User talk:Jorm

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Older stuff moved to the archive

Nice to see you on the wiki... --LibrarianBrent 04:25, 3 March 2006 (GMT)

Me being a retard

I wanted to apologize for my rant on the deletions page. I got carried away, and it had nothing to do with you - it was just a bad day IRL. I know that is not an excuse, so I just wanted to man-up here. I do agree with you, the two things are not related whatsoever - however, I don't think the page should be deleted because of it. I also find the Denial of Service like attacks that the editor is suggesting against the IRC channels is abhorrent - that should be edited off the page for sure - and I would support you in an arbitration against the user for posting that information. --Ryiis 19:08, 13 September 2007 (BST)


Not sure what your plans are, or what contacts you may have - but in the human counterattack, Yagoton has become the base of resistance for the North-Northeast area of the map. Due to attempting to hold the NT buildings in surrounding suburbs, I'm not able to amass a force as I usually would to take back Bale Mall and the NT buildings subsequently, before flushing out the harmanz and returning the order of that section of the map to complete red. If MOB's free or if you are able to pull strings with any kind of organized horde of some kind, the fight in Yagoton's probably one of the most important fights going on right now in Malton. --Donathin 18:33, 13 September 2007 (BST)

SteamFront Stuff

(Moved from UDWiki talk:Administration/Policy Discussion/Banning Policy)

Had no trouble registering though. Hope you don't mind. When is it going live?-- Vista  +1  19:23, 17 September 2007 (BST)

Yeah, people can make accounts and such. Uhm, I don't anticipate it going live for a couple months. I just rebuilt the underlying mapping engine entirely (to handle terrain altitude and modification (e.g., buy a patch of lush grasslands, raze it into bare earth, till it to tilled soil, plant appleseeds to make an apple orchard - or just fuck all that and build a cottage), for instance, and am working on a bunch of "core" things (like trying to do realistic weather). I'm also working on the mapping tools themselves (the version of Magrathea I wrote for NW is inadequate: NW is 21,454 squares with about 6,000 interiors, while steamfront is 7,272,000 external squares with an arbitrary (yet indeterminate) number of squares used by building interiors, dungeons, caves, etc.) So, uh, I'm using photoshop as my mapping tool.--Jorm 19:40, 17 September 2007 (BST)
Is it action point based as NW? or just continual playable? either way I'm probably available for testing if you don't have enough volunteers already...-- Vista  +1  19:56, 17 September 2007 (BST)
Continually playable, but you'll have a timelimit per day depending on your account type. It's actually a clever system that uses "sand grains" as "time currency".--Jorm 19:59, 17 September 2007 (BST)
smart. So I'll finally have to crack open my wallet to spend time playing the mmorpg's in this little corner of the internet.-- Vista  +1  20:04, 17 September 2007 (BST)
We're a bit away from any type of "open" testing yet, but when it's open, there will be an announcement, you betcha.--Jorm 20:19, 17 September 2007 (BST)
I'm busy reading the wiki right now, It seems very interesting, but I've always been a fan of steampunk (Dwarfs with guns!). be sure to make the announcement here as well though.-- Vista  +1  20:22, 17 September 2007 (BST)
I am thinking about running a Lexicon game on it to help flesh out a lot of the backstory. There's about 50 pages of stuff and discussion on that wiki that aren't public right now (SFWiki has a "hide this namespace from non group members" modification), but there are places where I think fresh ideas might help. Dunno yet; too many lexicons die on the vine.--Jorm 20:32, 17 September 2007 (BST)
lexicons are to dependent on group collaboration, I think it's easier just to let people you're confident about write entire articles and then just redact them to fit in your framework. that way if somebody drops out or doesn't follow schedules well the rest doesn't suffer. just make sure that they know that their entire article may be axed or heavily altered beyond recognition.-- Vista  +1  20:51, 17 September 2007 (BST)

Ridleybank Danger Report

Probably best to just leave it until he logs off. I doubt he's even knows what you mean by saying he's screwing up the page.--Karekmaps?! 20:28, 21 September 2007 (BST)

And you know what? Instead of being short to me like this and assuming I should somehow instinctively know things when I don't, you could actually tell me where these instructions are so I can read them and not repeat mistakes. Adrian Steiner 14:43, 21 September 2007 (CST)
that's true. i think it's time for someone to start posting these instructions in everu suburb dangerreports... but allow me to say that i am in ridley and it's not even near the point of having its danger level downgraded. -People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 20:52, 21 September 2007 (BST)
I can assume that you've at least tried to perform due-diligence first - and you haven't. If you don't know how to do an appendectomy don't stick your hands in a patient's guts. It's that simple. Since you're obviously only trying to troll the danger level down for some sort of trenchie crap, I don't feel the need to coddle you. The instructions are there and (unsurprisingly) are easy to find if you actually try looking.--Jorm 20:56, 21 September 2007 (BST)
What we had here was a problem of communication. I was reading the danger report page, which included no specifics to Ridleybank itself while you meant the suburb talk page, which did. At any rate, I think it's very easy to sit there and judge. I'll admit I was in a bad mood and being stubborn, but, God forbid people make mistakes because otherwise they're just idiots and noobs, right? People like you are why others don't ask for help anymore. Feel free to flame away in retaliation. I care not. Adrian Steiner 11:50, 22 September 2007 (CST)


I'm not sure if you were talking to me there, but if you were, I'd like to say that I totally agree with you that this is not a decision that's within my power to make. The reason I commented on that case wasn't to boss the mods around or to proclaim that this is or is not vandalism, it was to make sure that the people who do have that power to make the decision have the relevant information more clearly laid out. --Toejam 00:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks from me in Rhodenbank

Hey Jorm, I just saw you bust into St. Alban's and I wanted to thank you. I don't know if you were in the Devonshire building when I stopped by to tip those 17 zombies about the buffet awaiting them inside St. Alban's, but I appreciate you taking the time to enjoy chewing on all of those undeveloped brains. --Twister1680 05:35, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

A question

Do the nexuswar wiki and the barhah forums suffer from the same levels of negative interpersonal interactions as this wiki? And if they don't, what do you think is the reason(s)? --Toejam 14:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I do not believe so. The NW Wiki definitely does not. I have a host of reasons why I think that is, but they fall into the following:
  • NWWiki is tightly controlled. There is no red-tape or beauracracy; it is ruled with an iron fist. There are no "Sysops"; they are administrators, and they have full authority to ban, warn, delete, move, or whatever without being required to swim through a sea of rules.
  • All wiki admins are appointed by me. There are no popularity contests.
  • There are official forums for Nexus War. This has moved the primary mechanism of player interaction from the wiki to the forums (in UD, the closest thing to an "official forum" is the wiki)
  • The NW forums have a series of moderators who, just like the wiki, have full autonomy. I have granted "Ultimate Powah" to a few individuals that I trust, and then they promote moderators as they see fit.
  • There is a "hidden" forum on the NW Forums where players can be mean and bitchy, but otherwise we try to keep it to a minimum in the public forums.
  • The forums at tend to be group-specific forums. Thus, they are policed by their own membership, who don't want to "shit where they eat." Further, the moderation staff there, as well, has full autonomy.

This is not, however, me saying that the approach I have taken is better than Kevan's; it is merely different. There are a lot of headaches involved in running forums. I fully understand why K. has avoided them.--Jorm 20:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, interesting answer. --Toejam 17:15, 1 April 2008 (BST)

Regarding your Policy Suggestion

I happen to find it very amusing. In fact it brightened up my day. But the stupidity and frivolity of many of the people here frustrates me to no end. It seems to me that many users here use vandal banning as an excuse to tattle and stir up excitement, rather than actually benefit anyone else. In any case I'm sorry that you got dragged into a case like that over trying to add a little humor. Illusionist 07:55, 21 May 2008 (BST)

Help needed over malicious link

Hi Jorm, I have a problem that a malicious link was added to the wiki-news template, which you removed. I had already tried unsuccesfully to delete this link, as the person who put it on, User A helpless little gnome had replaced it. I then edited it to make it harmless. Since then User: SirArgo has accussed me of wiki vandalism and putting this malicious link on in the first place, which I did not do. The history will vindicate me: Since then User: A helpful little gnome has put that malicious link back on the template, and locked it from editing (supposedly to protect from vandalism) What can I do to resolve this situation? I was trying to protect others from this person's actions. --Zuton 21:36, 18 August 2008 (BST)

Problem seems resolved now, User:SirArgo has noticed the history and realised that User:A Helpful Little Gnome is causing problems, and is trying to delete the accusation of wiki vandalism against him. Sorry for bothering you. --Zuton 21:44, 18 August 2008 (BST)

Sorry, ignore above, it isn't User:A Helpful Little Gnome but some malicious person who's creating multiple accounts.--Zuton 23:05, 18 August 2008 (BST)


We are ready to roll. You're up first. -- Cheese 10:55, 23 September 2008 (BST)

Candy Heart

Vday BARHAH.jpg Valentines Day
Fiffy has given Jorm a candy heart because he's the Prophet of the True Barhah.

--Fiffy 04:37, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


Your header wasn't there when I started editing. Maybe I spoke too soon! :P ᚱᛖᚢᛖᚾᚨᚾ 06:33, 4 June 2010 (BST)

Are you running as a candidate for the Zombiecratic Party, or are you running as your own party. If you're running for the ZC party primary, you can just have your name as the header title, like Mis has done for the Harmanative. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:56, 4 June 2010 (BST)

I am running for the Barhah party. I'm not really running, either. I already won.--Jorm 16:30, 4 June 2010 (BST)
Right, sorry, assumed you were going for Zombiecratic. I moved your party to the right place on the page.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:16, 4 June 2010 (BST)
"Major" means those two parties. That's how it was three years ago, that's how it is now.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:30, 4 June 2010 (BST)
Feel free to get your panties in a twist about this. --Jorm 19:31, 4 June 2010 (BST)
Meh. Not really. Just trying to show you why you're wrong.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:32, 4 June 2010 (BST)
Come back when you're not trying to teach your grandmother to suck eggs. I have to go into a meeting now with some physicist dudes so I'll revert you later.--Jorm 19:33, 4 June 2010 (BST)
Can't wait. See you then.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:34, 4 June 2010 (BST)


An arbitration case is open, your input is needed. --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 21:48, 4 June 2010 (BST)

Yeah. I don't care.--Jorm 21:49, 4 June 2010 (BST)
If you give no input it will be decided without you.--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 21:51, 4 June 2010 (BST)
Drop by, agree to me ruling on it, it'll all be fixed in like two minutes. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee 21:58, 4 June 2010 (BST)

I have to say, this has been quite a fun part of the election. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:05, 4 June 2010 (BST)

Template:Quote. It takes up the whole page regardless, hence the indented signature after it. So, I'll simply mimic the same thing this awesome guy in IRC said:

Jorm said:
[12:29] <jorm> check your indents, asshole.

Since being fail about comment direction is the theme of the day, can I assume he was talking about you? Cause that'd certainly make a lot of sense. --

03:34, 7 June 2010 (BST)


Stop hand.png

Please do not vandalise this wiki. Continuing this behaviour may lead to your editing privileges being revoked. -- boxy talkteh rulz 08:45 7 June 2010 (BST)

Oh, fuck that. You know I'm right.--Jorm 08:46, 7 June 2010 (BST)
What exactly are you right about? Splashing your name across the top of the page (outside the normal page area) isn't the way to deal with whatever you think is wrong with the page. Can you please stop with the edit war on A/VB as well. It's been moved to the talk page, so you are getting to respond to the insults, it's just that it's not needed on the front page -- boxy talkteh rulz 08:49 7 June 2010 (BST)
I'm gonna leave the mayor page alone, since that's a crap issue that I started just to start shit and you and I both know that. I'm right there, too, but that's a quick and easy one that anyone with a brain can figure (e.g., if you're going to have a vote, give everyone equal share and stop with bullshit manipulation).
The A/VB thing is very fucking simple. A/VB is all about drama and "charged" accusations. 90% of cases are settled by the bullshit and crap statements made by people on the core page that then "get moved to talk" and that's fucking bullshit. If you're going to warn me, going to ban me, I want all of it on the page. I want it there forever, and I want it part of the fucking record. So I'll continue to revert until a) it stays or b) you permaban me.
I'm not fucking kidding, either. I'm not going to let someone call me a 'shitbrain' and have that part of the "shadow record". It's either part of the full record or its none of it. So this little drama is just going to go and go and go. I want this negative stuff on my record.
If it isn't, we're going to go through this tedious process of "warning to 1 day ban to 48 hour ban to 1 week ban to twenty steps to permaban" and then you'll have permabanned the one person who has given more than anyone to this game.
Boxy, you know I'll go there, too. And you know I don't step up to the plate unless I think there's something to swing at.--Jorm 08:57, 7 June 2010 (BST)
I personally couldn't give a stuff either way, if what has been said stays on the front page, as long as any continuation is done on the talk page. We don't need pages of back and forth insults and 3rd party sniping filling up the main page. That is why people move these discussions to the talk page, people get the freedom to have their say, without those involved needing to respond, or even read it, unless they want to -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:04 7 June 2010 (BST)
BTW, anything on the talk page is archived with main A/VB content, so such bullshit is still on record -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:05 7 June 2010 (BST)
Oook! You versioned me.
I know you don't give a shit. I don't really, either, and you know that. But you also know that I'm a person of integrity, regardless of what people say or think about me. And I will never, ever, EVER, allow someone to call me a "shitbrain" and have it fade into the fog of archive. If I'm to be reprimanded for this - (and let's be truthful, I'm being reprimanded for being irritated at someone calling me a 'shitbrain') - I want it on the official record. Not on a talk page, not on my own page. I want it on the official Urban Dead wikipedia page. So there cannot ever be confusion in the future.--Jorm 09:11, 7 June 2010 (BST)
wikipedia page? What the fuck are you on? -- 09:13, 7 June 2010 (BST)
Your full of yourself up to the point that your blind to your own ignorance. If you don't want to follow the rules then you will be happily perma'ed. Oh, and btw, you're wrong. Oh, and stop saying that you don't "care" or "give a shit", you obviously do looking at the amount of shit your trying to stir up.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 10:12, 7 June 2010 (BST)


Sorry about the constant reverts earlier. I was just trying to maintain the admin pages in the way that I'd always seen them kept. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:28, 7 June 2010 (BST)

We're groovy, dude, don't worry about it. Just be aware that if I start shit I have a point. --Jorm 09:54, 7 June 2010 (BST)


I'll merge my party in to yours if you make me your running mate. :P That'll be seven votes to take you in to the lead.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:25, 30 June 2010 (BST)

You really think that should be allowed halfway through an election, where those 7 people voted for you specifically, not Jorm? -- 08:37, 30 June 2010 (BST)
But... but... :( Ah well, I was joking anyway. I highly doubt Jorm will see this any time during the next year.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:09, 30 June 2010 (BST)
Ohh kay. He will, he comes in some times. -- 15:37, 30 June 2010 (BST)
Mudkip. ^^ --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:39, 30 June 2010 (BST)
Are you willing to embrace eternal undeath? If so, we can talk.--jorm 17:50, 30 June 2010 (BST)
I do not believe I would be allowed to commence in any discussions on the subject of whether or not I could commence in any discussions.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:56, 30 June 2010 (BST)
So, then. F̰e͙͉̝̻̻͝a͉̅̓̈́̽̾͒̎r̷͆͐͑ is yo̅ͤ̋u̽ͯ͊r m͏͔a̛̮̺̗̭͜s͙͢t̴̸͉̰̻̝̥̹̻e͏̬̙̹̞̳̻͈r̡̺̙̙͓̠̰̯̱͞.̸̡̠̱ Embr͜a͝͏c̡҉e the B̸̡͈͔̳͖͍̻͘͜Ą͞͏̡̨̱͓̦̮̗̘̲̼ͅṚ̗̣̞̣̠̰̖͍̤̮̬̥͓̺̥̟̖̕͞ͅH͏̷̡̢̱̘͙̯̫̩͖̭ͅĄ̨͢͡͏̼̗̫̱̼̼͇̭͇̞̯̰̗H̀͘͏̰̞̫͕̱.̴̢̢͟҉̰͎̗̖͈͓̭̬̰--jorm 18:03, 30 June 2010 (BST)


Let's get this party started! - Poodle of Doom 23:25, 3 July 2010 (BST)

Warning (2)

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Please do not vandalise community pages with propaganda and group advertisements. Continuing this behaviour may result in having your editing privs revoked. As your vandal data currently stands this is your last warning. --

13:42, 6 July 2010 (BST)

This ruling has, for now, been overturned, and so you have not recieved a second warning.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:38, 7 July 2010 (BST)
Seconded, the ruling has been overturned. I apologise Jorm, I thought your edit was a clear cut act of textbook vandalism but it turns out there was more to the edit than I had realised at the time. Again, apologies for this misunderstanding. -- 09:21, 10 July 2010 (BST)