User talk:DangerReport/Quarlesbank
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Up to now, 9 of the 16 TRPs are in survivors hands. So is the mall. 4 of the TRPs are unknown status, giving the zeds only about 3 of the resource buildings. Yellow alert. Scout Dude 04:00, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
- Update: 12 of the 16 TRPs are in survivors hands, including the mall. Only 17 of 61 buildings in suburb are ruined. It may remains at yellow alert. Scout Dude 03:48, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
- If anyone wants to change de color of the danger map, report at the buildings status or discuss here, unless you wanna troll. Stop changing it by yourself without reason! Scout Dude 01:11, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- Changing it without stating why is the norm, not trolling. In fact, this is the ONLY danger report talk page that I can recall ever seeing in use, and I've been monitoring all of them for almost a year now. You disagree with what the other person did? Talk it out with them on their talk page if you don't think they had good reason. I happen to know that other person though, and know that they probably think the suburb is legitimately orange (not saying I agree or disagree, just saying that they're not the type to troll). It's probably just a difference of opinion, so talk it out with them, or else put up with it. Don't demand more work from people that isn't necessary. —Aichon— 02:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- It is trolling by one reason: the change happened without reporting the status of the buildings. Specially the TRPs. Just check the TRPs reports at this suburb and you will see that it shouldn't be orange. Changing it without any reason is definetely trolling, better say, vandalism. It is at the main rules. You can't change it just because you think it is this way. It is NOT a matter of opinion. It is a matter of evidence. That's why I demand more work from people that IS necessary. And you should take a look with more careful at the other suburbs danger map discussion. There are plenty of them! Scout Dude 19:12, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- There may be plenty of them, but what I was saying was that I don't recall seeing them used within the last year. As for the TRP statuses, they're not always up to date, and people are not required to update them if they don't want to. If someone does a quick survey of a suburb, they may be able to see that the suburb is clearly a certain color, but they are under no obligation to update anything at all. That's what I was saying. Evidence is not necessary so long as what they say is true. If what they are saying is clearly untrue, then yes, you're right, it's potentially a case of vandalism. But if it's two users squabbling about whether it should be yellow or orange, that can very easily be a difference of opinion in how you define "many" (note that it doesn't say "most" until you get to red). Basically, unless there's an actual, and official, dispute between users, evidence is not necessary, though clearly it's preferred. —Aichon— 21:58, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, you are right. I must apologize to everyone that wasted their time reading this, to you and to the person that changed the danger map. I shouldn't say it was vandalism. I just got used that people usually change the color just to fit their own desires (red if they are zombie, green if they are survivor). Anyway, I really think it is not opinion that matters here, but the truth, like you said. Updating the buildings statuses would be nice and would give a better "touch" to the person's point of view. People must chang as they think its right, since they are not lying. You have a point there. Thanks! Scout Dude 01:32, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Scout Dude, you rock, and there's no need to apologize. I can definitely see where you're coming from, and you're definitely right that people should update the statuses that they are aware of. That said, I'll settle for whatever I can get, since some of these things can go months without updates. As an aside, the person that updated it is a survivor that I know, which is why I figured that they weren't just doing it for laughs or to favor their side. I haven't been up to Quarlesbank in a few months, and I don't know how it looks at the moment either way, so I'll always defer to people like you that are on the scene and can make that call. —Aichon— 02:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, you are right. I must apologize to everyone that wasted their time reading this, to you and to the person that changed the danger map. I shouldn't say it was vandalism. I just got used that people usually change the color just to fit their own desires (red if they are zombie, green if they are survivor). Anyway, I really think it is not opinion that matters here, but the truth, like you said. Updating the buildings statuses would be nice and would give a better "touch" to the person's point of view. People must chang as they think its right, since they are not lying. You have a point there. Thanks! Scout Dude 01:32, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- There may be plenty of them, but what I was saying was that I don't recall seeing them used within the last year. As for the TRP statuses, they're not always up to date, and people are not required to update them if they don't want to. If someone does a quick survey of a suburb, they may be able to see that the suburb is clearly a certain color, but they are under no obligation to update anything at all. That's what I was saying. Evidence is not necessary so long as what they say is true. If what they are saying is clearly untrue, then yes, you're right, it's potentially a case of vandalism. But if it's two users squabbling about whether it should be yellow or orange, that can very easily be a difference of opinion in how you define "many" (note that it doesn't say "most" until you get to red). Basically, unless there's an actual, and official, dispute between users, evidence is not necessary, though clearly it's preferred. —Aichon— 21:58, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- It is trolling by one reason: the change happened without reporting the status of the buildings. Specially the TRPs. Just check the TRPs reports at this suburb and you will see that it shouldn't be orange. Changing it without any reason is definetely trolling, better say, vandalism. It is at the main rules. You can't change it just because you think it is this way. It is NOT a matter of opinion. It is a matter of evidence. That's why I demand more work from people that IS necessary. And you should take a look with more careful at the other suburbs danger map discussion. There are plenty of them! Scout Dude 19:12, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- Changing it without stating why is the norm, not trolling. In fact, this is the ONLY danger report talk page that I can recall ever seeing in use, and I've been monitoring all of them for almost a year now. You disagree with what the other person did? Talk it out with them on their talk page if you don't think they had good reason. I happen to know that other person though, and know that they probably think the suburb is legitimately orange (not saying I agree or disagree, just saying that they're not the type to troll). It's probably just a difference of opinion, so talk it out with them, or else put up with it. Don't demand more work from people that isn't necessary. —Aichon— 02:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- If anyone wants to change de color of the danger map, report at the buildings status or discuss here, unless you wanna troll. Stop changing it by yourself without reason! Scout Dude 01:11, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
