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This is where my old discussions on my talk page come to die peacefully. No edits on this page other than by me will be tolerated.

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Serious Matters

April 2006

Warning # 1

  • Harassment of other users will not be tolerated. If any more harassment occurs, you will be banned. --The General W! Mod 14:10, 18 April 2006 (BST)

Harassment Policy Proposal Feedback

Odd Starter

  • I will get to responding to it, probably in the next day or so. I'm already up waaaaay past my bedtime as it is, and really shouldn't be fiddling with the wiki as is... -- Odd Starter talkModW! 15:53, 23 April 2006 (BST)
  • That's fine. Whenever's convenient. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 16:58, 23 April 2006 (BST)

Mia Kristos

  • I, for one, appreciate your work on it, and it does look good. I only have a few thoughts on it:
  1. Remove the whole bit about ignoring it. Harrasment shouldn't have to be ignored, because it shouldn't be going on to begin with. Additionally, I shouldn't have to avoid whole sections of the Wiki, or take some of my time to delete things from my user space. Exception is Other people's userspaces. Like Amazing has that whole Mama Mia thing. As aggitating as that is, I'm not going to say anything about it because it's in his user space.
  2. Leave Permaban for extreme cases only, like is done with vandal banning. Some people just have lousy people skills, so they shouldn't be banned forever.
    • Perhaps if the third violation was between one and two weeks, and each further violation was the same? -Wyndal (talk)-(W!)-(SGP) 17:10, 23 April 2006 (BST)
      • It would have to scale, of course, and the more violations, the closer to the maximum would be required to be appropriate. -Wyndal (talk)-(W!)-(SGP) 17:14, 23 April 2006 (BST)
  3. I'm not sure, but I think there should be something specifically about disregarding minor cases. Like calling someone a "Goof" shouldn't be regarded as harrassment.
    • As Bob already said, the player would have to report it. If they felt it was harassment, and the moderator in charge agreed, then it would continue. But I'd like to think that the mods are sane enough to not think that calling someone a 'goof' would be harassment. Thank God for the legal definition of 'reasonable person' - they're the ones that expect electrical appliances to react badly to water, fresh coffee to be hot, and fast food to be fattening. -Wyndal (talk)-(W!)-(SGP) 17:10, 23 April 2006 (BST)

Those are my thoughts, let me know what you think. --SirensT RR 16:35, 23 April 2006 (BST)

  • Those are good points. Point 3 is already dealt with. The mod can decide that a case isn't harassment. Users are punished for maliciously reporting harassment that isn't actually harassment, but at a much slower rate than if they had had a case brought against them that was passed. Talk to Wyndallin about the specifics on that one, he understands it a lot better than I do. I'll talk with him about Points 1 & 2. Do you mind if I move this to his and my talk pages? --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 16:39, 23 April 2006 (BST)

Ron Burgundy

Right off the bat, it's a very nice policy and I'd support it as is. Since we're not at that stage yet, though, I've got some suggestions and comments and such:

  1. I like the false accusation thing! If it works, maybe users will try fixing things on their own. That is, maybe people who hate each other will communicate and in so doing realize they're actually talking to a human. It does seem like it could be abused, though, since our mods aren't exactly perfect and some more dramatic people have cried wolf too many times. Maybe you could cut down on that by requiring one mod to verify harassment and two to verify a false accusation. Better yet, two and three. The more mods, the better. I realize they're overworked, but that's not reason to thin them out, it's reason to get more mods!
  2. Don't leave ban length up to the mods. It would make things easier on the mods and the community if the laws are as specific as possible. That way, the mods can't be any more heavy handed than the wiki users who write the laws allow and people who get banned can't play victim.
  3. Limiting the accused to one comment is brilliant! Keep that at all costs! Hell, put a word max on it! Also, do the same for the accuser and do the same for the false accusation section. One question, does the limit extend to the discussion page and if not, what's the weight of further harassment there?

I hope that's useful and good luck putting the policy forward. Maybe you two will make this wiki a Classier place than it already is! --Ron Burgundy 02:59, 24 April 2006 (BST)

Thanks Ron - that suggestion about the punishment length makes a hell of a lot of sense. Thanks! --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 06:08, 24 April 2006 (BST)

Grim s

I've read it, and as a person who makes it his business to know the ins and outs of the rules, as well as finding all the loopholes, i cant say the definition of harrassment is terribly good. I would suggest adding the terms "prolonged" and "unprovoked" to it, with reasonable cutoffs, defining "uprovoked" to be: Comments made more than 2 days after last attack or unreasonable aggression in retaliation, with the extent to which is unreasonable being determined by the mod on the spot. "Prolonged" would basically mean happening over a period of time, demonstrating a reasonable history of the behaviour. --Grim s-Mod 12:24, 24 April 2006 (BST)

Odd Starter

The system seems interesting, but unfortunately, I can't support it. Honestly, we moderators have very few duties, and I'd like to keep it that way, because the more duties we have, the less duties regular users are willing to perform. I see constantly that, should a responsibility of a particular user be born by external forces, the less likely that user will work towards shouldering that responsibility. Even if it's an obvious fact that some users cannot be trusted with the responsibilities of being a user, I think it's vitally important that we continue to assume that they will - because if we assume that everyone will assume responsibility for the problem, then hopefully someone will, and it doesn't have to be the same someone every time. -- Odd Starter talkModW! 13:30, 24 April 2006 (BST)

May 2006

Response to your comments

We already went through this on the vandal banning page, where i made it completely clear that a persons vote is thier own opinion, and thus only they have the right to change it. I made my position quite clear by saying kill, then letting everyone know the vast amount of mental acrobatics involved if such a suggestion were implimented, a great deal less than anyone dealing with their own times because they are dealing with a known time difference and most likely memorised. For example i add 9 hours to every timestamp in game to reach my own time. Simple. I am still deciding if i should or should not report the offense, as you were clearly told that it wasnt on last time. --Grim s-Mod 17:53, 5 May 2006 (BST)

Oh, FUCK. I just re-read your vote... damn! Damn! Damn! Damn! I'm really sorry Grim. I honestly thought you were complimenting the suggestion. People stuff up sometimes. I do it all the time - start off not liking the suggestion, then ending up liking it but forgetting to change the vote. I just thought you did. That's ALL. Seriously. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 17:59, 5 May 2006 (BST)
Here is the deal: Promise never to change another persons vote ever again, and only leave a note on their talk page if you think they made a mistake, and i wont report you. This way we both win, i get my point across, and you get saved from official action. Deal? Please be warned that i will hold you to it. --Grim s-Mod 18:03, 5 May 2006 (BST)
Whatever it takes. DEAL. Thank you so much for being lenient. I don't deserve it for fucking up so badly, but you stll were. I'll have to come up with a way to make this up to you... --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 18:06, 5 May 2006 (BST)
Be a responsible user. Thats all i ask. --Grim s-Mod 18:10, 5 May 2006 (BST)
[1] --Ron Burgundy 23:11, 5 May 2006 (BST)
Huh? --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 04:32, 6 May 2006 (BST)
Nietzsche! He has a great deal to say about this situation.  :) --Ron Burgundy 20:23, 6 May 2006 (BST)
I kind of get what that article is saying... --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 02:32, 7 May 2006 (BST)

Vandal Banning 101

From Cwissball's talk page — "Please do not vandalise groups' pages without permission on this wiki. If you continue this behaviour, you may be banned from editing the wiki. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 12:17, 31 May 2006" — is it possible to vandalise a group page with permission? If you have their permission to vandalise a group's page, it can't be considered vandalism. (Unless the group gave permission to vandalise another group's page.)

Perhaps you can see why I consider this wording so terribly ambiguous that I want to spork my eyes out? –Xoid STFU! 12:46, 31 May 2006 (BST)

Looking at it now, it seems oddly hilarious. I'll fix it, though. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 12:49, 31 May 2006 (BST)
IIRC, you are actually supposed to Subst: that template in, like with most of the warning type templates. Directions: here. (Doesn't matter now, but just thought you should know.) –Xoid STFU! 14:10, 31 May 2006 (BST)

June 2006

A Bone to Pick

WTF? If you read what I wrote then WHY did you delete it anyway? If this is another case of you "blindly following the rules" because that wasn't a keep vote, then I'll report you for misconduct. It was more than fucking obvious that I wanted to use that image, even if the rest of the page wasn't salvagable. –Xoid STFU! 09:10, 3 June 2006 (BST)

I wasn't blindly following the rules, as you so elegantly put it. I simply didn't notice those three or four particular words, on account of the fact that I was skim reading. Even upon re-reading it it isn't more than fucking obvious that you wanted to use it. There was no "I want to use this image" statement. Just one obscure section of a sentence. Go ahead and report me if you like, but I won't apologise for what I thought was doing the right thing. I made damn sure (or so I thought) of the quality of my decision. People make mistakes all the time, Xoid. It's called "humanity". Everyone's human. I will make even more certain of my decisions in the future, but what's done is done. No use crying over spilt milk. All you can do is move on. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:29, 3 June 2006 (BST)
At first, I didn't think it was a case of deliberate action, but when I noticed your reaction to The General's comment I was no longer so sure… That comment did make it sound like you read every word and simply didn't care. –Xoid STFU! 10:35, 3 June 2006 (BST)
I can assure you, if I had actually processed the part where you said you didn't want it deleted I wouldn't have. What possible reason would I have for deleting something to piss you off? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:37, 3 June 2006 (BST)
That's what had me confused. If your reaction to The General had of been something to the effect of "Oh shit! Not again!", I wouldn't have bothered to bring it up, it's just that your reaction sent up a red flag. –Xoid STFU! 10:40, 3 June 2006 (BST)
I was pissed at The General mostly because he keeps on deleting my rollover text. I thought I had read it all. I was wrong. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:43, 3 June 2006 (BST)
You really should use your template style signature in regular usage; (so he can't do it to most of them that way) - and just copy and paste from it when signing on the suggestions page. (Or become a really fast typer…) –Xoid STFU! 10:51, 3 June 2006 (BST)
Doesn't it screw up the Suggestions page? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:53, 3 June 2006 (BST)
Which is why I sign manually there. That's also why I said "Or become a really fast typer…". Alternatively, you can just have this open in a new window and copy and paste it. –Xoid STFU! 10:59, 3 June 2006 (BST)


There was something here, but the Drama Llama ate it before I could read it. That naughty llama. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 13:37, 6 June 2006 (BST)


You're getting quite quick on judging edits as vandalism, remember that the rules say when something can be vandalism not when it is. It isn't as simple as break a rule: get a warning. It's break a rule in bad faith: get a warning. We first must assume good faith only when good faith is ruled out (mistakes, being a bit overheated in situations when it is logical to be overheated, etc.) then we give a warning. Also not conforming to civil edit standards is not direct vandalism. only when it is over a prolonged period of time and clearly used in a way to troll and be abusive it is. Even then the infraction has to be numerous and clear cut. We are called moderators because not only do we moderate the wiki and moderate between users. But also because we need to be moderate and restraint in our actions during our duties.--Vista 13:57, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Amazing IP Ban

While it is technically possibly (weird that one actually, IP bans didn't work a month ago, now they do) I don't think it's necessary nor a good idea before we can check IP addresses on the wiki. If there's some pending need we might bug Kevan about that one wiki plug-in that enables IP checking. --Brizth mod T W! 11:31, 20 June 2006 (BST)

Uh... whoops?

This edit.Xoid STFU! 11:58, 20 June 2006 (BST)

What the hell? Why does this fucking thing keep happening? Cyberbob  Talk  13:09, 20 June 2006 (BST)

Re:Amazing's user page

I think it's a lot of effort to go to to remove something that most users will never see. I'd recommend just waiting for the next edit history purge, and leaving it at that.
With that said, of course, do what you feel is appropriate. If you feel that the situation warrants this course of action, by all means take it. -- Odd Starter talkModW! 16:56, 22 June 2006 (BST)

Hey, can you help?

I'm feeling unwell at the moment and I'll be getting alot of rest so I was wondering if you would mind cycling the suggestions for a few days until I get better. It would be very helpful and it'll keep the system running smoothly as posiable. Well let me know, I'm feeling that my judgement is impaired so thats why I'm not going to do it for a while. (I voted 3 times on one suggestion!) - Jedaz 09:28, 24 June 2006 (BST)

I'll see... dunno if I'll get it right. I'm sure Xoid will be there to point out any mistakes I make. Cyberbob  Talk  09:52, 24 June 2006 (BST)
I've done June 23rd. Take a look and tell me if I fucked up. Also, for the love of god, how many times do I have to say that SctGeeDaddy did not steal your layout. Check out "his" signature, the evidence is right there. (The sig.) –Xoid STFU! 10:31, 24 June 2006 (BST)
I, however, liberally stole Cyberbob's layout and then made it better different. ;) –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 10:32, 24 June 2006 (BST)
And another reason to update the bottom. He may now, finally add me, as I'm going to steal the menu bar from his after I'm done posting this. –Xoid STFU! 10:35, 24 June 2006 (BST) Nah, fuck that. I'll steal Bob Hammero's just to spite you Cyber. :P –Xoid STFU! 10:36, 24 June 2006 (BST)
What about my swanky two-column layout? I like that. And Cyberbob, you can't claim I've stolen your entire page, since I have no Archive, Classifications, or Arbitration page. Ha! –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 18:31, 24 June 2006 (BST)
Thanks for your help Cyberbob, and thanks to Xoid as well. I should be good from here to take it back up. Thanks for doing that for me for a little while. - Jedaz 10:31, 28 June 2006 (BST)
You're welcome. I picked up a new skill too! Cyberbob  Talk  10:34, 28 June 2006 (BST)


I just removed my own withdrawn suggestion! How was that bad? It had been withdrawn for a day now!! --W3c 07:39, 26 June 2006 (BST)

What is a 25th page?? --W3c 07:42, 26 June 2006 (BST)
Xoid means the 25th of June. Suggestions get cycled, NOT deleted. Cyberbob  Talk  07:44, 26 June 2006 (BST


You vandalized a template. I am glad to know you moderate so well.--Agent White 18:15, 28 June 2006 (BST)

Actually, templates aren't owned by anyone. And I was improving it, not vandalising it. Get a life. Cyberbob  Talk  18:26, 28 June 2006 (BST)
You're changing the goal of the template from a pride at being an enemy of a group, to being a target of the group. Much different goals.--Agent White 18:44, 28 June 2006 (BST)


April 2006

Thanks from Ron Burgundy

  • Thanks for the legal analysis! I think I'm going to follow up on this humor on the suggestions page/reactionary moderation question, the ideal of a more utopian wiki in mind. I think this[2] is the place to talk about it, since "Misconduct" seems so official. Anyhow, you stay Classy and thanks again! --Ron Burgundy 19:08, 17 April 2006 (BST)
  • You're perfectly welcome Ron. I stand for the underdog! Down with overbearing mods who think they own the place! --Cyberbob240CDF 02:09, 18 April 2006 (BST)


  • I noticed your vote on the "Wanted" Suggestion where you talk about how PKers are going to vote kill as a knee jerk reaction, yet in your original vote you wrote "What's this? An anti-PK'er suggestion? Gets the big "Yes!" from me." That sounds pretty kneejerk to me. Also, as a registered Pker I actually liked this suggestion. So don't assume, and don't be such a hypocritical troll. --Mpaturet 17:02, 18 April 2006 (BST)
  • Get a life. Anyone with even the most basic social skills would have interpreted my vote as a joke (not the actual vote; the comment). --Cyberbob240CDF 17:05, 18 April 2006 (BST)
  • Hey guys! Cyberbob knows all about social skills! Small matter if everyone here hates him! Except Amazing, but then again everyone here hates Amazing too. Are you going to run for mod? Are you going to whine until you're made mod against an overwhelming kill vote? Nobody loves you in real life or the internets. Plz die kthxbai--Mpaturet 00:19, 19 April 2006 (BST)
  • OK, I love this everytime someone accusing someone else of being a troll they act like a complete jerk while doing it. Seriously don't you people realize that by acting rude and crass you are in fact provoking rude and trollish actions from people? It's just plain counterproductive in my humble opinion. That goes for you too, Cyberbob. --Prosperina 00:31 19 April 2006.
  • It doesn't matter how nice I am about labelling people trolls, I get called one anyway! --Cyberbob240CDF 08:38, 19 April 2006 (BST)
  • Since you're siding with Amazing, you have to understand your associating yourself with board drama, that means you have to be extra careful cuz shit gets blown out of proportion. If people act rude to you, you can't retaliate in the same manner with a hostile audience. As I was telling Amazing, you have to pick and choose your battles, if you go accusing people wholesale you get yourself labeled as unreasonable. Don't give them ammo to hit you with, if they want to rant and rave, let them. They'll make a big mistake soon enough and you can nail them on that. However if you single them out constantly it becomes a personal attack. --Prosperina 08:57 19 April 2006.
  • Fair enough. I'll try and keep a lid on it, but there are some things I HAVE to respond to. You should give some advice to Grim s on how to handle matters like this, Prosperina. --Cyberbob240CDF 09:02, 19 April 2006 (BST)
  • Thank you, Don't worry, I will next time he looks like he needs it. --Prosperina 23:14 19 April 2006.

Syllable question

  • In your haiku, your first line reads, "I know what I'm doing." The problem here is that if you mean doing as in present tense form of "do" then you are breaking the syllable form of a haiku (five/seven/five), as doing is two syllables. If you mean doing as in the sound effect, you are right on. If you meant the first form of doing, may I suggest you change it to something like "I know what I do" that is properly five syllables? I look forward to reading any further ouevre's you may post. -- a capsized pogo-stick

Vista's Modship Bid

  • I'm pretty sure Vista would not have put up his application for modship if he already was a mod :) (he isn't) --Brizth M T 14:52, 19 April 2006 (BST)
  • Whoops. I got Vista confused with hagnat. My bad. --Cyberbob240CDF 14:55, 19 April 2006 (BST)


  • You're a decent person, from what I can see. I don't agree with either extreme on the 'Amazing' issue - in fact, I consider both points of view to be more reactionary and inflammatory than the PK debate - but the fact that you're not as illogical or obtuse as either side says something. And for the record, I agree that Grim is a bit of an asshat. He calls it 'blunt', I call it 'poor etiquette' and 'tactless'. But regardless, keep on keeping on. -Wyndallin 01:23, 21 April 2006 (BST)


I noticed that always when you answer to someone, on talk or other pages, you use exactly the same indention as the one you are answering to. It makes it really hard to follow who says something to who. For example, on Moderation/Deletions#Template:HailXenu it's a bit unclear if you are answering to me or Mpaturet.

Oh and here is what I meant:

  • This is what I say --Brizth W! M T
  • This is your answer to me. --Cyberbob240

While a better way would be:

  • This is what I say --Brizth W! M T
    • This is your answer. --Cyberbob240

--Brizth W! M T 09:18, 21 April 2006 (BST)

Your sig

  • I don't know if you changed it any further but on the voting page it had an extra | (that seperator thingy) in it, breaking the suggestions template, so no votes whould show up after yours, It's something to be care with.--Vista W! 11:51, 21 April 2006 (BST)
  • Whoops! Thanks for the headsup Vista. --Cyberbob240CDF | Arb 11:54, 21 April 2006 (BST)
  • There's still problems with your sig on the suggestions template. I'd recommend removing the "|" seperators and replacing them with something else. — NubisPKA 07:43, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Then how come no-one else's sig is having these problems? --Cyberbob240CDF | Arb | W! 08:30, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Yeah Nubis, I don't think it's the | that are doing it, 'cause I have them to. Can you give a link? --SirensT RR 14:59, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • The "|" only messes with the Suggestions template, so since Mia never posts in Suggestions, there's no problem. – Nubis NWO 15:04, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Oh.........Why the heck are we using a template for suggestions? --SirensT RR 15:07, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • User Suggestions are posted using a template for continuity and to make it easier to read. – Nubis NWO 15:09, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • I really don't see how they make it easier to read, but I suppose I wasn't there before the templates were used.--SirensT RR 15:37, 22 April 2006 (BST)


  • I had a question for you, about your user name. Have you seen The Net by any chance? Just curious, really. --SirensT RR 04:44, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Yes, as a matter of fact I have. Why do you ask? --Cyberbob240CDF | Arb | W! 04:50, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Here I was thinking you deleted my comment, silly me! I just happened to recognize "CyberBob" frm that movie, and wondered. I liked that movie, even if it did scare gullible people witless about the internet. --SirensT RR 04:56, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Heh heh. Yes, that is where I got my name from. I enjoy semi-obscure references to things with great meaning in them, --Cyberbob240CDF | Arb | W! 05:02, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Yeah, so do I. I'm usually pretty good at spotting them. Unless, of course, there from a movie/book/etc I don't know. :P --SirensT RR 05:10, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • It's pretty hard to know something from something you don't know, isn't it? :P --Cyberbob240CDF | Arb | W! 05:16, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Yeah, it really is. Though, there was this one time I knew what something meant, and I still don't know what it's from... --SirensT RR 05:38, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • I've been through that too. It's kind of like deja vu - really annoying. --Cyberbob240CDF | Arb | W! 05:40, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • You know what else is kinda funny? Vuja de. You know, the feeling that somehow, None of this has happened before! (Obscure reference!) --SirensT RR 05:47, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Vuja de? I've never heard of that before. What is it referring to? --Cyberbob240CDF | Arb | W! 05:48, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • It's from one of George Carlin's routines. I love that guy. --SirensT RR 05:52, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • I've never heard of him, so I'll have to take your word for it on that one. --Cyberbob240CDF | Arb | W! 05:54, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Maybe I'm just old. A lot of people I meet haven't heard of him. Here: --SirensT RR 05:58, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • Looks interesting. --Cyberbob240CDF | Arb | W! 06:01, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • He's a funny guy. If you can, I highly recommend finding some of his material. --SirensT RR 06:03, 22 April 2006 (BST)
  • I'll do that. Thanks for the reference! Next time I'm out shopping I'll have a look. --Cyberbob240CDF | Arb | W! 06:04, 22 April 2006 (BST)

In other news

  • Not surprisingly, I love what you've done with your page. I noticed the bouncing kid avatar for your second character. I've got that saved on my computer somewhere too and I use it to randomly freak people out ^^ --SirensT RR 17:51, 24 April 2006 (BST)
  • Thanks. I'm contemplating adding a "shamelessly raided from Mia's page" comment somewhere :P --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 17:53, 24 April 2006 (BST)
  • That would be nice, but I wouldn't mind either way....especially since I got the idea from some of Wikipedia's pages, though I put my own spin on it. --SirensT RR 17:56, 24 April 2006 (BST)

Spartacus Template


  • Here's your bag of silver Judas. Nice job betraying Jesus--Mpaturet 01:51, 23 April 2006 (BST)
  • What? I never betrayed him. All I'm doing is taking a less rabid stance. I still don't believe he should be banned. See the lengthy discussion I had with Mia and Wyndallin on Mia's talk page. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 02:12, 23 April 2006 (BST)
  • I know and I think that's fine. This was just because he seemed to act like you had stabbed him in the back. Also he apparently think he's Jesus--Mpaturet 02:20, 23 April 2006 (BST)
  • Oh OK. I'll try to explain it to him. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 02:30, 23 April 2006 (BST)


  • I've made a page for a proposal that concerns the arbitration of Amazing's current cases here. --Prosperina 08:55 23 April 2006 (BST)

Re: Your comment

  • No, I've been busy with Amazings ridiculous Misconduct and Vandalism accusations, as well as my other duties. --Grim s-Mod 07:00, 24 April 2006 (BST)
  • That's fair enough. Whenever's most convenient for you. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 07:01, 24 April 2006 (BST)


  • The WCDZ template is intended for WCDZ members only. We'd appreciate it if you would remove it from your page. Thank you. --TheTeeHeeMonster 21:17, 25 April 2006 (BST)
  • Changed the template on your page to comply with TeeHee's request, Bob. I hope you enjoy it. *snickers* -Wyndal (talk)-(W!)-(SGP) 21:23, 25 April 2006 (BST)

The Epic Battle

  • Say what? Saromu 12:12, 28 April 2006 (BST)
  • You know exactly what I mean. See here if you've forgotten. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 12:13, 28 April 2006 (BST)
  • Dude, I didn't write it. I only published it. If you want to blame someone then blame the whole anti-Amazing community. Saromu 20:57, 28 April 2006 (BST)
  • You agreed to publish an inflammatory page that included me. I think I have the right to be a little angry, don't you? --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 03:20, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • You have every right to be angry. Just not at me. I only published it. Doesn't mean I read it all. I copied and pasted everything given to me. Saromu 03:33, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • Give me the usernames of the people who gave it to you, then. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 03:43, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • So you want me to sell out on friends because you're pissed over a joke? Did you actually think that was going to work? Saromu 03:46, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • I've got no other target unless you tell me. You're the only one I see involved in all this. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 03:47, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • So what are you going to do about it? I'm not getting in trouble for it. It was deleted. It's not vandal. Seriously, chill out. It's called a joke. Maybe people wouldn't make jokes about you if you didn't get on their case for things like this. Saromu 03:49, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • This is the first time it's happened. So that last point of yours makes no sense. Also, "jokes" like that are designed for one thing: to embarrass and insult other people. DON'T come to me with that bullshit about it being a harmless joke, because it isn't, and wasn't meant to be. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 03:52, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • Dude I barely know you. So whatever jokes are said about you I didn't believe. But you're making a terrible first impression. Now it was a harmless joke by me. I don't know you nor care. Listen carefully. It was a joke. You were barely mentioned in it. Go on with your life. Saromu 03:58, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • As I don't know you either (or care about your opinions), I don't really care what sort of impression I'm making. BUT, back to the discussion at hand. You admit it!!! It was your joke! --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 04:02, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • I admit to publishing it as a joke. I already said that...about 15 times in the past day. Now go on with your life and stop looking for drama. Saromu 04:03, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • No, you said it was your joke. I'm not looking for drama: YOU were, by posting that page. You must have known you were going to get responses. Well, mission accomplished. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 04:05, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • Yeah, publishing it was my joke. I was looking for responses. They're called laughs. And a lot of people laughed. Mission accomplished indeed. Saromu 04:06, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • You want to know who laughed? The trollers of this wiki. And that's IT. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 04:14, 29 April 2006 (BST)
  • It's a whole government conspiracy. And we didn't really land on the moon. JFK wasn't shot by Oswald. Jimmy Hoffa is buried under Giants stadium. And Elvis isn't really dead. Yes, I've heard them all. Now get on with your life. Unless you're going to die from this please don't continue. Saromu 04:16, 29 April 2006 (BST)

'bout Saromu

  • Stop worrying about it. He (Saromu) doesn't care, and you don't need to try and work with him, ever. He'll never do anything actually interesting as well, because if he doesn't have balls to take responsibility and stand up for himself, then he doesn't have the courage to actually write anything that takes more than five seconds to type. --Karlsbad 05:35, 29 April 2006 (BST)
    • OK, I'll stop. Your assessment of him is excellent, might I add. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 05:36, 29 April 2006 (BST)

Mattiator's Modship Bid

  • Hey, I hope you're not using "User Contributions" to determine what a person has done. If that guy really has been around for six months, he may have done other work that simply won't show up, hence my question. --SirensT RR 04:43, 30 April 2006 (BST)
  • No, I'm going off the only times I've seen him edit. I haven't looked at his User Contributions page at all. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 04:46, 30 April 2006 (BST)
  • Fair enough. You're probably right, as that's the vibe I'm getting, but I still perfer to ask, just in case. --SirensT RR 04:48, 30 April 2006 (BST)
  • That's fine. I'd be very interested to see what he says >:) --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 04:49, 30 April 2006 (BST)

May 2006

Mod Bid

I'm sending this message out to everyone who had spoken on my modship bid. Recently it was suggested that I wipe the slate clean and start over with a new bid. I decided against this for two main reasons: First, I don't want to risk causing any drama, and Second, I don't want to risk people on either side not being heard the second time around.

I am, however, asking anyone who has spoken to take a moment of thier time to review the case and deatermine if they need to change thier vote or, more than likely, keep it as is. Thank you. --SirensT RR 14:53, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Your user page

Just a friendly suggestion. Under the "tags" section you may want to center 'em. I reckon' it'd look neater that way. Or you could {{Stubst:}} them in, then make them the same width. –Xoid STFU! 12:29, 3 May 2006 (BST)

Hang on. They're all left-aligned, aren't they? That's what they look like to me. They're all on a straight line down their left side. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 12:36, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah, they are left aligned, which is why I suggested that you may want to center them, or stretch 'em out, since your user page seems to be going for the "neat" effect and all. Alternatively, you may want to force the archive template to go to the left, if you are going for consistency. Just my 2¢ for what it's worth. –Xoid STFU! 12:47, 3 May 2006 (BST)
I've tried centreing them: it doesn't work :'( --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 12:50, 3 May 2006 (BST)
It does, you just need to know what to do. I edited your page to demonstrate, hope you don't mind terribly. I think the <center></center> tags would've worked too, but they're deprecated and frowned upon by the W3C. I'll take a punt and say you tried using the align="alignment" attribute on the various templates. Unless you use that on the {| section, then it won't work. If you tried something else, and it didn't work, or you are using IE and it still looks like everything is left aligned, then I'd say it'd be the browser not supporting the current tags. Microsoft hasn't really updated MSIE 6.x with much more than bugfixes for some time. –Xoid STFU! 13:48, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Clarification — when I mentioned {|, I meant the one inside the actual template itself. Funnily enough… by removing the margin: 0 2em 0 2em; rule inside the CSS on a couple of templates, they suddenly centred themselves. XHTML is a fickle mistress. –Xoid STFU! 13:58, 3 May 2006 (BST)
Thanks. Messing around with that sidebar there is kinda hard :( --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 14:44, 3 May 2006 (BST)
PS: I did use the align="alignment" thing inside the actual template! Oh, I see. The margin thing was screwing it up. Gotcha! --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 08:39, 4 May 2006 (BST)

At the bottom of your user page it said that I raided the code from you. I raided it from Mia, and have done an almost complete rewrite of it, so I removed my name from that list. You may also want to look at Template:Australian, Template:CookieThief and a few others, to see how they've changed, and whether you wish to update your version. –Xoid STFU! 08:28, 9 May 2006 (BST)

You do know that the |- is unnecessary at the start or end of tables, right? By trimming those out, it may help to make your user page's code easier to read. –Xoid STFU! 11:28, 11 May 2006 (BST)

Ooooh, ooooh, I dare you to leave it there. For a whole month. If you do, I'll give you this bag of air. (Can you tell I'm on a sugar bender?) –Xoid STFU! 17:32, 15 May 2006 (BST)

I say it's time to let him stew. I'm over the semantics of some fucking n00b (note the difference with a newb) who just wants some attention and respect. He's got a whole shitload of one but none of the other. Can you guess which is which? Cyberbob  Talk  --14:27, 16 May 2006 (BST)

I think this — margin: 1em auto 1em auto; — is what people must have been trying when they first used the "margin" thing, someone screwed up and used margin: 0 2em 0 2em;, and it just spiralled out of control from there. Oh, and check out this page. It still rawks. –Xoid STFU! 13:53, 20 May 2006 (BST)

About your claim that the Sct McGee dude raided the code for your user page, just check out his signature section. He raided it from Mia. And this page also rocks. –Xoid STFU! 09:09, 25 May 2006 (BST)
Cyberbob240 is only level 27; he only has 27 skills. (It currently says he is level 29.) –Xoid STFU! 08:13, 26 May 2006 (BST)


  • I realize now that I kinda harshed your vibe you were going on with Rasher. My apologies; you could move the haiku up the stack if you wished for you both to continue on the sweet ride y'all were trippin on, brah. --Karlsbad 11:48, 1 May 2006 (BST)
  • Don't worry about it. I was kind of getting tired of the whole haiku-battle thing anyway. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 11:52, 1 May 2006 (BST)


No more pirates! -Banana¯\(o_º)/¯Bear

I'm sorry! I can't help myself! Yarr! You see? --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 10:39, 3 May 2006 (BST)


For listing Aristeaus for speedy deletion. I got sidetracked looking after a nephew. –Xoid STFU! 12:54, 5 May 2006 (BST)

That's perfectly fine. I aim to please :) BTW, check out my modship bid. It's a goodie! --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 12:56, 5 May 2006 (BST)

Modship bid

Bob it's not needed to bomb the promotions page, we still look at it, but seeing that you recently had a bid up as well, the lukewarm responce is probably because of that. Patience is a virtue a mod needs as well.--Vista W! 14:11, 5 May 2006 (BST)

Not that recently - a month. That's a fair while, isn't it? --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 14:13, 5 May 2006 (BST)
You'd be suprised. Even if Amazing stopped being impulsive and reformed, there are some people who would never trust him again, if they ever did. Earning someone's trust and admiration takes time. You are rapidly earning mine in most areas, but Vista has a good point, patience is a virtue. I wouldn't have brought that up if it wasn't for the seemingly impatient attitude you displayed on the promotions page.
It will take time to earn the trust of others, particularly those who are skeptics and pessimists. Others will judge you based on your merits, but have very high standards, Grim s, for one. Others will give you the benefit of the doubt. Between all of that, a modship bid this early after your declaration of reform seems unwise.
Same advice as I gave Mia on her talk page, only make it either two months more, or you will need to do overtime to earn people's respect and trust. Even then, time is the key factor here, people who got burned by you, or who had friends get burned by you, won't let that go immediately. –Xoid STFU! 17:34, 5 May 2006 (BST)
Surely if ASS can accept me, others can. See their talk page. I successfully got them to remove me from their Enemies list. They wouldn't have done that unless they accepted my reform, would they? --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 17:37, 5 May 2006 (BST)
Some people hold grudges longer than others, some don't hold grudges at all — people and their personalities aren't an exact science. And even one too many unhappy people can be enough to prevent modship. Believe me, whenever someone has vocal detractors, there will be lurkers too. Some of whom may not have been interested in the flamewars, but will take a keen interest in harming your chances for modship simply because being a moderator is a big deal.
When thinking hard on why I have reservations of your bid for modship, I came up with the following: "…frankly, being a moderator isn't a priveledge, it's a goddamned burden. I know from experience. So I'm bemused by the current deluge of "make me a moderator" requests. But that is besides the point really. I know damn well that someone your age can shoulder the sort of responsibility and do an excellent job of it, so age isn't age that I'm worried about. Experience? You've got decent skill with the wiki, not outstanding (precious few of the moderators seem to have outstanding skill in wikimarkup.), which is more than adequete. The only thing I can think of is that you seem over-eager, and that makes me uneasy.
Despite the inherit logic behind "you're a teenager, of course you're eager and excitable on occasions", I'll be dead honest with you: my instinct tells me that giving power to any one seemingly over-eager for a position of power is a risky proposition. Others may have the same gut instinct. –Xoid STFU! 17:56, 5 May 2006 (BST)
Over-eager? I wouldn't say that. I was given advice last bid by Vista to leave it for about a month. I have. If you think it should be longer, I can wait longer. It's as simple as that. I was acting on advice. My impatience on the Promotions page is because of people accessing and editing the Promotions page, and completely ignoring my bid. Even people who normally take an interest in such things. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 18:24, 5 May 2006 (BST)
You may make it through at the moment, based on people who have only witnessed current actions, or by the forgiving. You may not make it through by people who are skeptical, dislike on a fundamental level, or do not think you have what it takes. Given the rather short time frame between bids, and yes, 1 month is short relatively speaking, the odds of a successful bid for modship are against you.
Assuming your reform is genuine, you are moderator potential. That's the key factor here — time. With both experience and effort, you will put to rest most grievances that people have with you. The problem is that with few exceptions, the moderators have done numerous major things for the wiki.
Personally, I will not comment on your bid at the actual page for at least another two days. I need to do some research. That's why I don't say things one way or another with most of the potential moderators, unless I know from actually looking it up, I won't let rumour and heresay take place of good judgement.
For the moment, I don't think you'll get through because the odds seem to be stacked against you — many people here are the type that have either really high standards or hold grudges. All this being said, don't let it get you down. –Xoid STFU! 19:04, 5 May 2006 (BST)
And I whould want to second most if not all that xoid said. I think you certianly have potential, and in due time i will vote on your bid, I haven't decided for or against yet, xoid doubts are my own. I certianly have seen you grow in the past month, but I'm not quite sure you're there yet. It's just a bad time to try now and having a bid before that didn't went to well isn't a help. trouble is we had a recent moderator drive that had 10 people applying with quite likely 4 promotions in close to a month, people not replying to your request now is partly because of that too, partly because a lot of people are apprehensive, if they were actually (radically) opposed to you your bid whould be shot down by now like mattiator's. After ten days CPQD still has only one comment and I certainly believe he whould be just as good as you or the others still requiring vouches. Now i've explained myself better then the first time (I needed to catch a train for a dinner-date) I'll vote when my case is resolved, and I'll agree with xoid one more time. All this being said, don't let it get you down.--Vista W! 00:09, 6 May 2006 (BST)
OK. I won't. *sheds a single tear* :P --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 14:43, 6 May 2006 (BST)
PS: How bad was I? Seriously. I can take it. *braces for impact* --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 14:48, 6 May 2006 (BST)
Mostly you behaved like a fifteen-year old newbie who dived in the deep end immediatly by pissing grim off. But you tried to improve both yourself and the wiki from the start but had some trouble finding the right tone. That said, you better remove the strike out of scinfaxi's vote, Kevan does pay attention to who said what so you're not in any trouble from that. I think you're response to it is more important. Showing that you won't respond to a trol's vote whould do more for your promotion then striking it out, IMO--Vista W! 10:16, 12 May 2006 (BST)
Hmm... when you put it like that... :) --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 10:26, 12 May 2006 (BST)
You've been vouched by the best me. –Xoid STFU! 15:26, 12 May 2006 (BST)
You said you wanted a response didn't you? That post you deleted was not disrespectful. Scinfaxi 06:08, 13 May 2006 (BST)
I'd like to direct your attention here. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 06:16, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Invitation for Comments

I'm interested to see what comments you might have regarding Passive Defenses here. --Reverend Loki 23:10, 11 May 2006 (BST)

C4NT template

I tried using the blue for the border, but it looked too much like a newborn baby thing. That and you can't even see the border, though your background thing doesn't help.  :) If you want to see it with the blue border and without the green background, just click "edit" on this comment and then click "show preview."

Trident.jpg Channel 4 News Team Affiliate
This user or group entered Glorious Battle beside the Channel 4 News Team. There were horses and a man on fire and this user or group killed a guy with a trident. Afterward, we could barely lift our arms because we killed so many zombies. I don't know if you heard us counting. We killed over 1000.

I realize that the border is ugly, what with being so thick and black, so how's this one work? It's thin!

Trident.jpg Channel 4 News Team Affiliate
This user or group entered Glorious Battle beside the Channel 4 News Team. There were horses and a man on fire and this user or group killed a guy with a trident. Afterward, we could barely lift our arms because we killed so many zombies. I don't know if you heard us counting. We killed over 1000.

I'm not sure about bob, but I still prefer the earlier one. I have poor eyesight and the border wasn't as issue for me. That being said, this version is much better than the thick black border. Damn was that thing attrocious looking. –Xoid STFU! 20:36, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Hmm... maybe a slightly darker blue? I just don't like the black. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 02:32, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Thanks for the advice guys! Here's a darker blue. The thing is, there are only so many supported colors. --Ron Burgundy 04:59, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Trident.jpg Channel 4 News Team Affiliate
This user or group entered Glorious Battle beside the Channel 4 News Team. There were horses and a man on fire and this user or group killed a guy with a trident. Afterward, we could barely lift our arms because we killed so many zombies. I don't know if you heard us counting. We killed over 1000.

That looks awesome. If the border was just a bit thicker, it'd be perfect. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 05:02, 13 May 2006 (BST)

How's this? --Ron Burgundy 05:36, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Trident.jpg Channel 4 News Team Affiliate
This user or group entered Glorious Battle beside the Channel 4 News Team. There were horses and a man on fire and this user or group killed a guy with a trident. Afterward, we could barely lift our arms because we killed so many zombies. I don't know if you heard us counting. We killed over 1,000,000,000.

Perfect. Simply perfect. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 05:36, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Great! Thanks again for the advice! :D --Ron Burgundy 06:50, 13 May 2006 (BST)


Bob, grow some thicker skin man. It's a JOKE, and in case you didn't notice, I did manage to include a mostly legitament reason as to why you should NOT be a moderator. I doubt you can remain unbiased, which was the point that I made. I'm sorry if you were offended, but you'll need to be less sensitive if you're supposed to be a moderator. Scinfaxi 02:01, 13 May 2006 (BST)

I never really was that pissed off... if I was, you can be sure I would have been more vocal in my outrage. An apology for a joke that went awry would be nice, though. A simple apology... --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 02:31, 13 May 2006 (BST)
I'm sorry bob, but SERIOUSLY, that did not have to go on for that long. Scinfaxi 06:22, 13 May 2006 (BST)
I wasn't really part of that argument. I only posted something like twice. The main source was Mia, I think. Anyway, I'd like an apology, plus a rewording of the vote. If it was really intended as a joke, you should be sorrowful that it hurt others' feelings, and be totally willing to withdraw it. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 06:24, 13 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah, I withdraw it and watch how many people bitch and moan that I edited it bob. It might just win me another community service award. Scinfaxi 06:31, 13 May 2006 (BST)
They won't moan if you just strike it out and type something better instead of deleting it. And I still haven't got that apology... --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 06:32, 13 May 2006 (BST)
I've already said sorry several times bob. That's about all I'm prepared to say on the subject. I'll scratch the first part but there is no need to re-word the actual point of it. Scinfaxi 06:35, 13 May 2006 (BST)
Would you like to point out where? The only apologies I've seen are ones that go, "I'm sorry, but..." which aren't real apologies at all - just argumentative tools designed to make you look like you're doing the right thing. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 06:37, 13 May 2006 (BST)
Traditionally apologies are followed by an explaination. Would you like to bold the I'm sorry comments to make them stick out? Anyways, I struck the comment. Sorry to all those offended and hurt by my bigoted comment against the people of Australia. Scinfaxi 06:41, 13 May 2006 (BST)
Thank you. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 06:42, 13 May 2006 (BST)


I saw your comment on the M-ZAP talk page and would like to show you this little template {{M-ZAP}}--Mpaturet 04:35, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Sorry, had to poke my nose in. What template? Template:M-ZAP --SirensT RR 04:59, 13 May 2006 (BST)
This one:
Sign zergrush.jpg KEKEKEKEKEKEKEl
This User or Group supports M-ZAP.
--Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 05:00, 13 May 2006 (BST)
Ah. Remember MP, Wiki links are case sensitive beyond the first letter. *nodnod* --SirensT RR 05:04, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Deletion que

You blanked a whole lot of the que when you placed your request there. I'd restore it for you, but I have to go.--Vista W! 10:50, 13 May 2006 (BST)

From Dog Deever

Thanks for you r message of support Cyberbob. Who does that guy think he is, talking trash to people like that. He said I had no content on my page (Criteria 1), but i had a picture of my UD character and a little descriptor, all attached to my groups page by link. I thought I was contributing to the game, and didn't even know i'd done something wrong. I don't know an awful lot about computers but i wanted to have a go. Best thing to do is ignore him, he's a fanny (British meaning, not US). His 'angry young man' image will disappear with his first sexual encounter. Cheers! -Dog Deever 11:57, 13 May 2006 (BST)

That's fine. I've had an argument with him on this exact problem. He needs to learn that other people's user pages are off-limits without permission. PS: I'm Australian, so I know the meanings of things :) --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 12:00, 13 May 2006 (BST)
(At Dog Deever) Template:Crit9warning - Created by Odd Starter purely for usage in these sorts of cases. His original stated aim was to create something that sounded authorative and was neutral in tone. You want to complain about it's wording, you can complain to him, instead of bitching to me about it. All I added to it, was a preface as to what the message was about, links to the pages, and a pair of links to two of the more important policies of the wiki.
I know they're off limits, I just don't care. Check the concept of natural law, and compare it's basic principles (Roughly: "Some things just are, regardless of what official rules exist." It's the primary reasoning behind the concept of human rights.) to my reasoning for alterations: "I'm fixing something that is a stuff up. If it ain't hurting them, their reputation, their formatting, or anything else, why are they complaining? Purely because they want to raise a fuss." –Xoid STFU! 12:47, 13 May 2006 (BST)
I have nothing to say to such a... I can't even find a word that could describe that comment. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 12:49, 13 May 2006 (BST)
I can. 'Fuckstain'. 'Arsegike.' --Dog Deever 13:19, 13 May 2006 (BST)
"Arsegike"? — That's the problem with all the common swear words; use 'em too frequently and they lose their impact, and you look unoriginal. The problem with inventing new ones is that they rarely have the desired impact. –Xoid STFU! 13:55, 13 May 2006 (BST)
Hey, Cyberbob — what happened with this edit? Was that because you were uncareful? If not you might have one of those browsers that MediaWiki is talking about when it gives you the warning: (to paraphrase) "This page is whatever kb long, some broswers have difficulty, yada, yada.". It could also just be a bug in the software, it's acted weirdly quite often as of late. –Xoid STFU! 13:55, 13 May 2006 (BST)
Hmm. It has happened to me before... but I don't think that's why. When I refresh a few times it works. It never used to do it - it's only started lately. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 13:58, 13 May 2006 (BST)
Very strange then. Admittedly, as software gets older, bitrot eventually occurs. It may just be one of those intermittant bugs, y'know, the sort that disappear the moment you actually start looking for 'em. I hate that kind. Anyway, as long as there are no further comments from either of you, I'll be off being an arsehole somewhere else. –Xoid STFU! 14:06, 13 May 2006 (BST)


You are cordially invited to the channel #heaven, on the IRC server, to talk with Mia, Lucero, Amazing and others. Please be there.

P.S. Nice centaur template. i wonder who made that? <_< >_>--Hypnotoad U! 03:33, 14 May 2006 (BST)

Are you sure it's still there? I keep getting an error message when I try and access it... --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 05:40, 14 May 2006 (BST)
Yes but it's shit now. Mia's drunk and the channel is dead--Hypnotoad U! 05:41, 14 May 2006 (BST)


Did you change your group affiliation from Project Welcome to Project Unwelcome and not change your sig? Because your comment to Mattidor wasn't cool. --Karlsbad 22:27, 14 May 2006 (BST)

No, but I'm just a little annoyed at him right now. I won't be able to reply to your next comment straight away - I've gotta go to school. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 22:30, 14 May 2006 (BST)
Ha ha! My insidious plot nears it's fruition. Rise my young apprentice… um… nevermind. –Xoid STFU! 12:38, 16 May 2006 (BST)
I'm not really serious about it; it's kind of a warning to n00bs who persist in silliness: I'll be watching. Waiting. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - U! 12:40, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Play Dead Vote

Thanks for your comments. The only thing I have to say about the "higher cost of dying" is that would amount to giving yourself a head shot - you may as well let someone else kill you, then stand up for 1AP. Really the suggestion is to fuel paranoia amongst surivors, forcing them to use their AP a little more wisely, rather than create a whole in game mechanic.

Also - Newbies - what about them? let em figure it out! --Don D Crummitt 15:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)

No. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 15:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)

It's Gone Haywire

Hey Bob, in case you haven't noticed, you've lost some stuff. It's all gone haywire. You know the drill, dig through your history, yada, yada, curse mediawiki, fix, save. If you want to. –Xoid STFU! 16:28, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Yeah, I know. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 16:30, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Attack of the 500ft n00b

Saw the comment on his actual talk page. He wasn't pissing me off per se, because he wasn't specifically affecting me. Irritating me by being an idiot that doesn't deserve to reproduce? Sure.

But telling n00bs off is useless. Even with the subtlety of a sledgehammer, they never learn. Check Rip purr's archive, I tried explaining about 4 times about the recruitment page before I simply gave up. –Xoid STFU! 17:35, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Ha ha. Very funny. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cyberbob240 (talkcontribs) .
And the heading was based off "Attack of the 500ft Jesus" (Uncyclopedia. Can you tell I use that dump fountain of all knowledge as my primary source of information?) –Xoid STFU! 04:55, 16 May 2006 (BST)
Heh. In an act of blatant n00bery, you voted twice on the deletions page, and have yet to correct it. Dev/null. Additionally, you may want to get this shit off the 'net by voting for it's deletion. –Xoid STFU! 08:26, 17 May 2006 (BST)
Did I? Oh well. I'll fix it after writing this. I've already voted on the pic. --Cyberbob240CDF - U! 08:32, 17 May 2006 (BST)

Mattiator – "Slowly improving"? WTF was I thinking. Was I thinking? He ain't improving, he just makes dumb suggestions and dumber suggestions. –Xoid STFU! 12:03, 19 May 2006 (BST)

I told you... I'm very good at judging people, Xoid. --Cyberbob240CDF - U! 12:39, 19 May 2006 (BST)

What's up with your sig?

Why the {{{1}}}? The only reason I've got one is due to my being too lazy to hunt down pages that'll get fucked up if I remove it. –Xoid STFU! 07:32, 16 May 2006 (BST)

I like gimmicks, no matter how useless they are :P --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - W! 08:21, 16 May 2006 (BST)

You've got two <sup> in your sig. –Xoid STFU! 12:46, 16 May 2006 (BST)

It was just one of the regular signatures, not your template version. –Xoid STFU! 13:04, 16 May 2006 (BST)

I think

You'll find that page is for gathering "evidence" of a sort. All the comments are there to allow people to weight the argument for or against you becoming a moderator. I have provided info that allows people to do that. I would have dropped this ages ago if you hadn't left that last, nasty, uncalled for message on my talk page. Fuck this for a game of soldiers, I won't comment on your mod bid again. Don D Crummitt 16:04, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Go away. Now. I'm not in the mood for your ridiculous drama. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - U! 16:53, 16 May 2006 (BST)
I thought you were ignorning me? Look, seriously - peace offering. I don't want to be your friend, but this shit is a bit ridiculous, although, admittedly, fun. I don't want to ruin your mod bid, but I do have an (overwrought) sense of justice. I don't think you should be a mod, but that's my opinion. At the same time, let's end this here. You can make the last comment if you so wish. Don D Crummitt 17:00, 16 May 2006 (BST)
He told you to f*cking go away! What part of that did you miss? Even the most controversial users have respected such a wish! Buzz off! --SirensT RR 17:53, 16 May 2006 (BST)
Thank you Mia. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - U! 22:27, 16 May 2006 (BST)

In Game

You are tasty. Num Nums! --Karlsbad 21:50, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Bastard :D --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - U! 22:26, 16 May 2006 (BST)


You'll have to get Undeadinator's opinion but i'm cool with it. You're worthy--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 03:17, 17 May 2006 (BST)

Will do. --Cyberbob240CDF - Arb - U! 08:14, 17 May 2006 (BST)
Verily, it has been permitted. Go forth and be prosperous, but remember: WTF CENTAURS is not a mere toy for mortal whim. It is as weapon, eternal and all-consuming, and if its wielder be caught unaware by its power he too shall victim to its avarice.
In other words, don't over-use it until the gag is dead, you big silly. Enjoy. --Undeadinator 21:00, 17 May 2006 (BST)
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I will treasure this gift always. --Cyberbob240CDF - U! 22:30, 17 May 2006 (BST)

my vote, your modship bid

Simple, Conndraka struck a nerve with his comments about different mods, I've been weighting people to all three at the same time, but the Behavioral aspect being dominant. You're a good kid, hardworking and willing to learn. You'll be a good functional and opperational Mod. a better one then me at those areas. We need more mods like that. And I'll simply kick you from banning vandals if you start to bleep it up there. (kidding, well... mostly ;) You do need to mellow more in that part) But as long as you keep in mind what your strenghts and weaknesses are. I have enough faith in you that you'll be an asset. --Vista W! 21:12, 17 May 2006 (BST)

Cool. Don't worry, I'll keep it under control. --Cyberbob240CDF - U! 22:30, 17 May 2006 (BST)
Cool. by the way mr Rottweilerpuppy, nice classification list. Wouldn't be my classifications per se, but I can see where they come from. Fun thing to have made. --Vista W! 22:34, 17 May 2006 (BST)
Rottweiler puppy!? Hell no! :D --Cyberbob240CDF - U! 22:36, 17 May 2006 (BST)
Fits you better then jerk, though. --Vista W! 22:45, 17 May 2006 (BST)
I'm afraid I've been guilty of Jerkhood in the past, on other forums... :'( --Cyberbob240CDF - U! - WTF 08:17, 18 May 2006 (BST)
Well, you may be a jerk, but now that Vista pointed it out, it seems to make sense that you're a rottweiler puppy as well. You ain't always the one on top, you ain't the best, but in a flamewar you can dish it out. And as your experience with flaming has grown, you've gotten sharper. Yup, you're a rottweiler puppy. –Xoid STFU! 12:31, 18 May 2006 (BST)
He'll give grim a run for his money in a few months… --Vista W! 12:47, 18 May 2006 (BST)
No I won't... I know when I feel like going too far and can control myself. So, you guys think I'm a highly evolved Rottweiler Puppy? I'll think about it. --Cyberbob240CDF - U! 13:23, 18 May 2006 (BST)
I'd say more about mid-way there. But it's hard to judge these things. –Xoid STFU! 13:53, 18 May 2006 (BST)

Take a looksee!

At the Template_talk:Delete, tell me what you think. –Xoid STFU! 15:25, 19 May 2006 (BST)

Dammit that's hilarious!!! :D --Cyberbob240CDF - U! 15:53, 19 May 2006 (BST)
Uncyclopedia. Did I even need to tell you? Instead of a speedy deletions template, they've got just got the page. Things that aren't immediately verifiable as "insta-delete" worthy get tagged NRV and have 7 days to start improving or they die. The system works quite well in that regard, high turn over rate, without frivulous bullshit as well. But their deletions is another matter. Low voter turnout. –Xoid STFU! 16:02, 19 May 2006 (BST)


Hmm...Looks to me like Codename C made {{lolcentaurs}} , not undeadinator--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 18:01, 20 May 2006 (BST)

*smacks head in disgust* Whoops! Sorry for (kind of) stealing the credit... --Cyberbob240CDF - U! 01:12, 21 May 2006 (BST)

2021 Edits, not including this one

:-D –Xoid STFU! 14:10, 21 May 2006 (BST)

Wait. You, or me? --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 14:11, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Me. I'll count yours too, if you want. –Xoid STFU! 14:22, 21 May 2006 (BST)
I believe I'm in the high 1000 range. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 14:26, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Guess again. 1903. More if you had any edits before the purge. –Xoid STFU! 14:31, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Oh. That's kind of what I meant. About the time of the purge, I had... oh, 500 or so. I wasn't very active back then. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 14:36, 21 May 2006 (BST)
Heh, I'm hyperactive. I'm rapidly clawing my way to the top. Whether or not that's a good thing, is another question. –Xoid STFU! 14:49, 21 May 2006 (BST)
If you deserve it, I see no reason why you shouldn't. Claw away, my good man! Claw away! --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 07:20, 22 May 2006 (BST)

I'm gay?

Well, to be fair, Bob, I have given more than my fair share of reach-arounds for pocket change. I wouldn't exactly call myself gay, just extremely mercenary, if you know what I mean. --Undeadinator 03:28, 23 May 2006 (BST)

I don't think you're gay... poor choice of words in the heading, I guess. It was meant to be a reference to that guy's vote. --GreedoCDF - WTF - U! 03:30, 23 May 2006 (BST)
I know, you bum. >:( Undeadinator 21:17, 23 May 2006 (BST)
OK, now I'm totally confused... --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 22:28, 23 May 2006 (BST)
If you haven't figured it out; Undeadinator was simply saying he prostitutes himself out to either gender, 'cause he has no standards. Not suprising really, considering Mpaturet's "photographs" of Undeadinator show 'im on the recieving end of a bull Elephant. –Xoid STFU! 13:01, 26 May 2006 (BST)
Yes, I've seen those photos. For shame, Undeadinator. For shame. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 13:08, 26 May 2006 (BST)


Well. Yea. Stick to one, and only one. Do not change nicks as you change your underwear. This can be really confusing sometimes. --hagnat mod 03:43, 23 May 2006 (BST)

Hey! I'll use whatever name I like!</agression> OK, I'll stick with...A Bothan Spy. Saromu's annoyed at me for stealing Greedo. --GreedoCDF - WTF - U! 03:45, 23 May 2006 (BST)

Re: I demand justice!

I'm not sure exactly what you are so worried about. It's pretty damn clear that Mattiator is simply having a hissy fit. I can't (and won't) stop him from doing stuff on his User page, and as for his Most Wanted page... It's going to be deleted sooner or later, I wouldn't bother worrying about it.

I'd tell him to stop, but prior experience has taught me that that's not actually going to do anything. If anything it's likely to goad him further. Just ignore him. -- Odd Starter talkModW! 05:55, 24 May 2006 (BST)

OK. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 05:56, 24 May 2006 (BST)

343's talk page

May I suggest that this is not the best way to earn the respect of the community.--The General W! Mod 18:17, 24 May 2006 (BST)

You're right. You're absolutely right. I don't normally do silly things like that... It's weird. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 22:21, 24 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah and if you become a moderator it might be wise to stop the WTFcentaurs, You'll have to enforce the agreements/rules of the suggestions page at one point and people will react a bit off when you're not to strict with them yourself..--Vista W! 23:29, 24 May 2006 (BST)
It's a deal. I'll only say it in the actual comment, not the vote itself. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 02:31, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Stupidity template

Argh. Why, why, why are there so many of them? I present: Template:Stupidity. --Bob Hammero W!U! 08:11, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Way ahead of you - it's already on my page. Good job! --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 08:12, 25 May 2006 (BST)
Thanks, but holy crap! I literally just created that. (P.S.: Can you guess what prompted me to make this one?) --Bob Hammero W!U! 08:16, 25 May 2006 (BST)
I really have no idea... :P --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 08:18, 25 May 2006 (BST)


Also, as long as I am here (from reading) I wanna know what the deal is with your classification of me. Troller I could kinda see what with my thing with Amazing, though I don't think I ever actively baited him, but Xenophobe? What the hell man, what the hell. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 09:14, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Also, I think you need something to reflect how surreal many of my comments have become. I am almost thinking I should stop reading Jeffrey Rowland and start sleeping. It is crazy, I know. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 09:16, 25 May 2006 (BST)
I'll have a think about it. I'm sure I can find a suitable category for you... --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 09:19, 25 May 2006 (BST)
"Bong". Hee hee. In my defense, I should note that I'm actually significantly more normal when I haven't spent an entire semester experimenting with the outer limits of sleep deprivation. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 11:34, 26 May 2006 (BST)
I understand perfectly. I've just finished exams and I tell you, I feel pretty stoned. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 11:42, 26 May 2006 (BST)
Ugh. Yeah, my finals are coming up right at the end of this month/start of the next, and I fully expect to, for all intents and purposes, join the living dead in real life. I'm basically just hoping that I can keep myself from actually mrhing at people as I shamble across campus. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 12:14, 26 May 2006 (BST)
You mean I'm not the only insomniac on the wiki? –Xoid STFU! 12:33, 26 May 2006 (BST)
Well, I'm not so much "insomniac" as "really fucking stupid". If I'd just get the damn work done ahead of time, I'd still be a night owl, but at least I'd get some sleep. Then again, where's the fun in that? --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 20:46, 26 May 2006 (BST)
Also, I wanna note that I don't mean stupid as in lacking in mental capacity (I am actually super smart okay), just in terms of planning ahead. Not because I actually think you went OMFG DURMBASS when I said that, just 'cause I'm insecure. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to my blankie. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 07:30, 28 May 2006 (BST)
Well, I'm not technically insomniac, but I guess you could call me a nightowl. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 12:50, 26 May 2006 (BST)

Since you're takin' tests...

A couple of things I thought you might find interesting:

And I'm damn proud of this score.Xoid STFU! 12:38, 25 May 2006 (BST)

I've done the first survival test, but not the second. I'll do them both now. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 12:41, 25 May 2006 (BST)
UPDATE - I scored 79% on the first one, and 87% on the second. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 12:52, 25 May 2006 (BST)
Holy crap, man. I couldn't match that third score even when I was trying to game the system. How'd you do it? --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 20:48, 26 May 2006 (BST)
You mean the tasteless joke one? Let's just say that it's true; I am one sick fuck. I find tasteless jokes absolutely hilarious. –Xoid STFU! 02:45, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah, that's the one. I think I have to hand it to you. I really do. You are one sick fuck, my friend. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 04:38, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Kevan

Not a clue, sorry. He seems to have a general response time in the range of a couple of days though, so you should probably wait at least that long before prodding him. -- Odd Starter talkModW! 13:14, 25 May 2006 (BST)

OK. I don't think I'll be prodding him anytime soon though; I learnt that lesson near the start of my bid with other people... --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 22:30, 25 May 2006 (BST)

I want to be like Chuck Norris!

Greetings Cyberbob,.. Thanks for making the Template out of my original Coded Template, more people are sporting it now. That's good.--Vykos 01:33, 27 May 2006 (BST)

You're welcome. It made me laugh so much, I thought it deserved a proper place. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 01:37, 27 May 2006 (BST)

You know they Call me BB, but you don't know me

No Bob, I really do think Amazing was in the wrong on this case, I make the mistake of trying to argue a point with him here, I do agree that it got pretty circular and off topic as I mentioned with the phrase, "ZOMG I just realized we are so off topic," I even went back and deleted a long retort I'd written when I realized that it would get us nowhere, but whatever, say what you want about me, it's all good. You be hatin' an I see why, cause you dont know me. (I hope you get the joke of me using these T.I. lyrics) <3 -Banana Bear

I don't care who's in the wrong. The drama needs to end. I don't hate you - I'm just extremely frustrated with the arguments you guys get into (would I be friends with Mpaturet, the Bobs & Undeadinator if I did?). --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 02:22, 27 May 2006 (BST)
I know. I see where your coming from. I just that its good to recognize the difference between disagreeing with Dr. Zingberg's position on things and just disagreeing with Dr. Zingberg as a person. <3 -Banana Bear 02:28, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Check this one out

You've gotta love it: Template:BobWorship. --Bob Hammero TW!U! 06:17, 27 May 2006 (BST)

I like, I like. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 10:27, 27 May 2006 (BST)
It's versatile enough that any Bob can proudly display it, and any worshipper of a Bob can too. And come on, who wouldn't want to worship? ;-) --Bob Hammero TW!U! 10:52, 27 May 2006 (BST)
I can't imagine. It would take a truly twisted mind to object to Bobbish worship. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 11:02, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Lorena Bobbitt. –Xoid STFU! 15:42, 27 May 2006 (BST)
No comment, Greedo Mr. Spy? –Xoid STFU! 17:32, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Eh? Was I meant to have one? *confused* --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 17:34, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Just so you don't get in trouble...

Do not change your sig to "A bothan Spy" because there is actually a user by the name. Proof: User:A Bothan Spy --Mattiator 16:25, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Frankly Mattiator, I wouldn't have put it past you to make that account purely to spite Cyberbob. –Xoid STFU! 16:37, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Same here. Until I am told by a Moderator who has fully checked out the validity of "A Bothan Spy", I will be remaining as is. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 16:48, 27 May 2006 (BST)
And there you have it. Seeing it's edit history, I doubt there will be much confusion. Bob can continue using it as long as it's doesn't cause troubles because he used it before the name was claimed. As soon as the A Bothan Spy account begins to cause troubles we'll look into a solution. And of course if the account is purely made to spite bob, and start causing troubles that whould be vandalism and impersonation. not the other way around.--Vista 16:50, 27 May 2006 (BST)
What if Mattiator starts using his A Bothan Spy account to start protesting in loud outrage? Is there any way to verify the IP addresses of Mattiator and A Bothan Spy? --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 16:52, 27 May 2006 (BST)
It is an actual account, but unless it actually starts contributing then I'd say you are in the clear. Mattiator: if you weren't such a cunt, people wouldn't have such a low opinion of you, and this ruse might've actually worked. –Xoid STFU! 16:54, 27 May 2006 (BST)
I know it's an actual account... just an alt of Mattiator's. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 16:55, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Mattiator only created this account to trouble bob. As for me, i would warn mattiator for inpersonation, ban 'a bothan spy' account and redirect that user page to bob's user page. --hagnat mod 17:02, 27 May 2006 (BST)

There is no way to verify an IP adress at the moment, something that is dearly missed. But considering the timing the edit history of the account and the way mattiator reported it the "A Bothan Spy" account there is little doubt that it's mattiator. And the account will be treated as an alternative account of him. If it turns out to be a genuine user, he will be politely asked to start up a new account with a name not currently in use. Either way, you're in the clear with this.--Vista 17:03, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Should I go and make a vandalism report? --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 17:04, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Go for it! --hagnat mod 17:16, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Lets get not to carried away with wanting to ban an idiot. the a bothan spy account has done nothing that would put Cyberbob in a bad light. I'd wait intill it does. In the mean time I suggest putting up a notice and redirect to Cyberbob's account.--Vista 17:30, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Oops... already reported. However, Mattiator's recent spasm of shitty suggestions (see the Suggestions page and you'll instantly know what I'm talking about) lends a certain degree of urgency to proceedings. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 17:30, 27 May 2006 (BST)
I'll leave the judgement to hagnat for precisely that reason. I just thought we could wait a while untill we had more wrongdoing as the outcome whould've been either the same or it would've fizzeled without problems. On the other hand Mattiator has skirted vandalism and the ban hammer for long enough now so I don't care much either way.--Vista 17:36, 27 May 2006 (BST)
If everyone is in agreement that it is an obvious case of impersonation, then doesn't that make the third strike against Mattiator? –Xoid STFU! 17:08, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Cyberbob - please use the right format for the right job. Image:Mattiator Ban.png to replace your old one. Have a good day. (Do you ever read the newer shit I wrote under "Your user page"?) –Xoid STFU! 17:59, 27 May 2006 (BST)

What's wrong with a jpg? And to be honest, not really :P --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 18:00, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Notice how the PNG is clearer, less distortion? That's because of the way that jpegs are compressed — It's a heavily lossy alogrithm optimised for shitloads™ of colours. A photo of your wang something should be in JPG format. The wiki page having barely any difference in colours was better suited to be saved as a PNG. –Xoid STFU! 18:07, 27 May 2006 (BST)
To be honest Bob as a soon to moderator it's not nice to gloat publically when somebody get banned... (we do it privatly, and use insane laughter while wringing our hands a lot)--Vista 18:15, 27 May 2006 (BST)
I'm not gloating; merely exhibiting the fineness of our moderator force. I'll see if I can soften up the heading a bit, though. Make it a bit more "politically correct" (not the right term, I know, but you know what I mean) --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 18:20, 27 May 2006 (BST)
You could always make the heading, "For Great Justice!". –Xoid STFU! 18:54, 27 May 2006 (BST)
What does the reference to Zero Wing mean? --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 18:56, 27 May 2006 (BST)
GAH! You don't know your Zero Wing? OMFG, you poor, poor boy. "All your base are belong to us", "Somebody set us up the bomb", "For Great Justice!" and many, many other catchphrases come from that game's disgraceful attempt to translate it's intro into English. –Xoid STFU! 19:16, 27 May 2006 (BST)
I know about "All your base are belong to us" and "Somebody set us up the bomb" but not "For Great Justice!". --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 03:42, 28 May 2006 (BST)

[3] Hehe. –Xoid STFU! 03:56, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Excuse me WTF R U {Not U Bob} Doing?

Do you really need to comment on every rejected suggestion?--Admiral Ackbar U! WTF 02:34, 27 May 2006 (BST)

I think it's important that people see not just that a suggestion is bad, but also why it was bad. Otherwise, they'll suggest something different but with the same flaws.--Toejam 17:53, 27 May 2006 (BST)

As above. No-one's going to read them. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 02:36, 27 May 2006 (BST)
I don't know about that. Peer rejected is linked to from the most popular page on the wiki. --Toejam 18:08, 27 May 2006 (BST)
it's better to find which place the page itself is though. Peer Rejected Suggestions (10,872 views) place number 100. Doubt that what you're doing will hurt though. Although I doubt even more that it'll help.--Vista 21:03, 27 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah, you're probably right.--Toejam 07:09, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Mattiator Banned

I like the image you uploaded. I got a better one. I'm going to upload it. Think we should turn it into a template? Sonny Corleone WTF 20:01, 27 May 2006 (BST)

MattiatorBanned.PNG MGB Day
On the 27th of May, this User celebrates MGB Day - the day Mattiator Got Banned.
Awesome. Simply awesome. Do you mind if I have a fiddle with it to make it even sexier? --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 03:43, 28 May 2006 (BST)
Be my guest. Sonny Corleone WTF 12:34, 28 May 2006 (BST)

New guide (possibly)

I've been working on an editing guide (User:BobHammero/Editor's Toolbox) that I hope can be added to the other wiki documentation if people find it useful. I thought you might be interested in this, so if you are, I'd appreciate it if you could take a look at that page, let me know what you think, and make any changes that you think should be made. If you know of anyone else that you think would have some feedback for me, please feel free to pass this on to them too. Thanks. --Bob Hammero TW!U! 06:40, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Looks awesome. I can't think of anything to add. Xoid would be better at commenting on this; he's the wiki nerd :P --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 07:34, 28 May 2006 (BST)
Thanks. If you think of something to change, feel free. --Bob Hammero TW!U! 07:38, 28 May 2006 (BST)

In game

Ah well, I screwed the image, but it gave me imense satisfaction PKing you. Goodbye, Cyberbob240. Don D Crummitt 11:27, 28 May 2006 (BST)

You make it sound as if this is a long conflict between mortal enemies. Not true. I consider you to be less than the ant I stood on this morning, while I was out walking my dog. --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 11:34, 28 May 2006 (BST)


are in order, Mr. Moderator. Now we can get in on the adbot banhammering. That is gonna be so satisfying. I hate adbots. –Xoid STFU! 12:45, 28 May 2006 (BST)

congrats, welcome to the club--Vista 12:54, 28 May 2006 (BST)
Yay! --A Bothan SpyCDF - WTF - U! 13:05, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Congrats, my fellow moderator! --Brizth mod T W! 13:10, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Congrats Bob...Conndrakamod T W! 13:32, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Thanks! --A Bothan SpyMod WTF U! 13:33, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Congratulations on the promotion, and welcome to the Moderation team. Please make sure to go through Moderation/Guidelines, so you know the general guidelines, and make sure to re-read instructions on each of the Moderation pages, so you know the specifics of each. -- Odd Starter talkModW! 15:18, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Congrats, welcome to the Moderation team.--The General W! Mod 10:24, 29 May 2006 (BST)


Other page. You can safely click it. Only one-click sysop power I can think of is image revision delete. --Brizth mod T W! 13:41, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Phew! I can quench my curiosity! --A Bothan SpyMod WTF U! 13:42, 28 May 2006 (BST)


You try typing with one hand, then, punk. ;-p –Xoid STFU! 09:07, 29 May 2006 (BST)

*types with one hand* Maybe I will, Xoid. Maybe I will. :P --A Bothan SpyMod WTF U! 09:26, 29 May 2006 (BST)

User:Black Button Brigade

Why did you put that under Served Speedy Deletions? –Xoid STFU! 11:19, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Eh? Oh. Minor fuckup. I'll fix it now. --A Bothan SpyMod WTF U! 11:19, 29 May 2006 (BST)
And annihilated. Go team! Go team! –Xoid STFU! 11:26, 29 May 2006 (BST)
Whoo! However, I'm still yet to actually exercise any modship powers... next time you rustle up a Speedy Deletion request, can you tell me? --A Bothan SpyMod WTF U! 11:27, 29 May 2006 (BST)
Heh. Was waiting for that. Coming right up. Remember to be a good boy and blindly delete whatever I tell you, a'ight? (I so deserve to get punched for that.) –Xoid STFU! 11:44, 29 May 2006 (BST)
Well, seeing as...
Batman-Bomb.gif Batman
This user is Batman.

Biff! Bop! Bash! --A Bothan SpyMod WTF U! 11:48, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Sit… Stay… No, don't move it to the incorrect place… BAD BOB, VERY, VERY, BAD BOB~ OMFGWTFBBQ he's killin' me! Check who created Johnaton 117 before moving it to a brand new criterion 11. :-p –Xoid STFU! 11:55, 29 May 2006 (BST)


Check the Speedy Dels page as to why I was trying to, but I can't get that image back. WTF? –Xoid STFU! 12:13, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Maybe you can't undelete images...? --A Bothan SpyMod WTF U! 12:15, 29 May 2006 (BST)
Just checked. You can't. Once gone it's permanent. Unfortunately, the replacement you uploaded doesn't have the shading the original had. It's just as useless as a blank page. With that in mind, I'm going to break the news to the groups affected. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cyberbob240 (talkcontribs) .

Seems like an appropriate place to bug you. Again. Captain Pollution, picture of. And template making homeboy. Equals… request for a template? (Or merely demonstrates that I'm lazy. One of the two.) –Xoid STFU! 15:09, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Already done, Xoid :D Here's the link. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 15:10, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Never heard of Captain Pollution, I take it? –Xoid STFU! 15:14, 30 May 2006 (BST)
No - I thought you were being funny. Where's this image you speak of? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 15:15, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Sneaky, sneaky, tryin' to turn my own trick against me. (The trick being, getting someone else to do all the work.) I'll find a pic and make an anti-template or something. It'll have a sarcastic comment, for certain though. –Xoid STFU! 15:19, 30 May 2006 (BST)


ALSO: Double vote on Mr Jedaz? Methinks this is NOT your day. –Xoid STFU! 13:16, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Yeah, I was about to point that one out as well in another header but I noticed this. So yeah thanks for the vouch though and to you as well Xoid (and everyone else who happens to read this and voted vouch, lol). - Jedaz 14:31, 29 May 2006 (BST)
The comment at the top isn't a vote. It's just stating that I couldn't vote for Jedaz at the time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cyberbob240 (talkcontribs) .
Is that why it was heavily bolded "Against" until Vista fixed it? –Xoid STFU! 08:29, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Um...I don't know. *cue X-Files music* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 08:33, 30 May 2006 (BST)


Angela needs some feed back on her barricade plan. I've looked through it a bit, but I mostly play a Zed at the moment. You play a survivor and tend to think shit through, so why don't you lend a good chick a helping hand? –Xoid STFU! 08:29, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Extra text in sig

Why do you have the text <span title="I love the smell of banned vandal in the morning!"> in your sig?--The General W! Mod 09:31, 30 May 2006 (BST)

For kicks. If you leave your mouse pointer on my sig (not the links; the gaps in between), that text will pop up. I got the idea off Xoid: check his sig as well :P --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 09:33, 30 May 2006 (BST)
It's hover text. I use a transcluded signature to hide mine. (If your using firefox, you'll need to hover over one of the bullets, the dash or just below the superscript text to get it. That being said, if Bob doesn't put the </span> tag at the end of his signature, I'm going to castrate him. –Xoid STFU! 09:35, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Geez... just because I'm new to the really advanced stuff! --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 09:39, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Clever, I might put one in my sig. Pity firefox ruins the effect a bit.--The General W! Mod 09:41, 30 May 2006 (BST)
That's actually how it's supposed to work, IE is lax in it's standards. –Xoid STFU!
I see.--The General W! Mod 09:52, 30 May 2006 (BST)
It's as advanced as a cheese burger, Bob. It's not like I didn't tell you when you first asked about it, and told you again when I first noticed you left it off. Besides, if the threat of me cyber-castrating you is supposed to be harsh, maybe cyber-killing you, or something… nevermind, I didn't think that through…
I still think it's better as a hidden extra though, it's obvious with a plain text signature. Too obvious. –Xoid STFU! 09:48, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Yeah, i'm going to change mine so it's hidden text too.--The General W! Mod 09:55, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Advanced as a cheeseburger for you, maybe... I'm not very good at all this coding shit. Anyway, I've fixed it, so that's that, eh? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 09:53, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Nope. Now you must block your own account, with the reason "I wonder what this button does…" –Xoid STFU! 09:57, 30 May 2006 (BST)
Ooh, I've had to resist temptation to block myself... :P --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 09:58, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Sgt Whiskey Swiper

No warning on his talk page. Forgetful? –Xoid STFU! 14:49, 30 May 2006 (BST)

No, I'm sure I put it there... oh. Firefox froze when I tried to change tabs to another page, so I guess the request was frozen. I'll fix it now. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 14:50, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Only You Can Prevent Forest Fires

With the kung-fu Rainbow Coalition. Rock the Planet, Bob. Rock the Planet. --Undeadinator 17:24, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Wow, what is going on?

I sense a great disturbance in your email inbox. --Bob Hammero TW!U! 05:00, 31 May 2006 (BST)

Replied. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 08:26, 31 May 2006 (BST)

June 2006

Chatter, chatter

Some people have, um, interesting worries about me. Huh. --Bob Hammero TW!U! 08:43, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Don't worry. Kevan is intelligent; he can decide for himself whether the worries are real or not. I must admit though, I got pretty lucky. The only people who voted against me were n00bs whose (fairly weak) complaints boosted my case (I think) and MaulMachine, and you know how much Kevan would take MaulMachine's word for truth... :) --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 08:48, 1 June 2006 (BST)
PS - Although, I find myself agreeing with Nubis a bit. While I know you've changed permanently, you did make your bid a little too soon after the change. If you get rejected by Kevan, that'll be why more than anything else, in my opinion. If that happens though, it's no biggie. Simply come back in... oh, give it roughly a month. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 08:52, 1 June 2006 (BST)
If the scales don't tip towards me, I'll probably pull out and try again in (exactly as you said) a month. But hey now, MaulMachine vouched for me. --Bob Hammero TW!U! 09:04, 1 June 2006 (BST)
Most everything I said to Cyberbob applies to you Mr. Hammero, check his archive. (I mean, fuck there are too many of you bastards. Alright, from now on, Cyberbob240 is "Cyber", JimboBob is "Jimbo", BobHammero is "Bob", Grarghal Bob is "Grarghal", and Lorena Bobbit is "Cock Chopper".) –Xoid STFU! 08:58, 1 June 2006 (BST)
Augh, don't mention me in the same sentence as her! Anyway, is this what you were talking about? "He can be a real cock at times, but if he can restrain his impulses, he'll do an outstanding job. Heres hoping on restraint." --Bob Hammero TW!U! 09:04, 1 June 2006 (BST)
Nope, Cyber's talk archive is where it's at. (My vouch for him, whilst written in anger, is true. But being a cock is better than being a pussy or an arsehole.) –Xoid STFU! 09:06, 1 June 2006 (BST)
I feel kind of stupid, but I still can't find it. Forgive me, I think we're in significantly different time zones. --Bob Hammero TW!U! 09:09, 1 June 2006 (BST)
So, I guess the template at the top of this page is invisible, then? *rolls eyes* --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 09:15, 1 June 2006 (BST)
Um, no, that would come from me clicking on "Archive" without looking to see if there's anything else. Uh.... I'm just trying to emulate my retarded president, okay? Yeah, that's it. By the way, don't forget, guys, that I wouldn't be running at all now if Hagnat hadn't urged me. Anyway, my hope is that the fact that I do have some older moderators vouching for me will count some extra in my favor. --Bob Hammero TW!U! 09:21, 1 June 2006 (BST)
It's under May, in the "Modship Bid" section. Xoid's comment is buried in there somewhere. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 09:26, 1 June 2006 (BST)
No no, I already found it. Thanks though. I was kidding about emulating Bush. ;-) But seriously, I feel better after re-reading the comments. The "Against" I take most seriously is Nubis's; the other two I weigh less heavily. It's just a bit of a punch in the gut when you see "oh look, something new on my bid... an against. Yay." --Bob Hammero TW!U! 09:30, 1 June 2006 (BST)
I was in the same boat. Don't worry too much. Kevan takes all of your aspects into account - not just your bad side (which, as you say, is pretty much gone). --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 09:33, 1 June 2006 (BST)
Hmm... maybe I should get around to donating to Kevan. ;-) Just kidding (well, about the bribery, I probably should donate, since I like the game so much). But honestly, can I compliment you again on your transformation? Pretty damn amazing! --Bob Hammero TW!U! 09:36, 1 June 2006 (BST)
Why, thank you! --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 09:37, 1 June 2006 (BST)
I'm just shocked neither of you commented on the Team America reference. –Xoid STFU! 09:42, 1 June 2006 (BST)
Uh... I haven't seen Team America. </embarrassment> --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 09:45, 1 June 2006 (BST)
Watch it, it's funny as fuck. There is just too much that's funny to sum it up properly, but if I had to sum it all up: Marionette Puppet Sex Scene. –Xoid STFU! 09:46, 1 June 2006 (BST)
I'll see your Marionette Puppet Sex Scene and raise you a Matt Damon. Or is that "Maaatt Daaaaamon"? --Bob Hammero TW!U! 09:50, 1 June 2006 (BST)
To segue from that in an awkward manner, you guys seriously need to check this out. I dunno what it is exactly, but there's something about seeing Julia Roberts in the same lineup as 50 people I've never heard of and that one weird webcomics guy that just makes my day. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 09:55, 1 June 2006 (BST)

I've been leaving a pseudo-customized boilerplate "please look at my bid, if you would" sort of comment on a few people's pages who seem to have contributed a fair amount to other past moderator bids. We'll see what they say, I suppose. --Bob Hammero TW!U! 09:04, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Should know better

No duh. The problem is that relevant comments can be made on that voters talk page, sure, but do you really want to have to message every second voter who didn't bother to read something, or think it their reasoning through at all? It's particularly bad when an otherwise good suggestion gets kills 'cause nobody RTFS. It's worse when a shit suggestion gets keep votes that use spurious reasoning that isn't meant in a purely sarcastic fashion. The current system is flawed and some people take offence to it; read Jedaz's praise on my user page. I'm not the only one around here with that opinion. –Xoid STFU! 15:55, 2 June 2006 (BST)

Make a policy changing it if you don't like it. I don't think it's all that great either; however, it is the system we've got. As I said, if you want it changed, go change it! --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 15:57, 2 June 2006 (BST)
I still think my two quips were amusing though. Check the history for a "I won't fuck with the votes again". (I only added my illegal re this time, that doesn't count as fucking with the votes, merely being a pain.) –Xoid STFU! 16:28, 2 June 2006 (BST)


Please don't use that template as a user template. It's meant to be used like Ohsnap, only with retarded people. For example:

Person1 (Who shall be referred to as Mattiator from this point on) says LOL I PWNED YOU NUB! WHAT R U LIEK 50?

Person2 says {{English}} —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mpaturet (talkcontribs) 03:33, 3 June 2006 (BST).

OK. The same was meant for my {{Speling}} & {{SpelingSmal}} templates... but oh well. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 03:32, 3 June 2006 (BST)
I left a comment on Mpaturet's talk page about something he might like to salvage for a template, meh, if you felt like it you could try and beat him to the punch. –Xoid STFU! 05:44, 3 June 2006 (BST)


Jeez. You cheated me out of two bans, and one of them would finally have gotten me that nifty PQN template.--'STER-Talk-Mod 05:02, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Yeah, I had just noticed. I was about to revert my edits, but you beat me to it.--'STER-Talk-Mod 05:04, 3 June 2006 (BST)
I'm sorry... :P Maybe next time, eh? I'm pretty sure PQN will be back. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 05:08, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Sorry to keep bugging you, but...

I found out what that "Oh snap!" bullshit is all about: it's sorta like a G-Rated way of saying "Oh Shit!". It's popularly used by Americans, which explains why we had no idea WTF it meant. –Xoid STFU! 10:55, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Really? Interesting... --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:56, 3 June 2006 (BST)
Oh, that's right - you're both furriners, ain't ya. In that case, I should note also that sometimes (such as in the wiki template) the expression is also used to convey to a person that they have been "served" and/or "burnt". --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 10:58, 3 June 2006 (BST)
In fact, go here. It's just a stub, but it covers things pretty well. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 11:00, 3 June 2006 (BST)
We knew what it was used for, just not why the words "Oh snap!" were chosen. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 11:01, 3 June 2006 (BST)
Hmm. Alright. I guess my point of confusion was that what Xoid offered up top was another definition, rather than the etymological (sp?) source you seem to be looking for. In any case, I'm pretty sure the wiki stub or one of the attached articles covers that, as well. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 11:05, 3 June 2006 (BST)
"Oh shit! Looks like someone got served!" ≈ "Woah, Shit! Looks like someone got served!" –Xoid STFU! 11:12, 3 June 2006 (BST)
...Huh? --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 20:50, 3 June 2006 (BST)
I was saying that with the right inflection they mean approximately the same thing as each other; inferring that "Oh shit! Looks like somone got served!" is ≈ "Oh snap! Looks like somone got served!". Or were you confused because you didn't see, or didn't recognise the mathematical symbol? –Xoid STFU! 06:42, 4 June 2006 (BST)
I saw/recognized the "roughly the same as" dealie. It's the fact that you've got "shit" on both sides that confused me. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 07:16, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Caught Not Reading

Might want to take another look at that last suggestion. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 06:30, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Whoops! Thanks for the headsup. --A Bothan SpyMU!P! 06:35, 4 June 2006 (BST)

You're no fun

Meanie. –Xoid STFU! 10:53, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Hey, if I didn't do it Bob would have. Take it to the talk page, if you have an irresistable to reply to someone's vote. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 10:54, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Pfft. How often does someone check that monstrosity of a talk page for something directly pertaining to them unless they made the suggestion in the first place? Also: since bob never removed my other comment, despite the fact he actually placed his Re: after I made it; are you sure of that? –Xoid STFU! 11:01, 4 June 2006 (BST)
It was probably just an oversight on his part. I can virtually guarantee that if he had noticed it he would've struck it out. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 11:02, 4 June 2006 (BST)
You're still a meanie. :-p –Xoid STFU! 11:03, 4 June 2006 (BST)
I didn't make the world, Xoid. I just try and live in it.</shameless ripoff> --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 11:06, 4 June 2006 (BST)


Are zombies supposed to be able to listen to the radio? I had mine tuned in to 26.26 before I got eaten and I can still hear the DEM over it. –Xoid STFU! 11:43, 4 June 2006 (BST)

They shouldn't be... I think. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 11:45, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Everyone else seems to be under the impression that they shouldn't… maybe I should post this on the bugs section. –Xoid STFU! 11:07, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Go for it! --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 11:09, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Not a bug! It's a Feature!Xoid STFU! 14:03, 6 June 2006 (BST)
Follow Up: You have no idea how useful it is having various human groups tell me where to find a fresh meal. Maybe you should get one or three for your zombie — tune them into a couple of good stations, like 26.26 … I ain't afraid to work both ends against the middle ;-) … 26.66 - Less useful, but good to know general movements of PKers, their victims and their hunters (all three of which are a tasty treat) … heh, I'm loving this, so useful for a mid-level zombie controlled by a player with some cunning. –Xoid STFU! 09:01, 7 June 2006 (BST)
I might just do that. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 09:02, 7 June 2006 (BST)
Almost forgot, there's also the obvious benefit of knowing that survivors are going to raid section X, or section Y, etc. Moving into a heavily zombulated area to lessen the chance of gettin' headshot. The tactical advantages are working out pretty well; I haven't had this much fun as a zombie for some time. (Got to remember to thank the fools nice folks who revived my career zombie.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xoid (talkcontribs) 09:21, 7 June 2006 (BST).

Houston, we have a problem...

Talk:M-ZAP - I think you missed something… better grab what you want before I list it for speedy. –Xoid STFU! 13:09, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Nah, it doesn't matter - Mattiator moved it all to his talk page a while ago. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 15:16, 4 June 2006 (BST)

From NexusWar

"Someone has written Jorm doesn't exist. He is a myth. in magic marker on a rock."
"Someone has written Jorm is watching in magic marker on a rock."

Seems the general lack of sanity from UD moved along with the playerbase. –Xoid STFU! 15:22, 4 June 2006 (BST)

I've seen the second one around. Haven't seen the first, though. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 15:25, 4 June 2006 (BST)

WTF dude

你是用翻譯機還是你會中文?看起來有點�?�?�文法呀. you are using translator right? or you actually know chinese...cos its a bit grammartically incorrect and stuff. --Changchad WTFW!SGP 17:14, 4 June 2006 (BST)

No translator... it must be inconsistencies in character selection (I don't know a few of them) by the program I'm using. I know what I'm trying to say. And I don't know much Chinese - I'm only in Year 10... --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:17, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Oh..whats that thing about my mom and eating my dog? Dammit. Wheres the abtraitor? --Changchad WTFW!SGP 17:20, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Just a little joke that is used extensively at school... basically, it's saying that your mum is too expensive and that I want to eat your dog :) --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:22, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Heh, you are lucky I have a good sense of humour. And OH NOES! My dog! --Changchad WTFW!SGP 17:23, 4 June 2006 (BST)
To be honest, it was kind of aimed at Xoid - taking advantage of his...lacking...language skills :D --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:25, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Ahh. You never know. He may know it like Zaruthustra does ;). --Changchad WTFW!SGP 17:26, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Zaruthustra knows Chinese? And you think you know a guy... :P --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:27, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Yeah, check his page, on the first link about himself. And also Ron's talk page, he used chinese there. --Changchad WTFW!SGP 17:29, 4 June 2006 (BST)
You learn something new every day. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:30, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Xoid is rather pissed off about it :/ --Changchad WTFW!SGP 17:45, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Bah. He's overreacting. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:48, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Overreacting? Why bother spamming my talk page with shit that I can't read? It long enough as it is. –Xoid STFU! 17:49, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Come on Xoid. It was just a bit of fun. Where's your sense of humour? --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:50, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Blowing my dog, out back. Why'd you want to know? –Xoid STFU! 20:18, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Major overhauls

Is there any rule against replacing a page with an enormously overhauled version, especially a high-profile one such as Suggestions Dos and Do Nots? I'm part of the rewrite project (and apparently the only one who has done work) and I'm done with it (see here for my rewrite). –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 19:02, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Eh, I'd clear it through the Talk:Suggestions page first. Set up a vote for your revision. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 21:56, 4 June 2006 (BST)
A bit too late for that now. Zaruthustra liked it, anyway, and he is the other guy on the revision project. –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 22:13, 4 June 2006 (BST)
Well, if no-one objects, then you must have done a good job! Actually, to be honest, I don't think many people will notice... --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 22:16, 4 June 2006 (BST)
I hope the first time someone notices is when they say "hey, that page is actually readable now." –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 22:18, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Private Discussion

Go to for Mod Discussions Conndrakamod T W! 19:16, 4 June 2006 (BST)

I think we would be better of using the private board on my forum for mod chat, rather than creating a new board using proboards.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:10, 4 June 2006 (BST)


You gonna answer my rebuttal or not? –Xoid STFU! 12:17, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Maybe... --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 12:21, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Suggestion help?

Hey, I was wondering if you would mind reading over my suggestion and leave comments about it to make sure it's clear and concise. I'ld really appreciate it, you can find it on my talk page. Thanks. - Jedaz 13:46, 8 June 2006 (BST)


he may not want made public knowledge. After all, if he did, wouldn't he have already have put it there?

He had nothing against revealing that information:

Since a User page is required to leave a message to that user on his Talk page, I had to create one for him.

Explain to me how is that supposed to be vandalism? --The Fifth Horseman 17:06, 8 June 2006 (BST)

The content of the information is not the vandalism, as was pointed out to me by Nubis. The vandalism was the fact that you changed his user page - not the content of the info. You don't need to have a user page before your talk page can be accessed at all, as evidenced by my creation of Nob666's talk page just then, when he doesn't have a user page. Don't edit other people's user pages except to correct typos or to fix coding errors. --A Bothan Spy Mod WTF U! 17:14, 8 June 2006 (BST)


It seems anticlimatic this way. Regardless, you may wish to edit your table (breaking it into two sections) just so you can have the image. –Xoid STFU! 07:48, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Can you give me a hand with it? Despite my image, I'm not a very big whiz at this wiki stuff... Cyberbob  Talk  07:50, 9 June 2006 (BST)
Permission to fuck with your page? –Xoid STFU! 07:54, 9 June 2006 (BST)
Granted. Cyberbob  Talk  07:54, 9 June 2006 (BST)
Done, not sure if you'll like it though, it was hard to get the placement right. Unless you'd prefer that I rewrite the page from scratch. (Which I'm not up for, I've got a template for generator statuses to work on.) –Xoid STFU! 08:06, 9 June 2006 (BST)
No, that's fine. Thanks! I'll just have a little play around with it. Cyberbob  Talk  08:08, 9 June 2006 (BST)
By reverting? Heh, I knew the change sucked; I could've get 100% control if I wrote the whole bloody thing in a table, but that is a fuckload of work. –Xoid STFU! 08:18, 9 June 2006 (BST)
I just decided that the smaller image looks better than the sidebar being split. Which it does :P Cyberbob  Talk  08:19, 9 June 2006 (BST)


Huh? - Why did you cross out Ron Burgandy's Re:, to the author's Re:, to Ron Burgandy's own vote? –Xoid STFU! 10:27, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Damn. I really need to start, you know, reading things... Cyberbob  Talk  10:29, 9 June 2006 (BST)

You voted that Drag Victim was amost a dupe, but failed to say what it was almost a dupe of. You also gave me an un-needed warning not to reply to every kill vote I came on. I was wondering why, since I have never replied to every kill vote ever.--Savat 16:28, 14 June 2006 (EST)

Wiki disscussion forum

I have just created a wiki discussion forum to discuss the wiki in standarded message board format. All current wiki moderators will be made moderators on the forum.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:58, 9 June 2006 (BST)


People will get the message when they read that. Unfortunately, I'm sure there are people stupid enough to not get it. –Xoid STFU! 12:39, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Read what? Oh. I just saw it. Thanks. Cyberbob  Talk  12:46, 10 June 2006 (BST)


It seems as though you can make us "Administrators" actually be labelled as moderators by modifying the builtin messages. Also, you may wish to vote on this entirely serious and important issue. –Xoid STFU! 14:03, 10 June 2006 (BST)

If you'll have a look at the "Modify Profile" function you can make yourself a true admin! Not that I'd ever use it, but... Cyberbob  Talk  14:14, 10 June 2006 (BST)
I was actually referring to System messages, but that's also intriguing. –Xoid STFU! 15:03, 10 June 2006 (BST)
Ah... that page doesn't exist. Cyberbob  Talk  15:10, 10 June 2006 (BST)
*whistles* Are you sure >:E (Also I just got 6 FAKS for 9APs. w00t!) –Xoid STFU! 15:20, 10 June 2006 (BST)
Heh. What is the message's label? Cyberbob  Talk  15:22, 10 June 2006 (BST)
There are actually multiple instances of it, for each specific case (like contact an Administrator about your block, etc.) –Xoid STFU! 15:24, 10 June 2006 (BST)
EDIT: Wait. I've just discovered that we would need to change a lot of messages if we wanted to make the change. But I don't really mind being a "sysop". Cyberbob  Talk  15:25, 10 June 2006 (BST)
Which is exactly what I just said. –Xoid STFU! 15:33, 10 June 2006 (BST)
I know, but it was an edit conflict and I didn't want to waste all that typing :D Cyberbob  Talk  15:39, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Check the protection log

And you may be surprised… –Xoid STFU! 14:52, 11 June 2006 (BST)

Heh. Fixed. Cyberbob  Talk  14:57, 11 June 2006 (BST)
:D thought it might. –Xoid STFU! 14:58, 11 June 2006 (BST)


Is there one for this? It's very interesting, nonetheless.–Xoid STFU! 16:11, 11 June 2006 (BST)

What are you referring to there? The author kill? Cyberbob  Talk  16:16, 11 June 2006 (BST)
I was, but I just remember that there is a precedent. So… nevermind. –Xoid STFU! 16:17, 11 June 2006 (BST)
I remember it as well. Well, not the actual suggestion it happened to, just that it happened. Cyberbob  Talk  16:18, 11 June 2006 (BST)


If you've got it, I want to talk to you ASAP. –Xoid STFU! 09:37, 14 June 2006 (BST)

OK. My address is Cyberbob  Talk  09:39, 14 June 2006 (BST)
Good to see some of the older mods aren't dead. Novelty popped up today, as you noticed, Daranz a little while back, LibrarianBrent in that amazing fisaco. Want a transcript of my "talk" with you-know-who? –Xoid STFU! 13:00, 14 June 2006 (BST)
Sure, why not. You know the email address. Cyberbob  Talk  13:02, 14 June 2006 (BST)
You there? I need to vent. –Xoid STFU! 15:37, 15 June 2006 (BST)

Boobs. –Xoid STFU! 07:42, 25 June 2006 (BST)


Am I still an evil clown? Sonny Corleone WTF 01:08, 18 June 2006 (BST)

Um... no. I'd say you're a Yuk Yuk, maybe? Cyberbob  Talk  03:44, 18 June 2006 (BST)
Cool. Sonny Corleone WTF 04:03, 18 June 2006 (BST)


The Abandoned are coming out with a new logo after seeing me put up their old one on the deltions page. Care to see my "remix"? --Akule 10:05, 18 June 2006 (BST)

I already saw it. I approve :P Cyberbob  Talk  10:12, 18 June 2006 (BST)


damn, almost the second... --hagnat mod 18:35, 18 June 2006 (BST)

My heart nearly exploded. Cyberbob  Talk  18:41, 18 June 2006 (BST)


That seriously was undeserved. Cyberbob  Talk  18:50, 18 June 2006 (BST)

2-0 Brazil. Good game. Good luck against Croatia. :D --hagnat mod 18:55, 18 June 2006 (BST)

Yeah, it was. We seriously deserved a better result than that. We won't need luck against Croatia. Well, maybe just a little... Cyberbob  Talk  18:57, 18 June 2006 (BST)
My bet was 2-1 Brazil. You guys didnt done your job right :( --hagnat mod 19:03, 18 June 2006 (BST)

:( I was looking for a Brazil - Australia rematch. As far as i could see it (only the second half of the game), both teams have played very well today. But that faul in the end of the game was completly wrong, the italian guy was smiling as he was falling. Sorry for you guys. Better luck next next time. :( --hagnat mod 18:08, 26 June 2006 (BST)



I just like templates. I'm more of a Mandalorian than an Imperial myself. But I'm a template whore so I couldn't resist. Sonny Corleone WTF 14:47, 20 June 2006 (BST)

Heh. Cyberbob  Talk  14:48, 20 June 2006 (BST)


Not much you can do, really. --Grim s-Mod U! 11:31, 22 June 2006 (BST)

So the fact that the original author of "ErynSMA"'s comment was Lillian (also the creator and almost sole contributor - until I brought it up - of the page) doesn't have enough weight. Damn. Cyberbob  Talk  11:40, 22 June 2006 (BST)


Thanks for correcting my warning on rueful's talk page. I wasn't concentrating :P. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The General (talkcontribs) .

No probs. Cyberbob  Talk  17:57, 23 June 2006 (BST)

n00b Alert

Mattiator is back. What a pity. –Xoid STFU! 03:57, 25 June 2006 (BST)

And you already knew. What a bitch his return will be. –Xoid STFU! 04:43, 25 June 2006 (BST)
I know. Seems he thinks playing up his annoyingness is going to make him popular. Cyberbob  Talk  07:37, 25 June 2006 (BST)


You're a mod so maybe you'll know. What happened to the Lexicon? Sonny Corleone WTF 14:12, 25 June 2006 (BST)

What do you mean? Cyberbob  Talk  14:13, 25 June 2006 (BST)
It says it's not there anymore. On the Main Page it's red and when I click on it it says to edit it as if it didn't exist. Sonny Corleone WTF 14:14, 25 June 2006 (BST)
Oh. Kevan changed the namespaces around. The_Urban_Dead_Wiki is now UDWiki. Cyberbob  Talk  14:15, 25 June 2006 (BST)
Thanks. There's some other pages on the Main Page like it too. Sonny Corleone WTF 14:18, 25 June 2006 (BST)
I know. Don't worry; they'll be fixed. Cyberbob  Talk  14:19, 25 June 2006 (BST)

Speaking of classifications

Mine seem a bit out of date, don't you think? –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 06:53, 28 June 2006 (BST)

I'll have a looksee. Cyberbob  Talk  06:54, 28 June 2006 (BST)
Thank you, Young Grasshopper. ;) –Bob Hammero ModB'cratTA 08:57, 28 June 2006 (BST)
<insert whatever the Karate Kid replies with here> Cyberbob  Talk  08:59, 28 June 2006 (BST)

Hey, how 'bout me? Do I get a revision, too? C'mon, don't make me feel left out here. You know I get all stabby when that happens. --Jimbo Bob ASSU! 18:12, 30 June 2006 (BST)

OK... Cyberbob  Talk  19:09, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Hehe. Scared you huh?

Irritating as fuck to have to go through the bans and reapply them properly, but I'd prefer to err on the side of caution than what would happen if they [wikipedia] were wrong. –Xoid STFU! 08:06, 28 June 2006 (BST)

HAET. Cyberbob  Talk  08:23, 28 June 2006 (BST)


Something. --Someone 18:02, 30 June 2006 (BST)

STFU. Cyberbob  Talk  18:04, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Just saying thanks

As it says on the tin --Black_Orchard 18:08, 30 June 2006 (BST)

You're perfectly welcome. Cyberbob  Talk  18:11, 30 June 2006 (BST)