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Come in! You're in the right place to talk about the Wiki, complain about the 'education' of Philosophe Knight FX or compliment the efficiency of reviver Thanatos. Why do I somehow get the feeling the second reason is what will attract the most visitors... --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 05:36, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Militaries Sans Frontieres

Hey Foxlion, by chance I saw your deletion request on your misspelled group page and have carried it out. However, sys-ops do not always watch every random page. If you want to get rid of a page again, a more reliable way is to file a request at UDWiki:Administration/Speedy Deletions, or as short-hand A/SD. If you ever have a question about admin stuff, feel free to spam my talk page. -- Spiderzed 23:00, 22 September 2012 (BST)

I've also just seen your signature had non-closed tags, which garbled all the following page on the text. I have just fixed it as I saw it. -- Spiderzed 23:03, 22 September 2012 (BST)
Signature looks good now code-wise. As for your group page, a good first step is usually to add and fill out Template:Groupbox by typing {{Groupbox}} along with all the parameters explained here, and to add the basic group category such as Category:Survivor Groups or Category:Zombie Groups or Category:PKer Groups. -- Spiderzed 13:58, 23 September 2012 (BST)

RE: My criticism

Thank you for your kind words, Foxlion.
I assure you, there was a great deal I left unsaid. The irreverence shown by the DEM, DHPD, Knights Templar, and ACC towards the groups they lured to Blackmore with promises of glory, yet left conveniently out of their planning threads is really the height of their crime. Failing to bring any plan to the table when going into the most dangerous suburb in Malton may have been the height of incompetence, but leading others on - those who trusted in their reputation and numbers - into such a disappointment really deserves at the least an apology.
Instead, I suspect you'll have to make do with empty claims of a symbolic victory and a sour taste in your mouth at the memory of the 'glory'. Perhaps not the best introduction to major events in the city for you. I wish things could have been different (I would have enjoyed helping my colleagues PK you in Blackmore, had there been time!), but that's the state of the current mainstream survivor population.
As it happens, your new mercenary group has caught my eye several times. You don't seem to shy away from unorthodox methods or from PKing. I rather like that. Should you wish to engage in other such...unorthodox events, please feel free to contact me. You can find me either on the wiki (which I check only occasionally), on the PK forum, or (most often) on IRC, on the Nexuswar server, going by the name DT. Do consider stopping by some time. I'm sure we'd have much to talk about.
Praise Knowledge!--DTPraise KnowledgePK 06:23, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

We are always glad to find an ally, so I'll be sure to stop by the PK forums or IRC when I get the chance. Had I not been intrigued by the idea of making a mercenary group, I probably would have joined the Philosophe Knights, as Ignorance has repeatedly struck me as the worst enemy of the survivors, more so than zombies. I've often suspected the major survivor groups of incompetence, which is why I never joined them, and this incident seems to prove it beyond doubt. Yes, the fact that the leading survivor groups refused to grant access to their planning threads was an annoyance, and an insult, when one considers no planning went on after all, despite their secrecy.
Unlike the survivor groups who led this November debacle, I do believe in keeping one's promise and commitment, so MSF will continue to help the survivor cause in Ridleybank for this month, as we stated on our wiki pages, though I assure you we will keep a yard away from any DEM rallies. But directly after that, I hope to make the bureaucrats regret their irresponsible leadership through the bitterness of death. May the ignorant learn from their sufferings! I'm glad this mess at least allowed me to make the acquaintance of one of the few intelligent minds left in Malton. Anyway, adieu, and I do hope we can soon bring death on the arrogant survivors. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 07:32, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Minor Request

On this edit, would you mind changing it so as it's my O13 alt (Jayson Exccks) that invited you? 'Tis a really minor request. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 05:23, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Ah, sure. I'll change it on the forums, too. --   FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 05:29, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Sweet. Have a cookie.
Cookie.jpg A FREE COOKIE
Axe Hack has given Foxlion a cookie for no reason.

--•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 05:32, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Hm, much better than Russian rations. :) --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 05:43, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Barricade Enforcement

FYI they were an offshoot of The Dead randomly pking people for failing to follow non existent barricade plans, including several who didn't even possess Construction. They never were a survivor group. --Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 20:20, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

No problem. A lot of people were fooled.--Ross Less Ness Enter Stranger... 21:41, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

The Fox and the Lion - older than the Renaissance

As much as I like Machiavelli (and his two main works Principe and Discorsi are an absolutely required reads IMHO), at this point he was probably referencing a much older aphorism: "Where the lion's skin will not reach, it must be pieced with the fox's." - Lysander, Spartan general, 4th century BC, (as recorded by Plutarch - context) -- Spiderzed 11:40, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh yes, I was completely forgetting about that one. I don't know why, but I never got into Greek history as much as the myths. Not enough violence and irony for me, I suppose. I like my stories very bloody and twisted. I never gave Plutarch the attention he deserves, but I'll take a look at this one, since anything with references to fox-lions and using cunning tactics in war make good reading. I love the Internet Classics Archive, too. Thanks for the reference. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 21:12, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks again for the link. Been reading it for the past hour, and I'm enjoying it. I think I like this Lysander. Ruthless, cunning, but honorable in a way. My kind of thinking. I appreciate leaders and soldiers who choose not to live in decadent luxury, and always keep working for their goals. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 07:20, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

JRC forums

Hey! we've made a forum for the JRC where we can actually coordinate. Tell me in what general area you reside and I will try to find you to fill you in on the rest. --Leiter 02:49, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

JRC forums

Hey! we've made a forum for the JRC where we can actually coordinate. Tell me in what general area you reside and I will try to find you to fill you in on the rest. --Leiter 02:49, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

You've Earned It


Sinq.jpg Well!
Foxlion certainly didn't expect some sort of Spanish Inquisition!

--Mallrat The Spanish Inquisition TSI The Kilt Store TKS Clubbed to Death CTD 03:31, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Why, thank you. Yes, I certainly didn't expect this sort of Spanish Inquisition. Just the confession that you Cardinals like smoking, have secret wives, and are supporters of the Borgia family, and my surprise will be complete. ;) --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 01:16, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

What does...

...leveling up from 2 to 3 in Javascript look like? I'm kinda curious. :P Aichon 04:32, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Ah, somebody noticed such a small change. For me, it means beginning to be able to understand what each line of code does, and making pics/text grow and shrink without ugly side effects and finally getting a decently working slideshow in a website I'm working on. Even if it was mostly tweaking borrowed code, I think it's the equivalent of being able to buy first combat skills in Malton. ;)
Although of course, unlike UD, one can lose XP without constant practice, so it remains to be seen whether I will remain a level 3. :P --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 07:33, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Gotcha. And yep, someone notices everything on this wiki. ;) Aichon 16:20, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
By the way, does JS work on the wiki? I hope yes, it would give me a nice excuse to spend even more time in Malton. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 06:59, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Afraid not (at least, not without involving a sysop to rewrite the Javascript that's included on the site itself, which is more or less not an option), though if you want to fool around with Javascript, you might consider writing some userscripts for the game. I wrote a few, and they may give you an idea of how simple or complex they can be, but they were a good excuse for me to fool around with Javascript a few years ago when I wanted to get some more experience with it, and they've ended up being rather useful in general. Aichon 16:16, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for the late response, was out of town for a few days. Thanks for the suggestion, the idea of making userscripts is nice, though I think I'll wait till I'm at least level 15 before embarking on such an ambitious project. ;)
I like your scripts by the way, though I really need to make some time to install more. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 20:46, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
No worries, and, honestly, if you're already tweaking code, you could probably delve into some of the simpler userscripts and edit them to your liking. For instance, a number of people have made changes to UD Map to make the colors different or have it color different types of buildings (e.g. my personal copy of UD Map is actually different than the one I post, since I like to have Centers of Learning indicated on the map as well, and I know Klexur has made changes of that sort to his copy as well, based on screenshots I've seen). A-GPS is a super-simple script that you could probably read over and understand in a few minutes to an hour as a newbie, with the only complication in it being the use of something called XPath to grab parts of the page. Aichon 21:33, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, if I can tweak stuff that is a fine excuse to practice JS. Changing colors usually doesn't require much work, but it's always an interesting way to learn the syntax. I'll have to put userscripts on my to-do list then. Thanks for the detailed suggestions, and letting me know which ones to start on. Indicating Centers of Learning is a great idea, especially for a Philosophe Knight.. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 22:22, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Which twin is the evil one?

n/t Aichon 04:02, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, most other people consider FX the evil one, since he is the killer after all. But I consider Thanatos the selfish, amoral one, since FX is working hard to improve Malton in his own way, while Thanatos does everything, even revives and repairs, for his own amusement, and is committed only to himself. He's not above eating bra!nz or helping pull down barricades if killed. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 18:35, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


Kierkegaard is soft and noncommittal. He wallows in irony, and wallowing in irony is how we got stuck with postmodernism. In the south we enjoy donuts and Schopenhauer. We are currently out of donuts. --Paddy DignamIS DEAD 05:36, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh ho, the man using the James Joyce picture to represent himself criticizes the fact that we are stuck in post-modernism.
I cannot fault people who appreciate Schopenhauer too harshly (though I can't say I share your other taste), but allow me to offer a second lesson about Kierkegaard. If you read his works carefully, you will realize his clever prose and irony express the doubts and thoughts of a man who has seen the world and life for what it is, and is seeking a way to embrace and find some truth in it. Post-modernism is not a wishy-washy stage of thinking as many believe- it is the inevitable reaction of mankind, who have gotten mature and smart enough to question the existence of God, morals and meaning. Schopenhauer's works are intelligent, interesting, yet I do not feel he has seen the world as it truly is. He was still, despite all his pessimistic comments, an optimist and a poet. His beliefs in compassion are the epitome of 'soft' if you ask me. SK's satires offer truth, without dramatic bitterness or saccharine.
As for commitment, the path of SK's "Knight of Faith" is a far nobler and sincere path than what most other philosophers have had the courage to offer.
But thank you for enlightening me to the mental state of Danversbank- I do have to head south anyway and I shall mark it as a high-priority suburb during my little tour. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 06:25, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
First of all, my friend, that's me in the picture, Paddy, not this Joyce fellow, who is obviously a great looking fellow and all, only not me. Second, this Joyce fellow was a father of Modernism, not Postmodernism. The difference between the two (in literature, at least) is that the former represents a struggle for meaning in a turbulent, godless world, while the latter represents a struggle to masturbate in creative ways for as long as possible without passing out. There are exceptions to the postmodern stain, of course. Pynchon's early work comes to mind.
In any event, I like Kierkegaard, a blazing forerunner of Modernism and Existentialism. I was just pulling your leg. He's more of a poet than a philosopher (Schopenhauer was the opposite), but he had to be. He saw an emptiness in the philosophical method. The image of man trembling at the edge of the abyss, contemplating the leap, has become a touchstone of Western thought--though I'd argue that very few people give a shit about touchstones of Western thought anymore. Too busy masturbating and all that.
As for Schop, Art was his and our only consolation against the degenerate cycle of human desire. His point about compassion was that it was only genuine if all personal motive and utility were removed from the compassionate act. True enough. But neither art nor compassion could soften his dictum that "to desire immortality is to desire the perpetuation of a great mistake."
I prefer comic books these days, to be honest. --Paddy DignamIS DEAD 18:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, that clears up many things. Convenient- as one who considers Kierkegaard one of the greatest and most original philosophers, I was beginning to think I needed to come down to Danversbank and lecture there in person, if he was not given due credit. Which would have been a hassle, given my current engagements in the north.
About Joyce, I cannot quite consider him a father of modernism- he seems to me merely the worst, or best, product of modernism (depending on your opinion of that movement- I stand with the former.). And certainly he does not represent postmodernism. Since modernism is even more extreme than postmodernism, I was referring to the fact that someone who disliked being stuck in post-modernism and SK could well be expected to loathe modernism and Joyce. Despite the prefix of 'post', modernism seems to me to actually be a branch from the postmodern thought. I consider Joyce and others like him a reaction against postmodernism- artists who realize there is no meaning, decide there is no point in trying to define the experience of being human anymore, as Kierkegaard attempted, and just, ah, 'try to masturbate as long as possible', as you so poetically described. Stark cynicism and empty hedonism follows doubt and trembling.
And oh, I see... that's you and Joyce just happened to look similar. My mistake. A miracle you managed to find such a similar eyepatch today. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 00:42, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Your excellent Lecture

I think others got this too, but just in case: Well done! --  Seekandyeshallfind    Binoculars12.jpg 13:14, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Danke! --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 16:28, 22 March 2013 (UTC)


Hello, I'm inviting you to join my newly formed group NWO If you're interested I'd be more than happy to chat. CyberOpposition 21:40, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

foxlion, out of respect for philosophe knights, do not join these clowns. i have been wanting to go up to their territory and kill many of them for some time now. i have fade patience for miscreant groups like new world order.. --Anja Arnheim 22:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Someone seems like a saaad panda. Harboring threats in the name of The Philosophe Knights then calling us miscreant. I would actually be more than happy to see the Philosophe Knights make an appearance in Dulston. It would be more than interesting to see a group like that organize just to kill members of my group. Funny enough you would be a good addition to NWO too Anja, you're halfway there signing up on the NWO forum after all. CyberOpposition 23:30, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
thank you for reminding me. i keep forgetting that i wanted to foal announce war, but my memory is not the best and I forget. --Anja Arnheim 23:35, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
I still don't understand why you should even care or why you would have to throw The Philosophe Knights in Foxlions face when I mention NWO. I'm sorry, but when was NWO ever a threat to you or your group? If you didn't think the group sounded tempting then why care? CyberOpposition 23:40, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Other than encouraging us to educate the both of you on account of the idiocy on display, I fail to see what we have to do with any of this. Foxlion is free to make his own decisions for how he uses his alts, and making a thinly veiled attempt at baiting us to attack you is about as desperate for attention as one can get. IV PK 23:58, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
not as much as it is to retain his dignity. forgive me for forgetting that people have alts. --Anja Arnheim 00:05, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Thinly veiled attempt at baiting you into attacking us? Sorry for misinterpreting Anjas personal threat as a threat from the Philosophe Knights. I was merely making it clear that I could care less if Anja, The Philosophy Knights, or any other individual or group decided to attack us on account I don't care about what they represent or who they are. On the note of attention getting, do you guys REALLY think I want this kind of attention while I'm trying to recruit someone? No. I would have wanted it where Anja didn't have to say anything and Aichon didn't have to say anything. Because it obviously makes me and my group look bad. So on behalf of my group Thanks for the peanut gallery, threats and disrespect.CyberOpposition 00:19, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

My, one really cannot vacate the office for a few hours without a hailstorm of messages coming in. Anja, I'm honored you consider me a friend, but I think we've already discovered we have very different views on what is miscreant or not. We might both want to heal Malton, but we go about it with very different methods. And I do want to say this conversation never needed mention the Philosophe Knights. That said, foxlion is very happy at Southall, and I would like to leave my other alt less active for now.

So thank you for the invite, CyberOpposition, but I have to decline at this moment. It looks like a very interesting group actually, so good luck. And if you would like to contact the PK for a potential alliance or need a few revives in the Barrville region, do let me know. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 05:13, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

please report to the pgg chat thing. it is on the pgg page, but it is also if you are lazy.--Anja Arnheim 05:18, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, that sure does solve the mystery of, "will Foxlion join the NWO?" lol You're IRC has nobody in it too. CyberOpposition 15:48, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


Hey Foxlion, you killed my character, Maxwellhammer in Spicer hills after making some comments about zerging and I just wanted to check whether or not this was typical taunting or if you actually believe that 1111 zerg because nothing could be further from the truth. Their counterpart, the Ze Purists 'group' on the other hand are rife with it. In good faith Legion8 04:29, 31 March 2013 (BST)

Hello, Maxwell. Indeed, we had the… pleasure of meeting last night. You may rest assured the Knights, and myself as well, do not recycle 'taunts'; each lesson is written specifically for the student at hand. Squadron 1111 is guilty of many kinds of ignorance, and I'm afraid zerging is one of them. Your group has had a long history of zerging, and even now, there are several of your listed members on the new Zerg Liste. Rick Fury and Blood Clown are merely two examples, with several others also under suspicion. Until Squadron 1111 steps up and stops tolerating zerging members, I'm afraid I cannot change my stance. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 07:29, 31 March 2013 (BST)

Hello, thankyou for responding, The 1111 leadership, insofar as it exists, does not zerg or condone it and if any of our members were, we would immediatly ostracise them, believe me on that. I can all but guarantee that Rick Fury isn't a zerg but I've never heard of Blood Clown, could you please link me his profile? Actually aside from one new player a couple of years ago who didn't seem to understand the rules(or english for that matter) I've never known S1111 to be involved in zerging in any way, though there does seem to be a rather dedicated group/zerg committed to spreading rumours to the contrary. If you would to link me to the Zerg Liste and how you would like us to prove that the group does not cheat it would be most helpful. That said, if any of the members do participate in zerging, I'll help you hunt them down myself. Regards Legion8 10:15, 31 March 2013 (BST)

In addition to what FX said, the Knights also hold S1111 accountable for their association with TZH. TZH, in addition to having engaged in zerging, is also guilty of nearly all other crimes of ignorance, meaning that they have been classified as "enemies of knowledge". We were content to treat S1111 no differently from other, typical groups (i.e. we were not preferentially targeting you), until S1111 chose to — without cause — insert itself into our dispute with TZH. Members of your group were observed killing our members, reviving and healing theirs, and engaging in slander regarding our group while in your HQ. In aiding them, S1111 has chosen to associate with known zergers while hindering us in our mission to educate or eliminate them. As such, S1111 is itself guilty of the crimes of Aiding the Enemy, Hindrance, and Slander and will be treated accordingly until they publicly renounce their ties to TZH, recant for their crimes, and take a proactive stance in discouraging such ignorant behavior among members of your own group and locals in your area. If you would like to discuss terms for such an arrangement, you are welcome to visit our forums and make such a request. Until then, members of your group will be treated as the enemies of knowledge that they are. IV PK 23:49, 31 March 2013 (BST)
It is as you said- 'leadership, insofar as it exists.' 1111 seems to have an incredibly lax structure, and it's no wonder all sorts of unscrupulous things happen when there are no proper safeguards against anarchy. There is a bit more concrete evidence than 'rumors' that 1111 members engaged in zerging. As requested, here is Blood Clown. While both he and Mr. Fury may claim to be innocent of the charges, I'm afraid I cannot take your word on it, since while you seem to be sincere, the 'just trust me' argument of a comrade doesn't hold much weight. If he is truly innocent, I encourage you to have him appeal to the Zerg Liste, so he may overcome such suspicions. And of course, zerging is not the only ignorance we have seen from your group, as the Assistant clarified.
Still, I am pleased at your offer to help stamp out zerging. The Knights also seek nothing but to improve Malton's survivors, so if 1111 truly purifies itself of such ignorant practices and stops aiding enemies of knowledge, then I'm sure we will find ourselves on much better terms. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 01:51, 1 April 2013 (BST)

Nice "Titles" page!

Haven't you completed "Keynote Speaker: complete a lecture series at the MCM (0/1)" though?--  Seekandyeshallfind    Binoculars12.jpg 12:13, 31 March 2013 (BST)


foxlion, there are things to discuss. please go to my pgg chat thing! it is --Anja Arnheim 07:54, 7 May 2013 (BST)

sig too tall

your PK sig looks a little big my friend.-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת11:24, 20 May 2013

I suspected it looked a little big, though I wasn't sure what was causing it since the basic code was the same as this sig. Perhaps the different font or borders. Thank you for pointing it out, I'll see if I can adjust it once I get back to a proper computer. --  FOXLION   Foxsilhouette.png 13:21, 20 May 2013 (BST)

Please make sure it includes a time stamp as well -- boxy 04:31, 23 May 2013 (BST)

HEY! HANDS OFF MAH KITTY! Because Harrison
That's why.

-- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch   COBRA!  אמת23:05, 5 July 2013