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This page is for system operators to request a demotion of status, or for enaction of demotion due to long-term inactivity. The act of demotion is restricted to those with bureaucrat status, and as such system operators will need to request their demotion here.

Guidelines for Demotion Requests

Request

System operators who wish to request demotion must consider these things before applying.

  • Reason for demotion - As demotions cannot be reversed unless the user goes through the promotion process again, the user is asked to make sure that they are making the correct decision when applying for demotion.
  • Effects of demotion - Demotions may necessitate additional action, such as in the case of a Bureaucrat being demoted, which triggers an immediate by-election to fill their seat for the remainder of their term.

After a system operator has submitted his or her demotion request, the active Bureaucrats will review it, and after reaching a unanimous decision, choose to either demote the system operator or deny his or her request. After action has been taken, the request will be moved to the archive.

Inactivity

Crystal Clear app xmag.png main article: Policy Text

  • A sysop that hasn't made any edit in four months will be warned, on their talk page, by a Bureaucrat, that they face demotion of their sysop powers in one week, if they remain inactive.
  • One week after the warning has been placed, dependant on the actions of the sysop, the Bureaucrat will decide whether or not to carry out the demotion.
  • This is to avoid, for example, the unlikely case of a sysop simply making a single edit with the aim of avoiding the demotion.
  • The Bureaucrat is trusted and bound to make a fair decision, and not to demote a sysop who clearly demonstrates a return to activity on the wiki.
  • Any demonstrable abuse of this power by a Bureaucrat, however unlikely, could (as with any other abuse of specific powers) be grounds for a Misconduct case.
  • If the sysop makes no response at all to the warnings, they must be demoted.

Demotions in process

Aichon

To cut to the chase, I'm resigning both as a 'crat and sysop effective 23:59 November 30th, 2018 (edit: see below). I plan to process my own demotion at that time and will not be a candidate in the resulting 'crat election.

I know this will come as an unexpected surprise to most of you, which is why I'm announcing it now rather than at the last moment, but hopefully it's not too much of a surprise to anyone. After all, I stopped playing the game well over a year ago, so it was really only a matter of time. And after I very nearly quit earlier this year, which some of you noticed at the time, the writing has kinda been on the wall.

My running for 'crat in this last election—despite my six-year tradition of withdrawing from every election—is a way for me to perform one final act of service to the wiki before I bow out for good. So for those of you on Discord and elsewhere who have been wondering what changed and why I decided to run in the election this time, now you know.

Once my term is up, I'm gone, so now's the time to hit me up (on my talk page) for assistance with any pet projects you may have on the wiki or whatnot. This may also be the time to push through some A/PM applications. Just sayin'. ;)

UD has been a part of my life for nearly a decade now, and it's been both my privilege and pleasure to serve the wiki community for the vast majority of that time. It's encouraging to see the wiki being continually maintained, not just by a small team of sysops, but also by an active team of regular wiki users who are routinely fixing formatting, updating danger reports, answering questions, and engaging with one another on talk pages in an effort to improve the wiki as a whole. Keep up the good work, all! Aichon 18:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the (very advance) heads up, Aichon! I'll be sorry to see you go, but completely understand your reasoning.
One question: Would you consider resigning effective 0:01, December 15th? That way you can administer the election/promote your successor, rather than us having only a single crat for that two-week period (I trust Stelar not to pull a Thad, but don't want her, or anybody, to be stuck with the crat job alone for that long). Bob Moncrief EBDW! 13:34, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
I’ll consider it, certainly. My thinking was that I’d disrupt things the least if my departure triggered an election at the same time we were due for an election anyway, but I can see the argument for seeing the election through. No promises, but I’ll give it some more consideration as we get closer. Aichon 13:50, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Following up on this, I'll see the election through. Doing so is the last duty of any 'crat, after all. With that in mind, I'm amending my demotion to be effective as soon as this upcoming 'crat election ends. Aichon 16:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
We will have to drag this election out for as long as possible. And use every legal and illegal trick available to sneak in Aichon as a crat candidate. -- Spiderzed 00:51, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
I was just going through your options in my head, but I'm pretty sure I've got them all covered. I can initiate the election myself if no one else does and I can end it myself if Stelar suddenly disappears, even if there's something odd like a three-way tie. You might try something out-of-band, such as a baseless Misconduct case against me to drag things out, but I'll just ignore it (or enjoy the fact that you've hastened my departure, if it's found to have merit) since I'm leaving anyway. :P Aichon 15:59, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
New plan: all (or all but one) of us withdraw instantly upon the opening of the election, so Aichon (and one other person, whoever can't make the prescheduled time) is elected crat by acclamation. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 23:54, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Backup plan: meatpuppet to ensure a tie. When its up to Aichon and Stelar to decide, Stelar goes AFK and if Aichon chooses without consultation we misconduct him, leave the case open indefinitely and if he self-demotes we force promote his account back. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 11:56, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Or... we just have me as a lone 'crat for a whole term?? Surely something like that can't go wrong? :P stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 12:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Even if I win the election in some weird way, I’ll simply demote myself, thus triggering another election, which was my original plan to begin with, if you’ll recall. And if Stelar goes AFK, the Misconduct case for promoting a replacement wouldn’t have any merit and I would have faithfully discharged my duties, so I could leave with a clear conscience quite easily. Besides which, there’s nothing stopping a ‘crat from casting a tie breaking vote at the last moment. ;) Aichon 16:53, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
You'd think I'd leave this place all of a sudden? Not likely when there is an election coming up. Actually, I should probably start campaigning everywhere for that... stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 11:50, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
no. stay. i'm the one who leaves. The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new 18:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
I think the world is large enough for both of us to leave. Together. Some others can come along too if they want. Aichon 17:33, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
No. Everything outside of this wiki is mine. The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new 17:41, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Not gonna work for me. A guy’s gotta have a place to retire. Aichon 19:18, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm extremely sad to see this. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:41, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Nope. Sadness not allowed. Out with the old, in with the new. This is a change for the better. Aichon 17:33, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Will you still remain around within the community in some capacity? THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 00:03, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Afraid not. The wiki is the only part of the community I still check. I lost interest in IRC when I went inactive in-game. The Barhah forum died. The Philosophe Knights forum died. The SoC migrated to Discord. I stopped bothering with Discord. You get the picture. I mean, it’s not like I’ll refuse to post on the wiki if someone shoots me a question on my talk page, but I don’t lurk around any forums or channels right now, and I don’t plan to start doing so once I drop the wiki from my daily routine in December. Aichon 06:35, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Oh man! Sorry to hear this, but I understand completely. Please email me when you leave with the most effective way to permanently break UDWIKI. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:32, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

I have so many ideas. So far, the best I've come up with could be undone by a sufficiently technical sysop, but I'll see if I can come up with something that'd require a rollback of the database, at a minimum. Aichon 18:06, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

since when were you allowed to leave your cage -- Adward  17:44, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

You guys left your posts, so I took advantage of the opening to make my escape. Aichon 18:06, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
As long as you don't find where we placed the tracking implant, we're always going to find you. --  AHLGTG 21:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

That's okay. I'll just create an impersonation account and pretend to be you. --  AHLGTG 21:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I deem this acceptable, so long as you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are me. Aichon 21:23, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:49, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

The port is near, the bells I hear... Aichon 16:09, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Recent Actions

Boxy

Boxy technically hit the four-month mark on Wednesday, but I just poked his talk page, so the official week starts now. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:13, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

With no response for more than a week, I've demoted Boxy. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:01, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
The end of an era. Aichon 17:13, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Goodnight, Sweet Prince. - Cheese 15:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
You basically shot an old, but very well loved dog. Ugh. --  AHLGTG 18:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for always being there Boxy, during the best and worst of times. For what it's worth, I probably wouldn't have been able to do the years of work I did in admin without you being the rock of the team for those years. I won't forget the work you did. Thanks for it all. A ZOMBIE ANT 07:12, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Dear lord. Miss you box! Come back, before there's just me left. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:24, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Spiderzed

I have always said that I wanted to fill my spot as long as the community wants me to hold the buttons, but frankly I am not sure that is much of a "community" left to evaluate my conduct, other than a few fellow forgotten sys-ops still walking the dusty halls and occasionally throwing a switch. I haven't played UD in a long while, I've got plenty of other things to do now, and it is probably best to let it go while there is still a greater fool staying around longer than I do.

As far as my wiki history goes, I think I have done well enough, but I will leave it to others to write my eulogy rather than to bathe myself in stinking self-praise on the way out.

As a final, special request, I want to be demoted on February 13th, the day of my 7th anniversary as a UD Wiki sys-op. -- Spiderzed 21:12, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear you're opting for demotion, but I respect your decision and thank you for your service. I'll ask for confirmation in early February, so feel free to cancel your demotion anytime before Feb 13th. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:03, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Take care, Spiderzed! --  AHLGTG 18:43, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
I will. -- Spiderzed 18:39, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Keep Safe, don't be a total stranger. I'm sure Kevan will throw up a massive update soon. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:53, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
The Big Survey was in 2015, and nothing has happened since. I will revisit if anything ever comes from it, even if it is something small and ridiculous like a new melee weapon being just a re-skin of the cricket bat, but I am not holding my breath. -- Spiderzed 18:39, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
We're starting all of those groups back up again. The ones you loved playing in. All of them. Don't go. Aichon 23:15, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
I've seen some gay old times. Curbstomping Cornhoolio, curbstomping NWO, going full aikido on the The Original Cobra to curbstomp them, the Big Bashes, 404, Blackmore 404, rounding up Escape, just to name a few. But the last of these events (NWO) was in 2013, and I don't see the fun, acive times coming back anytime soon. Necroconnect brought a brief hope for a breath of fresh air, but yet everything has kept unravelling and falling apart. Who is John Galt? -- Spiderzed 18:39, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
i am the community and you must stay foreverrrrrrrrr -- Adward  18:56, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Nice. Smooth sailing, and may the grass never grow under your feet! ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 09:12, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

As the date approaches — SZ, are you sure you want to go? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 03:50, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Confirmed. -- Spiderzed 13:00, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
You've been demoted. Come on back anytime. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:01, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Bismarcks Ruecktritt.jpg -- Spiderzed 20:29, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Will you at least let us drag you back in when there's drama? If only to point and laugh? Aichon 23:12, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
It's been great to have you around Spiderzed. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:29, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Older actions can be found in the Sysop Archives and the relevant category.


Sysop Activity Check

User Position Last Contribution Seat Available
A Helpful Little Gnome (Contribs) Sysop 2018-08-17 N/A
Aichon (Contribs) Bureaucrat 2018-08-21 2018-12-01
Bob Moncrief (Contribs) Sysop 2018-08-21 N/A
DanceDanceRevolution (Contribs) Sysop 2018-08-21 N/A
Rosslessness (Contribs) Sysop 2018-07-21 N/A
Stelar (Contribs) Bureaucrat 2018-08-21 2018-12-01

Total Sysops: 6 (excluding Kevan and Urbandead)

Last updated at: 10:11, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

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