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New is better

Format wide I prefer the set up of Monroeville. Malton is all well and good but its not hugely informative. Borehamwood just needs a good old clean. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


  • Playing in (City Name)

Explaining how to sign up, it its still open etc.

Differences from Malton

  • Mapping

Links to map, overall map of regions if appropriate.

  • Groups

Links to the group categories for the city

  • Buildings

Large structure, unique structures to the city etc.

  • Section on new stuff

Rule changes, things added or missing.

somewhere a template for population.

All history kept on a separate page as its all conjecture. I'd also lose the silly list of PRE OUTBREAK GROUPS on the Malton page. Talk about free advertising. In fact the malton page is terrible (apart from the motto), --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

malton's pre-outbreak unnoficial background were written years before monroeville showed up. We must find a middle-group between the current fanfic centred page it currently is and the technical centred information we have for MV and BW. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 21:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Not really, it already exists. Just move it to Lexicon:Malton.--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 01:13, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I was reading my old project the other day, and found it interesting that people had written some description and background history for each mall. This way, the mall pages were interesting and useful at same time. I think something like that will have to be done with the city pages... or atleast for Malton, which background history already exists. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 16:08, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


i was just thinking here, and realized that Category:City is only one option these pages should be categorized on. Other options are

or, like Malton is

which one should be used, and can anyone think of other better options to categorize these pages on ? --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 00:08, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

City,or indeed cities. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I dont like plurals, so Category:City it is. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 16:09, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

3 cities ?

i have just realized that urban dead does not have only 3 cities... it has 3 scenarios, but in two of them there are more than one city. Monroeville has Monroeville, Oak Hill and Newtown, while Borehamwood has Borehamwood, Radleet and Elstree. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 16:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Come on! Their boroughs or suburbs. Just like Brixton is part of London or (thinks) Queens is part of New york. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Or Hilldale in Hill Valley. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Yet they are cities. I understand your point, my city too has a few suburbs who claim to be independent cities, but serve for nothing but a dorm for my city industry. I wont change the category, or how we call the trio of cities, but it was just a thought i had in mind --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 17:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Ah. Thinking. Want to do a sweep of location pages? Get them all moved to the right city?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Ive done all the random buildings in BHW. thoughts of Big Brother House? Big Brother House (Borehamwood) ? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I dont think moving the big brother house location page is really needed. After all, it's an unique location which will surely not be recreated in other future cities. Same reasoning could be used for malls, but there are malls in every city, therefore they need to be told apart. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 23:38, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Monroeville Mall redirects. Appropriate system? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:45, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


Firstly, love the name.

Secondly, any idea of what should go in Category:Malton? I've just started to add things like suburb pages and notable buildings (malls, the forts, etc,) but is there anything else? Linkthewindow  Talk  11:58, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I'd leave it at that. Over the last 2 days ive managed to move every single borehamwood building to its building name (Borehamwood) namespace, then I'll do Monroeville. Should make things a bit clearer. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
All large buildings done, as well as the first twenty suburbs. I'll wrap it up tomorrow, but they are there if someone wants something to do. Linkthewindow  Talk  12:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I think ive correctly categorised every borehamwood page now. What's the next step? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:04, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Next step, once Category:Malton is done, will be create a common layout for each city, and apply it to them. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 14:03, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Shall we make them look pretty too? Linkthewindow  Talk  14:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm running through Monroeville pages first. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I'll be able to do some formatting stuff, but I can't do photoshop. Can anyone do photoshop? Linkthewindow  Talk  14:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Style up! would be an awesome addition to the city pages. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 14:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I've got photoshop somewhere. I'll see what i can do.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

The City Template

i've begun creating the city template. It's based on the suburb templat. Any suggestions for what useful information could be added to it ? --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 14:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Number of players (segregated into survivors and zombies) and a map link would be nice. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
A city flag or logo. Keep the Malton one, add the pictures from the population templates for the other two cities.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Monroeville pages are now all categorised. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:03, 18 January 2009 (UTC)



City copy.png

Roe copy.png

--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:21, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

You're bored? I just logged into my Monroeville surivor for the second time since I made it. The first was when I actually made it. Everyhting is ruined, I have a bunch of equipment, level one, and nothing to do. I'm going to spend the next month trying to either find something to kill for xp, or trying to find a book or something. Seriously, I have no idea how I'm going to get anything done. :/ --Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 19:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Really. Ive got a level one zombie idled. he could try and eat you. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I have a level one idled zombie too. I'm tempted to zerg myself and get XP. :D --Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 19:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I have a better idea, I'll find a friend who still has an alt and doesn't care, and I'll have him shamble over to me so I can repeatedly kill it! Whoo!--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 20:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I have a living alt who just unidled too in South Monroeville! I've been wandering around the city saying hi to zombies who I meet outside ruined buildings. --Pestolence(talk) 21:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Man, I haven't seen a single thing since I started again. MY friend said I could kill his zombie though, so free xp. No head shot perma right?--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 22:26, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
The background on the Malton is noice. --  AHLGTG 19:39, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I just don't know what to do for borehamwood. maybe a diary room chair? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
My main concern with these images is that there is too much detail on them. therefore they draw too much attention to themselves rather than to the article they are merely supposed to illustrate. Im a minimalist and a perfectionist, so, if you are planning to create images for these pages, beware that there are dragons here :) --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 21:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I'll have another go, im putting the malton one somewhere. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Not bad, but Hagnat has a point. Try for something closer to these ones. Linkthewindow  Talk  00:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

color schema

just having a thought here about the layout, and i was defining different colour schemas for each city... malton would be green (the same green seen in the game's logo), monroeville would be blue (the same blue used in the population template) and monroeville would be dark red. Any objections ? --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 22:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

btw, why dont we have a population template for malton like we have for the other cities ? --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 22:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
because you haven't made it yet! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:24, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Meh. I'll do it laters. Linkthewindow  Talk  00:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Why does monroeville have 2 colours and BNW have zero?--xoxo 00:29, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Malton-coat-of-arms.gif Population of Malton

Active Characters: 4284
Survivors: 1702 (58%)
Zombies: 1192 (42%)
Dead bodies: 1242
Revivifying bodies: 148
Standing Zombie Hunters: 1097

stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 12:41, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

-done. Thoughts? Linkthewindow  Talk  01:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Use the green colour scheme from my userpage. --  AHLGTG 01:26, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Better? Going in the right Direction?

Green copy.png

--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

"One does not simply quit Urban Dead. I should know" Hehe. I think it should be less height, more width, but whatever.--  AHLGTG 23:00, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Discuss it amongst yourself, for now I sleep. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:03, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Nice! Gnomes right, it should be longer so it can fit into one of his example userpages (all we really need to do is remove the navbar and change the colors.) Here is an example header. Linkthewindow  Talk  00:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Come for the zombies, stay for the community?--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 00:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Malton-header.gif its a raw idea... --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 01:11, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

It's a start, at least...

Thoughts? It needs a lot more content, as I've only taken the first paragraph from the top of the current Malton page (the rest should be moved to it's own page.) I, for one suggest adding a short (post-outbreak) history and links to other Malton pages. Thoughts? Hagnat's image makes a good placeholder-if anyone else wants to make one, I suggest around 750-800 px across. Linkthewindow  Talk  05:26, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Personally the side bar looks terrible, something a bit less overstated please? Links there can include, malls, forts, suburb map, recruitment page, building types. The number of nt's etc is irrelevant i feel, and the population should easily be editable in haggies template. I'd also darken the background. Hold on I'll try my own. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
A bit like this? User:Rosslessness/Random Rambling/Sandbox31--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:01, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Good, but I don't like the background color (green,) and it would be nice if the image and table line up. Linkthewindow  Talk  21:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Effort! I'm still brainstorming here. hag suggested green so I went that route. Its a problem with links showing up mind. That and spelling. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:51, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah. You might want to change the colors on those external links too/to white or gray as they glare out a bit too much in the current version. Linkthewindow  Talk  22:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I liked link's idea to put the mini-suburb map in the sidebar, and i liked ross idea to place the coat of arms and the link section. I have made some changed to the city template to improve its aestethics value. Maybe if we mixed them all together we could create something nice --22:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

btw, the background of the logo needs some abstract effect... something subtle, not fancy enough to draw attention away of the city name. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 22:39, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't really see why we need opening/closing dates on a Malton template, for Malton we might just be better off subst-ing it in. It will give us more room so we can have all that stuff without having a massive, ugly sidebar. Linkthewindow  Talk  23:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
MY TOYS MY RULES. mpf. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 23:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


We've got three drafts. what do people like, what do people not like? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

We could try one and see if anyone complains. I think the side bar on them could be adjusted though. --  AHLGTG 22:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


Every single page relating to borehamwood should now be fully catergorised and moved to the correct place. anyone else alive? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

i was rather busy in the previous weeks, so i couldnt focus my attention to the project. Will return in two weeks and resume working on it. --—The preceding signed comment was added by Hagnat (talkcontribs) at 19:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
*Wakes up* I'll get the rest of the Malton pages categorized today. Linkthewindow  Talk  22:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
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