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The Battle of SantLUEville

One of the better-written Historical Event articles. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (The Battle of SantLUEville)

Yep --RossWHO????ness 22:23, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Absolutely. Aichon 00:34, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Was boss as fuck. hell yeah. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:59, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yes please. A fascinating read.-MHSstaff 03:04, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Rosslessness at 22:12, 30 August 2012)


An excellent article. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Dark)

Yep Its a good page to read, plus I love the picture. --RossWHO????ness 22:26, 23 August 2012 (BST)

yes Useful and well done --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Friday, 24 August 2012

I agree with those above me. Looks good. Aichon 00:39, 24 August 2012 (BST)

So beautiful :') DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For - But needs "You are likely to be eaten by a grue" squeezed into it somewhere. -- Spiderzed 16:53, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Rosslessness at 22:14, 30 August 2012)

Guides:Ghost Town Reclamation

One of the best-done guides I've seen. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Guides:Ghost Town Reclamation)

Yep Biased. --RossWHO????ness 22:27, 23 August 2012 (BST)

As Bob.-MHSstaff 03:45, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yes. FA can always be improved by adding moar Ross. There isn't really much similar to this article, and neither leaves this article much room for improved articles on the same topic. -- Spiderzed 16:05, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yep. Good guide on a good topic. Aichon 16:13, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Rosslessness at 22:14, 30 August 2012)

Guides:Managing Encumbrance

Good explanation of one of Urban Dead's most significant features. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Guides:Managing Encumbrance)

For. It was robbed during Featured Guides voting. Reached 71% in favor and would have passed if votes had been updated after changes were made. ~Vsig.png 02:11, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Not sure why this is not a featured guide.-MHSstaff 04:15, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yarp. --RossWHO????ness 10:36, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Sure. Works for me. Aichon 16:25, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For. As for G/R, feel free to retry. We don't really have a rule against retrying but the Rule of Popcorn-Throwing. -- Spiderzed 16:37, 24 August 2012 (BST)

ForGood guide, nice template, easier to read than typical game strategy guides. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Saturday, 25 August 2012

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Rosslessness at 22:14, 30 August 2012)

Play Style

Interesting article, and I love the little half-zombies. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Play Style)

Yes Ive never seen this page. --RossWHO????ness 21:35, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Yes. Its as complete as I could think to make it. ~Vsig.png 05:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes. The only thing this page lacks are a couple of examples to go with each entry. E.g., I wouldn't know a human-zombie alliance, zombie organization or entertainment group off the top of my head. -- Spiderzed 16:15, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Drama Club, Axes High for two of them. --RossWHO????ness 16:22, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yep. Loved this page ever since I found it a few years ago. That said, I wouldn't add examples. I like the fact that it weaves around playing favorites beautifully while still explaining all of the concepts well. Aichon 16:50, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Good point about playing favourites. Singling out 1-2 archetypical groups might lead to some drama by those who aren't picked. -- Spiderzed 17:11, 24 August 2012 (BST)
I gave each section a link to group style categories (where they existed) and links to main articles (where they existed). My concern is that I included some too-obscure play styles or missed some more entirely. I'm thinking of removing Wiki Groups since that's not really a play style. Any other changes I should address? ~Vsig.png 17:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Great article that explains the different playstyles clearly and concisely.-MHSstaff 17:26, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For with one alteration. Life-Cultists can be trans-mortal as is the case with pinata forts and your typical on-site revive after attacks of opportunity. The latter I think is the most used form of the tactic as I see it. Personally, I would not lump them in with ZKers either as even the example provided admits that the K is often not present and ZKers who adopt it as a principle playing style by definition are strictly zombies, but I can see how in most cases it is an accurate enough. Otherwise, this is a clear guide with a good format that is highly useful to new players who often have trouble getting anywhere on the wiki other than the map. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Saturday, 25 August 2012

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Rosslessness at 22:14, 30 August 2012)

The Alner Family

The most complete Family article on the wiki. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (The Alner Family)

Maybe. An interesting page, but not sure if worthy. --RossWHO????ness 22:20, 23 August 2012 (BST)

That is awesome. Absolutely yes. Aichon 00:33, 24 August 2012 (BST)

The detail on this helps give substance to Malton's back-story. I am for it. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Friday, 24 August 2012

Lol who the fuck wrote this? Someone had absolutely no life haha. I also misread the family tree and thought there was 4 generations of inbreeding. Oops. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:57, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yes also what DDR said. --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 03:00, 25 August 2012 (BST)

Quite stunning indeed and a magnificent source of information for all those who enjoy writing up a bit of building history now and then :) -- Johnny Twotoes 01:07, 31 August 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 21:10, 2 September 2012)

The Burchell Arms

One of the most flavorful location articles in the game. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (The Burchell Arms)

I'm for it. Aichon 00:37, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I agree with bobs summary --RossWHO????ness 00:41, 24 August 2012 (BST)


For it. --Alice Gravesend 20:42, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For it! Jesus Sante CFT 03:34, 25 August 2012 (BST)

Hell yeah I deny any bribes in alcohol have been delivered to my house :D -- Johnny Twotoes 01:10, 31 August 2012 (BST)

I think we can safely say this one passes. ~Vsig.png 19:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 21:14, 2 September 2012)

Dr. Schwan's Culinary

I think this one speaks for itself. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Dr. Schwan's Culinary)

For I find fiction/humor often underrepresented. Same reason I am for the "you know you've been playing..." page. This one serves a different purpose in a similar way. On the frontpage, there are links to tactics and resources but human interest is harder to come by. This shows the wiki is for more than just instruction manuals on the game. Plus I am a giant egomaniac. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Friday, 24 August 2012

For Several of the current FAs are either dry, boring, or redundant versions of things already explained in game. This isn't one of them.-MHSstaff 02:48, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Fuck it's long. but the images alone are excellent DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:06, 24 August 2012 (BST)

*carefully weaves around the fact he didn't read past the first paragraph* DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:07, 24 August 2012 (BST)

My problem with these has always been stylistic. I really don't like grey. --RossWHO????ness 10:30, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I just don't like that particular shade of gray. I'm fine with gray in general. Also, I'd love to see some word wrap around the images, rather than having them all displace text as they do. Aichon 15:43, 24 August 2012 (BST)
Yeah, maybe lighten the gray a bit more to get more contrast.-MHSstaff 17:37, 24 August 2012 (BST)
Grey lightened to gainsboro, format adjusted slightly, and text made to flow around images. This has the added benefit of making it look less long.--Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Saturday, 25 August 2012
Better, but mix it up a bit. Right align some of the images to vary it up visually as you go down the page, and maybe toss in some padding on them too, since otherwise it can still be difficult to read. Aichon 00:17, 25 August 2012 (BST)
Adjusted image padding and tried to alternate direction of float for images but alternating direction garbled the page. The images look a lot better to me on the left. Simplified page header.--Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Saturday, 25 August 2012

Zzzzzzzzzz. No.--Alice Gravesend 20:57, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Nicely done, Al. Good example of a ficticious article. For it. ~Vsig.png 19:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 21:15, 2 September 2012)

St. Barbara's Church

Super-flavorful location article. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (St. Barbara's Church)

Maybe, theres a lot of great work on display here. --RossWHO????ness 11:21, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I've been aware of the church and that it had been linked to Barbara from the movie, but I had never read that page before. That is awesome. Easily worth featuring. Aichon 16:58, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For. I've thought this page has been overlooked for quite some time.--Alice Gravesend 20:58, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 21:35, 2 September 2012)

Malton Herald & Sun

Given that the wiki has space devoted to journals and fiction, it is clear (to me) that the wiki is here both to educate as well as entertain. As one of the main zombie-centric media outlets, with a collection of over fifty articles and forty issues over a four year span, the MHS does a little of both, ranging from articles covering early game history, to interviews with historic figures from all sides, to reaction pieces on events and in-game trends. Yes, some of it is propaganda, but it is also fun propaganda that I think helps to capture some of the flavor that exists inside and outside the game. -MHSstaff 02:16, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Malton Herald & Sun)

Yes. Just yes. ~Vsig.png 02:56, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Yup. Most definitely. (and I'm totally not biased because I was interviewed in one issue) Aichon 06:37, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For. Well-known and relevant even beyond RRF circles. -- Spiderzed 17:08, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For. I especially like how issues don't have dates, so it gives the impression it's still updated despite that not being the case. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 23:24, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 21:44, 2 September 2012)

The World of Gnome

What name should this take? "Gnome's Game", "The World of Gnome" or something else? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:56, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (The World of Gnome)

For If gnome approves. --RossWHO????ness 21:13, 23 August 2012 (BST)

I do! Stuck up start page. --  AHLGTG 03:14, 24 August 2012 (BST)
Fixed the location of this candidacy. Also, under what name do you think it should go? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 03:16, 24 August 2012 (BST)
Gnome's Death Orgy?-MHSstaff 03:21, 24 August 2012 (BST)
The World of Gnome is just fine. I've never had anything closer than that to a name. --  AHLGTG 04:06, 24 August 2012 (BST)
Thanks! Fixed. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 04:12, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Awesomely fun and awesomely special.-MHSstaff 03:21, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Possibly the most popular user page there is at the moment. For. -- Spiderzed 17:07, 24 August 2012 (BST)

How have I not expressed my approval for this page yet? Definitely yes. Aichon 17:25, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 21:47, 2 September 2012)

Harman for the Holidays

Quite the event from the look of it. Also super-flavorful. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Extending Discussion. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:20, 2 September 2012 (BST)
Comments (Harman for the Holidays)

Incomplete. Who won? Is this an event or a song contest? Either way, that information is missing.-MHSstaff 03:48, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Will update with winner and link to Harman for the Holidays 2:Revenge of the Harman once I dig the winner out of my archives. In answer to your question, it was an event that was centered around a song contest.--Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Friday, 24 August 2012
Done and done--Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Friday, 24 August 2012

What happened with the decorations and caroling contests?-MHSstaff 17:39, 24 August 2012 (BST)

The caroling contest winner is flagged on the page next to the title of the winning song and on the discussion page. The decorations contest was dropped for lack of sufficient formal entries, opting instead for the lights map which shows that substantial anonymous decorating was done. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Saturday, 25 August 2012

I'm in favor. Aichon 16:26, 24 August 2012 (BST)

For Despite his utter-insanity (read: life-culting support), Schwan makes a hell of a wiki page. --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 23:04, 6 September 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 23:14, 15 September 2012)

Invasion of Gibsonton

A historical event with a well-written article. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

We need more comments on this one. Extending discussion. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:22, 2 September 2012 (BST)
Comments (Invasion of Gibsonton)

Need to fix those red links. --RossWHO????ness 11:14, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I just fixed the only red links I saw. Any comments? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:51, 31 August 2012 (BST)

Aye. One of the few PK events to follow standard battle format on UDWiki. Would mind if this were a historical event. ~Vsig.png 19:50, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm for it. Aichon 07:23, 3 September 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 23:15, 15 September 2012)

Tidal Tactics

A major tactic article. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Extending discussion. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:36, 2 September 2012 (BST)
Comments (Tidal Tactics)

Probably yes. --RossWHO????ness 11:23, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Wall of text. It needs some more stuff to help break it up a bit. Aichon 17:01, 24 August 2012 (BST)

+Image. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 00:55, 25 August 2012 (BST)
Mis did some additional work, and we ended up talking about it a bit on my talk page. I guess I'm at a marginal "yes". I still think reading it is a bit onerous. More opinions would be useful. Aichon 06:58, 3 September 2012 (BST)
Fiddled with some of the low-level headers again, centring them to produce a little more white space. Unsure of it though as the long image throws one of them slightly off-centre. Also added another image, and made sure all images now have screenreader-friendly alt text. If you're still not sold I could probably split the paragraphs up, retaining the wording but introducing more bite-sized nuggets of text to make it seem a bit more digestible; this would probably also alleviate that off-centre thing too. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 16:02, 3 September 2012 (BST)

Yes. A very good and well written article. It's also very informative about the tactic, which would be very helpful to new or even seasoned players. -- Goribus 04:15, 15 September 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 23:23, 15 September 2012)


Now that there's a mini-timeline, let's see if this gets featured. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)

Comments (Malton)

Yes. Maybe change the last paragraph so that its not so present tense. ~Vsig.png 02:20, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

As Vapor. Also, it's missing BB3 in 2010, which, together with RRF and MOB, helped to swing the game's ratio much more towards the zombie side than it had been in quite awhile. Aichon 16:43, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Changes made. Further comments? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:27, 2 September 2012 (BST)

I was for it already. I just thought it would be better with those changes (which it is, now that they've been made :P). More opinions would be welcome though, since otherwise it's just us having commented on it. Aichon 06:59, 3 September 2012 (BST)

yup a nice balance of text, formatting, images. A fairly slick, well-done page. --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 23:08, 6 September 2012 (BST)

The templates in the Population (and underneath) are not so nice. The colours are too heavy, and it doesn't really make sense to have those boxes in the {{maltonbox}} for that matter. --  AHLGTG 23:45, 6 September 2012 (BST)

Is someone going to deal with {{maltonbox}} or can I archive this as successful? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:16, 16 September 2012 (BST)
You could go ahead and Okay this submission before the changes, since it's only a minor issue (and one only of mine). I'd have to fiddle with the {{Malton Population}} template so the stats get transcluded in that template and in the {{maltonbox}}. (I don't feel like doing that right at this moment.)--  AHLGTG 21:25, 17 September 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 04:20, 26 September 2012)

Militant Order of Barhah/Locator

I like maps and timelines, and this is one of the more detailed ones for a group.-MHSstaff 18:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Extending discussion. Please comment. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:29, 3 September 2012 (BST)
Re-extending in case someone wants to make the fixes described below. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:26, 16 September 2012 (BST)
Extending one more time because Aichon has made some changes. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:43, 29 September 2012 (BST)
Comments (MOB Locator)

Yep, good meta information. --RossWHO????ness 18:30, 24 August 2012 (BST)

Yes. Thanks for submitting these group pages, MHSstaff! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 23:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)

I'm in favor, but I'm extremely biased, so I'd love to hear other's opinions. Aichon 20:47, 3 September 2012 (BST)

What's stopping me liking this one is how the map of the current suburb isn't keyed, and it's generally hard to read where the MOB-based changes to it have been added. I know it'd be a pain in the hoop to do but a stripped down version just with names (linked) and the explicitly-given statuses (lit, ruined, etc) coloured would be a whole lot easier to grok. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 21:10, 3 September 2012 (BST)

Good meta-info, but map of the suburb itself seems only to be partially in use and is kind of hard to read (with all the colors already present on the map etc). Bottom sources also include the Omnimap, and I do believe that one is broken? Couple of small fixes and you've got my vote ;) -- Johnny Twotoes 15:14, 9 September 2012 (BST)

The Omnimap works, it's the Scentral Intelligence Map it pulls the background from that's down. The bot that updated it and the pictures it used to do it were on urbandead.info which is no more. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 15:30, 18 September 2012 (BST)
Actually, in this discussion, it was consensused that both the SIM and Omnimap are defunct, and notes to that effect are present on the relevant pages. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:57, 18 September 2012 (BST)
I don't think that's what the consensus says, but if it is, we were wrong, since Karek is clearly correct if you actually check the Omnimap. That said, there are other maps that already provide the features it offers, so Omnimap has been largely abandoned, despite not being defunct. Aichon 21:07, 18 September 2012 (BST)
Pretty much. Swiers scripted the bot and I continued to host it on .info until it went offline completely. It was part of the scent submission program, was actually pretty cool functionality. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 18:30, 27 September 2012 (BST)

Can someone clarify the verdict on this one for me? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 05:26, 26 September 2012 (BST)

Mostly leaning towards "yes", it appears, with two on the fence and three in outright support. The major concerns are the suburb map, which has poor contrast and use, and the outdated links, which, while still present, will be pruned in the coming days, since I'm planning on redesigning and cleaning up the page "soon". Aichon 06:05, 26 September 2012 (BST)
Have Aichon design a real-time strike planner to integrate into the suburb map as well as implement an automatic-logging feature for past strikes into the global Malton map, and I think we would be there. -MHSstaff 16:37, 26 September 2012 (BST)
I don't even understand what those are. O_o Aichon 22:31, 26 September 2012 (BST)
I don't either but it would be pretty sweet. I sorta assumed there was a sysop button that could make those features. -MHSstaff 17:45, 27 September 2012 (BST)

Okay, did a style update to the page to bring it in line with MOB's overall theme of black and purple, then updated Iwit to Dumbwit. Other content changes will come later, though I don't know how much later. Regardless, it sounds like none of the links are actually to outright dead resources at this point, which should handle some of the concerns. Aichon 23:59, 28 September 2012 (BST)

Oh, and changed the colors for the map, which was the other primary complaint (pink -> red and cemetery green -> gray-red). They stand out quite a bit more than the old colors, without popping more than befits the tone of the page. Aichon 00:08, 29 September 2012 (BST)
That looks really nice. Don't you think the suburb map under Suburb Activities Map still looks a little out of place though? --  AHLGTG 20:45, 29 September 2012 (BST)
I do agree. Up until a few hours ago, both maps were a bit out of place, so it didn't stand out quite as much, but Karek replaced the Malton map with a custom one (which is awesome), so now it's kinda glaring how out of place it is. The issue with the suburb map is that because we move regularly and we don't have time to make 100 suburb maps, we rely on c/p from the publicly-used suburb maps on each suburb page. I think we may be able to get around the issue by switching to using the barricade plans instead of the suburb maps, then making a custom barricade plan map that caters more to our style, but I haven't done that just yet. I.e. It's planned to happen, but I would encourage voicing approval or disapproval here on the basis that it will not happen, just in case it doesn't end up being feasible. Aichon 20:55, 29 September 2012 (BST)

Is more work being done on this or am I closing it, and if so, how? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:25, 8 October 2012 (BST)

I think people are satisfied with it now and the remaining problem with it (the map under Suburb Activities Map) isn't that big of a deal. --  AHLGTG 22:14, 8 October 2012 (BST)

Verdict: Successful (Archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 04:56, 12 October 2012 (BST))

Tactical Resource Point

Let's try this one again. I made some changes to the text to make it a little more readable and fixed up the map so hopefully this article is now like somewhat useful. The map should totally show the distribution of all TRPs within Malton, as well as like the distribution for individual resources. At some point in the future, it wouldn't be a terrible idea to add danger status information on like, the hover-over, but that sounds like a lot of work and stuff, so I figured let's see what people thought of this version first. The maps are pretty easy to modify; you can pick like totally different colors and totally awesome sizes; I just went with something that I thought sorta works. Like, totally, right? -MHSstaff 23:06, 25 October 2012 (BST)

Comments (Tactical Resource Point)


Hottest article ever! -MHSstaff 23:13, 25 October 2012 (BST)

Made one small change for clarity. Also can we change the tab to say "Fuel" instead of "Gas"? It's the in game term, and frankly a much better word. --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 01:13, 26 October 2012 (BST)

Totally. -MHSstaff 02:45, 26 October 2012 (BST)

Questions - I totes get how the use of the {{TRPText}} template allows it to appear on all the pages. But can some noinclude text be added which tells people how to edit that text if they want? Also, can we move the various subpages to actual subpages of the main Tactical Resource Point article? (I'm thinking TRPGun becomes Tactical Resource Point/TRPGun etc.) Bob Moncrief EBDW! 04:30, 26 October 2012 (BST)

I don't see how noinclude text would help, since if someone has already made it to {{TRPText}} where they would see that noinclude text then they can certainly figure out how to edit it pretty easily, I should think. Besides which, there are edit links on the TRP page that make it easy to edit any of the sections in TRPText besides the topmost one. That said, I do support moving the pages. I'll do so in a moment since it does make more sense that way. Aichon 05:22, 26 October 2012 (BST)
Thanks Aichon! Definitely in favor. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 06:06, 26 October 2012 (BST)

Love it. Heartily in favor. Aichon 05:22, 26 October 2012 (BST)

Gentlemen. This is one of the best page rewrites I've ever seen. Well done. --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 10:52, 26 October 2012 (BST)

Maybe add a See Also section with other linked resources like Category:Building Danger Levels or Category:Building Information Center. ~Vsig.png 19:08, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

That makes sense. Made a Related Links section template that is linked to all the pages. -MHSstaff 20:59, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I support this nomination. The page is well written and structured. It's practical use is high, especially for newer players who are unfamiliar with Malton. It's a no-brainer to me. Boneshred The Hungry 20:09, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

I'd prefer to have the Secondary Resource Point table looking like this,

Fire Stations Fire Stations are a Spawn Point with many diverse items including Radios, Fire Axes, and Flare Guns. In years previous both Generators and Wirecutters were also searchable in Fire Stations but both have been removed.
Junkyards Junkyards are a veritable potpourri of valuable items but are not easily defensible resource points. Once upon a time the fences were sealed and Wirecutters were required to get inside a Junkyard, all the gates have long since been cut and Wirecutters are no longer searchable. While they can, rarely, serve as Spawn Points and are impossible to ruin Junkyards are known for low search rates and seemingly random items making them unreliable for gathering needed items.

...although it's not vitally important. Alternatively, bullets can do,

...minus the italics is fine as well. --  AHLGTG 21:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

That looks really sweet. I chose a slightly different color and matched the other box to the same color. That said, gainsboro looked pretty nice too. -MHSstaff 21:44, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
So, this isn't intended to sound as harsh as it doubtless will, but when I saw that color, I kid you not, the first thought that came to mind for the name of that color was "vomit peach". That's never a good sign. :P It's too colorful to be pale but not colorful enough to make a statement. That said, I'm also not a fan of gainsborough, for a wide variety of reasons. Just spit-ballin', but maybe #eee, #eef or #ffe? They're a bit lighter, and the latter two have some color to them. Aichon 22:15, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
HAHA! For the record, I'm okay with the vomit peach colour ;) Also like the grey one though. A ZOMBIE ANT 22:35, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
I also like "vomit peach" (and it makes me wish that's how crayola colors were named) but I'm always partial to pale blues and greens as an alternative; I' think they look crisper. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:41, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
How about Vomit Peach Lite? -MHSstaff 22:58, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
I prefer the name "Vomit Apricot" XD Bob Moncrief EBDW! 23:02, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

You guys work out the style side of it. Content-wise, it's awesome. For --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 22:42, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Verdict: Successful (archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 19:37, 23 November 2012 (UTC))

The Twotoes-Whipplebotum Malton Danger Center

This is The Danger Center's first submission. Johnny Twotoes and I have compiled ALL of Malton's Danger Reports into one 100x100 color-coded grid displaying each Building's Status and Suburb Name. We've further constructed 4 Quadrant-sized (25x25) maps to provide the Building's Name and Status on mouse-hover. Lastly we added a Suburb-sized map to the Suburb Template to display an entire suburb's individual building name and status on hover. These maps only require wiki users to update a building's DangerReport to keep the map up to date, that's right, just keep the DangerReports up to date and the maps will update automatically. Unfortunately I could not find a code that worked on Chrome to make the suburb tables clickable, it worked with Firefox but wouldn't display properly on Chrome. -Charles Whipplebotum 20:06, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Benefits of this Map.
This is the first map to display the entire city's color-coded building status at the building level.
It will encourage UDWiki users to update building DangerReports by producing an up to date visual representation of their neighborhood for anyone to reference, making the game a little more user friendly.
It will encourage groups to work together as it is a common tool available for live strategic planning.
This map is ultimately neutral and can be beneficial to all groups.
Some have already been encouraged by this map to explore Unknown areas of the map that haven't been touched since as early as 2009.
I enjoy the feeling of posting all my building updates and then refreshing the map to watch all the status' change.
-Charles Whipplebotum 21:46, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Comments (The Twotoes-Whipplebotum Malton Danger Center)

So the page is making my entire browser hang when I try to edit it to add {{FANom}} to it to indicate its candidacy. (Sorry for the inconvenience, anyone who was hanged (hung?) by me.) Can someone else put it up or is this a serious issue? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Apart from a few seconds loading time when loading the pages themselves (which is normal when you consider it calls on thousands and thousands of templates), I haven't noticed any inconveniences. I know Charles and me have worked on this project for a very long time, and it really feels good to see it blossom :) Nice lay-out, extremely useful and automatic updates, what more do you want? PB&J 20:53, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
I love it. I think it's one of the best new things to come to the wiki since I joined at the start of the year (at least). You two will forever be in my hall of fame of awesome. I just want us to work out the lagging issue before I can give a 100% in-favor. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:56, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
I've found that the Map is so big that it can't list all the templates being used if you select preview while editing. I've resorted to using User:Peralta/Map_Project as my 'preview' page before making changes on User:DangerReport/DangerCenter. Unless there's a trick to not display templates in use during the preview page I really don't see a way around the hang-time issue. I'd be in favor of protecting the big map from changes since it's the only one that has the hang-time trouble. All the pages that tweak this one can still be adjusted if need be. -Charles Whipplebotum 21:14, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

If it's going to be an FA, it needs to be more than it is now. It's a really great map as it is, but if there's been one thing we've been seeing with these nominations, it's that maps, tables of data, and pages containing raw facts are not what FA is apparently about. You need some explanation, analysis, usage information, or other details to make it a great article. This map needs to become more than it is now before it would be FA-ready (and the lag issues need to be fully explored too, since we don't want this thing getting too much attention if it really is lagging the wiki for everyone). That doesn't mean changing what it is. It means making what it is more evident to others. Aichon 21:07, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

I think the map is rather awesome and a congrats to the two creators. It lacks some of the utility that the TRP maps have. I consider it more an accomplishment of "look this is possible." Don't let my against vote take away from your work. I'm just here to complain not be useful. --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 22:47, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
I disagree. I think the map stands on its own. Sure, it could be used as a subsection in a different article, maybe one on the concept of the Dangermap system, its uses and limitations, and perhaps history, but that to me is a completely different article with a completely different focus. This article addresses a very specific topic --- the danger level of buildings in Malton --- and it addresses that topic quite well. Yeah, the page lags a little but that is because it is off the chain. -MHSstaff 01:41, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
I agree: that would be a different article entirely. That's why I explicitly stated that they should not do that. What I suggested was that they make it clearer what it already is. As it is, the title at the top provides no context, there's no text explaining what it is or how it's read/used, DangerReports aren't mentioned at all, and if someone was linked to it out of the blue, it's reasonable to believe that they not only would fail to realize that it was live-updating, they would also fail to understand where the data was coming from and that they would be able to contribute to the data themselves.
It needs to be a truer expression of what it already is. For instance, the MOB Locator is a map that stays true to itself while being more than just a map. I'm not suggesting we should turn this into the MOB Locator (that would be a horrible idea), but I am pointing out that you don't have to do full write-ups of histories, systems, concepts, and limitations in order to have something that's worth being featured. You just need something more than what's there now. Give it a nice intro, provide some instructions explaining how to read it, and then point people to the DangerReports so that they understand how to update the map themselves. That would all be inline with the spirit of this map, and it'd add the context that it's so-desparately missing right now. Aichon 04:55, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
Ah, ok. Gotcha. Yeah that makes a lot more sense. I think I read your first comment as this massive revamp / retooling where the map would play a small role (probably the word analysis). Adding a intro / functional description / how-to on usage are great ideas. -MHSstaff 16:42, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

No.For one reasons. The lack of building statuses updates in a timely fashion. Sure, TRPs are updated here and there, but what about the lesser noteworthy buildings like junkyards? Until building statuses receive more updates, a full suburb map that maps building statuses is quite pointless in my opinion. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:01, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

If the timeliness of updates is the main concern, is it really any less reliable than the current map system? It seems to me that if updating buildings would change the status of the map on a high profile resource, more people would update buildings rather than having edit wars over suburb danger level. I am just saying that I feel this solves more problems than it causes. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Friday, 2 November 2012
Can I ask what you mean by edit wars? I'm one of the (few) people who updates them regularly, and I haven't seen any such wars as long as I've been doing it (since the start of the summer). I update based on EMRPs, and always go with whatever the people "on the ground" have done as far as I can. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:21, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
This used to happen a lot in places like Whittenside. Someone says it is green, someone else says yellow, both revert the other's edits, someone gets tired of it flashing and changes it to a ghost town out of spite. That sort of thing. It is not as big of an issue as it used to be but I understand it still happens. The current system is a bit subjective in that respect.--Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Saturday, 3 November 2012

Taking everyone's suggestions into consideration, we've added some information to the page. -Charles Whipplebotum 22:01, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

To be a bit more precise: Added a description, indepth explanation of the different statuses and how to update, as well as some lay-out adjustments. PB&J 22:21, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
It's a start. I'd probably expand the Description section and would eliminate its header, that way it simply served as an intro, would remove the section at the end with the various danger levels, and would work the instructions into the actual description at the top, maybe as a quick bullet list, rather than having them afterwards in a small box. The instructions could also use some rewording, since I feel as if they're a bit vague at the moment. Overall, however, I think it's a step in the right direction. Aichon 22:26, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
The instructions are short and a bit vague, I know, but I can't really imagine people screwing it up all the time, since the actual instructions on how to update is on each and every status report page on the wiki ;) I think the expanded version of the statuses is useful: give a clear reference for the color charts. PB&J 22:31, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
I made some pretty big changes to the text and the style for the key. If you don't like the changes, feel free to revert them, but they're the sort of thing I was talking about. Aichon 00:04, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I must say that I love this resource. I am for it being a featured article only because I feel more people should know of it. Ideally though, I would rather see it as a prominent link linked in a visible way to the main map. I could even see it eventually getting sectioned by suburb and replacing the current map. The mosaic effect would have much the same functionality if the suburb separations were visible and the results would be less debatable. The mini maps on the suburb pages are a step in the right direction. Its strength is in its use as a diagnostic utility, but if featured article is the only current way to increase its profile, so be it. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Friday, 2 November 2012

Dumb question: Are the relative links required to make it work with the template limits? It would nice to have the option to transclude/whatever you call it the map in other pages. -MHSstaff 18:11, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

In truth, they could make them absolute links on the main map page. It's only within the templates themselves that relative links need to be used to conserve bytes. Aichon 18:27, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

This will probably sound like I'm needling and I've tried to think of a gentle way of saying it, but I'm not a fan of the name its been give. I understand that the two of you put a lot of work into it and you deserve recognition, but I think there are subtler ways to accomplish that. I think the lead in paragraph says enough (and perhaps even that should be more neutral) about the concept and creation and I'd remove the custom title and just leave it at Malton Danger Center. No hard feelings, I hope. ~Vsig.png 01:28, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

NO! IT'S A MANZIER! Honestly though, we've got credits listed on the map's talk page. I'm happy with that, personally. -Charles Whipplebotum 07:40, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
The main reason for me insisting on the name earlier in the project was that I saw big projects like these taken over by other people on similar wiki's, which left the original creators with nothing but the really bad feeling that they didn't do crap and that the few people who "finished" it did all the work. Charles and me got to finish what we started and it's time to let go of our little baby :) PB&J 00:36, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
We're all too lazy for that. :P Aichon 03:38, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
Should have guessed :P And to counter the "lack of updates" argument: this is a zombie survival game, perfect coverage is something you can never reach, black-outs in certain areas are only to be expected. PB&J 14:37, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

My view 100% mirrors A Schwan's above statement. A ZOMBIE ANT 09:38, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

I think it looks amazing now. -MHSstaff 22:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

It's been some time now, several people have given it attention and it caused more frequent status report updates ever since it went live. How can you not love it? :) PB&J 19:38, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

The hanging issue seems to have been fixed (as far as I can tell). The new text is great. But I think two objections still stand: the lack of frequent enough updates (brought up by Axe Hack) and the non-NPOV name (brought up by Vapor). Personally, I don't really agree with the first one (since the reports are updated surprisingly frequently, in no small part thanks to Charles, JT and their allies), but I do see the second as a sticking point. Is there a more neutral name that would work for you guys before this gets processed (more than likely as successful)? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:46, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
We already mentioned a while ago that changing it to Danger Center would be perfectly fine :) Concerning frequent updates: the city is filled with undead, I think a lack of updates in certain areas is just part of the entire theme. PB&J 19:52, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Ok, adjusted the title and opening sentence slightly. That look ok? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:14, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
*wipes away a tear* Yeah, yeah... I'm fine, just, you know, just give me a minute... PB&J 00:31, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Right you are Johnny, it looks much better now, after just a month! I imagine the exposure may have helped after all! A ZOMBIE ANT 05:43, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Verdict: Successful (archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 18:28, 4 December 2012 (UTC))


Don't know why I suddenly thought of this one. What can I say, there have been literally hundreds of survivor groups trying to reclaim places, but I've never seen one written up since Candyland. There's an interesting tactic buried in here, and it also contains some praise for the DEM. A better title would be nice. I think it's awesome, I think it's NPOV, (because it treats zombies as players and not "baddies") and MHS wrote the intro, so thats well written at least. --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 22:34, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Extending Discussion (see below). Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:04, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Please note that the name of the article is now 404 - Charge of the Life Brigade. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 16:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


For ross has a nice way with words and the article is informative (plus it seems survivors could use some help with thinking). --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 22:50, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Doesn't really do it for me. Dunno why, I think the formatting is a bit of a mess. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:44, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Probably is. You people and your differing resolutions Grr! Argh! *shaking fist* --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 00:57, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
I wouldn't be too quick to blame resolution, even though that would help a bit. I don't enjoy going down and having to navigate through the various centered and right-aligned templates of varying sizes and shapes. A bit offputting. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:27, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Hmm. Anyone have formatting suggestions? --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 16:22, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Looks beautiful and is very informative for the average (uneducated) survivor. For. PB&J 07:40, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Maybe give the feral mentality note a box? -MHSstaff 19:15, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

I think you dropped an "and" when you copied the intro from my space. You also seem to have couple of mistakes as well. For example, every quote from the article is from April but the mass CR attack is from June? Is that right? -MHSstaff 18:10, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll revisit that. --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 18:12, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

I like this article a lot. There are small minor grammar things like: spell out numbers under ten, especially when you are starting a sentence with a number, minor comma things, etc. I tried to fix some of them here. That said, it reads well, and assuming Rosslessness makes sure the timeline and dates are right, I would support this. -MHSstaff 19:13, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Dates and numbers modified. MHS, if you want to sort out the commas, that would be great. I'm away for a few days, but I'll look at the box for the feral mentality thing when I get back. --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 00:13, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Is this still being worked on, and if not, how do I process it? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:49, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Needs me to regrammar check, then post it through the MHS double check. DDR wants formatting changes, but hasn't said how. --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 17:47, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
No edits have been done since the 16th. I'm assuming this one succeeds? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Let me do another rewrite this week. --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 17:11, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Done, and moved out of namespace, so all you can edit it to your hearts content. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rosslessness (talkcontribs) at 16:38, 7 December 2012 in some time zone on Mars and Jupiter simultaneously.

Right. Now Fort 404 or the epic combat reviving article. Hmm.--Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 17:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Any more comments on this one or can I process it as successful? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:23, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Go for it. Any unspoken changes can be made later. --  AHLGTG 00:54, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Verdict: Successful (archived by User:Bob Moncrief at 16:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC))

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