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Another round, eh? Well, why not? I'm feeling kinda masochistic today.

Now, I know there will be a few people out there who I've managed to get really quite pissed at me over the last... oh, let's say a month. I just wanted to say sorry to you guys (who shall remain nameless; the lawyers are still hammering out the settlements :P) for all the trouble I've caused.

Moving on, as it's a touchy subject and I don't want to reoffend.

Since my last bid, I've cleaned up after a number of rather massive vandal sprees etc. etc. You know how it goes. I don't want to bore you with any more drivel.

One more thing; I know how some of you still have an issue with my...colourful...past with regard to my rulings on M/VB. Have no fear; I've definitely cleaned up my act in that department. No more frivolous cases or ad hominem attacks! I've converted to the path of reason. I don't know whether this will convince anyone, as most people tend to hold to their past experiences with people pretty closely, but I just wanted to let you all know that that's not how I've been behaving recently, and it's certainly not how I intend to behave in future.

So, here I am. Putting myself out there. Yup.

  • Vouch - Because he put hamtars in the basket. –Xoid STFU! 15:57, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Against - He's a rude jackass.--Gage 17:18, 27 August 2006 (BST)
    • A perfect demonstration of the double standard inherent in that vote may be found here, everyone. Cyberbob  Talk  06:32, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I don't agree with everything that he does, but that doesn't mean that he would be a bad Bureaucrat. I think he would be fine for the job. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 19:50, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I have no objections. – Nubis NWO 21:25, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - This vote will change to an Abstain if you do not put the Hamters in the basket. --Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS DORIS Hunt! 21:33, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Didn't I already vote for this one? Well... You are still bit better than Labine50. --Niilomaan GRR!Bob06! 21:49, 27 August 2006 (BST)
    • Thanks, Niilo. That makes me feel awesome :-P Cyberbob  Talk  02:56, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Against - Let's see about that future. Your recently is only one or two days old now. It's nothing personal and if what you claim there is true you can have my vouch in a month or two. --Bonefiver 06:26, 28 August 2006 (BST)
    • Eh? One or two days? Show me a frivolous VB case or bad Deletion decision I've made in the past one or two days. Cyberbob  Talk  06:30, 28 August 2006 (BST)
      • You forgot about ad hominem attacks like couple minutes ago in the Gage's vote above. It's great that you made peace with Kiki in the Suck Shit case (yesterday), but that's not convincing enough for me. I can't be bothered to read your contributions to find cases to prove my stance and I believe that the people who vote here know what you have been doing. Keep that motion you describe going on and you'll have my vouch in a month. --Bonefiver 06:58, 28 August 2006 (BST)
        • OK. That thing with Gage wasn't ad hominem. You sure you don't want to go look that up again? Besides, this is probably going to be the last round of Bureaucrat Promotions. For some obscure reason, people are inherently against more than one or two Bureaucrats. By the time a month's passed, it'll be too late. Thanks a lot. Cyberbob  Talk  07:06, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch--I've seen some of your edits and contributions. I like them, and you have Xoid's and Hammero's vote. That's good enough for me. --A1C JerryASSPKASAT 10:34, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch--The Easter Bunny video was funny - as though the other criteria really matter anyway ;) --ReeToric 10:53, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Against - frankly, i think there are better candidates than you. --DJSMITHCDF 17:38, 28 August 2006 (BST)
    • You'd be drawing on the vast experiences you've had with the inner workings of the wiki there, would you? Cyberbob  Talk  17:50, 28 August 2006 (BST)
      • Attacking those that vote against you will not paint you in a good light. I would suggest just letting them vote and leave it be. For your own sake. You get way to defensive sometimes. Tordeck 18:04, 28 August 2006 (BST)
      • Simply agreeing with Gage's assesment of you --DJSMITHCDF 18:00, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Against I'm more than willing to overlook past incidents, but some of CyberBob's responses do not have the neutral tone I prefer to see among those non-rank and file members.Steele Glovier2:17 PM, 28 August 2006 (EST)
  • Vouch - I had some... troubles with Cyberbob, mostly based on personal differences (and a tinny arbitration case). If he's true about what he said as an introduction to this postulation, then I'm happy to vouch for him. I really want to expect a lot less cursing from now on :) --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 19:55, 28 August 2006 (BST)Against - As people can read, when I vouched for him it was in the spirit that he really changed as he said in his postulation. Now I see that some people never changes. I tried to be neutral, understand him, a.l.w.a.y.s. c.o.n.t.a.i.n.i.n.g. m.y.s.e.l.f. It's no use, he just loves to hear himself speaking, and as The General said, he's incapable to read something without have a snipe to the author. A troll made mod if you ask me. Of course, he will call this vote "a vengeance", but just look at his behavior and how long I held this vote change and you'll understand. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:19, 8 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - He's not a troll, and he's FAIR. When he gives me shit, I take it seriously. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it! MrAushvitz 05:12, 29 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - A good moderator, always busy and always doing good. Pillsy 16:58, 29 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch-I don't always agree with what he says or how he says it, but he's my model for most improved wiki user. He definitely posts only with the best interests of the wiki at heart.Jjames 04:32, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • Against - can't fault his wiki-work, but a 'vouch' vote would appear to condone his willingness to involve himself in baiting and drama. -Dog Deever TNec 19:24, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - The tradition of promoting one Bureaucrat per go round should be broken. --Max Grivas JG,T,Max4Mod,F! 04:35, 31 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch- Why hasn't this come up before?--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 22:35, 31 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Another round? Huh. Anyway, Cyber's a good guy. He'd make a good 'crat. Also, MrAushvitz Vouch OMFG. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 04:06, 1 September 2006 (BST)
  • Against-Seems partial at times, and because of a comment he left on my talk which seemed quite immature and inappropriate, especially for a mod. Better people out there.Jackson 5 20:05, 2 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Friendly, Smart, Upbeat, and makes a mean grilled cheese sammich.... makes me forget he's an Aussie. --The Godfather of Resensitized, Anime Sucks 15:24, 3 September 2006 (BST)
  • Against - I'm almost too scared of getting flamed to put this vote in. Youronlyfriend 08:56, 5 September 2006 (BST)
  • Against - A good moderator, but not level headed enough to make a good bureaucrat IMO. - Jedaz 09:10, 5 September 2006 (BST)
  • Against - Doesn't seem capable of reading something without trying to have a snipe at the author. I do not feel that he is fit to moderate a forum for spamming, let alone be a bureaucrat on a wiki.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 22:42, 5 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Tells it like it is, which some egos can't handle. --Funt Solo 12:38, 8 September 2006 (BST)
  • Against - I think he's good at what he does, but he's just not mature enough to be a Bureaucrat. That's what I was going to say, good to see I'm not the only one who thinks the same. Maybe next time round? Certainly I think he could have what it takes. He just doesn't have it yet. David Malfisto 16:22, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Result: 15 Vouch, 11 Against, 4 net Vouches. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 00:53, 10 September 2006 (BST)

Bob Hammero

Thumbs up.jpg Hammero for Bureaucrat!
…for a better tomorrow!
Vote Bob Hammero for Bureaucrat in 2006. Vote today! Vote tomorrow!
Then show your support!

Want this on your page? Give Bob a Vouch and he'll give you the gold in the basket!

I nominate Bob Hammero. He's a really good guy and if anyone deserves it, it is him.--Gage 17:22, 27 August 2006 (BST)

  • Vouch - I'm willing to vote Hammero on this round. His gold is shiny. I am concerned if he wants th promotion, though.--Thari S T F U 19:12, 27 August 2006 (BST)

Wow, well, that was unexpected. :) I accept this nomination, and I would be willing to serve as our second active Bureaucrat if I am accepted. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 19:31, 27 August 2006 (BST)

Sorry, I guess if I really want this, I have to explain why. I'm very dedicated to the wiki. I've made a huge number of edits here, spearheaded various projects and policy changes, created tons of templates (including one that is used by hundreds of pages now), countered 3page on many of his vandalism sprees, deleted tons of pages, undeleted tens more, served in arbitration cases, protected pages, etc etc etc. Check the log and my contribs page if you want more details on what I've done. Basically, I'm a good moderator, and I would dutifully fulfill the role of Bureaucrat as well. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 19:47, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I think my vouch was understood when I nominated him--Gage 19:48, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Level headed and fair, near as I can tell. I'm only vouching for one person on this page, and he's it. --Miasig.gif(user)(talk) 20:04, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Yep. --Brizth M T 20:09, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Meh. Go for it. -- Krazy Monkey W! 20:15, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I believe his commitment to the game and the wiki are both genuine. Best choice all around. --Max Grivas JG,T,P! 20:16, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I'd Vouvh like Krazy Monkey but I think all he deserves is a vouch. --Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS DORIS Hunt! 20:54, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Against - I am not enjoying this contributor to this open forum - CharlieMarrow 21:05, 27 August 2006 (BST)
    Too bad it's a wiki and not a forum. --Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS DORIS Hunt! 21:07, 27 August 2006 (BST)
    You gotta pay for your enjoyment, buddy. Lots of gold in my basket. Pay up. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 21:09, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Bob Hammero and I haven't always seen eye to eye, but he applies the rules fairly, and has proven himself to be a good moderator. I support his ascention. --Kiki Lottaboobs 21:07, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Yeah, I've disagreed with him. However, he discusses things rationally and fairly. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 21:10, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch -
GoldInBasketCropped.jpg Gold in the Basket
This user resolved the situation by putting the gold in the basket.

That good enough, Bob? – Nubis NWO 21:27, 27 August 2006 (BST)

  • Perfect. When if I am promoted, you will receive much gold of your own. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 21:36, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - And even showing my support... Vote for Bob! --Niilomaan GRR!Bob06! 21:45, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Bob's skill with the wiki software and sound judgement are rarely equalled. -- Alan Watson Talk · MalTel 22:02, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Friendly, useful, efficient. Need I say more?--Canuhearmenow Hunt! 00:47, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - He can be a little power hungry at times... but if he can keep that under control, he'd make an excellent Bureaucrat. Cyberbob  Talk  03:03, 28 August 2006 (BST)
    It's thoroughly uncontrollable. For example, your signature had a slight static charge, so I just had to take a bite. I'm sorry. It didn't feel any pain. :( –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 03:34, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Against - I don't think he deserves this promotion. Liberator 05:40, 28 August 2006 (BST)
Sock puppets, rigging elections for a better tommorow....
Socks.gif Sock Puppets
Because democracy works better without all that pesky democracy.

--Zaruthustra 05:46, 28 August 2006 (BST)

  • Vouch - Because he will help me form a totalitarian oligarchy whose iron fist will crush all dissent. Also he helps out a lot and is a nice guy. --Zaruthustra 05:50, 28 August 2006 (BST)
    Grand Leader, when I am elected we will be ready to begin! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I mean thanks. Evil plans? Me? Never. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 05:54, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Now hand over the gold. --Bonefiver 06:29, 28 August 2006 (BST)
    I have placed the gold in the basket. Your favor will not be forgotten. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 06:38, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I think he's a good bloke and there isn't any reason for him not to be a bureaucrat. - Jedaz 08:29, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - An excellent choice. –Xoid STFU! 08:45, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Although I haven't been here that long at all, Bob Hammero is a name that comes up frequently, usually along with some kind of just justice. - The Badman 09:00, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch -With an awesome name like that, why not? :P --A1C JerryASSPKASAT 10:39, 28 August 2006 (BST)
Where's my gold, Bob? Hmmm?--A1C JerryASSPKASAT 09:54, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Deserves a salary for vigilant work in banning Go/Amazing/Tit - Rueful 14:24, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Ehhhh....exactly what do we get in exchange for voting for you? --Axe Hack 17:51, 28 August 2006 (BST)
    gold/hamtars in your basket of course!--Gage 18:05, 28 August 2006 (BST)
    Oh darn it...I was hoping for Fort Knox! --Axe Hack 18:10, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - He's the most active of all current mods, and he shows enormous interest on the wiki by constantly adressing wiki problems with his policies and requests to Kevan. He deserves this vouch more than anyone. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 19:51, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Against - I don't see it being a good thing. He seems a bit too "troll friendly" for my liking, I'd prefer someone who enforces the existing rules ex. voting policy. MrAushvitz 05:08, 29 August 2006 (BST)
    You think that I am troll friendly? You obviously never visit Vandal Banning. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 05:23, 29 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I can't say I'm a fan in light of recent silliness, but I can't question his contribution and his commitment. And, after all, it's not like we're electing him Pope. :) --Centerfire 09:28, 29 August 2006 (BST) Against - Changed my mind. Characterizes disagreement, and challenging of his questionable conduct through the proper channels, as "harassment". This demonstrates to me that he's lacks the necessary temperament for the job. --Centerfire 23:21, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • ---Vouch - He handles things very fairly. I was glad to see a policy response change that will help prevent events like OWS in the future. --Steele Glovier 15:58, 29 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Bob's good and his contributions are always good. Pillsy 16:59, 29 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - He will make a good bureaucrat. Do I get gold now? --Paradox244 W! TJ! 02:14, 30 August 2006 (BST)
    You not only get gold, you get gold-plated hamtsers! –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 02:20, 30 August 2006 (BST)
    All hail Bob! --Paradox244 W! TJ! 01:59, 5 September 2006 (BST)
  • vouch-Jjames 03:36, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - One of, if not the most active mod in wiki. --Nob666 13:13, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Yo, straight up fuck dem hataz, yo. Or whatever. --Mookiemookie 16:05, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - despite having little contact with him myself, he seems fair and reasonable -Dog Deever TNec 19:19, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Lol bandwagon--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 22:36, 31 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Now retarct my hamters, Bob. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 04:09, 1 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouce - Bob seems like a good non-idiot user of the wiki, Why Not? --DarkStar2374383 Talk | LDY | LOE 04:01, 3 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - It's a vouchwagon. Youronlyfriend 08:45, 3 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Unbiased... with just a hint of sage.--The Godfather of Resensitized, Anime Sucks 15:26, 3 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I'm unbiased....ish. --Penance 17:13, 3 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch -Sure. Seems like a good mod and I need the mon... uh... he's a good mod. --Grigori 03:54, 8 September 2006 (BST)
  • Against - Too elitist. --Funt Solo 12:41, 8 September 2006 (BST) Vouch - New information. --Funt Solo 18:49, 9 September 2006 (BST)
    Are you kidding? Bob is the mod of the common man...--Gage 20:19, 8 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I might not agree with what he does ingame but he keeps it clearly separate from wiki so its a vouxh from me :) --MarieThe Grove 18:58, 8 September 2006 (BST)
  • Against - I just dislike wiki banners. It's a terrible reason to vote against a promotion, I know, but I disagree that he's the mod of the common man. Nor have I seen that many of his wiki edits. I'm not saying that he's not friendly, and I'm not saying that he hasn't done a lot for the wiki - I'm just saying I haven't had any experience of him that isn't cluttering pages with banners. - David Malfisto 16:27, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Result: 39 Vouch, 5 Against, 34 net Vouches. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 00:57, 10 September 2006 (BST)


Yeah. So. You guys finally get an IP checker, and I can't use it. This makes me sad. In a lonely angst sort of way. For every user that votes against, I will slash my arm once with a rusty razor blade. However all that vouch get compensation in the form of Gold in Baskets. Show some love :( Anyways. Yeah.

As you all obviously know by now, I kick ass. And stuff. Just look at the contributions list, and the block log. And maybe some moderation pages here or there. I also promise to pull us out of the war in Iraq. Maltonians come home! Or something.

But I digress.


Oh, nevermind. – Nubis 13:30, 27 August 2006 (BST)

  • Vouch - On the proviso that you are actually serious about this. I'm talking to Kevan about how there is a need for more people than merely bureaucrats to have the checkuser functionality. Assuming he agrees, you're not going to withdraw this bid, are you? –Xoid STFU! 13:37, 27 August 2006 (BST)
Withdrawing is for ninnies who don't want an unsuccessful attempt to look as bad. I am serious, I just prefer a lighter tone than one of rampant tooting my own horn with stuff that the people who matter already know and the people that don't aren't going to look at. I'm a humble kid, I guess. – Nubis NWO 13:52, 27 August 2006 (BST)
You have my full support then. –Xoid STFU! 14:00, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Nubis has earnt my genuine respect many times over. Cyberbob  Talk  15:51, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - never had any problems with him--Gage 17:19, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Nubis is a fine moderator, and would make an impartial Bureaucrat. I have no doubts in his abilities. Now type {{ResolvedGold}} for me. ;) –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 19:42, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Against - Prone to causing problems at least off the Wiki, plus there's no need. (Is that one slash?) --Miasig.gif(user)(talk) 20:01, 27 August 2006 (BST)
You make me sad. Please excuse me while I cut myself. No gold for you. – Nubis NWO 21:31, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Is on all the time and is one of the first people to ban vandals. --Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS DORIS Hunt! 20:55, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Angst? Remember Nubis, it's down the road, not across the street! Anyway, great work on M/VB.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 21:29, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Bring the men back home. But leave the guns... They might like those over there. --Niilomaan GRR!Bob06! 21:52, 27 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I reckon Nubis would make a good bureaucrat. - Jedaz 08:54, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - A month ago I wuold have asked "who are you?", but now he seems to be more active and shows that his judgement as a moderator can be trusted. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 19:48, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Ka-ching. --Lucero Talk U! 21:46, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  • Against - Troll friendly, no. MrAushvitz 05:09, 29 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I've not really seen much of Nubis but what I have has been good. Pillsy 17:00, 29 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Give me the Gold. And maybe some cookies. --Paradox244 W! TJ! 02:15, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch- A tireless supporter of the wiki.Jjames 04:34, 30 August 2006 (BST)
    Vouch - Hey, I nominated him for Mod, and he's done a respectable job thus far... So I will throw my support in for Bureaucrat
    Sorry, gotta sign. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 05:21, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Dang, I just realized it too and came back to fix it. --ERNesbittP·T·MalTel 05:25, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - No reason not to. Flammaster II 16:34, 31 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch Nubis is filled with win and god--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 22:31, 31 August 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - I heard there was gold? I woulda settled for Spam... NO TAKE BACKS!--The Godfather of Resensitized, Anime Sucks 15:28, 3 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Never had a problem with him. Never known anyone who's had a problem with him (I don't associate with trolls or Mr A). - David Malfisto 16:29, 9 September 2006 (BST)
  • Vouch - Great Moderator, would make an excellent Bureaucrat :) --MarieThe Grove 21:37, 9 September 2006 (BST)

Result: 19 Vouch, 2 Against, 17 net Vouches. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 00:59, 10 September 2006 (BST)