit: Boxy was right. --ϑϑℜ 14:26, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  5. Yep - As boxy. --Midianian 15:01, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  6. for we don't want or need actual porn here but some of the stuff that gets called porn is clearly very far from being such. --Honestmistake 15:22, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  7. Aye - As the box. -- Cheese 15:51, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  8. Against For- This was never really a big problem until someone went batshit insane and put a bunch of perfectly fine images up for deletion as "pornographic". Meanwhile, sysops need the power to delete obviously offensive images on the spot and immediately. Can you say "goatse", kids? --WanYao 16:15, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    It was a problem before that, Nubis and SA have both been taken to A/M over it. These misconduct cases were both linked to in Link's introduction to this vote. --Cyberbob 16:22, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    I read those. And it's a rare problem. And a "problem" common sense and not being a puritan shithead will solve 90% of cases. Talking it over will deal with the other 10%. --WanYao 16:28, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    Rare? Those two misconduct cases represent the only two times the current scheduled rule has been used. --Cyberbob 16:31, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    Stop edit conflicting me. Anywaaaay... So this is a new crit or what? Please linky me to the date it was implimented, because I seem to recall it being here forever. And tell me, how were the goatse images deleted in the past? And is there another method for immediately deleting obviously offensive images? I'm talking goatse here... Or obvious porno, i.e. depictions of intercourse, masturbation, etc. etc.? If there is, I support removing the porn crit.... if not, something needs to stay. --WanYao 16:35, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    22 July 2008. Wording ripped off from barhah.com's rules. Interesting.... But something has to be in place to remove gravely explicit and offensive images... Propose a change/replacement... then we'll talk. --WanYao 16:39, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    He probably won't bother until you and your following manage to get majority on this vote. --ϑϑℜ 16:49, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    My following?! Now that was droll! --WanYao 16:50, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    Indeed. --ϑϑℜ 17:48, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    DDR...please don't. --Cyberbob 16:58, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    The biggest problem with immediately deleting a completely obvious porno shot these days - whether we have a policy allowing it or not - is that there is a much higher chance of drama being generated over it because "how do I know it was what you say it was?" than there used to be. All someone needs to do is give the shit they're uploading an innocuous-sounding name and all bets are off, particularly since the sysop that deleted the image is often the only one that saw it. Can you imagine trying to sell an A/VB case on a user who uploaded "sunshine.JPG" for uploading explicit porn? Ideally we should just be able to rely on common sense for deleting obvious porn on sight and A/D for the more ambiguous things but look where doing either of these things got us even with a policy in place. --Cyberbob 16:51, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    Goatse images have been deleted on sight and the user permanently banned in the past. It was pretty obvious what they were doing, frankly. I think the image was called duck, in case anyone was wondering. :/ --  AHLGTG 18:30, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    Right... and now all someone has to do is upload something highly explicit... give it a nice name... and then it gets displayed and voted on for 2 whole weeks! Can't you see why something has to replace the current crit before it's just scrapped? You didn't answer my question: what recourse does a sysop have, after this schedule is removed, to delete offensive images without being misconducted??? I'm actually looking out for the sysops here... you just don't see that, probably --WanYao 19:28, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    No, clearly inappropriate images can be deleted as soon as they are reported on A/VB, and confirmed by someone credible so that they can act as a witness that the image is as described. Usually goatse (or similar) will be found by some other user and reported to A/VB in short order by an ordinary user. The first sysop along can delete immediately because images deemed to be vandalism are automatically deleted as bad faith edits -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:57 19 July 2009 (BST)
    Quoting myself: "If someone uploads an offensive image, then they get taken to A/VB. If the case is ruled vandalism then the user receives a warning and the image is deleted (this is already covered under the fact that all vandalism is deleted.)" Linkthewindow  Talk  01:58, 20 July 2009 (BST)
    boxy answered my question. But, Link, and I don't mean to be a jerk... but you basically confirmed my worst case scenario in your "reply"... and didn't tell me how the image doesn't stay up while going through a/vb. anyway, vote changed. --WanYao 06:13, 20 July 2009 (BST)
  9. Yes - Alleviating dramaz. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 16:47, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  10. For I know this has been an issue for some time,.... like when gage was still here as a moderator, he did some of that ASCII art, of a naked woman. This went back and forth.... it's nice to see this revision. -Poodle of doom 18:00, 19 July 2009 (BST)
    you mean this ? --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 19:58, 20 July 2009 (BST)
    Yeah, that would be the one. -Poodle of doom 23:11, 20 July 2009 (BST)
  11. Yar --  AHLGTG 18:30, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  12. Yea But the criteria for porn should be reworded so that non-explicit sex acts must be deemed porn by some kind of majority--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 18:31, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  13. For --SirArgo Talk 18:36, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  14. Yes - Well, it obviously needs to be replaced because it isn't working. --User:Axe27/Sig 19:36, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  15. Yes - nuff said --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 23:21, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  16. Yea indeed --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:13, 20 July 2009 (BST)
  17. YAY --Orange Talk 18:38, 20 July 2009 (BST)
  18. You're all being dumb - It's all stupid really. It never should have needed adding to scheduled but it was done because some of you threw fits, now it's being removed because some of you threw fits. The short and log of it is this stuff is vandalism, if you're posting it it's deleted as vandalism and you're escalated and filing a case about it is harassmentvandalism, all of you know better. --Karekmaps?! 09:33, 21 July 2009 (BST)
  19. For -- As long as images that are OBVIOUSLY offensive are taken care of, which I trust they are. Chekken 05:54, 27 July 2009 (BST)
  20. For - Urban dead has become the only place on the internet where porn is not the lions share of images. Aka Paradox 03:18, 30 July 2009 (BST)
Passed - 19 For. The Pornography scheduling below is rescinded. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:35, 2 August 2009 (BST)

Adbot related pages

Any page created by an adbot, or created to reference a particular adbot, or any comments about a banned adbot, are to be deleted. This includes the deletion request of such pages/comments itself (after a period of three days after the deletion request was proccessed) --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 18:19, 15 July 2009 (BST)

For those voting against this, a word on how search engines work: web crawlers read the content of your page and associate whatever keyword they find to the link. If an adbot creates a user page with the name of a product he is selling, this page will count as a mention for that product's keyword, hence strengthening its value on the search engine. This is a lesser problem with simple comments but actual pages with the products name can be harmful to this community (like, simply saying spam product is less harmful than linking to a page named whatever spam product). This criterion might appear heavy-handed on removing all comments, but it serves two purposes: a) guarantes that the relevance of any search for these keyword wont be improved by this wiki and b) guarantes that the relevance of any search about urbandead wont be mixed with one of a spammer site. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 23:27, 19 July 2009 (BST)
Not quite. In short, once any external links are gone, mentioning the product will not benefit the spammer or harm UD. --Midianian 00:06, 20 July 2009 (BST)
  1. Yes - remove all of their spam, and all reference to them, so that even bots that advertise their wares in their user name get nothing... NOTHING! They are scum of the earth, give them no quarter -- boxy talkteh rulz 10:33 16 July 2009 (BST)
  2. Yes Not even an eighth. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:36, 16 July 2009 (BST)
  3. Against - because there are perfectly legitimate reasons for speaking about a banned adbot (such as if we want to contact the creators.) I would be fine with this if it only banned those that mentioned the product they are selling in their username (such as the last few,) but deleting all comments about any adbot is overkill. Linkthewindow  Talk  12:23, 16 July 2009 (BST)
    Not a bad idea, just links or comments quoting the names of the ones advertising with their username -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:08 16 July 2009 (BST)
  4. No - Too draconian, and almost impossible to completely enforce. --Cyberbob 12:24, 16 July 2009 (BST)
  5. Against - as link (plus this). --ϑϑℜ 12:32, 16 July 2009 (BST)
  6. weak against remove the "comments about banned adbots" and this would be a Yes --Honestmistake 12:46, 16 July 2009 (BST)
  7. Yes - When did we start creating user pages for these guys? =/ -- Cheese 21:44, 16 July 2009 (BST)
  8. No - Adbots aren't some eldritch abominations from beyond time and space. The mere mention of their name is not going to bring down their wrath upon our heads (or make people want to buy their products, or improve their search rankings). Not even ones that have a product in their name. This is pointless censorship. --Midianian 15:37, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  9. No - As Cyberbob. --User:Axe27/Sig 19:37, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  10. No - As link. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 19:46, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  11. AgarnstWanYao 06:14, 20 July 2009 (BST)
  12. Nay - As Link --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 18:31, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Failed with 3 for, 8 against. --ϑϑ 04:28, 30 July 2009 (BST)

Adbot-created pages

Since Hagnat apparently thinks we need to codify the scheduled deletion of adbot pages, and I don't see any particular reason why we shouldn't... I propose that any and all pages created by adbots be officially KOS. --Cyberbob 17:32, 15 July 2009 (BST)

adbot created pages are already supposed to be KOS. I meant that pages, links and comments referring to adbots should be KOS. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 17:43, 15 July 2009 (BST)
You make the bloody vote then. Leave this one alone though. --Cyberbob 17:50, 15 July 2009 (BST)
  1. Yes --Cyberbob 17:32, 15 July 2009 (BST)
  2. Yes - Baleet them from existence entirely. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 17:34, 15 July 2009 (BST)
  3. Yes -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:38, 15 July 2009 (BST)
  4. Yes - Not any more work to delete the stuff again if the same adbot comes back. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 17:51, 15 July 2009 (BST)
  5. Yip--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:35, 15 July 2009 (BST)
  6. Yea - Everyone was happy with this already being the case but w/e. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:19, 16 July 2009 (BST)
    You try fending Hagnat off for the sixth time at like 3 in the morning. Easier just to say 'whatever dude' and make a harmless vote than argue about it. --Cyberbob 02:22, 16 July 2009 (BST)
    Yeah it was aimed at Hag. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:33, 16 July 2009 (BST)
    im still kind of groggy okay >_< --Cyberbob 03:02, 16 July 2009 (BST)
  7. Yes - de facto this way already, but no problem in setting it in stone. Linkthewindow  Talk  02:59, 16 July 2009 (BST)
  8. No - pointless repetition. Adbot pages are deemed to be vandalism, which is removed automatically -- boxy talkteh rulz 10:30 16 July 2009 (BST)
  9. Yea - Nothing wrong with having it written down somewhere. --User:Axe27/Sig 06:51, 18 July 2009 (BST)
  10. No - As boxy. --Midianian 15:02, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  11. No - As boxy. --WanYao 16:17, 19 July 2009 (BST)
  12. Yea - For sake of making it official --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 18:33, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Passed - 9 for, 3 against. --ϑϑ 04:28, 30 July 2009 (BST)


Crit 11

  • Non-existent User Page: The page is a User: page for a user that doesn't exist, and any content on the page has been moved to the appropriate User: or Journal: page.

A Crit 11 is a rare criterion which should be a scheduled deletion. The pages serve no purpose on the wiki, are already deleted on sight through A/SD, and because of the last requirement: "and any content on the page has been moved to the appropriate User: or Journal: page", to qualify as a Crit 11, these non-existant user pages have to be duped somewhere else upon deletion, also classing them as Crit 1's.

I proposed that confirmed Crit 11's be deleted on sight, because to be a crit 11 the information needs to already be duplicated in the correct user/journal space and hence the incorrect page holds no value on the wiki when it is submitted to A/SD, through its current system. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 06:14, 15 June 2009 (BST)

  1. Yes. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:30, 15 June 2009 (BST)
  2. Yes - Bob Boberton TF / DW 07:46, 15 June 2009 (BST)
  3. Less Red Tape = Good That's a yes, by the way. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:50, 15 June 2009 (BST)
  4. Yes --Janus talk 13:01, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  5. Yes Death to useless bureaucracy! --Honestmistake 13:17, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  6. This isn't really needed because after you've moved the content to the user's subpage it can be deleted as a unused redirect. However, for clarity's sake Yes. -- Cheese 13:59, 16 June 2009 (BST)
    There's been a few examples where they've manually moved it to a subpage (after realizing their mistake,) but not A/SDing it, or where it's a dupe of their user page (typo, etc.) So a scheduled unused redirect deletion doesn't always hold ;) Linkthewindow  Talk  14:02, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  7. Yes--C Whitty 14:47, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  8. Yea --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:10, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  9. y.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:16, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  10. yes Asheets 16:01, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  11. YAY! --Orange Talk 16:19, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  12. Cut the red tape. Yes --– Nubis NWO 17:11, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  13. Kill with fire. Yes. --Haliman - Talk 19:21, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  14. Yes --Met Fan F 20:18, 16 June 2009 (BST)
  15. Yes Wait... I must be the only stupid person here. I don't understand what this means. Does this mean, for example - "User:X" was dormant, and you wanted to delete "User:X/Shitystuff", you could, but only if "User:X/Shitystuff" was moved somewhere else first? Where would the content go? EDIT: Thanks for explaining.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 00:40, 17 June 2009 (BST)
    It's if there's a "User:X" page or subpages for a user that doesn't exist (no Wiki account), then that stuff is moved to the "User:Y" page or subpages where User Y is the actual person behind creating and maintaining the User X page. At least, that's what I got out of it. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 00:52, 17 June 2009 (BST)
    It's usually a case of 'User:L33tKiller' makes his userpage at 'User:L33tZombieKiller' because that is his character name (but the wiki account for that page doesn't exist), then realises what is going on and manually moves it. It's a rare case, but it happens from time to time. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:42, 17 June 2009 (BST)
  16. Yes--Thadeous Oakley 15:12, 17 June 2009 (BST)
  17. Yes - Deleting things make me feel powerful :) --WanYao 06:19, 18 June 2009 (BST)
  18. Do it --Pyrranha 22:15, 18 June 2009 (BST)
  19. Burn the witch! Do it. (She turned me into a newt! ...I got better.) --V2Blast TP!CSR Remove the strike and this comment when you sign your vote properly. --Cyberbob 13:35, 21 June 2009 (BST)

Approved with 18 for an 0 against. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Crit 7 by Proxy

If a user leaves a sysop a note on their (i.e the sysop's) talk page requesting deletion of a page that falls under Crit 7, the Sysop may delete the page on sight, making clear in the edit summary that the user requested it via talk page.

  1. Yar - Doesn't happen often, but would trim that pesky tape a bit. -- Cheese 20:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. Yep - As long as the edit summary links to the talk page. We shouldn't be encouraging people use sysop's talk pages for deletions, but this does cut down on the red tape for newer users who don't know the system. Linkthewindow  Talk  20:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yep as long as the request os mentioned in the deletion log. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:08, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yea - All Crit 7 really requires is the author showing they actually want the page gone and it being a reasonable request. Cementing this in the actual rules is nothing but a good thing. --Karekmaps?! 21:16, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
  5. Yes - I guess so. --ZsL 21:23, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Good idea.-- Adward  20:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
  7. Yay - Less red tape. --Janus talk 21:05, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
  8. Yes - This makes sense. --Lois talk 10MFH 15:54, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
  9. Yep - Sounds good. --D.E.ATalk 16:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
  10. Yes I wish we could get Crit 1's in this way too tbh. --– Nubis NWO 01:26, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
  11. Yea - Simpler. Better. In my opinion, anyway.--Ryvyoli Y R 08:55, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
  12. No - crit 7 is an author only edit, if it was restricted to pages only in their own namespace I would agree, however often group pages are only edited by one wiki-literate member. They shouldn't be allowed to request the deletion of group pages with no record left as to why except on some other users talk page (sysop talk pages can be simply wiped after all). There are also many template pages that are used by all over the wiki that have only been edited by one person, they shouldn't be deleted without the chance for review on A/SD. History wipes also make it hard to tell who created or edited older pages. Crit 7 isn't as simple as it may seem, and so shouldn't be open to scheduled deletion -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:33 17 March 2009 (BST)
    Crit 12 still applies on all groups and if there was actual content on the page hopefully the sysop that got the request would be able to determine if the request should be honored. Also, the difference between say a "play on names" template like the slew that Tselita created and a Danger Report template is vast. We do still have an Undeletions page in case an error is made.--– Nubis NWO 13:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
    The abolition of Crit 12 has nothing to do with Crit 7. The templates I was referring to were ones like this. If they're being used on other people's pages, they shouldn't be seen as being "owned" by the sole contributor, and Crit 7ed. Crit 7 needs watering down, not being made even more arbitrary, in that the author only has to convince a single sysop to get rid of it, and no one else will see it because they don't watch people's talk pages like they do A/SD. This has nothing to do with Teslita's stupid templates, which would go under crit 10 if they're not used -- boxy talkteh rulz 00:59 18 March 2009 (BST)
    convince a single sysop to get rid of it Here is your problem. You don't trust the judgment of the sysops. Sysops that got the position based on knowledge of the wiki, policy, and desire to contribute. Yet, now you seem to think that they aren't competent to know when a page should be kept or deleted. If you trust them enough to ban users why say they can't delete pages? Besides, worst case scenario, gods forbid you have to click *undelete*.--– Nubis NWO 18:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
    Sysops make mistakes. Yes, restoring is easy, but who's going to notice the error? The request is only on your page and only sysops can access the page (and the page's history). There aren't that many of you. --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 19:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
    "If you trust them enough to ban users why say they can't delete pages?" Because we can't ban users without saying why on an admin page, same should be true with deletions unless they're extremely cut and dried, which crit 7 isn't! -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:42 24 March 2009 (BST)
    No, it pretty much is. If they want their page deleted you delete it, if they didn't you don't and it's abuse of privs. --Karekmaps?! 14:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
  13. Yes - As link. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
  14. Yes - I approve.--ScouterTX 17:18, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
  15. Yes - Fund it. _Vic D'Amato__Dead vs Blue_ 23:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
  16. No - As boxy. Perhaps something should exist to handle cases like this, but definitely not a scheduled deletion. --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 19:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
  17. Yes - Makes sense.--MTRemick 21:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
  18. Yarp - I think people misunderstand this, if someone requests a page deleted, which is clearly crit 7, then the sysop deletes it. If there's uncertainty, they may request on A/SD beforehand or simply deny the request in the first place. --  AHLGTG 22:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
  19. No - The stupidest idea I've heard in the last 10 minutes with the possibility of extreme abuse due to other scheduled deletions criteria. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
  20. NAY - A flat out stupid ide, this idea should be put up for speedy deletion --Imthatguy 21:01, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
  21. No --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 22:50, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
  22. No --Cyberbob 22:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
  23. Mostly yes, I trust the rest of the team not to mess up.--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 00:11, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
    Well, not to mess up too much. :) --Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 00:12, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Two weeks are up and this has been approved with 18 for and 5 against. -- Cheese 21:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Amendment to Rule 1

Current Rule: Unused Image Removal - Images on the Unused Image list that are a month old are to be deleted.

Exemption Clause - Any images that are used in various status based templates will be exempt from being deleted. Examples include:

Since these are dependent on the status of various things, it's possible that they may occasionally become unused, and if they are over a month old, they might very well get deleted by accident. I make this request because it's already happened, and of course you can't undelete images.

These images could be allocated a new category for ease (Say: Status Components, or whatever sounds appropriate) and anything categorised as such would fall into this exemption. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 18:53, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Yay - Logical enough, although we should upgrade so we can undelete images ;). Linkthewindow  Talk  20:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC) User strike Linkthewindow  Talk  12:10, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
  1. Nay - Needless duplication, repetition, and complication. Just image ark them on a project subpage or include them in a visual example. We don't just delete willy nilly but we also can't be expected to know every template inclusion of an image on the wiki. --Karekmaps?! 20:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  2. No As Karek. We've been through this before with the Mall images and at that time the images were arked for future use. --– Nubis NWO 22:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. Nay As Karek. Long may his common sense rule on all wiki's --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:51, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
  4. Noy - it's not always obvious, so including them somewhere is the best way to keep them off the unused image list. The sysops do have to be careful though -- boxy talkteh rulz 00:34 25 January 2009 (BST)
  5. Nyet - What boxy & Karek said. --ZsL 05:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
  6. Nay - As boxy, Ross, and karek. I should read up on my Wiki history in future. Linkthewindow  Talk  12:10, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
  7. Not this is an unneeded rule. Just create an archive page for these images and they will never be listed as Unused. --—The preceding signed comment was added by Hagnat (talkcontribs) at 13:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Not passed. --ZsL 05:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

User Page Redirects

User page redirects in the main space should be delete on sight as crit 3 or 9. The community voted against keeping them and in all fairness no one should have one. The exception will be Kevan. Redirects to permabanned vandals do not fall under this as they are for posterity and record keeping.

  1. Yea The A/D votes settled it for me. This is the next logical step.--– Nubis NWO 14:01, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  2. Yea - the limited pagenames in the main namespace is not to be used up with hundreds of user page redirects, and neither should it be that popular users should be exempt from the A/SD criteria because they can manufacture A/D votes -- boxy talkteh rulz 21:51 7 November 2008 (BST)
  3. Yea - Fits in nicely with the scheduled deletion after moves. --  AHLGTG 21:53, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  4. Aye - The people have spoken. Let it be so. -- Cheese 22:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Sounds good. --ZsL 22:17, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Can't see a problem with it. Linkthewindow Talk 23:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  7. Yea - No user redirects in the main namespace. --Midianian Big Brother Diary Room: [523,07] 23:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  8. Yea - This has been the case for years. The only reason it's even an issue is because for the first time the idiots trying to buck the system for their own benefit have actually bothered to contest the rulings. One rule for everybody (except Kevan obv). --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 23:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  9. Yes - I spose this should be enforced to the end right? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:54, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  10. Yea As much a I enjoy Rosslessness, lets kill em. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 02:33, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    We really will need a UHUB, won't we? --  AHLGTG 02:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    We sure will... Linkthewindow Talk 13:56, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    I've started a discussion about how a UHUB might work here. Just to get some community consensus before actually creating one. Linkthewindow Talk MCM 06:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
  11. Yea - makes sense. --PdeqTalk* 05:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  12. Yup - Community vote on a few shows they aren't wanted, might as well clear this up for the future then.--xoxo 05:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Nomination passed unanimously -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:29 25 November 2008 (BST)

Attack Pages

Pages made solely to attack/discredit/whatever another user (example: User X is a filthy PKer, we must killz him nao! or the recent Boxy/Ioncannon is a cunt) can be deleted on sight.

  1. Aye - Some of this is already scheduled (solely vandal pages) but this just takes care of Trenchy n00bs posting their grievances all over the place because someone killed them. -- Cheese 22:15, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  2. No - pages may be made, esp. in the group or user sub-page area, to discredit players or other users (ie. this). Pages that use extreme swearing in their titles, however... -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:19 7 November 2008 (BST)
    I'm meaning in the main namespace. User and Group pages are fine. I really should have put that in. =p -- Cheese 22:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    I still think that arbitration or vandal banning are better ways to determine the outcome in attack pages. It can be a tricky area that may need extended discussion, rather than just a single sysops opinion on the intent of a page. The ones titled "xxxx is a cunt" could probably be taken out though, as pure flamebait -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:30 7 November 2008 (BST)
  3. Weak Yes - Just determine what an "attack" is, and don't delete pages in a user subspace. Linkthewindow Talk 23:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  4. Nay - Mostly as boxy. --Midianian Big Brother Diary Room: [523,07] 23:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  5. Yea - In the cases where the nature of the page is not blatantly obvious (which is the case 99% of the time) common sense should apply. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 23:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    If something requires a "common sense" decision, it shouldn't be approved for scheduled deletion. Scheduled deletions should be only for things that are black and white decisions, otherwise it should be discussed on A/SD -- boxy talkteh rulz 01:57 8 November 2008 (BST)
    yes 01:54, 8 November 2008 (UTC) unsigned -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:00 8 November 2008 (BST)
  6. Nay as mid. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 02:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  7. Nay - As car ick. --  AHLGTG 02:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  8. No - Covered under vandalism, everything else has an arguable purpose.--Karekmaps?! 20:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  9. No - To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  10. Yes If it is covered under a vandalism delete then there is no reason for it not to be "scheduled". If it is going to be reported as vandalism because it is an attack page it should be deleted. If it is going to be deleted as an attack page it should be reported as vandalism. That simple.--– Nubis NWO 22:54, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    Sure there is, it's called the No Needless Policies rule. If a law serves no purpose it shouldn't exist, this would serve no purpose and just serve to add to the already large amount of text new users need to read through to find stuff that does actually matter. Vandalism is removable on sight, that alone is more than enough.--Karekmaps?! 16:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  11. Yes You Betcha.. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 02:11, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  12. No - a/vb.--xoxo 07:05, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  13. Aye - If you're looking to change someone's behaviour, making an attack page about them is much more likely to get their back up than to convince them of the error of their ways. So I think the ill-will generated by these sorts of pages outweighs any informational benefit they may have. Still, Boxy does have a good point that the line between okay and not-okay for a page like this is not always obvious, and so for these sorts of decisions, going through a process like A/SD or A/D that gives (at least) a second opinion is useful, in showing fair process and avoiding drama. If putting attack pages through A/SD was an option on the table I would support it, but delete-on-sight is the option that's available, so it'll do. With regards to just treating this as vandalism, it can be may be too easy for sysops to say something like 'Sysops are not moderators' or 'those old civility policies got rejected' and let people get away with making pages to insult or demean others. The advantage of having something like this spelt out is that it stops that. --Toejam 07:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
    You know, you can propose it as a policy and it'll be put to a full vote. That's how crit 12 both was made and died along with pretty much every new sd crit beyond the originals.--Karekmaps?! 23:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Nomination defeated 6 yes to 7 no -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:29 25 November 2008 (BST)

Swearing in Page Titles

Pages that have swearing in the title that is directed at a user or group (or their actions) are to be added to the scheduled deletions list. This would include pages like "boxy is a cunt" or "petition to ban that bastard hagnat" but not pages like "Blackmore Bastards". Other examples of swearing in page titles should be taken to A/SD or A/D for removal.

  1. Yea - flamebaitery via page creation should be deleted on sight -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:37 7 November 2008 (BST)
  2. Yes As Boxy. Linkthewindow Talk 23:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  3. Nay - If the only objectionable thing is the title, you could just move the page. Moves can be done on sight, you know. --Midianian Big Brother Diary Room: [523,07] 23:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  4. Yea - If the title of the page is flamebait-y, its content is hardly likely to be in good faith either. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 23:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  5. Aye nuff said already --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 00:00, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  6. Yes - As Cyberbob. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:54, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  7. Yea. As DDR. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 02:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  8. Aye - As Ross. -- Cheese 19:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  9. No - You need to show bad faith first; No vandalism without vandalism. As Midianian who speaks more sense than all these sysops that don't seem to know what they can already do.--Karekmaps?! 20:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  10. No - Not a cut and dry issue, should be taken to A/D for community discussion. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  11. No - All of these should be discussed. --  AHLGTG 20:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  12. Yes As Cyberbob.--– Nubis NWO 22:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  13. Yea As my sweet Aunt Esther Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 02:04, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  14. Yea --Toejam 04:00, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  15. No - i agree with the case by case people.--xoxo 07:03, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Nomination passed 10 yes to 5 no -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:29 25 November 2008 (BST)

Attack Images

As the attack pages heading pretty much, except that images are a radically different beast due to their ability to be placed anywhere.

  1. Yea - Reasoning already given. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 23:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  2. No - not unless you can give a satisfactory definition of what an attack image is -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:05 8 November 2008 (BST)
    That image would not be considered an attack image because of how obviously a satire it is. I'm thinking of something like a derogatory portrayal of what the uploader might think the subject might be IRL, or maybe a photoshopped version of a photo of them or something of that nature. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 03:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    Perhaps a little reading would be appropriate, as Grim and Bob knew what I had meant, hence the reason why it was on their pages. Now then. I believe the types of images that Bob is referring to is like the one in this vandal banning report. You know, the image and template that called for a specific user's death? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 16:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    Sarcasm: witty language used to convey insults or scorn. Sarcasm is a witty form of attack, Akule. Just because Grim sees and collects attacks on him as some sort of badge of honour, doesn't make it less of an attack. I know what Bob is getting at here, but there is no clear way to draw a line between unacceptable attacks on a persons character, and sarcastic wit. Take it to A/SD -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:20 9 November 2008 (BST)
    Yet, you were unable to read from my link and had to look elsewhere to get your definition. 2  :trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly . There is a simple different between poking fun at someone and threatening their life (even in jest). I think that is a pretty clear distinction, don't you? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 01:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
    Your link was unavailable when I tried to check it. It works now, and it's first definition is Satire: a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn. Ridicule and scorn. Yep, similar to the definition I gave, it's an attack on someone's behaviour. All I'm pointing out is that with such a loosely worded policy, such images could be wikilawyered to fit, and be gone in an instant. All it would take is one sysop who wanted it gone -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:49 11 November 2008 (BST)
    Yes but, a few sysops have already notably made that mistake. --Karekmaps?! 20:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    Perhaps some distinction should be made in order for people to determine the difference. You know, like some sort of line in the sand stating "This is okay, but this is not." --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 01:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
    Oh, so now you agree :) -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:49 11 November 2008 (BST)
  3. No - As Boxy. Linkthewindow Talk 13:56, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  4. No - Everything that needs covering under this already is covered and removable on sight. This argument has already been had out multiple times, just dig through Boxy's archives if you want to find at least two of them.--Karekmaps?! 20:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  5. No - To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  6. Nay - As Karek. --Midianian Big Brother Diary Room: [522,08] 22:43, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  7. Yes Peace... Land... Bread... Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 02:05, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  8. No - bad idea, once it's gone it's gone and as we all know sysops make mistakes from time to time.--xoxo 07:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  9. Yea --Toejam 22:01, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Nomination defeated 3 yes to 6 no -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:29 25 November 2008 (BST)

Unused Templates

If a template is not linked to any other page in the wiki, and the last edit to such template was made more than 3 months ago, it can be removed on sight.

  1. Aye --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 00:09, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    So... does that "linked" really mean "linked", or do you mean "included"? --Midianian Big Brother Diary Room: [502,08] 02:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    If a template is even just text linked that will show up on other links, unlike with images. If an image is just text linked it won't show up.--– Nubis NWO 22:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    Yes it will, if you look at the whatlinkshere page for the image -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:13 9 November 2008 (BST)
    Not always. Right now on my sandbox I have a text link to Lady xXx Death.jpg and it doesn't show up on the what links here and the image still shows up on the Unused Files page (no. 4 at this time).--– Nubis NWO 04:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
    That's because you used an external link to the image. Any page linked in that way wont show up in the "whatlinkshere" page. Proper formatting fixes that... [[:Image:Lady xXx Death.jpg|link]] -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:39 11 November 2008 (BST)
    You proved my point. I have a functioning text link to that image. You also have a functioning text link to the image. Both links still work so there really isn't an issue of which one is "proper format". If my link wasn't "proper" it shouldn't work. The point is you can't assume that every user will format exactly the same way when all people are concerned about is if it works how they want it to.--– Nubis NWO 20:43, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
    The point is that the whatlinkshere link works exactly the same for images as it does for any other page on the wiki, templates included. If a template is text linked in the same way you did with that image, it wouldn't show in whatlinkshere either -- boxy talkteh rulz 21:26 14 November 2008 (BST)
  2. No - not all unused templates should be deleted. Often ones that are only used to "subst:" onto a page come up as unused. Giving sysops carte blanche to just wade into the unused templates list and start deleting will see these taken out with no record of why, or what was on the page for regular users to decide if they should ask for it to be restored -- boxy talkteh rulz 01:54 8 November 2008 (BST)
  3. No - Let's not get carried away with all these scheduled. As boxy. --  AHLGTG 02:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  4. Nay Take the current list of unused as an example, put them all up for deletions. They wouldnt all be killed. Theres quite a few that are subst-ed in. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 02:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  5. No - Should be put on A/SD first. Some people may have the subst-ed in. Linkthewindow Talk 13:56, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  6. No --Karekmaps?! 20:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  7. No - Is it stupid ideas day? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  8. Nay - Deleting unused templates only makes them inaccessible. There's little point in deleting them unless their content is objectionable. --Midianian Big Brother Diary Room: [522,08] 22:41, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  9. Yes Because the number of unused useful templates (Template:HistoricalEventVoting) to "attack" templates (Template:Saromu is Devil (improved)) to retarded templates (Template:Tomatoes) is ridiculous. (yes, I know tomatoes is in use, but that is the type I am talking about.) --– Nubis NWO 22:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  10. No - Because this is clearly just an attempt to justify Nubis's template deletion in retrospect. -- Cheese 18:46, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
    NO, this is me following the advice of those who said that if i am unhappy with the system, its better change the system (rather than yell at it and keep ignoring it) --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 18:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
    Cheese, that isn't a justification for not scheduling templates for deletion. That is an accusation and assumption of motive. Also, you should realize that even if they are voted as scheduled it wouldn't be retro-active and couldn't be applied to the case. Vote on the suggestion not the suggestor.--– Nubis NWO 04:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  11. Yesjust because I can...Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 02:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Strange to see a deletionist proposal from Hagnat, but there you go. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 07:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
  13. No - I think it would be best for templates to go through SD. --ZsL 18:48, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Nomination defeated 4 yes to 9 no -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:29 25 November 2008 (BST)

Abandoned Group Pages

Any group page that has had no edits made to it for more than a month and consists of no more than a group box and a few lines of generic text may be deleted if the following conditions are fulfilled: 1) There is no evidence of the group appearing on the Game Stats page. 2) A note has been left on the creators talk page asking them about the group's status. 3) The aforementioned note has not been replied to within 7 days, or the response was for deletion.
If after the week, there has been no reply (or the response indicated that the page can be deleted) the page may be deleted. If the user replies after the page has been deleted that they still want it, it can simply be Undeleted. If there is any doubt whatsoever, the page should be placed on the Deletions page as normal. -- Cheese 21:21, 11 July 2008 (BST)

  1. Yea - There's a lot of these about nowadays. -- Cheese 21:21, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  2. Yea - same as Krazy monkey, too many dead groups.
  3. Nay Original author may no longer be active, or they may have migrated to a forum. a week is too short a time (I'd double it). We may have lost crit 12, but people can, and do use deletions. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:40, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  4. Nay - Things like group pages need to be judged on a case by case basis, or have much stricter requirements on what allows them to be a scheduled deletion. --PdeqTalk* 22:35, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  5. Nay - As above. Also some groups may only consist of a handful of members and not be large enough for the stats page, and may not have a frequently updated news section. I know if it was based only on updates the Feral Undead page would have been deleted a dozen times already. and i also agree that the warning should have a longer grace period, one week is hardly enough for the average user, they don't log in as often as us wiki addicts. --Bullgod 23:18, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  6. Nay - Above lists it well. Activity on the Wiki does not equal activity on UD. --Rogue 08:42, 12 July 2008 (BST)
  7. Absolutely not - These go through speedydelete so that everyone can easily check that they actually are crit 1's, and it's much less of a hassle than checking to see if you get a reply from a hardly active author -- boxy talki 11:57 12 July 2008 (BST)
  8. No - Crit 12 will not be returning.--Karekmaps?! 16:46, 12 July 2008 (BST)
  9. No - above. --WanYao 21:36, 12 July 2008 (BST)
  10. Nay - Even dead pages are a useful resource. But as Rosslessness. --Vandurn 22:21, 12 July 2008 (BST)
  11. No - again, some groups are under-represented on the wiki, regardless of presence in the game. This kind of punishment for not keeping up appearances on the wiki leads to the kind of misrepresentation of actual game situation that should be avoided--Crabappleslegalteam 00:45, 13 July 2008 (BST)
  12. Nay - As above. --Private Mark 22:06, 13 July 2008 (BST)
  13. HELL NO - go clean up something in RL instead.----SexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 04:45, 17 July 2008 (BST)
  14. Fuck no - Crit 12 shall never return in any form. --The Grimch U! E! 17:59, 20 July 2008 (BST)
Vote fails. 2 for, 12 against. --The Grimch U! E! 18:24, 26 July 2008 (BST)

Crit 1 Extension

Any page with less than 4 characters (including blank pages, although obviously not those which are because of vandalism, and not including pages with a template since a template has to have at least 5 characters ({{?}})) that have been that way for at least a week may be deleted on sight. -- Cheese 18:46, 11 July 2008 (BST)

  1. Yea - Pinched out the shiny new archive since it had only one valid vote. :) -- Cheese 18:46, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  2. No - Impossible to verify to ensure this wont be abused. Simply having them all put up on A/SD every few months is more than enough to get rid of the clutter, and it doesnt really take very long to do. --The Grimch U! E! 18:49, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  3. No - It's not the issue it was when I first proposed a similar scheduling.--Karekmaps?! 19:40, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  4. No - Give them 2 weeks and I vote Yes. --WanYao 20:15, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  5. Change - How about instead of being a delete on sight or having to be placed on A/SD we make it so that if you find a mostly blank page you post on the creator's talk page telling them it needs content then after 2 weeks if it isn't changed you can delete it. This way we don't delete a page too hastily, we document that we intend to delete the page (same function as posting it on A/SD), and besides the author might reply to your post with a "go ahead" giving that sysop approval to delete it.
    And in regards to being abused, we are supposed to be trusted users here. All actions on this thing are documented and traceable back to the person that did it. If someone's page is deleted it can be restored (unlike images). If a sysop is in the habit (more than twice) of deleting pages that people keep requesting undeleted then that is clearly misconduct.--– Nubis NWO 20:40, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  6. No, I agree than the majority of dead groups won't have a leader around (or one who chooses) to notify others of them.-- Techercizer (Food) (TSoE) 06:33, 12 July 2008 (BST)
    P.S. Nubis disrupted the number order, can someone put a Re: tag in? I'm not familiar with the coding.
    All fixed --The Grimch U! E! 07:08, 12 July 2008 (BST)
  7. No - how about we just post them to the speedydelete queue to ensure that the page wiping hasn't been done by someone unauthorised to do so -- boxy talki 12:00 12 July 2008 (BST)
  8. No - again, this is all very arbitrary--Crabappleslegalteam 00:47, 13 July 2008 (BST)
  9. "NO"--the economy33
Vote fails. 1 for, 8 against. --The Grimch U! E! 18:24, 26 July 2008 (BST)

Pornography

Pretty simple: Porn is to be deleted on sight. I like porn, you like porn, but this isnt the place for it. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 18:06, 8 July 2008 (BST)

  1. yea. its not really the place for file sharing is it? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:17, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  2. Yes. I thought we already had a TOU cover for this, but if we need to nail it down with a scheduled deletion then I'm all for it. Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 21:45, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  3. Yea. --PdeqTalk* 21:56, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  4. Yea. Should go without saying, but just in case. --Sir Bob Fortune RR 22:17, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  5. Aye. -- Cheese 22:22, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  6. Yea. --  AHLGTG 22:26, 8 July 2008 (BST)
  7. Yes -- I think we should expand the definition to include uncensored nipples and and any visible genitalia. I don't have anything against nudity, but there shouldn't have to be a WORK SAFE/NOT WORK SAFE warning on the wiki. (text is different).Just to be on the safe side.--– Nubis NWO 23:18, 8 July 2008 (BST)
    Since when is a zombie apocalypse wiki work safe anyway? :S -- Cheese 20:39, 9 July 2008 (BST)
    Haha - Let's have the whole what is text rape argument again! That was a hoot.--– Nubis NWO 20:50, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  8. No - Because we need a definition of "porn". And the whole idea that what is porn vs. what is art? is often debatable. I mean look at photobucket, for example... Deleting art left right and centre, losers. Still, I think no photographic nudity, as per nubis, is pretty acceptable and if such a definition were added, I'd certainly vote Yes. --WanYao 20:13, 11 July 2008 (BST)
    I think this may have come up because someone uploaded an image that was basically a woman's gaping vagina forming the mouth (and considerable beard!) of a dwarf with MSPaint eyes and helmet. That is neither artistic nor overtly sexual or portraying a sex act, but still pornography. Unless you want to classify it as gynecology. I think in blatant cases like that the whole "but is it porn?" debate is moot. --– Nubis NWO 20:49, 11 July 2008 (BST)
    that would be obscenity not pornography... there is a huge difference. That said actual porn should be banned but certainly not images which are merely "raunchy" the problem here is going to be definitions. I know people who think page 3 and FHM are porn while i know of one person who is adamant that his copulating werewolf/human pics are "interspecies erotica"; he's wrong in oh so many ways but still!--Honestmistake 20:59, 11 July 2008 (BST)
    Using your definition of "raunchy" tubgirl is just raunchy. Would you allow that on here? I think it comes down to "is this appropriate or just for shock value?" For instance, with my example, that's just shock value. With Bullgod's fine art it can be appropriate (on a museum page or relating to a group perhaps). Outside the context of fine art meaning classical statues/paintings, I really can't see any reason to post nudity on this wiki. I also don't think that any sysop on here is so new to the internet that they would get offended by a Page 3 girl or FHM. Hell, I wouldn't even be offended by tubgirl, but I know that's not appropriate for the wiki. I don't think this is something that needs a rigid definition. I think it comes down to do we trust the sysops judgment on what would be appropriate.--– Nubis NWO 00:16, 12 July 2008 (BST)
    Gad, that was a retarded example, Nubis. Those are all retarded examples. The reality is that most calls are going to be obvious... However, there have been calls to delete the Slaves of the Mistress wiki in the past... So, there ARE people who're going to try to impose their morarlity on things that are not obviously over-the-top images. But... then again... But you kids wanna play this game, with these definitions and examples? Ooooookay... Here's an issue: the gore and the violence that is represented visually on here (it *is* a horror genre game, after all...) is just fine for a 12 year old kid to see? but a nice artistic picture of a naked woman? BANNED CENSORED ZOMG BOOBIES!!! --WanYao 21:47, 12 July 2008 (BST)
    Ok, Wan, then what is the answer on the gaping vagina dwarf picture (which is a real example of something that was uploaded)? Is that in genre? Is that appropriate? Is that art? It isn't about censorship. It's about what is appropriate to a zombie apocalypse wiki. Violence and gore are standard to the genre. Did you happen to miss the part where I said With Bullgod's fine art it can be appropriate (on a museum page or relating to a group perhaps). or do you just want to argue with me and use all caps to spew catchphrases and say BOOBIES? And where the fuck did this 12 year old kid come into play? This isn't a "think of the children" argument. It is a "How does this giant picture of a vagina as a dwarf fit in with zombies" discussion. (at least in these indents).
    But, I will admit that my no visible genitalia/nipples comment is a bit confusing. The intent wasn't against artistic nudity in classical art, but against posting things like cam whores writing people's character's names over their tits.--– Nubis NWO 22:47, 12 July 2008 (BST)
    I just think it was silly, by both you and honestmistake, to bring up examples that are so obviously inappropriate... very man-o-strawish... As for everything else, you're kind of arguing around me, or beside me, or something... Because we're pretty much in agreement here... Except that I put forward the caveat that one man's art can be another man's obsceneity, thus we have to be careful. That's all. I honestly seems like you're arguing with me just for the sake of arguing with me here. Whatever. --WanYao 09:24, 13 July 2008 (BST)
    Ok... but let's bring up something else... you mentioned what's part of the genre... gore is part of genre... yes... And, ok, the Romero movies do not have nudity, but a HUGE section of the genre elsewhere DOES. Return of the Living Dead has ZOMG not only boobies, but FULL FRONTAL. Nudity being part of the whole B-movie sexploitation horror genre, within which a giant chunk of zombie flicks fit... basically we're talking out our asses here now, because close-up money shots are not fucking appropriate. Photos of chicks shooting wet farts 6 feet in the air are not appropriate. Any idiot can figure that out. So why are you arguing with me? Beyond that, I've already said where I stand. --WanYao 09:36, 13 July 2008 (BST)
    This whole side debate is a good example of why formalizing it in this manner is probably a bad idea, we all know what is meant by the proposed policy, it's not complicated.--Karekmaps?! 00:55, 14 July 2008 (BST)
    Uhm... yeah... this discussion kind of got out of hand... Anyhoo... And if there is debate on a particular image, whether it's pr0n or art? Well... it can go to a vote and the community decides its standards and boundaries. --WanYao 03:54, 15 July 2008 (BST)
    Vote on a scheduled deletion? The whole point of scheduled deletions is that it's immediate. No, someone's just going to delete it and end up in misconduct. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 12:07, 15 July 2008 (BST)
    I am not talking about scheduled deletions anymore. Some things are going to be pretty obvious, and will be immediately deleted. Others, which are not obvious, will be put to a vote. i.e., the status quo -- but I'm kinda defining my preferred methodology within it... --WanYao 03:01, 17 July 2008 (BST)
  9. yea, but only half way. i agree with no genitals, but a bare behind or a woman's bare chest are not enough to warrant me calling something pornography. thats like saying the Venus De Milo or Picasso's famous Blue Nude are inappropriate, and im not willing to go that far. --Bullgod 23:36, 11 July 2008 (BST)
  10. yea, but leave the debate open as to what is and isn't porn. I do agree, however, if anyone posts any long films of people having sex that they should be removed.-- Techercizer (Food) (TSoE) 06:32, 12 July 2008 (BST)
  11. No - already covered under the automatic deletion of bad faith vandalism, and this just opens the door for people to delete images, call them porn (a hard to define concept in the gray areas) and have no comeback. If someone is uploading porn to the wiki, the evidence should be kept at least long enough for another sysop to make or confirm a ruling of vandalism -- boxy talki 12:05 12 July 2008 (BST)
  12. No - As Boxy, it's needless repetition, just deal with it how we always have.--Karekmaps?! 16:45, 12 July 2008 (BST)
  13. No - As boxy. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 17:15, 12 July 2008 (BST)
    Also, a dwarf made from a gaping vagina isn't porn. A still from a sex-ed video isn't porn either. This is (everyone's favourite word) reactionary, redundant, and fails to address what it aims to do. It seems suggestions and policies are not the only things that would benefit from a bit of discussion before voting. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 12:54, 13 July 2008 (BST)
  14. Yea The wikization of the UD wiki is needed. They have all that red tape because it works. --User:Axe27/Sig 21:53, 12 July 2008 (BST)
    Actually they have most of their red tape on wikipedia because it doesn't work and they don't know how to make it work.--Karekmaps?! 00:48, 13 July 2008 (BST)
  15. Yea - What is said is said, and no doubt a definition will be provided. --Vandurn 22:24, 12 July 2008 (BST)
  16. Yes - again, care should be taken to avoid abuse --Crabappleslegalteam 00:52, 13 July 2008 (BST)
  17. No - As boxy. This is redundant. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 02:24, 13 July 2008 (BST)
  18. Yes - As above. --Private Mark 22:07, 13 July 2008 (BST)
  19. yeah - Maybe just change it to not worksafe images in general? Padfu-Zomfu 17:36, 20 July 2008 (BST)
  20. Yes - Author vote --The Grimch U! E! 18:00, 20 July 2008 (BST)
Scheduling approved, 15 for, 5 against. --The Grimch U! E! 18:24, 26 July 2008 (BST)

Personal information

If a user wants personal information about themselves deleted from the wiki, they should be able to get it speedy deleted. Things like your name, your phone number, your email or home address, your workplace, pictures of your family etc. We can't stop someone who is determined to spread your private details, but at least we can not let them use the wiki to do it. Toejam 18:37, 9 April 2008 (BST)

  1. Yea - Private info can't go through normal deletions because it would just draw attention to itself, and give google's cache more time to store it. --Toejam 18:34, 9 April 2008 (BST)
    Hmm...not a lot of people have seen this. Maybe policy discussion is a better place. --Toejam 15:08, 11 April 2008 (BST)
  2. Yea - Exceptions should be made to mudkipz, they need to die. --  AHLGTG 03:28, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  3. Yea - Sure. --ZsL 20:58, 15 April 2008 (BST)
  4. Aye - could be abused, but the admin staff should be able to solve this kind of cases. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 21:03, 15 April 2008 (BST)
  5. Nay horseys - 1. Wrong Place, 2. Already covered in, if not by word, by the spirit of the existence of the UDWiki:Privacy_policy, if we can't give out personal information(IPs) why would personal information(street addresses, phone numbers, etc.) be given out. Especially considering you can use one to get the other. I'm sure there's more policy on this somewhere but even if there isn't spamming other user's personal information is vandalism, easily.--Karekmaps?! 18:02, 17 April 2008 (BST)
    The privacy policy covers how data gathered through server logs or administrators' IP checks will be released, but it doesn't cover regular wiki users, only mods, nor does it cover information gained by methods other than server logs or IP checks. And this SD would allow anyone to have their personal information taken off the wiki, not just if the info was being spammed. --Toejam 20:24, 24 April 2008 (BST)
    This would be an incident where I'd recommend you trust a SysOps judgement in this instead of insisting every little thing we can and do do be mentioned in a policy somewhere. It's bad for the wiki and it's bad for users trying to understand the rules of the wiki. If this kind of information is being posted somewhere alert a SysOp and they should deal with it, I know if it's mentioned on my talk page or A/VB, etc. I'll make it a top priority to not only delete it but to remove it from the histories as well.--Karekmaps?! 23:58, 24 April 2008 (BST)
  6. Yes - Although I don't think it needed spelling out. It's one of those things that hardly ever comes up, but is covered under sysops are also given the authority to make decisions regarding actions for which there is no governing policy in place -- boxy talki 00:34 25 April 2008 (BST)
  • Approved -- Cheese 18:33, 11 July 2008 (BST)

Crit 1 Extension

Any pages with 4 or less characters on the whole page, this includes blank pages with 0 content but not pages with templates(all templates are an absolute minimum of 5 characters). This would allow crit 1s made by users moving their own pages then wiping the old ones able to be deleted on sight.--Karekmaps?! 02:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

This does not include vandalized pages, obviously.--Karekmaps?! 02:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
  1. Nay - I dono, a lot of users clear pages, than add content a little while later after someone speaks to them or for whatever other reason. --  AHLGTG 03:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
  2. Yea - I suppose this will help clear up some of the confusion. --User:Axe27/Sig 20:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. Yea - Make it so they have to have been blank for 48 hours. -- Cheese 20:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
  4. Nay Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 20:46, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
    Man you guys are late.--Karekmaps?! 17:57, 17 April 2008 (BST)

Image hosting

Screenshots uploaded for the purpose of image hosting should be deleted immediately on sight. This is a wiki, not imageshack or Iwitness.

Examples would be PK/GK/RK/Zerg report images. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Grim s (talkcontribs) 17:00, November 30, 2007 (UTC).

  1. yeaNo for now - I assume this doesn't include anything in use. --Karekmaps?! 17:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC) Boxy has a point, if a minimum time for existence is added I'll re-add my yea. --Karekmaps?! 02:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. no - Any screenshots that are being used on the wiki are fine, and any that arn't being used are already covered under unused images, and deleted -- boxytalk • 00:06 1 December 2007 (BST)
    This doesnt affect those being used, and for unused images you have to wait a month. This is to dispose of such images quickly and efficiently to discourage the use fo the wiki as an image hosting service. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 01:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
    How long would we give them to link to the image though, before zapping it. That, and the fact that it only refers to unused screenshots, needs to be spelled out in the proposed change before I would vote for this -- boxytalk • 01:40 2 December 2007 (BST)
  3. Nay Not until you are more clear on the time limits. --User:Axe27/Sig 19:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
  4. No - Screenshots can have legitimate purposes on the wiki besides PK/zerg reports; e.g., as examples or how-tos. There's no clear way to know whether a screen has been "uploaded for the purpose of image hosting". -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 00:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

The future contents of Special:BrokenRedirects

If I'm reading Deletion Scheduling correctly this is the right place to put this.Currently redirects left over from pages move may be deleted without going through the deletion pages. I propose to extent this rule to redirects broken by page deletion by allowing redirects that lead to nonexistent pages to be deleted without going through the deletion pages.- Vantar 18:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

  1. Yea author vote - Vantar 18:58, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  2. Aye --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 19:23, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  3. Yea --  AHLGTG 19:26, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  4. Yeah - Why not? --Toejam 20:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  5. yes --~~~~ [talk] 13:49, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
    Yea --User:Axe27/Sig 19:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
    Voting close a couple of weeks ago -- boxy talki 23:28 31 December 2007 (BST)

Copyrighted images requested to be deleted by the copyright holder

Copyrighted images or otherwise images taken directly from a copyrighted source (such as a movie's snapshots) that have been requested to be removed by the copyright's holder or its representatives abroad.'

  1. Yea - If only to make it clear that these have to be deleted for the good of wikikind. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:33, 27 October 2007 (BST)
  2. Nay - It's covered under policy, and pages can already be deleted when "acting in accordance with approved policies" -- boxytalk • 04:39 27 October 2007 (BST)
    But, wich policy? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:05, 27 October 2007 (BST)
  3. Yea - Needed to justify differences. --User:Axe27/Sig 04:40, 27 October 2007 (BST)

Unused redirects resulting from page moves

If there isn't already a policy covering the automatic deletion of unused redirects (except for links from admin pages, eg. A/MR) resulting from page moves, I think we should be able to nuke them as soon as the page is moved, rather than spamming speedydelete -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 05:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

  1. Yea -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 13:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  2. Yea Vantar 03:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
  3. Yea Daniel Hicken 00:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC) Maybe shouldn't vote here, but as a wiki admin on two other wikis, YES, for your sanity, YES.
  4. Yea --User:Axe27/Sig 17:41, 13 April 2007 (BST) Hey, I'm just following Hicken's que.
    Well it's passed already, but thanks for the thought ;) -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 17:51, 13 April 2007 (BST)
    Your welcome. --User:Axe27/Sig 18:18, 13 April 2007 (BST)
  5. Yea -The man 21:18, 25 July 2007 (BST)

Unused Images

Images that have existed for 2 weeks and are not used in any page.--Gage 05:59, 25 October 2006 (BST)

  • Yea - Gage 05:59, 25 October 2006 (BST)
  • Yea - --Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 06:01, 25 October 2006 (BST)
  • Yea - --CaptainM 07:24, 26 October 2006 (BST)
I'm fairly certain we already have a policy on this (difference being it says one month). –Xoid STFU! 19:04, 27 October 2006 (BST)
  • Yea - The man 21:17, 25 July 2007 (BST)

Monumental Screwups

Two special case scenarios that I want to be able to annihilate on sight, are:

  1. Pages in this form: With//////Too Many//////Bloody//////Slashes
  2. And pages in this dreaded form: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Example_monumental_screwup

Since these pages cannot be moved, useful content will have to be manually copied first. –Xoid STFU! 05:54, 9 August 2006 (BST)

Associated talk pages

Change the entry about talk pages from:

  • Missed talk pages - The page is a Talk: Page from a previous deletion request that has not been deleted with the request

to:

  • Associated talk pages - Talk pages associated with pages that are deleted under other policies, including talk pages missed in previous deletions.

This just covers the current practice of deleting talk pages when the main page goes. I cant see where it is spelled out -- boxy 21:56, 21 July 2011 (BST)

  1. Yea -- boxy 21:56, 21 July 2011 (BST)
  2. Yea ~Vsig.png 22:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
  3. Yea --Rosslessness 22:03, 21 July 2011 (BST)
  4. Yes - I'm not clear on what this really changes, but it's the way it should be done, regardless. Aichon 22:06, 21 July 2011 (BST)
    In practice, nothing changes. It's just a more appropriate description of what we already do, rather than selecting crit 5 here -- boxy 23:16, 21 July 2011 (BST)
    Ah, makes more sense in that context. I forgot about those new menus. Aichon 00:32, 22 July 2011 (BST)
  5. Yes --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 22:06, 21 July 2011 (BST)
  6. Yes - It always seemed silly to me that I had to use "missed talk page" despite the fact that I was doing it at the same time as the deletion and had not missed it.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 22:20, 21 July 2011 (BST)

Crit 9

9. Personal Page (Prefix Rule): The page is named after a user without the "User:" or "Journal:" prefixes and its content has been moved to the appropriate User or Journal page. Includes pages that should be User subpages, ie. in-game characters.

This really should be a scheduled deletion and in fact is already treated that way I believe. I was surprised to see this had not already been voted on. ~Vsig.png 16:41, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

  1. Yes Author vote. ~Vsig.png 16:41, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
  2. Yes - It's how we do it already anyway.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:05, 15 August 2011 (BST)
  3. Yes - Currently it's been done as a scheduled move and then scheduled deletion of the redirect resulting from the move, but it makes sense to have this as a solid rule.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:23, 15 August 2011 (BST)
    WTF? It doesn't make sense at all, to make yet another rule when it's already adequately covered -- boxy 10:22, 17 August 2011 (BST)
    Boxy speaks truth! All Hail Boxy! Boxy for Bureaucrat!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 10:35, 17 August 2011 (BST)
  4. Yes - Never hurts to actually write down active practice. -- Spiderzed 17:31, 15 August 2011 (BST)
  5. Sure. The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new 21:39, 15 August 2011 (BST)
  6. no - needless, the intended use is covered by moved content. This speedy applies to almost duplicated content which actually shouldn't be scheduled.(it's crit 1 without author request). --Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:52, 15 August 2011 (BST)
    So look guys, here's the thing. Speedy crits exist so users can request deletions at a quickened pace, Scheduling exists so sysops can quicken universal maintenance. If something is speedy it doesn't need to be scheduled unless it's like deleting old image revisions. Lately this seems to have been forgotten, as shown by requests like this one. Stop with the excessive duplication simply to allow sysops to circumvent standard user procedure that applies to everyone else it can, and has, only caused problems. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 00:02, 16 August 2011 (BST)
  7. Same situation as crit 11s which eventually became scheduled for the same reason -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 00:09, 16 August 2011 (BST)
    So "Yes" then? ~Vsig.png 00:14, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
    Yes, sorry. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 00:15, 16 August 2011 (BST)
  8. Yes - Pointless bureaucracy is pointless. No need to have people request these, just as there's no need to have people request Crit 5. Aichon 04:48, 17 August 2011 (BST)
  9. Yes --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 05:23, 17 August 2011 (BST)
  10. Yes - Wyronth 05:56, 17 August 2011 (BST)
  11. Not really needed. Usually these are covered by the scheduled deletion of the unused redirect when the page is moved to the right location -- boxy 10:20, 17 August 2011 (BST)
  12. nah as square stuff above.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!   אמת 14:26, 22 August 2011 (bst)
  13. Yes We already do it, doesn't hurt to trim some of the fat!--Catmeowpuss.jpg 08:50, 29 August 2011 (bst)

Passed with a 79.9% majority. ~Vsig.png 15:07, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

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