UDWiki:Administration/Sysop Archives/Amazing/2006-03-28 Promotion

Administration » Sysop Archives » Amazing » 2006-03-28 Promotion

This page is an archive of Amazing's Promotions candidacy, which was withdrawn. If you wish to speak with this candidate, please use their Talk page.

Amazing

I've been around for about 6 months, and I've made over 2,000 edits to date. As you can see here and here, I've been in the leadership role for a couple Urban Dead groups. I also created the Sacred Ground Policy, which is spreading through Malton, as well as many approved Suggestions for new features and the like. I even created some of the approved changes made to the Suggestion system itself. I'm also an Abritration volunteer, though I've only had the opportunity (due to lack of cases) to solve one case there.

I have also made small contributions to the Caiger Mall Survivors page, and I run an unofficial forum for Urban Dead players. I also co-run a Browser-Based Game which is in development, and began working in online games in the mid 90s - always in a leadership position. I administrated an online game (the original DragonSpires, in Java) for many years.

I would like to be a Moderator because I am unhappy with the current Moderator ranks, and I think someone needs to step up and make tough decisions and answer cries for help in a speedier manner.

I'll be closely watched (very closely) by many members of the Wiki community, as you know, so if I ever "slipped up" or did anything questionable, I could be put out on my ass immediately.

I do not wish to abuse the position - I never abused the high positions I held in other areas - I merely wish to speed things up a bit and help the Mod team actually solve some problems.

If necissary, I will abstain from dealing with any Wiki member I have argued with in the past - and will pass the case on to another.

The Mod team needs someone to actually take care of some things that have been unnecissarily left unchecked. No, I'm not dilluded enough to think I'll get to be a Moderator straight off - but here is my official notice of interest.

Let's see if the record of contribution and history of Administration will stand or fall in the face of personal disdain due to my positions. -- Amazing 02:26, 28 March 2006 (BST)

Edit: Forgot to mention I also created and run the UD Profile Database, and am soon opening a site of Urban Dead pixel avatars for players to use on the wiki, their sites, forums, etc. I've made so many contributions to the community that I forgot about some. Ha ha.

• Against - Amazing is clearly not responsible enough to be involved as a moderator and would most likely use the position to further his group rather than promote a peaceful and legitimately open wiki. Rasher

• No. You get moderation, i quit this wiki AND this game in the same day. You have to grow up... A LOT... before being able to moderate anything. --hagnat ^talk 02:36, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: Please keep a civil tone. I've actually Moderated a lot in my time, and Administrated more. Thanks for supporting the SGP, it's much appreciated. -- Amazing 02:42, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - Amazing has consistently displayed he lacks the maturity or self control required for moderator powers. It is almost certain he would abuse it right away to carry on his fued with Maul Machine anyway. --Grim s 03:48, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - What Grim said. -Nubis 03:53, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: - Both wholly incorrect, but thanks for your input! You don't get over 10,000 players (java game) or 300 and growing (new game) by abusing your powers. Besides which I said I'd abstain from dealing with anyone I have argued with in the past - And I've not gone against my word yet. In fact I'm abiding by a weird Arbitration decision right now. -- Amazing 04:31, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Wrong? We can only judge you by your behaviour on this wiki, and your behaviour here has been nothing short of atrocious, to say the least. You whinge and whine, and you call anyone who disagrees with you a troll. This is not the behaviour of a Moderator. It is the behaviour of a petulant child. --Grim s 04:59, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Please keep a civil tone. I call a troll a troll, yes. -- Amazing 05:02, 28 March 2006 (BST)
        • What proof have you that i am a troll, or better yet, what proof have you indicating ive been trolling? Or is it that if someone disagrees with you and turns your crap back around at you, they magically become a troll, because that is certainly what it looks like. --Grim s 05:45, 28 March 2006 (BST)
          • If you insist - I haven't said a cross word to you here, there's nothing to 'turn around' on me - yet you've crossed the line into personal insult and trollish flaming a few times now. There's all the proof that is needed. It's interesting to see who watches closely for my wiki contributions, at least. -- Amazing 05:50, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - Absolutely fucking not. Amazing has proven himself time and time again to be effectively a whining child with no sense of proportion. I do not believe that he/she/it is capable of approaching impartiality in any matter. And yeah - what hagnat said - this move would effectively signal the end of the UD wiki. I'm surprised he was stupid enough to apply. --Jorm 04:49, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: - Please keep a civil tone. I invite you to join my game or my forums so you can actually speak with knowledge about how I handle authority. For example, I do not ruin the game for people by killing noobs. This is a policy you may wish to adopt. -- Amazing 04:58, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Keep it civil? You're one to talk! (Especially since your edit to your last comment makes your opening reek of hypocricy). Anyhow: Here, and Here are examples of you completely failing to keep things civil on your end. You can drop the (flawed) charade. --Grim s 05:08, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • I already mentioned in my original post that I had disagreements with Wiki members. Thanks for participating, though. Keep in mind that those are my actions as a user of the Wiki who was and is actively harassed in and out of the the game (and on my forums) by MaulMachine. As a Moderator, one is no longer a regular Wiki user. Besides, you can find some current Mods failing to keep things civil, I'm sure. What I'm not sure about is what your point is. There's nothing uncivle about my last post in the least. *shrug* -- Amazing 05:14, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • I shouldn't have to leave the confines of this wiki to have developed a positive impression of you. Sorry; I'm not going to do any extra work to go and make sure that you're a "nice guy." --Jorm 05:40, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Perhaps travel within the Wiki to a place where MaulMachine isn't? -- Amazing 05:45, 28 March 2006 (BST)
        • No need. You have consistently shit up every page that I've seen you comment on; I don't feel like I need to go looking for more shit. You won't convince me to change my vote so stop wasting your breath. You are in no way, shape, or form qualified for this. Further, you have the *contempt* rather than the *respect* of your wiki peers. That should tell you something. --Jorm 05:50, 28 March 2006 (BST)
          • I'm sorry you do not feel the need to make an informed vote. Also, I again ask you to please keep a relatively civil tone as I continue to do. If you can't be bothered to click the links I provided in my original post, then you simply wish to remain in the dark as to my wiki contributions aside from MaulMachine arguments. Thanks for your participation. I wish it could have been informed participation. :( -- Amazing 05:56, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - You could never be unbiased because of your numerous unending feuds and grudges with numerous members of this wiki. --Bermudez 05:06, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: - I have offered to pass disagreements with those members on to other Moderators. Current Mods are not unbiased, so I don't think that's a requirement.. That said I still plan to be unbiased. -- Amazing 05:08, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • That I just can't believe--Bermudez 05:19, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • I understand that. It's why I linked to other areas I run or administrate and gave backstory. -- Amazing 05:22, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• No. Do I even have to say it? Petulant, abrasive, incompetant, juvenile, and completely incapable of forming an unbiased decision. He'd only use it to harass me, anyway. MaulMachine 05:16, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: Please take a moment to read the application. Much appreciated, thanks. -- Amazing 05:18, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Re_more: I did. You still suck. MaulMachine 05:21, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Re: Thank you for showing me to be the one of us who is capable of self control and moderate behavior. Honestly, this is not about you. This is about the fact that I think more Moderator action is needed to preserve the unhindered usage of this wiki by those who are using it in good faith. Also, some big decisions need to be made, yet discussion seems to have trailed off into silence multiple times. -- Amazing 05:27, 28 March 2006 (BST)
        • Haha dolt: The mere fact that you feel the need to exclude three groups from voting here shows that even you understand you have no chance. You only want people yo haven't pissed off yet to have a voice. Fucking hilarious. How are you not banned? MaulMachine 17:58, 28 March 2006 (BST)
          • Re: Please keep a civil tone, you're only proving me correct. Anyway, I did not exclude anyone from voting, I simply asked anyone who may be viewing but not voting to weigh in if they so chose. Please keep within the constraints of honesty. And a banishment comment from someone banned twice for vandalism? I don't know how effective that is. -- Amazing 19:32, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - Having watched your actions over several months on this wiki all I have seen is that you need alot more maturity to even think about being a moderator. --Technerd 05:23, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: - 'Tis a shame you have only focused on my flame wars with instigators. Have you followed the links to my contributions as well? BTW, thanks for supporting the SGP. -- Amazing 05:27, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - Yeah, no surprise there, eh? Might as well list my grievances. Amazing has shown the annoying quality to believe that it is impossible that he could be incorrect at any point in time. He has tried to pass off flimsy opinion as precedent, especially in cases of talk pages. He has said that clearing of user talk pages is vandalism (and cleared his page when he was proven wrong). He has said that clearing of group talk pages is vandalism (and yet still clears the group page when he was proven wrong in at least one instance). He has deleted NPOV sections, denying wiki precedent. He has deleted NPOV sections, saying that they must be signed. He has tried to hide NPOV sections on the bottom of the page. He has tried to hide NPOV sections by deleting them and shoving them in "archives". He has tried to add an "NPOV" section to Zaruthustra's user page. He has recently been warned by a current moderator. He has been banned in the past, and attempted to evade the ban by creating two more additional accounts.
  
  I could go on and on and on about Amazing (and I think I already have). I haven't even delved into his not-so-civil behavior elsewhere. Well, it's been fun, Amazing, but I think the conclusion of this vote is already pretty much forgone. --Lucero Capell 06:13, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: Yes, Lucero. When I found out Talk pages were the domain of the group leaders, I realized I had the wrong notion and conducted myself differently because of this fact. There's actually no point to what you've stated. As for hiding/deleting the NPOV section - you actually added POV material under the guise of NPOV, and this very topic has been discussed in the Policy area. Pretty much everyone agrees that "OMG U ZERG" claims don't belong in an NPOV area. I was recently warned for reporting a vandal too often for all the vandalism he committed, yes. I was also banned by LibrarianBrent over a misunderstanding months upon months ago. I created alts in a desperate newbie (Was still very new to the Wiki) attempt to clear up what was misunderstood as ill intent, but gave up VERY soon when it was clear that, at the time, I would not be heard. We have since discussed it and neither of us have an ill will over it. As you can see, Lucero simply wishes to flame and bait arguements. You can tell from his pointless commentary (not mentioning the point, but asking veiled questions) as well as his comment of "Gave up so soon??" in my archive, since he was hoping for a flame war.
    
    Furthermore one of those deletions you posted were Archived, not cleared. The other was simply flamebaiting spam. Please do not lie or skew facts. Besides which, if I DID clear warrented material from my group's talk page or my talk page (which did not happen) it's simply poor form and not against any sort of rule here. -- Amazing 06:21, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Re: Yeah, right. I think the evidence speaks for itself, but it seems that users are doing just fine making their own decisions, apart from whatever lies and slander I appear to have been spewing. By the way, your "UD Profile Database" doesn't exist. --Lucero Capell 20:16, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Re: Put the wrong URL. It does exist, actually. Thanks for pointing out the mistype. I don't believe I ever said anyone was influenced by anything you said. -- Amazing 20:21, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against. I would rather not have as a moderator a person who has admited in their application any feuds with members or groups that also attempt to use the wiki. As a point, I do not support the canidacy of any member that would have to pass off work because of personal issues; a moderator has to be able to moderate with all figures in the community, and unless all issues that Amazing has come to conclusion, I shall not support any attempts to become a moderator.--Karlsbad 06:36, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Indeed, I understand what you are saying about passing off work. I still believe that I could fill in the work that's not done now, at least, even without dealing with a handful of specific members. -- Amazing 06:40, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Ah. A "Shining Ones" member. The pattern remains the same, with another zombie group associated with RRF that is actively attacking in the Suburb my group protects. I thought I finally had someone outside the politics here. :( -- Amazing 06:49, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Sometimes, a Cigar is just a Cigar, and a vote just means I don't like the idea of you becoming a Mod. The vote isn't about politics. Seriously. I could care less about the results of any Suvivor-Group pissing contest you get yourself involved with. It simply is about the distain I have for Moderators which cannot effectively moderate between ALL groups. You are not "like Jesus, in a way", stop shouting ZOMG!!OPRESHUN!!, I don't care. Furthermore, I'm not RRF, and even if I was, it doesn't matter. You are still who you are, and you would still be an ineffective Mod.--Karlsbad 09:27, 28 March 2006 (BST)

NOTE: I'd like to hear some commentary from someone not affiliated with RRF or LCD, two groups the CDF opposes. Up until now I believe every comment has been from one of these two groups. Gingerbread Men being associated with LCD as per a past "operation". Relations between players in opposing groups is expected to be frosty at best. Votes from in-game enemies that I have been attacked by/vandalized by/have argued with will always turn up negative. -- Amazing 06:06, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• The RRF has no stance towards your group at this time. We knocked over your PD a couple of months ago, but that means nothing. --Grim s 06:23, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Your stance shows through in the second part of your comment. By the way, CDF members simply moved to another building and came back to shoot the RRFers until they left shortly thereafter. (Goes to user's less than truthful nature.) I said RRF is an enemy group. Repeated attacks on my group by your group supports this as fact. -- Amazing 06:31, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Your PD was a target on Operation Warpath as the waypoint to get out of Darvall Heights. We only attacked once, and moved on. We are zombies. We eat humans. We have no official stance towards your group. If we did, it would probably be "Salty". --Grim s 06:37, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • I'm not familiar with your Operation titles, but there have also been multiple altercations with seperate RRF members on other occasions. Mostly Harmon RRFers on Harmon CDFers PKing. -- Amazing 06:44, 28 March 2006 (BST)
        • This is the first ive heard of it. Perhaps you shouldnt have revived them? Zombies are openly touchy about the subject of combat revives, and if you revive us we have thousands of EXP banked thanks to the headshot change, meaning we can buy a few skills and work you over real nice. What i really think happened was that your group pked a few RRFers who were looking for flak jackets after Warpath (A trail of destruction from Richmond Hills to Gatecombeton) passed by your PD. When we hit it, we killed everyone inside that did not manage to flee, and moved on. In fact, at the end of that attack i identified a zombie zerger, zuzi, who used his accounts zuzi2 and zuzi4 when he came to the groans (And is not affiliated with the RRF). In any case, this is wandering from the point of this whole thing, which is to assess your suitability for Moderator status on the wiki, which everyone thus far agrees you are not. --Grim s 10:58, 28 March 2006 (BST)
          • Well, people standing on revive points get revived. It comes with the tactic of trying to destroy a rev area. No player can be expected to have all RRF members in their contacts to be recognized. That's even assuming it was a case of revivification retribution. I'd like to discuss this more on my talk page, if you could please give me the dates of Warpath so I can match them up with this "Flak jacket searching" you seem to think zombie players have a right to do without being attacked. -- Amazing 19:41, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • We're a group of zombies. All human life is, by definition, our enemy. Dumbass. Also, how about you NOT delete my comments here any more? --Jorm 06:49, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Please keep a civil tone. As for enemies, I doubt the RRF actively attacks every harman in Malton, so I classify you as an actual enemy group. I didn't delete anything of yours. If it wasn't lost in the shuffle, please rememeber to watch for "Edit Conflicts" as there is a lot of editing going on at the moment. -- Amazing 06:52, 28 March 2006 (BST)
        • Actually, you did delete something of his. And something of someone else's too. Watch for those edit conflicts. --Lucero Capell 20:16, 28 March 2006 (BST)
          • "If it wasn't lost in the shuffle." One of the edits you showed was One second after my own last edit. Not enough time to delete a line (one second?) so it's clearly a glitch. The other one is two seconds. Same thing. Sorry, but once again a lot of talk and accusation with no point. -- Amazing 20:21, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - the amount of drama right here is more than reason to vote against. However I do want Amazing to get a underdog victory so that there can be even more entertaining drama when he got fired. That would be quite bilarious. -Banana Bear4 06:53, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: Shame, that. Seems I won't be able to prove that wrong. I'd never abuse the powah. Haven't yet in life. The drama here, as you can see, has been from.. what, 5 or 6 people who have a beef with me from in-game or the Vandalism page. Nice to have someone objective voting, at least. Thanks! -- Amazing 06:56, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Re: Also, your free browser based game looks bad and has broken links on the front page. That did not look good for you either. -Banana Bear4 07:00, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Re: Hmm. Failed attempt at hurt feelings? I suppose "Alpha v0.2" means nothing to you. Also, there are no broken links as far as I can see. Let me know which ones and I'll get on it. (And I was so nice to you, too. Good work.) -- Amazing 07:08, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Re: The FAQ of your game can't be found. Which makes you look sloppy. Also, when I said there was a lot of drama, I meant, you create a lot. -Banana Bear4 07:15, 28 March 2006 (BST)
        • Re: Got it. Yeah, I moved my forums to their own domain name recently. Thanks for helping make DragonSpires the best it can be! (And I guess I create drama by showing my face?) -- Amazing 07:24, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against. For all the reasons stated above. In fact, I think you should be permanently banned from the wiki for being a troll, as well. --Vanankyte 06:56, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: Hmm. An RRFer I've never seen before in my entire Wiki life. Guess you're a lurker. Feel free to link to any page where I initiated a flame war by trolling. I have a feeling you consider responding to insults with insults to be trolling. -- Amazing 06:58, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Never seen before? I once cut into an edit war between you and MaulMachine and told you both to knock it off. I've seen plenty of your crap all over this wiki and I'm really tired of it. Also, this is not the place to advertise your game. --Vanankyte 07:20, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Can't recall every faceless name from 6 months of usage. I honestly do not recall ever seeing your name. "Plenty of this crap" only includes the mod action area, maybe suggestions months ago, and I guess you check the CDF and LCD pages or the talk pages for Maul and I? As for advertising the game - you think I really want my detractors on there that badly? Brr.. my personal message inbox would be filled in a half second. Yeah, it's there to show I'm not bullshizzling when I say I Administrate a game. -- Amazing 07:24, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - I was going to stay out of this nomination dispute, but the above statements by Amazing show beyond a doubt that he does not believe in separating in-character conflicts from out-of-character forums. A moderator who treats members of "enemy groups" differently from other users is not a good moderator, even if he does, as Amazing has claimed he would, pass those cases on to other mods. furtim 06:57, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: Seperate in-game from the wiki? The wiki is an extension of "in-game", so by nature that's flawed logic. I posted my application here, and in-game and wiki-based detractors of mine followed me here and posted inflammatory comments (in some cases) - and I've maintained composure while disagreeing with them and stating my point of view. Also, nowhere have I said I would treat enemy groups differently - I said these people flaming now were from enemy groups. Hope that cleared things up. -- Amazing 07:02, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Re: Well, that shows pretty much exactly what I'm talking about. In-game is not the Wiki, and the Wiki is not in-game. P.s.: I'm in the RRF, and I think my scientist alt in the Malton Science Group healed some Liberation of Crossman guys once. Does that make me an enemy? But my other alt is in the Council of Lovers, and we're not enemies with anybody! Please don't hate me! =( =( =( furtim 07:12, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Re: Heh, no worries. I said the wiki is an extension of the game, not that the wiki is in-game. -- Amazing 07:18, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Spam - Teehee. This is fucking hilarious. Can we make Eddo a mod, too? Petrosjko 07:03, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: The most famous RRFer, who has, until this point, never spoken to me, been seen where I have posted, or crossed my path in any way. I'm honored. :D -- Amazing 07:05, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Re: The conspiracy is never complete without Papa Petro. Just so you know, we -are- all out to get you. In fact, we've got everyone in Malton looking for you right now. We created three sub-hordes just for the purpose of messing with YOU AND YOU ALONE. Petrosjko 07:12, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Re: Is it because I'm black? -- Amazing 07:18, 28 March 2006 (BST)
        • Re: Actually, it's the opposite. See, everyone in the RRF is actually black, and we've condemned you for your lack of solidarity, you sellout. For fuck's sake, you're part of a defense force for a god damned police department. You're a tool of the MAN. Petrosjko 07:26, 28 March 2006 (BST)
          • Re: Well, buns!! As for "conspiracies" (I think of it more as "people who just dislike me"), you'll have to forgive me for having such a vivid imagination. :P -- Amazing 07:34, 28 March 2006 (BST)
            • Re: Heh. You do realize that people do that sort of thing because you're easily wound up on the internets, right? Let me assure you of something- you and your organization at present have been nothing more than a minor blip on the RRF radar (or bug on the windshield of our totally bitchin' '84 Camaro, if you prefer). If we attack your turf, it's because we're smashing the suburb that you and yours happen to occupy, not because we have a hard-on to get you. There is -no- zombie conspiracy to ruin your wiki life. It's just that several of our members happen to think you wouldn't make a very good mod, and from what I've seen, I agree.
              • Re: Thanks for agreeing that people are persistantly trying to wind me up. :) I repect you as a group leader type dude, so I really have no quarrel with you, etc. I'm just trying to point out some things. When I spoke of LCD and RRF being the major contributors to this vote, it was because it was true - weather or not it was purposeful on either account (LCD's or RRF's) was in the ether. -- Amazing 19:41, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• For - I'd like to say Against, but everyone else has, and I'm just totally opposed to following the crowd. I think he'd be a terrible mod for the wiki, but I can't say he'd be the first. --Beauxdeigh 07:09, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: - Now you listen here, you s-- Wait, what? -- Amazing 07:18, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Re: - See, I did it. Now where's my $5.00? --Beauxdeigh 07:28, 28 March 2006 (BST)
      • Re: - I'll make it ten if you call me level-headed. -- Amazing 07:34, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - Wow, too much drama for me. I don't think a mod should be surrounded with such drama. I don't feel Amazing is ready for that kind of responsibility. It isn't personal, I just think no. You have done some things that are good, but that doesn't equal being a mod in my book. --Jacquie 07:35, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: - Thanks for weighing the facts. (Seriously.) -- Amazing 07:39, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - No Way! Pretty much every contact I've had with Amazing on this wiki has degenerated swiftly into abuse, mostly instigated by Amazing. He is incapable of listening to reason, preferring to resort to flaming and trolling to support his argument. Basically, he's an immature, spiteful megalomaniac. Definitely not moderator material.--Arthur Silly 09:48, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: I have never instigated abuse toward you. In fact, it's the opposite with you chiming in with insults during my discussions with MaulMachine or even on other unrelated pages. -- Amazing 19:41, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - I simply don't think that he's moderator material, but I also think that most of trouble on this page has been caused by people flaming him. Why can't people state their oppinions without it degenerating into petty insults? --The General 10:10, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: - Thank you very much. I do appreciate it. (as I said I didn't expect to be approved straight off, I'm glad to see someone else recognizing the flaming.) -- Amazing 19:41, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - I think that is he does become a moderator the first chance he gets he'll ban MaulMachine. He has virtually gotten on most peoples nerves and is constantly bad mouthing people. If need be I will dig up examples. If I would have to choose between you and grim s guess what Grim would be the new mod. Your constant immaturity has caused many flame wars and also has made many people angry at you. You even attacked a moderator for making a logical decision in one of your flame wars between you and maulmachine. If for some reason you do become a moderator it would be the end of everyone who upsets you. --Deathnut ^RAF|W! 11:19, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Thanks... I think... And no, i have no intention of running for a moderator position at the moment, so everyone can breathe a sigh of releif. --Grim s 14:50, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • If I did ban MaulMachine, it'd last 5 seconds because I'd be watched so closely, and it'd be immediately undone and I'd be banned from the Wiki. I'm not that stupid, no matter what your opinion of me. Banning MaulMachine would effectively be handing MaulMachine my "defeat" - if I even felt it was possible to be "defeated" on a Wiki. You get what I'm saying. -- Amazing 19:48, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against - As a regular Wiki user, Amazing has repeatedly started conflicts with other users, and bent (or outright broken) rules when things don't go his way. I don't want to see what kind of crap he would try to pull if he had mod authority. Also, he says he wouldn't deal with any Wiki member he has argued with in the past; I think (assuming he keeps his word) that would severly hinder his usefulness as a mod. - Asrathe 12:01, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: I actually haven't started any conflicts. I specifically do not because I know the minute you start something, it's your fault. This doesn't seem to matter after all, however, because people who DO start conflicts now say I do, and hangers-on back them up. Well, at least I have my own self respect in that I do not start conflicts. -- Amazing 19:48, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Against -I've seen the case in wich amazing was an abritator and he made a well reasoned discission. He has also made a good amount of extremely valuable contibutions to the game and this wiki. His personal interaction is however worrisome, very thin-skinned he has trouble walking away from provocation, quick to percieve insults based or unbased and is dismisive of other peoples opinions once he feels personally challenced. The personallaty of a mod should above all, due to the very public and often very critism-prone position be not only devoid of those traits, but include a very thick skinn, a strongly developed patience, and have a disposition that makes him uncontroversial.--Vista ^W! 19:34, 28 March 2006 (BST)
  • Re: No disagreements. I do think some of our moderators currently do not fit those requirements, however. All I can say is that my conduct as a Moderator would be akin to my positive contributions, and my negative contributions (replying to attacks, inability to walk away from flaming) would be dropped. When this doomed bid inevitably fails, I'll conduct myself in a better manner when dealing with people I find irritating - and in a few months I'll resubmit with an ongoing clear record devoid of any roadblocks. -- Amazing 19:48, 28 March 2006 (BST)
    • Good idea. If you resubmit in a couple of months with a clean record then i'll support you.--The General 20:04, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• Tally - 19 Kills, 1 Spam, 1 (sarcastic?) Keep (20:16, 28 March 2006 (BST))

• Application Withdrawn until another time. Now that I've made my bid on record, I have seen what would hold me back from a Moderator position and can now adapt my behavior for a possible approval down the road. I've also been able to root out everyone who has been following my contributions. (I'm not referring to all the voters, but I know which ones.) - Additionally, I think some minds may be changed about me and my positions in reading my ability to keep calm demeanor in the face of seemingly uncontrollable rash, inflammatory, insulting, and immature behavior of others I have had trouble with in the past. I am thankful for the one "Keep" vote, but I think the voter and myself know that if this wasn't withdrawn, it'd be disapproved anyway (one way or another) - so this will at least end the flame baiting. -- Amazing 20:33, 28 March 2006 (BST)

• • Back from an extremely long hiatus. Anyways Amazing, thing is, there exists alot of negative attitude against you, and it will take a long time to dissipate that. AllStarZ 22:38, 23 April 2006 (BST)