UDWiki:Open Discussion/Welcome templates
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The templates {{Welcomenewbie}} and {{Welcomenewbie?}} are the most useless potentially useful templates on the wiki. The reasoning for this should be obvious - they are bloated and unwieldy, having general advice that newbies will either never read, or will find useless and redundant. The {{Welcomenewbie}} is by far the worst in this regard, although {{Welcomenewbie?}} could also do with a lot of streamlining too.
So to summarize, both templates are too big, too wordy, and too useless.
Fixing this mess
The best course of action is to streamline and simplify the templates. Cut out all the crap that isn't relevant to newbies or not. I propose that we move away from the complex and heavy templates seen above, to something more like the welcome templates used on Wikipedia. These templates aren't too demanding on the reader's time, are simple, and provide a lot of hyperlinks for further help. Here's the template at Wikipedia. Here's how I propose adaptation for the UD Wiki.
In other words, we go from this:
Hi Open Discussion/Welcome templates! As we can see, you made your first edits to this wiki not long ago. It's OK to be new, and we encourage new blood to join and enrich our community. At the same time, we understand that no one is a perfect wiki editor straight off the bat, and, just in case you get stuck, here're some useful tips to help you out. Please take the time to read them.
| General Editing |
Further help for editing the wiki can be found on the Help page. |
| Project Mentor |
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Project Mentor has been set up to allow new wiki users to have a more experienced wiki veteran mentor them for the first few weeks. Visit its page for more information! |
| Your User Page |
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One of the great things about the wiki is that every user can have his or her own user page! These pages are located in the User: namespace — in other words, they all begin with "User:" (yours is User:Open Discussion/Welcome templates). The appropriate place to write about yourself or your characters is on your user page, or a subpage of that page (e.g., User:Open Discussion/Welcome templates/Your Character's Name). Please don't create pages about yourself outside the User: namespace. Those pages will be moved into subpages of your user page, and the original speedily deleted. If you want something to be deleted, use the speedy deletion page; that's why Criterion 7 was made. |
| User Talk Pages |
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Every user has a talk page, found by clicking the "discussion" link at the top of his or her user page, or by going directly to it (yours would be User talk:Open Discussion/Welcome templates). If you have a question for someone, or want to say something to him or her, his or her user talk page is the place. However, many users on the wiki have established specific guidelines for how their user talk pages are to be treated — where new comments should go, how they should be written, what is or is not okay to talk about, etc. Be sure to look for guidelines on the talk page before you leave a comment. If you don't see any guidelines specified, the assumption is that you should place your comment at the bottom of the talk page, under a level 2 heading. This can be accomplished by clicking the "+" link next to the "edit" tab at the top of the talk page, or by manually typing in your message in this format: ==Message title==
Your message goes here When replying to a comment already laid on the page, remember to indent it correctly: do it by inserting as many colons plus one to the message you're replying to at the begining of your message, like this: ==Message title==
Your message :User's reply ::Your reply |
| The Suggestions Page |
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We know that as a new user, you want to share your ideas with us. But a community as big as ours has already seen all kind of suggestions, and it's possible that we've already seen something very similar to the ideas you have. Follow these simple guidelines to make sure that your suggestion gets the respect that it deserves:
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| Additional Contacts |
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If there's anything not covered by this introduction, you still have plenty of avenues to find some extra help. Project Welcome and Project Mentor are perfect starting points, but if you have something more pressing at hand, don't be afraid to get in touch with the administration staff. |
Remember: These guidelines may look difficult to learn and follow, but they're mainly just common sense! Think about what you're going to say or do before you do it! If you don't make an effort to do so, then why would others have the obligation to be nice to you? Feel free to ask any Project Welcome member if you need help, that's our purpose anyways!
If you want to delete this text, just delete the {{Welcomenewbie}} line from your talk page. Remember that you can always have access to these tips on the Project Welcome/Welcomenewbie page.
and replace it with this:
Hello and welcome to the Urban Dead Wiki. I hope you enjoy your time here. Here is some information and links which you may find useful:
- Basic formatting and media is a good start with formatting if you are unfamiliar with the Wiki software.
- The Suggestions system is the place to go if you want to suggest an improvement for the game. Please use Developing Suggestions before you submit your suggestion.
- Talk pages are places for discussion about a page, group or event to take place. Users also have a talk page, where they can be contact. Your talk page is here. Talk pages can be accessed by clicking the "Discussion" tab at the top of your screen.
- Please sign your comments by clicking the
button or by typing four tides (~~~~). Please do not delete any comments that are not yours off a talk page.
- If you wish to have a page of your own deleted, use speedy deletions. If you want to have a page moved, use move requests.
Again, welcome to the Urban Dead Wiki. Further help is avalable by contacting me, on my talk page, or any of the members of Project Welcome or Project Mentor
Linkthewindow Talk 11:45, 10 July 2010 (BST)
Please keep all comments on this to the talk. Linkthewindow Talk 11:49, 10 July 2010 (BST)