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This page is an archive of Hagnat's Promotions candidacy, which was unsuccessful. If you wish to speak with this candidate, please use their Talk page.

hagnat

hey there, it's me again :D Many already know my past work as a user and as a sysop here in the wiki, so i will skip this part. I have found myself time and space to spare with urbandead again - i can has new house, job and gf - so i would like to run around with the cool buttons again. Some might argue that it's a little early, that i haven't meet the 500 edits in the past six months asked in the promotion criteria, but i'd like to remind that "If a user is highly exemplary in one criterion, a certain amount of leeway may be given with the other criteria." and that i *am* highly exemplary in the other three criterions :P --hagnat 17:52, 9 June 2011 (BST)

  • vouch - he meets my criteria of telling me all his adventures with young, hot Brazilian women... oh and he does good wiki stuff too--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 17:57, 9 June 2011 (BST)
  • Against - Tosser. --Papa Moloch 18:33, 9 June 2011 (BST)
  • Vouch - Hagnat is more active now, and very few wiki users actually fulfil the 500 edits criterion (most of the current sysops don't). I like hagnat; he's a fun guy and he actually does care about the wiki.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 18:37, 9 June 2011 (BST)
    Viva la Hagnat!--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 09:20, 10 June 2011 (BST)
  • Vouch - Trustworthy; knows his way around the wiki and he's been around here about as long as I have.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:24, 9 June 2011 (BST)
  • Against - I can't condone the oppage of someone who doesn't understand basic capitalization. Additionally, I refuse to vouch for someone who uses "I can has" unironically and/or in a personal statement.--Deadman Walken 20:04, 9 June 2011 (BST)
    You shall be the first to be destroyed when hagnat rises to glory.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 20:34, 9 June 2011 (BST)
    He just reminds me of Sir Ron Lionheart is all. I can't take a man like that seriously--Deadman Walken 20:41, 9 June 2011 (BST)
    i can has an irish accent when i speak in english... its hilarious --hagnat 20:58, 9 June 2011 (BST)
    North or south? Nothing to be done! 05:05, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    Seriously ? Them irish all look the same fun & lovin' drunkards to me --hagnat 14:07, 17 June 2011 (BST)
  • <hagnat> seriously, you have to be wrong in the head to accept becomming a UDwiki sysop ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 20:25, 9 June 2011 (BST)
    as you can see, i am fully qualified for the job --hagnat 20:36, 9 June 2011 (BST)
  • Question In which of the areas that you've contributed in in the last six months did you miss the buttons, and why? -- Spiderzed 20:45, 9 June 2011 (BST)
    ban hammering bots, deleting useless pages, moving shit around. --hagnat 20:49, 9 June 2011 (BST)
    So, essentially, we would gain another op who does nothing but to shuffle paper and handle the menial op tasks as A/VB/B or A/SD. Not that that is inherently bad (we can always use people dealing with the mind-numbing stuff), but from an op candidate, I expect a bit of more than that. And I expect to be an extension of janitorial work done as a regular user, rather than the be-all and end-all of their wiki activity. For now, I have to be Against that bid.
    PS: In the meantime, if you look for a badly neglected gnome project that can be handled with regular buttons and help you to raise your profile, look here. The original maintainer Axe Hack has had network troubles for quite some time, and I have only half-heartedly kept it up (and won't have much time for it the next few weeks due to work). -- Spiderzed 20:32, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    actually, i used to run several projects here in the wiki and they ALL required the tool belt to get on a steady pace, rather than having me waiting for someone else to do tasks for me or clean any artifacts i may have left behind while building said projects. Me having them tools is not only allowing me to do janitor's work, but to use them to make my life easier while developing tools for the community to use - like the danger map, the suburb box and the danger report --hagnat 14:05, 17 June 2011 (BST)
    Simpletons talk of the past, wise men of the present, and fools of the future. I have no doubt that you have experience, know the buttons and have stemmed stuff in the past, but recent edits don't convince me. -- Spiderzed 13:26, 19 June 2011 (BST)
  • Vouch - Hagnat knows what he is doing, has been a sysop before, has shown to be trustworthy, and is willing to accept compromises in order to solve problems. I see no problem with him being re-promoted. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 21:34, 9 June 2011 (BST)
  • Vouch - did a decent enough job last time --Honestmistake 07:56, 10 June 2011 (BST)
  • Abstain - If he goes renegade and have strange moments again we'll be on his arse faster than Grim on a noob :D -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 09:35, 10 June 2011 (BST)
    Against as per persuasive notes made by Aichon, as usual, and Riseabove. I'm for bringing back old users but seriously, he really doesn't do anything. otherwise I mimic Aichon. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 03:58, 11 June 2011 (BST)
  • Vouch - Tosser.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 10:26, 10 June 2011 (BST)
  • Vouch - schmuck --- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת12:13, 10 June 2011 (bst)
  • Vouch - Don't really know the guy, and the whole job and gf thing kinda throws me off, but if he's insane like 90% of UDers, he'll fit right in! Why not? --Akbar 23:34, 10 June 2011 (BST)
  • Against - At least for now. Looking through your contribs, you asked for your entire userspace to be deleted just a few months back, which doesn't speak well to your commitment, and you were Warned for spamming admin pages, which indicates you consider it a joke (iz srs bzns!). Both of those are forgivable, but about a third of your janitorial work for the last six months came from a one day categorization spree you went on last week. I'd like to see a bit more consistency and sustained activity before vouching, especially since your contribs also indicate that you're regularly inactive for a week or more at a time (eight times since the start of the year, in fact). You're a good guy, and a lot of your recent activity is excellent work, but I'd like to see more of it before trusting you with the admin pages and buttons. Aichon 00:27, 11 June 2011 (BST)
  • Vouch more Tea Parties in Ridleybank --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 01:11, 11 June 2011 (BST)
  • Against Not so much for what he may or may not have done, but because this wiki has way too many fucking sysops as is. Trim some of the dead weight like The General and MisterGame and then maybe start promoting people who can actually do the fucking job right. --You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Crywig.gif 01:32, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    From the top: The current amount of System Operators running should not influence your decisions when voicing your opinion. Aichon 02:26, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    And? --You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Crywig.gif 03:19, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    It weakens the argument. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 03:42, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    As AHLG said. And since this isn't a vote, the 'crats aren't just counting the vouch and against statements, but are rather looking to see why the candidate does or doesn't have support. If you say Against for a reason that the top of the page effectively says isn't valid, then your Against statement carries virtually no weight. I figured you would like to know something like that. Aichon 04:09, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    And I figured you'd like to go fuck yourself. When the fuck did "should not" turn into "does not"? Hell, since we're going for quantity over quality why not make everyone a fucking sysop? After all, apparently there's no such thing as too many anymore. --You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Crywig.gif 05:27, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    You do realize you're arguing with someone who also voiced an Against, right? And that I was pointing it out so that you'd have the opportunity to add some more weight to your opinion? I actually do agree that there is a point where adding more sysops is counterproductive. What I was pointing out is that it won't be given much credence as an argument, but, as you said, the wording is "should not", which means you are still more than welcome to voice that opinion anyway, regardless of the weight it might be afforded. And hey, I can see why you might be confused and "figured" I'd want to do that to myself. As a troll, I'd expect no less of a response from you after we've only just met and you've only had time to make snap judgements of me. Anything less, and I'd take it to mean I hadn't been helpful enough. As an aside, love the screen name. :) Aichon 05:50, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    Yes! I'm out of the bottom two! :D --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 20:51, 11 June 2011 (BST)
  • Against Never really liked hagnat's rulings on most things, don't see why we need a revolving door for the same old clique to keep coming back & leaving ad infinitum. --RiseYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||above 01:49, 11 June 2011 (BST)
  • Against I still remember in 08 when he tried to use policy to stop players from voting if they weren't in his circle jerk clique. The wiki is here for the game not the other way around. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 02:05, 11 June 2011 (BST)
  • vO͑̇͒̈̒uC̨͗ͤ͒̑H̺͎̼̪͈̗̗̤̝̪̉̒ͪ̄͆ͣ̾̀͞ --jorm 05:24, 11 June 2011 (BST)
  • Vouch hagnat has always been pretty level-headed in the dealings I've seen. A lot better than that wacko The General. --Zod Rhombus 19:49, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    So glad we agree on something :P.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 08:47, 17 June 2011 (BST)
  • Against - Aichon'd it pretty much. -- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:37, 11 June 2011 (BST)
    Strong Against: Hurt my feelings -- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:33, 20 June 2011 (BST)
  • Vouch - Headed down south to the land of the pines and I'm thumbin' my way into North Caroline. Starin' up the road, pray to God I see headlights. I made it down the coast in seventeen hours; pickin' me a bouquet of dogwood flowers and I'm a hopin' for Raleigh I can see my baby tonight. So rock me mama like a wagon wheel. Rock me mama anyway you feel. Hey mama rock me. Rock me mama like the wind and the rain. Rock me mama like a south-bound train. Hey mama rock me. Runnin' from the cold up in New England, I was born to be a fiddler in an old-time stringband. My baby plays the guitar; I pick a banjo now. Oh, the North country winters keep a gettin' me now. Lost my money playin' poker so I had to up and leave. But I ain't a turnin' back to livin' that old life no more. So rock me mama like a wagon wheel. Rock me mama anyway you feel. Hey mama rock me. Rock me mama like the wind and the rain. Rock me mama like a south-bound train. Hey mama rock me. Walkin' to the south out of Roanoke I caught a trucker out of Philly, had a nice long toke. But he's a headed west from the Cumberland Gap to Johnson City, Tennessee. And I gotta get a move on before the sun. I hear my baby callin' my name and I know that she's the only one. And if I die in Raleigh at least I will die free. So rock me mama like a wagon wheel. Rock me mama anyway you feel. Hey mama rock me. Rock me mama like the wind and the rain. Rock me mama like a south-bound train. Hey mama rock me. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 03:03, 17 June 2011 (BST)
  • Vouch Interesting Misconduct data you got there, Hagz. Can't say I read every bit of it but I read enough. You have my axe! ~Vsig.png 14:39, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Clarify? - Labia on the Internet makes a pretty serious accusation there. If it's true, my vote is Against. hagnat (or anyone else who was there), comment? Mordred 23:16, 18 June 2011 (BST)
    the policy in question is here. Make your own judgements.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 00:05, 19 June 2011 (BST)
    The one I was thinking of was the first attempt here. It had 3 votes for and 54 votes against. Lol. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 11:11, 20 June 2011 (BST)
    Yeah, that one had to be fine tuned a lil bit :P --hagnat 12:28, 20 June 2011 (BST)
    Holy Christ, hagnat, what were you thinking? That was 2008, so I'm hoping you've become more self-aware, so as to be less unintentionally-fascist, in the last 3 years. Mordred 07:31, 24 June 2011 (BST)
    Actually, u said it. It was 2007, and there were several users who would meet the required amount of edits. --hagnat 20:39, 24 June 2011 (BST)
  • I have absolutely no doubt that Hagnat has the wiki's best interests at heart in pretty much all he does here, and he has contributed greatly to it's functionality over the year. It's just his unpredictability lately, and willingness to say "fuck the rules" a bit too quickly, that gives me pause -- boxy 10:17, 20 June 2011 (BST)
    I wont lie to anyone by saying i would respect the rules cuz i still believe rules are there only to prevent abuse, not to be followed through all the time --hagnat 12:28, 20 June 2011 (BST)
    Just like there is no need of democracy when the king is a good man; your attitude makes me uncomfortable. Against. Mordred 07:46, 24 June 2011 (BST)

Result

Waiting until both 'cats can weigh in on this one. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 04:10, 24 June 2011 (BST)

Right, after eventual discussion the decision has made to Deny the bid, this decision is mainly due to the lack of edits, both janitorial and in total. Be active for a few months, get back to voting on deletions and stuff and give it another shot. --Rosslessness 07:59, 27 June 2011 (BST)