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[edit] Re: Wondering...

You are TDB, correct? We are aware of your interest; I believe DT will shortly be in contact with you. I apologize for the delay. --VI ♘ 23:48, 5 April 2008 (BST)

I had been talking with him one the PKA board, but he suddenly stopped replying. Just checking to make sure things were still going smoothly. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 23:50, 5 April 2008 (BST)
Well friend, perhaps DT does not have the time to be on the internet twenty-four hours a day. --VI ♘ 16:11, 6 April 2008 (BST)
Forgive me, it had been eight days since our last correspondence, and members of RR were becoming anxious. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 18:49, 6 April 2008 (BST)

[edit] Character Database

I know that I've found a database of UD profiles, but I can't remember the URL. I recall that it allowed you to search for specific usernames. Perchance do you know of this? --Pedentic 02:58, 5 April 2008 (BST)

But of course. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 03:17, 5 April 2008 (BST)

[edit] I hear you quit

I'm of the understanding that The Surgeon General has left the DHPD because of, lets call it drama, at the highest level. If this was the case and you still hold a place for Dunell Hills in your heart I suggest you come over here and talk about it. You already have an account, so go ahead and send me a PM if you are interested --Bill Turner 04:16, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Or you could just come back... I already miss you. We are trying to implement changes... :( Cisisero 06:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I've made other commitments. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 06:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for changing the comments on my case file page. I haven't seen this much vandalism since the BB2 started.--MikhailA 01:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Glad to help. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 02:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your sig scares a newborn baby and his grandma

It's true--Rrnman 01:25, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I know, just too much love for ya. It's ok, just slow down a bit, and accept it. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 01:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Suggestions

I've idea that I'd like to suggest, but I am completely overwhelmed by the Suggestions pages. Is there a safe starting place? Thanks. --Pedentic 04:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Go here and get some input before you post it. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 04:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanky much! --Pedentic 23:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shamblin' Crooners

I was doing a bit of clean-up when I noticed that there isn't much heard from these days in Dulston from the Shamblin' Crooners. I was hoping that you might be able to confirm the group's status. If the Crooners are gone I would like to take steps to have them listed as a "Historical Group" for their past accomplishments within Dulston. Let me know. --Mobius187 18:46, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

The Crooners are, indeed, still z!ng!ng and zanzan. However, the... nature of Dulston proves to be quite the hindrance to many efforts, if you understand. In summary, they have not been disbanded. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 19:20, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Good to know, but might I inquire as to where they are at this time? I would be more than happy to render assistance by moving the group icon to any suburb where you guys are now performing these days. Then, when the Crooners do retire, be sure to bring up the "Historical Groups" discussion for Dulston (their home town). --Mobius187 20:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Still in Dulston, it's just difficult to make any headway in this area. Plus, we're not exactly a "lulz we destroyed teh harmanz" type of group and otherwise not very vocal (ironically enough). When and if such a time arises, I'll personally submit the group for Historical status. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 21:09, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
My advice is to retire when at the height of your fame, rather than letting the Crooners decline. Maybe one last tour? Dulston is very quiet right now with Infected Swarm and Hel's Daughters away... your efforts would certainly be noticed and not mistakenly attributed to them. I hate it when that happens. Anywho, just an idea (and I'm pro-survivor too... so it just goes to show I care about Dulston's history ;) ). Be sure to let me know when you sign the Crooners up for Historical status so I can chip in my vote. --Mobius187 19:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Enjoy

A FREE COOKIE
Cisisero has given the Surgeon General a cookie for the Dancing Banana. ;)

Cisisero 10:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Good sir, I am completely oblivious to the reason for this inane template. Off the wagon, eh? Shameful... --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 13:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Now I dont even know if you are joking or not. :P Cisisero 15:49, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Ridiculous! Everyone knows kumquats don't pay income taxes! --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 21:21, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zerging

Is there a way to report zerging? I'm in Stickling Mall in Shearbank, and I'm finding a ton of characters there with incredibly similar names (see fig. 1). Thanks in advance. --Pedentic 04:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Fig. 1

Mighty Thor 1 Mighty Thor 5
Mighty Thor 2 Mighty Thor 6
mighty thor 3 Mighty Thor 7
Mighty Thor 4 Placeholder
But of course. There is a highly reputable and long standing Zerg list at Resensitized. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 04:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template help needed

I was attempting to use someone's template, Template:Goodmath, but it doesn't seem to have a line break on the end like all the other templates I'm using. I tried fixing it, but I can't seem to see what is wrong. See this section of my profile for the Goodmath template in use. No matter where I put it on the list, it messes up the next few. --Schloss Ritter 07:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

All right, it should be fixed. If there are any problems, let me know. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 01:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Azzface

Yes, yes it is. He was recently re-accepted into USAI after being thrown out for being a disrespectful little shit. He's been humbled quite a bit since then.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  14:58, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Well this seems a bit odd... --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 17:44, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quick question

Alright. I think that this is just an issue with my browser, but do you see any text below "Apply Here" on this page? Thanks in advance. --Pedentic 22:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

It is fixed. Also, your applicant will have to resupply his profile link. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 23:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! --Pedentic 15:36, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV

You can try moving stuff from the main page to a new section on the talk page like I did here. I found that if it's somewhat official, it can help with POV drama crap and stop people whining and tossing out vandal reports when their stuff gets deleted. -- AHLGTH 21:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. I guess if you haven't been reported for it... Sometimes... Ach, nevermind. Thanks. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 21:56, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


You meanie. Of course when you put "Do not click this" I click it.-- AHLGTH 04:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah, reverse psychology. Besides, I put it in my sandbox so people wouldn't see it. Bah. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 06:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


Ooo. 2 edits. Sometimes I hate the banning system, that guy is clearly bad news. Think if I warned him he would edit once more? :D-- AHLGTH 04:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd certainly hope so. I feel nothing contributive will be found in said edits... --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 04:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PK

To avoid wiki drama, I would like to discuss with you the following passage in

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/PKer

Pkers are often called the "third" side in Malton, the other two being zombies and survivors. Although pking is frowned upon by survivors, this "frowning upon" of pkers is a role playing feeling, and not a genuine dislike for pkers. Pkers are welcomed in the Urban Dead community as they bring an interesting extra challenge to the game, the games creata Kevan stated that, "psycho survivors are a vibrant part of any post-apocalypse".

This was modified by User:Thekooks, and I am merely reverting to the previous statement over-written by User:Thekooks. His statement was not factual and is a clearly a personal opinion. I truly doubt that PKers are welcomed by the vast majority of players, or that the dislike of PKers is role play. I would also like to see a non-wiki source of both the "third side" and Kevan's statement. In most MMORPGs, PKers are considered griefers, and Urban Dead is no different, especially when considering the offline nature of the game.

--Chanb 11:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps they are disliked by the entirely of Malton, this is true. On your non-wiki source, I'm afraid Kevan rarely makes statements outside of the wiki, and those that he has, to my knowledge, have been limited in scope. On short notice, the best I could find was a statement made by Kevan on this wiki here. And while it may be true that PKing are possibly considered griefers in some other MMOs, I would say that UrbanDead is most definitely different. Kevan likes it, he considers it a valid part of the game, and it's not going anywhere unless he changes his mind. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 20:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


I consider the statements to all be unfactual, with no place on the wiki, except on a page titled "Thekooks'POVs"
"Pkers are often called the "third" side in Malton" - By who? Source? "Often"? As often as survivors and zombies are called sides by anyone who introduces the game? A more accurate statement would be "A small number of people consider PKers the "third" side in Malton".
"Although pking is frowned upon by survivors, this "frowning upon" of pkers is a role playing feeling, and not a genuine dislike for pkers." - Obviously false. Is there any reason why someone who is a dedicated survivor would liked to be PKed?
"Pkers are welcomed in the Urban Dead community as they bring an interesting extra challenge to the game" - Not true. Same reasons as above. They're not welcomed at all.
PKing is viewed in a very negative light by the vast majority of Urban Dead; most groups disapprove of it and the only ones who don't are PKer groups, who are in the minority. User:Thekooks's statements paint PKing in a flattering light. --Chanb 23:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Ah, but then you must run with the wrong crowd. Most of the people I have interactions with either already like PKers or the people who play them, or come around after a short while. I (used to) play a number of pro-survivors, and yeah, I didn't like being killed, but I could joke with the players out of character with ease, and we generally had a respect for each other. The same was the case when I was playing the role of the PKer. And yes, we are the third side of the game (whether or not survivors or zombies run around saying "I'm on the survivor/zombie side of the game!"). We are welcomed in many areas of the community, mostly just not in less-than-mainstream areas with survivors too focused on roleplaying and their definition of the game to recognize what we do in its proper light. Torec T-CC/CS/CS/CS 00:17, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Simply put, if pking was not an important part of the game, then it wouldn't even be an option for you to be able to shoot other people. There would be no point to flak jackets, or the Dulston Alliance. Pkers give you purpose--Image:Emot-pervert.gifSister Anne Simpson thinks you need more JesusImage:Emot-pervert.gif 00:22, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Well zombies need flak jackets... -- AHLGTH 00:24, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Shhush logic!--Image:Emot-pervert.gifSister Anne Simpson thinks you need more JesusImage:Emot-pervert.gif 00:45, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Aight, let me try to straighten this up... I'll be comparing the edit made by thekooks to the one you reverted to. Now then. On asking the source of almost anything on this wiki, other than actual Malton events, is a sketchy process, and you'll hardly ever get satisfactory answers. Let me put it to you this way champ: This ain't Wikipedia. There are no citations, fact checking is done on a per basis, and frankly, there are always idiotic statements being thrown around. Getting a general consensus on anything is practically impossible, and no matter what you write, there will always be naysayers. The easiest to dispel anything is talking with the person(s) in which there seems to be a conflict of interests. Now, I've been playing for a while, although it seems not as long as you have, I've seen things, and making any statement while attempting to relate it to [b]every single survivor group in the game[/b] is only asking for trouble. Why did I revert it your revert? I felt that thekook's version was marginally better. Was it perfect? Not in the least. Why didn't I personally edit the page as I thought it should be? I didn't feel like, although now it seems I may have to intervene. But really now, the last statement you made was the clencher on just how narrow minded your views are.
Chanb said:
...most groups disapprove of it [PKing] and the only ones who don't are PKer groups...
"The only ones who don't are PKer groups." One, you didn't take into account zombie groups in that, but I'll ignore that as I assume that you implied strictly survivor groups. There are many groups that, although they may not like PKing, accept it as a part of the game. Heck, you'd be surprised just how many dogooders have a slightly more manic alter ego. All I'm saying is, try to be more open. You might actually enjoy what you find. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 00:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
This is the most impartial and unbiased opinion I have ever seen. The way you analyze the PK situation from all available angles to arrive at the one true conclusion is absolutely remarkable. You have shown me the light. Never again shall I raise my weapons against fellow survivors. I only hope this is the first step towards sharing your enlightenment. -- Laughing Man 02:01, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I admit being biased. I also admit missing out points. I'm not trying to write an article with clauses and points of interest and footnotes. I'm trying my best to be brief without igniting stupid amounts of drama. I'm also trying to be convincing. Pointing out any problems with my efforts should be your role, not mine. My problem is that I don't believe that the "this "frowning upon" of pkers is a role playing feeling". I have an alt who PKs. I talk with PKer friends. This doesn't blind me to the fact that when you get attacked for being a PKer it's not role play. When there are radio messages alerting the presence of a PKer, it's not role play. When there is a major effort to carve out in-game PKer territory, the swarms of zombies and survivors attacking us aren't role playing. When we have survivors trying to hunt and punish us it's not role play. Who tries to punish a zombie player?
If I claimed that the actions against zombie players weren't role play, I would be called an absolute moron at best. Doesn't the fact that I haven't received the same response imply, at least, I am partially right? The worst I've recieved is some sarcasm and an accusation of closed-mindedness.
PKing implies being a survivor to achieve your aims. Does the Big Bash or RRF mostly kill survivors with guns? They would hardly be a zombie group if they were survivors for a significant amount of the time. That would defeat the point. A zombie group expects its members to play as zombies and not as PKers. The members expect the group to be composed of mostly zombies and their aims achieved through zombie means. Those members that are dedicated PKers are almost invariably part of a subsection which operates more as an semi independent PKer group. Yes. I know this point is subtle. Please don't explode at me for trying to make something that is a hard point to make.
By the way, what do you think about moving this to Talk:PKer? This was only here so I could discuss with The Surgeon General. None the less, I welcome your input. --Chanb 22:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DHPD IA Page

Hi TSG - Can you please have a look at the IA page and help with formatting the logue and purple cat's entries?

Cheers mate

Sanpedro 04:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] November?

Heya - I saw that you altered the News page for the update allowing you to see who dumped your body. My only question is if this was in November or December? Cheers! --xensyriaT 02:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

December, today actually. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 03:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Wanna change it then - it looks better if you do...? :D --xensyriaT 12:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
*headdesk* I got it. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 13:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Cheers for you help thus far TSG - will let you know when there is something else I need a hand with.

A big sloppy kiss on the bottom
Sanpedro has given TSG a big sloppy kiss on the bottom for being so gosh darned helpful
Um... yeah, no problem dude... Just post on your talk page and I'll help out. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 17:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

You edited my post on the Gulsonside events page, cutting it in half. I don't remember there being any length restrictions on suburb pages, so what's up with that? In the email notification I received was this message:

Editor's summary: Well written, but far too many weasel words

Weasel words? I'm not sure what that means. I would think it was more Shatner-esque than anything else: overly dramatic but somehow poignant. I'm putting it back the way it was as I think it was a decent motivational speech to get more survivors into the fight. If there is a legitimate reason why this should be pared down, please enlighten me. --Stickman 19:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Bah, nevermind. It seems there is little room for discussion on this matter. I will acquiesce.
Not at all. If there are ever any issues with my editing, I wish for them to be discussed in an open manner. My reason for my edit to your update is thus: All suburb pages are to be of a NPOV format. Your plea for survivors to continue fighting onwards shows an obvious inclination towards one side, survivors, over the other(s), especially your use of "we," which shows that you identify with the survivors as a collective, at least in this conflict. I am always willing to discuss my edits. Also, I see that you have already spoken with WanYao, and I agree with his assessment. Your writing was very good and is something I greatly encourage, but certain guidelines must be adhered to. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 20:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] deerstalker

Clothes/Head, check at the bottom --~~~~ [talk] 15:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I guess I was just feeling lazy. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 18:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] your apology

not a problem at all. i searched for a style of list to see if there was one but...hey who would ever have thought of making a player killer list under the name player killer list! you know? well. apology accepted and maybe you could help me with how to work this place? i dont have a clue on what to do here it seems like a forum but with a different spin on it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kirk15 (talk • contribs) 00:23, October 20, 2007.

I would be more than happy to assist you in any way possible. To your talk page? --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 06:28, 21 October 2007 (BST)

[edit] Ahrimmagicks

I really don't appreciate what he's done with his user page now. I waited about 2 hours for him to edit his page, but it looks like he isn't going to anytime soon. Please have a talk with him whenever you find the time to. Some of it can be considered impersonation, and I don't want to have to bring any other parties into this via A/VB or Arby's. I still feel it can be solved with talking. Drop me a line.--Sheep to spam: Always ! 23:33, 15 October 2007 (BST)

Sure, it's tasteless, but other than encouraging him to change it, nothing can be done. Also, on impersonation, I believe that only applies to a user signing as another user. This isn't vandalism because it's his page, and you would most likely win at Arby's simply because of his lackluster writing skills. Then again, if one could represent another... But lets not think about that. In other words, yes, I don't like it, but I can directly do nothing. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 00:38, 16 October 2007 (BST)
It could be considered impersonation that he is trying to claim my email account. That, and he's trying to use all of my personal information. Along with claiming my UD chracters. And just so you know, I wasn't asking you to directly do anything. Just have a small word with him about this.--Sheep to spam: Always ! 01:06, 16 October 2007 (BST)
Hmmm... I see your point. I'm trying to talk some sense into him, but beyond that, little has been accomplished. If anything we're taking steps back here. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 01:26, 16 October 2007 (BST)

[edit] Another dumb question of mine

This isn't at all wiki related but has more to do with the game itself and I was hoping you could help me. If you chose to set someone to ignore status on your contact list, will that mean they will not be able to contact you via mobile phone? Or is it more than that? Thanks!--Pibbit 16:42, 7 October 2007 (BST)

As far as I know, that means that anything they say, including radio broadcasts, is ignored by your character. In other words, to you, the words were never said. If this extends to mobile phones, I'm not sure, as I've personally never used the feature. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 17:03, 7 October 2007 (BST)

[edit] Happy Belated Birthday

Just wanted to wish you a happy belated birthday! Maybe you can pop over to my page and make sure I'm not violating any secret or blatant wiki code! --Pibbit 04:25, 19 September 2007 (BST)

I know the original heading/post was for you but I wanted to say thank you for the birthday wishes in kind. Any chance your alt will come & wish me happy birthday in person? It's not everyday you see a hot guy in a loincloth --Pibbit 18:39, 12 October 2007 (BST)
But of course. Don't forget, zippers are the tools of the round earthers. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 00:40, 13 October 2007 (BST)

[edit] Strangeness

Well since you know some things about wiki formatting, Whenever I sign the mic or bic templates under user= then my sig template I get an error where two {{1}}s appear around it. I've been wondering why that is for a while now and how can I fix it?--Karekmaps?! 11:19, 18 September 2007 (BST)

I don't have all the knowledge of The Surgeon General, but I have had this problem. For more information, check out this page. Hopefully we can find a fix, but until then, just use {{usr|YourUserName}} ~~~~~ to sign posts there. --Pedentic 15:03, 18 September 2007 (BST)
I'm afriad I've being doing the same. Unfortunatly, I've been unable to solve the issue, which most likely stems from using a template within a template. Such solutions are beyond me at this point. However, Pedentic has offered a reasonable alternative. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 03:43, 19 September 2007 (BST)
Actually I think I have an idea for testing that I should probably try, I'll let you know if it works. I don't know why but posting that template reminded me of something I saw boxy do before with {{S}}--Karekmaps?! 13:41, 19 September 2007 (BST)
Figured it out. It had to do with the Ifdef template. I fixed it on both Template:BuildingStatus and Template:MallStatus--Karekmaps?! 01:27, 20 September 2007 (BST)
Ah, the toil of the faceless wiki member. Thanks for your help. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 13:21, 20 September 2007 (BST)
Just out of curosity, do you have any idea how to go about extracting a variable from something like a bic report for use in a separate template(like say a modified suburb danger report)?--Karekmaps?! 13:26, 20 September 2007 (BST)
Afraid not. Don't be fooled, I actually know very little about the intricacies of the wiki. I mostly just learn as I go along. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 14:41, 20 September 2007 (BST)

[edit] Header?

My header. Help me with it, please?  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  04:58, 17 September 2007 (BST)

[edit] Zerging?

How do you know Brainz is a zerger? The person never provided evidence that his alts were in the same place at the same time? For all we know, DrSpears moved out to make way for DrCorpse, in the instance that he mentioned.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  03:44, 17 September 2007 (BST)

You'll have to forgive me if I've jumped the gun a bit. If the report is not accepted, I'll undo my edit to my signature. Even so, if your explanation is true, that's still in very bad taste, quite possibly alt-abuse. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 03:47, 17 September 2007 (BST)
Alt abuse, according to the wiki? Possibly. Illegal zerging? If I'm right, no. I'm occasionally a hypocrite-I try not to be- but I try to give the BOTD.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  03:49, 17 September 2007 (BST)
Sorry if I'm just a bit jaded with Extinction, and I generally try to follow the same rule, but unless Token Black Man (or another mod on rezens) rules otherwise, I'm going with zerging. I'm pretty sure I've jumped the gun as it has yet to have been made "official," but if the report is not accepted, I'll publicly apologize on the Extinction talk page about the damage to their group. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 03:53, 17 September 2007 (BST)
This Might be a better sig link for that.--Karekmaps?! 11:19, 18 September 2007 (BST)
I just saw your sig TSG (the surgeon general)....so whats new? :P The man 20:51, 28 September 2007 (BST)
Thanks for that link Karek, edited. Nothin' much man, just living day to day. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 05:30, 29 September 2007 (BST)

[edit] A request

Good evening. I was browsing the list of double redirects and noticed that the vast majority are related to the DHPD. Would you be willing to work on correctly directing some of those pages? I'm willing to do it, but I figured that since you are with the DHPD you might wish to have some input. Thanks! --Pedentic 01:45, 13 September 2007 (BST)

Ah, I see. I just recently redirected all DHPD talk pages to the main talk page (so that comments didn't fall through the cracks) and I didn't think of this. I'll get on it when I have the time in the next few days. Thanks for pointing it out to me. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 02:39, 13 September 2007 (BST)
Never mind, taken care of. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 03:45, 13 September 2007 (BST)
Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter. Have a great day! --Pedentic 03:40, 14 September 2007 (BST)
I just noticed this under "double redirects": User talk:SillyLillyPilly redirects to two places! How does that work? --Pedentic 03:44, 14 September 2007 (BST)
That makes no sense... it just ends up at a talk page... who knows. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 03:54, 14 September 2007 (BST)

[edit] Am I an idiot?

OK just logged on again for the first time in a while and saw your message. Thanks for the heads-up, but I don't get what it is I'm doing wrong/not doing! I've checked the box for signatures and put my signature in like you told me to, in fact I did that before the last batch of edits I did, after which you told me I was still doing it wrong. So when I use the sig button in posts it gives this: --Not Invented Here 22:33, 12 September 2007 (BST) So what else am I supposed to be doing? or doing differently? Thanks --Tom Thumb

Are you sure you have in your box just [[User:Tom Thumb|Tom Thumb]]? And that's it? I have [[User:The Surgeon General|The Surgeon General]] currently for the purpose of this question (and no, you are not an idiot), and I get this: :--The Surgeon General 02:35, 13 September 2007 (BST)
And that's all. If you are still having problems, let me know. --The Surgeon General 02:35, 13 September 2007 (BST)

OK, let's clear this up now so I can go back to editing! In my signature box on my preferences page, I have put my nickname "Not Invented Here". Is this right? Or what? I know this is a really lame issue to be asking about but I'd rather be able to sign as my main Extinction character as Extinction is really the only reason I am still playing this game! So am I supposed to put something else in that box? Or what? I've read the various info you've linked me to, but all it seems to tell me is to tick that box, which I've done, and to fill in my nickname, which I've done. Confuuuuuuuuuuuused --Not Invented Here 23:20, 13 September 2007 (BST)

You put [[user:Tom Thumb|Not Invented Here]], that should get your desired result.--Karekmaps?! 01:25, 14 September 2007 (BST)
Ach, right, forgot that that is what we're going through all this for. Just copy/paste [[User:Tom Thumb|Not Invented Here]] into the "Nickname" area, fill in the box for the "Raw signatures," then save. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 02:06, 14 September 2007 (BST)

Thanks! --Not Invented Here 11:29, 15 September 2007 (BST)

Perfect. Feel free to update all you desire. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 17:15, 15 September 2007 (BST)

[edit] Aha!

Thanks for that. The reason I thought that this was a rule, was because Blood Panther (the person arguing with Jorm in the example you showed me) harrassed me for months, changing my danger levels, deleting my posts, and citing rules that must have gotten into the back of my head. I'll retake a look at the danger level of the suburb and will probably leave it for the time being (I'm all scouted out for the day). Was just trying to help clean up all of the bias level changing (on both sides) that started a couple of days ago. Thanks for the tip - next time I send a horde into Ketchelbank and BP screws with my posts/edits, I'm going to castrate him and then send him to you. --Donathin 16:32, 8 September 2007 (BST)

I'm happy to help. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 22:07, 8 September 2007 (BST)

[edit] Un-boxed external links

I was browsing the wiki and came across the page for the Uncyclopedian Forces. While there, I noticed that they used external links without getting the little boxes next to them. The code is this: <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.google.com external site]</span> to make this: external site. Just thought I'd share that, in case it turns out to be useful. Have a great day! --Pedentic 21:55, 5 September 2007 (BST)

An excellent find, thanks for showing it to me. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 22:18, 5 September 2007 (BST)
Consider it the beginning of payment for all the help that you have given me. --Pedentic 03:44, 8 September 2007 (BST)

[edit] Recruitment

Hey TSG, I created a recruitment template at DHPD/Recruit to go along with the new recruitment page guidelines. I don't know how I wound up being the timestamp guy there (probably happened when I noticed our ad had been nuked after Conn stopped policing the page), but my sig's already on ads for a couple of other groups. Could you maybe stop by when you get a chance and replace my sig with yours, or maybe appoint a new timestamp cop if you haven't time to do it? Thanks, mate. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 04:17, 22 August 2007 (BST)

Sure, I can do it, just gotta remind myself every now and again. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 04:47, 22 August 2007 (BST)
Thanks again, mon. Hey, the DHPD pages are looking really good now, btw. :) -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 06:24, 22 August 2007 (BST)

[edit] Really sorry

Thanks for editing my signiture on a suggestion page! I wanted to call my signiture template, but was too tired to add /sig in the end! Really sorry and thanks again for correcting my blunder! -- John RubinT! ZG FER 21:06, 21 August 2007 (BST)

[edit] Quarlesbank News

Do you have any idea of the history of Quarsbank? Obviously to you, the return of it's most infamous resident doesn't count as news!? A lot would disagree. I created and wrote that page from day one and now you come along dictating what you see to be fit? May I remind you of Wiki rules, even though you think you might be doing the right thing, consider the people who play in this area and think what they might enjoy reading. There is a new development occuring in Q'bank and I will place it as I see fit.

Regards, Lord Pitman

-- Lord Pitman 22:25, 16 August 2007 (BST)

I assume you are making reference to this edit? I look forward to reading all news that is relevant to the condition of a suburb and any major events that are occurring. However, I feel that the return of just one player to an area is hardly worth an update by itself. I applaud your motivation, especially considering your opposition to Extinction, but I'm trying to be fair here. I'm a bit of a roleplayer myself and I greatly enjoy that aspect of the game, but saying that one survivor is now in an area could constitute an annoying predecessor, with players updating their movements within the game on the Wiki like it was a virtual journal. I have no wish for confrontation, arguing never solves anything and can create bitterness between two like-minded players, and I only wish that we make work together to improve the state of the Wiki. Can we not put this behind us? I only wish for an update to contain some shred of tactical data, just some bit that has worth and merit within the eyes of survivors and zombies alike. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 00:02, 17 August 2007 (BST)
Ah you seem to have my char the wrong way around lol. He is a Zed, and was the main survivor opposition in Q'bank for a long long time. My character is returning to once again rule the suburb since extiction wiped it so clean (you may notice a new group is forming in the light of the current situ), like I said a number of the groups had a running battle with the old 'PTS' group which made the news page an interesting metagame point. I can understand where you're coming from, but I just wanted to make you more aware of the significance of that news item; as I said a number of longterm Q'bankers enjoyed the stories that unfolded there. I personally think news shouldn't just be tacticle, as a lot of players aren't just interested in who controls what. Plus I don't want to keep a running journal, that'd give away too much and make life very dull. I'm not one to argue, but just wanted to hear your reasons behind the removal.
Regards, Lord Pitman (P.S. Happy Birthday for the end of the month)
-- Lord Pitman 19:07, 25 August 2007 (BST)
Of course, I understand. I too enjoy bits of news that aren't exactly related to the status of the suburb, such as events by the Drama Club and the like. And thank you. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 21:21, 23 August 2007 (BST)

[edit] Question

Is your signature broken, or is it meant to display that way? (Referring to the Template Junkies bit) It looks kind of weird here. Just curious... --Pedentic 20:26, 25 July 2007 (BST)

Update: now my sig look all weird (wikicode not working). It might just be my browser, but I'd like to know if you see the same. Here's a link. --Pedentic 23:03, 26 July 2007 (BST)
I'm seeing the exact same thing. Very odd... perhaps some updates are being made to the wiki with unexpected side effects. I'll look into it. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 20:44, 27 July 2007 (BST)
Out of curiousity (and on the off chance it matters), what internet browser do you use? I'm using IE 7. --Pedentic 20:12, 28 July 2007 (BST)
Typically Firefox, but right now AOL 9.0. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 20:18, 28 July 2007 (BST)
So I guess that rules out a brower-specific issue...interesting... --Pedentic 01:43, 2 August 2007 (BST)
Here's a thought: Could it be the wikicode on that page that's causing it? I know that much random coding has happened there... --Pedentic 23:14, 21 August 2007 (BST)
I would assume, but there's no telling what it is. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 00:23, 22 August 2007 (BST)

[edit] Thanks for the help

I changed my urban dead profile just like you asked (I didnt use caps). Also, i just registered with the DHPD Internal Comm. Forum. Thanks for all the help! To review my profile use OfficerButler

[edit] Thanks

A FREE COOKIE
Pedentic has given The Surgeon General a cookie for great patience and general helpfulness
Yay! *grabs cookie* --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 05:15, 4 June 2007 (BST)

[edit] Creating a recruiting add

Hey how are you doing surgeon, I am wondering if you would know how to creat an add for the groups recruiting page, and if so could you give me a hand creating it.--JleggittMR 16:18, 1 June 2007 (BST)

I'm guessing for the Malton Rangers, right? It's easy. Just sum up your group and what they're all about in 200 words or less, not including the first instance of your group name, put it in alphabetical order. You can use a pic, as long as it's 275px or less. Also, you'll need to update the time stamp every once in a while. More than two weeks without and update passes, your ad is removed. Frankly, the Recruitment page does a much better job of explaining all the small nuances. Also, since I do assume this is for the MR, you're much better suited to craft an ad than myself. Just follow the guidelines and suggestions given on the recruitment page and I'm sure it'll turn out great. If you need help with colors or formatting, I can do that, but you'll need to make the body of the ad yourself. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 18:12, 1 June 2007 (BST)
I was planning on getting all of the text and images setup but having you give it a look at the formatting and what not after I made the first part I will send you the link after I finish the add. Thanks again --JleggittMR 17:52, 2 June 2007 (BST)
here is the link for the add let me know what you think. [1]--JleggittMR 18:06, 2 June 2007 (BST)
Looks fine. If you don't want a border or background, copy/paste it on the recruitment page, substituting "ZOMG Recruitment - JOIN TODAY!" at the top with Malton Rangers. Remember to put it in alphabetical order. Oh, and I fixed one small formatting thing in your ad. Good luck in recruiting. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 18:43, 2 June 2007 (BST)
Thanks for looking that over for me and helping out with it.--JleggittMR 21:33, 2 June 2007 (BST)

[edit] Regarding Project Mentor

I was wondering if you would be willing to take me on as a second mentee, should the rules permit that. You've been great in the past, and I think that I could still use the help. Thanks for your consideration. --Pedentic 03:44, 21 May 2007 (BST)

Not a problem. To your talk page we go! --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 04:10, 21 May 2007 (BST)

[edit] Hey

Man, you have guys asking you questions everywhere. Ever thought of making a separate page for them all? --KamdenM|W|T|H 16:17, 11 May 2007 (BST)

Eh, not really. Just trying to help the people, you know. I'm probably going to archive all this stuff soon... --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 22:07, 11 May 2007 (BST)

[edit] Hey I have another question

Hey I have a question about making subpages for any alts that I may have I was wondering if I could ask for you assistance.--JleggittMR 03:32, 10 May 2007 (BST)

Not a problem. If you had a character by the name, say... Omar Rum Runner... just make a page called User:Jleggitt/Omar Rum Runner. In case you weren't aware, I have ears and eyes everywhere ;) --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 03:43, 10 May 2007 (BST)
you heard about my new group, well I guess I will have to do a better job of hiding my whereabouts in game then ; ) at least you are a HAT supporter.--JleggittMR 16:15, 11 May 2007 (BST)
You're not gonna be able to hide from me dude, but it's alright, your secret is safe with me. --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 22:07, 11 May 2007 (BST)

[edit] Yet another question

Sorry to clutter your talk page some more, but I was wondering: must a group be "confirmed" to be allowed a wiki page? Thanks! --Pedentic 03:41, 4 May 2007 (BST)

Nah, I don't mind a bit. I'm with Project Mentor, so I'm glad to help out other wiki members. On topic, no. There are many legit groups that have wiki pages, yet don't have enough members to show up on the stats page. Although it helps, it is not necessary to be confirmed. Go ahead and create a wiki page for a group, then start recruiting! --TSG reads Daily Ruminations - You should too! 03:45, 4 May 2007 (BST)
One more thing (for the moment): do you know what's going on with Calvert Mall's entry in the Mall Information Center? I've examined it and can find nothing wrong, but those {{{2}}} things look awfully odd... --Pedentic 22:00, 4 May 2007 (BST)
I glanced over it, but I couldn't see anything. Confusing... I'll look into some more. --TSG [[Daily Ruminations|c]] 23:29, 4 May 2007 (BST)
I've taken a screenshot of the problem, and it can be seen