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Some jackoff named uberlegen deleted the Autobots group page in Pashenton. There is no contact information either for uberlegen. This guy has been PKing the Autobots since he appeared in Pashenton, and now he's destroyed our wiki page. Please fix this. Optimus Primus (talk) 04:27, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't know if I was allowed to do it,but I have undone what uberlagen has done.If he does this again, just go to your pages history and click on "undo" next to his revision summary...I expect this guy will be given a warning or banning for what he's done...--PayneTrain(FU) 05:03, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Why may I ask is he resorting to such acts of idiocy?lol--PayneTrain(FU) 05:09, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi guys. Thanks Payne for undoing the edit. I'm watching the user and have left a message explaining their blanking action isn't a good idea. If it happens again make sure to report the user to A/VB. Thanks. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 10:59, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
He didn't just blank those two pages. He also specifically erased the Autobots as a group offering revives at a particular location, removed mention of their radio frequency, and replaced the current news for a location that they had posted with the news that the suburb was now a zone for criminals. I left the last one alone, since other than being a minor NPOV violation and part of a larger pattern of activity, it isn't worth mentioning, but I rolled back the other two. Seems to me like he both knowingly posted false information to the wiki and vandalized group-owned pages in an attempt to malign his opposition.
Honestly, I was inclined to just file the A/VB case myself and slap an immediate warning on his page since this is an open-and-shut case of someone making their bad intent perfectly clear, but because you've already talked to him, I'll leave it up to Optimus to decide if he wants to pursue an A/VB case or leave things as they are. The damage has been undone and we can easily undo anything further, but this was not an innocent mistake on the part of a newbie, so I have no qualms in letting them know that such behavior will not be tolerated. Aichon 15:14, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Aichon. I missed the NT edit; the others I thought were good faith, particularly because the user is a new editor and we allow the community to generally maintain & update the radio list on suburb pages. If, post a nudge message, a new user continues to make bad faith edits, it's straight to A/VB with him. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:35, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the fixes, guys. If you think an A/VB case is warranted I would be more than happy to pursue that. Uberlegen and his alts (uberlegen1, etc) have been consistently PKing us for months now, and apparently has listed the Autobots on the Bounty Hunter lists, wherever those are, and now Pashenton is being flooded with them. This all started with the player BottleCap112, who had originally been an Autobot until he refused to abide by truces made with other legitimate groups. He was kicked out of the group and for a long time would PK the Autobots all by himself. Then suddenly uberlegen appeared sending us regards from BottleCap. We have the distinct conclusion that BottleCap is now zerging, but we can't verify it other than the fact several of the creation dates for these names are within hours of each other. Optimus Primus (talk) 02:17, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Certainly! An A/VB case officially gave him a warning; if he returns to the wiki and vandalizes again, we'll A/VB him again. The wiki A/VB and similar systems intentionally don't deal with in-game zerging, so there's not much to do about that (but if you visit NecroConnect I know they're starting to document ongoing zerg cases). Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

A/RE and crats

Crats have never undergone A/RE, as their election is regarded as enough proof that the community wants to keep them around some more. I only know that Ross underwent voluntary A/RE a few years ago while he was a crat. -- Spiderzed 11:04, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Ehh, I think it's much more fair now that A/REs are less frequent to have everyone, including crats, undergo them. But whatever, I've removed Ross; consider mine voluntary. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 13:00, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
"Never" is not entirely correct, it's happened before. A ZOMBIE ANT 12:49, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
....As you said in the very next sentence, my apologies. I'm pretty sure SA did as well in this situation. A ZOMBIE ANT 12:50, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
We are very unlikely to see any op stripped by A/RE anytime soon anyway, unless they become inactive over a long stretch of time (like Mis currently does) or suddenly go rogue Grim_s style (which I consider way out of character for anyone on the current roster). -- Spiderzed 18:44, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Wiki tables

Guess who's being crap at wiki-editting again? This guy!

Me and Stelar are working on a new EBD page, drafts can be found here (Stelar's), here (my WIKI code one) and here (my HTML code one. They all suffer from the same problem: no matter how we set the width of a cell, if you fill it with enough text, it will stretch out and ruin your entire lay-out. I've tried quite a few things, including clean builds, help pages and working HTML in stead of WIKI. Nothing seems to help.... Suggestions? PB&J 15:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Nvm, I think I got it. PB&J 15:46, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Glad you've got it. I normally just <br/> things, but that's a brute-force method where finesse would probably do better. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:31, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Old Danger Report

Just letting you know, but this danger report was two years old. Is a categorie or something missing on the page? I thought we updated all of Malton since then? PB&J 09:19, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

The prior update was to "unknown". Once a report is marked "unknown", it doesn't get updated again in sweeps — it would say the exact same thing ("Last updated November 2013"). Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:33, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Wait, I think I understand what you're saying — not that its "unknown" wasn't updated, but that nobody bothered to fill in the info. Club Colridge (alongside North Library) is actually pretty distant from the rest of Darvall Heights by free-running lanes, so if someone (e.g. me) decides to update "all" of Darvall with a survivor alt, they might leave those two buildings out. And Darvall actually hasn't been surveyed by any prior MDU assignments (it's as yet unclaimed in the ongoing Summer Suburb TLC assignment). Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:36, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
I've seen a few really old 'marked unknown' buildings (usually, "last updated in 2013") while I've been updating suburbs. I just figured they were just missed. stelar (talk) 21:03, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Template Calls

Looks like I set myself the challenge: how to make things not work in the least amount of lines possible:

Any ideas why the second switch doesn't give me the same output as the first?

PB&J 10:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Tried fiddling for a minute, honestly no idea. Maybe User:Aichon can help? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:14, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Well, the most obvious thing I saw was that the inputs aren't the same. The first switch is being given "1 1" (without the quotes), but the second switch is actually being given "1 1 " (again, without the quotes, but with the extra space), which you'll see if you toss quotation marks around the data on the last line of the page. I don't know that that would be sufficient to mess things up, but the space seems to be coming from the fact that the <noinclude> in the actual danger reports is on a separate line from the rest of the code that is actually being included. Erasing that line break causes the extra spaces to go away. At that point, you could make your inputs look like "11" instead, which should work as intended without any problems. Aichon 15:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
I’d say you’re running up against the limits of what the standard template system was designed to handle. Without Parser Functions available, there’s only so much can be done. ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 11:40, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
It's alive! It's alliiiiiive! Thank you. We will now proceed with making horrible amounts of template calls for very little use :) PB&J 16:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Special:RecentchangesLinked/East Becktown

If I call {{Special:RecentchangesLinked/East Becktown}}, I get a list of recent changes related to East Beck. If call {{Special:Recentchanges/3}}, I get the last three edits on the entire wiki. How do I get the last three edits of a specific subject? :) PB&J 12:10, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

You mean within a category? e.g. {{Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Barrville_Danger_Levels}}? Or do you mean subject as in person, in which case you can just navigate to their contributions? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:16, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it tracks the categories or searches for the words "East Becktown" in Special:RecentchangesLinked/East Becktown, but the problem I'm having is the number of outputs. With Special:Recentchanges/3, it's limited to the last 3 of the entire wiki, but I want the x number of most recent outputs for Special:RecentchangesLinked/East Becktown. PB&J 12:18, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
If you go to the RCL/East Becktown page, there's an area at the top to sort among them. Just click "Show Last (number)" of your choice. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:36, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Welcoming thingy & other questions

Hi bob thanks for the welcome, you said you had a character in grigg heights? If you still do maybe we could help each other out. Also do you know any active groups in grigg heights? Thanks in advance.

AndyFonty16 (talk) 16:19, 21 July 2016 (UTC)Thursday, July 21st,2016 P.s. I'm not sure how to do the squiggly line/timestamp so ya.

Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:01, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I think that in the grigg heights area their main base was at the Edmund general hospital but it has fallen to a couple of zombies which I am currently attacking whenever I get enough energy but as far as I could see it looked like nobody was there. P.s. I will join anyways because you are probably right. Fonty16 (talk) 21:08, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I am currently in wriford museum (my safehouse) with a couple other survivors. It is VSB and I put 2 impressionist statues in it. Do you have any suggestions as to whether I should stay there or move to somewhere else? Thanks in advance. Fonty16 (talk) 21:12, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the trouble bob but I don't know how to join Edmund general hospital let alone any group, sorry I'm still new to this stuff but I have so far tried going onto necroconnect but got confused, went onto their ad and went to Evelyn Emerys profile but couldn't get to her talk page and I also added her to my contacts list in-game. Fonty16 (talk) 21:38, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Replies to the above on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:34, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


I went in created an account and went to look at the EDU forum but couldn't get on, couldn't find a way after around half an hour of searching and it's probably because I have no idea how it works so if you could maybe give me some help with that or something else along the lines of that it would be greatly appreciated. Fonty16 (talk) 01:49, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks bob I really appreciate all your helping me getting started! Thanks so much! Fonty16 (talk) 16:24, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Certainly! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome :)

Thank you for teaching me how to do the signatures the easy way :) I struggled with the Necronet upload for a minute there today. In the end, I figured out that the different pages refresh at different rates. I am enjoying the wiki and having fun making up stories for the buildings that have no history. I will try to make them as fun as I can. Going to test out my creative writing / short story skills :) Stay awesome! --Johnny Colorado (talk) 05:44, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I'm happy to be of assistance. And I'm glad there's another person working on filling in the location pages with fun content. I particularly like what you did with The Voules Museum. Have a great day! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:37, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

The Voules Museum was my least favorite. As I put in the description, there are no searchable items but I still tell you to waste AP searching at the end of the story, lol. My personal favorite was The Hazeldine Museum, searching and being able to something from a story. The Owsley Museum was one that I wrote after a taxidermy show I once saw. The man was absolutely nutters, and well, you can pretty much get the story from the history... Someone had also left me a little nugget of history and I spun that into the last paragraph of the history. UrbanDead is fun on so many levels. Buildings that lack a story I will focus first. I am trying to link a few of them together and eventually get an overall suburb going. Thank you for your patience with me, I'm not too forum/wiki savvy but I'm slowly learning. If there is ever any way that I can help you or a certain area you want me to work on first, just let me know :) --Johnny Colorado (talk) 03:46, 15 August 2016 (UTC)


I did it again: this and this should do the exact same thing for different buildings. Why does the first one give me spaces I didn't ask for and the second one doesn't? PB&J 11:18, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Tried something but the template won't refresh (or it didn't work). Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:22, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!

I appreciate your hospitality, Bob. I have been a long time player over the years, back from a long hiatus. I only re-registered to ask if the Toolbox drop rate and/or locations have been changed since I've been away. I've spent 200-300 AP looking for toolboxes in lit factories and auto repair shops to no avail! NeilTabor (talk) 18:46, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Welcome back! I replied to your message on Talk:Useful Items#Toolboxes, but in short, I don't think they've been changed. There is a high-ish survivor population right now, so overall search rates aren't the highest I've seen. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:52, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I see--thanks for the response and sorry for the duplication. I didn't anticipate such a quick response! I guess I'll keep searchin'! Thanks, again. NeilTabor (talk) 17:24, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the Nazification of SoC's channel

Hopefully it's gone down quite a bit for you. I suspect the issue was a Nazi zerger we were dealing with in eastern Malton during a recent visit to that side of the city, since the messages seemed to stop around the time that we left there. I too found it quite annoying, and was glad to see it stop. Aichon 14:30, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't know, it brought a certain je ne sais quoi to the radio traffic :P PB&J 14:32, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I've had no radio on the SoC channel for a while, as I'm using the radio I normally use for the radio sweeps I'm doing, and my other is permanently on the EMR channel. Glad to know it's calmed down; I'll tune back in a week or so. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:34, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
The broadcasts this past week or two have actually been extraordinarily informative. Lots of people sharing intel regarding the zergers currently accumulating in Preston Arms. Aichon 19:00, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Hmm, tomorrow I may stop by an FS and pick up another radio. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:06, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Here you go

This one is endless:

There are 6,882 locations that aren't complete at this moment, because they don't meet the minimum requirements. You can't help them all, but you can help this one.
Help a poor stub.
PB&J thinks you could make a difference.

PB&J 14:01, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Ooh, and a different one every click! if I didn't have enough free time already :P Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:03, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Um. So I helped two stubs. Does that count for anything? :P stelar (talk) 14:25, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
North Lane destubbed, we're on a roll here! PB&J 15:13, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
McDermott Park destubbed, who says parks can't have an inspirational backstory? PB&J 15:35, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
The Steel Motel done. PB&J 08:19, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
The Terrill Arms is done too! stelar (talk) 08:58, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Elston Square has been destubified. PB&J 09:28, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Godfry Street destubbed. stelar (talk) 09:29, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Warehouse 6,6 is destubbled. PB&J 09:42, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Marsh Alley had a nice stub tag, so I stole it. PB&J 09:58, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
the Dibbin Building needed to be destubbed. So I did just that! stelar (talk) 10:30, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Parrott Alley only needed a tiny edit to be destubbed. So another stub bites the dust! stelar (talk) 10:35, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Borrer Towers is now a true masterpiece of destubbing! PB&J 10:48, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Club Cranfield is a stub no more. stelar (talk) 10:56, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Gatley Drive demanded... a DESTUBBERAGE! PB&J 15:20, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
the Chitty Hotel destubbed. PB&J 15:35, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Tolly Library destubbed. PB&J 13:36, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Bourdillon Library destubbed. PB&J 13:38, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
You guys know you don't have to update me on every page you destub. I check them via recent changes anyway :P Bob Moncrief EBDW! 16:55, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
I just wanted to comment on your comment, but I didn't really have anything to say. :P Aichon 18:21, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
But where's the fun in that?? :P stelar (talk) 20:29, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
What the??? There was no comment from Aichon when I posted mine! I swear! PS. I'm a girl :P stelar (talk) 07:40, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
!!! Is that? couldn't be! After all this time? Is that finally a way to select a random page from a preset group of pages?! If so, this opens up a world of possibilities... Aichon 15:41, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
What the crap. A ZOMBIE ANT 11:04, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome, Bob.

I just made an account so I could start updating the Statuses of Suburbs! Is that okay for me to go ahead and do?

Namely changing my Suburb, Chudleyton to Green - and after having spent two days travelling to Grigg Heights, with two of my Allies, to find it was closer to Green, than Orange, I'm going to do the same for that Burb. (change to Yellow)

Do I need to post proof, or anything, before I make such changes? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Edward1230 (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:56, 9 December 2016 (UTC)


Might I suggest {{TenTenMap}} instead of using my janky, old, personalized template? I made TenTenMap to generalize my personal map so that others could have the same easy-updating functionality while also being able to customize it to their personal needs. Aichon 05:07, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Oh, perfect! I didn't know TenTenMap existed, hence the trying to manipulate your personal map system. Thanks! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:59, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Yeah...aside from BB4, I don't know of TenTenMap getting much use, so it doesn't come as a surprise that you didn't know about it. It even took me quite a few minutes to find it, since I couldn't remember what I had called it. Aichon 05:51, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Help forming group

Hey sir, any suggetions or help on how to make a new group page? Id like to start my own group —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robstien (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 11:49, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Active group

Hey Bob, following your post on my talk page, can you walk me through how to resurrect my group as active and listed within suburbs ? Thanks ! --Murderess (talk) 16:03, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi! Looks like Aichon answered your question, but if you have any others let me know! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:50, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Will do, thank you! And see you on NC ;) --Murderess (talk) 21:53, 25 January 2017 (UTC)


Thank you kindly for the warm welcome! I appreciate all the work you do for the wiki. 🌙j3novac0rps🌙 13:56, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

My pleasure ^_^ Bob Moncrief EBDW! 20:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Our Cookies

Did you get the cookie login issue too? --  AHLGTG 23:19, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

I never logged out so I just got the other issue — where I couldn't save any edits. Stelar helped me troubleshoot, and Aich put me in touch with Kevan, who fixed the problem. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:31, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Oh, okay. Good to hear that you had your cookies at least. --  AHLGTG 02:51, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I logged out to see what was up after Stelar e-mailed me via the SoC boards, and then promptly found myself locked out of my account. Thankfully, Kevan was quick to respond to Bob and we were all back in action pretty quickly.
Also, I realized I don't get notified about PMs on NecroConnect, and after looking through the board preferences, I'm not actually sure that there's a way to do it at all. Wish there was, since I don't check it unless I'm prompted to, and I wouldn't mind having it as a backup means of reaching me for people who don't know about the SoC or get locked out of the wiki. Aichon 14:45, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
There's no option for email notification from PMs, but you can enable an "Allow members to email you?" setting under Email & Subscription settings. You can also get emails from mass announcements, but I think we've only done one of those since the forum was set up almost two years ago. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 16:50, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, that's the most annoying thing I've found with NecroConnect. I don't think I've ever been part of a forum ever without an option to get email notifications for PMs. Just glad we're back to normal now. Being locked out of the wiki wasn't very fun. stelar (talk) 20:54, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!

You perform a great task through your actions in Malton. I would like to personally thank you for up to date information regarding the never ending apocalypse. It's hard to get news even through radio these days, so I'm confident that im not the only one who benefits from you on this board. If you're in Grigg Heights sometime and you need a good FAKing or some bourbon, find me in Victor hospital! --McChesney--

Thanks so much! I really appreciate the kind word. I currently reside a couple suburbs away in East Becktown, but if I'm ever in the area I'll say hi! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 03:40, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


Six tildes: 03:04, 22 April 2017 (UTC)~ stelar (talk) 03:10, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Huh. Bob Moncrief EBDW! Bob Moncrief EBDW! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 03:11, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
twelve 03:11, 23 April 2017 (UTC)03:11, 23 April 2017 (UTC)~~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DanceDanceRevolution (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.
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