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January 2010


Seriously, I am hesitant to rule vandalism, let alone conclude that he's an alt of a permabanned user. He took the user/password addition off the website as soon as he heard it was considered to be a phishing scam, and as for his behaviour, if I made a website based off Urban Dead and my only thanks was a claim it was for phishing scam, as well as the possibility of being permabanned, I would behave abrasively too. Did anyone actually test this "phishing" form out? --

09:51, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

After reading the form there more, I'm beginning to change my stance, though I'd want a codist I trust like Rooster or someone's confirmation before backing it as a phishing site. -- 09:52, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
CODER I TRUCST. I WULD DO X TO. SREOIUS BUSINES Cyberbob  Talk  10:03, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
ddr was on his guard. the meatpuppets were circling the wiki like hungry sharks, waiting to pounce on a hapless policy. he knew they were out there. they knew he knew they were out there. Look! they strike, transforming a routine a/pm rejection into a hellish nightmare of yes votes. the users of the wiki were crying out for his help... "save us from the meatpuppeters ddr! save us!" "i cant" he groaned, "i... i dont have enough proof.........." Cyberbob  Talk  10:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
...The Fuck? -- 14:03, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
im experimenting with a new burn style, you like? Cyberbob  Talk  16:08, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I thought it was hilarious.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Honestly, it made me think you were drunk wiking and therefore reminded me of my clique... -- 22:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
DDR, though he's provided what he says are the scripts he's using in the /pro part of his website, we cannot know for sure that those are the scripts being used on the actual page. In fact, you can't even get at that code (and by that I mean urbandead.org/final.php). There could be an easy five lines to store login info in a .txt file he could've just cut out. What's phishy (har har) is that he asked for logins in the first place; there are smarter and safer ways to get someone's location for a revive request. --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 17:07, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
No shit? I haven't even seen his versions of the scripts. I merely said that when I find a coder here that hasn't overreacted grossly to this whole affair to confirm that its suspicious, I will rule. Like shit I'm trusting this dgw character. -- 22:12, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
dgw is pretty reliable. I mod one of the section over on Brainstock and he's never been trouble, even slightly. I'd take his word. Also I saw this site of rip's the other day, it did ask for login details which seemed highly suspect. We're coming to get you, Barbara 22:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you mean her there Mis. -- Emot-argh.gif 22:27, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Shh. I don't like making those asumptions after that night in Seoul. We're coming to get you, Barbara 22:29, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
abloobloobloo Cyberbob  Talk  10:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


It is faster than 2.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 23:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


J33z...what a mess...--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 14:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


Wauw... Whether this is vandalism or not (I'd say yes myself), it's severe to delete and recreate A/A just to get said edits out of the system. It's also pointless; the site with pic DDR linked to is gone regardless, and the name...well...by the time it is deleted most of us will know it by then, so the damage is done regardless. Sucks but it's not that it's that bad people know your first name. Last name would be different.

Also, while your picture is gone from the interwebs for good, the yearbook page will spend another month in google's cache unfortunately, just that you know. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 18:06, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

This is beyond shitty DDR. I could maybe understand sharing within the privacy of a few people, and on a secure IRC coversation, but posting that shit on the wiki? What the fuck man? I don't remember him EVER referring to you guys with your RL names, nor do I EVER remember him posting your pictures on the wiki. Just because you're okay with that, doesn't mean he is. Get your mind out of the anti-cb-haet mode and realize what you did was beyond a dick move. I'd rule vandalism if I wasn't such a noob and hadn't fucked up.

Also, whats this about manually deleting singular history items? I didn't know that was possible.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:20, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

That's because it isn't. Bob asked for the complete deletion of A/A and that's what Box did (and replacing it), right? --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 21:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
*is. Learn to wiki please. -- 00:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

moved from main -- 23:37, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
I never attempted to "win" any petty argument, just to demonstrate a very valid point of not just idiocy, but also using uncalled-for IRL references to start up shit (as demonstrated here, not to mention calls like this that have been going on for +2 years) and any other method is obviously lost on your as demonstrated with 12 months of "banter-ish" behaviour. What you have, my friend, is a case of the butthurt because you were found out by Read or such, who, like anyone on the internet, was bothered searching your email via google. Great security there. Also, nice work on the wikipedia:Streisand_effect. -- 15:19, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
DanceDanceRevolution said:
I never attempted to "win" any petty argument, just to demonstrate a very valid point
lol? Cyberbob  Talk  15:20, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Aww, a bombshell destroyed your chance at last-wording-to-win-an-argument? It's as simple as this and I'll say it again: Nut up or shut up. You make IRL jokes about a group of people for 2 years, one of them is going to turn around and bite you on the arse with information that you willingly gave to them. Simple as that, be prepared. Your fucking loss. -- 15:23, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I make IRL jokes (that apparently were mostly not even true) that can't be used to identify you by people that don't already know you. That's quite different from posting your photo and real name, my cyberstalking friend. Cyberbob  Talk  15:26, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
The point is you've been bullying users and baiting them with (deliberately) far-out assumptions of their IRL relationships for 2 years and they are obviously much tougher that you they didn't bring you here- not to mention J3D and others have been refering to me by my real name against my will for months and yet I just dealt with it.
The truth is, if you're gonna fuck with someone like Read for 2 years about IRL business, you should have been prepared to get the horns, and now you can't. Someone checking information obtainable on your userpage via google and loling at the results is your security fault and your tough shit; again, and for the last time, deal with it. -- 15:33, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I make IRL jokes (that apparently were mostly not even true) that can't be used to identify you by people that don't already know you. That's quite different from posting your photo and real name, my cyberstalking friend. Cyberbob  Talk  15:36, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for confirming you have nothing more to say on the matter on this butthurt joke case (though your obsession with the last reply still overtook this). Maybe next time you get pwned using your famous 2C baiting technique you'll learn to use the right admin action attached to the right admin page instead of adding to this month's unecessary drama pit (btw you can manually delete contribs, noob op). TIA. -- 15:44, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
How on Earth can you manually delete contribs from the history without having to delete and recreate the page? That would've saved a lot of hassle with Iscariot a few months ago. Cyberbob  Talk  15:50, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Delete and recreate every revision that exists before the personal data was added? Der? -- 00:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
...Yeah I don't think that's really an option in most cases. Cyberbob  Talk  00:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
derp how'd that undeletion work out for you? "nice one box..." indeed Cyberbob  Talk  01:23, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
please check shit before you make such idiotic calls in the future. thanks. and btw, better get onto those unusedimages. watch the text links LOL -- 13:25, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Just slap the warning on and be done with it thanks, hopefully cyberbutthurt has understood what we mean when we say 'fuck off with unfounded IRL jokes' from now on, and if he does then my job is done. TIA. --

00:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

No I will not stop cracking jokes about the nerdy shit you guys get up to when one of you tries to call someone else a nerd. u butthurt? Cyberbob  Talk  00:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
you're fuckin kidding right? This whole case is a product of fucking butthurt (you could have just deleted the info yourself you fucking pitiful excuse for a user) and you spend the best hours of last night crying to me over A/A. Butthurt my ass. Get back to fucking your gayfl buddies. Oh no! Better run for the hills! DDR used something from CB's IRL life that he was told personally by CB!!! =O -- 01:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
haha yeah buddy it's not like the posting of the photo+name in a public place (I believe I gave you that information on IRC, no?) was itself brought on by a lil touch of the hurt butt due to "unfounded IRL jokes" Cyberbob  Talk  01:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
You think one measly escalation makes me butthurt? I work them off within days dude. then again, it's okay... After last night I can add something else to my "how to press cyberbob's buttons" list, and that's all that mattered to me from the start. -- 01:24, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Not talking about the escalation, I'm talking about the motivation for posting the photo in the first place. by the way I think you'll find "malicious posting of real life photo and name" on just about everybody's list of buttons, hope this helps Cyberbob  Talk  01:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
You'd be surprised, now you've a/vb'd me for it you've lost your own chance to give it a try and see how it flys with people who have had it been done to them for over a year now. You really dissapointed me with how quickly you folded. -- 01:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah sorry I'm not quite as fucked in the head as you :\ Cyberbob  Talk  01:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Awwww there there... Don't know what happened to you but your skin seriously went so much thinner over Christmas... (see below case too. like what?) Speaking of which, I'm gonna go out and get some sunshine. Have fun sitting infront of RC... though I'm surprised you can still manage to sit after last night... -- 01:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


Iscariot said:
Why, oh why, am I not surprised by the actions of the Southern Cross Club yet again?

Apart from the fact there has never been an escalation given for any policy, see Jorm's paradox policy. They find me guilty of bad faith for one contribution even though both are aware and have been for some time that Zombie Lord is abusing Developing Suggestions due to his repeated statement that he's never going to take anything to the main system. He gets to continually abuse that page and attack other users in one of the main systems in this community and there is not one case for this, I propose a new cycling policy, that I'd yet to hear any objection to from other users or these two when mentioned before on talk pages and T:S and I get escalated.

Regardless that this will fix the problem now that Zombie Lord is browbeating users into leaving his suggestions unopposed through the use of unlimited arbitration rulings and is trying to systematically make T:S into his own personal user space and bury the legitimate use of the page by other users under the mass of multiple versions of his own 'work'.

For months Zombie Lord has acted in bad faith on that page and neither of these sysops even though they aware of this bad faith usage make a single case against him, I attempt to create a new cycling criteria to prevent this mass attack on the page, that has to be approved by the users of the system being abused and there's an instant case....

Kudos on the ref, just remember to link next thyme ;) xoxo 09:30, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Zombie Lord (2)

The General said:
Sorry, forgot about that. I intended to do it but it slipped my mind. My mistake, thanks for spotting it.
lol, overpoliteness, nice. xoxo 09:09, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
just coz you have no witty reposte to his comment...xoxo 09:31, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Zombie Lord

Zombie Lord said:
The Suggestion has not even been up two days yet, which is why I am removing the template. LeDouche and his gang have simply moved on to Phase 2 of their Troll War, that is, Arbitration and Vandal Banning attempts based on nothing in the hopes that my unpopularity will be enough to railroad through a banning. Yeah, it's pretty sad.
Clearly my interest here is in wasting my time preserving some template of Lelouch's that I could care less about and don't think he should be posting in the first place. Clearly. </sarcasm> I also could care less about your apparent unpopularity. I still try and respond to your suggestions with actual opinions, where appropriate, regardless of your reputation. The least you could do is assume that I'm not acting out of spite towards you, because I'm not. You need to be able to tell your friends from your enemies better. I'm neither. Aichon 04:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Right, your interest is the sanctity of Wiki Law over some meaningless so-called "precedent" that is clearly being misused to the detriment of anything resembling sanity. LeDouche is clearly an incompetent fucktard that wants to abuse technicalities so he can force the use of his lazy ass template as a Troll Weapon, regardless of the guidelines. Note that he has not bothered to do ANY other janitorial work on DS(I know because I've been doing it all) except to Troll my suggestions with his retarded template. Nice job.-- | T | BALLS! | 05:01 1 January 2010(UTC)

My understanding is that there's precedent that a contentious edit is left as it was at the time that the arbitration case was brought forward until the arbitration reaches a conclusion, that way the edit war doesn't continue throughout the case. The problem isn't that he's removing just a comment, but rather that he's removing a comment that is currently being arbitrated. Aichon 04:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

"Your understanding". I guess that means that you have no idea.-- | T | BALLS! | 05:01 1 January 2010(UTC)

Aichon, you're not going to get anywhere by arguing with him. I'd recommend just sitting tight until the Arbies case sorts it out. I personally wouldn't fuel his attention-craving by continuing to replace that template, but I'm not you. Also, 16 hours awake and counting! The keys on my laptop feel so light and ephemeral... Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 09:19, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but I wasn't planning on replying to him, simply because I have no additional information to contribute to the case. You may have also noticed that he replaced his original suggestion with a new one, so I feel no compunction to continue adding the template. Oh, and it sounds like 16 hours is stretching it for you. Go get some sleep. Aichon 10:11, 1 January 2010 (UTC)