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This is an Archive of all thingys that were on Krazy's talk page from the year 2008.

January 08


It was an edit war in the making, it was an edit disagreement- the original intended role of arbitration. Their attempts to settle it on the talkpage didn't work- as you'd see if you went to the talk pages of David Grohl, and Jack's Cold Sweat.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not about what was on the Team Zombie Hardcore page- it was about what was on suburb pages, about whether TZH should be listed as a Hostile or Survivor group- due to their enthusiastic "eye for an eye" policy.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  23:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the support. Feel free to join the case, though you'll probably have to be happy with Seventythree as arbitrator. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 03:07, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Arby's II

No problem Cheese, thanks for the tip and the move. I will keep it to the talk pages.--Dhavid Grohl 02:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


When withdrawing a suggestion, you must not remove the {{SugVoteBox}} and {{Suggestion Navigation}} templates. SugVoteBox is essential as it categorizes the page and Suggestion Navigation is still handy, even when the suggestion is closed. The exact instructions can be found here. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 00:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Cheers dude. :) I'm still getting used to this new suggestion format. I'm one of the Wiki Veterans from when it was all on the same page. Then I took a break for a while and came back to find it all changed. -- Cheeseman W!RandomTalk 14:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I already told you about this once, try to remember it! Well, at least you didn't remove the navigation this time... --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 10:29, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I followed the instructions though. :( What did I forget? -- Cheeseman W!RandomTalk 10:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
{{SugVoteBox}}. Don't remove it. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 10:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Shit...meh, close enough. :P -- Cheeseman W!RandomTalk 10:41, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

February 08


Apology?? What the fuck is this shit?? I totally agree with the last two points but this is something I'll never do--Finis Valorum

I'm with finis on that one. In the mean time i will remove the news post on the Dakerstown page. While I will refrain posting anything on the news section that other groups could find insulting, I don't see why i should no longer post in a POV format when the only person who has mentioned having a problem with that is Finis. If i was approached by a member of the Daker's community i would be more then willing to change stop making POV edits. --Jed 03:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


Money tree.jpg Money Tree
Money Really Does Grow On Trees!
--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Step 2

Hey, I think Finis' actions on the Santlerville page are a violation of the step 2 set out in your ruling. I have obliged step 3 however he is continuous reverting news posted by a member of my group. Several members of the Santlerville community have reverted his post, members of my group (The Dribbling Beavers) have attempted contact with him and Suicidal Angel has stepped in and told him his actions are inappropriate. So i'm wondering if arbitration is at all binding?--Jed 23:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


Thats odd, because I just edited it in, and it showed up fine. I guess I edit conflicted with you, and the wiki didn't tell me because we added the same thing in.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Dunno, but like you said, oh well. Thanks.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:14, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
A similar thing happened to me awhile back. That system needs fixing.--Jed 00:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
WTF is this shit in A/VB?--Finis Valorum

Images with stupidly long filename

About this, don't just label the problem fix it. Reupload the images with shorter files names and have the long ones deleted under Crit 1 for pointless duplication.

If there are too many to get to then just categorize them and fix the ones you can I can take care of the rest later on. Remember to update wherever the image is being used with the new file name to avoid breaking anyones page- Vantar 17:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Neither Criticism or Praise, but Curiosity

Aside from spamming the changes page and generally bizarre content, might not some of the images being used by User:Xela798 constitute copyright infringement? For instance, I doubt that American Express sanctioned Westward_Financial --Bette Noir 02:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey This is the doctor

dindt get the message sorry i dont look right away. Can you take a look at my page it is disorderly and im confused on how to fix it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xela798 (talkcontribs) 19:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC). Ok i will sign them and thxs ~~~~

Vandal Banning

Stop permabanning the alts. If they are actively vandalizing en masse revert, report, and temp ban. Let someone else decide whether they are in fact alts. --Karekmaps?! 23:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

feral frenzy

given the strength of your convictions on this vote how may I sway you? If you can be more specific as to what it is you don't think works then please let me know. Cheers.. --Honestmistake 00:47, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Your sig

I might be able to help, but I'd have to see the code first. But yah, if you can give me a link, I'll have a look. I'm not the best editor though, so I might not be able to help!--SeventythreeTalk 10:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I can't see any problems with the code. The only thing I can think of is you might have linked up the wrong page in your preferances. By all rights the Nickname box should read {{SUBST:Nosubst|User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} If that doesn't work, then I'll have to take a look at some other stuff.--SeventythreeTalk 14:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, make sure you have the "Raw Signatures (without automatic link)" box ticked as well.--SeventythreeTalk 14:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Tis cool. I'll look into the info on the help page. It shouldn't be wrong.--SeventythreeTalk 14:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Yeah. If I where you I would get into contact with the autor to let him know. I think its Dux, and he's pretty helpful when it comes to that sort of thing.--SeventythreeTalk 14:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I might could help if you still need it.--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|ZC|MI|E! 04:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up

Thank you, for clearing up the tagging chef page thing for me in the deletions voting page. If it was not for you, I would still be thinking someone was trying to delete my group page.--Jamie Cantwell3 22:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thak you so musch

Thanks i apreciate that if you want a job in the company thier is always a place for you. Dr. Sinclair


The case is now starting.--Karekmaps?! 01:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


Yup. You get a few like this every now and then. Best we can do is keep reporting them.--SeventythreeTalk 12:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I guess. I can't for the life of me figure out what they get out of it. I mean, its not like their vandalism can't be fixed in seconds.--SeventythreeTalk 12:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Could be. You would have thought that any self respeciting "vandal" would have better things to do than arse around on a game wiki though.--SeventythreeTalk 12:47, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


I just wanted to thank you for fighting for the SGP page and keeping the rules original rather than with Finis' Edits. Whether he belongs on there or not is for the discussion page, but he has no right to edit the Rules. Thanks again! Johnny Crow 18:10, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.

I can tell you are a valuable asset to this Wiki. If you need a favor, i'd be more than happy.--Chairman Davis EvilUmbrella Corp.gifOur Business is Life itself 23:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Wiki Advert

I wonder if you might be able to help me understand how to create a recruitment advert on the wiki? I tried to follow the guidelines, but the advert was removed, so I thought I'd better learn how to do it properly before I create another. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -- Rick Best 20:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Cheeseman!!

Thanks for your help - you're a life saver! -- Rick Best 20:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


Don't bother with Nubis' comment, it's not a vote, so what he currently has there won't be taken into consideration. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


Sure, I'll support you to be a sysop -- Rick Best 11:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC) Do I vouch on your talk page? Wow, I'm really not very good at this.

I can't possibly imagine it being any more complicated than it already is. Anyhow, I think I've vouched for the right person now.

A Template For You

Hi Cheeseman. Let me get to the point. I've made this template to protest the rampant abuse of the Spam Vote on the Suggestions page. If you support me, please put the template on your page and spread the word. --Hhal 18:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Cheers dude. :D Yoink. -- Cheese 19:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for smacking that thing over there.
--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:D Yay!! Cookie! -- Cheese 15:20, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for some weird reason I don't even remember. Was it the hidden camera?
*Another hidden camera pops up, but Axe is ready this time. He takes out a pistol and blows the camera to hell.* Damn cameras... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for solving a quiz and making me go crazy over some cameras.
*Looks around the room and sees an army of cameras.* Oh shi- --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for solving a quiz which I don't remember what number it was...
*In the background you can see Axe fighting off an army of cameras.* --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:10, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for blasting me into space after solving a quiz.
Can I get a nice big air tank up here? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for watching too much Pokemon.
Mudkips.jpg u herd rite...
dis user leiks mudkips
It's a shame, isn't it? The only good season was the original season (the one on Kanto, I think it's called?). After that, everything goes downhill. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:( I know. It was good, then it just got crap. -- Cheese 18:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for solving 41.
--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for solving 42 and making it 8 in a roll.
At this rate, I should be out of cookies soon.....Where'd I put those Oreos? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for knowing his American Idol.
--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for wishing happy birthday to Alaina Whitaker.
--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Mudkips.jpg u herd rite...
dis user leiks mudkips
American Idol.jpg American Idol
Axe Hack believe(s) Krazy Monkey is the next American Idol.
Literally, I wish you weren't... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 13:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for interviewing Miley Cyrus.
If I'm correct, you've won the most prizes so far... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:15, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Yay! :D Go me!! -- Cheese 14:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the save

Very odd about Roachtown - I've been off this wiki for a while - seems my old ID was deleted (it's my UD character, which is still there, so I know it's the same). I clicked the link to edit a SUBcategory under Recent News - and the whole damn thing changed!!! o.O I have ~no~ idea what happened. Check out my (reposted) edit - I'm no guru, but it's not my first barbeque. meh - I think I could have figured out how to revert in history, but at that point I was in panic mode - thanks! :) --Swingin' Sam 23:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

feral frenzy.

i avoided putting a limit on because random chance should already limit it to no more than 5 actions anyway. I think a ot bof people just saw the -87AP thing and screamed no before they realized that it would be amazingly rare to get even 6 straight hits let alone 87!!!Ah well, to be honest i am a little disappointed but at least it was killed rather than spammed!--Honestmistake 02:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Question, oh Master

I was looking for info on how to "Redirect" - and it was in an obscure location. Finally found it, and I thought "aha! I'll make a redirect for the word "redirect"!" It won't work.

Tho' I dutifully copied the URL and code (and the other Redirect I created works fine), this one just won't cooperate. Any chance your wisdom and experience can shed light on this?

Page w/ Redirect Info: (or just )

"Redirect" redirect page:

Swingin' Sam 01:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Promotion bid

Third times the charm, your promotion bid has been successful and you are now a sysop. Congrats - Vantar 10:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! May ye be more reasonable then existing sysops.--xoxo 11:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to the cool guys club. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 17:01, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations old man. I'll be pestering you for favors soon enough.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 22:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Congrats on the promotion, and thanks also for your vote of confidence--SeventythreeTalk 22:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Abuse your powers........Now!--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Cheers guys. :D I'll do my best not to break anything...not too much anyway. :P -- Cheese 22:23, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


thanks for the message

yea thanks for the message. and dont worry, i know com 5, im sure he wont get too mad at me.

March 08

Monroeville Many

Thanks for the message, I love xela. He's great. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

really? Amazing. I also thought that she was also tomer and dr. sinclair. My three favourite wikiers all in one. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:25, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Bless her. Anyway, just to let you know, if you're ever dead, and in West Monroeville the Many Will welcome you with open claws. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
My word, Xela is a girl! That is something I never would have expected, however I thought that Tomer was Xela's troll. Ack, I'm rather confused. Still I just want to take this moment to thank you for all the work you're doing for her, her messed up group pages and for the messages encouraging her to sign her posts on talk pages and in general! I salute your patience towards her and give you this esteemed cookie and milk for it:
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Acoustic Pie has given Cheeseman/Krazy Monkey a cookie for for all your patience and wiki knowledge!
Milk.gif A Free Glass of Milk
Acoustic Pie has given Cheeseman/Krazy Monkey a glass of milk for {{{reason}}}.

Milk and cookies, the best darn thing to come out of this wiki! Also, thank you for the message you put up on Monroeville Many's talk page before, I'll put in a quick message at the top to remind future users how to sign posts, and that being annoying gets you nowhere, however thank you once again. Enjoy your milk and cookie. Acoustic Pie 22:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow non tomato tomato sauce! How did you know? Thank you very much. Acoustic Pie 21:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

proof? proof? PROOF?

i thought i just needed 2 months and 250 edits...if you check A/VD and my contribs you'll see i have both! --xoxo 05:18, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about my page...

About my page...

I created a page of just mine, then realised the User: page thing, so I decided to just redirect it. My mistake! DS TlkDevW!+1 16:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Random ramblings, etc.

It is my page, I created it ages ago. Its in the main space, when it should be under my user, shouldnt it? I've never bothered to move it. Where should it be?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Please do. Also User:Rosslessness/Random Rambling probably has at least one other link on it that needs moving. I give you permission to move whatevers wrong. And thanks--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
You sir, are a legend. As thanks, have my favourite template.
Handinhanddp1.png Kill It Forward
This User or Group Kills it forward.
Killed in Monroeville? kill someone else!

--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for banning Kirayamato, he/she was really annoying and was a pain cleaning up after.--Bill Striker 22:15, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

seriously, grow a pair

I don't know what kind of mod you are, nor do I know what kind of mod Karek is. But neither of you sound like good ones if you don't have the courage to perm-ban The Three Page Wiki Vandal, the most infamous vandal to ever come to UD. Thre page wiki vandl 23:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Dude, I became a Mod about a week ago. :P I don't want to get my keys taken off me already. I like my ban hammer. -- Cheese 23:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


For the timely bannage. I'll just continue trawling the contributions, make sure we got everything.--SeventythreeTalk 22:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Heh! Thanks for your sysop intervention. Pretty speedy response actualy...... You get a cookie

Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Seventythree has given Cheeseman a cookie for for banning a pesky vandal and saving all us non sysops a lot of time playing whack-a-mole with recent changes!

--SeventythreeTalk 22:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, whoever they where, they're gone now. one less silly bugger.--SeventythreeTalk 22:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


Greetings Vandal, you have 24 hours to undo your vandalism concerning my old image. You shall revive the picture and change all links I originally created back to the old version. Good luck. I hope you succeed. --Wowbagger 18:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Im confused

im am so confused with this i need assistance. i heard what you said about me i am very disapointed. --Dr. Sinclair 18:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


Nope, I'm okay. I just had to eat something. I'm a hungry person. --Officer 123satsitx 22:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Your wikifying

Is greater than mine! --PdeqTalk* 19:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Ack, this crazy sig!

Hmm, my sig has never been my strong point, so cheers for helping out! But I think it's still slightly broken. Trouble is the date, for some reason it always does this when I try to change my sig, which isn't exactly good. So would you mind fixing it for me? Thank you Acoustic Pie 20:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

When I remove the space between }} and 20:51, it seems to work. Have you tried taking out the new line before the <noinclude>? --PdeqTalk* 20:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I know what you mean. I'll take it out and see what happens. Acoustic Pie 21:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Ah ha! That did it, thanks Pdeq and to you too Krazy Monkey, your help is much obliged. Acoustic Pie 21:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
No probs. :) I was just about to post and say that that seemed to be the problem. These template sigs can be right bastards sometimes. -- Cheese 21:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
ha, cheers and nice template! It certainly should help out some of those newbies who are constantly forgetting to sign! Still, thanks again, my sig was looking a little long before so I thought I'd change it and get it sorted out a bit, but no, that would be too easy. Hmm, this crafty wiki, sometimes I swear it's out just to cause trouble. Anyway I think I'm fresh out of templates for you...or am I?
Pretty Ratty.jpg A rat, and it's for you!
Acoustic Pie has given Krazy Monkey a rat for helping with the sodding signature!

Oh how I love these templates. Still thanks again and good luck with your template =D. Acoustic Pie 21:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Moar Xela Stuff

  • Nevermind then, but if i get edited i will report it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xela798 (talkcontribs) 21:09 13 March 2008.

Mall Tunes

You, Iscariot, and Suicideangle are the only one's who seem to have a problem with the mall tunes, there are over a dozen people who have contributed to the mall tunes over the last 6 MONTHS its been up. It was neutral until you assclowns starting taking it down. Its good fun by those how ARE ACTUALLY IN GIDDINGS MALL and god forbid the players have fun and roleplay the f-ing game.--Happykook 23:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The one's who keep jacking it up are ALL ARBITERS, how fair is that??? The mall tunes was up for over 6 MONTHS!!! but all of a sudden last f-ing week its a big problem? You want to lock it fine, how about locking it the way its been for the last 6 months untill these jackholes started the fuss over NOTHING!!!--Happykook 23:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Great, now Iscariot is undoing all my wiki adds on other pages, you wanna tell him to quit jacking my stuff up???--Happykook 00:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I acknowledge receipt of, understanding of and compliance with the esteemed sysop's decision regarding the 'Mall Tunes' section of the Giddings Mall page. -- Iscariot 00:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe we edited at the same time. As above I respect and abide by your decision regarding the page to prevent an unnecessary edit conflict, however in the cases where I have edited after the user in question, one has been to fix the tabling, and the other was to remove a POV statement that was in contravention of the spirit of your ruling. -- Iscariot 00:11, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
In response to the defamatory statements below I'd like to point out that my edit history shows compliance with both the line and spirit of your ruling. I notice that the danger report has references to the music in it, but have not reverted it in compliance of the decision. -- Iscariot 00:18, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
yea, Iscariot is happy as hell, as your decision gives him EXACTLY what he, and his buddies wanted in the first place. For not taking sides you did. What would be neutral would be to list mall tunes but put music is on hold, that would be fair!

-Addition - Well he's still editing my posts acting like a sysop. Its nice to see that he gets away with anyting he feels like, and i get the shaft. Its nice to see how neutral things are around here--Happykook 00:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Sysop/Closing suggestions

Hey Cheese! Have I said congrats on getting sysop yet? Anyway, I'm here to nag you to use a sysop function. Typically, when a suggestion is closed (like you closed this one), everything after the divider ---- is removed (e.g. in Suggestion:20070826 Personal Stash). Since you've protected that page, that means you're it... ;) Well, or another sysop, but I figure since you did it, you can fix it. :P ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 01:16, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Eh what? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I'll do it! (He means remove the voting rules template I think)--SeventythreeTalk 01:20, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Go knock yourself out. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:21, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Done... --SeventythreeTalk 01:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Dammit, you guys are too helpful! Cheese, I guess you got off the hook this time... *shakes fist* ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 01:39, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Jamie Cantwell3's "Template:ME LIKE TO TAGG!!!"

Thank you for moving my template to the right place, I would like to try and make other templates. When I go to make the other template pages, should I always start off by calling it "Template: example,” should I do this. If so please tell me so. --Jamie Cantwell3 22:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


Ah! A game quiz! Very nice--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 00:21, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

It makes it easier to come back now that Mr. Neon has been perma-banned. :) And a cheerful welcoming froma total stranger is always a nice part of the day! xoxo --Morgueasm 19:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

A good way to meet people, as well! If you're ever in Roftwood, you're more than welcome to stay with us! (the MMS) --Morgueasm 02:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Don't Fuck With People's Sigs

Unless they are breaking some rule. He's allowed to sign like that if he wants too and the text of his rebuttal is far worse than the sig anyway. You're just stirring up more crap.--Karekmaps?! 02:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


Holy crap...someone jumped on the bandwagon! Time to link to you....By the way, try linking to Bronz93's quiz as well. He started the first quiz thingy. And I must consider stealing some of your prizes... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC) know, Airborne88 and I were discussing a possible wiki group based on quizzes on his talk. Care to join in? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Guest Quiz? (moved from Quiz Talk Page)

So...what's the snitch on having a guest quiz? I have a bunch of very old video game magazines, including some old OPM, Game Informer, GMR, EGM2, and a bunch of others that might make quizzes interesting...And as well as a few cheat codes.... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Nice. :P I'll make every tenth one a guest quiz so if you want to get a question cooked up that would be pretty good. -- Cheese 23:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
For crying out loud, I have magazines from the 80's!!! And how do we sign up to be a guest host? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Just send me a quick email using the email user link or send me a PM on the Randoms forums (I'm Cheeseman Muncher). :) --Cheese 16:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
NOOO! My most linked to pages count!!! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Lol. :P I'll put a link to your page on the Winners page to make it up. -- Cheese 23:19, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm being forced to make one extra edit to get by Matt! NOOO!!!! (Seriously, you don't need to do that. It's just one post.) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't matter. :P I was going to do it anyway: User:Krazy_Monkey/Quiz/Winners#Running_Total -- Cheese 23:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I challenge you to a race to pass Matt...even though I am one step behind him... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Cracks Neck* You're on. :P I have to quadruple my post count but yeah. I can do it. -- Cheese 23:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Alright then. I'll be welcoming 1 newbie a day. Which means you have about 100 days to pass me. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Cool. :P See you on the other end. -- Cheese 23:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Um..OK...I just don't have 100 have 62 days... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:55, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Lol. :P I love a challenge. -- Cheese 23:57, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Quiz Prizes

Thanks for playing! Here are your rewards!

Broom-prize.jpg Pro Survivor
I found a broom? While surviving a zombie onslaught at
Sergeants Emporium(Quiz)

-- Rogue  Sergeant Sarge1.png 21:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

The Next Giddings Mall Wiki War

Ok, i've abided by your decision, i left the mall tunes alone, as much as i didn't want to. Iscariot has, since your intervention, gone on a PKing spree harrassing my character in game (Happykook) and his group (Friends of Happykook) with his character Cliff Spab (check his page you'll see its his character). I have the screenshots to prove his harrassment.

Now he's unediting all my info on the Giddings Mall page in regards to the Second Big Bash, keeping it set to his POV, and claiming that his opinion is the only CORRECT OPINION and any other is a POV...

I was going to let the mall tunes thing fly (even though he got his damn way) but now he's harrasing me in game, and on the wiki in other areas, i'm getting pretty fucking sick and tired of getting shafted here while he sits back and laughs while you sysops get his back...--Happykook 23:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)+

How do i file an arbitration? I want a restraining order filed on Iscariot, so he cannot keep editing all my damn posts. This is f-ing dumb. I didn't pay kevan a good bit of money to have this game ruined by a sysop suckup (Iscariot) who's got nothing better to do than harrass me both in game, and the wiki!--Happykook 23:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
This page here. If Iscariot agrees, I will arbitrate. I know whats going on. -- Cheese 23:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I filed for arbitration, i have no desire to exchange any communication with Iscariot, can you inform him a claim is filed and get the ball rolling?--Happykook 23:52, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
There is no definite, factual truth that the update won the siege and even if it did, that's not the proper way to word it. It makes it sound like someones POV. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Well than, explain to me how having the "BEACHEAD TACTIC" listed in there is OK, but mentioning the update is not, when it was the update that created the f-ing beachead tactic in the first place? How is it ok to mention the tactic used to take the mall (which came from the update) but not ok to mention the update?--Happykook 23:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


Here you go!
SargeMartLogo1.png Sarge Mart Gift Certificate
Cheezeman has been given a gift certificate to Sarge Mart by Sarge. This certificate is worth 500 cookies and is only usable at Sarge Mart.

--Sarge1.png SargeTalk|Home|ACC 23:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I hope Sarge Mart isn't under heavy investigation because of me... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:28, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Edit conflict

go to hell, will ya ?! lol. When i created that header i was trying not to get edit conflicted, and you did exactly that by grammar patrolling me! --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 17:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

An email I sent you

The conflict has been resolved (whether Boxy did it without telling me or it went away on it's own, I don't know) so help is no longer needed :) --Vault 14:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Kook's Farewell

Cheese, thanks for the help, but i've decided to close out my arbitration. Iscariot is an asshole and the arby isn't going to stop that. I've decided to leave the game, He's just the last in a long line of dicks that has soured this game for me. Take Care--Happykook 23:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice

Actually i was trying to clarify some points that i...forgot to be sufficiently clear with (and some others they seem to have forgotten reading). i think i need to redo the whole suggestion better as this has gone haywire. Have You, Almighty Cheese, any other practical advice for my uneducated (read:noob) zombie-dragging suggestion-trying self? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dott. Agasa (talkcontribs) 23:01 25 March 2008.

April 08

My Vandal Data

I believe I am more than deserved of a warning or something to be stricken from my record. The problem is, I don't understand how many strikes I am available for, as I know it has been two months since my last infraction, but I'm not sure on my number of edits. I do know that I am at least eligible for one. So if you could strike that for me, thatd be awesome.

Awesome having someone who is not so overbearing as a Sysop. So glad you got elected.--CyberRead240 07:41, 4 April 2008 (BST)

you can only get one a time,so yeah read you qualify. go here to check your edits, make it viewable as 250 edits and you can match up if you've made enough. and you can go here to check when your last infraction was. Once this one gets struck you have to wait a month and 250 edits to get the next one done...i'm in the process of getting mine struck as we speak.--xoxo 07:47, 4 April 2008 (BST)
Yeah I am up for definitely one. Thanks for the tip Jed --CyberRead240 07:51, 4 April 2008 (BST)
can you strike me another while your at it plz? fanks.--xoxo 02:23, 5 April 2008 (BST)


Hey, my timestamps aren't showing my correct time. I'm not 100% sure but am fairly confident they used to. However we had a change with daylight savings so i adjusted the time in my prefs one hour and now the timestamp is 13 hours off...any clues? Thanks.--xoxo 07:00, 9 April 2008 (BST)

Time zone? The server is currently running on British Summer Time and is timestamping in that for people who haven't changed the default. Normally they use UTC until BST comes around but, I kinda doubt they were ever right for you though.--Karekmaps?! 12:08, 9 April 2008 (BST)
So the timestamp can't be changed? Wow i was fairly sure it used to be right for me. Probably just end-of-daylight-savings induced fatigue...--xoxo 13:20, 9 April 2008 (BST)


Would I have a case against ScoobyDooDoobie for a wiki banning since his account was clearly made in poor faith to troll and grief anyone not a member of his group? If you view his history here ( ) and just click on any number of (diff) links, his comments are nothing more than insulting and condecending. He uses the wiki like a forum for the single purpose of trolling and griefing. Please advise. --Sigpistol1.gifShowcaseTalk 23:29, 9 April 2008 (BST)

Sysops Bid siggy says it...I might as well uphold it...

Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Krazy Monkey a cookie for stuff.
--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:27, 11 April 2008 (BST)


You and your evil edit conflicts while I was distracted on Arn's page...Maybe I shouldn't open multiple tabs while doing this... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:00, 11 April 2008 (BST)

Lol. :P Probably would be a good idea. Plus I can protect the pages as I go so I can do both jobs at once. :P -- Cheese 20:03, 11 April 2008 (BST)
Me and my multitasking...Hell, I'm evening typing my Mock Trial homework right now! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:05, 11 April 2008 (BST)

Um...Why did you cycle the April 2nd suggestions today? Did you not look at your calender? Today is actually the last day of voting. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:49, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Well...Too late to undo your mistake now. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:06, 17 April 2008 (BST)
Whoops. :S I was half-asleep when I was doing that I think. I'll make sure I check the dates in future. -- Cheese 16:56, 17 April 2008 (BST)
Either that, or drunk. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:09, 17 April 2008 (BST)

Peer Review question

Hi Cheeseman, could you please tell me how long it generally takes for a suggestion to get moved into peer reviewed (assuming it has enough keeps vs kills)? Thanks in advance for the answer. --Tselita 20:07, 11 April 2008 (BST)

Are you talking about a particular suggestion? Or just suggestions in general? -- Cheese 20:08, 11 April 2008 (BST)
Well I'm mainly asking because I have a couple of suggestions up for votes, and one's been up for 5 1/2 days now (the other's only been up for 1 1/2 days). Both have a lot of keeps and not many kills, and Karek had been sort of ranting to me in a discussion on one about how the first suggestion (Sledge Hammer) was going to go to peer review. So then I started wondering how long that actually does take. On a related note I wanted to know how long it takes for Talk:Discussion subjects to go into archives (I've had some in there for almost a week without having made an update on it, others i've abandonned, and still others which have already gone through the voting process). I'm still sort of new to all this and have only been doing this for a couple of weeks. --Tselita 20:13, 11 April 2008 (BST)
It's ok. :) Suggestions stay up on voting for 14 days (2 weeks) so everyone can have a say. Discussions don't get tidied very often, however I'm going to do a bit of cleaning of the old ones in a few minutes. -- Cheese 20:15, 11 April 2008 (BST)
Tidying? Yes you are...Especially since I was planning on doing the cycling. Ah well. I'll get it before you next time. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:17, 11 April 2008 (BST)
Two weeks? Okay thanks. It was beginning to get hard to remember which suggestions I've made since I've made a lot in the last couple of weeks. My characters are in red zones surrounded by red zones, on both ends of the map, and so I'm sort of bored, and when I get bored I get creative. Verbosely creative. Oh Hi Axe. The mudkips army has been fed by the way.--Tselita 20:19, 11 April 2008 (BST)

Problem in Talk:Discussion

The talk:discussion page is majorly messed up and I have no reason why, but it's not letting me add a comment to my speargun discussion comment. Help! It's like the editting is all screwed up for everyone's suggestions --Tselita 23:10, 14 April 2008 (BST)

What's the rules for moving something from Talk:Discussion into the Overflow? I have 4 suggestions in talk:discussion which don't need to be there anymore - 3 have already gone to voting and 1 I already abandonned. All have been unchanged for over 6 days and it hasn't been moved. Am I supposed to move them or is someone else, or is it automatic after a certain amount of time? I'm only asking because I'd like to reduce the size in talk:discussion to prevent more template breakage. Thank you. --Tselita 16:08, 15 April 2008 (BST)

Struck vote

Since when do Keeps have to have any justification? If they need no justification then logic dictates they can't be struck for having it there as a user option, regardless of content. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 19:49, 15 April 2008 (BST)

Hmmm, knew about the one at the side, but am sure I've read something that says keep votes don't need justifying, though I can't find it at the mo. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:06, 15 April 2008 (BST)

Vandalism? Would this be impersonation? --Sigpistol1.gifShowcaseTalk 03:09, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Why do you think we have the Vandal Banning page for? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:12, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Beats me. The question was if it qualified...A simple yes or no answer would have been great. Your answer isnt much help at all. --Sigpistol1.gifShowcaseTalk 03:14, 16 April 2008 (BST)
It probably does. Now quit it while I try and get this to A/VB...And just because I'm multitasking doesn't mean I can't get it there without being edit conflicted... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:18, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Fucking edit confs...yeah its impersonation.--xoxo 03:19, 16 April 2008 (BST)
I would have done it. I was just a bit gun shy after the last one and wanted to get confirmation beforehand. If you're gonna put that one up, you should put all the other ones from The Dead's talk page up as well. :) --Sigpistol1.gifShowcaseTalk 03:23, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Now...I think I shouldn't have 10 tabs open at once... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:24, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Well, thanks for the help. Next time I'll just use your talk page to ask my questions ;) --Sigpistol1.gifShowcaseTalk 03:27, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Huh...You know...I don't think it'll be vandalism if they don't sign under Marty Banks... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:29, 16 April 2008 (BST)
Eh, Im sure you wont lose any sleep over being such a snappy prick when I asked about it :) Now, perhaps you see why I was looking for a bit of guidance. We'll both wait with bated breath to see how they rule. heh. --Sigpistol1.gifShowcaseTalk 03:36, 16 April 2008 (BST)


Pass the word that thier is an all survivor group meeting at the Sixtus General Hospital in east greyside. --Dr. Sinclair 20:16, 21 April 2008 (BST)

Oh yeah, fabulous idea. Because you've never tried to lure a survivor group into a building, then spill the location to zombies before.

Quit bullshitting, it's obviously a trap. Jill Valentine 20:22, 21 April 2008 (BST)

No we need to meet, the zobie situation is out of hand. --Dr. Sinclair 20:25, 21 April 2008 (BST)

No offense but you have about 3 members in your group. You have been around for a couple of months tops. The Randoms have over 60 members and have been on the go for over two years. We have our own way of doing things, that's why we're so awesome. I personally have seen nothing of your group in-game except a few empty threats made to Randoms allies in Buckley Mall, so forgive me if I don't drop everything and head for East Grayside. If you want to discuss anything, I prefer to do so outside the game on our forums. I'm not wasting AP on an "OMG teh zambahz r sooo powerfool, how can we beatz dem?" kind of situation. -- Cheese 20:58, 21 April 2008 (BST)
I believe with all my heart and soul that the zobies can be beaten with spellcheck --Tselita 01:05, 22 April 2008 (BST)
This zombie wonders what zobies are.... -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 19:15, 22 April 2008 (BST)
They're the evil ded who luch around and eat brans! :) --Tselita 19:22, 22 April 2008 (BST)
Mmmmmm...bran. Ma haz bran! :P -- Cheese 20:52, 22 April 2008 (BST)


Not sure if I should be asking this or not... It's about Zambargh the Ravener - he seems to be harassing me? Was fine with him posting inane stuff on his votes against my suggestions (he insults me there but meh), but what the heck is with what he wrote on my user page? Am I able to delete that, since it's on my user page?--Tselita 00:25, 22 April 2008 (BST) --Tselita 17:23, 23 April 2008 (BST) - Decided not worth being concerned about since 73 said I can delete the posts he was making on my user page

Sledgehammer Suggestion

It's been 15 days since I first put it up to vote. Should it be going to Peer Reviewed now? --Tselita 00:23, 22 April 2008 (BST)


Well as you may know, in the past there have been several run ins with this user, however as I was reading over her contributions I couldn't help but notice the utter rubbish which they put up on the wiki regarding their group Sinclair Hotels. From what I have seen almost every single one of their contributions is linked to the group. However their wiki skills do not seem to be improving, at all. For instance they still had to have their contrib to Kempsterbank removed for putting it in the main suburb part without NPOV. Their contrib to Krinks power station was removed (by yourself if I am not mistaken) and they still can't format wiki pages correctly, as seen with Byewell Bank and it's picture of 'a bank'. I'm also failing to see the point behind the various sub-groups as put in the current branches. I know this may be kind of 'wrong' seen as you would be signing off your own work on it, but from what I know of the group there is no way in hell that a group of that size could contribute so much to the game, nor the wiki. Also there is blatent overuse of categories on pretty much all of the sub-group pages, let's just take the Main Page as an example. On there I am seeing a fair few conflicting categories for a start and I can guarantee that it continues. So after all this, I come to you, asking for advice. I would like to take them to arbitration to get them to use the wiki correctly and to stop making pointless extra groups and for them to do something constructive to the overall wiki, however I'm not sure if the reasoning behind it is good enough to warrant a case. So yes if you could advise me what to do or point me in the right direction it would be much obliged. Thank you. Acoustic Pie 00:54, 24 April 2008 (BST)

Okay thank you for your input, I'll go around and ask SeventyThree if he'd be interested first as I don't believe he has had a case with her yet. Once I have a reply I'll either get started or have to ask someone else. So thank you once again. Acoustic Pie 18:31, 24 April 2008 (BST)
Well, as you saw on the deletions queue I managed to sway them towards removing them from the wiki. However seen as they were requested by the user should I just move the whole thing (votes and all) to the speedy deletion queue? Or should I get Xela's vote on it first? Hopefully I can manage it so it won't result in an Arbitration case, and I have given them a target to reach by the end of may. If this is reached then it'll mean that they will be a decent contributor to the wiki community (who can remember to sign their damn posts!), but if not then it's off to Arby. Either way it should be interesting to see what happens. Thanks again for your help with what to do regarding all this, but it's nice to see the pages being deleted as a start :D Acoustic Pie 21:37, 30 April 2008 (BST)
It should have been speedy deleted by the SysOp who made the third SD vote, I'll check it again and delete it.--Karekmaps?! 05:37, 1 May 2008 (BST)

Hello there, me again. Quick question, just out of personal curiosity could you please run an IP check on User:Parisish0t, User:BRE123 and User:Xela798 for me please? I was just adding more stuff for her to do so I don't have to take her to Arby and saw Meritz Hotels and Stratuphere Hotels, both follow similar group box bits and haven't done anything else besides work on the Hotel pages. Heh, I think you had a word with Parisish0t about it, but it this whole thing just got me wondering about the IPs. Still, I hope all is well with you, I'm currently around a busy point in my life, hence why you may not have seen me very active recently. Thanks and have a nice evening. Acoustic Pie 15:19, 20 May 2008 (BST)

I can't check that far back unfortunately. Checkuser has it's limits. I think you could get away with putting the pages up for deletion though as there doesn't appear to have been any work on them for a while. -- Cheese 16:12, 20 May 2008 (BST)
Ah well, that's a bit of a shame, but no matter! I'll have a look about doing that a bit later on this weekend. Thanks for your help anyway. Acoustic Pie 20:50, 22 May 2008 (BST)


Stick a new timestamp on the Random's recruitment ad, it risks removal otherwise. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 00:37, 23 April 2008 (BST)

And again dude. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 00:00, 7 May 2008 (BST)

May 2008

*Clears throat*

Looky here. I've come back from the dead. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:16, 7 May 2008 (BST)

So have I! :D -- Cheese 16:08, 7 May 2008 (BST)
I was thinking of wiki dead...So,, what drama occured while I was gone? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:45, 9 May 2008 (BST)


Hey dude, understood loud and clear on why you shouldn't promote your own character on the wiki. I wasn't promoting my own character though, or even a friends character for that matter. The character i spoke about in my edit is a character in game who stays in that factory, tags the factory as being his, tags the surrounding area directing players to his factory, and for all intents and purposes has developed a backstory to what is just a factory at the edge of the map. Can i go ahead and put the redirect back in? Thats been Don Wesson's factory for almost 2 years now! -- MiniGemmel 01:00 13th May 2008 (GMT) -- Ok, thanks for explaining why. MiniGemmel 17:00 13th May 2008 (GMT)

delta 33 and the imperium must die group

i think i got this right, thanks for understanding my problem, for the arbitration do i requsest a arbitrator create a title and put forward my case of quote removal and offensive material towards friends? --Delta33 00:11, 14 May 2008 (BST)


I misunderstood the impersonation policy (as in I thought there wasn't one for some silly reason), and I promise not to repeat the behavior. Being that the forged comments were removed, and your point was understood, is it alright if I remove the warning box from my talk section? --Pac8s (timestamp-06:35, 17 May 2008)

Ouch... Okie dokie then. --Pac8s (timestamp-16:55, 17 May 2008)


If you look at his page, he's also done it to Factory 76,19. --Amanu Jaku 10:56, 17 May 2008 (BST)

Sorted. :) Nice spotting. -- Cheese 10:58, 17 May 2008 (BST)


I assume you've just read the summary I put in for my most recent edit and read "revert" and made the rest up yourself? If you'd look the newbie changed the wiki link to a non-existent page while attempting to put things into American poor English. Feel free to go ahead and protect a page for someone fixing an internal link. That's showing all of us who think the moderation on this wiki is half-arsed what for! -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 23:48, 17 May 2008 (BST)

Nailgun v2.0

I need to close nailgun suggestion because of the sock puppets. If they show up on the new one can they please be removed before the suggestion gets too far underway? I put Nailgun v2.0 in talk:Suggestion before I bring it to vote.--Tselita 06:52, 19 May 2008 (BST)

Shouldn't the nailgun suggestion just have gone to Undecided since even after the removal of the sock puppets, there were 59 keep votes versus 24 kill and 10 spam? It's probably a moot point since I'm making Nailgun v2.0, but I'd rather not have the non-sock-puppet people who did legitimately vote keep have their votes not count. We're not Florida after all. :) Sorry needed to joke, I'm very frustrated that this happened hours before it was going to end, and I'd like to at least know that it will have a possibility of being -seen- by kevan which, if it's sent into the ether, it never would be, thanks to the stupid sockpuppetry --Tselita 16:11, 19 May 2008 (BST)

I think it would have been Undecided even without all the socks. Which is actually not too bad. -- Cheese 19:14, 19 May 2008 (BST)
I know. So could we put it up as Undecided then, and I'm still putting forth Nailgun v2.0 to try to improve on it? Just in case Kevan bothers to read undecided suggestions, since it was pulled like an hour or 2 from the end? And I would like people to be able to see the v1.0 and v2.0 with an easy search. Unless there was a major sock puppet revival in the other direction in the last 2 hours (which would also be struck), that's where it would have been going anyway, because I was just checking. After striking the morons who were sock puppeting, there are still 59 keeps. Compare that to 24 Kills (many of which were from one group) and 10 spams (some from the aforementioned group) - it seems that there was a more varied response for keep than kill. There were sock puppets from apparently around 5 people on one side (running 2 or 3 accounts each, from what I read in Grimch's comment), and uniform group-speak of one group from the other side. Especially since the only reason I pulled it was I thought Grimch was saying I had to pull it, then I read his later comment which said I didn't have to, but I had already sent the message to you by then. --Tselita 19:24, 19 May 2008 (BST)
I don't know. :/ I'm not sure I would be allowed to as there could have been more votes in that space of time which could have swung it either way. Also, if we put this in Undecided then folk are just going to Dupe vote the new one as it would be about the same. -- Cheese 16:18, 20 May 2008 (BST)
Cheese, 2 things - 1) The only way it would have gone from Undecided to Rejected would be if in the last couple of hours there was a sudden influx of 27 kill and spam votes. Which would probably be more sock puppetry. 2) How would it be a dupe if they're both my suggestions and one is just an updated version of the first one? Could you please put it into Undecided so it'll at least be seen? I'd really like to not reward sock puppetry and had I known that it DIDN'T have to be removed, based on what Grim was telling me at first, I would never have asked. Thank you. --Tselita 18:53, 20 May 2008 (BST)
Ok. I shall move it to undecided. You've twisted my arm. :P -- Cheese 21:53, 22 May 2008 (BST)
Thanks. Much appreciated, you're the best. Still working on Nailgun v2.0 but I first want to get my other ideas out there. It'll probably go out in a week or so. --Tselita 22:31, 22 May 2008 (BST)
Undecided is pretty good, considering what you suggested. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:52, 22 May 2008 (BST)
Thanks :) But it's more like Pretty good, considering ow there was an entire group dedicated to trying to kill it by voting en masse as a collective block. If they hadn't done that, would have definitely been peer reviewed. Still going to do Nailgun v2.0 though - I won't turn them, but some of the others may be willing to cross over with the new modifications --Tselita 23:05, 22 May 2008 (BST)
If I read this right, it says - people who are pro-zombie are voting against pro-survivor suggestions! ZOMG! --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 23:41, 22 May 2008 (BST)
You didn't read it right, then --Tselita 00:39, 23 May 2008 (BST)
You two argue too much on other people's talk page, you know that, right? I say it a last time, Arby's will resolve your conflict. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:44, 23 May 2008 (BST)
Sorry Axe. --Tselita 01:01, 23 May 2008 (BST)

misconduct voting

hi. could you vote on my misconduct case ? Vote for, vote against, just vote. I just want this thing to be over. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 02:57, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Nailgun v1.0

For some reason, Nubis took Nailgun v1.0 out of Undecided becuse of the sock puppets. Can you please put it back in Undecided and explain the reasoning for why it should be kept as undecided despite the 11 sock puppets? Thank you. --Tselita 15:40, 25 May 2008 (BST)

How did I know you would come whining here about this even after I clearly explained my reasons: Due to the sudden appearance of 11 sock puppets which make a total sham of my suggestion, I'm closing this and making Nailgun v2.0 - please check in Talk:Suggestions for details - thank you. --Tselita 06:40, 19 May 2008 (BST)

{{by author because of the appearance 11 sock puppets}} Category:Removed Suggestions
A page that makes it easy for authors (and others) to find suggestions that they (or others) remove from voting, in case they want to discuss, reference, or revise them.
Hopefully Cheese understands if he moves this from the proper category there is a case for vandalism for a bad faith edit. Or more likely Misconduct. Why not just let Nailgun V 2.0 run its' entire course during voting and not remove it to give it a fair chance. You already know that it will be watched for sock puppets.
You can't request a suggestion be placed in a category it doesn't belong in when you close it. --– Nubis 06:23, 26 May 2008 (BST)

As is often the case these days, Nubis is entirely correct. Since you removed the suggestion, it goes in removed suggestions, not undecided. I told you repeatedly that you didnt have to remove it and you did. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 10:41, 26 May 2008 (BST)
Yeah but I made the suggestion when the survivor/zombie ratio was quite different than it is now and I'm not so sure I want to bother to pursue it now. So now if I don't, a ton of votes go wasted just because a few (or maybe 1) shmucks sock-puppeted. And back then Grim_S, I took your suggestions more seriously before the harassment stuff, since they were coming from a sysop. --Tselita 15:13, 27 May 2008 (BST)

Thermopylate stuff

I did not vandalize the wiki... That was my group page, I can do with it as I please... Unless you are referring to something else... --Thermopylae 00:48, 24 May 2008 (BST)

No, I have not made any edits on that page, but if you'll observe here, you'll see that I am the leader of said group.--Thermopylae 00:31, 25 May 2008 (BST)
Oh, that was because I was going to disband the group (I also was going to suggest deletion...) The only other member I had went MIA and I joined a human based group...--Thermopylae 02:26, 26 May 2008 (BST)

Tselita's Talk

Learn to understand before throwing idiotic accusations around, I wasn't making the comment to troll her I was making it to make a very clear and obvious point, every single word in that comment has purpose and meaning.--Karekmaps?! 17:49, 25 May 2008 (BST)

3000 characters of TEXT repeated ad nauseum. Only purposeful and meaningful if you are Real Gamerz. --Tselita 17:52, 25 May 2008 (BST)
Man you're dense.--Karekmaps?! 17:53, 25 May 2008 (BST)
Aye, coz the word "TEXT" repeated 650 times makes a lot of difference to a discussion doesn't it? All that is, is trolling and inflames the situation further. Which is a bad faith edit and therefore by extension, since it's the spamming of a page in bad faith (we've banned people for less), is vandalism. Regardless of whether there was an intended point, it just makes you look like a moron. -- Cheese 17:57, 25 May 2008 (BST)
Grow up, there's no bad faith about it and the fact that you can't see that there is an obvious point behind it makes you look like a moron. Read through the reply chain, I even go into the point a bit, the fact that TEXT repeats itself enough to for a literal wall also has to do with the meaning behind the comment. If a report is filed it would be a petty report simply because she doesn't like the commenter and would prefer to be a vindictive bitch instead of simply doing the grown up thing and removing it. Ruling vandalism would be incompetence in the extreme, claiming it's bad faith just shows you don't understand what is meant by bad faith, her not understanding the message and not liking the poster does not make it bad faith.--Karekmaps?! 18:03, 25 May 2008 (BST)
Grow Up <-- I'm not the one who had to resort to repeating the word TEXT repeatedly to make a point. -- Cheese 18:08, 25 May 2008 (BST)
No, you just resorted to calling it bad faith without actually trying to figure out why it was done in the first place.--Karekmaps?! 18:09, 25 May 2008 (BST)
Do we have to be having an incredibly pointless conversation like this on a Sunday? :/ It's too nice a day outside for me to argue. I'm too cheerful. -- Cheese 18:12, 25 May 2008 (BST)
I don't know, will not having the conversation make you actually do your job right instead of assuming Bad Faith?--Karekmaps?! 18:13, 25 May 2008 (BST)
I am doing my job right. What is it with you and Grim and calling folk inept? Imma go help Gnome with the Speedies instead. At least that way I'm doing something useful. -- Cheese 18:17, 25 May 2008 (BST)
Your comment on my faith makes it very clear that you aren't. I call people inept when they do something that I think reeks of not knowing their job, you did it by assuming bad faith and so I replied by calling you inept for calling me a vandal.--Karekmaps?! 18:21, 25 May 2008 (BST)
Seriously, I want to know how to go about reporting Karek for vandalism. --Tselita 18:10, 25 May 2008 (BST)
Stick a report into VB. Thats about it. :/ -- Cheese 18:12, 25 May 2008 (BST)
So you know, he was doing it to point out the hypocricy of her calling walls of text done by others trolling while she continues to post her own walls of text even now. A little thought goes a long way. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 18:15, 25 May 2008 (BST)
He's doing it to be a trolling shmuck. And cheeseman can you give me a link to do that? I've never used VB before. --Tselita 18:16, 25 May 2008 (BST)
yes you have ignoramus --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 18:18, 25 May 2008 (BST)
Actually that was just me going to a link that ALHG sent me when you accused me of vandalism on my own page. Didn't realize it was the same place I go for accusing others of vandalism. Oh and since you needed to call me a name after the word 'have'.... you're a putz. --Tselita 18:34, 25 May 2008 (BST)
And to think you would have done something, like maybe notice that it was vandal banning because you were accused of vandalism and people were ruling both vandalism and not vandalism and vandal banning was in the pages title and vandal banningwas in your task bar and when you were editing it would be saying Editing UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning (Section). With all these clues even the dimmest dullard would figure it out. I have to say this is the clearest evidence we yet have of you being completely incapable of taking a hint. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 00:12, 26 May 2008 (BST)
If she actually makes a petty VB complaint against Karek please just go ahead and paste my Not Vandalism vote KTHX! In the course of the conversation it fit. Maybe he's a jerk, but he's not a bad faith vandal. --– Nubis 06:33, 26 May 2008 (BST)

This discussion is closed. Do not add any more to it as it will just be removed.


Welcome to the team. I might make the project a tad less hostile to users that want to wholly embrace the sandpit, although we would prefer if you kept the sandbox anyway :P --xoxo 13:10, 26 May 2008 (BST)

Lol. :P I only need the one. Duplication of effort that way. I don't see how folk can have 7 of them. :/ Thats just greedy. -- Cheese 13:11, 26 May 2008 (BST)
Yeah i hardly even use one...but this is an ethical issue so i'm willing to have a surplus sandcontainer.--xoxo 13:13, 26 May 2008 (BST)
hahaha...just noticed your talk page is a removed suggestion... ;) --xoxo 13:14, 26 May 2008 (BST)
Fair dos. All we need now is a template. Purely for laughs. And yeah, thats because Nubis broke it up there ^. I'll just leave it. :P Kinda funny. -- Cheese 13:16, 26 May 2008 (BST)

Sandpit.jpg Sandpit Revolution
This user is making a stand!
, thank me later.--xoxo 12:24, 29 May 2008 (BST)

Fanglord2 asking about the page u keep deleting

ok i never noticed the messages i thought i never saved it or my coomputer was glithching i nver knew it was vandalism creating a page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fanglord2 (talkcontribs) at 22:42, 26 May 2008.

and i also nver knew the page was being duplicated im so srry lol i was about to report you for vandilism. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fanglord2 (talkcontribs) at 22:45, 26 May 2008.

hey do you play urban dead or you just a random person that makes sure everything goes right?--Fanglord2 22:49, 26 May 2008 (BST)

how do you become Sysops and if i cant i was wondering if you would like to be an allie of SG-1 im the leader. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fanglord2 (talkcontribs) at 22:55, 26 May 2008.
what am i supposed to do in the policy disscussion anyway like just talk about what you think is better for the game 9but thats probly suggestions) im not sure so if you could tell me.--danny/dan 23:21, 26 May 2008 (BST)
i requested an alliance on the forums and by the way u got an awsome forums page. what type of things are disscussed in the wiki and what would should be discussed like i read it and im not sure so if you could help me that would be apreciated.--danny/dan 23:21, 26 May 2008 (BST)
kk first things first im not trying to be rude but im not new at this i have been doing this for a few months now im getting the hang of stuff and i have already put a suggestion on the suggestion pages but i think someone deleted it cause i cant find it anywhere.--Fanglord2 23:31, 26 May 2008 (BST)
lol nvm i just found now lol--Fanglord2 23:32, 26 May 2008 (BST)

Met Fan

is this how you do it? I am new at this--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Met Fan (talkcontribs) at 22:14, 27 May 2008.

Ok, signing my name goes like this...?--Met Fan 23:42, 27 May 2008 (BST)
Hey again, I need something. How come when I search my name (Met Fan) I dont come up with anything? Met Fan 21:56, 9 June 2008 (BST)
I just search "Met Fan" for my user page and nothing comes up. Try it. Nothing comes up... Met Fan 22:05, 9 June 2008 (BST)
Ah I got it. Now I feel stupid. Silly me...also, is there a way to find templates? Like can I search for them on any subject template? Met Fan 22:09, 9 June 2008 (BST)


You have to accept the ruling so Axe can close out the Arby. And that means that you have to accept his ruling that you should have put this against Iscariot, not Me... --DoctorRevive 21:41, 28 May 2008 (BST)

KM here did state that if Iscariot edits the article again, KM will be dragging Iscariot to Arby's, whether he likes it or not. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 10:52, 29 May 2008 (BST)


"...what's Scotland like?" asks Nick with childlike innocence.--Nallan (Talk) 12:34, 29 May 2008 (BST)

June 2008

Sieg Heil

Mein fuhrer, zince you do not know how ze proxies work, I vill explain. I use ze proxy zince ze school I go to does not allow for ze internet. Zere are only zo many proxies and I am not vat you call ze zock pooppet of DeadManWalkeeng. Ven I get ze internet at home I vill give you ze golden bananananana for ze ztupidity you have zhown.

Heil! --The Horror, the Horror! Make the bad man stop mommy Cause I respect you so much The Malton Globetrotters#Pi - הפוסל במומו פוסל לְהִתְעַנֵג הוֹמוֹסֶקסוּאָלִי סֶקס אֵת אִמָאZaphod Beeblebrox 16:14, 13 June 2008 (BST)

Random forums

Light Switch Suggestion

I am considering a revision of the current Light Switch proposal currently being voted on. What is the procedure for amending said idea? Tarumigan Ackland Mall Security Tarumigan

Damn man. Funt is good at this dupe finding stuff.

Aye, well - I wrote the Fallback suggestion, so that one was easy. Under the old suggestion system, I used to cycle the suggestions on a daily basis, and I reorganised the whole Peer Reviewed page. That stuff's ingrained in me, for better or for worse. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 15:14, 3 June 2008 (BST)

Possibly a wee bit too much in the way of spare time on your hands there? :P -- Cheese 15:39, 3 June 2008 (BST)
It was that or studying. Easy choice. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 16:32, 3 June 2008 (BST)
Fair point. :P I've spent most of my study leave on here. Much more fun than revising. -- Cheese 16:38, 3 June 2008 (BST)
I have got to learn how to find dupes without relying on Iscariot (and apparently Funt as well now) for when I make my next suggestion. --Tselita 16:40, 3 June 2008 (BST)
Easy peasy. Run a search in the Suggestion and Main namespaces for keywords from your suggestion. That should find most of them. -- Cheese 16:42, 3 June 2008 (BST)
I always wind up finding a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with suggestions at all. I should just read through every past suggestion instead. :) --Tselita 17:06, 3 June 2008 (BST)
Good luck with that. :P There's plenty there to keep you busy for a couple of weeks. -- Cheese 17:36, 3 June 2008 (BST)

Mock Suggestions

Is there something you can do about DrPain, Gardenator and Zaphod Beeblebrox with the mock suggestions? Please do not tell me that any of their suggestions or comments are legitimate. DrPain with his antisemitic remarks, Gardenator making two talk:discussion suggestions obvious to try to bully me, and Zaphod Beeblebrox making one to bully DrPain (and I do feel he deserves it but the Talk:Suggestions place isn't the place for it - it's going to spam up the whole page at this rate)

Can you either delete those three, put it in overflow or maybe have a section for humorous talk:discussion suggestions? And in case anyone says Windex should be a humorous suggestion, I legitimately suggested both of them (and one of which was almost the same as Pruning). I'm probably not going through with Windex only because it's so similar to Pruning, and I'm on the fence about the Decorations one. Neither of those suggestions have been made to MOCK another user though, unlike Gardenator's (and Zaphod Beeblebrox's)

In addition, I've been having to deal with DrPain continually commenting on even my votes, even on other people's suggestions, where it's not HIS suggestion that he's re'ing too. I'd really like someone to finally do something about it because sysops like Nubis clearly won't (being a self-declared Goon himself) This behavior is becoming more and more infantile. --Tselita 18:29, 3 June 2008 (BST)


Use your super sekrit sysop skills to remove that truly shit "protect" suggestion.--KOOKY 22:42, 4 June 2008 (BST)

Polite Spam Request

Hi KM/Cheese. I just wanted to draw your attention to item 4 of the Spam removal guidelines, where it requests that you "be Polite and make no additional comments". I noticed in your removal of a recent suggestion that you said "Nuked!" as the edit text and "lots of loverly tasty spam votes" in the Spam template.

Please, don't do that kind of thing: it's bad enough all the comments that get made in Spam votes, and bad enough that someone has their suggestion shot down, without the removal edits also adding insult to injury. Especially from a sysop, I just don't think it's a good move. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 09:34, 5 June 2008 (BST)

not trying

to delete it, just blanking ir per orders of the first.--Jakezing 13:08, 5 June 2008 (BST)


I am merely here to post the warning that was supposed to be issued upon the resolution of your A/VB case here, which was ruled on, finally, by Nubis on the 1st of June, bringing the results to 3 vandalism, 2 not vandalism (With Hagnats not vandalism struck as it was ruled as misconduct). The warning has been backdated to the day Nubis ruled, the 1st of July. Anyhoo, do not strike the votes of other users unless they are sock puppets, mm'kay. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 17:03, 5 June 2008 (BST)


After a month of discussion and voting, you have been found guilty of misconduct. --People's Commissar Hagnat talk - mod 01:17, 8 June 2008 (BST)

This seems so true...

What does? This:

Gnomeland security.gif Gnomeland Security
Gnomeland Security have their eyes on Axe Hack.

But I'm sure he's watching you as well...

Gnomeland security.gif Gnomeland Security
Gnomeland Security have their eyes on Krazy Monkey.
--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 14:53, 8 June 2008 (BST)


You do realise that the suggestion hasn't been implemented at all? The text may have changed, but the AP cost remains the same. The suggestion specifically tries to make this a free action. Now go and fix the suggestion and put it back into the under voting category.

It's not like we discussed this on the talk page or anything.... -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 18:42, 19 June 2008 (BST)

Implemented, along with a few other items that were still giving unhelpful default responses. Thanks. --Kevan 17:26, 19 June 2008 (BST) - If the big guy says its implemented, then there is very little point in voting continuing. Regardless of whether it costs an Action Point or not, the suggestion has achieved what it set out to do. Don't like it? Then go moan to Kevan. Don't come onto my talk page making demands. -- Cheese 18:47, 19 June 2008 (BST)
Iscariot makes a valid point cheese. Only part of it has been implimented, as i can attest having just tested it myself. The rest of the suggestion is still undone. Im reverting it. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 18:56, 19 June 2008 (BST)
All done. Ive added a note on the page regarding the "implimentation" --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 19:09, 19 June 2008 (BST)


Does that mean if you hit me with a stick tasty things fall out? OM NOM NOM! *runs into wall* Also LOOK AT MY WELL FIT PAGE NOW ^^ there were smiley faces on the navigation bar but Hicks couldn't see them so I had to put blobs instead; for now anyway. I has a cunning plan! - Love from Swing XOXOXTalk 17:14, 22 June 2008 (BST)

Looks pretty shiny! But Cheesus, omg ! OMG! YOU HAVE UT3?!?!!? YOU MUST PLAY WITH ME NOW >:O AND WE WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD OF WARFARE! MWAHAHAHA!!!!!1 *dances* - Love from Swing XOXOXTalk 03:33, 29 June 2008 (BST)
I have UT3? :S That's news to me. I'll need to get it methinks. :D -- Cheese 14:41, 29 June 2008 (BST)

Ignoring Gardenator

I'd be happy to ignore him, if he'd stop respond-posting on every single post I make anywhere on the wiki. What did I say on Kevan's page that merited his response like that anyway? --Tselita 01:18, 24 June 2008 (BST)

You don't need to respond back though do you? Just ignore him completely. The reason they are making posts like that is because you're rising to their bait. Just completely ignore it. Don't respond to it in anyway. They'll get bored eventually and move on. -- Cheese 01:21, 24 June 2008 (BST)
It doesn't work. For the last week I hadn't been responding to anything they said, and it didn't deter them, it just means they increases the amount of harassment done. Seriously, what did I write on Kevan's page worth his making the snippy retort? That I fixed a building for 20AP? And I responded by saying WHY I was fixing it for 20AP, for several good reasons. --Tselita 01:25, 24 June 2008 (BST)
There's no point even responding civilly. You'll still get flamed. Just ride it out and wait for them to move on. Someone else'll become worthy soon enough methinks. Plenty of drama around these days. -- Cheese 01:27, 24 June 2008 (BST)
Bullies (especially ones who are not at risk of getting punched in the face, like internet bullies) tend to not 'move on' until their targets finally crack, but your point is well made and understood. --Tselita 01:40, 24 June 2008 (BST)


Only sysops have the rollback button, fyi. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 13:31, 24 June 2008 (BST)

I know. I'll mention that in the article. -- Cheese 13:33, 24 June 2008 (BST)
Me is so fuckin tired. Tell the dancing elephants to shut up for me. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 13:33, 24 June 2008 (BST)
Dancing Elephants shut up and leave Grim alone. :P -- Cheese 13:34, 24 June 2008 (BST)
Thank you, now the normal hallucinations can help me get some sleepys. You beat me to the edit anyways. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 13:37, 24 June 2008 (BST)


For your recent contributions in attempt to clean up ALiM. God knows it needs it.--CyberRead240 15:52, 24 June 2008 (BST)

It really does. I don't think it helps that you, Nick and Jed are all from Oz. As a result, you guys all see things in your version of English. Therefore, there are differences between what might seem funny to you guys and what might seem funny to other English speakers from the US or from the UK in my case. So to get the list to seem a useful and amusing part of the wiki, you need to have folk from different places giving their input. That why you get an overall funniness rather than just funny to one particular area.
I'm not saying what you've got so far is bad, far from it. Quite a lot of it is very good. But there are a few too many cock jokes and misinterpretations that aren't really deserving of their place there. I'll keep looking for more stuff that can get rechecked though. -- Cheese 16:14, 24 June 2008 (BST)
The problem is, the list and idea have such potential that wont get reached unless people decide to join in, which you are doing now. Also, I will be the first to tell you that I have had my gripes with the auto-inclusion of anything with "cock" in it. Sometimes it is the building type that makes the name funny. (ie Cake Walk, Heming Way, Broke Bank etc). So yeah, I am anti-cock jokes for sure. Please continue to put locations up for review though, we need to weed out the crap.--CyberRead240 16:21, 24 June 2008 (BST)
Ofuck. You mean I share a country with those imbeciles? Thanks Krazy, you just made my night. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 16:37, 24 June 2008 (BST)
No probs, Bob. :P -- Cheese 16:39, 24 June 2008 (BST)
Disregarding the silly trolls comments, I should let you know that I really only have minor involvement with ALiM. It is Nick and Jed who really run the show, I merely do schooling with Nick so I feel somewhat compelled to contribute. Maybe a little bit of collaboration with them could bring out the true potential. They are surprisingly creative people, in comparison to what you saw tonight.hahaha.--CyberRead240 16:51, 24 June 2008 (BST)
Lol. We'll see. I'm currently trying to sort that weird problem you guys seem to be having with the section shifting. I'm customising a news box similar to the one on the main page which should hopefully fix that. Give me a few minutes to test it. -- Cheese 16:53, 24 June 2008 (BST)

When bored, the templates come

Crazy-monkey.jpg Play on Names
This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? A crazy monkey. You so crazy.

I got bored. I made templates to increase my template-making skill. Play on Names. Fun for the whole family. Enjoy. --Tselita 21:57, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Two Names=Two Templates

Cheeseman.jpg Play on Names
This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? It's a bird.... it's a plane... it's CHEESEMAN!

You really do need a cape, yknow. Enjoy. --Tselita 22:56, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Heyo Supercheeze. Need to ask what I should be doing with the templates. Not sure how to merge them or even if I have to, since it seems like there's a whole lot more Keeps than Delete or Merges. Let me know k? I have 4 new templates ready to put up. Thanks. --Tselita 17:13, 3 July 2008 (BST)

What have you done to ALiM??

She is less sexy!--xoxo 09:44, 25 June 2008 (BST)

I'll tell you what he did...He tried to get in a building that's named after him on the list...And I thought it became less smexy... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 10:45, 25 June 2008 (BST)
This is the third time we've been down that road. The Duke Hotel, The Gage Museum and now this garbage -when will you people learn?--xoxo 12:43, 25 June 2008 (BST)
You have the Axe Grove. I'd like to consider it being partially named after me. And it's already on ALiM, so no worries there! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:11, 25 June 2008 (BST)
Feel free to lolify the Axe Grove page as you desire. Cheesy what happened to the piccys? They are all outaline...--xoxo 03:33, 26 June 2008 (BST)
What do you mean? :S They look ok to me...give us a screenshot. -- Cheese 12:13, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Question to ask

I thought having two different wiki accounts was not allowed. Am I missing something? --Tselita 17:37, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Yes, you are. For starters having multiple accounts isnt prohibited. Secondly, User:Druuuuu/Ocular is a user subpage. I have almost 20 of the suckers myself (subpages). --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 17:39, 26 June 2008 (BST)
Ah, didn't realize subpages could be alternate user names like that. K --Tselita 18:16, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Sorry! I tried to fix it, but it just fucked up worse. Thanks for sticking it out while the rest of us blunder through wikipedia! - Doctor Violence


I can't believe we didn't invite you! There's only a few hours left to sign up for this, so if you're interested, check out Gnome's talk page. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:32, 30 June 2008 (BST)

July 2008

Is This vandalism or what?

This little zerg group of pkers made up a page for a new group that is allied with The RA just to slam them. This group has also altered the Regulators Alliance front page as well. Is this vandalism? Or can we at least get it up for speedy deletion? --Evl kitty 02:55, 1 July 2008 (BST)


While the top case may very well be crap, the bottom one appears to be sincere. Let them both fizzle, its not as though arbies is a real admin page anyway. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 15:52, 6 July 2008 (BST)


Krazy Monkey said:
No matter how much you whinge, moan and complain you will not change my mind. Resorting to personal attacks is not the way to go about things. Now please, accept my ruling and stop playing the victim. If you don't like the way things are run with "stupid syops" and "rules" then leave. It'd only take a single click to go to a different site or close the browser.

This coming from a fairly vocal detractor of mine back in the day? For shame. --brb, church DORIS CGR U! 02:18, 8 July 2008 (BST)


Why'd you move my page you dirty vandal? ;O - Love from Swing XOXOXTalk 18:34, 12 July 2008 (BST)

Coz I did. :P It's now got it's own home in the Random's subpages. That's all that's different. :D -- Cheese 18:38, 12 July 2008 (BST)
You ruined my colour scheme :( - Love from Swing XOXOXTalk 18:28, 13 July 2008 (BST)
Ok, I am a professional; I can work with this <.< :P. You on IRC later Cheesus? - Love from Swing XOXOXTalk 18:36, 13 July 2008 (BST)
Hopefully. :P Still recovering from last night/this morning but I should be on for a bit. -- Cheese 18:43, 13 July 2008 (BST)


You know, Duke Garland copied and pasted that code in 5 seconds......err...spent hours slaving away over the {{WN}} template, you guys take three seconds to screw it up. Jesus, I put in the no includes because they did include the timestamps in the first place! --User:Axe27/Sig 21:47, 12 July 2008 (BST)

I did put it back. :P I think. -- Cheese 11:22, 13 July 2008 (BST)


Does your email link on here work? I want to contact you. Mine does (or should) if you want to reply. I need to confess my undying love in a super sekrit way or something. :) --– Nubis NWO 21:51, 12 July 2008 (BST)

Yagoton news archive

I think you may have speedy deleted Yagoton/News Archive by mistake.--Luke Skywalker 14:38, 13 July 2008 (BST)

Fixed. I think I clicked the link to have a look, then deleted it in a moment of brain lapse. -- Cheese 14:41, 13 July 2008 (BST)

Page moves

Yes, but I don't see the same thing happening to groups like RRF.

Plus, TFN is not news about only the fortress. We mainly do malton and other news, while keeping one article about each squad that gets replaced every 2 months or so. So putting the name as The Fortress/News isn't what is applicable.

Looks like the solution Cheese found works for everyone? Most groups actually do have their pages either start as Group Name/Page name, or get moved there. I've been working my way through the ones that don't, but it takes time. --PdeqTalk* 01:45, 16 July 2008 (BST)

Your Flak Jacket Suggestion

Hey, I made a post defending that suggestion in response to a 'Kill' vote. If I'm stepping on your toes or anything by doing that, feel free to remove it. --JaredSPA 20:44, 17 July 2008 (BST)

K, never mind, it got removed by someone else. --JaredSPA 20:51, 17 July 2008 (BST)
It's cool. :) Don't worry about it. If you want to defend someone else's suggestion, use the suggestions talk page. That way it won't get removed. -- Cheese 21:01, 17 July 2008 (BST)


Thanks for moving my sig page to the correct page--Skyvia 16:16, 18 July 2008 (BST)

My good man

Thankyou for your diligence, but we are a group! We should likely have made this more clear. By the by, do you have a spare pair of gloves? --Certain Clothing 09:46, 19 July 2008 (BST)

You should. :P And I'm afraid I don't. I have an extra sock though if that's any use. -- Cheese 13:12, 19 July 2008 (BST)

Just a small clarification

Your BoUST count is a little off. It was really 30 Keep, 5 Delete, 5 Merge, 1 Meep and a Bassoooon. Note the 'o's in Bassoooon. You used 2, there is 4.

If you think this was a serious gripe, then I guess being a SysOp requires a Humorectomy. XD --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 13:14, 19 July 2008 (BST)

That's how many 'o's were in the vote. :P So I took it as read. :D Plus Bassoooon sounds cooler than bassoon. -- Cheese 13:18, 19 July 2008 (BST)

Special Event Hoster

Because I Had Previously Made That Page Awhile Back And Wish For It To Be Deleted ASAP i currently Dont Know How To Delete A Page Just Wipe It. I Hope This Clears Things Up.

--Rotten zerg 13:28, 19 July 2008 (BST)

  • Understood thanks for understanding and I would of used the other account if I could Remember it

--Rotten zerg 13:35, 19 July 2008 (BST)

    • Ok I Will Login Into It Later On I Have To Do Some Stuff First

--Rotten zerg 13:38, 19 July 2008 (BST)


I feel like this case got missed beneath the mass of text above it, since no one is ruling on it. Just figured I'd point someone to it. --PdeqTalk* 20:26, 20 July 2008 (BST)

maybe a few moar sysops wouldn't go astray... ;) --xoxo 12:10, 21 July 2008 (BST)

Sysop Sub Groups:The Cheesy Version

Lost interest? :( --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:26, 23 July 2008 (BST)

Lol. No. Just had a ton of work to do IRL. :P I'll get it sorted out soon. -- Cheese 23:38, 23 July 2008 (BST)


Was that an official warning you put on our talk page? For changing a heading on a discussion on our own talk page? Especially since the section is a discourse, we suspect we have the right to redefine it on our own talkpage anyway we like, surely? It's not as if anyone would think Blackboard would put that heading on themselves.... we'd like to argue for a removal of this warning, if it is of an official nature. Especially in the light of the editor you are defending adding their own insulting heading to our entry on their talk page, (which, admitedly, we changed) and the whole discussion centering around the user in question and their abuse of the location of the group we represent on the West Boundwood listing --Crabappleslegalteam 01:27, 1 August 2008 (BST)

It is an official warning. And yes for changing the header on your own page. Precedent rules in this case as it has happened before several times. The warning stands I'm afraid. And if you provide a diff link for this other editor doing the same I will quite happily pursue the matter further in their case. -- Cheese 01:30, 1 August 2008 (BST)
Alternatively, you could look through diffs and contribution histories so you know what's actually happening before warning. This would be the link he's referencing I think(notable as it happened before Crapbapplegate's edit).--Karekmaps?! 01:49, 1 August 2008 (BST)
As a word of explanation... the first post ever on my Talk page was from Crabappleslegalteam and was utterly header-less. In the interest of fairness, I didn't specify any guidelines for posting there, but I thought it was reasonable to label and organize it at my discretion. It was not meant to be specifically pejorative; we were engaging in mutual whingy nonsense. If that warrants a warning, that's fine; new or not, it's my responsibility to act according to guidelines. I do, however, feel it was inappropriate for Crabappleslegalteam to change not only the original header I had on their page, but ALSO the header I put on MY page. Can I change it back without being penalized, or is there a formal process I have to follow? Or, if it was illegal in the first place, could I put some sort of neutral formatting in the interest of organization? Thanks! Blackboard 03:14, 1 August 2008 (BST)
As you can see, even the so-called 'wronged party' appears to be surprised by your judgement. Is there literally a rule in which no-one is allowed to change a heading created by anyone else? This was a heading over a discussion on our user page - henceforth, it was no longer the representation of anybodies thoughts. As admitted, it was in retaliation for our own statement being attributed a similar heading on the other users page..... creating a heading and editing a heading above a discussion started by whoever is to do the same thing. Furthermore, anybody looking into the situation can see that these discussions revolve around Blackboard moving a group heading from survivor heading to Pker heading, therefore changing the representation of a group in a very public space against that groups will, and against evidence, and ignoring our own warning regarding report of group listing misuse. That we duly reported such gross misconduct, and that a warning was still withheld in the hope the situation resolves itself, and yet that we recieve an official warning over casual interpretation of rules, is galling. Official warnings should not be thrown around so arbitrarily, especially when there is no conflict regarding such headings, and especially when there is no attempt at subterfuge - in the end, we consider this an unjust ruling, and appeal that the sentence be revoked, your honour--Crabappleslegalteam 00:05, 2 August 2008 (BST)
Actually, didn't Blackboard amend it again, to which we did nothing? If that's so, this mark on our record is therefore even more unjust!--Crabappleslegalteam 00:10, 2 August 2008 (BST)
The issue is one of attributing commentary to a user falsely, the header issue comes up because headers are usually made by the commenting user and often are part of or related to the comments being made(for example if I made a header called "X user bitching" it provides different meaning than if x user made that header.) That being said it's not a common type of case and isn't so straight forward. You might be best off trying to talk it out with Cheeseman and/or Blackboard and try to work out some sort of agreement or compromise, the fact that neither one of you were the ones reporting it might help the your case if neither one of you really mind the changes made by the other one.--Karekmaps?! 09:25, 2 August 2008 (BST)
Well, to be honest, it's all just a bit of fun for me. When it stopped being fun, I basically said "Let's just drop it" and Crabapple seemed to be in agreement. I thought the line through the heading was adequate, as it showed a sort of mutual vandalism - and really, who else is going to read it but us? And for the record Crabs, you're right - I didn't complain about it. In the immortal words of The Dude - "You're not wrong, Walter, you're not WRONG..." and I prefer to resolve things on my own. And, we did. Basically, all I want to know is whether or not I can change the header on my page. Crabs, any opinions on this? And remember, the rug (er, the warning you received) is not this issue here, dude. Blackboard 15:09, 2 August 2008 (BST)
As far as we can remember, in the past people used to have far more control over their own user talk pages than this - anyway, the heading changing is, forgive the pun, small change compared to the initial issue, or any other issue that actually does warrant something as serious as an official warning - Blackboards not bothered, we're not bothered (incientally, Blackboard, on top of everything else, you've just used 2 terms for us which mark you as a likely proxy for a member of MAF, on top of everything else.... and we're not the Crabapples - we're their lawyers!). And ironically, cheeseguy, doesn't your disclaimer ironically proclaim you reserve the right for yourself on your own talk page for which you gave us an official warning for doing? Not to call you a hypocrite or anything....--Crabappleslegalteam 00:45, 3 August 2008 (BST)
Wait, the MAF are the only people who abbreviate? Come on now. Maybe we're ALL members, just sitting at home, twisting our mustaches and plotting your demise. Blackboard 01:25, 3 August 2008 (BST)
It's just those coinciences keep mounting.... anyway, we know you're a MAF proxy - it's even you who put the MAF back on the West Boundwood listings, isn't it? of course, we realised you may be too embarrassed to be a member of the biggest bunch of propagandists and slanderers in game and on the wiki...--Crabappleslegalteam 00:19, 4 August 2008 (BST)
Ugh. My apologies, Krazy Monkey. Crabbie-poo, why do you think I noticed you moved them in the first place? I was, however, acting independently, in the interest of having an impartial page (if you know what impartial means). And like I said, and will repeat, it's not the issue here. Now take a deep breath, and try to think back to a time before you sat on that icicle and actually enjoyed life from time to time - and be glad there isn't a group category for humorless, anal-retentive Boyscout weirdos. Krazy, again, I'm sorry - you won't hear any more from me on here. Blackboard 03:56, 4 August 2008 (BST)
God, we wished he'd propaganda him/her/itself into their own game to talk rubbish in..... it would be interesting to know if anyone believes him/her/it...anyway, we've got what we want, we're off. Tatty bye!--Crabappleslegalteam 00:41, 5 August 2008 (BST)

August 2008

Sysop business

When you warn a user you absolutely must update the individuals Vandal Data. You are not doing it, and this just crews up the system. You are damn lucky i caught it in this instance. Next time, im taking you to misconduct for negligence because it completely screws the escalation system. --The Grimch U! E! 04:08, 1 August 2008 (BST)

If you plan on doing that you can take everyone else who doesn't do it to Misconduct as well. Last night was the first time in a while I haven't done it. Why? Because I was tired and just going to bed therefore I would get it in the morning, which I was just about to do. -- Cheese 11:39, 1 August 2008 (BST)

I know we're not wikipedia but still, this is a good general rule to try and follow(I've been in the block list).--Karekmaps?! 23:42, 2 August 2008 (BST)

Vandal Data

I think I am eligible for another strike, thanks in advance dude --CyberRead240 12:10, 5 August 2008 (BST)

No you aren't. You don't have 250 good edits since your last warning.--– Nubis NWO 13:22, 5 August 2008 (BST)
Oh, sorry. My mistake.--CyberRead240 12:51, 8 August 2008 (BST)

Ackland Mall Page

Could you please unlock the Ackland Mall page? We had a large attack today that involved the RRF and we would like to record it. Thanks, --Karec 20:55, 12 August 2008 (BST)

Don't leave!

I think the vandal whose accounts you just banned is still lurking around! Can you IP ban him?--SirArgo Talk 22:59, 18 August 2008 (BST)

He's probably got a mountain of proxies to piss about with. I'm watching Futurama at the moment but I'll keep an eye on the screen and take action if needbe. -- Cheese 23:00, 18 August 2008 (BST)
Sounds good. I spent and hour and a half fighting his edits and reporting him. I'm gonna log off for a while.--SirArgo Talk 23:02, 18 August 2008 (BST)
I hope I'm wasting your Futurama show ;)--Gman —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bibby the hobbit (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.
You are. :( Let me watch it in peace dammit. *shakes fist* -- Cheese 23:26, 18 August 2008 (BST)
Aight, you've got half an hour, the time I get all of 4chan on your asses.--Gman —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bibby the hobbit (talkcontribs) 22:28, August 18, 2008.

On a recent suggestion...

You voted with this. I might say...Remove the # from the beginning of the page. You're killing the number of votes. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:37, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Better? :P -- Cheese 22:45, 27 August 2008 (BST)
Me want cookie for minor stuff. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:45, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Vandal Stuff

Hey, forgot to ask this back in... um... July. Could you take off my vandal warning data thing? Thanks. Way in the past by now. --Tselita 22:23, 15 September 2008 (BST)

Um...Just be patient. Don't push the sysops to do stuff like remove a vandal warning. But I should also say this...To have your vandal warning struck, you need to meet some special conditions...I think it was 200 contributive posts to this wiki since the warning. I think... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:35, 15 September 2008 (BST)
I had made the requirements back in June/July before I took my unannounced break from the wiki Axe. And I'm not pushing - I'm just letting them know since the A/VB page states that I should ask them to remove it when the qualifications are met. Lets face it - after I had gotten the vandal warning and before i took my break I was posting a ton. The only thing that hadn't been met yet was the time limit, which has now definitely been met. ;) Nice to talk to you again btw Axe. Missed ya. Work's still busy though. Not playing UD again until it lets up a bit --Tselita 17:32, 16 September 2008 (BST)
hehe I'm pretty sure that the templates alone are a good quarter or more of the 200 posts, plus the template request posts back and forth to people, the suggestion voting, and the suggestions and discussion on suggestions. And the talk on the Deletions page during that whole Template business. --Tselita 17:35, 16 September 2008 (BST)

September 2008

Master Template PoN

From my talk page:
Here's what I've come up with: Template:PlayOnName. All you need to do is replace the bits in bold with the bits you've got. -- Cheese 21:48, 10 July 2008 (BST)

Is it okay if, since you designed that for me to help in giving out Play On Name templates to the adoring and not-so-adoring masses, I edit it a bit to look more like the rest of the template's formats? (I like the whole red on black look - don't want to get accused of plagerizing again or anything like that) And is there an easy way to alter the size of each PoN template in the master template you made? I tend to vary the sizes of the templates in relation to the shape of the picture. Thanks --Tselita 17:40, 17 September 2008 (BST)

Cheeseman, just need to know if I can edit the Play On Names master template a bit (color, mainly, I like red on black) so I can start using it a bit? Thanks --Tselita 14:23, 19 September 2008 (BST)

Yeah sure. :) Sorry I took so long to get back to you. I've been working waaaaaaaaaaay too much recently. -- Cheese 23:00, 19 September 2008 (BST)
Not a problem - my job's been keeping me from quickly responding to anyone as well --Tselita 00:55, 20 September 2008 (BST)
Bit of confusion - trying to figure out how to change aspects of the master template (the lettering color on the title from white to red). Help? --Tselita 14:27, 20 September 2008 (BST)

PS - of which do you consider yourself to be on the side? Jesus hates zombies? Or Jesus IS a zombie? It's for an informal poll I'm taking. --Tselita 14:28, 20 September 2008 (BST)

Sorted. :) You can now manually set the colours using the variables: headercolor (the colour of the header text) and maincolor (the colour of the main text). On the Jesus question. He is in a state where is he is both and at the same time, neither. Like a dual naturist. But more complicated and holy. And he has a nice beard. -- Cheese 18:16, 20 September 2008 (BST)
That's an awesome answer about the poll question. And thanks for the master template. That works great :)
Jesushateszombies.jpg What Would Jesus Do? Headshot zombies with His Holy katana!
This user believes that
if Jesus were around,
he'd be a die-hard survivor because
Revelations:Some number.
Jesusisazombie.jpg What Would Jesus Do?
Eat your bra!nz after clubbing you with the cross.
This user believes that
if Jesus were around,
he'd be a die-hard zombie because JESUS IS A ZOMBIE!
No transubstantiation needed.
Here you go. --Tselita 19:28, 20 September 2008 (BST)

You can haz templatez

Cheezburger.jpg lolcat
This user can haz cheezburger.

Because sometimes, giving a cookie is just not enough --Tselita 15:40, 19 September 2008 (BST)

You can haz moar templatez

Cheezburger2.jpg lolcat plus
This user can haz even bigger cheezburger.

Thank you for all the help with the Play on Names! Normal cheezburgers do not suffice. --Tselita 19:30, 20 September 2008 (BST)

UZM Zombie Portal

Hi Krazy, I created that as I intend to replace the current UZM page with it as soon as it can be redirected, not to circumvent anything. It takes the 'united' term out of the mix which is what is having fits about. I take you'd prefer if I waited? In that case feel free to just delete it back to a blank page and I'll wait. --Zeug 19:48, 22 September 2008 (BST)

Just wait till this mess has been sorted before doing anything like that. -- Cheese 19:53, 22 September 2008 (BST)
Just one query ... now I certainly don't mind being in both deletions and arbitration at the same time as I find wiki processes in general rather fascinating but isn't jorm's gambit duplicating UDWiki:Administration/Deletions#United_Zombies_of_Malton?


Cheating scum bag wrote: "Iscariot is totally inappropriate to arbitrate here, he's very much involved and is obviously being disingenuous."

Can we have it noted in the arbitration that as I am not Jorm, Zeug, a member of MOB or Extinction that I'm in no way involved or will be bound by any verdict? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 12:06, 23 September 2008 (BST)

Oh dear god, someone else called out Saint Iscariot for being the lying douchebag that we all know he is... Say it isn't so!!!--Happykook 08:03, 4 October 2008 (BST)


I seem to have broken talk:suggestions formatting. I have no idea how and am scared to try fix it in case i make things worse! If you are first on line could you take a look? Thanks...--Honestmistake 14:47, 25 September 2008 (BST)

Re: Grim's vote on the Radio Survivor nomination

I'm not sure if you struck it... but I'm not sure the stike was justified... IMNSHO, the vote is legit... Even if the other stuff that went along with it was not. --WanYao 20:05, 28 September 2008 (BST)

That any better? -- Cheese 20:10, 28 September 2008 (BST)

October 2008

Thanks for showing your still biased after all this time

Wow, i come back for a few days and i erase a false statement in the Giddings talk page, where fuckhead took credit for something the sysops did, not him, and you once again defend him... It's so awsome to see that nothing changes, you guys claim you hate this antics, and you say you want to stop him, but you still defend and protect him. Its nice to see the wiki bias is still in full swing...--Happykook 08:01, 4 October 2008 (BST)

Fuck off. I am a sysop. My job is to be impartial. I do not like Iscariot, but that does not mean I should ignore things involving him does it? If someone wipes his user page do I leave it or do I revert and warn whoever did it? Don't come onto my page and moan about me being biased, that is not on. Especially since you fucked off the wiki in the middle of an arby case that might actually have taken him down a peg. Instead of moaning at me, do something (legal) about it. -- Cheese 13:46, 4 October 2008 (BST)

ALiM's Birthday Party

You've been cordially invited to attend ALiM's birthday party at Club Head at 10am GMT on the 18th of October. Festivities will last for a full 24 hours. See here for more details.--Nallan (Talk) 02:17, 7 October 2008 (BST)


To make this as fair and equitable as possible, please vote on the decision being rendered here. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 05:57, 7 October 2008 (BST)

I hope you know what you are doing with that vote. --– Nubis NWO 02:08, 8 October 2008 (BST)

The Arby case you were the Arbitrator on

That case is still under the cases in progress header on A/A with it "Waiting for terms of the ruling to be accepted and carried out. " Didn't it get carried out already? If so, does that mean it can be put in the archives now?--SirArgo Talk 21:11, 15 October 2008 (BST)

Link plz? =S -- Cheese 21:33, 15 October 2008 (BST)
This one. On the A/A page it's still listed on ongoing but I thought it was done.--SirArgo Talk 23:09, 15 October 2008 (BST)
Yeah its done. :) I'll get round to that shortly. -- Cheese 23:10, 15 October 2008 (BST)

I wish to make a final point

No. I was to make one (small) final point. So please, I'll type it now--Thadeous Oakley 21:37, 15 October 2008 (BST)

Will do. Though it seem "UBCS" will have to stay disambogation.--Thadeous Oakley 22:45, 15 October 2008 (BST)

thanks dude

thanks for deletin them--Tomer 21:53, 20 October 2008 (BST)


been a while sence ive been playing dude and im pretty expirenced now lol got more xp then you so watch it--Tomer 4:00 PM, 19 october 2008 (CTZ)

been playing a year and a half so please quit telling me im a noob and everything--Tomer 4:13 PM, 19 october 2008 (CTZ)


Congrats, baring a miracle of meatpuppeting, in 20 minutes you will be the proud ruler of this wiki! I mean there's the whole kevan thing, but your predecessors have shown nothing but disdain for his role and i'm sure you'll continue the tradition in style! I remember the day you became sysop *blinks back tears* they grow up so fast....--xoxo 10:11, 23 October 2008 (BST)

Congrats, Oh magnificant and benevolant overlord. May your reign as consul 'crat of the republic empire wiki be long and fruitful. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 19:20, 23 October 2008 (BST)

Yep. No meatpuppeting at all. Well done. Now remember when you attempt a coup, get Kevan on side first. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:46, 23 October 2008 (BST)

Got it. ;) -- Cheese 10:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


As you are the most reasonable of the sysops I have encountered, I just want to know what edits I am getting my ban for (the ones on the A/VB that were telling bob the convo was over, or my involvement in the A/SD shitstorm.) Heres hoping this makes it through to you before some troll strolls in and tries to be witty. Ty in advance. Also, congrats on 'crat, your the right one for the job.--CyberRead240 02:26, 25 October 2008 (BST)

Sexylegsread said:
Also, congrats on 'crat, your the right one for the job.
And you try to paint me as a brown-nose? --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 02:27, 25 October 2008 (BST)
I voted for him, and many, many times talked about my wish for him to get 'crat IRL to many of my Wiki going friends. He is the right person for the job, and I had been planning to tell him so and give him my congratulations just as I sat down to my computer last night. Well, there was a wiki shit storm, and I have not since had the chance to say so, so I thought I would add it in to this message. Sorry for that Cheese.--CyberRead240 02:32, 25 October 2008 (BST)
I don't know. =/ It's all so confusing. All the multiple cases and counter cases make my brain sore. =( Thanks for voting by the way. =)-- Cheese 22:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Proof of bias

You bitch at me, and in the same breath again condem him for being the douchebag that you know he is, you condemn me for not standing up to him, when he had all you sysops backin him, and you call me a fuckhead for not fighting hard enough against him??? I backed out because YOU all had his back, he fucked with me in game, and in wiki, he accused my friends of being zerg accounts of mine, you even told him to back off because you knew he was full of it, but you DID NOTHING!!! Now you want to blame me saying that you can't man up and deal with his shit because i walked away??? What kind of a cop out is that??? You all fucked me from all ends, and then call me the bitch because I didn't give you the reason you needed to put a stop to his shit? The worst is that you lash out at me, then delete it and hope it fades away in your history...

Again i say its nice to see sysops are spineless cowards how allow assholes to bully the wiki when they are unwilling to do shit about it, but rant on those few who are victims... Thanks for doing your job, i hope Kevan is proud of you.--Happykook 05:54, 25 October 2008 (BST)

I don't usually comment on stuff that doesn't involve me, but Wow. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 06:16, 25 October 2008 (BST)
DanceDanceRevolution said:
I don't usually comment on stuff that doesn't involve me
Nobody likes a liar. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 06:41, 25 October 2008 (BST)
Cyberbob240 said:
It's not my myspace
Cyberbob240 said:
I'm not cancer
I don't see a lie there. My starsign is not Cancer (I'm going to be nice and assume that's what you're getting at) and it isn't my MySpace. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 11:34, 25 October 2008 (BST)

Check the archive before you start accusing me of deleting stuff. If you keep coming to my page to moan about something that didn't happen, then I'll just ignore it. Simple as. -- Cheese 22:22, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


What're thinking? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure. =/ I vouched for him initially but now I'm having second thoughts. He hasn't been on for about 2 weeks now and doesn't really seem that bothered about it. Plus there was this gem. =p You? -- Cheese 21:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Looking at his last bid, he received a lot of vouches, but I'm noticing some of those vouchers that time around are now voting against. And on top of that, people who vouched initially seem to be changing their mind and there isn't very many strong yes' going for him (although he has been a long time sysop, so that counts). His policies were sloppy, but well intended I think. I agree though, his inactivity is a worry. Either he doesn't care enough to check, (or thinks because he was a sysop once before, he wouldn't have to bother) or there is some conflict IRL preventing him from wikiing. Either way, it doesn't look too good. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. I noticed that. It's mostly the folk who are changing their minds that are making me lean towards saying no. There's 18 (not counting mine) outright vouches, 10 outright against, 2 abstain and 4 that have changed from vouch to against. He also hasn't done much (besides the policies) since he came back. =/ -- Cheese 22:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
He does have a point about it, though. It wouldn't hurt to have the sysop team review the permabanned users and apply the current vandal banning rules to them and give them the due process of a sysop team vote. They are permabanned, so it is not like they are going anywhere, so the sysop team can take a little bit of time (say a month) to go over the cases and make a ruling. Most will be upheld (the one-shots and impersonators), but some might be able to get a second chance. I don't think that is too much to ask for, do you? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 22:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I know the last thing you guys want is regular users to spam this discussion you are having, but Hagnat has been inactive because he is finishing his written thesis. He's IRCing now if you want to jump in! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 22:35, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Tell him his thesis is unimportant and that he should probably poke his nose in and say hello. ;) --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:37, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah but his response to needing to be more active on this wiki was "meh". -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 22:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Should I point out the current list of sysops who are basically saying "meh" or have gone on multiple breaks for over two weeks? Basically, it boils down to this: Does Hagnat know what he is doing and does he improve the wiki as a sysop when he is here? If so, then if he fits into the current guidelines for sysop activity? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 22:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Oi! You lot bugger off. This is a private top secret chat between me and my Gnomey friend over super secret 'crat matters. You're not supposed to see!! =p -- Cheese 22:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Fine, fine. I'm done. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 22:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your input. =p It has been noted. -- Cheese 22:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Just a thought, but maybe you guys should have your sooper seekrit discussions through e-mail? :) --ZsL 00:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Noes! Transparency in decision making FTW!--xoxo 00:27, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
No, we have mind reading capabilities, but thanks. All of this ^ is a rouse. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:35, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
So are all of these. ;D --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 00:40, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Wait, what? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:47, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Iza pun. Those are all rouses ;D --xoxo 00:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Hence my smartassery comment. :D --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 00:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Har. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
That's me, the pun pirate. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 01:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
I figured you meant it was a ruse. I suppose I could have used my pic of someone sleeping as someone about to be roused, but I preferred to pretend the "u" was silent. Hence a rose. :) --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 00:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi. RL > UD. Right ? All 3 lousy policies had a reason, which was to inspire others to discuss them... sadly, i wasnt able to tie the knots that formed, but I will return to normal editing as soon as i finish this thing i have open in the other window. BRB --People's Commissar Hagnat talk 03:06, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd say wait until mister I've-got-my-priorities-mixed-up ^ gives some sort of a response. We all UD is more important than life... weekend maybe?--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Yay from me. You? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
That's two Yays, he's through to the next round. We could use the sysops and he knows what he's doing. =p Plus I'll get to play with buttons. One Hagnat sized sysop, coming right up. -- Cheese 22:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


high five on the first ALiB entry :D --xoxo 00:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Hard Warning

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Please remember to always use Stop hand.png when issuing warnings or you will face frivolous misconduct cases.--xoxo 00:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

November 08

Permabanned Users

So it seems that members of the team are open to reviewing previous vandal banning cases in order to bring them up to date with this policy. Does this work for you, or do you have any comments that you would like to make? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 20:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Two Things

Its regarding that arbitration case, need ya before it gets nasty. First, this: Look at the history. Now, in some suburbs where Umbrella is active, one or two of our subgroups is active too so we place them under our name in the active group list as seen in Ridleybank (or Shearbank among others). We have been doing that for a long time now, long before any arb case. Since haliman uses the same acronym, UBCS, and even the same emblem he seems to want to separate that. I disagree. We are not going to adapt our subgroup list just because he is such a copying *******. If he wants to list his group so badly in Ridleybank then he will just have to place above or below ours. And then there will be two UBCS's listed in Ridleybank but he stays away from ours.

Second, at his group page it still says (under "Announcements") * Haliman has taken Airheadoh up on his offer and has taken over the UBCS. This is not hostile, as Haliman had the consent of Airheadoh. Sept. 27 The arb case proved that this is not true so I dont see any reason why it needs to stay.

I hope you want to help with this, I thank you for you time in advance.--Thadeous Oakley 09:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

If he wants to add his group to that page, he should do so without interfering with yours (or at the very least get his own emblem). On the second point, it's up to him what he puts on his page, but I will talk to him later on about it and ask that he changes that particular statement. -- Cheese 17:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Cheese is vile???

I had no idea you felt that way... ;) --xoxo 13:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


This guy has one of those annoying fake orange message bars on the top of his page. When someone clicks on it, they're logged out of the wiki, and this can be quite annoying when you're working on something in a different tab. Would I be justified in making a vandal report, since he doesn't seem to have been around since January? Is there a policy on malicious links anywhere? Thanks, --Pestolence(talk) 18:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

There is a malicious links policy but, this isn't normally considered covered under it.--Karekmaps?! 19:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I see. I've had a look at the policy pages and the only one that seems to prohibit malicious links is the one against malicious links in sigs. Could you direct me to the malicious links policy? or were you referring to the malicious signature policy? --Pestolence(talk) 19:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Wasn't Finis or somebody warned way back when cause he had one of those? Or am I not thinking right...--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 20:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
That would be it I think, anything else is considered vandalism under bad faith. However we generally only consider malicious sites or links that crash the wiki vandalism. I know this specific thing has come up a few times in Vandal Banning and has always been ruled not vandalism, although it's annoying it's not really harmful.--Karekmaps?! 20:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Not vandalism? Er, I know for a fact that Special:Userlogout links in those orange bars have always been considered vandalism. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 23:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
You sure that wasn't just in signatures, 'cause I know it's definitely against the rules to link there but I can't remember us ever ruling it vandalism in the orange bars, I'm pretty sure there are actually still some pages with them.--Karekmaps?! 23:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion:20081027 Hello! Can you hear me?

You seemed positive about this on Developing Suggestions and its going to fail Peer reviewed as it stands by 1 vote. Any chance of you mucking in? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


Hey, Cheese, I know there isn't a policy and radda radda, but when I go through the unused images I usually don't delete the "alternate" images for malls just in case they are actually used when the mall is taken. I also leave images that are just a month old alone just in case. There are always plenty after the deadline anyway that need to go. It's always so tempting to make an image ark when I go through them! --– Nubis NWO 03:44, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Dw he only deleted the pngs, theres jpgs of them all and Mall Images will save us all! --xoxo 03:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Much ta. =p I shall bear that in mind. -- Cheese 18:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
All PNGs of mall images are duplicates, the used versions should be in jpg format and are already image arked somewhere, I think in a subpage of Hagnat's.--Karekmaps?! 23:29, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Well we have a community page of it now, and it's happened before (with the jpg version) so yeah.--xoxo 00:06, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Erm, JPEG should really only be used for photos. Unless the JPEGs are the most original files available and nobody has access to source materials used to create them, PNG should be the technically superior choice. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 07:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
PNG for the win! I hate jpg! >=[ and PNG's can have transparency, oooooooooh DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
We have jpgs for all of them, if you wanna scrounge around for the pngs that might exist and add them to Mall Images feel free.--xoxo 14:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


Few questions, actually only one, what are those little red exclamation marks in RC?--xoxo 00:01, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Patrolled Edits--Karekmaps?! 00:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone actually use it?--xoxo 03:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Not really, there's not much that would fit the category of things that should be marked as such unless we wanted to start patrolling for vandals by marking non-vandal edits.--Karekmaps?! 18:03, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Badges

Hey, Cheese... I was wondering if I could update some of the ops on the special ops page with links to the badges... just wanted to check with you first to see if it's cool... Lorddragonfang 05:54, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Soldier UDW

  • 11/22/08: I have scraped the Z.E.M.A. Profile one for deletion because the name is too big to fit onto Graffiti in Urban Dead. I have made the ZEMA Profile one because the name is more smaller. Your supposed to delete the other one, not this one! -- 01:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

P.S. The plan was to create an article for Advertizement and User Profile uses so I created the ZEMA Profile one. The other one you have merged was auctully scrapped for deletion. And once I made the ZEMA Profile page, it then gets moved to Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Profile and I could still use the origonal name for it to all work. That was the plan! And you deleted the Z.E.M.A. Profile one but you duplicated it to make the Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Profile and sent the ZEMA Profile one for deletion which is the opposite. If this dosen't make sence then just delete both the Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Profile and the ZEMA Profile and then I will go back to Square One.

Drama and Propaganda

Hello. I've recently noticed that a certain user ( continues to write lies and negative propaganda against my group, and we do not like that. So, is there anything you can do against it? --ScouterTX 14:31, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

December 08

I do not Understand

You left something on my talk page and I am not sure what it is or meanVenger 21:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Firetwigs my roomates character man. Venger 21:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
How strange. After successfully completing numerous headers on User:Venger/The Six Weapons of Power successfully, you make a mistake on this page. And not signing. thats a good touch. Thank goodness you know how to modify templates, upload images and sort out table code. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I know. And isn't this a coincidence? -- Cheese 21:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
And the fact that they are all vandals on there own merit doesn't help ether (not to mention all the anti-Saramu templates.) Linkthewindow  Talk  21:36, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Aaaaaaaaaaand back it goes. =p -- Cheese 21:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I was in a hurry to post. No need to go down my throat man. Venger 21:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed that. Also noted the similar flaws on pages,
leaving a space at the beginning of lines. It happens a couple of times on Firetwigs page. 
That and the fact the edit histories of the socks fill in the gaps of each other? Still. Might be coincidence. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't follow. 'Leaving a space at the beginning of lines?" Venger 21:43, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I think he is talking about suttle little habits in your editing that you share with Firetwig. Linkthewindow  Talk  21:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


Please see the vandal banning page (latest add). Karek provided help but I'd like your response as the arbitrator, if possible.--Thadeous Oakley 00:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


Hi there. I was wondering, do the users listed on User:Light_Master really exist? Or I should place those pages in the Speedy Deletion Queue? --Janus talk 23:11, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

You can check yourself. Click their link then check if User contributions is a button on the left and has any edits in it. If it does, it's real. If not, it's fake.--xoxo 23:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Already checked. They do exist. He's created accounts for them all so that means even more to keep an eye on. We can't ban them without him committing vandalism since I'm pretty sure we don't have any rules against alt accounts. -- Cheese 23:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
On that, it really shouldn't matter considering he hasn't made an edit since October. =) -- Cheese 23:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I see. I checked the User Contribution page as J3D said, but only his main account and other three (User:Super_Fast, User:Vince_Light, User:Ryan_Striker) "made edits". --Janus talk 23:33, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. Like I said, he hasn't made any edits for about 2 months and I've made a list on my sandpit to keep track of them all just in case. So hopefully nothing to worry about. =) Thanks for pointing it out though. -- Cheese 23:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks! :) --Janus talk 23:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Cheezels is there a way to check if a user exists other than the edit check? If not, shouldn't the one's that haven't edited be deleted?--xoxo 00:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

User contributions is the fastest way, there's Special:Listusers, the user toolbox should also always have Email, Block, and User Contributions links. If they aren't there it's not a real user.--Karekmaps?! 01:29, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Does that list only show users who have made at least one edit?--xoxo 11:31, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
No, Listusers shows all accounts.--Karekmaps?! 19:29, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Ah k.--xoxo 00:44, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


You asked about it on A/SD, so I'm his new account. Just wanted to let you know so you don't think I'm a meatpuppet or anything. --Pestolence(talk) 01:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

This Soldier Guy

Who is this Soldier guy anyway? I've got someone telling me I'm Soldier, I'm not Soldier by the way. I've copied his organizing method and a few of his ways for my use, its no big deal. Really, who's Soldier since I keep asking people the same question over and over lately?

--Sergeant William Holt 02:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

He lives in your mirror, Sarge. --Pestolence(talk) 02:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism (2)

Hi I would like to bring your attention on the SOS thread
my post was considered as vandalism,
as I when I saw the CZLG (Carreer Zombies Lobby Group(s)) completly flood the SOS page
I saw them overload with trolling
I saw they could keep put their post even above Table Of Contents during so long without anyone saying anything about it...
then I didnt erase anything
and only moved the pair of mock comments that were above the TOC at the bottom of the page
with their other similar comments that they spammed several times
then I put a comment that all that was the same
and it was cancelled... ok fine its vandalism so be it...
but look: I added a note with explanations about why their arguments were wrong
and insights about the situation with a link to my opininon
to not overload the page like the CZLG enjoyed to do with same arguments repeated over and over
and that comment was allowed to stay
But even that was removed afterwards by the CZLG !
They have several wiki members that are very active
and they felt like they could completely wipe out anything that doesnt please them
and remove any traces of other's right of expression !
Here is what I am talking about :
and they keep putting their mock comments again above Table Of Contents:
rather than dealing with my opinion which I thought was demonstrating the flaws of their reasoning. Instead of debating, they just removed it completely with "00:22, 20 December 2008 The Hierophant (Talk | contribs) (Undo revision 1341004 by Special:Contributions/Sarkomance (User talk:Sarkomance) Vandalism mised in with retarded opinions.)" <- this user considers I dont even have the right to express myself, because he qualifies my opinions as "retarded" just because I dont think like him, is that a sign of his intelligence? Its the abuse I was denouncing ! They can blatantly flood with insulting comments or wipe out completely the others opinions and they silence the wiki minority groups or users. Is it fair in anyway?--Sarkomance 00:47, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

The reason you got reported for vandalism is because you moved the comments and attempted to place them under a new heading labelled retarded trolling or something to that effect. However you didn't format it correctly and made it seem as though Boxy had said that. That is seen as impersonation --> vandalism. However, you haven't been officially warned so don't worry too much about it. Just take care when moving stuff in future. That's all. -- Cheese 01:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


You never come on IRC ever you Scottish drunk (for the purpose of this conversation I have decided all Scottish people are drunks). Also Merry Christmas. --Kooks 23:40, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Too much work today

Sorry about that :) Thanks for moving/deleting those pages. I was wondering about Category:Blane Tracker. Should this and its subpages be moved to Blane's subspace? The template makes me confused..

Oh, feel free to send me to hell if I'm bothering you too much :) --Janus talk 21:20, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

It's cool =p I'll figure this out. -- Cheese 21:30, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Could I erase the content of this page (since it's a dupe) and turn it into a redirect? --Janus talk 15:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Yup. =) Go ahead. -- Cheese 15:44, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! --Janus talk 15:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Speedy delete

Cheers! Also, that's what Malton needs, Dinosaurs? Also, for the cutting board, The Six Weapons of Power. 03:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Ur doing it wrong

I mispelt the RRF's name, so all those page's you just moved are now in the wrong namespace. Sorry, I shouldn't be up this late :(. Anyway, the corrected links are now at A/MR. Sorry! Linkthewindow  Talk  13:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem. =p I'm doing this half asleep myself. And its half 1 in the afternoon here. -- Cheese 13:31, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Lol :). Thanks! It's half past the other twelve here :P. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Blast. I did a mistake too :( Journal_of_Federationtrooper should have been moved to Journal:Federationtrooper, not to Journal:Coolpikaaa/Federationtrooper. However, that user already created a new page under the right name, so I'm placing both on A/SD. Sorry again :| --Janus talk 13:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Please sign the move thing, I was gonna move it myself but I didn't make a comment on it. Probably also best to keep the commentary down to a non-existant minimum when doing something like that.--Karekmaps?! 14:16, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Done. =) -- Cheese 14:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

You changed several links without notice on my group's wiki

Short version, you moved our PKer list and rules page without notification and screwed up several links in the process. Please let me know in the future when you do something like that or at the least update everything relevant instead of leaving me with the dirty surprise of multiple dead links.--Garviel LokenMaltesecross2.jpgNo Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! Talk17:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. I thought I'd got them all. =/ Must have missed a couple. -- Cheese 17:28, 30 December 2008 (UTC)