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This page is for the request of page deletions within the Urban Dead wiki. Due to concerns about loss of data, the ability to delete pages is restricted to system operators. As such, regular users will need to request a deletion from the system operators. For consistency and accountability, system operators also adhere to the guidelines listed here.

[edit] Guidelines for Deletion Requests

All Deletion Requests must contain the following information in order to be considered:

  • A link to the page in question. Preferably bolded for visibility. Note that Category and Image links need a colon at the front to turn them into links (ie [[:Category:Category]] and [[:Image:Image.jpg]]).
  • A reason for deletion. This should be short and to the point.
  • A signed datestamp. This can be easily done by adding ~~~~ to the end of your request.

In addition to placing a request on this page, please place the {{delete}} tag on the top of the page that is being recommended for deletion. Please make sure that the original content remains on the page, so that others can judge whether the page is worthy of deletion.

Any deletion request that does not contain these three pieces of information will not be considered, and will be removed by a system operator.

Once the deletion request has been entered, the request shall remain on this page, where it will be voted on for a period of two (2) weeks, as judged by the initial datestamp. At the conclusion of this two weeks, the appropriate action will be taken by a system operator, and at the end of that day the request will be moved into the Archive.

Certain types of pages may be better being scheduled for deletion in order to reduce the amount of red tape and stop this page getting too cluttered. To lodge a request for scheduled deletions, head for UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Scheduling.

Deletion of pages that match a certain criteria may be better serviced by a request for a Speedy Deletion. Speedy Deletions are for removal of pages that are clearly of no value to the wiki, and do not incur the two week voting requirement. Speedy Deletion requests can be lodged at UDWiki:Administration/Speedy Deletions.

[edit] Speedy Deletion Eligibility

To be eligible for a Speedy Deletion Request, the page must fall under at least one of the following criteria:

  1. No Content: The page contains no more than a line or two of content that cannot clearly be expanded, consists of random or incoherent content, or is duplicated elsewhere to no purpose. Pages created by Spambots typically fall under this category.
  2. Off-Topic: The page is a clearly off-topic page.
  3. Unused Redirect: The page is an unused or underused (ie, only 1-2 pages using the link) redirect.
  4. Empty Category: The page is a Category page that has no entries within it.
  5. Missed Talk Page: The page is a Talk: Page from a previous deletion request that has not been deleted with the request (please note the relevant deletion request if this is so)
  6. Deletion Workaround: The page is a duplicate of a page that has been deleted from a previous deletion request (please note the relevant deletion request if this is so). A page that fits this criterion is immediately qualified for deletion without requiring it be nominated on the 'Speedy Deletions' page. Recreating a page that fits this criterion will get you a polite message to stop doing so. Any further infractions of this nature will qualify as vandalism and will be treated as such. Note that criterion 6 does not apply when the page has been restored through Undeletions.
  7. Author Edit Only: The page has been requested for speedy deletion by the original author, and has been edited only by its author. Note that edits by adbots or vandals and reverts caused by them do not count.
  8. User Page: The page is a User subpage that has been requested for speedy deletion by the original author.
  9. Personal Page (Prefix Rule): The page is named after a user without the "User:" or "Journal:" prefixes and its content has been moved to the appropriate User or Journal page. Includes pages that should be User subpages, ie. in-game characters.
  10. Unused Template: The page is a template that has existed for at least one week and is currently unused within the wiki.
  11. Non-existent User Page: The page is a User: page for a user that doesn't exist, and any content on the page has been moved to the appropriate User: or Journal: page.
  12. Defunct group page: The page is a non-historical group page, it is over two months old, it has not had an update in a month, and is not on the stats page. Such pages will remain in the queue for 5 days to determine their defunct status has been correctly identified. Due to the large number of pages that fit into this criterion, please {{speedydelete12}} on the pages to ensure that they are categorized differently from normal speedy deletion requests.
    As of 2007, September 16, this is no longer a valid criterion.
  13. Missed sub-page: The page is a sub-page from a previous deletion request that has not been deleted with the request, and that serves no individual purpose (please note the relevant deletion request).

[edit] Guidelines for Voting on Deletion Requests

  • One vote per user.
  • Voting should take place underneath the request, and each vote should be started with a
    #
    with no empty lines inbetween votes.
  • There are four vote types:
    • Delete. For agreement with the deletion request
    • Merge. For indication that the content on the page should be merged with another page (includes an implicit Delete).
    • Speedy Delete. For indication that the page meets one of the Speedy Deletions Criteria (includes an implicit Delete).
    • Keep. For disagreement with the deletion request.
  • The specific vote keyword should be bolded within the lodged vote. Any relevant comments are also allowed, but these should not be bolded.
  • At least one Delete vote must be entered by the deadline in order for a page to be deleted. System operators may not use their own vote after the deadline to delete a page.
  • If more Delete votes are entered than Keep votes, the page will be deleted. In any other circumstance, the page is kept.
  • If 3 Speedy Deletes are lodged, and there are no Keep Votes, the page will be deleted as per Speedy Deletions.


[edit] Deletion Queue

New deletion Requests should be placed at the top of the queue to preserve ordering.


[edit] Amusing_Locations_in_Malton/The_Arkham_Sisters

Has nothing to do with ALiM other than the fact that members of the same group that maintain the former edited the latter. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 06:42, 11 October 2008 (BST)

  1. Delete --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 06:42, 11 October 2008 (BST)
  2. Keep Incorrect, the Arkham Sisters are considered an ALiM themselves, being a location, and being amusing.--MichaelReadTalk BBK! ALiM 06:44, 11 October 2008 (BST)
  3. Keep. It's ours we can do what we want with it.--Nick? Club Head 18/10/08. Be there. 07:40, 11 October 2008 (BST)
  4. Keep - Bob is clearly trying to waste the communities time with this pointless A/D case.--J3DDesign the new ALiM Navbar!! 02:34, 12 October 2008 (BST)
  5. Keep As a sub page of ALiM it's customary to not delete subpages unless the primary is also deleted or unless requested by author. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 03:10, 12 October 2008 (BST)
    Conn, there is a cluster over in Arbies about this. It wasn't always under their space.--– Nubis 11:16, 12 October 2008 (BST)
  6. Keep As the other users. Linkthewindow Talk 03:46, 12 October 2008 (BST)

[edit] Amusing_Locations_in_Malton/Great_Fire_of_1912

Has nothing to do with ALiM other than the fact that members of the same group that maintain the former edited the latter. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 06:41, 11 October 2008 (BST)

This is borderline vandalism IMO, it's obvious bad faith--MichaelReadTalk BBK! ALiM 02:32, 12 October 2008 (BST)
What is?--Nick? Club Head 18/10/08. Be there. 02:35, 12 October 2008 (BST)
He's talking about putting the page up. /facepalm --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 02:46, 12 October 2008 (BST)


  1. Delete --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 06:42, 11 October 2008 (BST)
  2. Keep - Incorrect, the Great Fire of 1912 was an event created by the founders of the ALiM list. Its historical significance plays a role in many of the ALiM location descriptions, helping them tie together to seem more legit and a more interesting read.--MichaelReadTalk BBK! ALiM 06:43, 11 October 2008 (BST)
  3. Keep - Actually both these projects were created (and to a large degree managed) by the same group, furthermore the Great Fire page was created in relation to a variety of ALiM listed locations that mentioned the fire. Hence i feel being an alim subpage is quite a nice place for it to end up really.--J3DDesign the new ALiM Navbar!! 07:18, 11 October 2008 (BST)
  4. Keep. Ditto.--Nick? Club Head 18/10/08. Be there. 07:40, 11 October 2008 (BST)
  5. Keep As a sub page of ALiM it's customary to not delete subpages unless the primary is also deleted or unless requested by author. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 03:10, 12 October 2008 (BST)

[edit] User:Gotikplage

I would like my user page deleted. Thanks. --Gotikplage 06:19, 10 October 2008 (BST)

Any particular reason? Just curious. If you are planning on leaving the wiki you don't really have to have this deleted. You can leave it if you want to come back. --– Nubis 11:17, 12 October 2008 (BST)

[edit] Battle of ruddlebank

It isn't a battle. Just a Chicken Little claiming the sky is falling in Ruddlebank. (I didn't even know there was a Ruddlebank) --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 01:47, 3 October 2008 (BST)

  1. Delete --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 01:47, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  2. Delete. --Nick? Club Head 18/10/08. Be there. 02:05, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  3. Delete --/\Haliman/\ T | P! | W! 02:06, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  4. who cares So what if there is no battle? Edit the page to point out that its more of a skirmish but to delete just because you don't consider it a battle is a bit much. --Honestmistake 10:41, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    Keep - I agree, basically, with Sonny's assessment... However, the page is a couple of days old! Just let it be, for now, it's doing no harm. Later... in a few weeks... it might be worth revisiting. --WanYao 10:45, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    The creator seems to have little interest in taking the page seriously... I'm convinced it's almost certainly going to be deletion-worthy (prob. no cotent) -- down the road... But, again, it's like 2 or 3 days old, sheesh... --WanYao 20:39, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  5. Merge - Previous vote struck. This is a character journal. Therefore Merge with userspace. --WanYao 13:43, 6 October 2008 (BST)
  6. Keep - Like WanYao said - premature --Tselita 23:30, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    And you know about premature. Tell me, was being born premature the reason for you being retarded? --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 00:24, 6 October 2008 (BST)
  7. Delete - I was leaning towards agreeing with Wan, until i read day 2-nothing really much happened while i was out on patrol today. i saw a man getting attacked by 3 zombies, and while i was fighting another man joined in today and not only killed the last remaining zombie, but he also killed a dieing human. This is the central day in the battle! Zombie hordes should be breaking through the door! In times of battle outside scouting is not needed (or in times of peace for that matter). This is bullshit beyond even the imaginations of 2 Cool, the best group in all of yonder Malton! --J3DDesign the new ALiM Navbar!! 12:18, 6 October 2008 (BST)
  8. Delete - although it would be good if people could have a word with authors of such pages, before bringing it heere, and suggest they put such minor observations in personal "Journal:" pages instead -- boxy talk • i 13:42 6 October 2008 (BST)
    It was brought up on his talk page, boxy... --WanYao 15:11, 6 October 2008 (BST)
  9. Delete/Merge - Junk it or make it a userpage. --Papa Moloch 21:26, 6 October 2008 (BST)
  10. Delete - No content except for a template. Didn't even know there was a recent battle in Ruddlebank. Linkthewindow 03:14, 8 October 2008 (BST)
  11. Delete/Merge - Whatever happens, it shouldn't stay there. DanceDanceRevolution 08:11, 8 October 2008 (BST)
  12. Speedy - Crit 1. And... he cleared the page. -- AHLGTH 22:09, 8 October 2008 (BST)

[edit] The Mighty Republic of Lolz

what --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 13:38, 2 October 2008 (BST)

  1. Delete - what --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 13:38, 2 October 2008 (BST)
  2. Keep - Firstly, it's ALiM's birthday...how could you do that on someone's birthday? list's of amusing locations have feelings too you know. Secondly, this quaint nickname has historical context, see: Talk:Sandpit Revolution. --J3DDesign the new ALiM Navbar!! 13:41, 2 October 2008 (BST)
  3. Delete - What the fuck is this bullshit? Stop wasting our time.--Nick? Club Head 18/10/08. Be there. 13:43, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    Keep - Changed my mind!--Nick? Club Head 18/10/08. Be there. 13:44, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    Comments moved to talk page -- boxy talk • i 09:00 6 October 2008 (BST)
  4. Delete - Serves no purpose, as it's not linked anywhere.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 14:40, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    Comments moved to talk page -- boxy talk • i 09:00 6 October 2008 (BST)
  5. Delete - and Bob, ffs get your /b/ quotes off of the UD wiki. Some of us here frequent that particular image board and feel saddened at your newfaggotry.--MichaelReadTalk BBK! ALiM 15:15, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    Comments moved to talk page -- boxy talk • i 09:00 6 October 2008 (BST)
  6. Delete - Crit 2, 3. -- AHLGTH 19:07, 2 October 2008 (BST)
  7. Delete - As above. --WanYao 19:44, 2 October 2008 (BST)
  8. Delete - senseless redirect. --PdeqTalk* 07:03, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  9. Delete - Birthday's over, it's served its purpose. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 07:14, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    Comments moved to talk page -- boxy talk • i 09:00 6 October 2008 (BST)
  10. Delete--Hal-i-man-111 03:21, 8 October 2008 (BST)

[edit] UZM

Crit 2 - off topic page. The original page this redirected to -- United Zombies of Malton -- has been deleted. And Crit 3 - unused redirect. The redirect leads to something called the Urban Dead Zombie Portal which = UDZM, not UZM. Ergo: unused, and off-topic, redirect... --WanYao 05:30, 30 September 2008 (BST)

  1. Keep - As pointed out elsewhere, the tool's URL is still http://uzm-urbandead.com/, and as Urban Dead Zombie Portal is practically the same page as United Zombies of Malton (mainly just renamed), pointing the redirect there makes a considerable amount of sense. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 07:12, 30 September 2008 (BST)
  2. Keep - For the same reasons as Midianian. -- Cheese WTF!RandomSysOp? 19:21, 30 September 2008 (BST)
  3. Delete - this is just a backdoor way to keep the "United Zombies of Malton" thing alive. The arbitration case made it clear that the page has nothing to do with any United zombie groupings, so the acronym referring to them as being united should go too -- boxy talk • i 04:11 1 October 2008 (BST)
    The acronym UZM is in the url, in what sense does this keep the term "United" alive? It was Urbandead to start with, a collector for my online UD experiments.--Zeug 06:32, 1 October 2008 (BST)
  4. Delete - As boxy. --WanYao 05:13, 1 October 2008 (BST)
  5. Keep - as Midianian. The url of the tool makes this a valid redirect. No one EVER HAS TO KNOW that UZM once stood for "United Zombies of Malton." If it was a redirect from the words "United Zombies of Malton," yeah, you'd have a case. But it isn't. --Jen 05:57, 1 October 2008 (BST)
  6. Keep - I chose uzm in the domain precisely because it's neutral and UZM is Urbandead Zombies Malton. Don't you have anything better to do wan? Like school or something? --Zeug 06:21, 1 October 2008 (BST)
  7. Keep - yeah nah.--J3DDesign the new ALiM Navbar!! 07:55, 1 October 2008 (BST)
  8. keep for Crom's sake Wan there is nothing wrong with the content and your issue is with what is on the external site it links to. Just drop the vendetta already. --Honestmistake 11:52, 1 October 2008 (BST)
  9. Keep, because of the url. - User:Whitehouse 11:44, 2 October 2008 (BST)
  10. Delete - KIRRU~ --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 11:46, 2 October 2008 (BST)
  11. Keep - The URL is justice enough, as well as any old users looking for the page. Linkthewindow 03:18, 8 October 2008 (BST)
  12. Keep--Hal-i-man-111 03:21, 8 October 2008 (BST)

[edit] Recent Actions

[edit] Reductio_ad_absurdum

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Reductio_ad_absurdum

Group has not been active since 2006. If this group falls under as a historic item. As a new group with the abreviations RAD has been formed. I would like for RAD to link to our new page. Also to be honest, this is all new to me. So if I need to be reached. Please send an email to Robert_weidner@hotmail.com. Thanks. Dr Robert Weidner 23:29, 15 September 2008 (BST)

  1. Keep - The reasoning for deleting this is absurd. RAD can be changed there but no one can help you without knowing the new group.--Karekmaps?! 02:16, 16 September 2008 (BST)
  2. Keep - and make RAD a disambiguation if you want. --PdeqTalk* 06:05, 16 September 2008 (BST)
  3. Keep - take RAD, no one will complain - but this group's page is staying.--J3DDesign the new ALiM Navbar!! 08:42, 16 September 2008 (BST)
  4. Keep - we don't delete old groups. however, yes, you can take the redirect, that's fine. --WanYao 18:53, 17 September 2008 (BST)
  5. Keep - As above. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 01:47, 23 September 2008 (BST)

Kept -- AHLGTH 18:35, 30 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] United Zombies of Malton

This does not belong on the wiki in its current form, for the following reasons.

And, yes, this is complicated, and I thank you for your time in dealing with it properly.

  1. This page duplicates information already freely available on the wiki. To see what I mean, select a group, connect to the external website/portal, and you will see that link you are taken to is dominated by a frame containing that group's wiki page
  2. The page is misleading and deceptive. Specifically, if you click on a link to one of the groups you can see a chatbox and various other pieces of information that make it seem as if you're actually connected with and talking to members of the group in question. This, however, is not the case: these interal links/chatboxes, etc. -- as well as the links provided off the UZM page -- are solely the creation and province of zeug and Extinction. Meanwhile, these groups have their own metagaming "infrastructures" and neither need nor desire to be part of this one.
  3. The page is misleading and deceptive in another way: its very name, as well as its structure, implies "alliance" or "association" between the included groups -- as well as actual consent to be included -- where no such thing exists. The exact contrary is, in fact, the case (see below).
  4. At least 4 groups -- the RRF, MOB, Hambargar Halparz and Infected Swarm (the first two being among the top 4 player groups in UD for overall membership) have asked to be removed from this page / list. These requests have been patently dismissed and ignored by zeug/extinction. Because these large groups -- representing a significant portion of the zombie metagame community -- are in no way connected to the project, and do not wish for any connection to be even implied, any perceived connection is highly problematic, misleading, disingenuous, and not at all in good faith.
  5. Now... let's be blunt... In effect, despite claims to the contrary, the UZM is an Extinction propaganda project. It is hosted by zeug/extinction, as can be seen by the browser icons when you connect with the portal. It does not represent any "united zombie" umbrella (as explained) -- in fact a number of major "players" in the zombie community have clearly expressed their displeasure with being listed and associated with this tool. Thus, it is disingenuous, to say the least, to represent it as anything different -- or to present it as merely an "open player resource". --WanYao 18:50, 22 September 2008 (BST)


  1. Delete - As above. --WanYao 18:50, 22 September 2008 (BST)
    Discussion moved to talk
  2. Delete - As above. --Papa Moloch 18:58, 22 September 2008 (BST)
  3. Keep Speedy Delete (Zeug 21:08, 28 September 2008 (BST)) - 1. The UZM Zombie Portal provides a service to the whole community both survivor and zombie by collecting info that is widely dispersed across the wiki and providing an easy open access point.
    - 2. This is my project and independent of Extinction which is treated the same way as the others and included. Some groups do use the shoutboxes and I usually give them the cbox admin pass to control it themselves, the Undeadites are an example.
    - 3. The inclusion of barhah.com is in the interests of providing a full coverage of the UD Zombie-verse.
    - 4. It is both for zeds to use, as some do, and for others to browse, including any interested survivors. The inactive shoutboxes are there for tourists to chat, or they could be used by a survivor group who may wish to track the MoB for instance.
    - 5. It was built over a year ago, and since the main problem here seems to be the term 'United' I could redirect the page to something like UZM Zombie Portal and change the logo. --Zeug 19:22, 22 September 2008 (BST)
  4. Delete - Extinction in a popular vote situation? Goodbye page, so long, farewell! -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE 20:58, 22 September 2008 (BST)
  5. Keep and Edit? - I'm new to this whole wiki vote/edit war thing...but...if iwitness and other tools like that can have wiki pages, I don't see why this can't have one. There's four zombie groups that DO use the thing, along with the four that want nothing to do with it. It's a resource out there, and it's being used. Most of your issues are with the browser itself, NOT the wiki page that is, at the moment, pretty accurately describing said browser. --Jen 21:07, 22 September 2008 (BST)
    Discussion moved to talk
  6. Delete - --Jorm 21:16, 22 September 2008 (BST)
  7. Delete - If for no other reason than because several groups have asked that their names be removed from it, and the author is refusing to do so - the groups should have the final say on whether or not their names are used on this, and that should be respected by the author. --Target Practice 21:51, 22 September 2008 (BST)
  8. Delete - Im too lazy to come up with an actual reason here, because i just woke up and such so im just typing some random ramblings in here so it looks like i have some kind of reason, which i do but cant think of in my present sleep addled state. I might edit this later to add a reason, but i might not. Who knows? --The Grimch U! E! 00:43, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  9. Delete - As above. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 01:47, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  10. Delete - As above and below. (AKA I don't feel like saying why). LemonHead7t7 *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡*̡͌l̡* Talk/PDA/Red Rum/TSoE/MOB/MCDU/DORIS 05:42, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  11. Mostly Keep The shoutboxes should most certainly go but as long as the rest of the page continues to bear the very clear "we are not affiliated and have no reale connection" type disclaimers its perfectly reasonable and useful stuff!--Honestmistake 10:18, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    This has become a witch hunt. The page has clear disclaimers on it and this whole Wiki is supposed to be an information tool for the game, so long as there is no misleading or POV statements on the page it is nothing more than a community page that links to useful info. The actual tool is not a Wiki page and so does not fall under our remit to alter or delete so its pointless arguing. Oh and the whole "united" bit of the name being misleading is a red herring... you might as well try banning the Feral undead because not all Ferals are part of them or the Dead because not all of the dead are... well, Dead! --Honestmistake 10:18, 24 September 2008 (BST)
  12. Keep Pretty much the same as Honestmistake. People are failing badly at seeing that this page does not claim that the groups are part of this, it just says that this tool will provide easy access to things related to those groups, such as forums, wiki pages, and so on. The only thing I see that is bad is not even on the wiki page, it's part of the tool. And that is the shoutboxes (as mentioned above) that claim to belong to the group, and the text prior to the link to donations that claims that said group supports Urban Dead. - User:Whitehouse 10:52, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Well some of the shoutboxes ARE the zed groups, others have fallen out of use and the rest are there for anyone to use to talk about the zed group. As for the link to Kevan's donation site you'll notice the button link includes the groups name in it so if someone donates via the MoB button the link is http://urbandead.com/donate.html#MoB which benefits not only Kevan but ... the MoB. I could remove that easily enough but keep the bare 'donate' button. And for the shoutboxes maybe I could indicate which browsers are in use and which are for tourists? This is all getting wonderfully complicated.--Zeug 11:31, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  13. Delete - there was every opportunity to be reasonable about this, and remove groups that didn't want to be associated with it, and those shoutboxes are way out of order. It implies that people are actually contacting the groups in question when they use them. While some groups may use them as intended, those who want no part of this project should not need to monitor "their" shoutbox, on an extinction site, to ensure they arn't being misrepresented -- boxy talk • i 14:08 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Discussion moved to talk
  14. Keep - as far as I can tell, this is an edit war, not a case for deletion. We're setting a poor precedent on this wiki if a page can be deleted just because the person who created it is not well liked and apparently heavily resistant to compromise. Surely any decision about the content of the page needs to be sorted out in arbitration. This looks a lot like mob justice. Poor show. --Funt Solo QT 15:47, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Yes. Especially given comments like, "Your best bet is to just put the page up for deletion and mass meatpuppet it away with your superior numbers." --Jen 17:56, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  15. Delete - For the reasons WanYao listed. --Jasonjason 16:47, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Heh, that would be a double Barhah Barhah whammy? Hands up all those affiliated with barhah.com! Wan? You guys are hilarious. --Zeug 17:02, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Yeah, what of it? I'm in the RRF, and I'm glad we aren't associated with Extinction in any way. Don't make it look like we are. --Jasonjason 23:26, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  16. Delete - As Target Practice. Unrelated groups who want to be removed should be.--Drawde Talk To Me! DORIS Red Rum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing! 17:31, 23 September 2008 (BST) Keep - Reading Funts post, I too believe an Arbitration case may settle this easier.--Drawde Talk To Me! DORIS Red Rum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing! 15:33, 24 September 2008 (BST)
    That's a problem with the browser, not the wiki page. The wiki page lists all those groups because the browser "covers" all those groups. Deleting the wiki page will do NOTHING to help that matter. --Jen 18:03, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  17. Delete - The CRF is on the list and is not even around anymore. Most of the groups there aren't around or don't want to be on the list. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 18:30, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  18. Keep - As Funt, arbitration is under way. -- AHLGTH 18:34, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  19. Delete - as above. --Ropponmatsu 19:08, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  20. Delete - Liche 19:23, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  21. Delete - I really hate the way this thing poses as being associated with The MOB. IT's NOT -- Grogh 19:30, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Discussion moved to talk
  22. Delete - IF information on this external tool should be on the Wiki at all, it should be on the External Links page, not on a page all its own. --Visible One 19:36, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Iwitness, Malton Map, Malton Meta Tactical Map? - User:Whitehouse 20:10, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    All useful information on this tool can be summed up in an extremely brief section on External Links, unlike those various tools, pages and the external program. Not only that, each of your examples are at least mentioned on External Links anyway. UZM's page isn't.--Visible One 21:22, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  23. Delete - --Amber Waves of Pain 19:44, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  24. Delete - As per mentions already beaten to death. -- Murray Jay Suskind 21:27, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  25. Delete - Although if the links to the groups wanting to be removed to avoid implied endorsement of this tool were actually removed, I would consider withdrawing my vote. - Bisfan 21:58, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    And having looked at it now, the shoutbox for MOB certainly doesn't look like it has any conversation related to what I see in the MOB's IRC, and in fact the nature of the conversation I did see was such that I'd be embarrassed to have the MOB, or the Halparz (RIP) associated with it. - Bisfan 21:58, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  26. Keep - Your problem is not with the wikipage (which merely describes the tool), it's with the tool itself. Deleting the wikipage will not fix the problem. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 22:23, 23 September 2008 (BST)
  27. Keep - If the page belongs to one group, move it to their namespace. If you have issues with some of the content on it, deal with it in arbitration. Nothing making it delete-worthy. --PdeqTalk* 00:11, 24 September 2008 (BST)
  28. Delete - The page misrepresents itself in a fundamental way, clearly the zombies of malton aren't united at all in this. --RichterFury 01:59, 24 September 2008 (BST)
    Discussion moved to talk
  29. Keep and Edit - If a zombie group such as the RRF wants to be removed from the page, remove them. If the rest of the groups don't have any problem with it, I don't see why the whole page should be deleted. --JaredV 02:16, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  30. Delete - I really don't understand whats so difficult about deleting the groups on the list off, but since the groups representatives can't do it and the people who made the page won't do it then other actions have to be taken. This is complete and utter BS, the solution is simple and we wouldn't have to go through this if someone just took the groups who didn't like it off the site and the page. Since none of them were even ASKED in the first place if they wanted to be on it or not. --Zoey Zarg 19:54, 25 September 2008 (BST)
  31. Keep - Sorry but this doesn't seem like a deletion case. Funt is right, play out the arbies. If Cheese makes the wrong call (i can't see how it can go any way but forcing the delete) then try me again.--J3DDesign the new ALiM Navbar!! 01:56, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  32. Keep - god the pettiness of this wiki sometimes--Kristi of the Dead 06:59, 26 September 2008 (BST)
  33. Keep - so we're deleting groups because they annoy us now? if so... Dulston Alliance--Image:Emot-pervert.gifSister Anne Simpson thinks you need more JesusImage:Emot-pervert.gif 09:15, 26 September 2008 (BST)
    No one is trying to delete Extinction, or the Extinction Alliance or any such. No... this is about deleting a page which is not a group, and which is fundamentally misleading on many levels. Or, as I have defined it before, "a technologically adept form of impersonation". --WanYao 09:09, 27 September 2008 (BST)
  34. Keep - As above. A lot of above. Prolly some below as well, too soon to tell. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 09:23, 26 September 2008 (BST)
    So ... can I delete and redirect yet as per the Arbitration case? As the original page author I'd like to request a speedy deletion. --Zeug 21:04, 28 September 2008 (BST)
  35. Delete - KIRRU~ --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 21:05, 28 September 2008 (BST)
  36. Delete --Mightyoak 01:24, 29 September 2008 (BST)
  37. Delete - Mahb bahz zambah zahz "z!z !z ah nah-nah" ahn ah agrah DeadBetty 01:35, 29 September 2008 (BST)


According to the arbitration ruling, "The UZM page shall be deleted and replaced with a page omitting any mention of the "United Zombies of Malton" naming it simply Urban Dead Zombie Portal" the page will be deleted. If there is anything that needs to be salvaged from it, do so now. -- AHLGTH 22:39, 28 September 2008 (BST)

Arbitration binds only those users involved and cannot override standard wiki process. As Jorm or Zeug cannot delete the page, to delete it circumvents this process and as such is an unenforceable section of that ruling. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE 22:49, 28 September 2008 (BST)
Interesting, well as original page author I'm fine with and requesting a speedy deletion, not that it matters I guess. I've completed the other arbitration rulings for the new UZM and this page can be deleted at the wiki's pleasure.--Zeug 00:01, 29 September 2008 (BST)
Yeah, I'm sorry... but I don't see how the Arby case can call for the deletion of a page... and in doing so, override this process -- which began before the Arbitration was filed, and is completely independent of it. There is a problem here... But it's not my problem, b/c I am involved solely in this Deletion request, not the Arby. --WanYao 15:13, 29 September 2008 (BST)
Nothing to do with Krazy's arbitration wan apart from it makes this entire deletions thread completely superfluous ... most especially if the page author has changed his vote to Speedy Deletion! We can wait til next week if need be but isn't this exercize now a complete waste of wiki resources? Why bother? --Zeug 19:24, 29 September 2008 (BST)
I might as well play it safe and leave it for now. It'll be deleted soon anyways. -- AHLGTH 21:33, 29 September 2008 (BST)

Seriously, what is wrong with you people? You all go "forum shopping" posting this on deletions and arbitration then complain when you get two conflicting results? What did you think was going to happen? Personally, I think the arbitration decision should stand over this deletion voting because both the author and the community had an equal opportunity to voice their concerns. Voting always runs the risk of meat/sock puppets while discussion and discourse are more fair. And if in this instance you all decide that the policy/procedure should trump the compromise and discussion of arbitration then you will be basically saying "We don't want to think for ourselves. We want to be slaves to policy." I know arby's is "broken", but it is the best system we have that tries to be fair and balanced. By saying that wiki procedure trumps a legitimate arbitration then we might as well post Arby's on this page next to UZM. --– Nubis 21:48, 29 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Cult of Reathxia

A group that does not actually exist, nor does it have anyhing to do with the person it refers to. The page was created by a member of the Cult of the Stuffed Crocodile to mock an enemy, Reathxia, who has nothing to do with this group. All of this is apparent from reading the page and consulting the (rejected) speedydeletion request. --WanYao 12:24, 6 September 2008 (BST)

  1. Delete - As above. --WanYao 12:25, 6 September 2008 (BST)
  2. Delete --PdeqTalk* 18:24, 7 September 2008 (BST)
  3. Delete -- AHLGTH 22:39, 7 September 2008 (BST)
  4. Delete --Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 05:10, 8 September 2008 (BST)
  5. Keep - Just because I'm against anything that Izumi Orimoto asks for. --Stephen Colbert DFA 21:00, 18 September 2008 (BST)
  6. Keep – Diskspace = cheep, parody/satire is a valid form of expression, and the stated reasons of the speedy deletion request's propagator go better with salt. —[Revenant] [Hey, you!] [Cades] AU 01:31, 19 September 2008 (BST)
  7. keep what possible reason could there be to delete this? It's not especially funny but its not particularly offensive either. --Honestmistake 10:46, 19 September 2008 (BST)
    It's a pointless mock group. The supposed leader in the game isn't even a member of the group, but is of the Church of Reathxia. -- AHLGTH 18:01, 19 September 2008 (BST)
    It's not a real group. It's not even a wiki group. It's spam. If you want to keep it -- which is legitimate, I suppose -- then it should be merged with either the its creator's User-space, or merged as a subpage of whatever uninteresting group propounded the "satire" -- in this case some lizard cossplayers? --WanYao 20:34, 19 September 2008 (BST)
    If you merge it then it becomes part of that group's namespace and therefore their property. It's never good to give people control over third party satires of themselves. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE 22:59, 19 September 2008 (BST)
    He's not saying that the page should be transferred into the satarised persons group or user space, it should be in the creators space, somewhere (I just cant tell who created it since the history wipe has... wiped that history) -- boxy talk • i 16:39 20 September 2008 (BST)
    As far as I was aware, it's from the Cult of the Stuffed Crocodile... But the very fact that we don't even know for certain who created it is even more reason to just delete it. --WanYao 08:20, 22 September 2008 (BST)
  8. Delete --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 19:34, 19 September 2008 (BST)
  9. Keep - St. Iscariot GC PK WTE 20:08, 19 September 2008 (BST)
    Delete - lame -- boxy talk • i 16:39 20 September 2008 (BST) Late. -- AHLGTH 21:36, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Keep - Other groups make fake parody pages. And... what Revenant said. --Tselita 16:54, 20 September 2008 (BST) Late. -- AHLGTH 21:36, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Such as? Such as Red Rum fake DK13 "Martial Law" page, for example? (I CBA to find it, maybe someone else will...) Guess what? That was made a subpage of Red Rum... Which is exactly what this should be: a subpage of the group/user who made it. Barring that possibility, it should be deleted. --WanYao 08:22, 22 September 2008 (BST)
    Keep - as a prolific author of parody pages myself (though mine are more funny) - I see this as the beginning of a slippery slope of critical commentary guiding wiki inclusion. Let it be unless there's some real reason to kill it.--Sarah Silverman 19:54, 22 September 2008 (BST) Late. -- AHLGTH 21:36, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Keep - As above. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 01:47, 23 September 2008 (BST) Late. -- AHLGTH 21:36, 23 September 2008 (BST)

There were some votes that were late, so the final result is 5 deletes and 4 keeps. Deleted. -- AHLGTH 21:36, 23 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Umbrella Influence Zone

By mistake this page became a duplicate of another one. It was my creation and this deletion has my permission (is it even needed..), so no voting needed. Please delete.--MisterGame 20:36, 22 September 2008 (BST)

EDIT: Oh, I think this qualifies for speedy deletion.--MisterGame 20:41, 22 September 2008 (BST)

  1. Delete - Crit 7 please. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE 20:59, 22 September 2008 (BST)
  2. Speedy - Yep, it does. -- AHLGTH 21:06, 22 September 2008 (BST)
  3. Speedy - Indeedy. -- Cheese WTF!RandomSysOp? 21:11, 22 September 2008 (BST)

Speedily deleted. -- AHLGTH 21:19, 22 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] SGP Violators

As Sacred Ground Policy Breakers below: imprimatur of official authority, no standard of proof, no redemption policy, defamatory, subject to abuse with no recourse, blah blah blah. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 16:41, 29 August 2008 (BST)

Long past two weeks. Can we get a ruling? -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 18:59, 15 September 2008 (BST)
Delete this, please. --WanYao 18:52, 17 September 2008 (BST)
  1. Delete - Like I said. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 16:41, 29 August 2008 (BST)
  2. Delete - As above, and below. --WanYao 16:53, 29 August 2008 (BST)
  3. Delete —[Revenant] [Hey, you!] [Cades] AU 18:04, 29 August 2008 (BST)
  4. Delete - haha the list of 5 "brain rotters, who wait at cemeteries" made me smile :) --J3DDesign the new ALiM Navbar!! 01:30, 30 August 2008 (BST)

Deleted -- AHLGTH 18:57, 17 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Sacred Ground Policy Breakers

This page is terrible. I have no problem with the wiki being used to keep lists of violators of ANY policy regardless of it's support or whatever, hell i don't even care if people keep hit lists of a random group of people with no connection. What's dodgy about this page is that its a community list rather than a private group's kill list which gives it a sense of officialness and of course there is no proof requirement which means anyone can add anyone to the list and have community think they are ZOMGZ RPKER!! This page simply shouldn't exist.--J3DDesign the new ALiM Navbar!! 14:13, 29 August 2008 (BST)

Long past two weeks. Can we get a ruling? -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 18:59, 15 September 2008 (BST)
Delete this, too, please. --WanYao 18:52, 17 September 2008 (BST)
  1. Delete - You know what? J3D is right, this page is bullshit. It's defamatory... but since no one runs this, it's associated with no group... therefore it's "community"... I can't trash talk someone specifically on any other community page, so why here? And, it doesn't require any evidence. And, there is no maintenance or scheduling people for deletion or anything. It's just useless, defamatory, speculative, non-NPOV, I mean there is nothing redeeming. This page should just go. --WanYao 15:05, 29 August 2008 (BST)
  2. Move - I would normally agree, because you are both quite right... But I feel for those that put the effort into making such a page... So I suggest contacting the creators of the page, finding their asssociated groups and creating a group subpage. Either that or a user subpage. I know it seems impossible, so basically, if the above can't be done, I think deletion is the only option. Apologies for my idealistic (rather than realistic) vote. DanceDanceRevolution 15:16, 29 August 2008 (BST)
  3. Delete - I've never paid much attention to this page, or its similar counterpart SGP Violators because of the lack of proof required and because meh, headshots at RPs are simply more evidence of trenchitude in Malton. And realistically there are too damn many people on this list to add them to contacts, and who's gonna check against this list when evaluating a revive candidate? Additionally, I see people I know on this list, probably for putting down rotter squatters since I know for a fact they respect SGP -- so yeah, defamatory. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 16:36, 29 August 2008 (BST)
  4. Delete —[Revenant] [Hey, you!] [Cades] AU 18:04, 29 August 2008 (BST)

Deleted -- AHLGTH 18:57, 17 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Page no longer needed

Area_51/Alpha_Squad that page is no long needed because Alpha squad has been dissbanded in Area 51 and it is not going to be needed because we will keep all squad stuff on our forums and the Area 51 wiki page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Fanglord2 (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Err...i was gonna A/SD this for him but i can't see what crit it is. It's almost a 7 coz it's his page but other group people have edited it.--J3DDesign the new ALiM Navbar!! 01:35, 30 August 2008 (BST)
  1. Speedydelete - The group's regular wiki editor requested it, and although others in the group have edited the page in the past, I think this should fit into the spirit of crit 7, given that the "page owner" is the group, and they're the only "one" to edit it (or care) -- boxy talk • i 14:53 11 September 2008 (BST)
  2. Speedy - As Boxy. -- Cheese WTF!RandomSysOp? 16:25, 11 September 2008 (BST)
  3. Speedy - If you define "owner" as the group and the group's primary editor as an appropriate representative for the group, this is a clear Crit 7. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 19:17, 13 September 2008 (BST)

Speedily deleted. -- AHLGTH 19:26, 13 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Talk:Suggestions

EDIT: So nice to see that policy doesn't matter on this page, too. I would hate A/VB to be the only Admin page that gets that privilege. Once the deletion request has been entered, the request shall remain on this page, where it will be voted on for a period of two (2) weeks, -- #99 DCC 23:55, 8 September 2008 (BST)

Crit 1 and Crit 2. Nothing good ever comes out of this page. It has no content beyond amusing trolling and butthurt fucking pubbies that can't be bothered to read the posting rules of the page and then get all pissed when their suggestions are duped. Most of the suggestions that have actually made it into Peer Reviewed this year were not worked on on Talk:Suggestions because the poster actually thought about the idea and has experience with the game. This page should be deleted. Come on! You know you want to!!-- #99 DCC 15:26, 8 September 2008 (BST)

  1. Delete--- #99 DCC 15:28, 8 September 2008 (BST)
  2. Delete -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE 17:13, 8 September 2008 (BST)
  3. Keep - If you don't like the page, don't read it. --PdeqTalk* 17:17, 8 September 2008 (BST)
    Merge - Should be subpage of trenchcoater. Because, contrary to DCC's statement, most good ideas are actually posted here first -- because smart suggestors prefer to consult with other smart suggestors. However, these suggestors have other ways of communicating, whether because of their wiki knowledge or metagaming contacts. Meanwhile, the bulk of the page belongs as a subpage of trenchcoater wiki. --WanYao 17:33, 8 September 2008 (BST)
  4. Keep - My now serious vote on this legitimate deletions request. I think Talk:Suggestions is a joke. But let's have a policy debate on the whole Suggestions system. This deletions request -- while little different than, say, SGP Violators below, and thus a valid request -- is a bit disingenuous. --WanYao 20:39, 8 September 2008 (BST)
  5. Keep - Even if it were true that most reviewed suggestions didn't go through Talk:Suggestions, I'm pretty sure that most of the suggestions that got spaminated or duped didn't go through Talk:Suggestions either. Which is to say that it's doing a fine job of keeping dupes and the completely retarded suggestions out of the main system. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 17:46, 8 September 2008 (BST)
    Midianian, many of the spaminated and duped suggestions were posted on Talk:Suggestions and the posters on there told them it was a bad idea but the author went ahead and posted it anyway. One word: NAILGUN. Everything she posted on Talk:Suggestions she went right ahead and posted as a real one no matter what the comments were. -- #99 DCC 23:54, 8 September 2008 (BST)
    Aw, DCC remembers me. Actually there were a lot of people who liked Nailgun. It was mainly your 'guys' who didn't. And even with the sockpuppeters who ruined it, it still had over 50 Keeps. Get over it DCC --Tselita 14:12, 19 September 2008 (BST)
  6. Keep or indeed Humourous. Justified. But it needs fixing. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:57, 8 September 2008 (BST)

Humourous - The Suggestions pages are an innate part of the wiki, it's one of the reasons why this wiki exists. It's here for an easy place for Kevan to look at ideas and not answer thousands of email suggestions. Please don't waste everyone's time. This is almost as ridiculous as putting deletions up for deletions. -- AHLGTH 19:06, 8 September 2008 (BST)

Wasting everyone's time? What the fuck do you actually do around here AHLG? -- #99 DCC 23:54, 8 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Wrongly Organised pages

The follow pages are Shades of malton pages, but were not filed under Shades of malton.
I have changed the links, for example the S.R.R.T. link is now filed under SoM like:
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Shades_of_malton/S.R.R.T.

These are the pages that now need to be deleted due to them being empty and not needed, thankyou.

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Home_Defense_Unit
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/S.R.R.T.
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Rover

Any issues? please contact me.


Skinny Bones Jones Write me. 20:32, 26 August 2008 (BST)

  1. Speedy Not exactly crit 7, but Definitely crit 1. Conndrakamod TTBA CFT 03:43, 27 August 2008 (BST)
  2. Speedy --Toejam 10:29, 27 August 2008 (BST)
  3. Speedy —[