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User Talk Archive #2

Axe Hack's Manhunt 4

This is a reminder to you and all the other contestants that AHMH4 begins in exactly one week. Please be in the playing area before the competition begins. Good luck, and happy hunting! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:26, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

From User:PHYEND

Oh, sorry! But is that i not understood manage of TALK here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PHYEND (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

From User:FLZombie

Thanks for the help with the MOB recruitment ad. I was going to do something like that, but my editing skills are very lacking. I showed it to Bisfan, and he says it looks great too. --FLZombie 02:02, 31 March 2011 (BST)

Thanks but uhhh...I don't remember working on it. ~Vsig.png 04:24, 31 March 2011
Hmm. I wonder who did. I guess I misread the history folder or something. --FLZombie 07:15, 31 March 2011 (BST)
Do you mean this history report? You might be looking for User:Smyg, then but I see his only contribution is categorizing the ad with Category:Recruitment. ~Vsig.png 07:20, 31 March 2011
I figured it out. Yes, Smyg did categorize it, but I was referring to the bulk of the editing. It was actually created a few years ago. We had somehow lost track of this page, and it had remained unused for a while. I just really suck at understanding histories. It has gotten me in trouble before, so I usually just avoid looking at them. Thanks anyway for the clarification. --FLZombie 20:41, 2 April 2011 (BST)

Updating Template Group Guidelines

I haven't forgotten about this but it's going to be on my backburner until I finish up school in early May. -MHSstaff 04:57, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Haven't forgotten either. I get like 10 or 15 minutes wiki time here and there and its been consumed with other shiz atm but I'll work on Play Style and other suburb group related stuff when I get some solid editing time. ~Vsig.png 05:05, 23 March 2011


how would one change the entire font of a page (for AH). tried playin around but F4!L'd --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 12:17, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


:) It isn't an actual orphanage message. (I'd certainly not use an internal link for it.) It's rather poking the troll with a pointy stick. -- Spiderzed 14:44, 30 March 2011 (BST)

Heh I figured. Considering he won't be able to come and link his own page anyway. But honetly I think a small yellow box at the top of the page letting everyone viewing it know it is an Orphan won't hurt. Maybe just maybe someone will care enough to link it somewhere. If not, well then I guess the yellow banner stays. ~Vsig.png 14:50, 30 March 2011
Oh wait I see that it's the Corn puppet/alt that made it. I've not been around much for the last couple of days so I totally missed the A/VB case until now. ~Vsig.png 15:04, 30 March 2011


yo, what were u gonna DSS me about? i got all excited, and then... nothing........ *wah* ps/ i do think we should someday have a PREST versus MEST event of some sort--    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 22:06, 31 March 2011 (BST)

It was the CNN thing. I decided to just blurt it out in game instead. I keep forgetting to write down my pin and install the script on my primary comp. Anyway I just wanted your opinion about it. ~Vsig.png 23:32, 31 March 2011

CNN looks good. Wonder how long this current VGAerging will last. Just when we thought they'd gone! --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 09:33, 1 April 2011 (BST)

Developing Events Workspace

Totally for the idea, not for the idea of DDR complaining about it. I'll see about mocking up something for us to improve on in the next few days, I'll have more time starting friday. Right now I think the major purpose of it should be developing event articles since those are actually developing content and not simply under construction pages(which should just have the template added). The difference being one doesn't have facts yet and the other obviously just needs work. --Karekmaps?! 08:41, 7 April 2011 (BST)

Sounds good. I'll help when and where I can. I agree the focus should be on developing events. Maybe Developing Good Articles would be a worthwhile project in the future, though. Like Developing Guides but with a focus on helping people create/expand articles into general awesomeness. ~Vsig.png 14:53, 7 April 2011
I could actually swear that there is an underused area from a long time ago for general article development. --Karekmaps?! 16:25, 7 April 2011 (BST)
Possibly UDWiki:Style Guide? What are your thoughts on namespace for developing events? I thought it might be good if it is attached to Current Events in some way, although that page is dismally underkept. Of course Developing Events would work just fine. ~Vsig.png 07:25, 8 April 2011
Like most developing pages, I believe we paste them on wiki news. Current events would be an alright portal for developing pages, maybe talk:current events, either way, as long as you put a notice on the main page, traffic and help will come regardless of how unkept the page is otehrwise. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 11:14, 8 April 2011 (BST)
Actually, I just noticed something in my ProjDev pages when I was about to make a new one to develop this in. I actually think we could potentially mutate that into something for this with little effort. Feel free to edit it in places you think it could use some more work to be better fit for this kind of thing(like with all my ProjDev stuff actually).--Karekmaps?! 04:44, 9 April 2011 (BST)
That's pretty cool, man. I could see that turning to a hub for development pages such as Developing Suggestions, Developing Guides, Developing Events and Developing Good Articles and a multitude of other things like UDWiki:Projects, Technical Help, Wiki Questions and so on. Maybe through smart use of subpages and inclusions one could simply use this page to get an overview of things that are in development. I'll try to put some work into it. ~Vsig.png 19:33, 9 April 2011

Wholesale spambit slaughter

You sir, are the bane of internetis spambiticus. Well done, sir. Well done.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 16:12, 8 April 2011 (BST)

If you're ever in the mood for a good laugh, try clicking on the links in some of these spam pages (carefully of course. make sure you know where that link will take you). These recent spammers are using links to other wikis which they have sapmmed up, creating an endless loop of spamdexing links. If I really really wanted to fuck their shit up, I would just follow the links, blanking each wiki page as I went along. I sometimes wonder if there is a master program at the end, like if you I went through enough spammed wiki pages I would find MCP and destory him with light discs. End of line, MCP. End. Of. Line. ~Vsig.png 16:29, 8 April 2011
you.. go outside for a walk. -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 16:32 8 April 2011 (UTC)
I don't know what I'm talking about, but clicking spammed links tells the spambots' command & control center that this wiki is active and full of people willing to click their links and maybe buy their junk, summoning an even greater spambot invasion. --VVV RPGMBCWS 21:29, 9 April 2011 (BST)
I don't really think that selling junk is the primary directive of the bots. They're trying to increase their client's page ranking on search engines like google by placing the link an any open channel on the internet possible. Wikis are at jeopordy since anyone can edit nearly any wiki page but blogs and other types of sites that allow comments from users are also at risk. They're trying to make it so that when someone does a google search on let's say "Jobs in Minnesota", one of the top results will be their own. Its called spamdexing. ~Vsig.png 21:38, 9 April 2011

Crat elections

I was originally bound to vote for Mis, but with his pending demotion, that doesn't seem to be an option anymore. Checking the sys-op list and thinking about it, I think you would be the next best candidate - you act very level-headed, manage to remain neutral and enter drama only as much as necessary, which are IMHO the three key traits of a good crat. Would you be up for running in May? You'd be bound to receive my support. -- Spiderzed 21:18, 10 April 2011 (BST)

Spider and you are the only ones prominent enough to beat DDR, right now. Yon, not trusting one as inexperienced as you, will back DDR, and the other sysops will lack the influence to play major roles. I think you're more popular than Spider (due to your levelheadedness and centrism). With Spider behind you, you could stand a chance of beating DRR. I wouldn't count on it (though I am always willing to wager golden fiddles), since he's got so much more experience, and many of the less-active voters will remember his productivity without having seen yours. But if DDR is to be evicted, you're the guy to do it. --VVV RPGMBCWS 22:05, 10 April 2011 (BST)
As always, I'll back Red, and should he not receive enough support, I'll most likely change to DDR, also as usual. I'd assume I'll also leave my name on the ballot unless it becomes a close race between two candidates. (Once again as I always do). If DDR decides not to run, I'll go to Boxy (who I'd bet is more likely to take down DDR than Vapor) and then Vapor after Boxy.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:08, 10 April 2011 (BST)
You've also got to consider historic association, where boxy has a lot of pull, plus my vote which will swing the whole election. I'm thinking thad. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:09, 10 April 2011 (BST)
I wouldn't be completely closed to the idea but certainly there are better candidates were they willing to run. Unless DDR intends not to run then boxy comes to mind first. If Red were more active he'd be a great crat. ~Vsig.png 22:18, 10 April 2011
DDR has exceeded my expectations, and I can definitely imagine him running unopposed. But I don't understand this hubbub about Boxy. If you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you. Now, you've made a pretty good sysop, boy, but give a layman his due. I bet a fiddle of gold against your soul, that boxy won't win the election. --VVV RPGMBCWS 22:33, 10 April 2011 (BST)
If DDR doesn't run, Boxy will win the election. There are 3 crats on this wiki; Ross, DDR and Boxy. If DDR runs, it'll be fairly tight, but Boxy's been a bit inactive, so he probably won't win. If DDR doesn't win, almost all of his votes will drop on to Boxy.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:37, 10 April 2011 (BST)
So either Trips gets my soul or the wiki does....hmmm. Well at least I'd get a shiny gold fiddle. That sells it. ~Vsig.png 22:42, 10 April 2011
Theres more crats out there than just us 3. Besides, its not bloody hard. Any fool can do it. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:46, 10 April 2011 (BST)
The majority of people really don't want anybody else though. You and DDR to make the right decisions on renewal, Boxy the right decisions on removal. That's how I see it at least.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:49, 10 April 2011 (BST)
That's what the election is for though. To see what the majority wants. You're probably right but you can't make that call a month before the election begins. ~Vsig.png 23:00, 10 April 2011
Too bad that Vapor won't run. I might have to run myself then, in order to create any illusion of democracy on UDWiki, assuming that Boxy will withdraw once more early. (And while I think that I have some popularity, I'm probably far too opinionated to sway any majority.) -- Spiderzed 23:02, 10 April 2011 (BST)
I didn't say I wouldn't run. ~Vsig.png 23:04, 10 April 2011
Rev is going to win by a trillion earned votes guys, no point discussing I'm afraid. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 23:05, 10 April 2011 (BST)
I always try and aim to get at least one technically proficient crat in place, preferably in different countries. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:06, 10 April 2011 (BST)
Allow me to hunt Rev down by the end of the month and confiscate his puter! -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 23:09, 10 April 2011 (BST)

This discussion has got me thinking: How hilarious would a voting preferences system be on UDWiki's crat elections. And by funny I mean awful. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 06:19, 11 April 2011 (BST)

Well, in practice we essentially have one. The alternative would be locking votes after they've been made, but with the amount of drop outs, it would be quite disastrous.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:06, 11 April 2011 (BST)
Yeah a lot of peeps will even state their preference in their vote. I could see how it might be beneficial when a sysop drops after receiving some votes but man that would be a real pain in the ass to tally. ~Vsig.png 14:42, 11 April 2011
This is why we avoid democracy whenever possible. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:50, 11 April 2011 (BST)


nice v upgrade! --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 08:31, 11 April 2011 (BST)

I disagree. Vapor's level of artistic taste is not that well developed. His account has clearly been hacked. I suggest the account be permabanned before the perpetrator can do additional damage. --VVV RPGMBCWS 08:48, 11 April 2011 (BST)
I believe it is the V from the American television show of the same I mean thanks, I like it too. I would never upload copyrighted material to this wiki. ~Vsig.png 14:47, 11 April 2011

Before I forget

Thanks--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:51, 12 April 2011 (BST)

Prize wheel

The last two times you spun ur prize wheel I got {{nothing}}. I think it's broken. ~Vsig.png 20:51, 13 April 2011

Actually no. The first time you got no prize. The second, you got a template containing nothing, which you can proudly display in your namespace. --VVV RPGMBCWS 20:58, 13 April 2011 (BST)
I plopped it onto User:Vapor/archives/main since it such an awesome page. ~Vsig.png 21:13, 13 April 2011
BTW if you still want it moved that is fine. It is like four clicks and if it makes coding your group page easier then I don't mind doing it at all. ~Vsig.png 21:22, 13 April 2011
TripleU said:
I kinda do want it moved.
I would have given you a spin if you did it, but because you weren't bold enough to do it without asking, you will get no prize. Edit first, ask questions later. --VVV RPGMBCWS 00:03, 14 April 2011 (BST)
Meh. At least now you know about page transclusions now. And in my defense you were a bit non-commital in your edit summary. I'll do it now. I'll try to be bold about it. ~Vsig.png 00:38, 14 April 2011
You forgot an e. --VVV RPGMBCWS 00:46, 14 April 2011 (BST)
What on earth are you talking about?~Vsig.png 00:47, 14 April 2011
You dropped the e from ville Vapor. -MHSstaff 00:49, 14 April 2011 (BST)
Are you sure? That totally doesn't sound like something I would do completly on accident. ~Vsig.png 00:54, 14 April 2011
Why not make it like Template:Constable or Template:ConstableMember or something? The other one is like totally hard to spell. -MHSstaff 00:49, 14 April 2011 (BST)
I think I might know what the problem is. I stuggled with the same problems when learning how to use {{ifdef}}. Mind if I have a go at it? ~Vsig.png 05:19, 14 April 2011
Please do. You'll know it works when there's a golden link to my user page here, after "A Maggot". I'm fairly confident that the problem is near the end of the code. You will get a spin if you succeed. --VVV RPGMBCWS 05:23, 14 April 2011 (BST)
I'm feeling lucky. C'mon big money. The problem was that you were using a pipe inside of your ifdef statement. You have to use {{!}} if you want a pipe. I also manually defined the ifdef variables using 1= for the first variable and 2= for the second. I've found that it is sometimes necessary as well. ~Vsig.png 05:27, 14 April 2011
You frighten me. *shudders* I will now refer to you as Wizard.
You won the most entertaining prize of all: death
Sinistar.jpg BEWARE, COWARD!
SlNlSTAR will continually attempt to kill v4por until he is successful or v4por kills SlNlSTAR.
Before you start questioning my fairness, let me reassure you that your prize was determined by atmospheric static, as always. Blame the Random Number God, and enjoy your prize, Wizard. --VVV RPGMBCWS 05:36, 14 April 2011 (BST)
Hmm...I'm intrigued. So it's a duel, eh? I must warn you I'm a horrible PKer. I may even be as bad or worse than Axe Hack. Maybe I'll summon some wizardly powers and find you unawares, though. It's on like Donkey Kong. ~Vsig.png 05:51, 14 April 2011

how did you get the small date/time stamp

with a templated sig? mother fucker? -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 04:16 14 April 2011 (UTC)
I have the following sexy ass damn code in my preferences:
{{SUBST:Nosubst|User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>{{subst:LOCALTIME}}, {{subst:LOCALDAY}} {{subst:LOCALMONTHNAME}} {{subst:LOCALYEAR}}</sub>
I also have the Raw signatures (without automatic link) box checked cuz that's how I roll and I always use three tildes when I want to sign my shit. Word. ~Vsig.png 05:03, 14 April 2011
ahhh! and thad. don't you just love him? i wonder how much he gets beat up in real life? -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 15:23 15 April 2011 (UTC)
no i think i like the old way better as one line. :/ -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת15:33, 15 April 2011
but it's good to know i can do it if I feel like playing around more with the boobs. :P-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking       bitch   15:36 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Who doesn't feel like playing with more boobs? I've actually changed mine now (at least temporarily) to help cut down some of the template calls on the admin pages. I really liked not cluttering up discussion with sig code but if it helps not break pages, I'll take one for the team I guess. ~ Vapor ~ 15:43, 15 April 2011
Testing. ~ Smallv.png ~ 16:18, 15 April 2011
Wasn't there a case where we ruled that kind of sig was vandalism? Or did that change when I wasn't looking? --Karekmaps?! 04:44, 16 April 2011 (BST)
Don't know. It's not against policy I don't think. I didn't go digging through old VB cases before I changed it. I can't imagine ruling vandalism on something like it, though. What grounds? ~ Smallv.png ~ 06:57, 16 April 2011
Will peruse and get back to you. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 12:39, 16 April 2011 (BST)
Iscariot had a similar one (may still have it as his sig). I found them troublesome, because the only way you can check who made the comment, is to check the history, or click on the link. We should be able to tell, just by mouseovering the link, who made a comment. Some wiki gurus have found a way around it, I think, so that mouseovering the image shows a link to the userpage. I don't think anyone bothered to send Iscariot, or anyone else, to A/VB for it though -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:50 16 April 2011 (BST)
Basically, the arguement is that a link to your user page is required in your sig. A redirect from an image page doesn't exactly fit the criterian. It's not a problem when it's obvious who's sig it is (ie. if the image spells out the name, or a close approximation), but it has the potential to be used to be intentionally misleading -- boxy talkteh rulz 12:53 16 April 2011 (BST)
I remember that actually, found it cause of you archiving stuff. Link to that discussion and the solutions there in. Here is another instance of that being brought up. Found a few more too. The Burgan one looks relevant, not definite on that though, it's a Clarity issue like the sexylegsread A/VB case(that I didn't link here) brings up. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 14:33, 16 April 2011 (BST)
I'll change it up a bit. ~ Smallv.png ~ 17:02, 16 April 2011
Would it be acceptable if I used an image with my entire username in it without including an actual link to my user page. I'm trying to come up with something that is not templated yet does not subst a bunch of code when I sign. If I don't have the option to use only an image then I'll likely just go back to a templated sig. √^¶°® 21:43, 16 April 2011
--> ~ Vapor ~ 17:02, 16 April 2011 <-- this ? Mouseover it.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:59, 16 April 2011 (BST)
Cool, I appreciate it. It that satisfies the requirements I'll run with it. √^¶°® 15:08, 18 April 2011
say wut? -- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking       bitch   14:51 16 April 2011 (UTC)

wow it works! small date!!!     : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 22:17, 22 April 2011

or you could just use the <small></small>code   bitch 23:17, 22 April 2011


made one, mostly cut'n'paste from C/vg --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 19:17, 15 April 2011 (BST)

Cool. I'll work on it an make it more NPOV. At the minimum, it needs to have an NPOV statement at the top of the page. ~ Smallv.png ~ 19:39, 15 April 2011
Best SIG ever! (the blackish red one)... ps HAPPY 420! --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 23:36, 19 April 2011 (BST)

How can I get a revive!? I've a genny n fuel and green lights and Malton Green and H34D5H07 KU5H, yet powerless... oh, one of those zeds is on 14HP. But really, Kevan should gimme an emergency revive in the spirit of 420! --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 07:55, 20 April 2011 (BST)

Get down on your knees and pray I guess. And while you're down there...Happy. I used all my syringes on VGA unfortunately. I'd say hang onto that genny and fuel. We'll be right as rain in no time and Mester will be a shining green beacon of hope dope once more. ~Vapor 14:31, 20 April 2011

Okay, one of those two zeds is on 2HP --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 15:13, 20 April 2011 (BST)

and now final zed also on 2hp --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 15:20, 20 April 2011 (BST)

if u kill it, i can leave while u repair, then let me in before putting cades up... --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 15:21, 20 April 2011 (BST)

Ok, get your ass outside so I can repair. ~Vapor 15:24, 20 April 2011

Out. Remember don't cade till I'm in --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 15:27, 20 April 2011 (BST)

Nice repairs! Loving this live action! --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 15:27, 20 April 2011 (BST)
Well if we can just get through the rest of the day without and VGA douchebaggery I'll be happy. Still 15 hours of 420 here in my neck of the woods. This is how I'm celebrating:


My local pub sells glassware every Wednesday with the purchase of a pint. Today's glass is the one above. ~Vapor 15:49, 20 April 2011

what a, uh, charming thing for a pub to do. only 8 hours left in london, but everyday is kinda 4/20. if u like cheech&chong u may like these - --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 15:54, 20 April 2011 (BST)
Well, our deaths came as expected, but at least Mester was lit up for some of 4/20. In fact, that was the only thing Sattano had to do in Malton during 2011. It's a shame that Dumbwit doesn't show Green Lights --    : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 09:23, 21 April 2011 (BST)

all i gotta do is copy yer code to mah page.

and the wiki ogres swoop in and fix it for ya? this is gonna be every lazy coders dream!

Lonelyguy.jpeg Code Stealer
This user is a wiki code stealer, and probably stealing your sidebar while you read this.
are back!-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking       bitch   22:05 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Happy. √^¶°® 15:09, 18 April 2011
when i get some down time next mouth.. oh boy are you gonna be busy.-- bitch15:52 18 April 2011 (UTC)
You assume I am one of said Ogres. I'll just put your page up on A/D and/or A/VB, sit back, and watch the magic happen. √^¶°® 16:08, 18 April 2011
Stop hand.png WARNING!!!
You are in srs danger of becoming a heterosexual.
Blow more men. Poof.
i was thinking of you as more a wikiz fairy... you are too helpful to be an ogre.-- bitch 17:08 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Nah. I'm more of a WikiSloth. I'm a pretty devout supporter of Don't-give-a-fuckism. ~Vapor 17:48, 19 April 2011


I think you may have made a typo, I'm not exactly sure what a spambit is but I have a feeling spambot is more what you were going for? --Karekmaps 2.0?! 13:49, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Nope, not a typo. Spambit is a colloquialism that began 2 years ago when Cheese accidentally pressed the "i" key instead of the "o" on his keyboard and it has stuck ever since. We even have an article dedicated to it: Spambit Hunters. I think including it on the Ipbreason-dropdown gives our wiki some personalization and makes the very mundane task of banning spambits a little bit more fun. I don't really want to change it. ~Vsig.png 14:13, 22 April 2011


you don't like my big messages :P well go fuck yourself!--  bitch 14:55, 22 April 2011
Hey I left them there for a whole 2 days before nuking them. You should be happy I don't have a talk page rule preventing you from posting on my talk page. Tha banhammah will drop. :P ~Vsig.png 14:58, 22 April 2011
you don't have the guts to do eeet!--  bitch 14:59, 22 April 2011

I'm testing something

This is only a test. ~Vsig.png 17:36, 22 April 2011

This is yet another test

But I'm not feeling hopeful. ~Vsig.png 17:40, 22 April 2011

Ok apparently you can't override edit summaries using &summary= when new also using &section=new. Damn. That'd be cool. ~Vsig.png 17:41, 22 April 2011
now you can suck both my balls! happy? :P bitch18:14, 22 April 2011 that...white space I see in the edit box? No way. Harrison's's so tiny. You know they make a pill for that, right? ~Vsig.png 18:16, 22 April 2011
aren't you glad I shave my pubic hairz? bitch 18:18, 22 April 2011
Too much fucking info, man. ~Vsig.png 18:41, 22 April 2011
fucking update blues.   bitch 18:20, 22 April 2011

yer gay

supa dupa gay--  bitch 18:10, 22 April 2011
poof   bitch  23:19, 22 April 2011
Oh, the irony. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD | 23:49, 22 April 2011 (BST)
i•ro•ny - its like goldy or bronzy only its made of iron. ~Vsig.png 00:49, 23 April 2011
what that you stalk my page like I stalk vapors?   bitch  19:19, 28 April 2011 (utc)


I don't think that's going to work. =/ Seems like the software is rejecting the broken character completely. -- Cheese 17:36, 23 April 2011 (BST)

Meh. It was worth a shot. ~Vsig.png 17:38, 23 April 2011
Least the images are gone though. -- Cheese 17:40, 23 April 2011 (BST)
I wonder if URL hacking will work now. I have to run but I'll look into it later. ~Vsig.png 17:59, 23 April 2011

Galbraith Hills

I'd contest your decision to lock the edits to the page with the status shown as dangerous. Members of The Dead (frequently with little previous history of updates) have been regularly and repeatedly modifying the suburb danger levels there and elsewhere without any explanation or basis for doing so. If the status is to be locked (and I think it should be), it should have been locked in the status it was in prior to the vandal updates by The Dead.

Otherwise I'd like to hear your recommendation and it shouldn't be simply "work it out in talk" as this is a matter of vandalism for propaganda purposes by The Dead. --Lord K 03:20, 27 April 2011 (BST) -Perform your job as wiki staff and review things instead of superfluously locking things.--Lord K 03:26, 27 April 2011 (BST)

Actually his job in all of this would be to lock it prior to the desputed edit and send your asses off to arbitration. So, basically, make an A/A case and it'll get done and then settled. Be sure to actually have proof of why your version is correct, dumbwits of the suburb would work. Otherwise your both wasting everyones time. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 04:27, 27 April 2011 (BST)
This user or group weeps rivulets of pubbie tears.

--!!! MySweetAssSignature.gif 03:29, 27 April 2011 (BST)

Without any basis for doing so? What basis do you have? We tend to just edit the danger levels once we've wrecked a suburb, occasionally correcting mistakes on other suburbs if we see them. We honestly don't really care enough about the danger levels that much considering their nature (updated manually / irregularly). Also, it seems like locking a danger level page is a terrible idea considering how quickly suburbs have been falling recently. By the by, we know everybody hates us, so we don't really have any need for "propaganda" beyond putting animated gifs on our group page. Just breathe deep, and remember that it's still just a zombie apocalypse browser game. You'll be ok! -- عبد الريحم بن حسين بن عبد الرحمن العراقي المصري‎ 08:23, 27 April 2011 (BST)

Starcraft 2

Just read on your old user page that you play. What race and league are you atm?--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 16:24, 27 April 2011 (BST)

I haven't played in quite some time, now. I played leagues for a bit but never climbed very far. It just was sucking away too much free time. Zerg was always my favorite race, though. I'd sometimes go Terran. Protoss just wasn't my style. ~Vsig.png 16:34, 27 April 2011
Fair enough. The leagues are hellish. :( I love zerg, but for now they're really underpowered against some of the others.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 16:36, 27 April 2011 (BST)
Maybe if I get some free time I'll jump on so you can totally pwn up on me. I had honestly not even thought about SC2 for a while until you just mentioned it. ~Vsig.png 16:44, 27 April 2011
Nah, I won't pwn you, I'm a nub.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 08:48, 28 April 2011 (BST)

stupid ?

so why is it when i sign i get a bunch of code instead of just {{User:Sexualharrison/sig}} ? just wondering...   bitch  19:21, 28 April 2011 (utc)

I think you're probably subst'ing your sig now rather than templating it. It's the difference between have {{subst:User:Sexualharrison/sig}} or {{NOSUBST|subst:User:Sexualharrison/sig}} in your preferences. On a related note I've adjusted your sig so that it doesn't break pages. There was an unclosed <small> tage ~Vsig.png 19:56, 28 April 2011
yeh i thought the</small> at the end would take of it. i was just trying to slim down my sig.

this is what I have now. {{SUBST:User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>{{subst:LOCALTIME}}, {{subst:LOCALDAY}} {{subst:LOCALMONTHNAME}} {{subst:LOCALYEAR}} (utc)</small> so i have to change it to whut now?   bitch  19:59, 28 April 2011 (utc)

If you want it to be templated (but I thought you didn't) you'll need to change it to {{NOSUBST|subst:User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>{{subst:LOCALTIME}}, {{subst:LOCALDAY}} {{subst:LOCALMONTHNAME}} {{subst:LOCALYEAR}} (utc)</small>. ~Vsig.png 20:29, 28 April 2011
I really don't care. it would cut down on the clutter i guess thats a good thing. so   bitch  23:45, 28 April 2011 (utc)


juz suicide repaired cross-a-r, right next to where u and Gish are. could u add a few cades while i sleep plz.     : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 18:16, 29 April 2011

  • You were killed by a zombie. (13 minutes ago). Gish is still there but probably not for long. ~Vsig.png 18:41, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

oh well, at least i've dropped the repair cost     : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 20:00, 29 April 2011


For actually trying to use the talk pages. Appreciated.
As for those who took it to A/VB, welp… Icon rolleyes.gif ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 05:50, 3 May 2011 (BST)

I try not to get involved in drama very often. Its not really what I signed up for. But when I do, I try to do it proper. ~Vsig.png Amurica. Fuck. Yeah 06:05, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I've noticed. You're far and away the most active sysop on this wiki in terms of sheer number of edits – hell, the most active user by a large margin – but you tend to shy away from the drama pages. I can respect that. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 07:19, 3 May 2011 (BST)
Ugh. Yeah I just was looking at Special:ActiveUsers and noticed the huge gap in contribs. Guess I'm spending too much time on the wiki. Doesn't really feel like it. Odd. ~Vsig.png Amurica. Fuck. Yeah 07:32, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Editing style has a lot to do with it too. Wouldn't sweat it.
Though, if you're worried, you could read this article and then take the test… Wikipediholic. Wink ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 07:37, 3 May 2011 (BST)
You're welcome, by the way. ~Vsig.png Amurica. Fuck. Yeah 07:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

My promotions bid

Just wondering if you were going to make a comment, one way or another, based on the answers to your questions? I'm hoping to get as many reasoned comments as possible (as opposed to one saying "he spends too much time fixing stuff!").--The General T Sys U! P! F! 11:37, 17 May 2011 (BST)M

thoughts on this user

bot or not? AudaBeaudry (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch  22:28, 18 May 2011 (utc)

Bot. I google translated it and it was just gibberish with an external link thrown into the mix. ~Vsig.png 22:38, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
yeah. it threw me cause it made a user pager.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch  22:43, 18 May 2011 (utc)

Actually, it did work…

…Since this is exactly what I did to fix it. Your mistake lay in only changing one link; I'm guessing you clicked the other link when you went to test it. Wink ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 01:31, 26 May 2011 (BST)

a Challenge

Hello, Mr. Diapor. I, Ryu, the greatest warrior, would like to challenge you to a duel. In fighting games. You have a choice of Super Street Fighter 2 Super Turbo, Street Fighter 3: Third Strike, Street Fighter Alpha 2 or 3 or, if you happen to have a 360, Super Street Fighter 4. If you are interested then I will give you the details on how we will play them.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ryu (talkcontribs) 10:19, May 27, 2011.

blah blah blah

ya, I'm just testing things around here - just starting off to play with HTML and CSS, so I just decided to play around with the table code generated by the urban dead scans
(since that's how the game makes the scans)

              And since that was one of the first tables I played around with - it wasn't quite align properly -_-" - but I'm up for incorporating it to the wiki - since the necrotech stuff seem so complicated (<- still not able to find the buttons to upload the images (as per when this was post <_>!)

--Zack Tam 13:57, 29 May 2011 (BST)

categorize this

can u do me a favor and categorize UDWiki:Projects/UHUB Discussion under Category:Discussion, kkthx --hagnat 18:38, 1 June 2011 (BST)

Was only semi-protected but I went ahead and made the edit. ~Vsig.png 18:43, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
i can not has save button :\ --hagnat
Hmm...that's odd. On looking at protection level, it does appear to be fully protected but instead of a big read warning when I try to edit I get No matching items in log.. S'pose I ought to log this edit on A/PT, then. ~Vsig.png 19:44, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


I don't know what's going through your head but in the case of Template:Wikipedia a soft redirect would require more than simply claiming the template is depricated(which, btw, not what depricated means). In this case a standard redirect is actually functionally better. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 07:03, 6 June 2011 (BST)

Basically it's just moronic to delete either of those redirects until the template isn't in use anywhere on the wiki. At which point a soft redirect to inform users of the new template is a reasonable step. As such I reverted them back to actual redirects for the sake of common sense.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 07:10, 6 June 2011 (BST)
Well then fix it or undelete it or whatever you feel is necessary. It was three days past voting and untouched by any other ops so I made a call. Technically it could have just been flat out deleted but I kept it based on some suggestions during voting. ~Vsig.png 07:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
By the way, the vote passed as a delete. Merge votes include an implicit delete so it was 5 to 4 in favor of deleting. ~Vsig.png 07:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
yeah, I misinterperted your comment when I made the undelete. It should be sorted for now. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 08:57, 6 June 2011 (BST)

Re:Sig Mashups

Yeah. Thats all I do is play with new code to kill time. Hence the crazy amount of edits to stuff in my user space :P        01:24, 8 June 2011 (BST)

Yeah nice job with the transparency stuff. So I propose you take on Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk VS. You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| as your first mashup. ~Vsig.png 01:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Erm.. I lack an image editor so those might not be the best two to have me try and combine. I suppose I could make it blink or something but in my mind breaking the sig policy would be killing most of the challenge.       02:09, 8 June 2011 (BST)
Isay throw it open to the community. Present a new challenge each week and have people submit their best mashup. You'll judge and pick winners. Maybe put together a few examples and then open up the first challenge. ~Vsig.png 02:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Sounds like a decent idea. I created the page here. I'm not sure how I'd throw it up as a community challenge but I'll figure that out later. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mazu (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.
RC stalkers will notice it and either take interest or not. That's pretty much how most of these time waster projects take off. Which reminds me, we haven't had a good quizzle in a while. I'll have to try to resurrect the ol quizbox. ~Vsig.png 05:33, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Yeah DDR took notice and that was only a few hours after I created it :P       12:52, 8 June 2011 (BST)


dick-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת19:26, 17 June 2011 (bst)

You can keep asking, but you may not suck my dick. I forbid it. ~Vsig.png 19:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
how dare you revert me on your own talk page!-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת19:30, 17 June 2011 (bst)
If I don't enforce my own page rules then who will? ~Vsig.png 19:33, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


No sweat updating for others :) We (or these days rather I) can't control anyway who is in whose group (or allied with which group), nor do we want to investigate. As long as there is a valid and fresh enough time-stamp by anyone, it is clear that there is someone with an interest to see the ad kept up. -- Spiderzed 18:35, 19 June 2011 (BST)

Yeah its all good. I'm a little surprised Lady Clitoria hasn't updated it actually. She's pretty OCD about it usually. Now with Trips inactive its not looking good for AH. They may in fact be an icle group now. Need to check upp on them.~Vsig.png 18:49, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


Uhm, why did you do this? --Karekmaps 2.0?! 08:00, 20 June 2011 (BST)

I looked over the hist before protecting it and found the edit just prior to the edit warring and reverted it. ~Vsig.png 14:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


I demand an explanation.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 23:47, 22 June 2011 (BST)

heh sorry bro. Wiki editing duringlong discussion via cell phone sucks ass. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ~Vsig.png 23:56, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
And you still refuse to play me at starcraft. <.< I'm beginning to get suspicious of you, young padawan.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 00:02, 23 June 2011 (BST)
refused? Nevar. Just had a busy May and early June. I shall reinstall and accept your challenge. Unless you happen to have Portal 2 in which case we should totally co-op. I just downloaded from Steam a few days ago. ~Vsig.png 04:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I've played the original portal, and I wasn't really a fan, so I haven't got around to getting portal 2. Are you talking starcraft 2, right?--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 17:10, 23 June 2011 (BST)
Yeah, SC2. I have it but have since uninstalled it to make room on the laptop's HDD. I can reinstall it to take up your challenge, though. Since we're across the pond from one another, we'll have to work around time zones. I typically don't play games until my daughter sleeps, which is generally about 10PM. I'm in CDT which is probably like 7AM for you. At times, I'll stay up until 2AM or so playing so if you're up for SC2 between 7AM and 10AM, we should set a time. ~Vsig.png 17:16, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
right, I have exams tomorrow, so it'll need to be the weekend at the soonest, but I'm on holiday from then until september, so realistically any time that's good for you.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 17:19, 23 June 2011 (BST)
And the time zone difference works out to between 4 and 8am for me, so I'll need to work that all out, but that may be impossible for me to manage. :P --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 17:31, 23 June 2011 (BST)
Yeah I figured the time zones might cause a problem. Well there may be times when I can get on sooner. I try not to let games get in the way of parenting but there are times when I get a break during the day. Father's day would have been good. I had a free day. ~Vsig.png 18:02, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Nah, I totally get it. Real life should always come before gaming and such. As I say, I'll probably get a chance to stay up until 4 some time in the next month or so, but I'll need to start relaxing after exams first.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 22:58, 23 June 2011 (BST)

The Grimmies

Knish.png A FREE KNISH
sexualharrison has given vapor a Knish for Codeing the shit out The Grimmies
-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת19:33, 28 June 2011 (bst)
Mmm knish. ~Vsig.png 19:50, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Winner and Nominees templates?-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת03:55, 10 July 2011 (bst)

sure I'll whip something up. Uh, may not be as stylistifc as you might hope. No photochop while I'm on vacation. ~Vsig.png 03:59, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
no hurry than. we have like two weeks at least before we need em'-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת06:29, 10 July 2011 (bst)
poke!-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת00:54, 26 July 2011 (bst)
Ta-da!.~Vsig.png 02:14, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

ZALP Thanks

ZALPsmall.png Thank you for your support
Dear Vapor/archives2:

We at Z.A.L.P. have noticed your interest as evidenced by the images you contributed to the main scent map. We would like to thank you for your support and offer you the opportunity to make a bigger difference in Malton through further contributions or by becoming a ZALP Partner in Conservation. ZALP’s Partners in Conservation are among the most loyal and dedicated supporters of ZALP’s work to protect the future of our food supply. Partners in Conservation contribute critical donations of time, scent maps, and brain or brain substitute products necessary to support and expand ZALP’s conservation efforts throughout Malton. Our community of philanthropic leaders understand that achieving success depends on long term partnerships – relationships that set examples for others to invest in our city’s future.

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Contributions that come from our Partners in Conservation are dynamic, flowing wherever they are most needed to address the most pressing threat to our hunger city at any time. These resources have an extraordinary impact on our work to protect harmans, preserve habitats and conserve natural resources. Our science-based approach – buoyed by our record of success – is uniquely positioned to ensure our mission to maintain a living city.

As a Partner in Conservation, you can join our community of leaders who believe in harman conservation. You can be assured that your contributions will be consumed responsibly as we operate in a mission-sensitive manner. Won’t you consider joining our community today? And if not, please keep those contributions coming in whatever form you can. Your current contribution level has been added to the donor wall. It is concerned Zambahz like you who prove that there may be hope for this city after all.
--Albert Schwan Albert Schwan 

That's a pretty spiffy template you got there. ~Vsig.png 04:59, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I made it from scratch *mumbles* (and a bunch of code stolen and adapted from Necrowatch). Thank you also for updating your scent scan total on the donor page. Please feel free to fill in the other fields under your entry if you wish to credit a group or a character. Or leave them blank if you prefer to remain incognito. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  22:57, 29 June 2011 (BST)
More or less just me indepentdent from my group. Been spending more time in an RP than I generally care for so decided to do some scentmapping. I don't know how regularly I'll be updating but will keep it in mind when I get oppurtunities. Maybe more often if I un-retire an alt. ~Vsig.png 23:41, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough. Me coda es su coda. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  04:52, 30 June 2011 (BST)


care to rule on the ban avoision case? --Rosslessness 17:24, 18 July 2011 (BST)

Oh, and Im pretty sure we dont save 3er vandals in vandal data. No real point. --Rosslessness 17:25, 18 July 2011 (BST)
But we do record ban avoidance in cases where they went through standard VB. In this recent set it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to compile a VD at the end since there is at least one not vandalism a/vb ruling--Karekmaps 2.0?! 11:08, 19 July 2011 (BST)

Unnecessary banned user pages (The User: pages of permabanned spambots and vandal alts (that have no contributions showing) are to be deleted on sight.) Scheduled, so don't bother. --Rosslessness 17:57, 18 July 2011 (BST)

Ok. Certainly saves me the trouble. ~Vsig.png 17:59, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Just trying to spur interest... a new group I'm working on. It's called Desu Nōto. Interested? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:26, 1 August 2011 (BST)

I'll check it out some time in the near future. I might be interested in joining a new group. ~Vsig.png 20:12, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


Aren't you supposed to wait two weeks to delete unused images? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 12:15, 2 August 2011 (BST)

Image's most recent revision was in April 2010. The bot edit in July 2011 is adding a template saying that it is unlinked.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:31, 2 August 2011 (BST)
Yeah, from July 29th. That's why I thought we were supposed to wait two weeks from it being unused, not from image creation. Otherwise, we could technically delete something like File:Dead-Transparent.png the instant it became unused, as it has been around since 2009. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 13:01, 2 August 2011 (BST)
And that's why scheduled tasks are not mandatory, there are common sense acceptions and always have been. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 15:33, 3 August 2011 (BST)
Nah, its always been images which are on the unused files list and which are at least two weeks old. That particular image was unused due to a page deletion, actually. Typically when i delete a page with images, I'll go ahead and delete the images too if it was only used on that page. Its just regular maintenance. ~Vsig.png 18:13, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
That particular one was the first in the series. I was more keeping an eye on the Malton Carabinieri pages. However, that is an interesting, if unusual way to do things. I'll mention to The General that The Generalbot needs to have a clarification so as to not confuse people. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 09:30, 3 August 2011 (BST)
Meh, not really unusual just meticulous. In regards to the Malton Carbenari images, I didn't realize that you were trying to talk them into archiving their group page. If they decide they want to go that route, the images can be undeleted via A/U. As for the generlbot, it might not be a bad idea to be more specific with orphaned image notification. {{Orphanedimage}} mentions it will be deleted after two weeks, but notification is not specific that it is two weeks from the upload date. ~Vsig.png 15:11, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Through standard wiki functions there's no way to tell when an image became unused iirc. So it's more or less always meant upload is used unfortunately. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 15:31, 3 August 2011 (BST)
Considering your bot posts the messages just base it off the time it posted the notifications.        23:11, 3 August 2011 (BST)
Its The General with the bot and I more had in mind asking him to add a word ot two to the script so that it is more explicit that unused images may be deleted two weeks from their upload date. ~Vsig.png 23:39, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
The message which it uses is defined at Template:Orphanedimagenotify.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 11:54, 4 August 2011 (BST)

shady stuff

Yo, I have something in the works which may interest you. Want to know more?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:58, 4 August 2011 (BST)

Is this a rhetorical question? How could I refuse such a melodramatic proposal? ~Vsig.png 19:10, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
I'll drop you an email.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:34, 4 August 2011 (BST)

Rebellion! Uprising! Mutiny! Kill the infidels before they incite a riot! Yes I creep on Recent changes slightly :P        04:20, 5 August 2011 (BST)


I will look into it. Thank you for informing me. I hope I don't peter out of existance again by the time it starts. -- Rahrah has a signature that won't become obsolete. 04:06, 6 August 2011 (BST)

Desu Nōto

This is a memo to all interested parties: The Desu Nōto group page is just about complete. The only thing missing is the group's logo that would normally appear in the group box. But that's no reason why Desu Nōto should delay it's launch. A minor setback is what it is! A minor setback that won't interfere with any hunting business! So feel free to join in whenever you want to. Happy hunting to you, Vapor! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 05:18, 12 August 2011 (BST)


Probably wouldn't have looked as idiotic if you hadn't participated in the discussions. Nice try though. N--Karekmaps 2.0?! 00:18, 14 August 2011 (BST)

Did you read the discussion that you've refered to? Probably not or you'd know that was in reference to the use of an image of a can of spam in the header. Only other discussion I took part in regarding the word spambit was the one on my talk page above. Truthfuly, this hasn't been discussed much. Maybe its because nobody seemed to have much of a problem with it before you. If you have such a problem with the word spambit, why not put it to a vote and see what majority have to say about it? At the least, don't tell others you're going to take them to a/vb and over something you're so alone on. ~Vsig.png 02:04, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Dude, it's an admin page and the discussion about spambits was settled like 6 months ago when sexualharrison kept changing it so it's not like this is a new thing, the a/vb warning was in light of that and the fact that he knows he's not supposed to be doing it. The image thing was a shoehorn in reference to that done by akule and contains references to the section name aswell. I don't know if you're being petty or are jst ill informed but your making a fool of yourself and that was my point. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 02:15, 14 August 2011 (BST)
I'm not ill informed and I'm not being petty, though I think this argument is petty. My point is that nothing was ever "settled" and I think its likely because you tend to treat editing comments as a means of confronting others on this wiki. A lot. I know you've been called out on this before and I'm not alone in my frustration. Just lighten up a bit, Karek. The majority of your edits to the wiki shouldn't be about how someone has done something "wrong" and you should't expect that edit comments hold much weight in an actual discussion. ~Vsig.png 02:59, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
i still consider this very unsettled. there was never a discussion, just you telling me to not to do it. with threats of vb.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת03:40, 14 August 2011 (bst)
You know edit conflicts are a real bitch on the phone but, since I lost my original comment. There was discussion ages back, you know better about that specific edit and it's been reverted an ungodly number of time now by multiple other sysops. Vapor, I don't put ANY weight in edit summaries, especially as warnings. And to both of you, it's irrelevant, you don't alter admin pages contents for intenal jokes and that's basic sense so stop acting like I'm being unreasonable for proposing the next logical step in an edit summary when a user has had it made clear to them in the past by multiple sysops that something isn't ok. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:58, 14 August 2011 (BST)
No, it has been changed like three times and only reverted by you. In fact Boxy once changed it to Spimbots just to annoy you. And if discussion took place ages ago it has somehow ceased to exist because I don't see it. This isn't irrelevant. You are overreacting. You need to just let it go. ~Vsig.png 05:04, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Meh, like I said I didn't report for a reason. I disagree with everything you've said but, that it's not worth the time for a case arbitration or vandal. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 08:15, 14 August 2011 (BST)
Basically, I didn't take it to a/vb for a reason, I want him to see reason but, at this point it's more than clear that the changin the header isn't ok if for no reason other than he's had it reverted so many times and it's an admin page with sysops reverting it. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 04:04, 14 August 2011 (BST)
I don't think VB is the place to deal with this. Harrison has as much "ownership" of that page as any of the sysops, given that he's a frequent spimbot reporter, and the page's main reason for being is to provide a place for regular users to report bots. He uses the page more than most sysops, actually. I think that the header should be spelled "bot" rather than "bit" (using the fun spelling on the official page just takes the point out of it, IMO), but I figure the best way to deal with it is just to change it back whenever I'm on the page. Without this drama, they'll get sick of it ;) It's arbitration material, if anything -- boxy 06:46, 14 August 2011 (BST)
I think arbies over spambits would be equal parts hilarious and sad. I hope it doesn't come to that (or a/vb) and can be settled in some other way. Simply looking the other way or reverting it without fuss would seem to be the best solution, honestly. ~Vsig.png 07:07, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, especially since that's not an arbitable case. You don't arbitrate admin page content when it's an issue of clarification or humor simply because it's a bad idea. In this case there's clearly what it should be and what it's being changed to. To arbitrate something like that would be akin to arbitratin the A/VB noivces or recruitment guidelines(or suggestions rules because someone like 2cool might want the example links to their content). It's not procedurally sound and while this is relatively minor it's the kind of thing that would get misinterperted as precedent and intentionally abused. My response was keeping in kin with past warnings for that kind of edit to admin pages(take reporting yourself as a joke for example). If the consensus is rather we just waste time undoing it ad infinium I'm fine with that too so long as it's clear that he joke header is not the appropriate page content. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 08:23, 14 August 2011 (BST)
I think its rather clear its a joke and harmless but if you're concerned it would get misinterpereted for precedent, I have no qualms about linking to this discussion. I will archive this topic tomorrow so it can be more easily linked once you find an appropriate place to do so. ~Vsig.png 09:39, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Although I CBF making a big deal about it if people genuinely think it's worth fighting for, but I agree with Karek 100% on this regarding spambit's legitimacy on an admin page and that arbitration cannot be the place to take this. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 10:13, 14 August 2011 (BST)

Since you explicitely ask for op opinions: I don't care either way. This isn't comparable to suggestion guidelines or the A/VB intro, it is just a descriptive title, and one where both variants are just one letter apart to boot. To resolve this and to ensure that the community prefers either spelling, I recommend a brief poll on Talk:A/VB/B. That would finally give us something substantial to put that dispute to rest. And I agree that arbies would be a.) overblown and b.) not the best place to resolve questions about a high-traffic admin page. -- Spiderzed 12:04, 14 August 2011 (BST)

I'm with the other fun-hating pricks on this one.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:39, 14 August 2011 (BST)

Can you help me compose a Suggestion?

The suggestion is for a change in where eyeglasses (the same ones Zombies can start out with) can be changed when revived.

"I've run around and changed all my nasty, bloodstained clothing, all but these dirty glasses."

Right now they can only be changed in Malls. My suggestion is that they be included in Towers and Hotels/Motels as these are also places folks may have left them behind.

I think it's a great idea.

LMK, what you think.

-- Taecsmall.jpg DirtManT|FU|StäV 06:11, 20 August 2011 (BST)

Hm that's a bit of a tough one. I'll admit I'm not the best source for suggestion system questions but I'll try to help. You don't see too many clothing related suggestions and the ones you do see are usually found at Clothes/Suggestions. That page is more for the suggestion of new clothing though, not changes. I'd go ahead and put your idea up on Developing Suggestions to get feedback and help with it. The type would be "flavor", the scope is survivors and the description can be simple. Just something like "Make eyeglasses an article of clothing available inside towers and hotel/motel". ~Vsig.png 07:53, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Clothes/Suggestions is the place to go to add existing clothes to other places, as seen here. -- Spiderzed 14:54, 20 August 2011 (BST)
Ahh so it would seem. ~Vsig.png 16:23, 20 August 2011 (UTC)


and me have a very close history. Sometimes it's the best way to get a discussion going, even if it includes stupid drama. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:49, 29 August 2011 (BST)

Meh, it shoulda been an easy thing to just leave it to RevenRoss to decide but yeah a little drama always gets people thinking. It was a slow month anyway. Nice to go out with a bang (sort of) instead of a whimper. ~Vsig.png 21:59, 29 August 2011 (UTC)


You want to organise Pac-man Hunt as the second MMI while I organise Megaman Hunt as the first MMI?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:12, 3 September 2011 (BST)

Haha sure. What's my timeline? ~Vsig.png 01:04, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
The manhunt itself won't be for ages, so take as long as you want, and we can work out the dates at a later point.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:25, 3 September 2011 (BST)
No problem. I'll probably try to do it soon so I get it out of the way. ~Vsig.png 15:41, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
*Lowers the flag to half-pole and salutes* Megaman is dead. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:29, 3 September 2011 (BST)

Death Rattle Battle

Are we doing this this year? If so, I would like to bring it on behalf of the life cultists.--Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  07:52, Saturday 3 September 2011

Yeah we are I just got a bit lazy. I'm also I'm going to organize a scavenger hunt instead of the dance nonsense for the halloween page. Can't wait to see what you come up with for the death rattle battle. ~Vsig.png 15:36, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


No tequila? How dare you deny a snow girl her tequila! She would freeze you for that one, mate! ;P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 08:38, 17 September 2011 (BST)

By the way, it was only a coincidence Yuki ended up in Mester Arms. I was actually looking for a decent place to spend the night on my way to Ackland and saw the Mester Arms and the Coram Building pop up on my map. I had no idea Ocktoberfest was suppose to begin today. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 09:01, 17 September 2011 (BST)
Sometimes the stars, the moon and the earth align and you stumble across something truly epic. Glad you found us. Since yesterday was Mexican Independence day, tequilla is in order as well. Do you think you'll join us for the pub crawl? ~Vsig.png 16:29, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
I've passed the invite to OBR's current leader, Colette Hart. I expect OBR will have an answer in the next few hours or so. Maybe. Hopefully. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:05, 17 September 2011 (BST)
Sure, why not? --The Holy Empress Colette 21:39, 17 September 2011 (BST)
You heard the boss-lady, Vapor. Let's party! *blasts LMFAO's Party Rock Anthem on the boombox* --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:48, 17 September 2011 (BST)
Right on! We'll be at Mester Arms for another couple of days and then it's on to the Limbrey Arms in Havercroft. See October Bash 2/Oktoberfest for all the details. ~Vsig.png 22:01, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
OBR's "Holy Empress" needs a heal in the school next door to Mester. Yuki would get the FAKs to her, but she's currently dirt-napping in the Cemetery for AP, so Yuki won't be able to get to her for about 5-6 hours. BTW, does CORAM happen to have a forum of sorts? It would be easier for OBR to coordinate with you guys if you had a forum. Or you can coordinate with us on our forums. Doesn't matter much, really. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 04:09, 18 September 2011 (BST)
I signed up at the OBR forum today. Just waiting to be activated. CORAM doesn't have a forum. We're that cool. ~Vsig.png 04:58, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Still waiting for access. Right now I am wishing I had set up a centralized area for updates. Once I hear back from noctrnl, we'll move forward with the pub crawl but we'll likely skip over Havercroft. ~Vsig.png 18:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Yea...Ever since Mav retired, account activations have been taking just about a week longer... :/ --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:26, 18 September 2011 (BST)

Your account was activated just a few hours ago by Colette, by the way. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 05:03, 19 September 2011 (BST)

Thanks, I'll jump on here in a bit. ~Vsig.png 14:16, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

The email

404 are best contacted through the OBR forum. I have no idea about timetable. Last week we were claiming a fort in Whittenside and an hour ago we reclaimed Dury. Basically no idea. --"Workshed" 19:18, 21 September 2011 (BST)

No problem, I eventually figured it out. Thanks for getting back with me. ~Vsig.png 19:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
No problem. --"Workshed" 20:09, 21 September 2011 (BST)

I remember not...

My wiki coding skills have long since gone out the window, and will seemingly continue to elude me. Tell me, if you know, is there a way to use an image as part of a backgroud on a wiki page, and keep that picture stationary as a user scrolls up and down the page? -Poodle of DoomT*C 00:23, 23 September 2011 (BST)

There is. You might look through User:Mazu/sandbox for the code. I don't remember it off the top of my head. ~Vsig.png 01:06, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
There's something there I can use. Thanks a lot. I greatly appreciate it. -Poodle of DoomT*C 01:15, 23 September 2011 (BST)
Atleast I'm semi useful :P       18:52, 23 September 2011 (BST)

Group page locked and listed as inactive

Excuse me, I recently joined a group in the Lockettside suburb called the Lockettside Valkyries. The problem is that the group page on here is locked for some reason and also erroniously listed as inactive. Can you please help with this situation? Regards, Sage of Winds 00:57, 23 September 2011 (BST)

Given the history of vandalism to the page, it hs been protected indefinitely. If you wish to have it edited by a sysop or want to make a case for it to be unprotected, please use A/PT to make a request. ~Vsig.png 01:04, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Wow I didn't know that, there's a history of vandalism? From who? If you don't mind me asking...Sage of Winds 01:06, 23 September 2011 (BST)

Government Order.

You seem an active person on this wikia, maybe you can understand my plan best. I hope this doesn't seem too random.

You know, I want to change Malton's government system from Anarchy to something better. A cooperation and rule system of multiple groups working together, at least for a start. You know, get the leaders of different top ranking groups and such, and different types(Revivers, Rebuilders, Zed-Mowers) to talk together and plan things together. Not just the odd two clan meshing thing, but groups staying their own, but working that far fetched? Defender Of Weak 00:07, 30 September 2011 (BST)

The idea isn't far fetched nor is it even unique. What you're describing is what we call an Organizaton and the closest thing to an government-like organization in Malton is the DEM. It would take a ton of networking, planning, organization, trial and error, time, grief and stress to do properly. Don't expect to simply throw together a wiki page and have people flock to it since its such a neat idea. If you're serious about it you've got to learn how to run a successful group first and then figure out how to bring together several groups. As one organization. It isn't something for the feint of heart. Running an organization will drain your time, your patience and your sanity. Consider seriously if it is something you truly want to try or if its just a neat idea. ~Vsig.png 01:08, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
See DoW's talk page. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs

speedy deletes

I put something up for speedy deletion :) --RaddoX 02:45, 1 October 2011 (BST)

I smelt food. I ate it. I'm still hungry. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:22, 1 October 2011 (BST)


The time has come for you to Make a statement. Please proceed to arbitration and make a statement under your header. Your silence may be misinterpreted.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:01, 30 September 2011 (BST)


In case any one was wondering I'm dealing with some intense IRL stuff. The template is more an informative thing and I don't think I will be gone for 6 months (6 weeks is more likely). ~Vsig.png 23:17, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

i don't know you but i hope everything gets better -- Son of Sin← 18:12, 7 October 2011 (BST)
I do know you and I hope everything remains terrible. ;) --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:13, 7 October 2011 (BST)
Thanks. I wasn't trying to be mysterious just in a hurry. I'm dealing with asshole landlord stuff right now. It will probably get worse before it gets better but the law is on my side. ~Vsig.png 23:17, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Stab him. You'll get away with it. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 01:54, 8 October 2011 (BST)
I'd enjoy that emmensely. I think the next time he sticks his head under my kitchen sink I'll shove his face in the mold growing down there. ~Vsig.png 02:45, 8 October 2011 (UTC)


Now. There's something me and babs would like to discuss with you. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:35, 7 October 2011 (BST)

It's of major importance regarding CORAM and Lady C. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:39, 7 October 2011 (BST)
I'll try to deal with it. ~Vsig.png 00:09, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Red October 2

We have a problem. RDD is apparently all pissed we didn't invite them (which is complete crap. I invited one of them through RDD's irc channel and asked them to spread the word, but they told me to piss off. Not to mention you don't really need an invite to join in the event.). They're coming to grief the contestants. They plan on striking the contestants, then hiding within the borders outside of the playing area. Fortunately for the Malton Manhunt, however, a few BHers are offering their aid in keeping the RDD busy. But if you were to ask me, we really need to change the playing area. It's far too close to Ridleybank, which might cause a few alt issues with some of the contestants involved in that now joint CORAM/OBR/ZALP operation. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 05:56, 23 October 2011 (BST)

It's probably more likely that I picked their turf as a playing field than any other reason that they plan to grief us. I had planned to move it because of the proximity to ridleybank but irl hit me hard and time slipped away from me. If the contestants can agree on some other location this close to the event, I don't have a problem with it. I would suggest just shifting it one or two burbs west or east.maybe a bit more north. ~Vsig.png 06:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Never even heard of RDD. And CORAM hasn't heard of any "joint CORAM/OBR/ZALP operation". Sounds like it will make the whole event a lot more, uh, interesting though. If we do move then a square playing field would be better than a cross shaped one. Anyway - it would appear that RDD, whoever they are, are total fags who drink their parents' stagnant pee pee and finger each other's bottoms, and so on.     : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 10:38, 23 October 2011
Do not move away please D: The Senshis are sooo going to have fun with RDD... *snickers* --SailorMoon ^^ 10:58, 23 October 2011 (BST)
Misanthropy and Goribuss griefing me in and out of the game? Business as usual.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:14, 23 October 2011 (BST)
On a side note, if we move the competition, they will more than likely follow us to wherever we end up going.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:14, 23 October 2011 (BST)
I'd hope so :D :D :D --SailorMoon ^^ 11:18, 23 October 2011 (BST)
I have no problem with them shooting Yon. --Hey Sweden! 11:29, 23 October 2011 (BST)
I'm fine leaving it where it is, too. B0nktoberfest is wrapping up and really is far enough away that it shouldn't cause alt conflict problems. Last year MOB came through the playing field and we were able to deal. It'll be fine just a bit more challenging. ~Vsig.png 16:44, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
As someone with an alt in Ridleybank, I am also fine with leaving it. There should be plenty of space between the two. I just want to know if we get points for killing purples or will it just be for fun when I can't find any reds?--Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  Sunday, 23 October 2011
I'll take it under consideration for a few days before saying yea or nay. I would prefer that teams focus on the event and not get sidetracked by hunting jazzberries. Perhaps I'll add a point or two to the team with the most documented purple kills, that way the incentive for retaliation isn't as bad. ~Vsig.png 23:12, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

St Juan's Church. Internal RP Raines Hills. Please! --Like Moss and The Dude..... 18:15, 25 October 2011 (BST)

Sure. There's an area of on the RO2 talk page to request revives. Please use that area for revive requests after this. Thanks. ~Vsig.png 18:24, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Where? Oh so there is. Cheers reeve! --Like Moss and The Dude..... 18:50, 25 October 2011 (BST)