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Done (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

The Malton Bounty Emo Killers page has been nearly enitrly wiped out, by someone called "Done", who has no profile.. The individual edits are still visable in the page's history. Help?!?

Nevermind! I found the previous version in the history!! Can I get the page protected, then? ShinobiSlider 01:47, 31 July 2007 (BST)

I don't think we need to protect the page (unless it becomes persistent). The user has been banned as a vandal account, all edits were related to the page wiping The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talkcontribs) at 01:56 31 July 2007 (BST)


Ihateniggers (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

For this and this, this, especially this, this one, and this, this one. --Amanu Jaku 07:01, 30 July 2007 (BST)

I sense ledzepplin has a sockpuppet. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n 07:02, 30 July 2007 (BST)
Or is grumpy with Boxy for a ruling. --Amanu Jaku 07:04, 30 July 2007 (BST)
Then why did he target me at first and then got mad when boxy reverted it? --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n 07:11, 30 July 2007 (BST)
I didn't realize he targeted you first. --Amanu Jaku 07:12, 30 July 2007 (BST)

He changed my page!?!?! What did I do? Izumi Orimoto 07:13, 30 July 2007 (BST)

NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n 07:15, 30 July 2007 (BST)

^^^^ ytmnd theif >.> Izumi Orimoto 07:16, 30 July 2007 (BST)

Surprisingly enough, Permabanned The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talkcontribs) at 07:22 Monday July 2007 (BST)

Also perm-banned:

The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talkcontribs) at 08:03 Monday July 2007 (BST)


Ledzepplin93 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Why me? --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n 03:50, 30 July 2007 (BST)

permaban to The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talkcontribs) at 07:26 Monday July 2007 (BST)

Lady Ragnarok

Lady Ragnarok (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

An alt account used by Izumi_Orimoto to get around her latest ban by updating her group page -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 04:10, 29 July 2007 (BST)

Have you already taken action or is this case still open?-- Vista  +1  23:09, 30 July 2007 (BST)
No, no action from me The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talkcontribs) at 01:57 31 July 2007 (BST)
Permabanned the alt account. Banned Izumi Orimoto for a week-- Vista  +1  14:29, 31 July 2007 (BST)
I've also banned her other accounts I could find: TheOneAndOnlyCry and Dirty Rockstar-- Vista  +1  14:57, 1 August 2007 (BST)


Crapmaster (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Edited the Irish Republican Army page, the user's only edit. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 22:24, 28 July 2007 (BST)

Warned The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talkcontribs) at 07:27 Monday July 2007 (BST)


Udplyr86 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

If its not vandalism, then its just absurdly ignorant editing. Its pretty stupid to yank an entire district's radio freq and devote it to defending people against Potter spoilers, if he is doing that. If he isn't, its a bad faith edit. And not one I have time to fix, either way. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Radio&diff=753766&oldid=751498 . . . swiers BigEYEwitnessLOGO.png 16:02, 28 July 2007 (BST)

Looks like newbie foolishness. I'll talk to him/her on their talk page -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 09:11, 28 July 2007 (BST)
The problem wasn't so much the dumb new assignement he put in, as the fact the he deleted the existing assignment, which was for use by an entire 5 suburb area. That's fixed now- I went back into the old pages, dug out the code for the old assignment, and put it into the new page. What a pain in the ass. . . . swiers BigEYEwitnessLOGO.png 16:02, 28 July 2007 (BST)
Opps, sorry. I thought my "undo" undid that as well. Oh well, yeah it's a pain in the arse, but ya get that. Still I don't think it was done in bad faith -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 04:17, 29 July 2007 (BST)
Probably not, it was rather to well constructed for vandalism. The thing is, there's parts of that page that just should not be edited without a vote, it seems. And any edit is really hard to undo once further edits have been done, because you can't just revert, and there is that huge text block. I'm gonna fix that last issue- why the FRAG there is no sub-sections, god only knows.
Hmm, how about some frequencies go in a template-type page, and THAT page gets edit protection??? __Swiers__BigEYEwitnessLOGO.png_ 06:09, 29 July 2007 (BST)
Sounds like the perfect solution -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 06:22, 29 July 2007 (BST)


Izumi Orimoto (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Izumi Orimoto has unfortunately chosen to repeatedly vandalize the Dulston Alliance wikipage sub-page known as the Black List. The user has claimed that their survivor, SweetHikari, is no longer a GKer and does not deserve to be on the organization's "hit list" anymore, as the crime for GKing in Alliance territories is death. Unfortunately, unlike the RG, criminals are not given bounties for their crimes, but rather are punished forever unless a plea is made to the Alliance to have the crime(s) expunged. So far that has yet to happen for SweetHikari.

Here is a chronological list of the group wikipage vandalism/tampering attempts:

  • The initial edit which caught my attention: Removal #1
  • That edit was undone along with my comment: "Please refer any requests to have someone removed from the Black List to the Alliance forum", but was followed by: Removal #2
  • That comment did not appear to work as the user proceeded to edit the wikipage again: Removal #3
  • At this time I chose to contact the user and explain the situation, as logic was the key to resolving this I felt: "Due Process"
  • The user denied the authority of the Alliance and edited the wikipage again: Removal #4
  • I undid the edit and replied to the user's post, trying to be reasonable, only to find the user had tampered yet again: Removal #5

Please warn this user that while his edits are not malicious, it is becoming a bother to spend the time watching over the wikipage just to undo the user's edits. As I posted in my comments to the user they have other options available to them other than vandalism. --Mobius187 July 27 2007, 5:53 PM (EST)

Firstly, I'm female. Get that straight. Secondly, SweetHikari is my alt and I refuse to remain on their blacklist. I have done nothing other than remove my own name, which to my knowledge is perfectly allowed. Someone tell this guy he's barking up the wrong tree. Izumi Orimoto 23:00, 27 July 2007 (BST)

Izumi, editing other groups' pages is not allowed, actually. If another group or user wants to post something about your character, that is their right as page owner. I believe the only hope you have of changing the situation is to appeal to Arbitration, if you don't want to go through that group's process to get off their list--Barbecue Barbecue 23:29, 27 July 2007 (BST)
Since this post Izumi has further vandalized the group's wikipage several more times, so many times, might I add, that it's no longer worth recording every vandalism attempt with links, but I would rather suggest that the Mods simply refer to the wikipage's history. I believe that these persistent edits are now fringing on "malicious behaviour" as the user insists they will not cease and desist. I find the whole situation like I'm dealing with a small child who won't take no for an answer. I would request that the Mod's deal with this user's flagrant disregard for Wiki rules in an appropriate manner. --Mobius187 July 27 2007, 6:44 PM (EST)
Anyone want to go get the DA and have an Arby's case or something? This is quite fun to watch, but alas! Like a new toy, you grow bored of it quickly. So, how 'bout it? We get the DA in here and discuss it like civilized people. Any takers?-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 23:55, 27 July 2007 (BST)
It should have been arbitration from the go, it's not bad faithed and not meant to be vandalism, it's just an edit conflict.--Karekmaps?! 00:01, 28 July 2007 (BST)

I'm willing to go through arbitration. All I want is my name off the damn list, I'm not trying to be "malicious" or cause problems! Arghhhhh!!! Izumi Orimoto 00:09, 28 July 2007 (BST)

So...Anyone other than me want to take this there, or am I going to have to lose my laziness award again?-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:11, 28 July 2007 (BST)
I would say more, but this is hardly the place. Please let me know when this case will be properly discussed and by whom. I will then prove what needs to be proven. --Mobius187 July 27 2007, 7:19 PM (EST)

Warned - This is not a simple edit conflict. The user is editing another groups page repeatedly despite being asked not to. If she wants off their list she has to negotiate with them, and they're under no obligation to oblige. It's their list. Hands off -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 01:55, 28 July 2007 (BST)

48hr ban - oops, didn't check the vandal data, 4th offence, 48hr ban -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 01:59, 28 July 2007 (BST)
Edit, that was a 48hr ban (went back and edited my last post from 24). Was in a real rush earlier. Sorry -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 07:06, 28 July 2007 (BST)


Loloool (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Classic vandalism, an account obviously created just for the purpose of causing trouble. Here's the proof:

I have since restored his edits. It seems he was just causing trouble for the sake of trouble. --Mobius187 July 27 2007, 7:59 AM (EST)

Permaban, no chance of ever becoming a constructive user -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 07:04, 28 July 2007 (BST)


Chill (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Well, this is a pointless bad faith edit of his Spammed suggestion. 'Assfucker' is a homophobic epithet and has no place on the wiki at all. Whilst I'm here, I'll list something else I would consider bad faith (although I have possible bias in judgement): he voted Kill on my suggestion after I told him how to edit on the wiki in the proper way. He also got his two friends (sockpuppets?) to vote Kill on the same suggestion. Purely vindictive votes are not good faith. But the first edit I point to is enough to be classified as a vandal IMO. 'arm. 01:05, 27 July 2007 (BST)

Warned, and Jigsaw (Jigsaw (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)) and Lock (Lock (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)) get a permaban -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 01:20, 27 July 2007 (BST)
Your warning didn't mention his 'assfucker' edit. Was that an oversight, or is that not quite over the line? 'arm. 01:35, 27 July 2007 (BST)
No, the warning was for zerging votes. I'm not going to start giving warnings for having a pottymouth (especially on a long dead suggestion page). If it becomes a persistent problem I'd consider it though -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 01:49, 27 July 2007 (BST)
I had a quick look, and couldn't see anything outlining rules on what is allowed, but I would put homophobic epithets in the same class as racist epithets. I genuinely don't want to start drama, but would you calling him a 'pottymouth' if he has used 'nigger' instead? 'arm. 02:10, 27 July 2007 (BST)
Ok I'd like to formally apologize to mister 'arm and to the wiki.This pretty much kills my reputation(even if I were to have one)and with that I will kill my suggestion-giving days and only vote.And sorry for the "Assfucker"comment too that was out of line,even if I was upset.I am not homophobic though(actually I am a liberal person)I was upset that you voted against my suggestion and in the heat of passion I said things and did things I regret.Again I hope I can be forgiven for the...things I have done.Also can I edit my talk page?Chill 03:42, 27 July 2007 (BST)
Yes, you can. It is your talk page after all, just don't impersonate and other stuffs like that.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 23:00, 27 July 2007 (BST)

The Dougler

The_Dougler (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Da feth? This fool went crazy on the Aardwolves page. Bat feth insane.--Lachryma 05:16, 25 July 2007 (BST)

Permaban, all contributions are vandalism -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 09:55, 25 July 2007 (BST)


Ucantseeme (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

User has been changing and deleting info on group page Infected Swarm Captain Grisum8:44, 23 July 2007 (EST)

Warned. But it doesn't give you the right to go wiping his talk page Captain -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 06:45, 24 July 2007 (BST)


BLooDCLotT (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Warned for vandalizing this. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 17:51, 22 July 2007 (BST)


Weird SOB deleted feth he didn't like or something on the Great Radio Messages page, several times, and then he messed with various things on the page, deleting some parts, and generally doing bad things. Or something.--Lachryma 07:43, 21 July 2007 (BST)

Not that im going to do anything, but i can honestly say the first one will not be missed. --Grim s-Mod U! 18:40, 21 July 2007 (BST)
actually, not vandalism. Most of the stuff he deleted werent funny at all to deserve a stay in there. You could move them to an archive page if you want it. I think that we could do a great use of something like bash for this kind of stuff. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 23:47, 21 July 2007 (BST)
I like to think that the radio page is for people to put whatever they want on it, and I also think humor is subjective, but I'm probably just tripping on 'shrooms.--Lachryma 00:51, 22 July 2007 (BST)
yeah, people can put anything in there... but anyone can simply go there and remote it if its not funny. If anything removed was later found funny, it can be put back. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 02:36, 22 July 2007 (BST)
Makes sense. Sorry for bothering you!--Lachryma 03:01, 22 July 2007 (BST)
Sometimes i have this feeling that you dont like me :( --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 17:51, 22 July 2007 (BST)
Then I'm not the only one tripping on 'shrooms, mister!  ;)--Lachryma 18:29, 22 July 2007 (BST)


Stinkycheese (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Vandal alt that is continually messing with The Wolf Pack, and their image -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 00:36, 21 July 2007 (BST)

Ahem... anyone? This edit, and uploading over their group image... a continuation of this guys work (and others in the archives) -- boxy T Nuts block it! DA 06:49, 24 July 2007 (BST)
Vandal alt banned.-- Vista  +1  16:40, 24 July 2007 (BST)

Barbecue Barbecue

Barbecue Barbecue (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Removed NPOV again here. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n 15:23, 19 July 2007 (BST)

Again, NPOV banner not required. The issue here is karek spamming suburb pages. --Barbecue Barbecue 15:25, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Apparently it is, along with the not group news section because both happen frequently in suburbs including the ones I added them to.--Karekmaps?! 15:33, 19 July 2007 (BST)

Not vandalism. And these revert wars must stop. As long as there is no uniform style guide interpretations of what should and should not remain on the page will differ. Severe reworks of page should be discussed on the talk page first. I've seen no indication that that has happened. Personal preference should not be unilatery enforced. first debate on the talk page what the changes should be before enacting them.-- Vista  +1  15:38, 19 July 2007 (BST)

Hang on, are my eyes working correctly? Did you just see that same thing being ruled not vandalism and then being reported a second time 3 minutes later? This is ridiculous.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:46, 19 July 2007 (BST)

It was reported before the ruling, and it's two separate pages.--Karekmaps?! 19:51, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Still, this is over the top.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:26, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Yeah, what should have been done was an addition to the other one. No need to slap a whole nother vandal report down when you could have done the same thing with a single line of words.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 20:32, 19 July 2007 (BST)

Barbecue Barbecue

Barbecue Barbecue (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Removed NPOV stuffs here several times. Suburb pages are supposed to be NPOV. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n 15:20, 19 July 2007 (BST)

Suburb pages are not required to have the banner. --Barbecue Barbecue 15:23, 19 July 2007 (BST)
No but they have to remain NPOV. The banner is there to help the unintelligent know to keep it NPOV. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n 15:25, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Well, this user doesn't want it. It's ugly and this is not generally a problem page. Ergo, karek's ramapge is pointeless. Also, how is deleting info about the # of hotels an NPOV fix? This is just griefing. --Barbecue Barbecue 15:28, 19 July 2007 (BST)
To top that off he is following me around reverting my edits on other pages, some just so he can do it himself for whatever reason. Also might I add yyou may wish to learn terminology before using it.Karekmaps?! 15:30, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Nobody asked if Barbecue Barbecue wanted. In fact nobody honestly gives a shit what Barbecue Barbecue wants. This is how it goes. Suburbs are NPOV. If people have a hard time understanding what that means, which seems to always be the case, you put up the template. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n 15:31, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Sonny, the wiki is a community. We all contribute our part to shaping it and keeping it alive. Regarding the template, there is no vandalism or error in not liking it and not wanting it, and if a page historically has not seen a great deal of NPOV issues, there's no reason to add it until it does. --Barbecue Barbecue 15:35, 19 July 2007 (BST)
The suburb under question has, and from what I can tell a large portion of them are from you.--Karekmaps?! 15:36, 19 July 2007 (BST)

Not vandalism. And these revert wars must stop. As long as there is no uniform style guide interpretations of what should and should not remain on the page will differ. Severe reworks of page should be discussed on the talk page first. I've seen no indication that that has happened. Personal preference should not be unilatery enforced. first debate on the talk page what the changes should be before enacting them.-- Vista  +1  15:38, 19 July 2007 (BST)

I beg to differ. During the DORIS war in Grigg Heights we found out that the page was overran with POV speeches. Xoid and Gage removed all POV speeches and made it NPOV. Several people were warned from the NQSI for creating an edit war to keep POV stuff there. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n 15:40, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Sonny, most of the current dispute has nothing to do with NPOV content itself, but that bloody template being imposed, and information like hotel counts being cut from the suburb's description--in short, a wholesale set of changes that have nothing to do with cutting actual NPOV content. It's restyling the page without discussion, the imposition of another's will on the community, on a page that has not been the subject of dispute for some time. --Barbecue Barbecue 15:45, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Then don't undo the whole edit and just add the hotel numbers stuff back on. No one cares about the hotels numbers and I only removed that stuff because it was overcrowding the page. That was the only change I can think of that I did that didn't have to do with NPOV.--Karekmaps?! 15:48, 19 July 2007 (BST)
The removal of listed revive points can also be contentious. But this is all a conversation that should take on the talk page there. And not here. Instead of reverting each other discuss the wanted changes.-- Vista  +1  15:52, 19 July 2007 (BST)
Good thing I didn't remove revive points that were listed as revive points.--Karekmaps?! 15:58, 19 July 2007 (BST)
No you removed explanatory text. Whoop de do. Don't play word games. You, Barbecue Barbecue and Sonny all are wasting my time with a childish edit war where nobody took the trouble to try and communicate. Karek If your edits fall badly with a regular editor of the page talk to him instead of stubbornly reverting each other. And that goes for Barbecue Barbecue as well. I don't like being forced to be the judge in an internet dick measuring contest. Next time take it to the relevent talkpage instead of starting an revert competition-- Vista  +1  16:11, 19 July 2007 (BST)


MKN (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Wiped the 101st Airborne's group page, and their recruitment add. Said pages: This and this. Only contributions to the wiki were those. Edits have been undone.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 01:06, 19 July 2007 (BST)

There's something weird going on over there. Some internal problems maybe. The account shares an IP with the group member Kyleklbecka So I'll perma ban the MKN account. I'll leave a message on the 101st Airborne's talk page and one on Kyleklbecka's talk page as well asking to explain what's happening-- Vista  +1  01:39, 19 July 2007 (BST)

I am sorry, I do not know what happened but I will be fully complient.

This computer is not mine, it is public and a lot of people play urbandead where we take turns, I know that some people do not like the 101st. I will ask them. But I will say that this will never happen again. Kyleklbecka

Retrieved from "http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:Kyleklbecka"


DoctorRevive (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

For this edit and the following one. A newbie reverted the changes but probably didn't know about this page. I'm messaging him. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 16:20, 17 July 2007 (BST)

Vandalism. I think a warning is in order.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 16:56, 17 July 2007 (BST)
Ok, but next time warn him yourself, as I have this baaad feeling that I shouldn't be the reporting and ruling Sysop at the same time =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 02:42, 18 July 2007 (BST)


Montana8 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

I just noticed his vandalism of the Ruddlebank talk page in these two edits. This guy is a prat, he's had his warnings now please ban him. 'arm. 04:27, 16 July 2007 (BST)

He's also had his first ban already. So this time he gets a 48 hours one.-- Vista  +1  04:38, 16 July 2007 (BST)
And somebody should check his history to sift out all the mistakes he made. He created some articles for a lexicon outside the correct namespace, and he seems to have created a link to his user page in the main namespace as well. I'd go trawling for all the stupid edits he made but I have to run now.-- Vista  +1  04:49, 16 July 2007 (BST)
I'm on it.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 19:48, 16 July 2007 (BST)
My handiwork.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:29, 16 July 2007 (BST)


Sexylegsread (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

For creating Finis, and making it clear he has no intention of changing -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 12:58, 14 July 2007 (BST)

Aren't they RL life friends? I'm reluctant to warn a guy that is just joking with his school partner, but Finis could ask otherwise if he feels insulted and/or I'm wrong about the RL life friends thing. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 18:27, 14 July 2007 (BST)
He was referring to this guy as his school partner, not to me. My RL friends are all above 20 and have a three-digit IQ.--Finis Valorum 19:24, 14 July 2007 (BST)
Bullshit. He was not refering to a Gore Corps member. He was refering specifically to Finis. --User:Axe27/Sig 19:31, 14 July 2007 (BST)
I think we've got a confusion here. Some user warned him about editing a user page and he replied the following.--Finis Valorum 19:38, 14 July 2007 (BST)
Allright, my mystake about the friends thing then. Sexylegsread Warned. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 20:10, 14 July 2007 (BST)

more than fair enough. im new to wiki and did this early yesterday afternoon (i live in australia) and at the time didnt know how to remove it. then forgot it was there in the first place. i dont like him, so i can see why you would take it as serious and i understand its a warning. also, this whole thing with boxy on his page..i think a few times i came on and apologized..if you look at what ive written, all ive said is how i agree with what he says. i didn't think it would blow out like this. so yeah. oh and also, i think banning me and gomerpyle from editing on Finis page was a bit too much. Why ban our retaliation, when he continues to antagonize. now he is just antagonizing more, and using your banning as a shield. most of this was just us two standing up for ourselves, to a guy who says he is over twenty, yet constantly harasses a bunch of people he discards as "retards" and "kiddies".

i now understand the basic rules of this page. but just letting you know, that in banning us from talking on his page, you have simply made him more arrogant, and antagonistic. It is fair to stop people from talking if you feel the need be, but it is not fair to let someone like that hide behind you, yet still continue to try and cause shit. thats a low blow and i believe it is not in the spirit of UD at all.

i accept the reason for this warning and i understand it.

but i dont understand blocking me from the right to defend myself.--Sexylegsread 03:53, 15 July 2007 (BST)

i seem to be able to edit there now, so i apologize for anything ive said that may have seen offensive. i cop the ban. --Sexylegsread 07:44, 15 July 2007 (BST)


Robinxe (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Right, bear with me as this is the first time I make a vandal report ok Robinxe vantalised the News page of the urbandead wiki by adding irrelevant spam to old news. Namely the news of july 9th.

here is the history link thingy http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Whittenside&diff=731450&oldid=729216

here is the page as it currently appears http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Whittenside

yep, I'll leave it for you to sort things out The man 21:24, 13 July 2007 (BST)

I'll have a word, but not vandalism unless it keeps happening -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 09:13, 14 July 2007 (BST)
ok, I was just doing what the guidelines said I should do :P The man 09:16, 14 July 2007 (BST)


Nilin (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Page in question. I think he was trying to figure out how to remove it from his talk page, seeing as how he then proceeded to wipe his talk page.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 03:05, 13 July 2007 (BST)

Undid the edits. This has happened twice,TWICE, in one day. The template needs to be protected, "friendler Appearances" be damned. --User:Axe27/Sig 03:07, 13 July 2007 (BST)
I'm inclined to think that twice in a day vs. never in its lifetime is too much of a coincidence for this template that was mistakenly edited by a newbie only once before today. Anyways, only three times the template has been mistakingly blanked and you're already screaming for the template to be protected? I'll leave the VB case to be ruled by one of my coleagues tough, as I don't like neither think it's dessirable for me to rule over cases when I have personal concerns about them. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:30, 13 July 2007 (BST)
Not vandalism. I'm ruling on the safe side as they seem geniune new editors. I did protect the page as a potentional vandalism target. The template itself is on so many pages now that it is not more then prudent.-- Vista  +1  09:43, 13 July 2007 (BST)

This is why the newbies were editing the template rather than their talk pages. When you put a header in a template, editing that section on the talk page means you edit the template rather than the talk page. Should be fixed now, we can probably unprotect it -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 09:01, 14 July 2007 (BST)

Tony Darkgrave

Tony Darkgrave (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Vandalism Nuked the page. Didn't see anything about Nyrwind wanting him to, so I assume it's vandalism.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:27, 13 July 2007 (BST)

They're both in the same group -Newgrounds. Don't know if that means anything. --  T   01:30, 13 July 2007 (BST)
It probably does. Until more info comes out I'm ruling it as not vandalism.-- Vista  +1  09:47, 13 July 2007 (BST)


Italus (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Tried to remove the welcomenewbie template. I really think it's just a misunderstanding on his part, but give him a warning none the less. --User:Axe27/Sig 00:13, 13 July 2007 (BST)

Not vandalism. I'm ruling on the safe side as they seem geniune new editors. I did protect the page as a potentional vandalism target. The template itself is on so many pages now that it is not more then prudent.-- Vista  +1  09:44, 13 July 2007 (BST)
.... damn. Sorry, I didn't mean to cause anyone any harm. The way you set it up, though, is really easy for an idiotic nub like myself to wipe out the page itself ^^' Italus 22:56, 16 July 2007 (BST)
It was. We've found out what the cause was. It was a new adition to the template that didn't work out as planned. We've since adressed the problem. No harm done.-- Vista  +1  13:03, 17 July 2007 (BST)


Kamong (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

vandalized Caiger Mall page. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS Hunt! 18:02, 12 July 2007 (BST)

Glad to see we have tons o' mods to deal with this...where's the Wiki Monitors when you need them? --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS Hunt! 18:50, 12 July 2007 (BST)
Djeez, you take a five minute break doing other stuff... It's not like it's a rush case. Anyway, Warned.-- Vista  +1  18:54, 12 July 2007 (BST)
More mods=bad. It'd be a Mod Conspiracy.--Lachryma 19:04, 12 July 2007 (BST)
It was a joke. I was taking potshots at the monitors. What ever happened to them anyway?...I don't even remember who was in it. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS Hunt! 19:46, 12 July 2007 (BST)
probably became mods themselves...-- Vista  +1  19:57, 12 July 2007 (BST)
Actually, Matt did start that, and he's a mod now. The Wiki Monitors Monitors and etc. were all mods at the time too, as I recall.--Lachryma 00:25, 13 July 2007 (BST)


Heiki (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Edited a group page without permission.--Lovendal 11:52, 12 July 2007 (BST)

Are you kidding me? You don't have permission either and aren't listed as the group leader or a group member, since when do people need permission to edit something in a way that isn't vandalism?--karek 11:57, 12 July 2007 (BST)
Hello, Karek. I'm not kidding.--Lovendal 12:01, 12 July 2007 (BST)
Obviously someone's a little pissy due to a recent vandalism ruling.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 12:03, 12 July 2007 (BST)
Let's just stick to the subject.It would be much easier--Lovendal 13:51, 12 July 2007 (BST)
I was merely editing some vulgar language directed at my group. No one needs that kind of language on the wiki. All I want is for people to start calling the Gore Corps by our real name, and not some disgusting nickname concocted by some spiteful fool --Heiki 22:08, 12 July 2007 (AEST)
You were not a member of the group and did not have permission from SR to edit our group page.--Lovendal 13:51, 12 July 2007 (BST)
While I see your position Heiki, the rules here are that name calling is permitted, and editing of content of group pages by non members is not. But because this idiocy between your two groups is not something I want to see escalate I'm ruling it an good faith edit as you were trying to improve the wiki and not knowing the rules in question. This will serve as an unofficial warning. And it's the last time I'm this friendly to any of your two groups. Not vandalism-- Vista  +1  14:32, 12 July 2007 (BST)
Ouch, I was about to make the same ruling when you edited conflict me Vista! Anyways, I wanted to add that this is not the place to make snide remarks or carry on with personal vendettas, so please save us the trouble of having to delete your comments in the future guys. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 14:52, 12 July 2007 (BST)
Isn't there a rule that certain parts of the page have to be NPOV? I was yelled at a ways back for saying my group, The Stanbury Renegades, was killing off The Many, when the Many weren't there. Thus I had to take it down. In fact on my other page Ridleybank Reclamation Forces I had to state the page was POV. I had to state that since it was a page made to mock trenchcoater groups that it was POV and used as humor. Since Mr. Lovendal is mocking the Gore Corps he would either have to state it is POV, and thus biased, or claim the group is fake and humorous, which either way would be POV. He could do that or remove the mocking. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS Hunt! 16:29, 12 July 2007 (BST)
Group pages are concidered POV automatically nowadays. Way back in the in the past, NPOV lead-in like this one at the Crossman Defense Force have been mandated by arbitration to correct factual misinformation. Although the practise has fallen into disuse. (Mainly because their have been less misinformation about other groups.) Arbitration may also be used to try to get mocking out of pages. But the track record is mixed as best as it is allowed under the rules and the opinion of the arbitrator matters a lot. It usually creates more drama then it is worth. Either way simply editing out things you don't like on other peoples page is against the rules. Arbitration may be a solution in this case as long as everybody behaves themselves. This has created enough idiocy as it is. If arbitration is percieved as a solution Í would gladly help to get this all as fastly resolved as possible.-- Vista  +1  16:47, 12 July 2007 (BST)

Thank you for your decision. I'll try to keep my nose clean. But I am still unimpressed with my group and I being called 'Whores'. Surely, even though they are technically allowed to call us that, you can understand where we come from. We do not wish to be called that, and I am sure that Arbitration wouldn't work all that well. I'll talk it over with my fellow Strike Team members. --Heiki 21:43, 13 July 2007 (AEST)


Belome (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
He did this bad faith edit of a user page. 'arm. 05:16, 11 July 2007 (BST)

Warned, cutting stuff -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 09:22, 11 July 2007 (BST)


Cyberbob240 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Jesus fucking christ. adding {{Template:Welcomenewbiefollowup}} to the talkpages of users who had their {{Template:Welcomenewbie}} placed there by matthew. list of edits involved. Yadda yadda, playing out a vendetta over new users their back in a way that only can be described as bad faith.-- Vista  +1  16:04, 10 July 2007 (BST)

Vendetta? Bad faith? Why are you using these hurtful terms to describe an endeavour which is only intended to show the impressionable newbies of the wiki the truth? If you truly have a grievance against my doings, I suggest you take it up in Arbitration - for vandalism this is not. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 16:14, 10 July 2007 (BST)

Warned, for spamming newbie pages with unhelpful information -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 16:20, 10 July 2007 (BST)

How is warning them of the true motives behind Matt's actions being unhelpful? --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 16:23, 10 July 2007 (BST)
Are you fucking serious? Are you that dense? You don't go spamming up dozens of users'talkpages because you have a problem with the person placing the welcome newbie template there. Those templates are there to welcome new users. half a dozen users place them on newbie talkpages. That happens because we want those newbies to both feel welcome and give them a little info on editting. What the reason is why a user places them is immaterial. Matthew could do it because he wanted to become the supreme leader of the wiki, as those templates are placed it's irrelevant. You'd still be spamming talkpages.-- Vista  +1  16:34, 10 July 2007 (BST)
And if they don't want the template on their page? It's quite a beast, after all... who's to say that Matt isn't the spammer in all of this? I'm offering them information which is just as helpful as what he's giving - and in less of a monstrous form to boot. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 16:39, 10 July 2007 (BST)
==> take it up here -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 16:45, 10 July 2007 (BST)
That wasn't actually my main point, you know. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 16:46, 10 July 2007 (BST)

HAY GUYS, SAVE SOME DRAMA FOR ME u_u --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 00:48, 11 July 2007 (BST)

Mold and Goolina

Mold (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) and Goolina (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

I have made it very clear to user Mold that he and his group must refrain from editing our group talk page due to their constant trolling. Nevertheless, they continue inserting flame baits on the SR talk page. As I would never go as far as to deem user Mold and his group illiterates or unable to grasp the meaning of my request, I can only conclude they deliberately continued their series of bad faith contributions, thus engaging in vandalism.--Lovendal 13:56, 10 July 2007 (BST)

I get so fucking tired from these reports. What little faith I have remaining in in humanity always dies little by little when I'm forced to read this sort of crap. I need a wiki-vacation. Not vandalism, It's a talkpage, and it's also hard to expect Goolina to stop posting if you warned Mold. Btw. Such a warning make we want to permaban each and every user who does it. Just delete the content. I'll have the same talk with them as I did with seloth when he annoyed Jorm, which they'll probably tread with just as much respect. Afterwards you can go to arbitration to get them off your page if you want to create an even larger shitstorm. With will end up with the same result if everybody just could pretend to have outgrown puberty and ignored each other from the start. And next phase can better be handled by somebody else, because I'll start perma banning each and every one of you.-- Vista  +1  14:51, 10 July 2007 (BST)
And done.-- Vista  +1  15:04, 10 July 2007 (BST)
Hello, Vista. The reason I made this report was the fact I somehow stumbled upon this definition of vandalism: "an edit not made in a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki". Quite generally indeed and leading to interpretation but I then I read the following: "When we claim that a group has ownership of a page, this does not automatically mean that any edit made that they don't like is considered vandalism. When assessing cases, the important question is one of intent, not action. As such, vandalism is rarely considered definitive when it is only a single action." I'm sure we all agree that the two editors knowingly intended a blatant disregard of my request and were seeking only to seed further instigations. Their edits are cleary bad faith attempts and are not improving this wiki in any way. Furthermore, they showed no sign of intending to cease. That is the reason I deemed their action vandalism. Also, your comment regarding the supposedly unwarranted report of Goolina is rather confusing and curious. Surely you must have noticed that, while the warning was placed on Mold's talk page (I considered posting him on his group talk page will be interpreted as a needless flame bait), the message was adressed to all the members of his group. However, if you do not consider this vandalism, I will assure I will respect your decision and I will simply undo their contributions on the said page as many times as will be necessary. And since you suggest arbitration is basically a bad idea, I will make no further steps in that direction. Thank you for your understanding.--Lovendal 15:34, 10 July 2007 (BST)
It seems to me that it's not exactly in good faith to call a group "Bitch Corpse" on your page and then demand that they not respond in any way. Perhaps you should consider a "good faith edit" and simply refer to them as "Gore Corps." As it is, you're talking trash to the Gore Corps and insisting that they not respond. I suggest that at least some of this would simply go away if you abandoned the schoolyard name-calling.--Kali Magdalene 00:03, 11 July 2007 (BST)
You posted to molds talk page telling them not to post to yours. Mold posted to your talk page telling you not to post to theirs. You told Gooina nothing. Not Vandalism. Get over it. Put a notice on your talk page if you don't want to hear from them. If they continue, just delete the posts outright. If they persist take them to A/A. Talk page are there so people can contact you. Show a bit of effort to ignore people who annoy you before coming running here -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 15:48, 10 July 2007 (BST)
Two things, Boxy. The first is that Vista had already ruled on this case, making yours redundant. The second is that Lovendal said in his comment (did you read it?) that he was accepting the decision - again making your comment irrelevant. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 15:52, 10 July 2007 (BST)
woohoo! wiki drama! lol The man 11:42, 26 July 2007 (BST)


Gage (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Despite not being a moderator, he moved a speedy deletion request that Vista stated was not to be voted on, and was only remaining on the Speedy Deletions page awaiting another sysop's input. Despite this sysop's ruling that there was not going to be a vote on this, Gage not only moved it to the Deletions page to vote on it but moved all of the accompanying text to the talk page and modified the text to have the heading: "QUIT FEEDING THE DAMN DRAMA LLAMA". This means that he not only did something against a sysop's implicit instructions, but also modified people's posts in a derogatory way. He has a history of abuse against me in the past, and I'd like him to be punished for his non-sanctioned actions and his edits reverted. --Akule Akule News. 06:40, 10 July 2007 (BST)

Not Vandalism - The guidelines are clearly outlined on the page one does not need to be a admin to move requests with keep votes. This could and should have been done by the first keeper. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 08:01, 10 July 2007 (BST)
Not Vandalism - the amount of drama made moving it prudent.-- Vista  +1  09:16, 10 July 2007 (BST)
Not Vandalism, Impersonation. He was within his rights to move it, but editing the title qualifies as impersonation.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 11:15, 12 July 2007 (BST)


BoboTalkClown (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

What he did. Not a very nice thing to do, is it? I guess he got mad because his suggestions were shot down, or something. That, or he just doesn't like Republicans.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 01:18, 9 July 2007 (BST)

He would have gotten a nice unofficial warning at his talk page telling him to place messages for another users on their talk pages if not for the blatant bad faith of his comment itself. Warned. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 01:54, 9

July 2007 (BST) Nahh... I'm just a hardcore liberal. Don't even know the guy. VOTE OBAMA! I'll refrain from further vandalism. BoboTalkClown 00:18, 10 July 2007 (BST)


Bad faith edit, Insulting, baiting, impersonation. Take your pick, not the first time and he did it to a comment I made in response to him having done the exact same bad faith crap on the Suburb Map page. The second one is obviously meant as an insult and baiting, along with changing what I said. The second on at the very least is most assuredly bad faith even going so far as to change what I said.--karek 06:49, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Spell checking is by definition not bad faith. Impersonation is about changing the meaning of a comment left by another user. I will have a talk with him about his use of italics. But Karek? grow up. vandal banning is not for escalations or for revenge for perceived insults.-- Vista  +1  14:07, 8 July 2007 (BST)
The issue wasn't the spell checking and you know it.--karek 19:51, 8 July 2007 (BST)
No, the issue was that you thought he was acting like an annoying ass and you ran towards the sysops so you could have him slapped down on a technicality. Vandal banning is not to be used for that sort of stuff.-- Vista  +1  23:41, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Da Grif


Either a Vandal, or an idiot. Both are crimes. 'arm. 00:15, 8 July 2007 (BST)

Being an idiot isn't a crime (in these circumstances), sorry -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 00:41, 8 July 2007 (BST)



I thought I reported this already, but apparently not. Anyway he purposely falsely reported numbers outside of Fort Creedy on it's page. There most definitely are not 55,000 humans and 17,000 zombies.--karek 10:56, 7 July 2007 (BST)

I'm not inclined to officially warn him for a bit of "high jinks" (perhaps someone else is), but I'll tell him not to do it again -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 00:43, 8 July 2007 (BST)
That's all I ask.--karek 01:31, 8 July 2007 (BST)


Madkid (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Edited 1 sentence of an user page. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:Danson_Tapiro&diff=726258&oldid=516479 Pretty funny, eh? --JudeMaverick Talk +1 Jobs 09:10, 7 July 2007 (BST)

Warned -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 10:47, 7 July 2007 (BST)


[1] changed my comment as seen above. impersonation.--'BPTmz 06:28, 7 July 2007 (BST) and again.[2] three strikes hes out?[3]

extended talks moved to talk page.--'BPTmz 07:27, 7 July 2007 (BST)

BP has continually deleted my posts since my very first week playing this game, for nearly a month. Despite so many pleas, he has continually harrassed me and obfusicated the truth on the Ketchelbank page. He reported me previously on another page, and his report was scoffed at. Since then, he has continued to harrass me. When he removed my most recent post (which he has deleted 4 or 5 times now), he stated that he did it because it contained NPOV. Therefor, I edited the NPOV out of both mine and his posts for June 6th to bring the wiki up to standard. Reading his own screenshots shows you that his second sentence was NPOV. How can he be allowed to harrass new players and CONSTANTLY remove their posts? It is obscene that I have been harrassed for a month, and yet I am being reported for a second time (after his first report, once again, was not taken seriously). I'm not aware of all of the correct venues to file a report or to ask for arbitration/protection against a harrassing player (this, due to working 70 hours a week without days off in the summer), but can some moderator please put this to rest and get BP to stop harrassing me. When I read through the history of the Ketchelbank page, I became aware that I was not the first person BP deleted posts from/harrassed about the danger levels of Ketchelbank. I'm not sure why his interactions have gone unchecked for so long, but I'd love to play the game without dealing with his harrassment. Thanks.--Donathin 06:56, 7 July 2007 (BST)

You're both being jerks. Stop bloody stalking each others posts to the page. Let readers of the wiki make up their own mind about who to believe when someone says it's safe or very dangerous. Donathin, did you even check what it was that BP kept restoring, or just keep hitting the rollback button? Each time you took out the whole suburb map, and a heap of the old suburb news. WTF? Pair of tools. You get a warning for repeatedly taking out the suburb map -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 07:42, 7 July 2007 (BST)

If you are looking for arbitration you can go here. And Boxy is right, it's both of you doing it. --karek 09:27, 7 July 2007 (BST)
I know it is both of us. I'm sorry for being baited into fighting with him - I know a wiki is not supposed to be the place for that. His attitude and bullying since my start here just really got to me after a while. As far as the suburb map - I'm sorry. If I took it out, it was purely accident... I have no idea how I managed to do that - I was just attempting to re-post what I had written (and what he had continually removed). It wasn't vandalism, though, it was an accident due to me not knowing that what I was doing was messing with the suburb map. As I said, I'm sorry - but this guy just really has gotten under my skin with his harrassment. If he leaves me alone, there'll never be a problem. If he doesn't, I'll attempt to go to moderation instead of arguing.--Donathin 13:43, 7 July 2007 (BST)

My Little Bitch

My Little Bitch (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

P-band -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 12:07, 6 July 2007 (BST)


Esveyecheka (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

All his edits seem to be removing the content posted by, or having a go at Whipstitch, or similar lameness -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 02:35, 6 July 2007 (BST)

As much as I'd like to warn them it seems a ban is in order for zero good faith. Anyone? going once. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 03:05, 6 July 2007 (BST)
Do it. No one ruins my zombie page. --Sonny Corleone RRF CoL DORIS Hunt! 03:07, 6 July 2007 (BST)
banned --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 03:25, 6 July 2007 (BST)


Reader_Eater (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Quartly griefer whose edit to the Quartly Library wiki page is clearly not in good faith. --Goolina Gore Corps 11:14, 2 July 2007 (BST)

If it's an announcement that the Library was emptied of survivors, then it seems like a little humour that I think the QSG would appreciate. If it's just an insult, well, perhaps he needs a quiet word rather than a warning. He is new -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 11:36, 2 July 2007 (BST)
both Goolina and I have alts in the QSG, we don't appreciate this, or find it amusing in any way.--Ropponmatsu 11:57, 2 July 2007 (BST)
So what is the status of the building? Has it been emptied of harmanz lately? -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 12:08, 2 July 2007 (BST)
No, it hasn't. There are still Quartly Librarians in there, including Sir Fred. Proof --Goolina Gore Corps 12:24, 2 July 2007 (BST)

I'll have a quiet word with him then, and revert the edit -- boxy T Nuts2U DA 12:33, 2 July 2007 (BST)


Might I point out that he's changed the Lockettside news to include a slanderous, anti-Valkyrie post? The Lockettside page is supposed to be neutral, and falsely accusing several people is hardly 'neutral'... --Oliver Sykes 17:46, August 15th 2007

Cut a section out of the Lockettside Valkyries page. --User:Axe27/Sig 22:34, 30 June 2007 (BST)

Probably good faith. He seems to have removed a member profile, and his previous edits make it seem he himself is either a member or associated with the group. Until further information crops up to the contrary I'm not considering it vandalism.-- Vista  +1  23:08, 30 June 2007 (BST)
I can vouch for the change. He was a member till afew days ago.--Dragon fang 23:10, 1 July 2007 (BST)

Sock Puppet

Sock Puppet (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Edited another user's page...trice. Check his contribs. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:36, 30 June 2007 (BST)

Permabanned as a vandal sockpuppet-- Vista  +1  21:47, 30 June 2007 (BST)


KaIamord (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

This character was obviously created to impersonate me on the Umbrella wiki. Needless to say, the account should be banned. Here is just one edit he made that complicates matters and doesn't help the group page. (He removed parts of the forum URL so the link wouldn't work).

This report is more about the imposter than vandalism, but I didn't know of a better place to post this than here. I don't want other users believing that the imposter is me, so something needs to be done. - Kalamord 03:43, 30 June 2007 (BST)

boom! evil clone is a gooner! --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 03:51, 30 June 2007 (BST)
and carefull with the way you add headers :P --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 03:52, 30 June 2007 (BST)
Thanks, I appreciate the help. Thanks for fixing the header too, as I thought it didn't look right but didn't want to mess it up any further. - Kalamord 06:21, 30 June 2007 (BST)
btw, check user tells me that your evil clone is in fact Saria231. Do you want me to warn him ? I'm leaving you that choise because i'm sleepy and lazy right now and you prolly will just answer this tomorrow when i am well rested :) Or, if another mod wants to, they can warn the guy anyway, Have a nice day, citizen. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 04:47, 1 July 2007 (BST)
Saria231 Warned. Sockpuppet Nº 2 Borkeyvonshnauzer Permabanned. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:56, 1 July 2007 (BST)