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This page is for the requesting of page moves by normal users. The average user's ability to move pages has been rescinded due to frequent abuse by vandals; as such, users will need to submit requests (similar in nature to those on Speedy Deletions and Protections) for pages to be moved by a sysop.

Guidelines for requesting a Page Move

Copy the template below (Or just type it), replace the text in red with the relevant details, and paste the template under the Move Request Queue heading. A day after a sysop has taken action on the request, move requests should be moved to the Archive.

===[[PAGENAME]]===
*[[MOVE TO HERE]]
*~~~~

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Recent Actions

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Logbook to The Italian Stallions/Logbook? - Poodle of Doom 01:17, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Moved ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 04:53, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Mayor of Malton

Moving preserves the talk page and edit history and allows us to put together a write-up about the event(s) while preserving the historical record of the event pages, themselves. Cheers! ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 03:56, 1 September 2010 (BST)

Moved, and the original made into a disambig until someone creates the overview page. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 04:53, 1 September 2010 (BST)

FL's kills

User page in article namespace. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 10:24, 29 August 2010 (BST)

Moved to User:FL/kills to be in line with the user's capitalisation.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 11:42, 29 August 2010 (BST)

Talk Pages of Redirects

So discussion matches article. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:33, 27 August 2010 (BST)

Moved.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:53, 27 August 2010 (BST)

User:Chief Seagull/So you've decided to become a zombie

Might as well move this out of userspace, I'm guessing Guides:So you've decided to become a zombie would be the best destination. Chief Seagull squawkFree running! 10:44, 24 August 2010 (BST)

Guides need to go through Review before being put in to the guides namespace.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:05, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Which you've done already. I'll get on it.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:06, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Done.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:12, 24 August 2010 (BST)

Rogues Gallery (Brainstock)

No longer at Brainstock; name inaccurate. (New site at http://rg.urbandead.net.) ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 15:40, 24 August 2010 (BST)

And, uh, yeah, the Red Rum RG is the same site has been down for years now. >_> ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 16:09, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Kept as redirect, added notice to RG page.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:04, 24 August 2010 (BST)

James otero‎

...to User:Glop28/James otero

Character page without the "User:", or which user. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:04, 24 August 2010 (BST)

Yar done -- 02:15, 24 August 2010 (BST)

EVIL to EVIL (disambiguation)

I already spoke to DDR about this a while ago, but never got a definite answer. I think it would only be fair for us to have usage of the EVIL page, as a proper redirect, because we do go by EVIL. I'm actually all for having the content that's included on that page. It's just that I think it would be more appropriate this way. - Poodle of Doom 00:36, 14 August 2010 (BST)

This would pretty much invalidate the use of the disambiguation page entirely. Disambigs are meant to be what you go to right away when you search for a multi-use term, not something you have to go looking for after you've been directed to one over the others. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 00:38, 14 August 2010 (BST)
I understand where your coming from, but to be honest,... this isn't really necessary. The truth of the matter is, DDR's new group doesn't even go by EVIL in game, two of the groups are listed for using EVIL in their name of all things (show me another disambiguation page that lists that), and something that doesn't even relate to any of the other pages listed. Yet we go by EVIL, and are listed on the stats page as EVIL, and when you click on the group for its wiki page,... you get that? Where should one be going from there? To us? To DDR? Is it an advertisement for a wiki thing? If I were new, I wouldn't be able to tell you. Not to mention all the incoming links for my group that now are contextually defunct. - Poodle of Doom 00:51, 14 August 2010 (BST)
Cf/ Umbrella for answers to all of these questions. As for the incoming links, I believe DDR stated he'd fix them. And your stats page link? Just use your group's actual name, I guess. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 00:59, 14 August 2010 (BST)
You know, on the other wiki, when you have a word with multiple meanings but one central one (like US and US (disambiguation)) it's relatively common to see the main entry have the redirect and a message at the top linking to the disambiguation. Given that Poodle's group is listed on the stats page as "EVIL," and that there are 250-300 links to his group via the page, I really don't see a strong argument against leaving Poodle the redirect and slapping a big italicized disambiguation notice on top of his group page. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:36, 14 August 2010 (BST)
I'd understand that if the group was actually called EVIL, but I see no reason to give them a redirect from what's used as a disambig page. If they used the EVIL page as their group page I'd have no problem with them having it to themselves, but this is pretty much the same situation as the pages Umbrella and DEM have. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 01:43, 14 August 2010 (BST)
In my opinion, we should do just that: move Extremely Vengeful and Irksome Laymen to EVIL (and leave an appropriate redirect) since that's the group's actual name in-game, meaning that they have first rights to the page. Following that, we could set up E.V.I.L. as a redirect to Every Villain Is Lemons. Aichon 01:51, 14 August 2010 (BST)
I can'tuse that, it isn't a search term, people will only use EVIL. We use EVIL in game for propaganda which is why we need that disambig. I don't want people seeing our work and searching EVIL and finding Poodle's group. And before today, EVIL wasn't even on the stats page, they barely have any more members than us, and the disambig currently clearly states which one of us has EVIL as their group tags as to avoid confusion if they go there to find Poodle's group from in-game confrontation. -- 02:32, 14 August 2010 (BST)
That's onlyin response to the E.V.I.L thing, Poodle's group should be at EVIL and not where it is now, but if that doesnt happen I think the disambiguation page is the most fitting second step. -- 02:42, 14 August 2010 (BST)
I mean no offense when I say this DDR, but you do realize that the only difference between what exists right now, and what I propose should exist is essentially an additional link at the top of both of our pages? And be honest,... wouldn't doing what I suggested above be much easier than changing all the incoming links? Not to mention that the only two things that should be in the disambiguation page would be your group and mine... half these other groups use the term EVIL, and only loosely at that. Overall, it seems like such a petty matter. - Poodle of Doom 03:10, 14 August 2010 (BST)
I take no offence. To me it isn't about what's easiest or what takes up the less work or what can substitute what, it's about what is the right decision, what should be done. Workload isn't a concern because I'll do internal links if the disambiguation page stays and the sysops will do the 500+ moves required if you should move to EVIL groupspace (which imo is what should be happening). They are two examples of, imo, what is a better decision that shitting up both our pages with a gay disambig link at the top. And regarding the extraneous groups I added onto the EVIL disambiguation page, I sort of agree, but that's POV, and my work on EVIL was my attempt at being as NPOV and informative as possible. They existed, they had some impact, hell, Evil Avatar has more (or similar, can't remember) page views than your EVIL group does. -- 03:31, 14 August 2010 (BST)
Well,... Again, don't take offense to me shitting out what you say,... but you take the EVIL namespace... There's less work involved there,... and you'd be known as EVIL no less to right? Regardless... I have an idea I'm working on that could solve the problem... let me fool around with some coding here.... and I'll let you know. Still, I wouldn't mind a link at the top of my groups page.... I made that clear prior to this. - Poodle of Doom 03:38, 14 August 2010 (BST)
I know you don't mind, but I sort of do, I don't want it there, and again it only subverts the path to what should happen in order to negate the workload needed to achieve it. Allowing me to take the EVIL namespace is interesting but it makes no sense because you use EVIL in game, it's actually going more backward from what we have now. ATM the only thing that's giving your wishes grounds is the fact you use EVIL in-game, otherwise this whole request would most likely be thrown out on the spot. Giving the group space that you have right to via in-game representation away to another group is even worse than we have now, and if that happened my page would be the one that ended up on EVIL anyway, not a disambig, so it'd probably be worse than what we have now for both of us. BTW the redirect stuff isn't going to work, it has something to do with the amount of content on page I believe. -- 03:48, 14 August 2010 (BST)
So basically, my only response should be "Neener Neener! I was here first!",.... ahh,... I'm more diplomatic than that. Anyway,... I just don't care what you want anymore. I'm tired of trying to work with you... and I will make the code work!!! - Poodle of Doom 03:59, 14 August 2010 (BST)
BLAST!! The code doesn't work,... you've bested me this time,... but I still won't negotiate!!! Grr! Argh! *shaking fist* - Poodle of Doom 04:19, 14 August 2010 (BST)
In reference to what Red Hawk said above, there's an easier way than slapping on the code,... This Template would make it easier. I'm sure you're well aware of it's existance,... just thought I'd point it out. - Poodle of Doom 03:23, 14 August 2010 (BST)


OK, conversation got way too long there, but it's sounding like moving Poodle's group to the EVIL namespace is the most logical solution, since that's technically where they should be anyway (oh, how I wish there was a mass move tool!). Really, that should've been done long ago. Once that's sorted out, we can go from there with handling DDR's group. Aichon 05:06, 14 August 2010 (BST)

Yeah. That's not really my favoured outcome obviously but it's technically what should be done unfortunately. If that's the case I guess we'll have to go the group disambig notice route :( -- 07:23, 14 August 2010 (BST)
If you agree to moving Poodle's group to EVIL, can I suggest putting the diambig at Evil. This discussion should have been done on arbies, rather than here -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:32 14 August 2010 (BST)
Like it matters where the discussion was :/ Honestly, I guess it's up to Poodle. -- 10:29, 14 August 2010 (BST)
So my choices are either take the EVIL page,... or settle for things the way they are now? If that's the case, couldn't I just take the page, and turn it back into a redirect? It would be owned by us, and we could make it whatever we wanted right? Seriously, I'd prefer a seperate disambiguation page, like I suggested above. - Poodle of Doom 13:39, 14 August 2010 (BST)
They, IMO are the two most fitting options, the "taking EVIL" option being the best. -- 02:05, 15 August 2010 (BST)

What I really want to know is why I'm being told to either stake my claim, or hush up, when only months ago, I was told I wouldn't be able to use EVIL... anyone have a valid answer to that? I mean seriously, you want the pages moved under EVIL mainspace,.... you should of let me do that then. - Poodle of Doom 01:35, 15 August 2010 (BST)

You were told then to remain consistent - your group page was the full name, and you were asked to use that name when making subpages. Now you have a choice between retaining the namespace you have, or moving the entire thing to EVIL - which is the same case now, as once again either choice will simply be based around remaining consistent with the same naming convention. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 01:44, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah, it was because you had 50% in EVIL and 50% in extremely laymen. And we didn't know you had EVIL as an actual group tag in-game because typically, when a group does that, they make their group page there. -- 02:05, 15 August 2010 (BST)
You can't say you didn't know that we went by EVIL then, because I actually told you then:
Poodle of doom said:
We are known in game as EVIL, and abreviated as such. I'm just seeking clarification at this point. -Poodle of doom 03:01, 8 September 2009 (BST)
And what I was specifically told was:
Haliman111 said:
What they mean is, your main pages should be "Extremely..." etc. EVIL is a redirect, and is there purely for everyone's convenience so they don't have to type out that long ass name every time they look for your group. Any new pages should be the full name. --Haliman - Talk 04:00, 8 September 2009 (BST)
It would sound to me like people shouldn't have to be typing in the really long name, and that a diambiguation page would be the way to go... Arbies!!! - Poodle of Doom 03:50, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Ahh, fair enough. I didn't read the whole request and assumed that we had thought that at the time. Arbies will be bad for you, just a protip. -- 04:05, 15 August 2010 (BST)

I'm going to consider this one resolved by Poodle's self-ban and mass deletion request.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 12:05, 15 August 2010 (BST)

The Day Monroeville Fell

I have work, someone plz confirm: jorunal namespace. -- 23:03, 12 August 2010 (BST)
I dunno, man. I'd consider this to fall in line with pages like Malton Incident. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 02:43, 13 August 2010 (BST)
Except this one exhibits personal accounts from the group and half of it is written in first person -- 07:31, 13 August 2010 (BST)
Moved to Journal:The Day Monroeville Fell.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 00:31, 14 August 2010 (BST)

User:Naozi

To User:Fawkes/Naozi. Standard newbie mistake. Standard procedure. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 00:06, 13 August 2010 (BST)

Nvrmind. Still a newb mistake, but one of different nature. Tricked me. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 00:21, 13 August 2010 (BST)
No action taken. Aichon 02:34, 13 August 2010 (BST)

LOO Rangers

Done. Aichon 02:31, 13 August 2010 (BST)

The Umbrella Conspiracy

disfagbiguation page is stupid, possibly untrue, unlinked and POV up the arse. request move into group space at Umbrella, Inc./The Umbrella Conspiracy. -- 03:18, 12 August 2010 (BST)
cause sysops are awesome and would rather delete stuff than fix issue than this is considered completed i guess. -- 14:34, 12 August 2010 (BST)
Sometimes deleting stuff is a valid fix. Umbrella serves the purpose quite well enough -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:45 12 August 2010 (BST)
While I disagree I don't really care, at least that shit is off our mainspace one way or another. -- 14:55, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Guides: Short simple guide to staying alive

To Guides:Short simple guide to staying alive From memory, having a space after the namespace prefix is bad for the wiki software, and since there is a good chance they'll be a guides namespace in the next few days, it's probably a good idea to move this so it doesn't vanish from memory ;) Linkthewindow  Talk  01:16, 7 August 2010 (BST)

Done. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 01:19, 7 August 2010 (BST)
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