User:Bob Moncrief/Talk Archive/2018

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Hola - is "the" not included in the ordering as the group specifically use this to refer to themselves? Like, "The Flowers of Decay", not just "Flowers of Decay". --Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 11:35, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Yep! As far as I know, there's no alphabetization standard in which articles ("The", "A" or "An") count as part of a name or title for alphabetization purposes. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:43, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
Yep, this is why in a lot of alphabetizing you’ll even see them make it more obvious by moving the “The” to the end, like “Flowers of Decay, The”. Aichon 00:32, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
Would it be a good idea then to move "the" and other articles to the end (of the name) in the glossary? As of right now it looks chaotic and non-alphabetical to the average viewer. Dummy991 (talk) 22:34, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
"The" at the end would probably look awkward. I'll just remove the "the" entirely. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:44, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Honestly, I knew this and just wanted to start up some activity. I leave in a week and will be out of action for a year, however, and can't commit to it. Maybe next year. --Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 10:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Building Danger Reports : Methods

Hey, sorry to keep bugging you, but I'd like to ask you a question concerning updating danger reports. As you know, external military reports often have pseudo building reports in them, and would it be valid to update the building report based off these reports alone? In which case, what would be the corresponding danger levels for the various reports? I was thinking "safe" for any survivor positive reports and "ruined" for any survivor negative reports. Well, maybe some of the survivor negative reports would be "in zombie hands" because I think there might be a report that goes along the lines of well... "in zombie hands". Let me know because I want to help contribute to keeping major building reports as recent as possible, without sacrificing accuracy too much or having a lot of alts. Thanks for your time. Dummy991 (talk) 23:32, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Since it's usually an NT or a mall that appears in those reports, I know Bob updates those particular building statuses based on the EMR. So using the EMRs to update any building listed in them is totally fine! I am sure Bob will agree, and probably give you more of an idea as to how he uses the EMR to update the buildings. I just thought I'd jump in and let you know that is was ok :) stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 02:24, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
Totally! I actually cover this in the instructions I wrote on updating DangerReports for the MDU — see item 7 here. I generally use the EMRs to update buildings unless there's been an on-site update that's less than a week or so old. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:28, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Great to hear from you

Hey, thanks for the message. Could you do me a big favor and tell me exactly where all of your characters are located? We'd need the grid coords just to be sure.

See you soon, my man.
--Willvsworld (talk) 17:06, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Well, as of right now, all my alts are inactive except for my zombie, who can generally be found wherever the Scourge is. (We're not very secretive about our current location.) Bob Moncrief EBDW! 13:25, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

I updated the danger levels on Brooksville

Hi Bob! I recently updated the danger levels on Brooksville can you check the page for me please :) I might have missed something. I'm currently waiting for my AP to refill so I can continue with the update. Dr Florante (talk) 01:36, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:22, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


According to the wiki, there are no level 10 decay buildings left. Hook a brother up? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:55, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

I sent a few your way on Discord a bit over a month ago; no idea if they're still ruined though. Once my MDU character is back up and running I'll keep sending them to you over there. (Unless your talk page is easier?) Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:41, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk page always wins!--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:27, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Just another Wednesday on UDWiki

Nobody killed the wiki, but the drama level was appropriately upgraded for the first time in years. It's been a very busy month. A load of A/VB cases, dozens of vandal accounts, someone threatening to rape my (long-since deceased) dog, Historical Group drama, a bomb threat, and even, briefly, a Misconduct case against me. So yeah, you missed a lot while you were out. Have fun catching up. Aichon 17:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm on April 26. Will keep this updated with my thoughts. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:06, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Finished April. Conclusions so far: 1) You didn't mention the text walls. Oh, how I haven't missed those. 2) You're a saint. 3) Nobody ever categorizes images on here :'( Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:31, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Image categorization? What's that?
Oh yeah, I forgot I was the villain there for awhile when I had to do some very unpopular things as part of the job. That was so long ago at this point.
Are you going through #udwiki Discord history as you're going through Recent Changes? It may be fun to do that, since there were a handful of parallel conversations happening there too.
Some of those people you're welcoming right now? You'll be seeing their names more as you go through the next few weeks. ;)
Also, don't leave me ever again. Aichon 19:32, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
You know it! Just finished & posted over there. I skimmed the other channels, but read everything in #udwiki. Gotta say, the level of wiki activity (which, as you said on Discord, is the most we've had in years) kinda warms my heart. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:35, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Also, you're quite the daredevil, but we knew this already, didn't we ;) Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:26, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

It's been a huge text wall, I haven't kept up at all, except to ban a few spambits. Aichon has won, yet again! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:28, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Have I though? Have I really? Is this what winning feels like? Because it doesn't feel like winning. It feels like all the cool kids went to do cool things and I got stuck holding the bag. v_v Aichon 15:28, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
None of us have won until you've won a crat election :P but seriously, if I'm a "cool kid" then nobody told me cool kids work 14+ hours a day for nearly a month (not counting rehearsals and a rotating cast of visiting family members). Bob Moncrief EBDW! 23:04, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Procedural drama. I've missed this. A ZOMBIE ANT 11:52, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

It's more fun when a few of us can play off of each other. Working in concert with another sysop to deal with a situation is surprisingly satisfying. It's not much fun if you're the only one and you're dealing with it from your phone. Aichon 15:28, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you.

Before you told me i did the signing manually but this is way easier so thank you. --Chasval (talk) 16:03, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Certainly! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:38, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Bob, for the welcome and the tip. I most certainly appreciate the help as I am new. Will likely be using your pages and assistance to help both myself and the Wiki grow! --Alexander Brock (talk) 19:34, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Edit Speed

Hi bob, just wondering how long it takes for my edits to actually change the site. --Desert Roamer (talk) 22:34, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Hey Desert Roamer, your edits should be instantaneous. Sometimes if high-traffic pages are edited they may take a minute or so. But nothing short of "practically" instant. THE CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER 11:20, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
There's also a layer of "percolation". If you edit e.g. a suburb DangerStatus, it can take one to ten minutes for it to change the actual map on the Suburb page, for example, depending on the length of the job queue. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 16:06, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Update suburb danger level

Hey Bob, I updated Lockettside's danger level, it shows on the lockettside page but it is not (yet?) reflected on the city map page. Is this normal or did I do it wrong?--EasyDinner (talk) 19:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

EDIT; I just read the comment above, guess that answers my question ;D --EasyDinner (talk) 20:00, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Yup, it can take a few minutes for changes on one page to propagate to other pages. If you want to speed things along, there is a trick you can do: go to the page you want to see updated (e.g. City Map), edit it, and then save it without making any changes. Doing so won't actually change the page's content at all, but it will force that page to refresh any content that it gets from elsewhere. ;) Aichon 20:16, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Spelling mistake at creation of page

Hi Bob, I made a mistake in the title of my page and would like to change it. I'm probably looking for a tab that says 'move' but I am unable to find it.--EasyDinner (talk) 09:52, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Hey EasyDinner, only sysops can move pages I'm afraid. Could you tell me what page you'd like it to be moved to? I could do it right now for you. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 09:56, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello DanceDanceRevolution, I created Clan of the Wooly Rhinoceros but it should be Clan of the Woolly Rhinoceros --EasyDinner (talk) 10:09, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
No problem ED. I've moved the page over. The old page also now redirects to the new one too. May your Rhinoceri remain Woolly. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:23, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks a million, I'll be more careful in the future :) --EasyDinner (talk) 10:34, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
As long as you're creating you can be as careless as you want! We'll be there to help out if things go wrong. Good luck! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:39, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi Easy, and thanks DDR! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 13:44, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the welcome ! Sorry I’m not too savvy yet on the wiki I’m still trying to figure it all out.

Kain markko —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kain markko (talkcontribs) 20 December 2018.

Sure thing! You'll get the hang of it soon enough. ^_^ Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:03, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Most linked to page

You just need like 2000 more links! :D -- SomethingSomething.gif 09:56, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

The main problem is that my various signatures link to other pages, so those get boosted too. Makes it hard to pass Project Welcome when I keep linking to it. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:09, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Also, unfortunately, a few of those links aren't permanent if they are on Dangerreport updates. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 22:12, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Too true! My throne lies upon a house of cards. Although that is a sig race strategy in itself, since one DangerUpdate gets your sig onto 3 or more pages. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:16, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
That’s super clever... you sneaky thing. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 22:28, 4 January 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome. I did have one question as I'm new to editing wiki. Is there a delay between updating the status on the User:DangerReport/LOCATION pages and the actual status on the main location page showing the update? I updated two danger reports yesterday and I ended up dumping my cache for the last 24 hrs to see if it would show the updates on the main as they weren't showing any immediate difference. It shows on one now, but not the other page. Sidicious (talk) 19:08, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:46, 21 December 2018 (UTC)