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August 2010


The3pwv (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Named himself after the three-page wiki vandal. Good enough? Checkuser also confirms him as Stale 2000. No evidence of vandalism, but calling himself 3pwv meant I had to at least launch a case here.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:16, 28 August 2010 (BST)

Some of the previous cases...Gimme a second to find even more...I swear, if this guy is really the return of 3pwv, it's gonna be hell on this wiki. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:30, 28 August 2010 (BST)
Hardly. he came back for a bit last year. -- LEMON #1 12:17, 29 August 2010 (BST)
Another one... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:33, 28 August 2010 (BST)
That's enough for now...I'll find more 3pwv cases when this guy actually does do a little vandalizing... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:36, 28 August 2010 (BST)

Honestly, I'm inclined to permaban, personally. I think Xoid had it right in one of those old cases when he said it's either impersonation or a vandal account, neither of which is permitted. That his banning was later rescinded because he claimed to be someone else just happening to use the same name (seriously, what sort of "evidence" is that?) doesn't hold water with me. Definitely need to get other thoughts on this, and there's no rush so long as he's not actually vandalizing. Aichon 05:06, 30 August 2010 (BST)

If it ain't vandalising, it ain't a problem, but I'm pretty indifferent. -- LEMON #1 06:21, 30 August 2010 (BST)

He's gone, and doesn't appear to be coming back. I say we close the case as Not Vandalism for now, pending his return.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 11:05, 31 August 2010 (BST)

Axe Hack (2)

Axe Hack (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Requested here.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 19:17, 25 August 2010 (BST)

Axe Hack has requested an increase to a temporary permaban until further notice via email.
Axe Hack said:
The hacker did a number on my PC, so I've already emailed Ross to up the requested banning to a perma until I can get my PC fixed up and purged.

--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 09:47, 26 August 2010 (BST)

I can confirm I've received said email. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:59, 26 August 2010 (BST)
Ban lifted after email from Axe Hack. Can Ross and AH confirm?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:39, 26 August 2010 (BST)
Aye. But if you don't believe it is actually me, just wait for Ross. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:41, 26 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah. Its him. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:13, 29 August 2010 (BST)


Arminius (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Another bunghole alt? Arminius was the Roman name of an ancient Germanic warlord, and all that fresh new account did was to chime in on a VB case Streicher brought up. -- Spiderzed 18:20, 24 August 2010 (BST)

Yep Ipcheck shows its an open proxy and already banned as a matter of course. The evidence looks quite compelling. But, second opinion always wanted. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:21, 24 August 2010 (BST)

I'm in agreement.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 18:49, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Banned for 40 days. Can someone check over to ensure that's the right amount?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 18:58, 24 August 2010 (BST)
If its an alt created to avoid a ban, thats a perma, surely? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:00, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah, that's what i thought, but DDR banend the others for 41 or 42 days. I'll fix.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 19:02, 24 August 2010 (BST)
You guys realise we only ever perma'd them cause they were alts of perma'd users, right? -- 00:04, 25 August 2010 (BST)
Doesn't really matter, considering Corn's now got a Perma vote against him.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 00:05, 25 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah, and I forgot the 3 edit rule which applies to most anyway. -- 00:06, 25 August 2010 (BST)


Sexualharrison (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)


Making an archive page of a page not his, after his posts got deleted. --Streicher 09:54, 24 August 2010 (BST)

Not vandalism this time, but if it continues to happen, that may change. If a group wants to wipe it's talk page without archiving, that's their prerogative. Please don't encourage him to return. I'm deleting the wiped archive -- boxy talkteh rulz 10:59 24 August 2010 (BST)

at most this could only be soft warning material, I remember users have been warned for similarish stuff (but much more abrasive and questionable). Not his fault really, he asked sysops whether what he did was right and the answer should have been to ark it to his own userspace not into a group that he doesn't belong to whilst every single one of their users were banned. But please don't do it again. --

11:15, 24 August 2010 (BST)

how do i go about doing that? just make a namespace under my namespace? like sexualharrison/nazi's_are_retarded? something like that. i always mess up the links. thanks.. see hatred get me involved. i haven't been this active in the wiki in years.----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 14:17, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah, like that, but the above is just DDR's vote. Personally, I'd say not vandalism at all.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 14:19, 24 August 2010 (BST)
And not because I "hate cornhoolio", as DDR said, but because it was obviously good faith.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 14:21, 24 August 2010 (BST)
I personally find this to be in good faith, as it keeps the group's (just one person's) talk page clean like they (he) wanted it, whilst still preserving comments that users made for viewing in a manner that isn't intrusive. I'm going to go with not vandalism here, as Harrison created an archive page and linked to it, rather than beginning a more harmful edit war or something similar in order to revert the original page. We're coming to get you, Barbara 21:21, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Oh piss off- you guys are jokes when it comes to cornholioo's shit. I'm not saying this is vandalism, but you could at least try and pretend to justify the rulings with something somewhat unbiased. SH wanted to preserve the records of him pwning cornholioo on his own talk page, cornholioo had wiped them, he should ark them in his own place not make his own archive. Can I use the wayback machine to archive all the shit we said to Finis in 08 even though he would wipe it within a minute of us saying it, into User talk:Finis Valorum/Archive? Not only can i, but I'll be painted as an angel by the op team? Thanks guys! -- 00:02, 25 August 2010 (BST)
Actually, when I made my ruling, I didn't know he did it to add comments that had been removed back in to a conversation. Having realised that that is the case, I am actually more incliend to say soft warning, sorry, DDr. :P --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 00:04, 25 August 2010 (BST)
DW I wasn't going for that, I more meant Misanthropy's text. And now I read it again I don't even think it was as bad as I originally thought, this is what I get for editing first thing in the morning when I'm grumpy about my alarm waking me. -- 00:08, 25 August 2010 (BST)
no i did it to preserve everything. not just my pwning. i really thought that since it was a public page you shouldn't nuke stuff like that. now i know for sure what the policy is. this won't happen again.----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 00:20, 25 August 2010 (BST)

Since when has it ever been okay to add pages to another group's namespace? I'm going to go with Soft Warning since I honestly think (or have at least been swindled into thinking that) he didn't know better, but activity like this should be considered Vandalism under most circumstances. That space belongs to the group, and restoring content that they had obviously wanted gone is not something anyone has the right to should do in their space. Aichon 06:08, 25 August 2010 (BST)

He's said that he won't do it again, and we've got 3 soft warnings (cbf to change my vote) to one not vandalism, so I say close as soft warning. I'll administer.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 10:31, 25 August 2010 (BST)
A good call IMO, I agree that he didn't know it was the wrong thing to do and he even asked sysops about whether it was wrong. I can't remember who said it wasn't, but shame on them and their mamas. -- LEMON #1 11:53, 25 August 2010 (BST)
It was myself and Misanthropy.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 11:57, 25 August 2010 (BST)

User:Cornholioo (3)

Combat 18 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Decided to IP check Combat 18's recent flurry of edits, found his recent IP address directly matches that of Cornholioo's at the time of his banning, as shown in the checkuser log. Have escalated Cornholio to a second month ban which I have added approximately onto the day his ban should have ended, and have banned Combat 18 so its ban expires at the time of Cornholioo's unbanning which is also about a month and a half away now. Perma vote I guess. --

13:11, 23 August 2010 (BST)

Yep. Had to trawl the block logs for the old IP but it matches. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:21, 23 August 2010 (BST)

Yeboi, time for a vote. (sysops only please) --

13:51, 23 August 2010 (BST)

Already breaching his ban via User:Streicher. No Checkuser, but as Streicher was a leading Nazi, I think that's evidence enough that it's him. Any chance it's enough to ban this blatant alt?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 11:16, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Suspected user's IP registers as a once-registered spam IP address at http://www.stopforumspam.com, but that could either mean he uses it as a proxy of some sort or it's just a shared IP, most likely the latter. If all he's going to do is report Sexualharrison then leave, I wouldn't have bothered. If he starts actually trying to maintain Combat 18 or do any specific functions that Cornholioo is likely to be controlling I'd feel more inclined to stop the account. -- 11:24, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Nah he's indicated he's gonna maintain Combat 18. I move to ban the account, thoughts? -- 11:25, 24 August 2010 (BST)
I'm for a ban. It's obviously him.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 11:27, 24 August 2010 (BST)
While I don't think anyone will be against a ban, I say we wait for support from one more op, just to be sure. We are in no hurry. -- 11:41, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah, at least 3 would be best seeing how we have nothing concrete.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 12:45, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Agreed. It's far too convenient that another member would happen to register just as this guy gets banned. -- Cheese 13:13, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Especially when it's a known fact he has no other members, just zerg alts. I'm banning Streicher, though I'm not escalating Corn due to lack of evidence. -- 13:20, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Also, the second Red logs on he'll be permabanned. (Corn, not Red)--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 13:26, 24 August 2010 (BST)
There's still Boxy to vote as well. =p -- Cheese 13:29, 24 August 2010 (BST)
Yeah, but I know red will vote to perma, and we only need one more.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 14:16, 24 August 2010 (BST)

Two thirds of overall sysops have voted to permaban. I assume we no longer need to wait for a week?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:54, 24 August 2010 (BST)

Meh, there's no rush. He's banned for the next 40 or so days anyway. Just wait on Boxy. -- Cheese 09:27, 25 August 2010 (BST)


  1. Yeah, blown it this time. -- 13:51, 23 August 2010 (BST)
  2. No Chance of turning his behaviour round methinks. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:41, 23 August 2010 (BST)
  3. As I said, one more messup and it's a ban. So long, Adolf.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 14:57, 23 August 2010 (BST)
  4. Yup. Ban him. He's had more than enough chances. -- Cheese 15:53, 23 August 2010 (BST)
  5. He had his chance (one more than I thought he deserved), and failed. Aichon 01:13, 24 August 2010 (BST)
  6. Good riddance. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 23:52, 24 August 2010 (BST)
  7. Who? -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:35 25 August 2010 (BST)

No Permaban

  1. Easily contained. Not wiki-breaking. Keep for moar lulz. :( We're coming to get you, Barbara 19:47, 23 August 2010 (BST)



All 8 sysops have now voted and it has been decided that Cornholioo will be permabanned with 7 in favour and 1 against. All known alts of Cornholioo will also be permabanned. -- Cheese 14:17, 25 August 2010 (BST)

Grr! Argh! *shaking fist* We're coming to get you, Barbara 16:15, 25 August 2010 (BST)
Abschied, mein kleiner Feind.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 16:49, 25 August 2010 (BST)


Guns (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

hurr failing at template calls across wikis then covering it up is cool. along with another fail edit, that's 3 edits and perma. --

14:57, 21 August 2010 (BST)

Why only a year? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:58, 21 August 2010 (BST)
I was doing a Boxy v Poodle on him! Nah just kidding I misclicked. Fix'd. -- 15:00, 21 August 2010 (BST)
You write quicker than I, damn you. - User:Whitehouse 14:59, 21 August 2010 (BST)
He's also a bit of a troll on the hell rising wiki. I went and said hi. They have 3 1 active sysops. I reckon we could take them in a war. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:05, 21 August 2010 (BST)

User:Mike Aussie

Mike Aussie (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Self-confessed alt of the below two accounts (check user confirms). -- Cheese 18:04, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Now seems to be deliberately breaking this page -- Cheese 18:14, 18 August 2010 (BST)

To respond to this question.

"It's come into notice that Pathetic Bill user group actually fabricated many of their kills just to see if they could get caught.

he only posted a cursory amount of screenies to back up any claims. Isn't it actually violating UD Wiki regs to make false claims against other characters in game? If not it should be. And before it is asked, I doubt that the claims, pro or con, could be proved otherwise, so why is unproveable, and possibly violating , information allowed to exist on the pages?"

Groups can be as POV as they like, if a player believes a claim is false or malicious they can take it to arbitration. You can't base your argument on is this true? because IT SHOULD be!

Also. This is a central hub for the game Urban dead. It isn't wikipedia. It combines game information and resources, with discussion areas and group areas for individuals to coordinate in game. Its also, about a fictional zombie apocalypse. It's a living document recording in game and meta events. I have no intention of letting people purge zombie comments because no survivor has bothered to write up their side of the story. I wouldnt care as much if your own bias wasn't completely the other way. Or are you telling me that Shackleville is up to your POV standards? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:18, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Having looked at it, I'm actually tempted to say newb error on this one.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 19:35, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Moved to talk

Vandalism. We're coming to get you, Barbara 21:32, 18 August 2010 (BST)

I'm leaning towards ridiculous, rather than vandalism. Seems like they just botched it up but had some sort of intent with that whole thing that wasn't malicious. Aichon 22:18, 18 August 2010 (BST)

No, fuck that. NO reason why he should be making new accounts to be achieving this, dont know what he thinks he's doing, but this account should be perma'd, vandal alt account. Vandalism -- 02:11, 19 August 2010 (BST)
I was referring to the second link, regarding posting that stuff here, not the multiple alts bit. Regarding that however, a point of clarification? What's our basis for banning alts of vandals immediately? The guidelines don't make any mention of that sort of thing, and it's even explicitly stated in a few different places that multiple alts are acceptable. Aichon 02:21, 19 August 2010 (BST)
Slippery slope :( Usually we don't perma alts unless they perform vandalism and are designated a "vandal alt". We have warned mains before for the apparent act of making a trolling account, and not have the alt itself banned because it didn't do any vandalism. Examples are User:Wiki Martyr, where Iscariot would put himself on Arbitration under "Iscariot, Wiki Martyr" for cases so Conndraka made an account called "Wiki Martyr" to say he didn't want to be involved in this arbie case. Best thing he ever did. Aaanyways, if alts perform vandalism and we have reason to believe they are an alt specifically used to carry out vandalism we can perma, we often do. I consider his creation of this account a somewhat poor way of manipulating either our perception of what he's saying and it's neutrality, or an attempt to cross the line of spamming/text removing with the intent of trying to get around his main getting the eventual punishment (most likely doesn't understand that's not possible with our warning system), which makes it an alt created for specifically bad faith purposes and goes into the realm of alt abuse from there. -- 03:19, 19 August 2010 (BST)

So, what do people want to do with this account? It's been voted vandalism, I think permaban. --

03:22, 20 August 2010 (BST)

Alt accounts that vandalise are usually permbanned, and the main account escalated. Wiki alts are allowed, but once they are used for vandalism, the privilege is removed. (Not much time at the moment to go through all the in's and outs of these cases though, so not ruling) -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:43 20 August 2010 (BST)
The tl dr of it all is that this guy is using his alts to enforce his NPOV disputes (hence arbitration worthy and not vandalism) as one entity for no reason, rather than argue from the one account. it's more annoying than vandalism and the accounts have existed for a while, except this one in question which is seemingly created to bring the argument to A/VB along with page breaking fail edits. If no one pipes up, I will perma this account and warn the main. -- 14:47, 20 August 2010 (BST)

K. Perma'd, Celmare warned. --

15:15, 21 August 2010 (BST)

Urban sombrero AKA Celmare (2)

Urban sombrero (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Celmare (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Here Impersonation. Silly. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:41, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 14:53, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Distastefully reminiscing of the precedents like this, except unlike the given link which I would have ruled not vandalism if I was op at the time, this isn't such an obvious joke and is done to troll/pester an unwilling user. Vandalism --

16:06, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - Celmare warned. -- Cheese 18:10, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Urban sombrero AKA Celmare

Urban sombrero (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Celmare (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Checkuser confirms that these two are the same individual. Identical MO and page edits. Both started off as Danger report updaters, followed by spammish comments to the Ridleybank and other pages. Several IPs used by at least Celmare are known proxies. Thoughts?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 13:14, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Celmare is indeed the main account as its older. And traditionally we've always banned open proxies. Karek banned about a million. Any luck with that Factual Continuity argument?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:22, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Proxies not listed on the Wikipedia blacklist, but googling the IPs identifies them as proxies. Still permissable to block them udner policy? The relevant policy says to sue wikipedia's "as well as our own". So, can we block them?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 13:24, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Factual Continuity? Aichon 13:31, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Read Sombrero' page. Go ahead and ban the open proxies. Someone want to misconduct me later, so be it. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:32, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Proxie IP's are banned on sight. For the Ridleybank shit, arbie him. If there's anything specific you want him warned for, bring the edits and we can rule on them together, but atm I've skimmed through generally and there isn't really anything they've done that's vandalism besides the pathetic bill shit that I came across. If I'm wrong, bring on the difs cause I could have easily missed some. --

13:37, 18 August 2010 (BST)

I'd also like to add that Urban S. was created on the 16th, right after Aichon explained to Charl him why his edits were remiss. Charl stopped editing and Urban took straight back over. Strange that. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:50, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Right. Anyway. Ive banned all the open proxies used, and a whole bunch of similar ones coming from one location. There's a couple I left off as I couldn't be sure, but hey, If he tries again and they're similar, we'll know. Incidentally, Im involved and all, but I assume we'd like one account only for him? I don't think he really needs two. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:04, 18 August 2010 (BST)
I agree. I'd think a permaban on urban Sombrero, move the talk to Celmare's and replace with a redirct.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 15:10, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Get some more input though. He'll be back online between 5 and 6. That's a bet based off previous behaviour. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:17, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Then back online properly sometime just before 8 for the whole evening. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:18, 18 August 2010 (BST)
I have nothing against letting him edit under two accounts. As long as they are treated as one and the vandal data is combined (obviously one of them can be banned as a vandal alt once vandalism is done) I really don't mind. -- 15:59, 18 August 2010 (BST)
He now has one succeeded Vandalism case against him above, and another in progress. Still thinking we should leave it until he's done more, or should we deal with it now?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 19:31, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Nup. Ban the alts and warn him for wiping shit. As for the actual problem at hand, he has as much right as he does to whinge until someone can be bothered to arbie him. -- 02:13, 19 August 2010 (BST)

Bumping so we can wrap it up before the new month. I disagree with banning the alt itself in this case, but agree with most of the rest that has been said. Aichon 06:10, 25 August 2010 (BST)

Closing case after banning of open proxies, and with disappearance of the user (until today, a few minutes ago).--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:45, 30 August 2010 (BST)

Poodle of Doom

Poodle of doom (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Just sick and tired of being sick and tired of the same old shit.... - Poodle of Doom 05:57, 15 August 2010 (BST)

Uh-huh? We're coming to get you, Barbara 05:58, 15 August 2010 (BST)
What,... ban me already... - Poodle of Doom 05:59, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Perma, month, five minutes til you change your mind again again, how long? We're coming to get you, Barbara 06:00, 15 August 2010 (BST)
What ever floats your boat. I didn't get what I asked for the last couple of times anyway. I don't know how long I'm going to be out of the country this time anyway. - Poodle of Doom 06:14, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Perma'd. Length doesn't matter, since self-requested ones are as long as he wants them to be anyway. And now, I'm gonna go deal with A/SD... Aichon 06:44, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Ffs. so fucking cut. -- 06:45, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Also, if this needs to go on A/VD, can someone else get it? I can't remember if we note these there or not. Aichon 06:46, 15 August 2010 (BST)
We typically don't, dw. -- 06:49, 15 August 2010 (BST)

You still need to protect Userpage/Talk. As well as adding the appropriate templates. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 12:07, 15 August 2010 (BST)

Protected. Adding Templates.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 12:09, 15 August 2010 (BST)
I considered a template on his user page inappropriate, because it's a redirect. Anyone who wants to add one feel free (if you can edit protected pages lol).--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 12:11, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Drat, I knew I was forgetting something obvious last night when I was processing all of that stuff. Just couldn't remember what it was. Aichon 18:24, 15 August 2010 (BST)

Making a note here that he contacted me via e-mail with the following message: "Temporary unblockage please....?¿?". I've gone ahead and unblocked him and removed the protections on his pages for now. I don't know what he means by "temporary", but whatever. Unblocked anyway. I think that makes it four days, this time. Aichon 00:46, 20 August 2010 (BST)

Wow, and less than 24 hours after he told me he would never return to the wiki.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 00:48, 20 August 2010 (BST)
Actually,... I'm here to vandalise a few things,... but I have a few things to do first. Keep your eyes on the recent changes,... because I'll be back on here again,.... - Poodle of Doom 00:54, 20 August 2010 (BST)
This is getting to be worse than Terry Funk. We're coming to get you, Barbara 00:59, 20 August 2010 (BST)
Will strongly argue against applying a self ban to Poodle again. -- 03:21, 20 August 2010 (BST)
Wait.... if I wanted a ban, and people said no,... couldn't I just vandalis the wiki to get my way? Thus getting a round about self ban? Seriously though, I had this conversation with Younna a couple of days ago,... no one else from my old group deals with the wiki much. I'm just helping out... thus I only want to be here temporarily. - Poodle of Doom 03:48, 20 August 2010 (BST)
So come here temporarily and stop wasting our time with your petty self bans which actually do nothing. It's easier for you to click log out than it is for us to permaban you. Vandalise this place all you want; you'll only get a ban you can't reverse, god knows how you'd cope with that. -- 03:52, 20 August 2010 (BST)
God knows how I cope with a constant pissing match.... - Poodle of Doom 03:59, 20 August 2010 (BST)
Not sure what you're obsession is with pissing matches, I don't think we have them here in Australia, so I don't really know what to say. My above warning still stands though. -- 04:08, 20 August 2010 (BST)
You know what's an even easier way to not edit the wiki? It doesn't involve a ban at all, you may be surprised to find out. It's called self control. With enough of this seemingly magical substance, you won't need to vandalize or even request a ban in order to avoid editing all the time. Aichon 05:23, 20 August 2010 (BST)
But the only things I edit are typically group pages... - Poodle of Doom 23:07, 20 August 2010 (BST)
Even if that were true (you shit up the admin pages a lot), it still would have zero relevance. We're coming to get you, Barbara 23:09, 20 August 2010 (BST)

User:Kaspian Waters

Kaspian Waters (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Vandalism of the LOO Rangers page. Related to the second case below--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:42, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Edit--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:43, 12 August 2010 (BST)
Doesn't seem to get it. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:50, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Ffff. Vandalism, possible 3-edit rule? We're coming to get you, Barbara 16:53, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Gotta wait for one more then. Only two edits were vandalism. But we shouldn't encourage vandalism, now should we ;)? --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:55, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - 3 edit doesn't apply because there are non-vandal edits.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:19, 12 August 2010 (BST)

In fact, seems to have been present in 2005 more than once. There's also a comment on Talk:On Strike.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:24, 12 August 2010 (BST)
Must have been before the purge then, I just checked the contribs. I wasn't sure if talk comments counted under the 3-edit rule though. We're coming to get you, Barbara 17:57, 12 August 2010 (BST)
Neither was I, but I'm pretty sure the 3 edit only applies to vandalistic edits. And yeah, it was before the purge. The best tactic is to type his name in to search and then his all namespaces.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 20:11, 12 August 2010 (BST)
If you're looking for information regarding what is or isn't a 3-edit case, see here. Aichon 02:22, 13 August 2010 (BST)
Just look at "what links here" on his user page. -- 07:32, 13 August 2010 (BST)

Warned - no need to wait on fairly straightforward cases like this. Just warn the buggers -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:03 12 August 2010 (BST)


TripleU (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Much to my surprise, it seems that saving one's work until a week before the deadline is a bad idea. However, I know from experience that wiki ≠ finished work. I'm not sure if no wiki = finished work, but It's worth a try. End it on the 16th, please. --VVV RPGMBCWS 06:46, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Will do in just a moment. Aichon 06:59, 12 August 2010 (BST)
No wiki definately ≠ finished work. :( We're coming to get you, Barbara 07:10, 12 August 2010 (BST)

User:Loup Garou and User:Comeatmebro

Loup Garou (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Comeatmebro (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Page blanking repeatedly. Page seems contentious but the edit warring should stop. We're coming to get you, Barbara 21:06, 11 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - Loup Garou warned, Comeatmebro permabaned -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:21 11 August 2010 (BST)


Akdov (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)


--Dawkins DAWKINS IS WATCHIN' [T][P!][W!][] is currently: having his arm torn off by a zombie. 20:55, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Seems simple enough. V. Mebbe. We're coming to get you, Barbara 20:58, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Newb error. Thinks he's updating the danger report.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 20:59, 9 August 2010 (BST)

How about we ask him on his talk page what he was trying to do before we jump to conclusions? His contributions don't seem to point towards vandalistic behavior, so I'm guessing it was a mistake, but since he's never updated a danger report, I disagree with Yonn's assessment. Basically, I don't know what he was doing, but I don't think it was in bad faith. Follow the guidelines on this page by giving him the benefit of the doubt and talking it out with him. Aichon 21:08, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Why do you disagree? His next contribution was criticising the lack of updates of danger reports in and around spicer hills. I'd wager he clicked the image, was directed there, and editted the image description, thinking that was how he changed it.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:10, 9 August 2010 (BST)
I'll wait til I see if he says anything, but other than that it was one of those edits which could be argued from either side and I'm in a bad mood after stepping a legoman barefoot. >:( We're coming to get you, Barbara 21:14, 9 August 2010 (BST)
He edits spontaneously every 2-5 months. It could be 2011 before he even sees the message.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:23, 9 August 2010 (BST)
The nearest mall to his local group's HQ is 17 blocks away, hence why I doubted it was related. It would be odd if his very first danger report ever was for a location that isn't nearby, especially when his group is headquartered in a decently well-known TRP and has eight other TRPs within five blocks. Aichon 21:31, 9 August 2010 (BST)
Well since that image is used on all danger reports, and not just malls, I'd say that's pretty inconsequencial.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:33, 9 August 2010 (BST)
Location of malls matters why? All those images are titled mall-whatever, but get used on all danger reports. We're coming to get you, Barbara 21:34, 9 August 2010 (BST)
*cough* Umm...well...you see...*points dramatically* Is that a zombie hippopotamus eating a baby alien birthed by Britney Spears over there?! *runs away* Aichon 21:40, 9 August 2010 (BST)

I'm thinking close the case as an obvious newb error, with the option to reopen if he turns up and says "Yep, I'm a vandal".. Any oppositions?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:42, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Not vandalism - just doesn't understand how to update danger reports -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:10 9 August 2010 (BST)

This. -- 04:27, 10 August 2010 (BST)

User:Barry bonds

Barry bonds (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

You might be interested that the new user that you welcomed, Barry bonds, has done nothing but vandalizing my entries to insult me. I'm sure he is BarryBonds756, a Pitneybank PKer whom I've been in conflict with. Looks like he couldn't find me in-game, so he pathetically attacked me on the Wiki instead.

I'll just revert back the vandalism and leave his case to your judgment. -- Kittithaj 04:17, 9 August 2010 (BST)

I'm taking this off Mis's Talk page, and posting it here... - Poodle of Doom 04:24, 9 August 2010 (BST)
Here are some diff links. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:53, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalisms - 4 edits, none contributive so it's a lovely sexy permaban for this guy. -- Cheese 08:25, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Axe Hack

Axe Hack (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

I request a 20 hour banning starting from at least the time of this post. Why? I'll be on a plane heading back to New York soon and it'll be a nuisance if someone were to hack my account if I'm on the plane, wouldn't it? Thanks in advance! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:09, 8 August 2010 (BST)

Uh, ok. 20 hours beginning now. We're coming to get you, Barbara 01:14, 8 August 2010 (BST)

User:Cornholioo (2)

Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Continues to spam up the vandalism page with race baiting despite a soft warning -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:30 5 August 2010 (BST)

If I vote vandalism will all of you guys promise to stop feeding him? He'll only spam the admin pages like this when you bring him to VB for things. Troll him on his own pages. It's more efficient. We're coming to get you, Barbara 14:32, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Oh how I wish this involved party could vote vandalism, since he's directly doing exactly what he was warned not to do by Boxy, and repeatedly. --

14:35, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - This has got to stop. -- Cheese 15:36, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Looking at his VD, if this goes through as vandalism, he's up for a permaban vote. -- Cheese 15:38, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Yep. Not that that should affect the case in hand. Let's worry about that if it comes to vandalism. -- 16:26, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Then go ahead and permban me for defending myself. --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 17:23, 5 August (BST)
Sorry we'll get back to you when we're finished spinning dreidels. We're coming to get you, Barbara 17:27, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Thanks for admitting that you're a Jew. Jews often deny being a Jew. This is also a Tactic of Judas. --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 17:29, 5 August (BST)
Oh? I just happen to enjoy spinning dreidel. You should try it when you're not too busy flicking man-bean. We're coming to get you, Barbara 17:32, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Image:Davidster.jpg --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 17:38, 5 August (BST)
Aww, it's a community bonfire. He really does have a heart. We're coming to get you, Barbara 17:46, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:38, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Ban me, my work will be done. Image:Bloodandhonour-250.jpg --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 17:41, 05 August (BST)

That seems like a self request to me. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:51, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Enough. Month ban and permban vote -- boxy talkteh rulz 23:02 5 August 2010 (BST)


  1. Yes -- boxy talkteh rulz 23:02 5 August 2010 (BST)
  2. No far too much fun. We're coming to get you, Barbara 23:03, 5 August 2010 (BST)
  3. Yes - Shown an unwillingness to participate as a contributive and non-abusive member of the wiki, and has blatantly disregarded what he was just told not to do. If not for the linked offense, then certainly for what he posted in his "defense". Aichon 23:04, 5 August 2010 (BST)
  4. Yes Unless anyone can find a constructive npov edit he's made. And then still yes.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:08, 5 August 2010 (BST)
  5. No - Personally, I'm against the perma-ban for anybody but accounts which just vandalise. Since his offences are more public nuisance than vandalism of pages, I'll go with no this time, but if he offends again, I'll be inclined to change my mind.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:31, 5 August 2010 (BST)
    more on talk page
  6. No - A month at a time is good enough for now. Next time I'll say yes. -- 01:43, 6 August 2010 (BST)
    more on talk page
  7. Yes - Cheese 11:16, 6 August 2010 (BST)
  8. Yes - Since Cheese asked me so nicely to weigh in. Anyways, as surprising as it may sound, I've actually been following this. I'd say it's pretty clear if Mr. Cornholioo is allowed back on, he'll just continue his racist tirades. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 22:51, 6 August 2010 (BST)

Permabanned since that's all of the regular voters on A/VB. Aichon 12:06, 6 August 2010 (BST) Bit early -- Cheese 21:17, 6 August 2010 (BST)

Plz update the userpage accordingly; perma-banned instead of one month ban.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 15:05, 6 August 2010 (BST)
Done. -- 15:08, 6 August 2010 (BST)

I hate to bring this up (honestly, I do), but the vote hasn't come down in favour of a perma. =/ The policy says we need a two thirds majority in a week long vote. We have 57% after less than 24 hours. Wee bit fast off the mark there, Aichon. -- Cheese 19:57, 6 August 2010 (BST)

I feel very stupid. I had forgotten we had policy dictating it to that extent and that 2/3 was necessary. Yep, I was definitely in the wrong here. Aichon 21:52, 6 August 2010 (BST)

With the Rooster demoted, a 2/3 majority is no longer possible unless Kevan votes or someone changes their mind. - User:Whitehouse 19:40, 10 August 2010 (BST)

Well then, frankly, I think it's case closed. Cornhoolio is advised not to do this again, or he faces a very likely permanent ban.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 19:50, 10 August 2010 (BST)


Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

More hate speech about races here, again quite similar to the last time he did it and was escalated here, in his "you are/doing something [negative] and therefore that aspect/action related to you is a jew." I guess I might aswell also submit this which I distastefully remember as being rules as "vandalism" as evidence about how tenuous these connections may constitute racism.

I'm not jewish, which most probably makes it worse that he's trying to bring his racist ideologies into an unrelated discussion. --

03:00, 5 August 2010 (BST)

If you guys would just fucking codify this shit already... Grr! Argh! *shaking fist* We're coming to get you, Barbara 03:04, 5 August 2010 (BST)
I think it's still too dangerous. I think, a few months ago, where we escalated people for not just dropping the N-Bomb, but slightly resting it onto the ground and petting it until it stopped crying, in the name of the TOU, was too far. Maybe that's cause I'm Australian and all aussies are racists. But the line is so hard to be drawn I think it should be treated on a case-by-case basis. -- 03:11, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Bah. Anyway if we're doing it case by case, this time it's simply been a case of accusing the Jews of holding their hands over their heads, and surely they have to put those caps on somehow. I'm erring on the side of not vandalism for this one but I'll rule later. Still think we need an actual policy, even one that tells us which side to lean more often. We're coming to get you, Barbara 03:14, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Not Vandalism - His last vandalism comment wasn't by itself, and, as I recall, I was ruling based not only on the quote that was linked, but also on some of the other stuff he had said that same day, which was as bad or worse, if memory serves. This time, however, he didn't say anything too out there. Give him time though. I'm sure he'll hang himself soon enough with his own words. He always does. Aichon 04:22, 5 August 2010 (BST)

First of all, I don't think I've said anything technically wrong there, even if you do qualify it racist. For example: African blacks have an average IQ of 75. US Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Whites have an average IQ of 100 (often higher in the Germanic states; lower in the Mediterranean states). Blacks are more aggressive and impulsive than Whites. This is all scientifically proven. Scientifically it's safe to say that 'whites are smarter than blacks' or that 'criminality is influences by genes' although some people might call that racist. Jews do often hold each others a hand above the head. That is the same thing. Then there is also something like 'blacks are able to run fasten than whites', which is also the same thing, although, for some wonderful reason no one ever calls this racism (why would that be? (HINT: divide and conquer)).

Second, I don't think I've ever mentioned the word 'nigger' on this wiki.

Third, I have no idea how it is in England, but in the Netherlands we call 'racism': 'discrimination by race'. According to our constitution, 'discrimination' means 'making differences based on attributes (look very closely:) that are unimportant at this point'. There was not something like that, since I didn't mention the Jews as a group. What I literally said was: "Jews often hold eachothers a hand above the head". And I think we can all agree that "Wiki is still a Jewish network, and is used by Jews a lot." is not racism.

Fourth, probably makes not much difference what I'm typing. Jews often hold eachothers a hand above the head. White Regards, --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 10:30, 5 August 2010

International website, dictionary.com defines racism as "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others." Thats science. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:48, 5 August 2010 (BST)

That's not science, but ok. So can you explain me how anything I said fits this? --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 11:30, 5 August 2010

I've given him a soft warning, any more of this on admin pages, and it's warning/ban time -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:04 5 August 2010 (BST)

And next time round its a perma ban vote I believe. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:07, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Gee, I wonder which way that will turn! --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 11:30, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Still no one ever explained me how this fits racism. The wiki always claims to be neutral, but this is the third time there is a bias. I know multiple people agree with me on this. My life's task is unmasking the Jews, and I'm proud of my work on this wiki.--CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 11:30, 5 August 2010
We just said it didn't fit racism, hence the Not Vandalism ruling, if you had actually stopped to read instead of coming here and complaining immediately. You were soft warned for your racially-oriented commentary here, which is a fancy way of saying that you didn't get in trouble for anything this time, but we're asking you not to do it or else you will get in trouble later. The point is that racially-oriented discussions have no place on the admin pages, in the same way that we wouldn't allow someone to argue the superiority of their political party, or their favorite computer brand, or their take on how we all came into being on this rock. That sort of stuff has no place here, and that's what you were soft warned for. Aichon 11:47, 5 August 2010 (BST)
So I'm soft warned for posting "Jews often hold each others a hand above the head"? --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 12:10, 5 August 2010
Race rants on admin pages. So basically, yep! Don't do it again, or you'll face permaban1!!!-- 12:24, 5 August 2010 (BST)
So besides posting something not racist, I'm warned for explaining myself? That means I won. Plus if I'd have posted something like "hey crackers, we fucken pwn u at marathon LOL, BLACK POWERRRRRRRRRRR, peace out honkeys"... nothing would've been wrong. I always win. --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 13:27, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Now now Cornhole, remember what happened last time you said you always win. I don't believe the aura of the wiki was ever so high during that month and a half. -- 13:41, 5 August 2010 (BST)
I do. Me getting banned was a great achievement. I'm very proud of how I unmasked the Jews that day. Hail, CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 14:15, 05 August 2010 (BST)

Indeed, we all need to have admin pages spammed with your thoughts on the links between genetics and IQ. That's entirely relevant. You forgot to mention asians as well. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:13, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Moved to talk page -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:56 5 August 2010 (BST)


DanceDanceRevolution (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Editing my posts:


Hail, --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 13:38, 04 August 2010

My my, I did this just this morning on an image that was also obnoxiously large here. Better report me a second time too. Minimising the size on large images on this wiki that other users post is a very common thing, and at a resolution of 1162×864 that definitely fit within the criteria of obnoxiously large compared to some resolutions used by some computers. --

13:52, 4 August 2010 (BST)

Not vandalism - he made the image an acceptable size while maintaining it's functionality -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:55 4 August 2010 (BST)

Not vandalism - Good faith edit that occurs countless times. We're coming to get you, Barbara 14:19, 4 August 2010 (BST)

NV Ta. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:25, 4 August 2010 (BST)

Not Vandalism.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:20, 4 August 2010 (BST)

Yeah. You people are right. I don't know why I really reported him. Wiki is still a Jewish network, and is used by Jews a lot. Same stuff as with that 'The Colonel' guy back then. Then it was 'not vandalism' because he made 'a little schoolboy error'. Now it's 'not vandalism' because it's 'maintenance of the wiki'. It's exactly the same. Jews often hold eachothers a hand above the head; my life's task is unmasking them. WPWW, CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 17:28, 04 August 2010

moved to talk page

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