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My u r a busy boy. tried to fix it but too much whiskey. Try again 2morrow. --Celt Mac �ireann 20:16, 10 Dec 2005 (GMT) P.S a little cluttered. Needs organisation.

I have responded to your message in my discussion area.--Grim s 16:57, 6 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Mr Grim S, Thank you,--Matthew-Stewart 17:33, 6 Nov 2005 (GMT)
And again--Grim s 18:01, 6 Nov 2005 (GMT)
And again...--Grim s 02:15, 7 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Same here. --Spellbinder 19:20, 7 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Mr Spellbinder, thank you,--Matthew-Stewart 22:08, 7 Nov 2005 (GMT)

You forgot to vote Suggestions#Change_Diagnosis_to_Survivor-only_skill (this link will not work tomarrow)--Spellbinder 21:43, 17 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Katthew, I am the leader of Dulston Defense Death Squad I notice that the aims of The Penny Heights OGs are very similar. I notice you are the leader of the parent organization.--Matthew-Stewart 17:29, 9 Nov 2005 (GMT)

- As far as I'm concerned, groups can edit their own group pages to make whatever declarations they choose, and people who are not members of said groups can ask them to change but should not actually edit their page. If what they say is actually abusive, the mods will speak to them for that. As is, nobody should mess with someone else's group page.--'STER 01:31, 21 Nov 2005 (GMT)

It was not Vandalism, it was the removal of offensive information. The two are completely different, and i was well within my rights to do so. --Grim s 03:19, 22 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Grim, I would note that you cut out a moderator's post saying if you are not a member of the group you shouldn't edit someone else's group page and if it is actually abusive the moderator will do it. I put the moderator's post back--Matthew-Stewart 03:44, 22 Nov 2005 (GMT)

M-S, please do not wipe talk pages. It is considered extremely rude. If you wish to "clean up" a talk page, please archive the extraneous discussion, do not wipe it in it's entirety. -- Odd Starter 22:36, 22 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Oh, and just one question, while you're watching - any particular reason why you've placed the list here instead of a link to it on your webpage? I'm not actually claiming you should take it down, but I do prefer not to ban users if I can at all avoid it. Linking to a copy of the list on your website would seem a simple compromise, since apparently Grim only wants it off the wiki... -- Odd Starter

My website is a geocities site and I am currently using a knoppix operating system making it not possible to paste into my geocities site, I have to type everything by hand making large posts or frequently updated items impractical. Also my website just exists to point people to the Wiki page and post the broad concepts of the group. (here is the link http://www.geocities.com/anarch_outpost/3Ds ) Also I would like it to be easily referenced as it is meant to be a resource for the whole Dulston suburb. As is the brain rotter list this is meant to help the survivors of Dulston more effectively play the game by identifying threats. If you deem it is the only responsible course of action I will work on moving it, however I think it good resource for Dulston players to know who poses a threat to the security of Dulston. --Matthew-Stewart 23:16, 22 Nov 2005 (GMT)

But we DONT pose a threat when human and your list is prime griefing material, as many wll only see our names when we are human. I know you have a forum, shove it there! If your claim to be against griefers has any basis in reality whatsoever, you will take down the list and you will keep it off the wiki. I have a responsibility to my group to protect it from griefers such as yourself, and to protect the reputation of my groups members when slandered by people such as yourself. If you are having problems cutting and pasting, go visit an internet cafe and do the stuff there. --Grim s 23:56, 22 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Also you has been very rude, vandilized our Wiki, threatened, and called me and my group names. I have become unsympathetic to you, however I will take the responsible course of action. If the moderator says it would me irresponsible to leave the list where it is, I will move it. Why you are upset isn't because what I say is untrue, (because it is true) you are upset because it is strategically disadvantagous to your goals of "Who Wants to Destroy Dulston". The our personal forum is not an easy reference site for most, and you know that.--Matthew-Stewart 00:19, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Matthew you are not exactly innocent yourself. I saw you wipe the discussion page and I saw it when Odd Starter reverted it back and told you NOT to do that again. Also if I made a list and claimed very negative, generic, unproven, and uninformed reasons for the names listed, and you were on it...you would be upset! You are telling your group that it is OKAY to kill these people, zombie or human. That isn't right and it isn't true. You can't go around saying that your list is true and that, that is why grim is upset if you haven't provided any information to back that claim up. Mind you if you put my zombie character on that list and kill her when she is a human, not only is that PKing and you will be reported and hunted down by many bounty hunters, it is plain wrong. You are becoming a PK group and is that what you want? Seriously what is the point of this list? It seems to me that you have to come to terms with what you are saying. Are you telling everyone it is OKAY to kill human characters even though they fight along side and defend humans when they get revived by YOUR people? When my zombie character got revived, and mind you she has already been accused at spying, she quickly got inside and started looking for a weapon to help defend the humans she is currently with. She isn't going to kill her own kind and thus that is how I play the game. You said that if you are on the list you are doing something right, but yet you group these "right" people with zergers, spies, and other unproven reasons and then say to take them out no matter what. Yeah, I wonder why anyone would be upset. Really, it isn't so mysterious. --Jacquie 07:07, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)
I removed slanderous, offensive and hypocritical material from your wiki. You have really gotten on my nerves, hence the fact i have not exactly been polite recently. A horde of 30 zombies cannot destroy a suburb. You need at least 70, preferably 120. It is all a bit of a laugh and having fun. You are spoiling that fun for our members, including one of your group pking a member of mine today.
Putting it on your own forum is perfect, as it means that only those who care enough about your little group will be exposed to the filth and may get in on your hypocritical griefing, rather than telling the whole fucking suburb to pk us on sight for your slanderous remarks. Not only that, but i cant delete it there. Say whatever you like on your own webspace, but keep your slander off the wiki where the foolish will encounter it, and start shooting. --Grim s 03:19, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Hey, heres an idea matty! Why dont you show how my group can possibly be a threat to you guys when revived (Except by pking you and your guild, as they have started doing it to us with the Pking of Jack Destructs Character this morning by Stu Redman, and as such, it counts, on our part, as self defence.), and then i will stop deleting your list.

Or better yet, you can stop being an imbecile and post the list on your forum so that passers by dont get sucked into your slanderous lies about my group and the people who are a part of it, then start shooting us!

Heres another brilliant idea: Why dont you stop griefing us. You claim to be against griefing, yet you are directly supporting and taking part in it with your list, and the actions that happen as a result of the list (Which we got on through no fault of our own). --Grim s 06:50, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Obviously you haven't looked too closely at the "proof", it also leads to the reasonable conclusion that Jack Eractic is a zombie sympathizer because he has the names of zombie horde in his contact list. Nice try covering it up, but since he is a member of a zombie horde I know who are on his contact list. --Matthew-Stewart 07:25, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Renowned survivor Maggy Smith has the zombies Petrosjko, Serena Darkrose and Gorbonzo on her contacts list. Does that make her a Zombie sympathiser? Most people at Caiger mall have Petrosjko on thier lists, does that make them Zombie sympathisers? You are building a house of cards while standing on thin ice here. When we are dead, we are part of the horde. When we are alive, we act in our own self interests. What part of that cant you get through your skull? You are murdering and griefing innocents. Remove your fucking list. --Grim s 07:39, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Those people are not known members of a zombie horde, which coincidentally was planning to raid that very NT building according to your discussion on the "Who Wants to Destroy Dulston" forum thread... Strange coincidence indeed... A survivor member of a horde in the same behind the barricades sieged by the zombie members... I wonder what he might be doing there... as long as you insist on playing coy I thought I would join in--Matthew-Stewart 07:51, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)
SHE was closing doors and punching zombies you dickhead. Look at the Drunken Dead Wiki, especially the part where it says NO SPIES. If you look at my track record on the forum you will see that i believe spying to be not only lame, but unfun and pathetic, and using Zombie spies in the Drunken Dead is punishable by ejection from the horde. And maybe they WOULDNT have been human IF THEY HADNT BEEN REVIVED!
Once again Matty fails to justify... --Grim s 07:56, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Matthew, having a list of names posted on the wiki with generic reasons does NOT prove anything! I play Maggy Smith and I have quite a few zombies on my contacts list and I have an official Axes High UDTool list and that has a lot of RRF names on it. Does that make Maggy a zombie sympathiser? Her goal is to kill zombies and yes she has died ONCE and yes she was a zombie and yes she played a zombie. However, if you knew ANYTHING about Maggy Smith you would know that she frequently organizes, recruits people, and kills zombies. I mean she hacked into grim's zombie today and is currently healing and fighting as a human. Matthew you can't honestly keep this up. Your reasons just don't make any sense! Perhaps you are not understanding how people play the game. Proof is screenshots, reasons, documentation to back it up. You have nothing, but a death list. See the picture I am painting? Besides you said to terminate these people no matter what. If you are a human group and you target humans, then you my friend are a PKer.
(EDIT: This conversation was moved to Jacquie's discussion page and misunderstandings were and are being worked out)Also HOW DARE you call my zombie a spy! She is currently looking for a weapon so she can defend sorry ass people like yourself! She got revived and has no skills as a zombie or a human. What the hell is she suppose to do? Stand outside and not fight the zombies because Matthew says she is a spy? NO! If you actually READ the forums then you will see a user name JACQUIE who is NOT giving out ANY information about ANYTHING regarding a NT building which, I might add, was ALREADY under attack. She left that building, after being REVIVED, so she could FIND a weapon. Also note that she was revived once before and she tried her best to protect the humans she was with! Now, you better back up and start apologizing. For you sir have cross my path and I don't take kindly to that! --Jacquie 08:04, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

How dare I? Well I don't have to "dare" because reasonable conclusions aren't something one must dare to. Now I am not saying that your character is a zombie spy but it is undeniable that the circumstnces are extremely suspect. I am sorry your character fell into a such a situation if it is indeed merely the wheels of misfortune playing its bitter tune, however holding grudges and posting people on a bounty list for doing the logical and reasonable thing isn't a good way to react. Your character is a known member of a zombie horde, found at the site of a zombie attack, the reasonable conclusion is?: ______________________. Exactly. So there should be no reason to hold a grudge or find fault. I hope you understand there is nothing personal to playing a game where there are two teams playing against each other. There is much talk of seeing it from your side's point of view, I do, I really understand. However I don't feel you are returning the courtesy.--Matthew-Stewart 08:29, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Also your character wasn't killed for being a zombie spy, that is a misconception as that isn't why Jack Erratic is on the list, Jack Erratic is on the list because he is a member of a hive mind.--Matthew-Stewart 08:34, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Matthew I am going to reply on that page you created for me under Jacquie. Just FYI. This page is getting kind of cluttered. --Jacquie 08:58, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)


I updated your kill list to put in a few more who deserve to be there. I figutre that if you wont remove it, i may as well add absolutely everyone who deserves to be on it. Congrats on being the first group to have a shitlist 500 names long :D --Grim s 08:50, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

My advice: Appraise your own actions. (actually that is always good advice)--Matthew-Stewart 08:54, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Um..I'm not sure if this is where this goes, but I posted a reply on my talk..thingy, page. --Jacquie 09:11, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

New reply...*note you can delete these messages Matthew once you check my talk page. This way it doesn't clutter the page up for you. --Jacquie 09:46, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Just read your e-mail. Thanks. I have a cold so I am going to act a right sarcastic backstard to everyone. --Andrew McM 21:21, 26 Nov 2005 (GMT)

My bounty hunting account was just accused of being a PKer, a member of the Drunken Dead and accused of being on your Death list by a person named Thaiboy who claims to be a member of your organisation. Since thay are false i thought i would ask you about the veracity of his (Thaiboys) inclusion, especially considering the fact he is a known pker. His exact comments can be found in the PK reporting thread on the forums (I included them with the screenie of the pking that oc curred as a result of those words).

Also, i should let it be known that Thaiboy has been griefing me personally, first my Zogor account, and now my other account. --Grim s 02:13, 28 Nov 2005 (GMT)


Contents

Reverting

Thanks for reverting all the wikispam. The guy's trying again, a third time and I'll ban his entire IP range... -- Odd Starter talk | Mod 00:00, 12 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Your help is welcomed. Damn this is annoying. Apparently SA has a set goal for what they want the forums page to look like, and anything else gets reverted.. Slicer 23:26, 16 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Personal Messages

  • Right Matthew,

Can see a little straighter this morning but still have breath that could kill an elephant.

Dropped the template and link onto the page. Have changed the 1st 2 suburb names. To edit the map, go to the bottom of the page and click the template:weather_report link. This will take you to the template page. Click the edit tab at the top and then go in and change the names. Remember to take off the {{.

As for the colours, well... I'll try and fish out a list of Hex colour codes with borders but this might take a few days. I haven't even finished it for Molebank! Anyhow, u'll need to change the names first. Bit of advice, open Jonathan Fletcher's map and copy/paste. Also, if you don't want all and sundry editing the map, put the link to it somewhere safe and obscure. You can put a scout section on the page and you can use this info to update it urself.

Right, back to work! --Celt Mac �ireann 04:59, 11 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Dear Matthew-Stewart, I have been consulted with by the Army Council of the MCV and the unanimous decision was that I have behaved as a wanker.

As such, I must apologise. I respect the members� decisions and I will do my utmost to consult them before I make a decision in the future.

Good luck in your campaign and the MCV will extend to you any help that it can.

Yet again, I apologise for my behaviour. --Celt Mac �ireann 19:39, 10 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Thank yolu Mattew for your quick response. If you want, I\ll try and start to make a weather map like East Becktown. You'll hav e to reconfigure the colours and names etc but it might help you.


Hi Matthew, apologies for tardiness, but I've been busy with a spate of PLEB stuff that people were asking about. If I haven't started doing something useful soon, it means that I've gotten distracted again, so don't hesitate to send me a message to remind me! :) I'll try and get back on the case tonight (now 11am). --Timothy Askins 02:30, 1 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Thanks for the info, Matthew :) --Shadowstar 03:13, 17 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Re: Talk:UNATCO_Controversy#Edit_wars

Has Katthew always been like that? Riktar 04:41, 4 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Oh wait, is that some kind of archive page or something? I got confused, saw it in recent pages. Is that some stale, dead argument that I might be just throwing more charcoal on the flames or something? Riktar 04:47, 4 Dec 2005 (GMT)
Mmh, never mind. Seems I'm getting into something way over my head. Riktar 04:59, 4 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Hateful Messages and/or Spam

I added the Ridleybank Resistance Front to your kill list. Now you can keep your kill list, as no one will bother to sort through it anyway. --Grim s 09:12, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

By deleting the RRF list (Which conformed entirely to your specifications, specifically being part of a horde), you have proven that you are a griefing douchebag. --Grim s 09:31, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Check the submission format, submit it properly and it will be added--Matthew-Stewart 09:39, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Names were good enough for you before, so fuck off.
Either leave the list spammed so bad is completely useless or post it on your forum and remove it from the wiki!
Also, care to explain how singling out the innocent for repeated pking is not griefing. I am still waiting on that, griefer scum. --Grim s 11:06, 23 Nov 2005 (GMT)

you brought this upon yourself. --Grim s 01:07, 24 Nov 2005 (GMT)


Grim_s has been banned for vandalizing the DDDS page. --LibrarianBrent 01:47, 24 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Im back, and lookie what i did, you are now responsible for the death of what some could claim to be an innocent Screenie

Have a most unpleasant day :D --Grim s 03:41, 26 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Just an FYI on the state of affairs.

(All slain were DDDS at the time they were killed, kill 1 was you of course, and kill two was FlyDog) I believe this makes the score 10-2. Are you quite done bringing misery down upon the heads of those who join up? I have spoken to a couple, and they did not sign up to your group to fall victim to the results of your mad assault on the recently revived.

So, when do i qualify for serial pker? --Grim s 04:51, 10 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Zombie NPC's

Fair enough, I do understand your point but how long is it going to take for these changes to be put in place, how many players will be 'n'th level anyway by that point and how dull is the game in the meantime?

I don't want to remove players as zombies, as some people seem to be suggesting, but just to add some more "life" (so to speak) and danger to the streets.

Thanks for messaging me, I don't want my suggestion to degenerate into a flame war with anyone, my main goal was to try and stimulate a debate on how more zombies could be put into play, to better reflect the genre.

I hope your favoured suggestions see the light of day soon, but I think the majority of players will always want to be survivors because they're the "heroes" and making zombies more playable won't make a huge difference in that respect, which is why I think alternatives like NPC's should be explored.

Steve Bfgsteve

Hi

--Sarah79 07:35, 3 Dec 2005 (GMT)

UNATCO Controversy


RCDC correspondence

howdy Matthew. Getting back to you re liaison w/RCDC. Sure, we can work together. I'll post polls with your suggestions and we'll have an answer for you in a week. Email me at bulgakovurbandead@yahoo.com, ok? we also have a (reasonably) secure chat room we could use --you can catch some of us online around 2400 GMT Sunday before we sally forth into the night like freakin' ninjas.

--bulgakov--Vurt 09:28, 4 Dec 2005 (GMT)

hey Matthew. looks like you're busy. drop me a line someday about working with RCDC, ok? Please respond to this ID, not vurt.--Bulgakov 23:25, 8 Dec 2005 (GMT)

hey Matthew. good to hear back from you. I'm pretty sure we're cool with DDDS policy. We just haven't had any trouble with PKers or other asshats yet--sounds like you've got your hands full in that regard. WE're currently voting in favor of shifting to ODP--witht he exception of a line of VH/EVH buildings right across the 'burb, so that people can freerun straight to the mall.

So what sort of alliance proposal should I send back to the crew? formal statement of willingness to collaborate on attacks, maintaining 'burb security, etc.? I think we'd need to work together awhile before we agreed to a mutual protection pact (sorry, I play a lot of Civ3 as well).

Also: we have a strike team returning from [classified] next week. We'll need to ammo up anyway, but flag a few heavy concentrations of Zs for us, alright?

Also: is this a good place to contact you? solidarity,--Bulgakov 16:41, 9 Dec 2005 (GMT)

um, yeah. I read the controversy page, and I realized I spoke too soon when I said we were down with your policies--my personal feeling is that when people get killed or revived, they should RP it. Because of this, I do not see someone having zombie skills as necessarily proof of deathcult/zombie spy-edness. It sounds as though you might have capped Zogor by mistake, i.e. he was talking about what he'd done as a zombie and you thought he was confessing to being a zombie spy? Anyway that's a nice little shitstorm you've got going there.

Either way, I think the RCDC has to stay out of that particular squabble. We'll just kill all the zombies we see in Dulston when we're there.

For now, why don't we just list each other as allies--because we're both basically on the same page--and then worry about the nuts and bolts later?--Bulgakov 17:51, 9 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Accounts of the zerger

His accounts, as i already posted on the DDDS Discussion page, are:

  • avandeg
  • avandeg2
  • avandeg3
  • avandeg4
  • mvandeg
  • billybobray
  • bobbybillray
  • dummy2x
  • killpeko
  • killpeko2
  • killpeko4
  • yojimbox
  • matt4million2 (There is a matt4million, but it belongs to an innocent whom this person spoofed)

You may post on the UD Forums to verify if you want, but i advise you to alert every group in the area through their message boards and through graffiti of the threat.

tactics used by this zerger

This zergers MO is to, when one account is killed, swarm the culprit with his other accounts. Here is a link to a screenshot of such a swarm attack: LINK.

HEY YOU!!!111

Right off the bat, I'd just like to say that I have no idea how to use "User talk," so I'm just going to stick my reply right here, like a presumptuous bastard. You can go ahead and delete it whenever you read it. Or keep it and cherish it forever. Or get it tattooed on your back, which would make you my new favorite person- replacing Luke Skywalker.  :)

I'm happy you know the Channel 4 News Team is a joke and I'm even happier that you like it. I totally understand your objectifying the wiki, but at least allow me a few colorful adjectives to get people to click on my page! That's the only way people will know about what the Channel 4 News Team, in all its Holy Glory, is doing- that and sticking links to the Channel 4 News Team everywhere I can. Sorta like how I've stuck "the Channel 4 News Team" in this reply as much as possible.

You stay classy, Matt-Stewart!

From the Channel 4 News Team

Love Ron Burgundy

spellbinder

Hey now. lets put suggestions under your own coment, not on the suggestion itself, ok?

Took your advice under advisement, and moved a couple things around. all in all, thanks--Spellbinder 02:49, 12 Dec 2005 (GMT)
*chuckles* allright, you were right. once i put in my thoughts on the matter, the keeps just rolled in. --Spellbinder 00:09, 13 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Wiki suggestion

I posted a rather lengthy rebuttal to your comments. If you feel the need to carry it on, please move the whole lot to the discussion page of that section of suggestions and leave a tag mentioning where it went.

Before you respond though, you should read some of the zombie comments.--Grim s 21:14, 8 Dec 2005 (GMT)


it is.--Axe-man 00:11, 17 Dec 2005 (GMT)

More like I was a bit busy. frankly there should be discussion on this issue. I see no reason why there shouldn't be since there was a huge edit war over this before.. with guess who slicer.--Axe-man 00:19, 17 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Im not so much as contesting being on your Brain rot list, i was just wondering why? I started off being listed on your traitor list even though i was a brain rot zombie at the time, then i moved to your brain rot list. But im still wondering why im on your list even though ive never been in Dulston on any of my chars ever, closest ive ever got is 3 suburbs away hehe --Littlelisa

About the undying suggestion - you already do for each time you dump bodies, regardless of how many there are. You never said anything about changing that mechanic (i.e. no xp involved anymore, maximum of 5 xp gained from that a day.) Add that and I'll chage to keep.

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