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Contents 1 Guidelines for Vandalism Reporting 2 Before Submitting a Report 3 Adbots 4 Vandalism Report Space 4.1 July 2008 4.1.1 User:Blake_Firedancer 4.1.2 User:Z1nk666, User:Zinker and User:Rrnman 4.1.3 User:Wiki Guy 4.2 June 2008 4.2.1 User:SqlGb0 4.2.2 User:Blake_Firedancer 4.2.3 User:TerminalFailure 4.2.4 User:Novascotia 4.2.5 User:Karloth_vois 4.2.6 User:WOOT 4.2.7 User:Nallan, User:J3D and User:Sexylegsread 4.2.8 User:DOTTS DarkShade 4.2.9 User:Tselita 4.2.10 User:Roxas1113 4.2.11 User:Gardenator 4.2.12 User:T13 4.2.13 User:Suver 4.2.14 User:Goolina 4.2.15 User:Die zombies 4.2.16 User:Alan 4.2.17 User:Terra 4.2.18 User:Bob probert 2000 4.2.19 User:Hypno 4.2.20 User:Zaphod Beeblebrox 4.2.21 User:Insomniac By Choice 4.2.22 User:Ioncannon11 4.2.23 User:No o.O 4.2.24 User:Zaphod Beeblebrox 4.2.25 User:MisterGame 4.2.26 User:Nemesis Omega 4.2.27 User:0.o 4.2.28 User:Jarid 4.2.29 User:SporeSore 4.2.30 User:Tselita 4.2.31 User:Gunney 4.2.32 User:Heads or Tails 4.2.33 User:O.o 4.2.34 User:Mutant Dog 4.2.35 User:WanYao 4.2.36 User:Cyberbob240 4.2.37 User:Cyberbob240 4.2.38 User:O.O 4.2.39 User:Saromu 4.2.40 User:Blake_Firedancer 4.3 Archive

This page is for the reporting of vandalism within the Urban Dead wiki, as defined by vandalism policy. On this wiki, the punishment for Vandalism is temporary banning, but due to security concerns, the ability to mete out this punishment is restricted to System Operators. As such, regular users will need to lodge a report for a Vandal to be banned from the wiki. For consistency and accountability, System Operators are requested to note on this board their actions in dealing with Vandals.

[edit] Guidelines for Vandalism Reporting

In dealing with Vandalism, time is often of the essence. As such, we ask that all users include the following information in a Vandalism report:

• A link to the pages in question.

Preferably bolded for visibility. If the Vandalism is occurring over a sufficiently large number of pages, instead include a time range of the vandalism attempt, or alternatively, a link to the first vandalised page. This allows us to quickly find the damage so we can quickly assess the situation.

• The user name of the Vandal.

This allows us to more easily identify the culprit, and to check details.

• A signed datestamp.

For accountability purposes, we ask that you record in your request your user name and the time you lodged the report.

• Please report at the top.

There's conflict with where to post and a lot of the reports are missed. If it's placed at the top of the page it's probably going to be seen and dealt with.

If you see a Vandalism in progress, don't wait for System Operators to deal with it, as there may be no System Operator online at the time. Lodge the report, then start reverting pages back to their original form. This can be done by going to the "History" tab at the top of the page, and finding the last edit before the Vandal's attack. When a System Operator is available, they'll assess the situation, and if the report is legitimate, we will take steps to either warn the vandal, or ban them if they are on their second warning.

If the page is long, you can add new reports by editing the top report and placing your new report above its header in the edit screen.

[edit] Before Submitting a Report

• This page, Vandal Banning, deals with breaches of official policy.
• Interpersonal complaints are better sorted out at UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration.
• As much as is practical, assume good faith and try to iron out problems with other users one to one, only using this page as a last resort.
• Avoid submitting reports which are petty.

[edit] Adbots

Report adbots here. The log of all bans is found at Block log. The list of currently blocked users is found at Ipblocklist. This space should be cleared once a day.

[edit] Vandalism Report Space

Administration Notice

Talk with the user before reporting or accusing someone of vandalism for small edits. In most cases it's simply a case of a new user that doesn't know how this wiki works. Sometimes assuming good faith and speaking with others can avoid a lot of drama, and can even help newbies feel part of this community.

Administration Notice

If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or directly involved in the case, the administration asks that you use the talk page for further discussion. Free-for-all commenting can lead to a less respectful environment.

Administration Notice

Warned users can remove one entry of their warning history every one month and 250 edits after their last warning. Remember to ask a sysop to remove them in due time. You are as responsible for keeping track of your history as the sysops are; In case of a sysop wrongly punishing you due to an outdated history, he might not be punished for his actions.

[edit] July 2008

[edit] User:Blake_Firedancer

(Blake_Firedancer | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

Impersonation. -- Iscariot ^{BB2 PK WTE} 02:06, 5 July 2008 (BST)

Could you really call this impersonation? It seems to me like Blake was just trying to make sure nobodies wiki crashed. Bad faith? I don't think so.--Nitro378 ^{T JNL} 10:27, 5 July 2008 (BST)

It was something I added so that no-one thought that this particular template was deleted for the reason all the others were up for deletion. I certainly didn't mean to impersonate anyone. Besides, as the guy who submitted that template page for deletion, I figured I'd put up the explanation. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL?} 11:21, 5 July 2008 (BST)

Not vandalism - Iscariot, please learn the definition of impersonation before bringing pointless cases to Vandal Banning. They just clog up the page and are a waste of time ruling on. Thank you. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 12:09, 5 July 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Z1nk666, User:Zinker and User:Rrnman

(Z1nk666 | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data ){{(Zinker | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )(Rrnman | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

Confirmed alt of Novascotia. Looks like Boxy missed him in the month ban thingy. I've applied it to this guy as well. Ban circumvention. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 22:50, 3 July 2008 (BST)

I'll ban the other two as well, just so that every avenue is covered. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 22:59, 3 July 2008 (BST)

Out of curiosity, isn't Rrnman an alt of Ahrimmagicks? --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 23:13, 3 July 2008 (BST)

Not sure. Where do you get that from? If he is, then it's permabans all round. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 23:18, 3 July 2008 (BST)

Look at Rrnman's contributions. There's an edit to Ahrimmagicks sock Austin's sig, a post on The Surgeon General's talkpage (Ahrimmagicks was briefly tutored by TSG through Project Mentor), there's an edit to Suicidalangel's talkpage (Ahrimmagicks was banned for vandalism to SA's userpage, and was always stealing code off him), and two edits to Zinker's userpage.

Look at Red Rev Net's history. Note how Ahrimmagicks is replaced by Austin, who, once banned, is replaced by Rrnman.

Finally, look at User:Rrnman/sandbox. Compare to Ahrimmagicks' userpage. Both crude code thefts from SA. --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 23:32, 3 July 2008 (BST)

Nice one. I've been doing some digging of my own and came up with the Red Rev link and a few edits between pages as well. It may be circumstantial but at the very least shows some sort of connection between the accounts. An accidental edit here and there can bring a sock puppeteer down. I'll get some diffs and that should be case closed methinks. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 23:38, 3 July 2008 (BST)

I give up trying to get decent diffs. All you need to do is just compare the contribs. They all match up. Its like he's talking to himself in places. I've also come across two more alts (User:Zink and User:Zinkthekiller and the most telling page of all User:Ahrimmagicks/Zinkthereviver. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 00:05, 4 July 2008 (BST)

One more alt for you: 5483. There's also a link to Zinker's userpage in Ahrimmagicks' Nav Bar, and his fake "you have new messages" banner. --Sir Bob Fortune ^RR 00:11, 4 July 2008 (BST)

Omg...it's like a fucking sockpuppet theater. O_O -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 00:13, 4 July 2008 (BST)

Who the hell does that sort of crap and doesn't think they'll get caught out? DanceDanceRevolution 09:17, 4 July 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Wiki Guy

(Wiki Guy | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

4 contribs at time of report, all vandalising a single groups page and subpages. -- ^The Rooster 18:56, 2 July 2008 (BST)

Four and Out... Permabanned. Conndraka^{mod TTBA CFT} 19:22, 2 July 2008 (BST)

[edit] June 2008

[edit] User:SqlGb0

(SqlGb0 | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )
Just look at the contributions man. --Rosslessness 10:17, 29 June 2008 (BST)

permad, Vista banned it for a year last year and it just expired. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 10:28, 29 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Blake_Firedancer

(Blake_Firedancer | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )
He [deleted] a lot of suggestions from the Talk:Suggestions page. (I cannot load that link try looking at the [edit] that I made right before Blake Firedancer.) Some were up for deletion, but several still have active comments less than 5 days old.

Talk:Suggestions said:

Developing suggestions that appear to have been abandoned (i.e. two days or longer without any new edits) will be given a warning for deletion. If there are no new edits it will be deleted five days following the warning.

I'm going to attempt to revert the suggestions that are still under discussion. -- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - הפוסל במומו פוסל ^TMG 09:53, 28 June 2008 (BST) Ok I cycled the suggestions over 7 days old and put up {{Template:SNRV}} for the ones with no conversations in the last two days. -- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - הפוסל במומו פוסל ^TMG 10:42, 28 June 2008 (BST)

OK... I can't get your diff comparisons, even after fixing the linkage in you post. The wiki has been screwy over the last couple of days, with large gaps with absolutely no posts being recorded (server down?), but then, my connection hasn't been that great either. I don't know if anyone else can get anything meaningful from those diff comparisons, but if not, I'm going to put this down to server issues and rule not vandalism -- boxy ^{talk • i} 11:54 28 June 2008 (BST)

Same here. :/ I've noticed that the server's been a bit gay lately. Either way, it could just be he didn't notice the active conversations. Not vandalism. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 12:41, 28 June 2008 (BST)

I haven't looked at the links in question, but as someone that tries to regularly prune that page I can say that it is a bit difficult determining if things have new conversation on them. Sometimes the new comments are replies in the middle so I can see how this mistake could be made. --– Nubis 13:07, 28 June 2008 (BST)

I did? Sorry about that, I was having some trouble with my 'net that day. Pages from the wiki weren't loading properly, and I think it might have half-submitted an edit I made to include a suggestion. My bad. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL?} 02:41, 29 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:TerminalFailure

(TerminalFailure | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

Because the sysops refused to permaban TF he is back and vandalizing DORIS and my pages.

• Brainstock page
• Template made by me, not in violation of arby's agreement, does not name him, was not made for him, vandalized by him
• Removed DORIS from Suburb Historical list, this is for the suburb, not Malton and does nto require a historical vote
• Same as above
• Same as above
• DORIS is there hunting TZH, a known fact, just TF on a remove spree
• Redirected OUR special page to Dulston page
• Redirected OUR redirect to OUR special page to Dulston page

He's had several bans, was told to not edit DORIS pages even in good faith, was told to avoid me and AS, was told all this other stuff in vandal bans and Arby's and refuses to listen. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 00:12, 28 June 2008 (BST)

Vandalism Lots of it. Move for permaban. Have monthbanned him for the time being. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 08:09, 28 June 2008 (BST)

Perma - first thing he did was come back and start vandalising. He's had his last chance. Gorn -- boxy ^{talk • i} 08:45 28 June 2008 (BST)

Perma - I hate to say I told you so. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 12:28, 28 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Novascotia

(Novascotia | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

Destroying the suburb map by pasting a large chunk of SA's user page onto it and Barrville's danger report. This guy has quite a few priors as Zinker so I don't think this was a newbie mistake. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 23:51, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Alt of User:Z1nk666 -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 23:59, 26 June 2008 (BST)

God he's an idiot... however I don't know if we can describe it as bad faith. Why would someone do that on purpose? Is serial stupidity enough to qualify as vandalism -- boxy ^{talk • i} 09:25 28 June 2008 (BST)

<cough>Terminal Failure</cough> -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 14:43, 29 June 2008 (BST)

Ruling Plz -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 20:03, 30 June 2008 (BST)

Vandalism mainly for edit 2. Destroying SA's userpage. You dont touch other peoples userpages. The fact he didnt revert after such obvious destroying of two important information pages also doesnt count in his favour. Examining both accounts, between them he hasnt put on 250 edits since his last infraction. I believe, going by the system, we are now up to a month ban (with the last warning being retroactively upgraded to a week ban). Ill let someone else confirm this though. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 20:17, 30 June 2008 (BST)

I agree. It's not hard to revert once you see you've stuffed something up... and how can you miss that. Yes, the last warning should have been a week ban (after being transfered once that it was discovered as an alt), making this a month. I would also apply the ban to his multiple alts... perhaps some should be perma'ed. Their number is getting ridiculous really -- boxy ^{talk • i} 14:52 1 July 2008 (BST)

Banned for a month -- boxy ^{talk • i} 04:07 3 July 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Karloth_vois

(Karloth_vois | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

Posted a humourous suggestion in the main suggestions system in direct violation of suggestions rule 10 where such an action is defined as vandalism. He knew that going in. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 17:26, 26 June 2008 (BST)

What do you have against laughter, freedom and puppies? --Karloth Vois ^{DR ♣ GR} 17:28, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Nothing at all. I do have a problem with them being posted in the main suggestions system when the humourous suggestions page is clearly marked and has been provided for your spamtastic pleasure. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 17:31, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Grim rules this place with an Ir0n F1ST!!! Down with Big Brother Grimchy!!! I can't believe I voted for you! T_T --/~Rakuen~\^Talk 19:12, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Can we get a ruling here please? --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 09:54, 28 June 2008 (BST)

Warned -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:31 28 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:WOOT

(WOOT | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

lolwut --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 19:36, 25 June 2008 (BST)

Aw Cyberbob, you dick <.<

It seems pretty obvious I was deleting spam, if that is vandalism, then shit... Ah well...

We're still homies right Cyber? --/~Rakuen~\^Talk 02:15, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Not vandalism -- boxy ^{talk • i} 11:45 26 June 2008 (BST)

As Boxy, Not Vandalism. Should have gone on the talk page though rather than being completely deleted. Remember than in future okay? -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 12:16, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Okay... but... Why? It's not like someone is gonna respond to it... :/ --/~Rakuen~\^Talk 16:41, 26 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Nallan, User:J3D and User:Sexylegsread

(Nallan | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

(J3D | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

(Sexylegsread | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

Creating useless spam pages;

• Jed is a douchebag
• Nick Sucks
• Fuck off you shit head dick face LOL
• Read stay out of this and might your own fucking business, okay?
• Ok "J3D" you asked for it..

--Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 14:00, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Vandalism - All 3 warned. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 14:04, 24 June 2008 (BST)

In fact, Nallan gets a 24 hour ban and Read is on his final warning again with the possibility of a month ban. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 14:05, 24 June 2008 (BST)

They are in game groups. Not Vandalism.--J3D^SR! 14:09, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Ruling from non-sysop removed. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 14:20, 24 June 2008 (BST)

You do realise trying to rule on a case if you aren't a sysop is vandalism as well? And I seriously doubt that they are all groups. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 14:19, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Well, doubt is the decisive word in that statement.--MichaelRead^{Talk BBK! ALiM} 14:20, 24 June 2008 (BST)

There is a difference between a group and one you've just entered into your group field to attempt to avoid a warning on the wiki. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 14:24, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Lolz! You got me. haha--MichaelRead^{Talk BBK! ALiM} 15:44, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Hahaha! That last comment of read's caused me lulz.--J3D^SR! 09:49, 25 June 2008 (BST)

A triple banger! Well done, guys! DanceDanceRevolution 02:27, 26 June 2008 (BST)

*Sniff* I'm so proud... But seriously admin team - there needs to be some clear-cut guidelines to this sort of thing. I mean these could be legitimate groups in-game - you have no way to prove otherwise. Really it's kind of ridiculous just banning me and warning them over making a wiki page for a group which you don't think is real. Are you guys following me? I really am doing this for the betterment of the wiki, I assure you. Is this a loophole or what?--Nick??? 1 ^BBK 2 ^DB 3 ^{2C ALiM} 12:43, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Further discussion moved to talk page -- boxy ^{talk • i} 14:14 26 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:DOTTS DarkShade

(DOTTS DarkShade | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

One of the DOTTS fucking with their mortal enemies user page. Warned. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 00:52, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Is a confirmed alt of User:DOTSS DarkShade, User:Dotss spleens fury and User:Spleenhunter. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 01:15, 24 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Tselita

(Tselita | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data ) Removing a large [chunk] from another users post. I initially assumed good faith, but then I just looked up Tselita's previous warning on the exact same thing [here]. -- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - הפוסל במומו פוסל ^TMG 23:25, 23 June 2008 (BST)

WTF? I never removed a post from Haberdash! --Tselita 23:40, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Not in that diff. This one does show it better [1]. It does show you taking away a chunk of the post. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 23:49, 23 June 2008 (BST)

If I did then I definitely wasn't TRYING to. I don't remember doing anything like that. If I erased Haberdash's sig or whatever it was probably just an accident. I seriously don't remember doing anything of the sort, and wouldn't have done it on purpose if I did do it. --Tselita 23:51, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Well, that's what it shows you doing. But the looks of it, you've taken that second paragraph and worked it into your own. :/ Which could be classed as impersonation. I am however going to have another look at this, just in case I missed something. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 23:55, 23 June 2008 (BST)

wtf? Was I trying to quote him maybe and forgot the quotes? Or maybe I put my response in the wrong place? Whatever it was I was -not- trying to delete his posts. I don't remember doing ANY of this. I remember the suggestion and the comments but I didn't do what I'm being accused of here --Tselita 23:59, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Regardless, you did paraphrase Grim's post. True, it may be your talk page, but it's a user's signed post, and keeping that intact takes higher priority than your ownership of your own talk page. --Aeon17x 23:46, 23 June 2008 (BST)

The grim thing was already settled in a vandal thing, Geez! After that I decided to just delete his posts in total. What the heck is wrong with you people? --Tselita 23:49, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Oh, you were already penalized before about this? I just looked at the dates and thought you haven't had a vandal case yet. *facepalm* --Aeon17x 23:53, 23 June 2008 (BST)

I got a warning for that already, after which I said that I'd just delete his entire post on my user page instead of summarizing. --Tselita 23:54, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Better question, why is Gardenator bringing up something nearly three weeks ago just now? Seems like a retaliatory response. --Aeon17x 23:55, 23 June 2008 (BST)

More than likely. It always happens on here. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 00:00, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Because he knows that if I had done anything, it wasn't in bad faith and it wasn't until I made a vandal report against him for his most recent Mock-suggestion (based on the same reasoning as a vandal report that boxy made against Zaphod Beeblebrox for an equally vandallous mock-suggestion). Gardenator even states in his vandal report that that's what's motivating him to do this. Geez --Tselita 00:02, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Not Vandalism - I've had a second look. And it looks as though Tselita suffered a momentary loss of brain power and appeared to have cut and pasted the comment she was quoted instead of copy and pasting. At best it's a case of hitting the wrong combo on the keyboard. And worst, it means that you need to learn to read better. :/ I don't know. Either way, just a stupid mistake. Not vandalism. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 00:07, 24 June 2008 (BST)

That make a whole lot more sense than the idea that I was removing portions of his post, then just happening to past them into quotes which I respond to. And it would explain why I don't remember removing any parts of his posts if I had accidentally cut instead of copied. Gardenator, you call me pathetic but you are truly pathetic for having brought this up. And why are you googling the internet looking for web pages that have the word Tselita in it anyway? Are you that much of a loser with that much free time on your hands? --Tselita 00:12, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Yo Pot, what's up? Love, the kettle. -- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - הפוסל במומו פוסל ^TMG 00:23, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Ah did I misunderstand you making a suggestion post making fun of 4 of my suggestions at the same time? How about call some more people homosexual hate words when they delete the crap that you put up? Me going running to people for protection - hah. Pot calling kettle black indeed. At least my vandal post about you was based on something that was clearly NOT in good faith that you did. But seriously, if you claim your nailgun cleans whatever is real, put it to voting. If it doesn't get blasted as Spam for being in the wrong section when it should be in Humorous I'll drop the whole thing. In the meantime, if you really want me to do the same as you, have the guts to put -your- real name up so I can do a google search on you instead. Chicken? --Tselita 00:28, 24 June 2008 (BST)

I may have ruled Not Vandalism, but this is not the cue for this to descend into a free for all. Take it to your own talk pages please. Thank you. -- Cheese ^{WTF!RandomSysOp?} 00:30, 24 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Roxas1113

(Roxas1113 | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data ) [Numerous edits] to this page.--– Nubis 21:26, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Replaced the page with the original version pre edits and warned him.--– Nubis 21:29, 23 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Gardenator

(Gardenator | talk | contribs | logs1 | logs2 | block | IP Check | vndl data )

Bad faith trolling on suggestions talk page (among other pages). --Tselita 17:28, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Trolling and asshattery has never been considered vandalism, or a number of people, particularly sonny and cyberbob would have been banned long ago. Not to mention many of the players in Wikigate. Not Vandalism. Take it to Arbies. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 18:09, 23 June 2008 (BST)

As an additional note, id like to say that if you had acted like a reasonable person instead of playing the victim and acting like any disagreement with you was a full scale attack, they wouldnt have targetted you. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 18:12, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Hey if you feel it's a good use of space to have his mock suggestions cluttering up the talk:suggestion page..... I'm not considering it vandalism because of his rudeness. I'm considering it vandalism of the page because the more mock-suggestions he makes with no intention of bringing these humorous (yet unfunny) suggestions to a vote, the more he can cause the page to break.

I could also consider his posts Impersonation, since he keeps claiming to be a 'jewish girl on the internet' (basically claiming to be me, like me, etc etc' and quoting me as his 'good friend' when he's not claiming to be me. "This is my second version of my attempt to find a real use for all of the portable Nailguns my Dual-Nature Girl Survivor Character keeps finding in tinyurl links sprayed in UD. Additional use for a Nailgun to temporarily remove the darkness effect from dark buildings." - but I don't because, like you said, he's clearly just doing it to be a jerkface. --Tselita 18:16, 23 June 2008 (BST)

FYI, I am a Girl on the Internet. -- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - הפוסל במומו פוסל ^TMG 23:21, 23 June 2008 (BST)

No, you're a shmuck internet stalker with way too much time on your hands --Tselita 00:14, 24 June 2008 (BST)

If we could remove suggestions based on them not being a "good use of space" do you honestly think half of the suggestions on there would remain? If we removed suggestions based on size you would have to find another place to post. There is no rule on the TALK:SUGGESTIONS page that says anything about humorous suggestions. That is only on the actual suggestions page. Learn the difference. There are no real enforced restrictions on what you can post as a suggestion, even the Frequently Suggested list isn't a "rule" otherwise every person that posted a gun, car, or sniping would be warned for vandalism. Besides, I'd rather read those suggestions than another 20 for sniping, portable light sources, new guns, X Ray/Night Vision, and storage boxes.

Learn the definition of "wiki impersonation". By no stretch of the imagination is that impersonation. How do you know Gardenator is a guy? You keep saying "he". For all you know Gardenator could be a girl. That's a bit egotistical of you to think that you are the only Jewish girl on the internet and if Gardenator references one s/he must be talking about you. I think I see the problem.--– Nubis 19:07, 23 June 2008 (BST)

• 1) If a suggestion is being placed simply to troll another person, it shouldn't be going in there. He can just bring purely humorous-intent suggestions to the humorous suggestion board instead - that's why it's there... to prevent the talk:suggestions board from being overwhelmed to the breaking point with crap which the author has no intention of using. Talk:Suggestions is meant to test potential suggestions and work the kinks out of them, not for infantile flamebaiting slams. So totally not surprised that the first two Not vandalism votes came from you two guys. Did either of you notice I pretty much cut-and-pasted what was said about the Zaphod Beeblebrox thing below? Odd how you guys were absent on the 'Not vandalism' thing down there. Oh wait, not odd. Predictable
• 2) The problem is ... - Yknow what? Not even going to bother explaining to you why the second paragraph you wrote is chock full of "insanely stupid shmuck". Was going to, but it's a waste of my time. --Tselita 19:24, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Please cut and paste where I made any ruling on this case and get back to me. If you can't find it then FUCK OFF.--– Nubis 19:29, 23 June 2008 (BST)

I will re-state what I said then. Instead of saying So totally not surprised that the first two Not vandalism votes came from you two guys, I will instead say So totally not surprised that the first two people defending Gardenator's vandalism of the Talk:Suggestions page are you two guys.. Happy now? Is that more accurate for you? --Tselita 19:33, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Please cut and paste where I made any ruling on this case I can has bold now. --– Nubis 19:37, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Also, did you miss the whole post where it was discussed whether or not Zaphod was a sock puppet? That makes a difference on vandalism cases, but since you can't seem to grasp reading I won't try to explain.--– Nubis 19:37, 23 June 2008 (BST)

The more recent Zaphod Beeblebrox vandal case, not the first one. The one that's lower on this page. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning#User:Zaphod_Beeblebrox_2 - Where Boxy brought up the whole 'bad faith trolling on the suggestions page', which made me decide I should make a vandal report as well since Gardenator is doing the same, and both are vandalizations of the talk suggestion page. And you're telling me I can't read. Learn to read yourself. You can has bad grammar as well. How nice. --Tselita 21:40, 23 June 2008 (BST)

I'll try to explain: If Zaphod is a sock puppet then his suggestion/edits are clearly with the intent of trolling. (Socks exist to skew votes and/or troll) If he is a regular user maybe he's just an asshole. Gardenator is an asshole. That's why there is a difference. If there was a sock puppet account Tselita2 that only existed to vote and make crappy suggestions then that would be vandalism. Tselita (original account) voting and making crappy suggestions isn't. --– Nubis 02:51, 24 June 2008 (BST)

The difference between my suggestions and the faggot sockpuppet: my suggestion is an actual suggestion. It is remarkably similar to ones made by Tselita and Rothlessness. There are no calling of names or insults on my suggestion and I am not a sockpuppet. Tselita, you are pathetic for making this report. There were at least one that I could have made against you for doing your inane cutting and pasting of peoples posts and then omitting a section of it. So cry more about how the mean goons are after you, if I really wanted to, I could have made a real vandal report against you. Go and check it [here]. Maybe I should report you for removing those lines from haberdashes post. -- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - הפוסל במומו פוסל ^TMG 23:16, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Dude, Rosslessness actually contributes a lot to the wiki. Uncool dissing him.--– Nubis 02:51, 24 June 2008 (BST)

I wasn't dissing rosslessness. I was comparing the suggestions I made by pointing out that the ones made by Tselita and Rosslessness are very similar. I can't help it if Tselita's suggestions make ours look stupid too. -- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - הפוסל במומו פוסל ^TMG 02:55, 24 June 2008 (BST)

I heard no one dissing me. All seems in order. Carry on. --Rosslessness 20:56, 24 June 2008 (BST)

I never removed anything from any post haberdash made, wtf are you talking about? And to say that your suggestion is an actual suggestion is a laugh. If it's an actual suggestion, bring it to Voting. You made the damn suggestion, like you and DrPain made 2 others, just to poke fun at my suggestions. Several users have already called you on that. Drop dead you pathetic excuse for a human being. Go back to trying to stalk me in RL, talking about 'Rod' and whatever, freak. --Tselita 23:47, 23 June 2008 (BST)

"Please cut and paste where I made any ruling on this case" - You say this. I respond with this: "I will re-state what I said then. Instead of saying So totally not surprised that the first two Not vandalism votes came from you two guys, I will instead say So totally not surprised that the first two people defending Gardenator's vandalism of the Talk:Suggestions page are you two guys.. Happy now? Is that more accurate for you?" - would you like to repeat it a third time so I can repeat that a second time? --Tselita 21:45, 23 June 2008 (BST)

I almost miss Wikigate. At least back then the lines were clearly drawn, and there wasn't any of the pansy bullshit that goes on these days. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 18:33, 23 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:T13

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Undoing a shitload of my own and Whitehouse's work, as well as removing a load of ads and updates other people had put on the page. Newb error yes, but this user is not a newb and should be warned of such shit accordingly. Especially since as it's going to fall to me to fix this clusterfuck tomorrow. -- Iscariot ^{BB2 PK WTE} 00:12, 23 June 2008 (BST)

I'm afraid that n00bish errors arn't vandalism, Iscariot. As it says up above, "as much as is practical, assume good faith and try to iron out problems with other users one to one, only using this page as a last resort". Sorry that you have to go to the trouble of fixing that stuff up now, I know what a pain in the arse it must be. I will contact T13 and tell him not to do it again in the future though. Seems that he edited an old version of the page, reverting it to an earlier version -- boxy ^{talk • i} 07:37 23 June 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Suver

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Impersonation. -- Iscariot ^{BB2 PK WTE} 23:04, 21 June 2008 (BST)

Not vandalism. Their checkuser results show similar IP addies, and their user pages are very similar. Probably the same person with different accounts -- boxy ^{talk • i} 07:54 22 June 2008 (BST)

Probably? Fucking probably? We're working A/VD on "probably" now are we? Not even a check using a message to the original user's ID? Just a Not Vandalism because we can't be arsed? If that's the precedent being set you'd better hope a trenchie doesn't appear in my city so I can claim the 'similar IP' card. -- Iscariot ^{BB2 PK WTE} 00:15, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Iscariot, there are limits to how definite a result can be through check user. Both users are, as far as we can tell, the same person. It's Not Vandalism because we can't assume bad faith when dealing with users and everything points to it not being impersonation.--Karek^maps?! 01:54, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Have you two lost your minds? 1. You can't alter another poster's signed post. Period. See Below VVVV 2. If they are the same person (and I hardly think similar user pages and close IPs are convincing evidence - Especially not coming from you, Karek, since you tore Cheese a new one because he banned someone because the IPs were close and now you are letting someone off because the IPs are close?) then why didn't she log into the original account that she meant to use or log into that account to delete the comment? Or maybe post the sign so that it links to Account A but reads the name of Account B? There was no reason to change the sig like that from a different account except to impersonate. If you insist on the IP addys being enough evidence does that mean if I find a proxy that can spoof an IP close enough to someone else's I have free reign to alter any post they make as long as I steal the code for their user page? How retarded is that? Vandalism clearly.--– Nubis 02:22, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Newbies do this sort of thing quite often actually, without meaning to impersonate. They get the idea that they should have a wiki account for their different characters, and then forget which one they're logged in on, and sign with the other accounts name. I've contacted Standzs, asking what's going on. And no, this doesn't open up the ability for you to find someone's IP addy and impersonate them using similar proxies, because all it takes to show that you arn't that person is for them to tell us. If this edit had been something malicious, like changing the Standzs words to make him look foolish, then yeah, it'd be vandalism in a second, but due to the nature of the edit (simply changing the sig link) it looks very much like a newbie mistake -- boxy ^{talk • i} 07:26 23 June 2008 (BST)

Well, there are some issues with checkuser, there's also the point that the Zaphod case was because he banned a user for having a common IP with another user that was a known proxy. The way I see it more information is needed before an informed decision can truly be made, that means