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This page is an archive of Akule's Promotions candidacy, which was unsuccessful. If you wish to speak with this candidate, please use their Talk page.


What is there to say about Akule that people don't already know? Akule cares for the wiki so much that he has tried to aid in shielding Kevan from potential lawsuits over copyrighted images. Kevan understands the possible problem, and despite it not being popular, supports the idea if the community would get together to pass a policy. Understandably, Akule is ridiculed and threatened over this, but he persisted in trying to inform people of the difference between US copyrights and international copyrights. After an artist requested his images be pulled from the wiki, and the drama that occurs from trying to get people to follow the copyright policy, he struck up a compromise with Hagnat. Remembering that the images for the battle of the bear pit could have been saved if the author had been properly cited, it was decided that copyrighted images would be categorized in order to cite the author of the images, followed by the eventual contact of the author after the community got together to compose the proper letter to send. You'll note that since this accord was made, Akule has not put any copyrighted images up for deletion. In fact, the categorization of copyrighted images spawned the idea of categorizing all of the images on the wiki. Without Akule, the images would still be an uncategorized mess.

Next, Akule saw that another issue was starting to brew on the wiki. The behavior of certain sysops. He held discussions over the behavior of some sysops and his policy for automatic sysop cycling helped spell out the eventual decline of the "flame first, help second" sysops. So much so that he risked being banned as he fought the two worst offenders of newbie bashing and won. Next, he tackled the problem of inactive sysops to clean house of those individuals who were no longer helping the wiki. While the original policy failed, his policy did spawn the successful truly inactive sysops policy.

His work on rooting out zergers is well documented on Resensitized and Brainstock. Unlike some sysops, he doesn't have a particular bias toward a specific type of player, as he is not only a bounty hunter, but he is a member of a group that has both zombie and survivor members. As for his experience working with the community, you can see here that he was promoted to be a moderator of the rogue's gallery, which is a position of trust. If he couldn't do the job or was simply just a troll, why would he be promoted to a position of authority?

As you can see, Akule has not only influenced the wiki for the better, but has fought to make the game better time and time again, despite what many people may believe. After all, without him, we wouldn't have toe tags now would we? --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 03:54, 1 April 2008 (BST)

I Accept - Since so many people have thrown in support behind me, I can't back down, now can I? Regardless if I am promoted or not, I will continue to try and get the role of trusted user redefined to be what Kevan feels it should be. A trusted user. I feel the current system can support people being trustworthy provided that they step up to do so. If this scares certain people, then so be it. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 21:43, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - As the author of this nomination, Akule has my full support. There are times where he may rub people the wrong way, or go against the stream of where the wiki typically flows, but to quote a good friend of mine, Jellofun: I hate that guy, but he's right. And there has been plenty on people on this wiki who have felt dissatisfaction for siding with Akule on various topics because of that simple reason. He has the wiki's and Kevan's best interest at heart to which, at times, a few of the already empowered sysops do not. I am Anime Sucks. And I approve this message.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 03:54, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - I love him.... Nothing but helpful... srsly...--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 03:55, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - An arrogant prick, but it's merited. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 03:56, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - As long as the gold makes it to my offshore account backet. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n 03:57, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - I'd hit that --Suburban Ed 03:58, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - Let's see this happen. --Amanu Jaku 03:58, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - I didn't know he existed. -- Rogue  Sergeant Sarge1.png 03:59, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - 1) Not active enough, 2)You've managed to bring up many cases which show exactly why he shouldn't be a SysOp, he has a history of trying to take a small wording about anything from other users that can be seen as authoritative and manipulating it into an excuse to justify pushing for and taking action in the extreme. This is a great example in my own personal opinion, so is his history with copy rights in which he pretty much only reported images used by people he did not like or get along with. I believe Akule would be a user to take even the littlest comment in a policy and warp it so far beyond the policies intent to get away with ludicrous and absurd behavior that I strongly advise against promoting him. Not to mention that he himself has mentioned multiple times that he does not desire promotion to SysOp.--Karekmaps?! 04:06, 1 April 2008 (BST)
    Not active enough? I seem to recall that I put forth a policy concerning sysop activity that required sysops do at least one sysop edit every three months, but it got horribly shot down. The policy we ended up with was one edit, any edit, every four months, which I do 500 times over. As for your second point, if wanting sysops to be forced to be more trusted than general users, so to actually deserve the position of authority, then I am guilty as charged. One would think that you would support that sort of idea based upon this post, but are too disillusioned and bitter to try. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 21:52, 1 April 2008 (BST)
    I'll clarify, my problem is you twist the spirit to interpert by the letter and ignore the purpose of why certain rules exist. And you know perfectly well that I supported the inactive Sysops policies, I've had to deal with considerable shit on this wiki because of that, hell that's where my "feud" with Funt started. I'll clarify more laterish, I'm exceptionally busy right now.--Karekmaps?! 21:59, 1 April 2008 (BST)
    Do we really want to get into how people twist certain rules? :D Oh, I know you supported the inactive sysop policy. I'm glad you did, because it showed me that you too want some sort of sysop reform and perhaps to move toward the idea of having helpful sysops that nurture the community. I'm just saying that I am active enough to do the job, and I am very willing to help people out. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 22:08, 1 April 2008 (BST)
    You're full of it, Akule. Don't think for one second that anybody with half a brain is taken in by this sudden change of attitude. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 00:45, 2 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - I like the guy.--'BPTmz 04:08, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Weak Against I am sorry, I have been all over Wiki (mostly posting stupid cr@p) and never seen you one time... I am going to specifically look out for you and if I find out more about you I will strike and reverse my vote. Good luck to you --Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 04:13, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • AbstainUntil I see some form of statement from Akule. Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 04:27, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - akule and i never understand eachother... i used to hate this little prick. But ever since we reached an understanding on how things could work without the hassle of asking permission to use copyrighted material, the thing i hated him most vanished, and akule presented to be a really helpful and caring contributor for this community. A dozen dozens vouches! And may cookis and mukzips and gold shine upon my basket! --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 05:06, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 06:41, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against No thanks. The drama he was involved in may have died dowm/gone away but I wouldn't trust our wiki lawyering friend as far as I could spit!--Honestmistake 09:29, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch seems to be a good guy--CorndogheroT-S-Z 13:40, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch I think he can make valuable contributions.--CyberRead240 13:42, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against Not active enough, and when he is it's often to poke people -- boxy talki 13:58 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - this guy is not active enough and he still hasn't said he actually wants the job and i want more angry grim-esque sysops and he doesn't vote on ALiM and yeah thats it.--xoxo 14:05, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Abstain - Hasn't accepted yet, to my knowledge. I'm still going to abstain, he's not really all that active.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:09, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - I asked him a question, and he gave me an informative and enthusiastic answer. A small thing, but nice. And it's to his credit that he can compromise. --Toejam 16:31, 1 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - prig: noun, one who offends or irritates by observance of proprieties (as of speech or manners) in a pointed manner or to an obnoxious degree. pedantic: adjective, narrowly, stodgily, and often ostentatiously learned... Akule is a drama-hound whose petty grudge-whoring and attempts to lawyer-bully people make him a VERY unsuitable candidate for sysop. Even when he is right, he makes himself wrong by the priggish and pedantic way he goes about making his case. And this is about far, far more than the copyright issue... Akule should not be a sysop. Period. --WanYao 00:42, 2 April 2008 (BST)
A part of me feels bad about the harshness of my comments above... However... I have to stand by them... Even if I am wrong... that is nonetheless the kind of reaction that Akule inspires. Consistently. Which bodes not well... 'Nuff said. --WanYao 23:33, 5 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - You do make some great contributions, but I do not think that you are consistently active enough to be a sysop, and your history of drama also troubles me. --ZsL 01:01, 2 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - -- BKM 05:42, 2 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - The writing of this nomination certainly sounds convincing, but I just havent seen you around very much.--Dr Doom86Phoenix2.gif T PSS 06:18, 2 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - Who? --LH779 12:32, 2 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - Sorry, I haven't seen you either. I appreciate toe tags, though. --Vandurn 13:59, 2 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - I know you've been here for quite some time, actually, but I've really haven't seen you do anything much over the past few months. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:40, 2 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - yay akule! you're scary in a good way! the wiki needs someone like you before it explodes from all the drama. --Ropponmatsu 03:03, 3 April 2008 (BST)
  • Weak Vouch - I've barely seen him, but the author makes a good point, and he seems quite trustworthy and responsible. -UCFSD 13:07, 3 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - Too inactive and too opinionated. I can't see anything other than a metric shitload of misconduct cases and drama if he's to be promoted. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 16:59, 3 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against-WanYao is right.--ShadowScope 18:42, 3 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - Mature, generally friendly, was well as a good grasp on the wiki --Kristi of the Dead 19:03, 3 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against --Bullgod 20:25, 3 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - Whilst I don't really have a problem with you having the tools, I don't think we should have someone in power who attracts so much drama. And seeing as that's the system we have (with moderators being "in power") then that seals my vote. Jonny12 talk 20:58, 3 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - The rules argument with Karek on this page alone cements it for me. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:00, 3 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch -- Finally, a candidate I can support. Asheets 23:15, 3 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch -- Probably the best one nominated in quite some time, and his promotion would irk Karek to boot.--The Envoy 01:11, 4 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch -- Akule is a good guy. Has done many good things for the wiki -- Cisisero 03:33, 4 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against -- April Foolz? Har. :D --Karloth Vois RR 09:33, 4 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - I've disagreed with Akule before, but he has shown himself capable of rational thought and also, as hagnat outlined proven himself capable of negotiation and compramise over the copyright thing. Also, while I have disagreed with Akule, and thought him wrong on many counts, he has usualy always 1) outlined his arguments carefully and thought them through and 2) shown himself capable of at least entertaining the notion that someone else may be right. In conclusion, while i'm sure I will go on disagreeing with him on various wide ranging issues, I can at least me sure that he will have the best interests of the wiki at heart and also that I will be disagreeing with someone competant enougth to put forward his point of veiw coherantly and in a well - planned thought out manner.--SeventythreeTalk 16:09, 4 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - God no.--Jorm 18:26, 4 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against -- Rutherford 18:30, 4 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - I do not feel Akule embodies the spirit of the Wiki that should be promoted. --Liche 18:39, 4 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - I think more time is needed between the conclusion of previous drama involving him and his promotion. See: Wanyao's opinion above. See: argument with Karek above, especially the first sentence of this edit. I also second the "inactive" opinion that recurs throughout this page. -Ornithopter 19:35, 4 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - I'm sure that Akule's done some good stuff around the wiki, but it's been lost in all the noise generated by the drama he's caused. - Bisfan 22:55, 4 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - People that want authority should not be given it. --DCC 00:17, 5 April 2008 (BST)
  • Abstain - I just haven't really seen you around doing anything. --Hhal 19:38, 5 April 2008 (BST)
  • Abstain - With so many opinions on either side of the line, I can't make a solid decision. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 23:41, 5 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch He is someone I would support. --Asdfgjkl 03:21, 6 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - you are all a bunch of hypocrites when you say he brings too much drama, and would vouch for grim jr, especially cyclops boy who chose akule to be his arbitrator. grow a pair--Atahalne 06:05, 6 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - While I do believe that he is pretty capable of making a good role as a Sysop, his late innactivity do little to confirm if his intentions are those and not another ones. We have to be able to judge your character before vouching for you, even more your recent character developments, and this nomination doesn't give us that option. Altough I have to admit it's quite true that some of the arguments the guys above make about him are plain and utter crap. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:37, 6 April 2008 (BST)
    Holy Shit, its Matt...-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 15:48, 6 April 2008 (BST)
  • Abstain - I just don't know whether you're ready or not. Sure, you've had some problems in the past, but who hasn't? Sure you've done some good things for the community, but, then again, so have many others. I'll try and decide some time before this bid is over, but as it stands, I'm still on the fence.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 15:48, 6 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against -Akule has had a long history here with devided succes. I think that if a bid recieves as much divided support as this bid that a promotion now would be counterproductive. It is not uncommon that users try again at a later date when the more doubtfull action are more overshadowed by the more recent productive acts. I might support it then, but I'm not in favor for a promotion now.-- Vista  +1  18:26, 8 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - Who let the dogs out? Who? Who! Who! Who! Who let the dogs out? Who? Who! Who! Who! Who the hell are YOU? Who! Who! Who!--MisterGame 18:41, 8 April 2008 (BST)
    The irony is killing... --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 19:34, 8 April 2008 (BST)
    Indeed it is. :P Newbs eh? -- Cheese 22:17, 8 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - He does a fair bit around here and is an alright guy in my opinion. Gets my vote. -- Cheese 22:17, 8 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against --Riseabove 04:30, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - you seem far too inactive. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 23:24, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  • Vouch - Because I can.H4ppy 24 7 06:42, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against Very fucking no.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 09:08, 15 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - No. --Deadtanian 09:29, 15 April 2008 (BST)

Tally Vouch: 21 Against: 33 Abstain: 5 16:15, 16 April 2008 (BST)

  • Against - Lazy turds don't make good sysops. --Kid sinister 07:57, 17 April 2008 (BST)
Two week commenting period has expired -Ornithopter (Talk | contribs) 22:05, 17 April 2008 (BST)
  • Against - Has repeatedly shown a complete inability to engage in a civil discussion, resorting to rudeness, dismissive attitudes or terse responses with irrelevant links; claims extensive knowledge of subjects that he is actually completely ignorant on (harassment, copyright, etc). The wiki staff needs more people who are willing to engage in reasonable discussions instead of childishness. The Malton Globetrotters#31 - TastyNougat TMG 02:24, 18 April 2008 (BST)
Too late. --Druuuuu OcTRR 04:22, 18 April 2008 (BST)

Promotion unsuccessful -- boxy talki 18:15 19 April 2008 (BST)