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[edit] Archive

Is it possible to archive all of the finished deletion requests for August, September, and part of October? The page is getting a little long, and we are getting a little bit behind. --Akule School's back in session. 17:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

You can do it! -- AHLGTH 20:21, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dead Links

When a page is deleted, can we remove the link in the header on the deletions page? We've got several thousand dead links because of this. --Rosslessness Join a Borehamwood Group? 13:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PKer List

  1. It's NOT a pker list... it's some misguided idiot's half-assed attempt at a pker list. There's no documentation, no criteria, nothing. I like being in the Rogues Gallery; however, it's an independent entity and does not have the "authorty" of a peer-edited community page. If there IS to be an official pker list, I'm guessing there's going to be... shit, I don't know... probably like six or seven more people on there. Maybe eight, I'm not quite sure. Though I AM pretty sure your mom should be on there. What? Did I just reference your mom? Yeah, this page is that terrible. Get rid of it. It's ridiculous. --Blackboard 00:19, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    You mean that it's not some sort of list of people who should not be revived because they are "pkers"? --Akule School's back in session. 01:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    Gaaaaah... A. "DNR" lists are inherently biased. B. If you want to make one, go ahead. Put me on it. I don't care. But it's not a general community decision. It's a public page, remember. I feel forced to degenerate into childish insults - do you people just not understand the concept of wikis?? Go THIS, READ THIS RIGHT NOW before you say anything else that makes my brain hurt. --Blackboard 01:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    I have an idea. Move it to a subpage of his user page. Problem solved. image:haw.gif --Akule School's back in session. 01:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    You are a fucking moron. Get a job hobo!--Image:Emot-pervert.gifAnime Sucks supports Hagnat for Crat!Image:Emot-pervert.gif 01:52, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    Comes from the guy who voted for a man that will help those without jobs. :| --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 02:04, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    Sonny broke the page (just like John McCain would have done to the country had he been elected president), it got fixed though. I love you! --Image:Emot-pervert.gifAnime Sucks supports Hagnat for Crat!Image:Emot-pervert.gif 02:12, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    Owwww, my feelings! Good argument though. I think I'll change my vote to keep. Also, I'm adding your mom to the page. And why not? It's a public page, is it not? Who's to say your mom isn't a pker? --Blackboard 02:00, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    You are a fucking moron. Get a job hobo! --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 02:04, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    Also, you must be new to Urban Dead... so welcome! Secondly, since you are new to Urban Dead... let me key you in on one of the big phrases used in Urban Dead, one that has been passed around for generations. Screenshot or it didn't happen!. Considering that Your Mom is a Zombie character, I'd prolly say not a pker.--Image:Emot-pervert.gifAnime Sucks supports Hagnat for Crat!Image:Emot-pervert.gif 02:12, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    (Gives patient sigh) Ok. First, what about the others, Mr Blinkyscript? Their screenshots are pretty clear right on the page, right? Those screenshots right next to their names? Those ones? Good. Second, as metagaming sources like Branstock demonstrate, there are two sides to every story. Though, maybe not in this case. Maybe every time a person kills someone else it's a plain old pk and should be reported as such. Do you know what someone should do? Someone should make up, like, Bounty Hunters or something... or maybe groups could, you know, be at odds with one another and just kill each other on sight! Do you think stuff like that could ever happen?? Boy, that would sure be swell! Gosh, Urban Dead sure is a super ol' game! --Blackboard 02:25, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    Die in a fire. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 02:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    Sounds like someone needs to vent with a wiki rant. --Akule School's back in session. 02:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    I can do colorsTM too. Or maybe, we can keep the page, and make it community run, require screenshots, and people can do what they want with the information.--Image:Emot-pervert.gifAnime Sucks supports Hagnat for Crat!Image:Emot-pervert.gif 02:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    Very pretty. Also, that's not a bad idea... and in fact, the good folks over at the Rogues Gallery did something remarkably similar quite some time ago. But, maybe they didn't. I don't know. I'm incredibly new around here. Since I am so new, can you tell me what this "crit 1" is that you speak of? It confuses me so. --Blackboard 02:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    I understand you got a speels on for the Rogues Gallery (even though it is the bastard child of de/resensitized's PK List), but just because something offsite is more popular, doesn't make it the only option. First of all, the criterion listed above,... that is for Speedy Delete, being as this is the regular deletions page, citing criterion is really pointless as there are already keep votes. Crit 1 is "No Content: The page contains no more than a line or two of content that cannot clearly be expanded, consists of random or incoherent content, or is duplicated elsewhere to no purpose. Pages created by Spambots typically fall under this category." Which means, that page in question.. while fairly non-updated, can still be expanded and worked on, People just haven't because they goto Rogues Gallery, or the PK list, or even the laughable Black List. It doesn't contain any random or incoherent content (like what you would hear from a tourettes inflicted racist), nor, to my recollection, is there a non-group orientated pk list anywhere else posted on the wiki. That is of course, assuming Crit 1 applies in this case.. which it doesn't.--Image:Emot-pervert.gifAnime Sucks supports Hagnat for Crat!Image:Emot-pervert.gif 03:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    The content is random AND incoherent. Is it about pking or "breaking" the sacred ground "policy"? How could it be expanded? Who would moderate it? How would issues regarding pking vs bounty hunting, revenge killing, etc. be resolved? It's just a big fucking nightmare with no place on the wiki, unless it's in a user space, which is the appropriate place to grind axes. --Blackboard 08:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
    Expanding and moderation is easy. make a table. Name, Profile Link, Screenshot/iwitness link.--Image:Emot-pervert.gifAnime Sucks supports Hagnat for Crat!Image:Emot-pervert.gif 18:42, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Blackboard, give up. You're a retard. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 04:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

That's so true. God, you just cut me right down to the bone. I give up. Well said. --Blackboard 08:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Username redirects in community space

There is precedent to remove a deletion criterion. If people can't see how black and white these deletions should be, I highly suggest they propose the relevant change. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85, which is in the area Elstree Studios, within South Borehamwood - Thank Hagnat! 10:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criterion 9

--HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 06:12, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Keep - i like these and think they should be allowed, no harm in having them.--J3D 06:21, 24 October 2008 (BST)
These are extremely useful redirects. I use DDR and AHLG all the time. This is madness, they should stay. I think Crit 3 needs to be reviewed, because redirects don't only serve to be linked to, they're also useful for when you don't want to type in "User:DanceDanceRevolution" or the like in full in the search bar, and would rather the convenience of "DDR". And crit 9 shouldn't apply to redirects imo.--Nick? Support Project CP KTHXBYE 06:34, 24 October 2008 (BST)
Keep - Bob you fail to notice that DDR has over 150 links and is therefore a very useful link. Ron Burgundy Also has about 30. I don't think its right to delete redirects that are that popular. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:03, 24 October 2008 (BST)
Did you think that people would fail to notice that the 150 pages is because of the link in your signature? - Jedaz - 07:54/24/10/2008
Lookee here, I even found the edit wherein he hid it in his sig most cunningly. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 08:01, 24 October 2008 (BST)
If you BOTHERED looking properly, you would see it was already in there. hur? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:10, 24 October 2008 (BST)
There, happy? --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 08:12, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Sorry guys, but you have to live with the same rules everybody else does. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 07:30, 24 October 2008 (BST)

I have a feeling you are just being able to cope with that realisation yourself. For the record, I use AHLG lots too, its so loverly and convenient. Unlike CF's myspace. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:34, 24 October 2008 (BST)
Firstly, that first sentence doesn't make sense. Secondly, I don't have a MySpace. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 07:36, 24 October 2008 (BST)
lolwut?--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 08:11, 24 October 2008 (BST)
lolwut?--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 08:15, 24 October 2008 (BST)
0 friends??!?! Just like IRL and on teh wiki...--J3D 08:12, 24 October 2008 (BST)
FUCKING SNAP! He's 19? Why did everyone tell me he was 12? and live in Sydney? Grargh! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:15, 24 October 2008 (BST)
I'll spell it out for you: I find it slightly humerous that you are dishing out the 'you are the same as everyone else' lessons when I think you are finding it hard to cope with that realisation yourself. Hope the extended version of said sentence was fantasmic enough for you. You don't have a Myspace? Thats not what myspace says. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:43, 24 October 2008 (BST)
You think wrong; notice how I am not contesting the deletion of my own redirect page (which I had forgotten about; from the creation date it can't have been made more than a few weeks after I first joined). As for the thing about MySpace, why would I lie? All of my contact with my friends is done IRL. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 07:47, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Err...are normal users allowed to vote, here? I find those redirects immensely helpful. :( --Jen 07:47, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Yes you are, in fact it would be encouraged :) Although this isn't suposed to be here, one keep vote nullifies a Speedy delete request.--J3D 07:55, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Can all these clowns be slapped with vandal warnings for needlessly shitting up the Admin pages with their drivel? --WanYao 08:15, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Stop licking Sysop asshole Wan you douchebag.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 08:16, 24 October 2008 (BST)
Real constructive wan.--Nick? Support Project CP KTHXBYE 08:17, 24 October 2008 (BST)
Also, by saying that wan, you have contributed to the shitting up of the admin page. If you want us A/VB'd, do it yourself, don't shit up the admin page asking someone else to do it,--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 08:18, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Take it to the talk page, now -- boxy talkteh rulz 08:18 24 October 2008 (BST)

Keep - Due to the number of links. If Bob was to (quite legally I might add) change all of those linked pages to the correct link rather than the redirect, then these would qualify. Not until. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85, which is in the area Elstree Studios, within South Borehamwood - Thank Hagnat! 09:32, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Delete as per crit - Bob makes a sound point. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85, which is in the area Elstree Studios, within South Borehamwood - Thank Hagnat! 11:04, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Please note that Criterion 9 says nothing about link numbers. I did not mention Criterion 3 in the request. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 09:39, 24 October 2008 (BST)
Good point, i carnnt reedz. Vote changed accordingly. Someone please move my vote onto the page when unprotected. -- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85, which is in the area Elstree Studios, within South Borehamwood - Thank Hagnat! 11:04, 24 October 2008 (BST)

When will this be unprotected (lol), so the community can vote?--Nick? Support Project CP KTHXBYE 10:02, 24 October 2008 (BST)

Keep btw. The pages don't harm other users, don't add to server overload (the pages themselves being of tiny, tiny size), in comparison to other pages all over the wiki and help promote work and users that work in a way that is beneficial to the wiki community. Also makes things a lot easier. And yeah, as Nick. Seems somewhat redundant to have a page that requires voting yet you can't vote. --Scurley7 14:47, 24 October 2008 (BST)
Delete - We don't need 15,000 similar pages and these ones serve no purpose, hell two of them were even crit 6 and I'm willing to be DDR only has so many because it was probably a past sig for that user. Ooh, look at that, User:DanceDanceRevelution is purposely altering his Templates Sig to game the numbers, that's about as borderline vandalism as you can get. 5 enter, only two can leave, DDR was deleted for being kept under false pretenses and meeting Crit's 3,9 and I'm also contemplating starting an A/VB case for what was done.--Karekmaps?! 15:32, 24 October 2008 (BST)
What crit did you delete DDR under?--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 15:48, 24 October 2008 (BST)
Reading is fundamental.--Karekmaps?! 15:53, 24 October 2008 (BST)
So is spelling. It's "Revolution" btw. So if you are going to go to every page that he used DDR on and change it to something else, at least spell it right. I still don't believe you have the right to delete these, they have been moved to this page by Boxy and ZombieSlay3r after being on A/SD--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 15:55, 24 October 2008 (BST)
And so I haven't deleted any of the ones that are reasonably subject to a vote.--Karekmaps?! 15:58, 24 October 2008 (BST)
Don't they all go up for vote? Especially DDR, I just screencapped you deleting a link made using the DDR redirect by another user, from BEFORE the history purge. Your telling me people don't use it? Well I am capping everything you do, and every history revision.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 16:01, 24 October 2008 (BST)
I was fixing the link so it wouldn't become dead, in the process I was removing one of the three uses of that abbreviation. Ever. Trust me, that qualifies, we've always done it that way with speedy deletions.--Karekmaps?! 16:05, 24 October 2008 (BST)
I will take your word for it, but I am still going to cap it all so that it is easier for DDR to look through tomorrow, rather than him having to trawl through history etc--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 16:07, 24 October 2008 (BST)
Personally though, I think you should have let the acronyms stay on the deletions page for voting. Just because I do use DDR in the search box every time I look for him. I just think there should be special exception if your name is three words or more. I would have voted keep, but not for Nallan, Ron Burgundy, or J3D.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 16:11, 24 October 2008 (BST)
  • Speedydelete the lot. We don't need acronym redirects for every person on the wiki, disambiguation hell -- boxy talkteh rulz 16:03 24 October 2008 (BST)

[edit] Cities

So if the general prerogative of users is that we delete that page and merge it into Category:Related_Games, then we'll need to merge/delete Zombie Infection Simulation and Graaaagh!, delete the already merged pages of Nexus War and Vampires!, and just delete Ahhh! Real Zombies! (cartoon) page. After all, the Unofficial UD Forums don't have individual forum pages, so why should the Category:Related_Games be any different? --Akule School's back in session. 21:23, 23 October 2008 (BST)

Seeing how short all of them are, I wouldn't object to merging/deleting them all and turning the category into a regular page. --Midianian|T|DS|C:RCS| 21:52, 23 October 2008 (BST)
That would make the most sense. --Akule School's back in session. 21:56, 23 October 2008 (BST)

[edit] The Mighty Republic of Lolz

  1. Delete - What the fuck is this bullshit? Stop wasting our time.--Nick? Support Project CP KTHXBYE 13:43, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    Keep - Changed my mind!--Nick? Support Project CP KTHXBYE 13:44, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    I'm glad I came back. Someone needs to be here to keep you two faggots in check when you go off on your litle sugar highs. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 14:25, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    I'm glad you came back too :) --Nick? Support Project CP KTHXBYE 03:13, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    P.S. Great job keeping us in check.--Nick? Support Project CP KTHXBYE 03:15, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  2. Delete - Serves no purpose, as it's not linked anywhere.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 14:40, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    160. The Mighty Republic of Lolz ‎(541 links), i think you'll find The Mighty Republic is one of the most valued pages on our fair wiki! --J3D 09:15, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    I wonder if that has anything to do with these three edits you just made? --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 09:35, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    Who's to say? Perhaps it's just the wiki's most linked to redirect, unfortunately the delete template prevents it from functioning as a redirect, sigh.--J3D 09:40, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  3. Delete - and Bob, ffs get your /b/ quotes off of the UD wiki. Some of us here frequent that particular image board and feel saddened at your newfaggotry.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 15:15, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    It didn't originate from /b/, you pathetic fucking mong. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 16:24, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    But that is where you found it, you make it too obvious. Your poor attempts at trolling have not been missed on this wiki. I will no doubt expect a well thought out and considerably constructive retort after posting this, where you combine your knowledge of the intarwebz that you gained from reading Encyclopaedia Dramatica, with a witty, well thought out "insult" along the lines of "muppet" or "mong". I like how you use these words instead of curse words, they make your rebuttals look more respectable. Sorry Bob, your antics have made me yawn lately. Don't expect a reply, I think this post will do your next 100 complete justice.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 16:57, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    Er, "mong" is a highly offensive term. You might like to go look it up. As for your other bleating... well, some people just can't be saved. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 17:05, 2 October 2008 (BST)
  4. Delete - Birthday's over, it's served its purpose. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 07:14, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    I demand ALiM get a new birthday where the wiki isn't down for 7 hours of it! Damn you kevaaaaaaaaan!--J3D 08:58, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    Well, because of the history purge, we only really know for 100% sure that the birthday was in the month of october. Therefore, every october, for its entirety, is ALiMs birthday.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 09:00, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    That'd be birthmonth then :). You know, this is still going to stay here for almost two weeks, so you'll get half of the month covered. It's not like you celebrate your birthday for the whole 24 hours (well, at least most people don't). --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 09:29, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    It's decided then - October shall henceforth be known as Cocktober, in tribute to ALiM's cock locations, which are speculated to number in the thousands.--Nick? Support Project CP KTHXBYE 00:30, 6 October 2008 (BST)

[edit] UZM Discussion

Moved from Main page

[edit] Wan's Vote

  1. Delete - As above. --WanYao 18:50, 22 September 2008 (BST)
    Question - This page had existed in this form for more than a year. Why the sudden interest in it now? -- Cheese WTF!RandomSysOp? 19:10, 22 September 2008 (BST)
    Simple, I think: no one noticed it before then. Now, however, we have noticed. And...ah, and I just clicked the links in the old version: and that version takes you to the Groups' wiki pages. Period. Annoying, maybe, but ultimately innocuous. This new page is an external web-monster, and thus a totally different beast. See points 2 and 5 in particular. That's my own personal answer, anyway. --WanYao 19:26, 22 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Jen's Vote

  1. Keep and Edit? - I'm new to this whole wiki vote/edit war thing...but...if iwitness and other tools like that can have wiki pages, I don't see why this can't have one. There's four zombie groups that DO use the thing, along with the four that want nothing to do with it. It's a resource out there, and it's being used. Most of your issues are with the browser itself, NOT the wiki page that is, at the moment, pretty accurately describing said browser. --Jen 21:07, 22 September 2008 (BST)
    Tools like Iwitness, and their wikis, do not associate themselves with any specific group(s), nor do they claim or imply to be a sort of pseudo-metagroup as does this page/tool. Those tools which are associated with a specific group(s) -- like the DEM revive request tool, for example -- state pretty explicitly their player group connection. This page / tool, as it stands, fits into neither category. In fact, it appropriates the names of groups not involved in a manner that is, frankly, little more than a technologically adept form of impersonation. All the while IMO rather disingenuously claiming to be "neutral". That is why, in my opinion, it is different. --WanYao 21:39, 22 September 2008 (BST)
    In what sense is the page related to Extinction apart from my building it? I'm not a group! It was set up as a zed meta-group well over a year ago and went nowhere and now it's just a Zombie browser. Since peeps here have a problem with the implied meta grouping I've already said the term 'United' can go and have a logo ready for such as soon as the UZM can be redirected. I think it's a useful resource and use it all the time so am offering it to anyone and everyone. Or are you just using any excuse to be anti-Extinction? --Zeug 03:49, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    My reasons have been clearly explicated. I feel no need to repeat them. --WanYao 05:51, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Yes but I'm not clear about your unexplicated reasons, apart from you think it's a meta-grouping. Where is there any link or even implied connection to Extinction in the UZM beyond it being included along with the other groups? In what sense apart from your 'feelings' is this open access portal, as useful or otherwise to survivors as it might be to zeds, in any way an Extinction project?--Zeug 10:33, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    The explication is the responsibility of the "critic". It's not my fault you can't understand the text. Actually, I am pretty sure you do, in fact, "get it"... Which is why I keep throwing around the word "disingenuous"... which for everyone else, it means "a lying sack of shit"... --WanYao 16:58, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    See now this is a perfect example of the moronic stupidity I have to put up with from the more logically challenged members on this wiki. All I get from your intervention Wan is that you for some peculiar reason despise me and Extinction therefore the UZM should be deleted. And actually the explication is up to you since you are the one who actually started this deletion debate. How is the UZM a 'propaganda' technique? Simple question but you can't answer it can you? --Zeug 17:14, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Again, I see those things as problems with the tool, not the wiki page. The wiki describes those groups as "covered" by the tool because the tool DOES "cover" them. The wiki page looks meta-alliancy because the tool itself makes things look like a meta-alliance. And deleting a page describing the browser is not going to solve that problem. It's the equivalent of putting your head in the sand and pretending things are better. Or getting mad at the symptom instead of the disease. Throw a paragraph onto the page that includes the history of the tool, and how it was created to help Extinction, and is currently used primarily used by Extinction, if the group-affiliation thing is causing problems. The page is describing a browser tool. Make the description on the wiki page accurate. Fix the tool. Don't delete the page. --Jen 17:47, 23 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Boxy's Vote

  1. Delete - there was every opportunity to be reasonable about this, and remove groups that didn't want to be associated with it, and those shoutboxes are way out of order. It implies that people are actually contacting the groups in question when they use them. While some groups may use them as intended, those who want no part of this project should not need to monitor "their" shoutbox, on an extinction site, to ensure they arn't being misrepresented -- boxy talki 14:08 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Which shoutboxes exactly? For instance the MoB's shoutbox actually is their shoutbox, I quite enjoy watching the conversation. The Undeadite shoutbox is also theirs, I made it for them and gave them the admin pass. Extinction's of course, and FU ... but not the RRF's. So no, I wouldn't remove the shoutboxes at all, but certainly there's room to clarify their use. But what's that got to do with links on wiki pages? --Zeug 14:25, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    removing the shoutbox for the groups who explicitly ask is only fair... I would even suggest removing them for those that do not give permission and only activating them when they do so! The damn things are extremely misleading and detract considerably from the usefullness of the tool!--Honestmistake 14:31, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Well I'd prefer to keep the MoB shoutbox for example, it's a publicly accessible web service provided by cbox and no different than showing their wiki talk page. But relabeling the RRF box makes sense as it's not theirs, although they're of course free to use it and I'd give them the admin pass. As a general use shoutbox peeps would be free to leave messages on it ... how about label it as a generic 'Zombie Browser Shoutbox'?--Zeug 14:47, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    How about you do the decent thing, and just remove those groups who want no part of it? Putting their own shoutboxes onto a page that they have no control over is just as bad -- boxy talki 15:39 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Just as bad as what boxy? As survivors linking to it? Or me showing their forums? Your argument lacks logic somewhat. But yeh, just did a quick config edit and I do like the neutrality of 'UZM Browser Shoutbox', should encourage peeps to post there which was the whole point of building the thing originally ... to encourage network communications across the UD meta game. --Zeug 16:08, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    It's totally news to me, as a MOB member, that MOB has a shout box.... MOB has its own metagaming infrastructure (which is ultimately run by jorm) that has nothing to do with this tool... I don't speak for MOB in any capacity... but jorm does... and jorm -- along with the leadership of the RRF, HH and IS -- has expressed some pretty clear displeasure with his group being attached to this project, and asked to be removed. No... I've said it before, I'll said it again: this is little more than "a technologically adept form of impersonation".... VERY disingenous... Therefore, delete with prejudice. --WanYao 16:47, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    If anyone is using your shoutbox with our name on it they are NOT members of the MOB, who have explicit orders *NOT* to use your shit. REMOVE IT. I don't know how much fucking clearer I need to be to get through your fucking peabrained fucking head. I am the leader of the MOB. No one else speaks higher than me.--Jorm 18:45, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Ha gods you're a tosser. And your shoutbox isn't mine, it was already in use when I found it on your zombie multi-alt sharing site barhah.com so go fuck yourself you pathetically pompous twat. --Zeug 21:34, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    The history of that "shoutbox" is irrelevant. If Jorm says its not to be used for MOB related communications, nobody else can rightly say it is. Calling him "pompus" in this case is a very correct thing; look up the origin & meaning of the word. As far as MOB goes, Jorm's position is quite like that of the Pope's, and you can no more say some shoutbox is a MOB communicatio method just because you saw some MOB members there than you can say the corner store is a Catholic church just because they sell candles with the virgin on them; that's not for you to decide.  Swiers 22:27, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Hi swiers, and yes I meant pompous precisely in terms of jorm's totally gay quasi-religious Jesuit bollocks which I find not only hilarious but grotesquely sycophantic. And fuck the pope cos he is irrelevant, this was a MoB shoutbox from barhah.com, they've been chatting on it forever and if gormless jorm would like to give me the admin pass so I can adjust their crappy css I'd be more than happy to relabel it as a UZM Browser Shoutbox like the others. But he's a fuckwit and can't handle a rational conversation while 'in role' as whatever he pretends to be in this game. As for me somehow being obligated to pay my respects to the twit ... HAHAHA ... you a very funny man.--Zeug 10:40, 24 September 2008 (BST)
    I wish state... again, sigh... that I speak for no one except myself. Period. That being said, though he needs nothing of the sort from me, I concur with Jorm. And, now, more than fucking enough has been said on this subject... Good-day. --WanYao 18:53, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Yes and how are your beerhah alt swaps with barhah.com going Wan? But it's not my shoutbox, the colours are all wrong. I picked it up from barhah.com ages ago, in fact the creation date for their browser is 4/06/07 and they've been chatting on it since forever. --Zeug 17:09, 23 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Grogh's Vote

  1. Delete - I really hate the way this thing poses as being associated with The MOB. IT's NOT -- Grogh 19:30, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    *headwall* Y'all's problem is the tool itself, not with the wiki page. The problem is only the wiki page insofar as the wiki page gives an inaccurate description of the browser. And the solution to inaccurate descriptions of things is to edit the pages related to those things. Not to delete them. This page has every right to be on the UD wiki, as there are zombie groups that make use of it. Put a flipping "history and controversy" section up on the page, for crying out loud, but don't delete something just because you hate what it's describing. Please, someone -- tell me I'm not crazy for saying this. What am I missing?--Jen 19:46, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    I don't think you're missing anything, but you may not see that some (most?) zombie groups do not wish to have links with their name on them which point to an external sight that then appears as if it is related to that group. This is intentionally misleading, along with the labels on that page that also appear to belong to the group. Remove any references to The MOB and every other group that hasn't specifically given permission to use their name and I'll withdraw my vote. -- Grogh 19:59, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    Mmm...OK. That helps. Yep, I can see the list of links as it stands now (linking directly to the "portals" that the tool has created for those groups), as being a problem. There's a HUGE implication of endorsement there -- plus links like that are wholly unnecessary, as the complete list of them is just one click away, in the first place. Again, though -- wouldn't this be something to edit, not delete? Even Wan says up top that the old list was "annoying, maybe, but ultimately innocuous." And so long as the tool continues to "cover" those groups, I see no reason why they couldn't keep being listed on the wiki page as "groups covered." --Jen 20:14, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    It's not even just about "misrepresentation"... It' also about appropriation. Again, this is a technologically adept form of impersonation... And, as for Zeug's comments, like below... He's just butthurt... and overcompensatinf because he doesn't actually garner any respect... And... actually, Zeug could be in the MOB... however, I really, really doubt it, for reasons I'll keep to myself... Anyooo, ciao for now... ::sits back to watch the next syndicated instalment of zeug's frothing-at-mouth-but-thinking-he's-winning show:: ;P
    You're missing the meatpuppet show jen, it's how this wiki works. Relax, sit back and enjoy the spectacle of an IRC coordinated barhah.com assault. It's as awesome on the wiki as it is in the City, and actually a lot of fun. My MoB alt loves it. --Zeug 20:01, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    What MOB alt? Quit the lying BS. The only way you got a MoB alt is if you used a proxy and hid your real identity. -- Grogh 20:14, 23 September 2008 (BST)
    A bit off topic but since you asked I could be using work and home puters, and the idea of a 'real' identity in this virtual space is kind of ridiculous don't you think ... in fact how could anyone know I'm not Grogh replying to myself?--Zeug 20:21, 23 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Richter Fury's Vote

  1. Delete - The page misrepresents itself in a fundamental way, clearly the zombies of malton aren't united at all in this. --RichterFury 01:59, 24 September 2008 (BST)
    Yeh I've already offered to redirect UZM and change the wiki name to UZM Zombie Browser. You'll notice the pics are already changed and the website tool has been edited to make it more neutral. But this is more about attacking Extinction than any concern with a sane wiki process. A sysadmin should probably have squashed this mad thread before it started and taken it straight to arbitration, instead we've got 12 more days of this awesome display of barhah.com meatpuppetry. --Zeug 06:08, 24 September 2008 (BST)
    the word "united" does not designate a choice to be so it merely means "together" Look at the United kingdom and the number of Scotts who want to break away.... Look at the USSR and how united they proved to be when they got the chance or the US and how united they were when not given the choice... (I doubt that the Southern States were particularly happy to stay in the Union after the civil war) You could try banning lots of groups and bages for being misleading... Indeed if this goes through I might try just to prove a point!--Honestmistake 10:28, 24 September 2008 (BST)
    Yeh the browser 'unites' us in a neutral network sense, whether they like it or not. I use it to jump into my various alts in the MoB ... and others. Of course they're crapping themselves about the positive connotations, which is fair enough, so I can change it to UZM as in UrbanDead Zombies of Malton and offered to do so in my first reply to wan's bollocks above. But like I told grim and iscariot before this started, the UZM wiki idea is well over a year old and ancient history so I'm not too fussed if they want to take me on ... and they have. I'd love to set a wiki precedent here, next up all references to Barhah as somewhow a barhah.com copyright! The only REAL BARHAH is Salt the Land and working towards a Zombie Apocalypse! Anyways ... can we go to jorm's arbitration case yet or do I need to organize some meatpuppets of my own to keep this bollocks going?--Zeug 11:13, 24 September 2008 (BST)

[edit] Monroeville

With Monroeville being left for dead and decaying into a ruined wasteland, what's the policy on Monroeville related pages? From locations, to groups, to miscellaneous junk, we need to figure out what if any should be considered obsolete or deletable content, or at least require a "Historical" tag. Techercizer (Food) (TSoE) 02:02, 16 August 2008 (BST)

[edit] Subpage for Scheduling?

There's already quite many of them, and following them is pretty hard as most of the edits to the page are to regular deletions. Why not put them on a subpage? --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 03:19, 11 July 2008 (BST)

I don't see why not, it would make it harder to just miss new things being added to the list.--Karekmaps?! 18:16, 11 July 2008 (BST)
I was thinking about doing that myself to be honest. Would make thinks much easier. -- Cheese WTF!RandomSysOp? 18:18, 11 July 2008 (BST)

[edit] Tselita - Templates

Here you go, Gardenator. Spam-Insult away. --Tselita 21:30, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Please, laugh with me at the sweet, sweet irony of Tselita calling my posts Spam. -- LABIA on the INTERNET Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - הפוסל במומו פוסל TMG 01:11, 28 June 2008 (BST)
Tselita, you are beyond retarded. Your templates are shit, you have no idea what humor is, and you call others spammers when you are the biggest spammer. You are an idiot, get it? It's because you have no brain functions and should have been euthanized as a child. Don't like it? Too bad. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 01:16, 28 June 2008 (BST)
"Never hate your enemies, it affects your judgement." - Michael --Tselita 17:07, 3 July 2008 (BST)
You know, Sonny...A move request to a user subpage would be smarter, and also the fact that if you didn't like yours, you should just put yours up for deletion, rather then everyone else's. --Axe Hack is Against the New Facebook 01:23, 28 June 2008 (BST)
Heh, I posted the deletion for Grim who couldn't get onto the wiki since his ISP locked him out for accessing the site too many times too quickly. I would like it if Tselita just took the raw code and handed it out instead of making a new page each time she wants to make a shitty template. But then again Tselita is a wiki-noob and wouldn't know to do this. --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 01:34, 28 June 2008 (BST)
She new, yes we all know that. Is she learning how to edit this wiki? Yes, she's learning. Slowly, but still learning. --Axe Hack is Against the New Facebook 01:38, 28 June 2008 (BST)
Michael to Sonny: "It's not personal, Sonny. It's strictly business." --Tselita 17:05, 3 July 2008 (BST)
Me to You: "You're a fucking retard. You should have been an abortion. Please kill yourself, preferably in a fire." --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 21:26, 4 July 2008 (BST)
Tsk tsk, Tselita...can't you see I'm trying to stop a war here? That's not gonna happen if you throw insults back at them, now... --Axe Hack is Against the New Facebook 21:28, 4 July 2008 (BST)
Ok, how about this? I agree to stop fighting with Tselita is she drinks a whole bottle of Drano? --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 21:37, 4 July 2008 (BST)
I don't care what you two do to resolve your issues, just do it. I'm getting sick of playing the diplomat here... --Axe Hack is Against the New Facebook 23:06, 4 July 2008 (BST)
It's obvious that he likes the attention. -- LABIA on the INTERNET Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - הפוסל במומו פוסל TMG 10:02, 5 July 2008 (BST)
Don't go all insult-ish and stuff if you think Tselita is actually a guy. Ever heard of Mia Kristos? --Axe Hack is Against the New Facebook 14:35, 5 July 2008 (BST)
Don't act like you are being diplomatic when you're obviously on a certain users side trying to protect them from the hell they themselves wrought. It's annoying.--Karekmaps?! 14:56, 5 July 2008 (BST)
Hahaha! You mean Mr "I have multiple personalities and its therefore not my fault that i pretended i was a drunken chick and tried to cyber with people on IRC", when multiple personalities just plain dont work that way, dont you Kooks?--The Grimch U! E! WAT! 16:46, 5 July 2008 (BST)
Hm? Kooks? What makes you think I'm Kooks? --Axe Hack is Against the New Facebook 17:08, 5 July 2008 (BST)
The fact that ive been up for a good long time with very little sleep and my brain is fizzling off. You are who i say you are, so shut up Kooks :P --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 17:38, 5 July 2008 (BST)
You hush up, Cletus. He's not Kooks, that there is General Robert E Lee and he done be saving us from that there Yank Army across the Potomac. Now me and JEB will be meeting with Longstreet at Stonewall Jackson's flank. I hope to God you brought your gun cause we got us a mess of a fight ahead of us. Tselita is really Yank General Grant and we ain't about to be licked by no northener. Now charge and let that rebel yell go. FOR VIRGINIA! --Sonny Corleone DORIS MSD pr0n 18:41, 5 July 2008 (BST)
No more peace keeping attempts from me...It's a try and fail technique... --Axe Hack is Against the New Facebook 22:10, 9 July 2008 (BST)

[edit] Groups

Yeesss, lets spam the Deletions page again with all the groups that were purposely rejected under crit 12 when it was still around. Didn't we already go through this? With some of these exact same articles even. The ones that meet other crits should be put to A/SD as needed(that means no mass spamming please) and the ones that don't probably shouldn't be here at all. --Karekmaps?! 18:12, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Damn me? Ok then....
Fact: Crit 12 applies exclusively to Speedy Deletions. Were any of these forwarded for Speedy Deletion?
Fact: Since Crit 12 was removed, precedent shows that group pages can be deleted through the standard deletions process.
Fact: Accordingly this template is erroneous at best and plainly deceitful at worst.
Fact: The act of following established precedent and policy should not be disapproved or implied to be a spam contribution, certainly by a member of wiki staff. If something is unclear or erroneous within the system then the policy should be fixed and amended.
-- St. Iscariot GC PK WTE The Big Brother Diary Room is at 551 - 85, which is in the area Elstree Studios, within South Borehamwood - Thank Hagnat! 23:09, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Iscariot, Just because you're trying to get it done through A/D does not mean you aren't still attempting to get some form of Crit 12 enforced whether you believe so or not, your whole stated purpose for deleting the groups is that they are defunct, that's Crit 12, the precedent that these are considered spamming the system, isn't a new one, it's been around since before those speedy deletion cases you linked, some cases, by the way, that were influential in getting Crit 12 put down like the overreaction that it was.--Karekmaps?! 04:43, 17 April 2008 (BST)

It's fine to put abandoned groups up on deletions, but please be a bit more selective about it. I personally only vote for deletion if there is a very short edit history, or the page is very sparse -- boxy talki 07:45 18 April 2008 (BST)

[edit] Arkham off topic discussion

  • Delete - Escalating BBK retardness.--Luke Skywalker 11:57, 7 April 2008 (BST)
    RE: Actually, Finny, this has nothing to do with the BBK. It is a different group, containing only Nick and Jed. Personal Vendettas do not belong on admin pages.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 12:03, 7 April 2008 (BST)
    RE: I was using it as a general term to classify you and your retarded friends.--Luke Skywalker 12:06, 7 April 2008 (BST)
    RE: Well then, retard would be an apt name for my retarded friends. Very literal. For you, I use cunt rash.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 12:15, 7 April 2008 (BST)
    RE:Boxy, move this and the preceding comments to the talk page please, it's shitting up the admin page.--Nick? Support Project CP KTHXBYE 12:10, 7 April 2008 (BST)

Why couldn't Boxy just do this as requested? Seems petty that he left it, then cited it in a Vandalism case. Shit sysop.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 13:19, 7 April 2008 (BST)

Jesus christ already, give it up. I did it, and I did it first probably because I saw it before he did -- and it was the correct thing to do. Who's really being petty here, I wonder... --WanYao 15:17, 7 April 2008 (BST)
You, for weighing in on a subject you bear no relation to in an effort to have people see you as a sensible diplomatic type. You are all attacking every page that is Arkham involved because you are not letting it reach its potential. FYI, I hold no relation to any of those pages. I just know them in real life and have heard them talk about the plans they have for the pages, which are quite interesting. Killing them before you give them time to grow, as well as attain some constructive criticism, is a really horrible way to go about things. The only reason any of these pages are even in contention for deletion is because one user placed pages edited by those he has a personal vendetta against. It's pretty stupid really. It seems as if the only way to get on anyones good side here is to tell them how wonderful they are and how they could not improve if they tried. It's pathetic.--MichaelRead The Coordinates of the Big Brother House are 599 - 97 which is in Southeast Borehamwood الله من الخدمة ALiM Project CP 17:31, 10 April 2008 (BST)
  • As of now it's purpose is simply self referencing nickname promotion -- boxy talki 11:59 7 April 2008 (BST)
    Well it was simply a redirect (that no one had a problem with) until Finis decided to change it to a disambiguation page.--J3D 12:01, 7 April 2008 (BST)
    Whatever my opinion of Finis outside this context may be... He did the right thing here, since the redirect to which you refer led directly to you peoples' "Arkham Sisters" page... Your little clique is engaging in attention-whoring, pure and simple. Please stop. --WanYao 13:44, 7 April 2008 (BST)

[edit] Assylum

Might a vote settle things? Everyone from Assylum should vote on whether they want it kept, or deleted. Majority wins. Bad/good idea?-- AHLGTH 23:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Let the vote run its course. If it's still there you guys can probably get it moved to a userspace, where it might be more suited. – Nubis 23:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)