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[edit] Mudkipz
So, who can haz luv for mudkipz ? --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 18:23, 14 July 2009 (BST)
I'm in your Talk page, praising your Mudkipz. Rahrah T RRF! Brhr? BIC Lexy - 23:49, 23 July 2009 (BST)
All hail Mudkipz. Mudkipz be praised. --Bob Boberton TF / DW
00:05, 24 July 2009 (BST)
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[edit] Talk
[edit] suicidalangel
lolatsockpuppetclaims--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:42, 7 July 2009 (BST)
- lolwut? i dont get it --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 13:29, 8 July 2009 (BST)
- On DDR's talk page, how they were claiming that this perfectly harmless little bugger was a sock, when he was quite obviously a meat puppet. Poor guy. ;_; --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 16:42, 8 July 2009 (BST)
- Don't even start.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 05:15, 24 July 2009 (BST)
- You used to be funnier :~ --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 05:16, 24 July 2009 (BST)
- Except I've always had an issue with porn on the wiki.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 05:16, 24 July 2009 (BST)
- You used to be funnier :~ --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 05:16, 24 July 2009 (BST)
- Don't even start.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 05:15, 24 July 2009 (BST)
- On DDR's talk page, how they were claiming that this perfectly harmless little bugger was a sock, when he was quite obviously a meat puppet. Poor guy. ;_; --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 16:42, 8 July 2009 (BST)
[edit] Image Ark
This image is linked to in your image ark, perhaps you would be better off including Image:Sun2.jpg instead, as it's used elsewhere. Don't see a need for them both to be kept -- boxy talk • teh rulz 13:02 13 July 2009 (BST)
- thank you for spoting that. The image was changed --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 13:05, 13 July 2009 (BST)
[edit] Your archive Template
It says 2008 twice, where the second should be 2009 (I assume). I'm gonna change it to 2009, but if that's not on, you can change it back.--Yonnua Koponen T G P 16:52, 14 July 2009 (BST)
- oops. thank you --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 18:08, 14 July 2009 (BST)
- Not a problem.--Yonnua Koponen T G P 18:17, 14 July 2009 (BST)
[edit] Soft Warning
Errrrr I don't really remember how to word these so basically consider yourself "soft warned". I think you get another one of these before you start incurring actual escalations but I could be wrong. --CyberbobPOST HERE 11:11, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- Balls -- boxy talk • teh rulz 13:51 15 July 2009 (BST)
- hairy ones --CyberbobPOST HERE 13:54, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- nup, small hairless ones that haven't dropped yet :p -- boxy talk • teh rulz 14:22 15 July 2009 (BST)
- I'M SO ANGERY AT THAT CUTTING INSULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --CyberbobPOST HERE 14:30, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- My talk page is not your playground, bob. Only edit it for official reasons (adminstration stuff) or learn to be polite. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 14:43, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- yes i am the impolite one here...boxy's small hairless balls insult was an error of judgement that can be handwaved into oblivion by his defence of you --CyberbobPOST HERE 14:51, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- unlike yours, i can enjoy boxy unpoliteness. Now git out my lawn --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 14:52, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- you can enjoy his unpoliteness purely because of its target. prove me wrong. --CyberbobPOST HERE 14:54, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- why should i when you are right about this ? >:) --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 15:04, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- you can enjoy his unpoliteness purely because of its target. prove me wrong. --CyberbobPOST HERE 14:54, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- unlike yours, i can enjoy boxy unpoliteness. Now git out my lawn --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 14:52, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- yes i am the impolite one here...boxy's small hairless balls insult was an error of judgement that can be handwaved into oblivion by his defence of you --CyberbobPOST HERE 14:51, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- I'M SO ANGERY AT THAT CUTTING INSULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --CyberbobPOST HERE 14:30, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- nup, small hairless ones that haven't dropped yet :p -- boxy talk • teh rulz 14:22 15 July 2009 (BST)
- hairy ones --CyberbobPOST HERE 13:54, 15 July 2009 (BST)
I was bored okay... now you know me when I'm bored --CyberbobPOST HERE 16:17, 15 July 2009 (BST)
[edit] pker status
Hey hagnat i was referred to you by a member of the wiki. I was hoping that you could get a image made for me
Im trying to get a image that says In pker hands.That looks good. Im going to try to get it to be another mall status as to the ammount of pkers now days. It could meen fame for the pker group and for those who survive to stay away from that area or to go and kick pker ass lol. Could you get one resembling that image or you could make another one? thanks contact me on my talk page--Suffery <-- Thats me! 07:18, 15 July 2009 (BST)
- sadly, i am unable to make new images as i lost the sources for them. And by lost, i mean i have no clue in which computer or cd i had them stored and i have no time right now to look for them. You could try asking Zarneverfike as he did an awesome job for the ruined and rot revive images. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 12:22, 15 July 2009 (BST)
[edit] amazing
I don't care what you say. Unless we bumped you weekly, this will never be finished. Rather than do that though, I am asking you to at leased add a notice at the top telling users that his real userpage is at User:Amazing/2008. Users deserve to know what his page looked like before he got banned/you moved it. --ϑϑℜ 11:18, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- coincidently, i was just thinking about resuming work on this page this weekend :D --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 12:17, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- Yeah that's the problem, you think about it but you don't ever do it. Not that i actually care at all...--ALiM style, ya dig? 06:21, 21 July 2009 (BST)
- liez u no u kare--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 18:03, 21 July 2009 (BST)
- Yeah that's the problem, you think about it but you don't ever do it. Not that i actually care at all...--ALiM style, ya dig? 06:21, 21 July 2009 (BST)
[edit] Massive Image WHAM
Just an idea of what I had stirred in my mind when I was thinking about changing the background colour of the images. As you can see green for safe then getting more red as it gets worse. That was the main idea. I rather got carried away with this and soon it was "Wow, I have FONTS" and then "Hey, I can make the text all scratchy!" so this might be what the system would look like if I'd had a hand in it. Anyway, I'm figuring at least remaking the current images (close copies, no changes) so we can png-24 them for transparency. The examples above weigh in between 6-8KiB for the small versions, which is excellent since they're lossless and we gain full transparency support on those corners.
I also wanted the rot revive zed to have like 3 needles sticking out of him for even more laughs, didn't seem to work right sadly. --
RoosterDragon
19:48, 22 July 2009 (BST)
- The font on unknown seems to cope much better with the being-smaller-ing. --Mr. Borehamwood -Rosslessness -Wants a new city 19:59, 22 July 2009 (BST)
- imho, they draw too many attention to themselves. Must be the near-neon color palette you have chosen. The images must be simply decorative of the information, not a target of attention themslves. While mine you can have both text and image and be able to focus on either one, i think your would draw so much attention that the danger report will be hard to read. I also like to keep my works with the less amount of fonts possible, so it becomes easier to redraw things if i ever lose them (like what happened to the current ones) or become unable to be found if someone want to carry on with the work. You also put too much detail into something that shoul look cartoonish. And the needles dont look like a needle at all in the smaller versions.
- And I just noticed your work on the list of buildings danger levels... dood, wtf? you are really making what i wrote in your promotion bid completly valid! You are one hell of a coder, but you really seem to lack on aesthetics. Work on that.
- Well, it wont be fair if i dont praise you here: the rot revive concept is awesome... several nedles attached to a half-revived zombie would be awesome and funny --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 01:25, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Thanks for the input. I do realize I went overboard and whatnot on the detail, the faces particularly. That said, I disagree about the fonts. I probably could've stood to go without the scratchy effect but I think varying the fonts generally adds a touch of style. Also, if the images are just to present information then surly an underlying colour scheme people would recognize is a must? The current scheme has always struck me as being distinctly random. --
RoosterDragon
17:31, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- The current scheme was built over the previous one. I took the job of making a system that wouldnt work and which was not scalable into something that could meet these needs. That said, the colors were not my original choice, only the palette that would be used to pick them.
- About the fonts... i might have been a little excessive about them. Prolly because i try to follow the KISS philosophy. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 19:56, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Hagnat, don't you think it's time to drop the Crusty Old Man of The Wiki game and start talking to Rooster with a little more respect? Pretty much everyone else likes what he's done with it, get over it and move on. Nobody thinks any less of your work just because Rooster was able to improve on it a bit. --Cyberbob 20:12, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- ^--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 20:18, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- If there is one thing i learnt while i worked with graphical design is that things need to be kept simple and perfect. When someone ask for my opinion about a graphical thing, i am really anal about the quality of it, and only praise the work when i fell that there is little to nothing to be worked out. This is not something that i do only on the wiki, and its not the first time that i express my opinion to rooster in that manner. Contrary to what you think, i respect his work, which is why i think i need to be anal about this cuz i know that many of you will approve whatever comes foward without pushing his artistic skillz to the limit --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 20:22, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- "without pushing his artistic skillz to the limit" You really are an arrogant bastard. --Cyberbob 20:27, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- when it comes to things that i do for a living - and where i am constantly praised for my work - yes i am. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 20:29, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- If you're constantly praised for your work I guess it's hardly a surprise. --Cyberbob 20:32, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- when it comes to things that i do for a living - and where i am constantly praised for my work - yes i am. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 20:29, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- "without pushing his artistic skillz to the limit" You really are an arrogant bastard. --Cyberbob 20:27, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Hagnat, don't you think it's time to drop the Crusty Old Man of The Wiki game and start talking to Rooster with a little more respect? Pretty much everyone else likes what he's done with it, get over it and move on. Nobody thinks any less of your work just because Rooster was able to improve on it a bit. --Cyberbob 20:12, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- The new fonts own Hagnat, dunno what you're on about. --Cyberbob 17:34, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Thanks for the input. I do realize I went overboard and whatnot on the detail, the faces particularly. That said, I disagree about the fonts. I probably could've stood to go without the scratchy effect but I think varying the fonts generally adds a touch of style. Also, if the images are just to present information then surly an underlying colour scheme people would recognize is a must? The current scheme has always struck me as being distinctly random. --
These are superreallyawesome. Bright colours are good, they draw attention to the danger level which i think is a good thing, maybe people will be more inclined to update them now...--ALiM style, ya dig? 01:32, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- you just said the exact opposite of what i just said. Go die on a fire. lol --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 01:34, 23 July 2009 (BST)
Hey. I looked at what you did at Template:MallDangerLevels and you have a point, but I like the idea of what Rooster did, so I made the font size somewhere halfway between. --ϑϑℜ 02:47, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- it does not fit with the layout of MIC and look as ugly as hell. I gave some pointers to rooster both here and on his talk page, so please let him redo his work --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 03:07, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- It doesn't look ugly as hell, and has practically nothing to do with the style of MIC, it is just the text size for god's sake. But whatever. I'll leave with one last plug: User:Amazing. It looks fucking awful. I think I should just revert the whole thing. --ϑϑℜ 04:40, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Nah, it does need some rethinking, a few people have chipped in on my talk page. --
RoosterDragon
17:31, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Very little rethinking. I personally like the way they turned out.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 18:44, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Nah, it does need some rethinking, a few people have chipped in on my talk page. --
- It doesn't look ugly as hell, and has practically nothing to do with the style of MIC, it is just the text size for god's sake. But whatever. I'll leave with one last plug: User:Amazing. It looks fucking awful. I think I should just revert the whole thing. --ϑϑℜ 04:40, 23 July 2009 (BST)
[edit] Suburb info sigs
I only signed the pages because everyone before me had as well (might want to run this by the other's as well). I'll remove them next time I go in to work with the pages. On that note, ya think I'm clear to remove any other signatures on the pages?--~ Red Hawk One Talk | BIC | KRFR 02:50, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- yes, and leave the TOC at the beginning of the page. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 03:03, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Almost all of the pages have the TOC under the opening blurb. It would be alot easier to just leave it where it is.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | BIC | KRFR 03:05, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- urgh... if you have to edit a page (to remove sigs, for example) take the time to move the TOC above the opening blurb. Otherwise leave as it is. This will solve itself with time. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 03:11, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- this is an aesthetics choice. If you leave the opening blurb above the TOC, it wont be read (cuz people will ignore it together with the TOC) and then its useless. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 03:14, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Aestheticly, leaving it under the opening blurb would make it uniform with most other wiki pages (besides, it's not really telling you anything particularily important). It really comes down to which one a user thinks looks better- for instance, you prefer the TOC first, I prefer it after. I'm going to leave it as is for now, if you or someone else feels like coming through later and flipping them, I'm fine with that (just make sure the blurb stays italicized, please).--~ Red Hawk One Talk | BIC | KRFR 03:27, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- There is nothing wrong with the blurb being above the TOC. That's the default system for all wiki pages. It looks stupid otherwise. --ϑϑℜ 04:43, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Aestheticly, leaving it under the opening blurb would make it uniform with most other wiki pages (besides, it's not really telling you anything particularily important). It really comes down to which one a user thinks looks better- for instance, you prefer the TOC first, I prefer it after. I'm going to leave it as is for now, if you or someone else feels like coming through later and flipping them, I'm fine with that (just make sure the blurb stays italicized, please).--~ Red Hawk One Talk | BIC | KRFR 03:27, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- Almost all of the pages have the TOC under the opening blurb. It would be alot easier to just leave it where it is.--~ Red Hawk One Talk | BIC | KRFR 03:05, 23 July 2009 (BST)
[edit] Religious Repect Policy
I am giving up on the policy. I have relized that with all cemetaries as RP's, there is no need for all churches. Also, most churches are very well powered, barricaded, and worked on safehouses. asking them to risk all their work to help zombies is too much. Some churches already due what my policy suggests by themselves.And I screwed up the template too much.
If you like my policy, why don't you put the supporter template on your user page? You will need to put it at the bottom of your page,or under any text and other templates you have, because of some computer code glitch, that occurs in many other templates I find here, it will put everything below it inside the template. Copy {{ReligiousRespectPolicy}}and paste it at the bottom (or neat bottom) of your page, and it will turn out like this:
{{ReligiousRespectPolicy}}
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Justinbronze (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.
- yeah... turns out i am a zed and a pker, so its not gonna fly. And remember to always sign your messages to other users. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 00:10, 3 August 2009 (BST)
[edit] oi
of all the shit i've done, how is that edit propaganda? I actually did that. Opened wikipedia by mistake and searched 2 Cool finding Too Cool and being confused for a split second. I'm putting it back up. I'll remove the links if that's your problem with it but you can't really explain that without the example.--ALiM style, ya dig? 01:41, 11 August 2009 (BST)
- The problem with it is it doesn't happen if 'You've been playing Urban Dead too much', it happens if 'You're too obsessed with 2 Cool', which affect about 1 of the UDWiki population. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:29, 11 August 2009 (BST)
- Sigh. If you weren't so busy being on a vendetta you'd see it is actually a 'You spend too much time on the UDWiki'. Any example will do. Go find another one where the page you search for redirects to a page that exists on both wikis and i'll be satisfied. That was just the one i actually did...--ALiM style, ya dig? 00:25, 12 August 2009 (BST)
- You have nerve to say I'm on a vendetta against you, and not the other sysops. And no, don't you dare try and worm your way out of being guilty of mass 2 cool advertising, even if it is true, it's just a case of crying wolf and you shouldn't be the least bit surprised that someone's complained about it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:39, 12 August 2009 (BST)
- I love mass 2 cool advertising and am "guilty" of it, if you want to put it that way. However this actually happened. You seem to be totally ignoring this actually incident and instead just focusing on the broad 'oh well he does love to spam 2 Cool so this must be a case of that', hence vendetta. Feel free to prove me wrong by changing your mind again.--ALiM style, ya dig? 08:01, 12 August 2009 (BST)
- You have nerve to say I'm on a vendetta against you, and not the other sysops. And no, don't you dare try and worm your way out of being guilty of mass 2 cool advertising, even if it is true, it's just a case of crying wolf and you shouldn't be the least bit surprised that someone's complained about it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:39, 12 August 2009 (BST)
- Sigh. If you weren't so busy being on a vendetta you'd see it is actually a 'You spend too much time on the UDWiki'. Any example will do. Go find another one where the page you search for redirects to a page that exists on both wikis and i'll be satisfied. That was just the one i actually did...--ALiM style, ya dig? 00:25, 12 August 2009 (BST)
- wow. you are a really SOB to come to my talk page complaining about my removal of your propaganda. Even making it look like you are the one in harms way. Tell me, J3D, how many users actually care about your tiny tinie little group ? How many of them tried to look for it while using wikipedia, and facing the same situation you said you had ? I'd say that that not even Nallan, the other guy in your group, had this problem. So no, this situation of yours does not qualify as you know you have been playing ud too much... its a you know you have been fellatoing your own group too much, and no one cares about that. btw, why is your gorup linked to Category:Families of Malton if its not a true family of malton ? --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 03:43, 12 August 2009 (BST)
- Because we are a fucking family of Malton. What the fuck is a 'true family of malton' anyway? It's all fictional, a concept you don't seem to have fully grasped, i'll put that down to ESL. In other news. I have stated that i'm fine with someone putting up a different example however unlike most stuff on that page, this is one thing that actually did happened after playing too much UD.--ALiM style, ya dig? 08:01, 12 August 2009 (BST)
[edit] Templates
Thanks for the info.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pyxzer (talk • contribs) 16:30, 11 August 2009.
[edit] Comment
Whoops, sorry about that. I missed your name at the top somehow. Cyberbob Talk 04:26, 12 August 2009 (BST)
[edit] duped image
I've found another image used in your ark that is duplicated in Conn's archive. Wanna replace it so we can get rid of one? -- boxy talk • teh rulz 13:40 23 August 2009 (BST)
- its all yours --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 04:08, 24 August 2009 (BST)
Same idea: Image:Is-19-.jpg is a dupe of Image:Raven.jpg which I saved from an overwritten revision of Image:Example.jpg a while back. I figure kill Raven and use the Is-19- one instead? --
RoosterDragon
04:25, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Actually, the opposite. Is-19- is clear for speedy deletion. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 04:27, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Yeah, but I figured on keeping the original upload data and just fixing the two links. --
RoosterDragon
04:31, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Meh. The important is the image, not its original timestamps. Why have the trouble of editing two pages when the job is already done... but since having this discussion already invalidates what i am trying to prevent, feel free to delete any of the pics and fix the links accordingly :P --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 04:35, 27 August 2009 (BST)
- Yeah, but I figured on keeping the original upload data and just fixing the two links. --
[edit] move/explaination
Sorry about that, my PC has an auto-shut off when I'm asleep. Still needing help? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:16, 3 September 2009 (BST)
- aye. i need User:Hagnat/image_ark to be moved to User:Hagnat/ImageArk, and User:Hagnat/My Gallery to User:Hagnat/MyGallery. I would go through a/mr, but i find it such a pain in the arse to use.
- and i want you to explain how a picture of myself can be categorized as a character image :P --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 03:20, 3 September 2009 (BST)
- Cause you're such a character ;D. Want the redirects to be kept on those moves? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:27, 3 September 2009 (BST)
- you can leave the redirects, thanks. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 03:31, 3 September 2009 (BST)
- Cause you're such a character ;D. Want the redirects to be kept on those moves? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:27, 3 September 2009 (BST)
[edit] ye
it's been slow all right. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 04:32, 30 September 2009 (BST)
- things usually were slow in these months... narcm, april and may, september, october and november... i figure it has some relation with schools and unis being taken more seriously during these months. Or it could be a simple case of UD losing interest as a whole, but that is something people say every year. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 21:27, 2 October 2009 (BST)
- You may be one to find himself interested in a graph I made a while ago and haven't updated for a month or so. Image:Contribs.jpg. More or less confirms your theory. For the Aussie students anyway. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:42, 15 October 2009 (BST)
[edit] irc
I was at work. On all the points, I read them, thanks for giving a piece, was good to hear. As for the bid you mentioned, I'll be happy to make a point on your behalf. Good luck with the wireless problems. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 07:52, 21 October 2009 (BST)
[edit] De-Escalation
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--Yonnua Koponen T G P 23:41, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- hum... ok. thanks. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 16:51, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
[edit] The Tactical Resource Points template
There is a talk about changing the Tactical Resource Points template. You know, the one you made. And I haven't seen you comment on it yet. One major change is removing Fire Stations, and adding Factories and Auto Repairs.
We could use some comments from the original creator, and perhaps advices on aesthetics as well (removing Fire Stations would throw of color balance and such.) Maybe you should join in the conversation. -- Kittithaj 19:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- sorry 'mate, but i am not that much into discussions lately, specially rework on templates that were created back when the game was young and we were all merrier. Anyway, IMHO, do NOT remove fire statntios, as they are a far more important and histrical resource point than warehouses and auto shops will ever be. Aside from that, i have nothing to add to this discussion. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 19:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
