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Northwest Borehamwood Map 1

Blank, Im the only person to have ever used it, information was combined into page for Northwest Borehamwood. Crits 1 and 7. thanks. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Done -- boxy talkteh rulz 23:13 31 October 2008 (BST)

Tulul‎

Crit 9. Duplicate of the appropriate user page.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 04:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Blarg. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Borehamwood Suburb Template

Crit 1, duplicated at Template:Borehamwood Suburb -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:13 29 October 2008 (BST)

Unduplicated. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Crit 8

Please remove following pages, I was fooling with templates without realizing that they have to be in the Template namespace. Sorry about that. (criterium 8)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tybalt Peroni (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

Deleted --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

another 1

i have repented and im a christain now i want to help new guys to urbandead and hopfully maybe someday redeem my self by helping new guys i would thank you so much if you delete this page http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Malton_Juvenile_Hall_Detention_center ill give ya a cookie also--Tomer 17:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleted --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Category:And The Dead Shall Walk The Earth

Crit 4 -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 11:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks like a group page to me.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Very good! It does look like a group page doesn't it? Unfortunately Crit 4 has fuck all to do with groups, it has to do with categories. There are no entries in that category, it is text book Crit 4. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:13, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I've put it under move requests as it should be for ..And The Dead Shall Walk The Earth!!!. Someone needs to talk to this guy, as he clearly has no idea what he is doing. Just look at Category:Recruiting The Dead, Category:Recruiting the undead, Category:Categories:And The Dead Shall Walk The Earth, and Category:The Dead Hunters. All four of those new links need to be obliterated. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 00:13, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Heh i was gonna, but i'm not entirely sure where to start... :S --xoxo 00:15, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, the move request takes care of the original category, but the other four categories are unneeded. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 00:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Move request denied, I am moving all contents to ..And The Dead Shall Walk The Earth!!! as suggested by Gnome. So keep it up for SD. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Now it's good to delete. I'll fix up the rest of those later. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Crit 1's

All empty, all cleared by the guy who made all/almost all previous edits. --xoxo 11:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

  1. Speedy - Crit 1 -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Bableeted. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Doctor Lady

A lady doctor? What's the world coming to? --xoxo 10:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

  1. Speedy - Crit 9 -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleted - but it's been a long day. Get to the list tomorrow, if no one else does -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:49 27 October 2008 (BST)

Malton survivor force and Beginners malton survivor force

Broken redirects made ages ago.--xoxo 10:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

  1. Speedy - Crit 3 -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleted -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:49 27 October 2008 (BST)

Malton surivors force

Broken redirect and misspell. --xoxo 10:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC) Deleted -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:49 27 October 2008 (BST)

  1. Speedy - Crit 3 -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleted -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:49 27 October 2008 (BST)

My journal

Perhaps this should change to a list of all existing journals?? --xoxo 10:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

  1. Speedy - Crit 9 -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Missed this redirect when I moved the page.--– Nubis NWO 12:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Criterion 9

--HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 01:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Gone, again -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:14 26 October 2008 (BST)

Cleaning up

  1. Talk:Journal: John Hawke - (this guy had almost every version of these combinations as redirects.
  2. Journal: John Hawke
  3. user talk:Hamchoi
  4. JOURNAL: DOCTEUR KLEEN
  5. User:Thresh
  6. User:Michael Morbius
  7. User talk:Sigfrid
  8. User:Sigfrid
  9. User:NipsMcBite
  10. User:Westfall
  11. User:PQN 4
  12. User:PQN 2
  13. User:PQN 9
  14. User:PQN 8
  15. User:PQN 7
  16. User:PQN 14
  17. User:PQN 11
  18. User:PQN 5
  19. User:Amminidab

Unused redirects .--– Nubis NWO 15:20, 25 October 2008 (BST)

All of those PQN ones should have been left, they are redirects to the original vandal page for permabanned sockpuppets. This is the reason that they need to be reviewed by another sysop before deletion -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:13 26 October 2008 (BST)
Please pick a side and stick to it, boxy.
Delete - all redirects for user pages in the main namespace. There is enough competition for acronym redirects from groups, we don't need them for every user who has more than a one word name as well. The main namespace is for game info, not user pages -- boxy talk • teh rulz 02:26 26 October 2008 (BST)
We would all appreciate it. --– Nubis NWO 12:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Is that the royal "weeeee", Nubis? Here's a hint, "all redirects for user pages in the main namespace". Those redirects arn't in the "main namespace", and they had a purpose, linking sock puppet accounts to the main vandal account. All the PQN ones were created by sysops after banning the sock accounts -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:37 27 October 2008 (BST)
Crisis averted. Or perhaps you require something like this:
BAWWWWW!.jpg Wah!
Save me from the important pages that were easily restored.!!!!111one

--– Nubis NWO 23:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Moar

Crit 3/9s.

-- boxy talkteh rulz 02:59 25 October 2008 (BST)

Also Caleb Usher. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:09, 25 October 2008 (BST)


Done.--Karekmaps?! 04:13, 25 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 3 and 9s

-- boxy talkteh rulz 02:04 25 October 2008 (BST)

Done.--Karekmaps?! 02:16, 25 October 2008 (BST)

Criterion 9

--HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 22:02, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Links preserved, page deleted.--Karekmaps?! 22:38, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 9, 3

Has been here for 2 and a half years and has only 2 links to it, compared to mine which was up for 2 hours and had one. Haha, disregard that, I suck cocks. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:05, 24 October 2008 (BST)

The motives behind this are so very petty. Having said that, if I'd remembered I'd made it I would've submitted it myself. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 06:07, 24 October 2008 (BST)
We all believe your righteousness Bob. However, your initial comment becomes worthless due to the above case you just tried to pull. Ha. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:00, 24 October 2008 (BST)
what --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 07:13, 24 October 2008 (BST)
lol.--Nallan (Talk) 07:26, 24 October 2008 (BST)
what is engrish DDR? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:34, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Deleted -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:13 24 October 2008 (BST)

Cyberfaggot

Crit 9, 3. ya? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:15, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 9

--HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 13:43, 23 October 2008 (BST)

Also crit 3. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 13:52, 23 October 2008 (BST)
I never got crit 3. I don't see the point to it. Could someone explain it to me better than the wiki does?--CyberRead240 13:55, 23 October 2008 (BST)
Takes up space that could be easily reused otherwise.--Karekmaps?! 17:00, 23 October 2008 (BST)
Done--Karekmaps?! 17:01, 23 October 2008 (BST)
Don't understand, how come this isn't acceptable, but Ron, AHLG, Nallan, J3D even Cyberbob, who made this report, has his own redirect page. Like, even DDR has been up for over a year by now and no one cared... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:01, 24 October 2008 (BST)
If a page like that goes undeleted it's because nobody has noticed it, not because they're trying to get away with having it. Go ahead and submit for deletion any such page you see. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 06:08, 24 October 2008 (BST)
^This.-Karekmaps?! 12:23, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Unfair

Crit 1. --WanYao 06:42, 23 October 2008 (BST)

No a/vb wan? :D --xoxo 06:47, 23 October 2008 (BST)
Done.--Karekmaps?! 17:01, 23 October 2008 (BST)

a missspell

Malton Juvinile Hall Detension Center the name had misspells so i changed it can it be deleted , thanks

also BEGINNERS MSF FORCE that used to be mine —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tomer (talkcontribs) at a time I'm too lazy to check.

Got 'em. Please learn to sign. And format. -- Cheese 19:48, 20 October 2008 (BST)

Death grip

A page created that says pretty much the same (only a lot less) as what's on the Zombie Skills page -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:25 19 October 2008 (BST)

Get rid of that shiz. So is the rule if you post it on A/SD you can't be the one to delete it, but any sysop can come through once it's posted and delete it regardless of time lapsed provided no one's voted keep?--xoxo 12:34, 19 October 2008 (BST)
Pretty Much. The page is a few hours old, not to mention that the Zombie Skills page is meant to be a portal, not the main source. So Keep for now, maybe someone will be able to come up with some description text for Death Grip beyond the stuff that's there now.--Karekmaps?! 15:36, 19 October 2008 (BST)
I'm still trying to sort out individual pages for all of them in Garish green. Bear with me. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:53, 19 October 2008 (BST)

Kept - but the stuff about not using bite is a bit wrong, I think. Biting as a newbie zombie is higher efficency until you get the claw skillz, I think (ie. buy neck lurch before death grip or rend flesh) -- boxy talkteh rulz 08:31 22 October 2008 (BST)

Tons of Crit 1s


There will probably be some more to come, there's also this but it's not quite crit 1 yet, I don't think the content has been moved to the right place.--Karekmaps?! 19:39, 18 October 2008 (BST)

Whiped the last one, it was crit 1'd cause of vandalism and therefore should be revised... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:14, 19 October 2008 (BST)
What are you talking about? -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:30 19 October 2008 (BST)
Check revisions to see, he removed it from the list already.--Karekmaps?! 15:37, 19 October 2008 (BST)
Oh, OK. Please don't do that DDR, if you think one needs keeping, use strikethrough -- boxy talkteh rulz 02:54 21 October 2008 (BST)

Deleted -- boxy talkteh rulz 08:31 22 October 2008 (BST)

3 Crit 4s

Aren't being used and have no reason to exist.--Karekmaps?! 19:02, 18 October 2008 (BST)

Gone -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:30 19 October 2008 (BST)

Earleton - Malton Safety Map

Made by mistake, crit. 1, crit. 7,--G-Man 06:33, 19 October 2008 (BST)

Done.--Karekmaps?! 07:29, 19 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 1, 3 broken redirects

No pages link to them. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 17:51, 16 October 2008 (BST)

Done,.they seem to have been missed when the actual content pages met deletion/speedy deletion requests.--Karekmaps?! 18:32, 18 October 2008 (BST)


Category

Category:Wiki Resources

Crit 4. It had one item inside it, but that turned out to be an uncreated page. Thanks. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:50, 12 October 2008 (BST)

Ummm, Category:Wiki Resources has a number of pages and one sub category in it. Looks useful -- boxy talki 08:41 13 October 2008 (BST)

Balls. I cut and pasted the wrong one.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:16, 13 October 2008 (BST)

I meant

Category:Suggestion 10 February 2007

Crit 4.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:16, 13 October 2008 (BST)

That's a strange one. I'll leave this to see if any of the other sysops have any luck working out why that non-page is included in the category -- boxy talkteh rulz 17:11 13 October 2008 (BST)
It doesn't like the space between Suggestion: and Make, so the wiki removes it. When I type in: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Suggestion:_make_suggestions_their_own_pages&action=delete I get this error Could not delete the page or file specified. (It may have already been deleted by someone else.). Ask Kevan.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:48, 14 October 2008 (BST)
Oh [[Talk:Suggestion:_make_suggestions_their_own_pages|the page]] does exist. However I'm sure we can delete this considering it's bed buddy got deleted a ways back.--Karekmaps?!
Done, as a Crit 6, the other thing is still an issue though.--Karekmaps?! 18:30, 18 October 2008 (BST)

Suburb_Recruitment

Crit 1 - duplication of Category:Recruitment to circumvent community consensus. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:18, 15 October 2008 (BST)

Kept - have you attempted to contact him about his idea of sorting recruitment adverts by suburbs? It seems like a pretty good idea, although perhaps the work involved isn't worth the benefit. As to the ruling... I'm not going to delete it under Crit 1, because the duplication part of that criterion reads "is duplicated elsewhere to no purpose". There is a purpose to his duplication, a better way of accessing recruitment ads -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:58 15 October 2008 (BST)
It was discussed on the Category:Recruitment page and dismissed as it duplicated the suburbs pages for information and would cause a load of drama as have similar on the suburbs pages. But, you go ahead and keep it.... -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 14:15, 15 October 2008 (BST)

Mall Tour '08

Hasn't Happend yet and seems to be a placeholder, for al we know it won't happen, for all we know they might skip it this year. Crit 1. Should be right.--Jakezing 04:54, 15 October 2008 (BST)

Agreed, Crit 1, 08 isn't going to happen, 09 on the other hand.... -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:18, 15 October 2008 (BST)

Deleted - if anything actually happens, it's fine to recreate the page -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:11 15 October 2008 (BST)


Two never deleted pages

Both Dingus3 and Shades of malton History were marked for speedy deletion, but were never deleted. I don't know if there was a reason for this or what, but I thought I'd bring them back to attention.--SirArgo Talk 23:39, 14 October 2008 (BST)

Was scheduled. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:48, 14 October 2008 (BST)

Casual_Killers

Crit 7 - Nuke it from orbit. --Flipping 18:35, 14 October 2008 (BST)

Crited from orbit. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:48, 14 October 2008 (BST)

Template:ALiM

Crit 10.--Nallan (Talk) 04:46, 14 October 2008 (BST)

See??? 2 Cool and ALiMers can be socially responsible, clearing the wiki from unused junk.--xoxo 04:47, 14 October 2008 (BST)
Totally.--Nallan (Talk) 04:49, 14 October 2008 (BST)
Gone. --ZsL 23:51, 14 October 2008 (BST)

Ye Olde Subpage

EMRPs to PRocess, Unused. Get its talk page too.

And /UT please... And /FB too...

I think..

(Criterion I) 03:57, 11 October 2008 (BST)

I think Karek got them -- boxy talkteh rulz 17:11 13 October 2008 (BST)

User:Revenant/GM/BiggerSpeechBox.user.js

Crit 8. Unusable without Mediawiki RawFile extension. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 08:03, 11 October 2008 (BST)

See below.

Amusing Locations in Malton/Colloquialisms

Unneeded. Crit 7.--Nallan (Talk) 07:12, 11 October 2008 (BST)

Both of these requests seem to have been fulfilled already.--– Nubis NWO 11:30, 12 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 7

NaP I created the page, and as far as I can remember, am the only member of the group who ever edited it. (I think one other person might have corrected a typo, but I'm not sure). The group has been defunct for some time...not to mention it's a Monroeville group. It's not deserving of historic status by any stretch of the imagination (unlike, say, a group like the Monroeville Many)...so...can we reduce wiki clutter, and get rid of it, please? --Jen 04:00, 12 October 2008 (BST)

Moved request from Deletions since it is a crit 7 and done.--– Nubis NWO 11:27, 12 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 1 / 7

Malton Mercenarys New Arkham Fight Club

deleted. --– Nubis NWO 13:16, 11 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 7

Image:Kempsterbank_war_sm.PNG, the former logo of SFHNAS. Nothing uses it, only I've edited it. We've rebranded! Billy Forks 21:00, 8 October 2008 (BST)

Deleted -- boxy talki 10:59 9 October 2008 (BST)

Various DHPD pages

DHPD/Confirmed_Brain_Rot_Roster

DHPD/Gulf_Squad

DHPD/Hotel Squad

DHPD/Indigo Squad

DHPD/Template:Header

I'm posting these here hoping that Conndraka or some other DHPDer will verify that these are indeed unused since the remodel of their page. They were cleared by Marty Banks. I'm not going to rush to delete them. --– Nubis NWO 14:12, 7 October 2008 (BST)

I would assume that they are but don't we normally not delete anything under name spaces unless requested by author if the whole root isn't deleted? Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 05:13, 8 October 2008 (BST)
I'll check in with the rest of the group - we've been reworking the wiki pages recently, and I'm not sure where we're up to. It'd be appreciated if you could hold off until I check back in Sanpedro 06:05, 8 October 2008 (BST)
They were on the uncategorized pages list and had been blanked by Marty. I was thinking he just didn't bother to post them. If they are going to be used again can you just stick a DHPD category on them please? --– Nubis NWO 02:53, 9 October 2008 (BST)

Kept for now, however if these pages don't have content on them within a week or so, and they reappear here, they can indeed be speedydeleted under crit 1 (regardless of being group sub pages). I'm leaving the SD template on them, so they will be found shortly, and they have categories on them. The brain rot roster, at least, has been moved to another location -- boxy talki 10:59 9 October 2008 (BST)

We're still in process of remodeling/archiving... please don't clear anything with content yet; once I'm finished I'll put everything cleaned on the list... I want to make sure we don't miss anything from the old department for our historical archive. Thanks for the quick action though Nubis, I just need more time to get everything set... college and work has taken up my free time.
PS: DHPD/Template:Header, and DHPD/Confirmed_Brain_Rot_Roster have been archived completely and can be removed though... --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 20:08, 11 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 1

Looks like even the almighty Dr.Sinclair's struggling with the credit crunch. :P

Now people will have to buy their drugs on the street or the internet like in real life.--– Nubis NWO 02:55, 9 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 7

Created accidentally during active vandalism. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 23:22, 7 October 2008 (BST)

Already got it. -- Cheese 23:23, 7 October 2008 (BST)

Church of Reathxia/Sandbox

Crits 13 and 7. The original article was deleted due to it being a parody group but this got missed.--SirArgo Talk 04:26, 7 October 2008 (BST)

The page that it is a sub-page of hasn't been deleted, so it's not a crit 13, but as you are the only author, deleted under crit 7 -- boxy talki 10:28 7 October 2008 (BST)

Suggestion:20081007 Suggestion Dupe Change

Crit 2. This is totally worthless and was created just to vandalize. The user who made this page just got banned for vandalism anyway.--SirArgo Talk 04:30, 7 October 2008 (BST)

I spaminated it, rather than deleted -- boxy talki 10:28 7 October 2008 (BST)

Suggestion:20080919 Lighter, the item and him uses

1,7. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:45, 5 October 2008 (BST)

Deleted. --ZsL 06:35, 6 October 2008 (BST)

Template:Lighter,_the_item_and_him_uses

Crit 1 from reading it, crit 2 because it's not a template and therefore off topic and crit 10 because it's in the template namespace and isn't used. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 19:35, 5 October 2008 (BST)

"Gorn." --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:45, 5 October 2008 (BST)

crit 1's

-- boxy talki 14:13 5 October 2008 (BST)

Nobody reverted the MBS page, so I think it is safe to assume it's ok. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:45, 5 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 7, again

Editing Template:ExtremeRepair/Gallery - Blank, and won't be used anyway. --WanYao 13:01, 2 October 2008 (BST)

Ummm, it's a red link, so no page there to delete -- boxy talki 13:12 2 October 2008 (BST)
But it exists, it was created... it's just blank... There, it's no longer blank. :P --WanYao 09:09, 4 October 2008 (BST)
You just created that page, simply to put {{speedydelete}} on it (check the page history) :-/ -- boxy talki 14:51 4 October 2008 (BST)

Deleted Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 17:27, 4 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 7

Ta.--Nallan (Talk) 10:51, 2 October 2008 (BST)

Deleted -- boxy talki 12:25 2 October 2008 (BST)

Crit 7

It's been replaced and is no longer in use. --WanYao 11:49, 2 October 2008 (BST)

Deleted -- boxy talki 12:25 2 October 2008 (BST)