UDWiki:Administration/Sysop Archives/Hagnat/2013-06-14 Promotion

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Yeah, its me again. This time i am going to do this seriously, as the previous one was a mere joke.

Thing is, I care for the urban dead wiki, and i care **A LOT**. This should've come without saying, i suppose... What I don't care for is its rules, its wikilawering, as anyone who have seen me in action known for a fact. What I care for is its users and its history. What matters for me is that i have fun, and so does everyone else. That's why we are all here after all. You all know that i am a rogue sysop, but i use the power for the greater good of the community.

If promoted, i dont promise that i will be more active in the wiki. Heck, i will be as active as swiers was in its final months. -- ok, i will be a lot more active than that... i have to come in here to blank my talk page every time harris edits it -- But i will be here, as i always have been. I will be another user which everyone in here knows that can be trusted to banhammer bots, revert whatever vandal comes around and provide a neutral POV on things. I will also try to usurp power from kevan grant more power to all of us which currently are no more than regular users.

And if that was not enough for you guys to forget whatever guidelines there is in this page -- guidelines which i wrote, heh -- and promote me, i will leave here a picture of me sitting in the iron throne, which proves how awesome i am --hagnat 03:00, 14 June 2013 (BST)

the image has changed... will return to be the iron throne as soon as the revolution ends in here... --hagnat 05:10, 19 June 2013 (BST)

• THRONE – Normally this would be a Couch, but c’mon, LOOK AT THAT THING ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 09:28, 14 June 2013 (BST)
• VOUCH - That is a sweet throne. Also, psyops conspiracy = teh funz. --RadicalWhig 09:40, 14 June 2013 (BST)
• HUGDOR - HUGDOR HUGDOR HUGDORHUGDORHUGDOR! --HUGDOR^hugdor?! 17:27, 14 hugdor 2013 (BST)
• Against. While I understand and appreciate your drive to change the wiki culture, my objection from the last bid still stands. Since you wrote the guidelines, this may be them biting you in the rear, but your activity levels have not been anywhere near what's expected of a sop candidate. And your statement above that you won't make an effort to increase activity means I can't support this bid, serious or not. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 19:25, 14 June 2013 (BST)

  There's a reason they're guidelines and not requirements. They're there to judge interest in the community, something which may be accepted as judged in this case since he clearly already know what he's getting into. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 19:49, 14 June 2013 (BST)

  Actually, that one says "Significant activity within the community"; "Interest" is what is judged through the bullet below it. Although in this case I don't see either as having been nearly fulfilled, at least since 2011 or so. If Hagnat wants to lead a renaissance, he should gather the broad support of the community first, something that doesn't require sysop powers (nor do the mechanisms for change, like policy voting, require such powers). Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 22:16, 14 June 2013 (BST)

  I've been around since before these were a thing, the purpose is to make sure the user knows what duties are and will meet the expected activity level, they're barometers to measure unknowns and new applicants. As someone who successfully met that activity level many years Hagnat clearly knows what he's signing up for. Guidelines are meant to be breakable and hagnat represents a case where they'd clearly be obstructing their intended purpose. We have frequently waves them in the past and this is a case where it'd be foolish not to. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 01:05, 15 June 2013 (BST)

  To quote Hagnat above:
  

Hagnat said:

If promoted, i dont promise that i will be more active in the wiki.

• His current activity level over the past year has not been anywhere near that expected of sysops, and he has no intention to increase it. He may have been active enough years ago, but that isn't relevant to his current promotion. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:41, 15 June 2013 (BST)

  so you would rather vouch an active troll than an sporadic contributor which the community knows for a long long time already ? --hagnat 21:14, 14 June 2013 (BST)

  I wouldn't vouch either one. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 22:16, 14 June 2013 (BST)

• I've always (secretly?) loved his loosy goosey attitude with the rules. If we have our way, well, we won't have too many rules left. We'll have the hippopotamus instead. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:57, 14 June 2013 (BST)

  what about the hippo ? --hagnat 21:14, 14 June 2013 (BST)

  We'll just have to put up with the hippo. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:28, 14 June 2013 (BST)

• Against - Wiki renaissance first, then a promotion. With things still as they are, a promotion doesn't make sense. —Aichon— 20:04, 14 June 2013 (BST)

  With sysop powers, any changes a ranaissange requires will be a hell lot easier to be accomplished --hagnat 20:26, 14 June 2013 (BST)

  You'll need to justify that with some examples of where they'll help before I'll go along with it, since nothing comes to mind, but I'm open to the idea. —Aichon— 22:20, 14 June 2013 (BST)

  moving pages is the first thing that comes in mind, and editing protected templates. --hagnat 03:24, 17 June 2013 (BST)

• Vouch Wiki could use some more sysops. ~ _{00:26, 15 June 2013 (UTC)}

  Some good ones yes. --Jerk 14:25, 15 June 2013 (BST)

• Vouch Sounds like fun! I'll play! --Akbar 00:31, 15 June 2013 (BST)
• Against --Papa Moloch 07:45, 15 June 2013 (BST)
• Vouch -Hagnat clearly cares for the wiki. --Karloth Vois ^¯\(°_o)/¯ 11:51, 15 June 2013 (BST)
• Against - bad --Jerk 14:25, 15 June 2013 (BST)
• Vouch - I will nominate haggy every 2 weeks until he becomes sysop. Go ahead... make a policy--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 21:20, 16 June 2013 (BST)
• question - hagnat. is that you in the picture? sitting on the iron? please put on clear circular glasses? i think you would look like john lennon.-- 01:31, 17 June 2013 (BST)

  i used to own a circular glass... it made me look like a dork... so i am sorry but ill have to decline your request :(

  and besides, my friends nicknamed that picture "jeofrey after burger king", and we grew found of it :) --hagnat 03:17, 17 June 2013 (BST)

  against- I have not seen recent effort put in by hagnat-- 13:26, 29 June 2013 (BST)

• What do you want to do with the extra permissions? -- boxy 11:35, 17 June 2013 (BST)

  like i said above, mostly move stuff around, edit protected templates, banhammer bots, delete pages i created myself while i try to building something new --hagnat 03:30, 20 June 2013 (BST)

  Please don't think that psyop privileges are needed to "build something new". Consensus is what is necessary there. That said, you clearly care about this place, and I trust you... and who am I to lecture about upping contribution levels -- boxy 14:06, 29 June 2013 (BST)

  i am sure they are not but, on the other hand, i rather have the gun and not have to use it, than have to use it and not have it --hagnat 22:43, 29 June 2013 (BST)

  You're the second most active contributor on the wiki right now and one of only three that has over 1000 edits in the last three months (the other two being Bob and myself). —Aichon— 02:32, 30 June 2013 (BST)

• Against hagnat is a massive fuckwit don't do this to yourselves Cyberbob  Talk  13:37, 19 June 2013 (BST)

  love you too, bob :* --hagnat 03:30, 20 June 2013 (BST)

• Vouch - Because hagnat's a good guy and Cyberbob is a massive twat BURN THE WITCH or whatever battle cry the basement nerd losers are using now. --Zod Rhombus 03:09, 21 June 2013 (BST)
• Vouch Because he did a pretty decent job in the past (mostly) and surely the fact that he's still here proves that he has a long term interest --Honestmistake 17:41, 21 June 2013 (BST)
• Against because he isn't needed. →Son of Sin← 14:41, 22 June 2013 (BST)

  We may not deserve him, but he is the sysop we need right now.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 18:15, 30 June 2013 (BST)

  that makes me what now, harvey dent ? --hagnat 20:09, 1 July 2013 (BST)

Shouldn't this have been decided atleast 2 weeks ago?--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 23:29, 10 July 2013 (BST)

Oh yeah, Rejected is the thought I had. I'd suggest reading spiderzeds comment on the last bid. --Rosslessness 00:13, 11 July 2013 (BST)