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This page is an archive of old comments placed on Matthewfarenheit's talk page. You can hardly edit this page without

me considering it bad faith, so don't try please.

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Vista's messages

How would you like to be one?--Vista +1 14:04, 2 June 2007 (BST)

Lol, is this a joke or a real question? If it's a real question, I guess yeah, I tried twice to run for mod because I would like to be one, but I'm in no hurry to be one neither do I think it's needed as the wiki is right now. Some months back in time I believed I was quite needed with the antagonistic behaviour that Sysops like Gage, Xoid and Cyberbob brought to the wiki, but right now they're gone and there are fairer, more level headed guys running the wiki. It's not longer a concern to me to be a Sysop right now, but as I said, it would be great to become one at some point in the future. It's not like I would do something bad with Sysop status =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 16:36, 2 June 2007 (BST)
Good, I've nominated you.--Vista +1 18:58, 2 June 2007 (BST)
OMG not again XD. I better stay put until it finishes this time =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 19:01, 2 June 2007 (BST)
that never hurts. The more people get involved in their own bids the less it helps. It's counter intuative perhaps, but it's true for everybody. The best reaction to somebody who says something negative about you is not giving one.--Vista +1 20:27, 2 June 2007 (BST)
And now we know that undeniable truth. Wise are the ones that knowing it put its principles in practice, so build my path oh wise one because I'm taking your word as law. By doing this, the path and everything ahead of it becomes clearer to see, even the veins on the leaves of the nearby trees can be counted, even the clouds above my head and the puddles beneath my shoes are taken in account on this vast universe, and everything ahead becomes soil, and soil is terrain, and terrain is path... my path towards enlightment. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 20:41, 2 June 2007 (BST)

I will start a discussion in the coming week. I've got some ideas. but wanted to wait a bit so that people would differentiate between the two.--Vista +1 14:50, 3 June 2007 (BST)

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I think that it's possible that the page could be speedily deleted. Is it related to a real wiki group? Is the "leader" involved? Is it related to the game? Go with that, except it would be a problem for the arb case if the arb is a non-sysop. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 04:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Want to go as my arb? I would accept you even if you rule against. My main complaint is that the page states me as the leader and my talk page as the contact page. If I file a SD request, even if someone actually deletes it, it would be restored in a matter of minutes: there are at least 4 mods listed as members Darth... what's sad is that tomorrow there will be more. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I'll accept. But I think it could work to SD it, they would have to go through undeletions first, and Kevan seems to back me up. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 15:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
The arbitration case is pointless. If there's no will for Sonny to settle his differences, we can't force him to do so. Arbitration states that there's no need of both parts to participate but the two parts should be represented, and it's all nice, but I would like a fair process, mostly because they make a ruling more legitimate, and to force a guy to representate Saromu doesn't seem fair at all. Of course he there states how much he would accept reason and change his page at my written request, but is there any truth on that? If you feel like you can do it, rule on the VB case about this issue. I'll see if it's feasible taking this to Misconduct after seeing how much they protest on the case if it's ruled on my favor. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 17:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

You'll probably want to...

You'll probably want to thank Cyberbob, he changed his mind on the Faerie Queen case and warned the user. Thankfuly something is happening with the harassment against you. - JedazΣT MC ΞD GIS S! 14:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

He'll be able to in 10 days. --Hubrid Nox Mod WTF U! B! 14:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Ah I forgot about that one. - JedazΣT MC ΞD GIS S! 14:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually I'm avoiding talking to him, as you're right: something is happening here. I can guess that any comment made by me and directed towards Cyberbob will be extremely analyzed in order to check that it complies with our Arbitration case that prohibits us to talk with each other unless it's in line with mod business for a month (yet I can talk about him, as he can too...). I may be being paranoic, but after all that's happening I don't want to risk being reported as any opportunity to ban me will probably be well received. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 14:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC) P.S. Almost forgot: But I thank YOU Jedaz =). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 14:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Thats fair enough. I understand where you are coming from because I was in a very similar position where people wanted me to be banned a few months ago. Well I thought I would let you know that not everyone is against you, it would be a shame to see you driven from the wiki. Oh yeah, as a friendly word, don't make vandalism cases just to "set precedent", or even make ones that you know that will fail. It doesn't win you any favors and causes more trouble then it's worth (as you can see). - JedazΣT MC ΞD GIS S! 14:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Thought you might want to know

Sonny is the Faerie Queen, if you hadn't already guessed. I haven't put this in mod business because it's not an "official" message, but I believe i'm free to tell you as he was warned for it.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 15:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

It's OK, thanks for the info. Anyways, he has apologized and I don't think he will use it to create drama for a time. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 16:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Nazi?

Wow. Does this have anything to do with that WM, WMM, WMMM, W(M)^∞ thing? You seem nice enough, so I guess I'll wish you luck with that.--Labine50 MH|ME|P 05:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, that doesn't have much to do with the WM... maybe the only thing it has to do is Gage asshateness ^_^, but nothing else. Saromu and I apologized to each other 3 days after the last post there, as you can see on this talk page some headings below, so I expect not to worry about that anymore. Thanks anyways for the heads up Labine! Heil Hitler =P --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I see now, I really should have read through first. That should be the end of it all, right? (Good luck with your scout account by the way, it took me a very long time to level up my scout.)--Labine50 MH|ME|P|'07 06:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Your Policy in the Sandbox

You don't need to, but I do think that you should restore Xoid's comments. I don't agree with all of them, I don't think you do either, but I do believe that they are important enough to include up there for people who don't want to troll edit histories. It would be good if you read and replied to them in full, but you don't have to. I'm just trying to be a voice of reason. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 22:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I readed trough them and Xoid, trough flaming and using his classic point by point style, makes some sense in some parts. Still, even if he deleted the first pharagraph that contained even more insults directed at me, he is unapologetic, and his objective is far from trying to help on the policy but rather instaling a project of his own. I had become tired of him and his acussations, that as said are more about proving his point trough than improving and enriching a discussion, so I got him off. It's not my fault that he got his pride broken when I did not allow his trolling to remain on the page. Or that his "integrity" consists on calling everyone that still hold any value on my word in order to make me look bad. Even Jon Pyre, that he personally thanked not a week ago for "starting a shit storm". He suddenly is eveyone's friend when it comes to make me enemies.
My objective in calling you guys to that page was clear since the begining: getting input on how to change the policy in order to present a near finished or finished draft on the Policy Discussions page. Uncarefully written drafts get flamed into oblivion and then forgotten after a week if they still remain there. I didn't want Gage or Xoid to invite themselves, tough they did as they felt it was their duty: we know as facts that they don't like the policy, and instead want something else, or maybe nothing if possible. Still, I presented them at first with polite replies. I even changed some text of the policy that Xoid found faulty, not mentioning the offensive way he used to make his point. After that, he just attacked the policy's core. I can't change the core without presenting a whole new project, and I first want to see if this one is liked or not!. Is that "constructive criticism" as he paints it? Was his form of presenting his reasonement any less than offensive? No sir it wasn't.
I don't know how you find my reaction, if totally wrong or maybe not, but I find myself responding with an equally hedious reaction than his actions were being, and his own reaction is. The points Xoid made will be taken in account if the policy is rewritten by scratch. If I do remember well tough, two times around the time Amazing was first banned for a year, policies exactly like Xoid asks for were presented and flamed to oblivion by all his friends and maybe (I don't remember every edit) himself. I do remember that they got one of those deleted, but can't find the other if it exists. But I do not need a antagonizer following every project I start on my personal pages, even commenting on things that do not have anything to do with him very Cyberbob like, as he did in Mia Kristo's talk page. As I said, when I present the policy to the public and if I choose to do so, he's entitled with a vote and can state his opinion on the talk page. I hope you understand.
I didn't respond to your original request right? I beg your perdon. I was thinking about it, and I'll restore his comments. I don't know what is the excuse behind this reasonement of mine, but it may be just the right thing to do. Hopefully he will understand too what is to ask things politely and try to make constructive criticism that fits the situation. To tell the truth, he got all what he wanted alongside BobHammero when we made the first Guidelines general remake, and he stills wants more. What a guy... --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 00:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I totally understand where you're coming from. This is your policy, and it will eaither be passed by the masses or not. I like it, and I think that you should do what you feel is right. Good luck with it, and thanks for doing the right thing and putting his stuff back there. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 00:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Group issues

In-wiki groups

Use this space to add comments about in-wiki groups that I belong to, or you think that concern me, such as Project Welcome, Project Mentor, Coalition for Fair Tactics, etc.

Expose the conspiracy

Hey, how would you like to join my group based on exposing the moderator conspiracy? Don't worry, it's not serious. It's a bit of a joke because so many people go and say that all of the moderators are up to something malicious. Well let me know if you want to join. (And yes, this is a generic message =P) - JedazΣT ΞD GIS S! 03:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey Jedaz! To tell the truth, I think that a page like that recording the wrongdoings of our staff can come handy, and I'll check it often and throw comentaries into the talk page, but I don't feel like joining myself, mostly because there's more cost than reward: there's not much I can do that you can't, and probably if I join people would start trying more actively to conect me to mean things like "ZOMG this guy talks with AMAZING!" or "WTF! Matthewfarenheit is a Scrollwars player/wiki contributor", things that 1: I don't think they're bad, and 2: I don't do anyways for lacking time and interest.
In resume, I look forward to help our obscure cause behind the shadows of the discussions page, MUAHAHAHAHA! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:13, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Wiki Monitors

I gladly join the wiki monitors, and hope to accomplishment much trol- Err, Balance. --CaptainM 19:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Hahaha, yeah, it was mostly just entertainment... Good luck with uh, monitoring the wiki and stuff... --CaptainM 02:45, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh, it's alright, I can completely understand where you're coming from. --CaptainM 03:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Hidden Tower

Hey fairy queen, can I join the Hidden Tower? LOLROFLLMAO!!--J Muller 05:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


I somehow received a message from you the other day (the mechanics of message sending elude me still). Nevertheless, it was something about me being a "new editor". Based on the tone of the communication, I was left with the impression that I had somehow committed some infraction of posting rules (specifically an infraction regarding format). Yet I did not see any specific reference to this. The only article I have edited except the MIC was feedback on a posted suggestion, and I was under the impression that I had used the format dictated in the readme. If I did indeed make a mistake, I just want to know specifically what I erred on. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tarumigan (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

In-game groups

Use this space to add messages about in-game groups such as the ones I belong or any other you want to.

YRC Notice

If you really are on your feet, it seems a lot of YRC members are closer to Whatmore than they are to Style. That's a bit of a problem; I'll bet most of them are infected, and if they don't have any FAKs? They're screwed. I'd stick to Style, or try to find a closer location to build a safehouse in BEFORE trying to revive folks from the Whatmore area. --MorthBabid 21:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I'm not really in the logistic issues of my actions, but I'm alive and I did revive all the YRC members that were standing at the clinic, asking them to take their time to save AP and resupply before attempting to come back (as I did). Now, for the retake efforts, I have some generators and fuel for whenever someone makes a serious attempt at retacking some piece of Yagoton, but I can`t do serious stuff as my character, or more specifically the content of my inventory, isn't combat oriented. I'll stick to my "revive strafe" tactics for now on until we get a good number of live people (I'm reviving C4NT people too!) and whenever you think you have a strong control of some building closer to the clinic that I already am then I'll help you guys, even if it's only as a 'cader and meatshield! For now, I'm really close and that's why I revive: I'm not wasting too much AP coming and going, and I get to revive 3 guys per day. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 03:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Wiki issues

Suggestions page

This space is for discussions that have something to do with the suggestions page.

Mark Scent

Hi Matthew. Can you please take a look again at my suggestion and the talk page? I wanna discuss some changes you proposed there. Thanks. ~m T! 20:08, 10 June 2007 (BST)

Reduce The AP Cost To Use a Syringe On A Murder Victim

I play a zombie character as well as a survivor. I want things to be balanced for both sides. But I feel that PKers aren't helping the zombie cause, they're hurting it. If zombies can rely on PKers as a crutch that means less need to introduce new zombie skills and features. Many players complain zombies are boring or weak. I'd rather they be made interesting and strong instead of having a small percentage of humans outperforming them in every way. --Jon Pyre 03:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that PKers afect that much the game balance, and neither that the fact that killing survivors as a survivor is easier than as a zombie significantly erodes the collective will to play as undead. If you really think that zombies should be made more interesting (thought that I share) then suggest things for them alone, don't try to nerf other aspects of the game that make them look bad. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
I think PKing is unbalanced regardless of whether zombies need it or not. If zombies were down to 10% of the game population, if they were up at 90%, no matter what, I'd recommend this change. Here's the way I see death in the game. Death is fair for survivors because they can barricade as a premptive defense. Death is fair for survivors because they have an inexpensive penalty for dying. If there is no preemptive defense against PKing it should take a cue from the zombie model and have a cheaper penalty for dying. --Jon Pyre 05:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
But you didn't suggest a preemptive way of defending against PKing, neither did the suggestion make the death "fair" according to your concept! A survivor's death vs another survivor is still FAR MORE EXPENSIVE AP wise than a zombie's one; also there's the fact that you made it easier for the guy that revives a PKed guy and not for the PKed guy himself. And the PKing way is unpopular because most guys always want to be good guys or bad zombies, not bad guys or the very rare and useless occurrence of a good zombie (good and evil from a human POV). Most PKers don't last that much, and those that do are so far outnumbered that their only perceptible action is to appear once a day killing a person and running 10 blocks away, 3 times a week. None likes to follow that "hiding" way of play for long, so they retire, or the most hardcore RPers PKers stagnate and dissappear with time. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:30, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
You want to bet on that? PKers ruin the game if they focus continually on one person or group- if the group have to stay in one suburb then they are always easy to find. The hcnaces of them killing my group and us tracking him down in the realm of several suburbs makes it hardly fair game. If its a random PKer and you die then fairer enough its once then its over. But in Judgewood where my group is stationed there are several groups and individuals who if you kill them once will spend the next 6 MONTHS hunting you and your group. Its dull and it ruind the fun from the game if every other day you wake up and surprise surprise you are dead again. Needless to mention the ap spent finding FAK's to replenish lost HP by being revived. There needs to be something in there to boost the negative effects of Pking. --MarieThe Grove 11:18, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I bet on that. You're not the first or the last one that got PKed, neither the situation you describe is so unique: As a YRC member we got PKed and generally griefed by groups like Disciples of Zeko and The Neon Knights for as much time as 6 months the former, even more the latter. Yet, they do not represent a significant obstacle to fulfill our objectives, as you probably know that the revive point we manage is the most effective EVER. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 16:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh I know that PKing happens everywhere and theres nothing special about it but being targeted does ruin the impact of the game if you can't do anything. The YRC revive point is amazing but Judgewoods a bit lacking as the same brain rotted freaks clog it up but then again as the YRC I bet you get that all the time. Its just a question of numbers- your groups has more people, your revive point has more, my group has less, we have less people working and in revuve queues. I just think there should be something there against PKers and fair enough you can vote however you like- its not as if anyone can persuade you to change your mind and thats fair. --MarieThe Grove 09:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Are you saying...

(In response to Link to Wiki Location Pages) That we should have a mass blocking day, 100 people each doing about 75 blocks? That might be fun, actulally...--Labine50 MH|ME|P 04:30, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

No, that's entirely your idea =P. I never made Location pages, I recognize it's not a job for everybody (because of the patience and persistance needed (ask boxy) and I don't think one hundred persons with no experience will make a good work. Most blocks of the most active suburbs are already done anyways, the work is only needed on some God's forsaken suburbs that none has heard about. I just pointed out that it's a necessity to have all the Locations pages done before implementing that suggestion, or it just will be unfair for people that lives in one of those non-notable suburbs. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
I just stumbled on this, I answered your vote just this morning. Basically, I think it would be a good way for those non-notable suburbs to get their locations pages up faster, by motivating the residents to catch up -- boxy T L ZS PA DA 05:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
First, let me say that altough we never chat, I constantly see your work on the wiki and I have a deep respect for all of it. You remind me of Jedaz that kept the Suggestions page organized when it was hard as hell without anyone noticing how hard he worked, and all the "thanks" he got was a ban and a forced demotion. Then, replying to what you said just above, I didn't think of it like that and it's true: early implemention of the suggestion will undoubtely encourage people to fill all the red names on their suburb. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Well ta. Good to know you think I've got what it takes to get banned around here, something to look forward to ;) -- boxy T L ZS PA DA 06:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
You still need to piss off a Mod tough. There are good candidates out there, feel free to choose! ;) --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Even better, you know that you are a "threat" to someone once they start attacking you for no reason =P - JedazΣT ΞD GIS S! 06:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion:20070604 Shop till you drop, get back up, and shop again

"Makes it too easy to resupply once the resource points of a suburb are taken. Basically, eliminates the concept of "resource point" as a whole. Survivor mega buff."
Huh, did we even read the same suggestion? Just what would be people use those shops to "resupply" with? Flare guns, cell phones, pocket knives, and beer? Those are precisely the items people normally go out of their way NOT to find, and I'd LOVE so see survivors put up a fight using such gear! --Seb_Wiers Imagine 03:21, 10 June 2007 (BST)

True. CNR carefully, I readed the mechanics but not the items that could be found, sorry. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 03:27, 10 June 2007 (BST)

Veteran AP Reward/Incentive

I've put something on the talk page that responds to your Kill vote for this suggestion. armareum 15:32, 10 June 2007 (BST)

I'm sorry

I want to apologize for annoying the crap out of you on the wiki like there's no tomorrow. It's just that I feel you can't mind your own business and always try to put your input in when the subject has nothing to do with you. So because of that I created the Neopet page and made a mockery out of your Arby's case. I'm sorry for doing it and will stop purposefully trying to tick you off. I only ask that you try not to stick your noes in other people's business when they don't ask for your opinion. The cursing on another user's talk page and telling hagnat that his logos were bad really got me mad. So, I'm sorry for all the annoying shit I did. --Sir Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 15:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

You actually take me off guard with your apology. I don't know what to say... I just didn't mean to tell Hagnat that his logos were ugly but that ocasionally people will present other logos and then I asked how will he react to that possibility. I suppose I was mean with my comment on the Bale logo, but I tried to change my position as soon as the second comment I made (the first on the project discussion page). I actually think that the logos themselves fit with everything else in UD nicely: neutral and aesthetically pleasant, without shocking remarks or something else (i.e. I would hate a logo that is basically a photoshoped pic from a movie with gory visuals/people dressed in leather/etc., as even in a zombie game as UD is they just don't fit the style of the game).
About me inputing on everything I feel, sometimes I jump over the edge in order to try a limit or make a point, as in your first vandal case (first for this season ^_^), and I apologize for that and I'll not do it again, but what I do not think intrussive are my comments on new projects, policy discusssions and things alike, and it's tiring when someone, either you or anyone else that is ticked off with me, try to bring their personal conflicts with me on the discussion when I just tried to start a neutral and hopefully constructive or informative conversation. I suppose I got ticked off too when I made my "ENOUGH WITH THE BAD TEMPERED RESPONSES" comment...
That's all. I accept your apologizes and then, I hope you'll accept mine as well. I'll give you the benefit of a clean slate, just don't try to make me forget my promise by doing something extremely annoying like changing Yagoton's status directly from safe to VD (when it's not very well justified) or something like that, OK? ^_^ --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 16:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough. I stop trying to tick you off and you mind your business. An even deal. --Sir Sonny Corleone RRF CRF DORIS Hunt! 17:03, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

New Project

Project Sleep. Check it out. Tell me what you think. --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 09:40, 19 May 2007 (BST)


For discussions about anything that has to do with editing the wiki that doesn't fit the other sections, but the less important chatter.

Welcomenewbie template

You beat me at Inpassingonce with a few seconds... :) -- /// goebiTalkHelp/LFS/SR/NT/MWP /// 16:43, 2 June 2007 (BST)

Backseat Modding

I believe Grim once asked you to stop it. Cyberbob  Talk  09:20, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

We can do our job Matt. Please don't insinuate that we can't.--Gage 09:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)


I think you got a screwjob on your first bid, and I was wondering if I nominated you again, would you accept? or would I be wasting my time? (get back to me on my talk) --General Lee A. Dickhole Malton Rangers 02:05, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

hello from the mossad.

matt, i've noticed most of your comments, changes, etc etc. are fair and balanced. so need a bit of advice. we have been in rbank for the last week. the burb is completely safe, and caded with power. yet gage locks the burbs at VD. what can i do about this? this is a total abuse of mod powers and zombie bias. at the moment there is no RFF presence in rbank. if they come back and sack the burb again I would understand the danger rating. but locking it just because the zeds want it that way. is not being a very good sports. WTF.--SexualharrisonMalton Rangers/mossad 20:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll look into it. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 22:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
It has already taken caren of by Gage. Anyways, if you keep making such a fuss some horde will be pissed off and then you'll have trouble. And the suburb will be VD yet again, hehe. Good luck there! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 23:23, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
well thats sorta the plan. i live to twist the rff's nipples. and we want to pull the zombies back to defend their stinky homeland. and take some steam off of MT07. but it seems like theres a zombie strike. so it's not much fun. PS. were not touching blackmore again for a long time.--SexualharrisonMalton Rangers/mossad 06:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed when I went to scout that Blackmore had only 1 guy inside but around 10 zeds outside. That's a nasty prospect! Anyways, you're doing a good job, and it's good to have helped in something, at least outside of the game ^_^. Brings me memories of the 2 months stay with the BBB. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:39, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
yeah. i'm a vet of both BBB fights. as for BM...not yet it's too soon. blackmore is not really a prority. we just want to keep the danger level down. and let the locals defend blackmore. anything to stick it to jorm. and gage really seems like a zombie to me. at least the way he posts and edits. thanks again. and if you ever go for mod you got my vote.--SexualharrisonMalton Rangers/mossad 18:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Blackmorebastard.JPG Sexy Blackmore Bastard
This user fought in the 2nd Battle of Blackmore and proudly wears this home made badge on his knee. where he kicked the ever famous dickholeguy in the nuts.. TWICE!

And yet again rbank is ED with no real danger report. lOVE these zombie mods.--Sexualharrison Malton Rangers Starofdavid2.png Mossad 13:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, the change has nothing to do with Mods: it was Saromu alone. I don't want any problems with him, and I don't have merit to join this discussion as I don't have any character in Ridleybank anymore (even altough most buildings ransacked with 5-10 zombies inside each seems really exaggerated) so try to change it by yourself by giving some real evidence of human occupation in Ridleybank, and more importantly, no strong zombie presence around. Screenshots could work. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 16:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
well when i go back there sometime. I guess i do something about it. the rangers and mossad have pulled out as there is NO fight left. guess that must mean the burb is safe? Lately i've died more in Miltown than Ridleybank. thank you for time and kind words.--Sexualharrison MRMTStarofdavid2.png 15:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey Matt! how do i make an archive for my talk page? thanks.--Sexualharrison MR ה TStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 21:03, 30 May 2007 (BST)

There are plenty of ways to create an archive, but the classic way is to create a page like User_talk:Sexualharrison/Archive, cutting all the stuff from your talk page you want to place on the archive and pasting it there. After that, it's up to you how you want the archive to be organized and administered, or how much time betweeen archives you want to let pass.
Just one thing more: try to start new headings already! don't talk to me always on the same old heading because I can miss your message if it's too old. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 19:10, 31 May 2007 (BST)


Hello, I sae u no how to use the wiki (nice page). how do i make a box with a circle?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Grundo (talkcontribs) at an unknown time.

Hello???? u there? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Grundo (talkcontribs) 15:50, January 21, 2007.
Just moving down here, I'll leave the interpreting to you -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 09:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I was having problems with my PC, more specifically a RAM that doesn't want to work properly with the rest of the team. I actually don't know what do you want to do, I guess it has something to do with tables, but could you explain yourself better? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 00:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
i ned a box insid circle. lik a pantagram. its 4 my zombi goup. --Grundo 05:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I think you'll need to upload such thing as an image. It may be possible to do using all sort of difficult wiki/shtml code (or may be not as well), but it would be easier if you just Special:Upload an image. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

how u mak dat box on yer pag? i lik blu :) --Grundo 04:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, it's achieved by using tables: my whole page is basically a big table cell colored blue with a little darker borders. If you authorize me I can make it on your user page for you, but if you want to do it yourself here is Help:Tables. The core of the code that you'll have to use will look more or less like this:
{| style="border:#5050ff 2px solid; width:100%; padding:5px; background-color:#e0f0ff"
You'll have to place that code on the beginning of each page you want to look like mine. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
u can do it, thkx. --Grundo 06:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I hope you'll like it. If you want something different, don't be afraid to ask, but look at the codes, practice and try to do it by yourself: you can do whatever you want in your own user page, or in the public sandbox. You can even create your own sandbox as a subpage of your userpage, for example User:Grundo/Sandbox. One of the best ways to learn is by imitating: you can look at the code of other users pages by clicking the "edit" tab and copy code on your own, just remember not to save any changes in pages that are not your own. I'll leave some general tips on your Talk page, I hope them to be of some use for you. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

how do i mke a polyhedron wit a circl in it? i ned it 4 mat clas. danks. --Grundo 12:23, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Err, I rather occupy my time with something else. You may want to ask another, less busy user. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 17:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Please Don't...

Edit the text on the Administration pages. This isn't an attack on you, and I appreciate your willingness to help, but your English isn't quite up to the standards of public pages. I mean no offense by this, so don't try to turn it into something it isn't, but please just don't do it in the future. Leave it to a native speaker.--Gage

Most of your changes were to text that I didn't modify. I didn't DARE to correct these huge mistakes myself as I'm not entitled to do so by the text of any policy, so I just contented myself to replace what the policy that I'm enforcing (as you're doing too) allows me to. If you think you can do a better job without getting reported, feel free to do so, but just remember that the new title was "System Operator" and not "Administrator". That's the only mistake I saw you make.
About what you said: OK, I kinda agree that someone else can do a better job =). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 22:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I used "administrator" on A/G because there is a good possibility in the future that we might have non sysop user permissions in the future and/or a position in between that of sysop and bureaucrat. That is how wikipedia does it, and we were tossing around the idea of making a change. I think I'll add a preface to the page explaining what exactly what the kinds of sysops are right at the top. I don't know. We'll see.--Gage 22:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I see. A position between a Sysop and a Bureaucrat will almost undoubtely carry the Sysop title themselves, and special permissions for particular users (like the not dessirable IMHO but possible moving of pages permission) could carry their particular, more brief and clear guidelines instead of an extension of the current ones. Changing everything from "Administrator" to "System Operator" is just following what the policy said, and I must confess that I rather have things done letter by letter as the policy says that left to someone's free will. I'm not saying "to your free will", but anyone's, even mine. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 22:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I also didn't want people new to the wiki to believe that the "sysop" guidlines only apply to sysops. They might not understand that bureaucrats are bound by the same rules because they are sysops as well. I added a preface saying "admins are sysops + bureaucrats" and then it transitions into "this is what all admins can do", so I think it should be fine.--Gage 22:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


Hi, though you may be able to help. Was wondering if you could find a way to slot the {{Comannounce}} template into the {{Navigation}} template. Seems to me that there's enough room in the bottom left hand corner for it to fit... but the tables coding concerned does my head in! -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 11:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Pretty challenging indeed. Here you have: User:Matthewfarenheit/Sandbox/Main_navigation. I can't add the changes myself as the "Navigation" page is protected for some obscure reason. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 17:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Holy shit, you did it! Nice... I was going to give you a few days to work on it :) -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 06:31, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I see you've put the coding that is in the {{Comannounce}} template in, instead of an inclusion of the template itself. It will still work if the actual {{Comannounce}} template goes in the {{Navigation}} template, wont it? So that people can still just update the comannounce one -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 06:35, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Didn't think about the template call, good idea! Yeah, it works with it too, but if you're going to do that my advice is to reduce the {{Comannounce}} template width to 550px. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Good oh. Can you bump the {{Comannounce}} template down another line? The last link in "External Links" is inside the comannounce header box for me. Will look into the width issue when it gets used -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 06:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
OMG really? what kind of monitor are you using? In my case, for example, the comannounce table looks a bit low. I'm thinking about putting it over the tables instead of below, over the first 3 tables leaving the other two beside the group. What do you think? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
On a laptop, 1280/800. screenshot. I think it looks great where it is, except for the minor detail -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 06:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Now? Also, look at the second version in the same page so you see what I was talking about. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:01, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Excellent. I still like it better at the bottom, and think it will look better that way on the main page. Perhaps, if possible, could the Administration section be automatically aligned with the bottom while leaving the Wiki Information section aligned with the top of the others? (That is just being picky though, for aesthetical reasons) -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 07:08, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, that's being picky =P, but we are perfectionists aren't we? Let me figure out what you're asking and if it's possible for the code (and me) to do it. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Is that good? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:17, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't seem to have changed the alignment of the admin section (Oh, and I'd only call myself a perfectionist if I wasn't too lazy to learn this shite myself) ;) -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 07:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Hehe. So, it's all done? Or I still didn't change what you wanted? because it's already hard enough to be dealing with tables adressing written requests without mentioning that English is not exactly my strong point. Make me a drawing or something =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Yep, all done, thanks for all your work Matt, much appreciated... now we've just gotta see if it stays on the main page, or causes an edit war >:) -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 07:36, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
*looks around maniatically, grabs something dirty from the floor and types this as he puts it on. It's a WWII helmet.*. Edit war? BRING IT ON! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and now I'll change that page from my sandbox so it looks like everything else (and de-categorize it), so you're warned: don't copy some part of the gibberish that makes my personal pages look all the same. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:44, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
No worries, it's up and on the Main Page now. Good job. I don't see it being a major problem tucked away down there, so don't worry about the helmet (just keep yer tin-foil one on!) -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 07:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Always =). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
The new comannounce template looks good, same style as the others in navigation. You should be able to edit that template yourself -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 09:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Your help with a template

Wondered if you'd be able to help me with a few tables properties in templates again? I tried adding an alignment variable in the moderator template, but it ruined the look of pages because the text doesn't wrap around the template until the end of a paragraph. Wondered if you knew of a method for forcing the text to wrap around a table? -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 10:22, 10 May 2007 (BST)

You always come at me with the hardest requests =P. I'll look into it, but not now as it's 7 AM and I really could use some sleep. BTW I want to tell you that even when I appear less active I'm here, I'm just a little busy with a new aquarium (I'm an aquarist! weee!) and designing another wiki (I won't tell you wich one =P), so feel free to call whenever you want as I check regularly. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 11:05, 10 May 2007 (BST)
Yeah, I know. I tried to work it out myself for a while, and had a look around... but, y'know! No rush, it's just something that's annoying me from a while ago. Good to know you're around, had noticed that you were "laying low" lately :) -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 11:50, 10 May 2007 (BST)
Ok, I want to do this now, but I can't understand what's your exact request. You want to be able to place that template as you do with images in Microsoft Office Word, with text wrapping around it as it does there? or as if it was a character on a sentence? That last thing would be something like:
  • "bla bla bla bla bla TEMPLATE bla bla bla bla"
That is, the same as the first option but just wrapping around 1 line. As a side note, I don't know how to do neither of them, but it will be quite fun to found out if it can be done with not-so-advanced wiki code. ---Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 10:27, 12 May 2007 (BST)
What I was looking for, was to make text wrap around the template like it does with images here -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 08:55, 14 May 2007 (BST)
I belive that Saromu's signature is probably what you are looking for, or at least code wise. That has text wrap around it, so it may be of some use. - JedazΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 09:37, 14 May 2007 (GMT)
Nope really: that siggy was a failure and as such Saromu reverted it to his previous design, as you can see here. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 10:49, 14 May 2007 (BST)

The horror...

What's with all the {{Welcomenewbie}} templates you're putting on people's talk pages? I realize it's nice to be helpful and all, but you're pretty heavily spamming the recent changes page. Nice to know you care I guess... unless you're just trying to get your edit count up <.< Just kidding :) --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 04:58, 15 May 2007 (BST)

No, I'm trying to win the Signature Race =P. Nah, pal, what's with the paranoic reaction? I just tought of getting the template on every newbie's talk page I see, and if any of these guys actually ask me for help after they see the template I will have achieved my goal. It's not like I'm spamming for the sole reason of feeling important, but the responsibility that in the past scared me of doing something as big as this (I could get a lot of request for help and it's difficult to manage each of them individually as they deserve) doesn't scare me as much anymore. Let's see if this become more helpful than bothersome, and then we can see if the template's purpose was the right one when it was conceived. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:04, 15 May 2007 (BST) edit: BTW, the spamming of the Special:Recentchanges page happens every time a Sysop takes care of any kind of deletions and move requests, and when a location stub maker starts with his job, so why I'm the first one getting scold for that? hehe --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:06, 15 May 2007 (BST)
I'm just bustin' your chops, no worries. Keep up the good work. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 05:10, 15 May 2007 (BST)
Lies, lies, him and Dux are doing it just for the Sig Race. Luckily I have unshakable principles and thus stayed out of such morally reprehensible activities. Thanks for helping out the newbs though! It's nice to see some positive means, despite the negative ends!--Lachryma 06:26, 15 May 2007 (BST)
There's no faith in me, no faith... T_T --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:58, 15 May 2007 (BST)
I think you're doing a great job, though you might want to check how long a user has been on the wiki before spamming their talk page with the {{Welcomenewbie}} template. Lest they return the favour. --Belmond zoo 07:19, 15 May 2007 (BST)
It's true that I don't check, but I only add the template to users that do NOT have a talk page. If nobody never told you nothing, it's almost sure that your account is quite new or that you did not experience most facets of the wiki. Anyways, I apologize if you didn't like having the template added to your talk page: I'm sorry. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 07:26, 15 May 2007 (BST)
Like in my case if you don't have a talk page it's cause you don't want one. I made one just so I wouldn't get obnoxious crap like this anymore. --karek 10:14, 8 June 2007 (BST)
Ok. As I said above, the template isn't meant to offend anybody, so I'm sorry if you felt attacked, insulted, etc. I'm not the only one that is adding them so it would be a great idea to have a talk page in order to avoid having the template added, even if it's a blank page. You may not perceive (nor like) the template's importance, but it's making projects like Project Mentor become active again and users that usually don't even sign their edits to have a good idea on common wiki practices from the start. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 14:35, 8 June 2007 (BST)
And I'm just saying you guys need to check who you are 'mentoring' more, like mabey their join date. --karek 14:40, 8 June 2007 (BST)
As Vista said below: what we are doing is a job that otherwise would be automated by a bot and thus, any guy without a talk page would get a message anyways, including non newbies and vandals alike. It's irreallistic for a bunch of users (two, three maybe?) to check every guy without a talk page contributions, considering that every day around 50 new users join this wiki. That said, the issue is that every once in a while we hurt somebody's pride because they feel like being called "newbies" is an insult. Be cool, we didn't add none of you to some sort of "noob list", neither we'll contact you with further offers of teaching you unless you make the first step asking us. We are sure that 90% or more of those users without talk pages that appear in Special:Recentchanges are newbies with a week or less on this wiki, so we use that logic. That's all the explanations I can give you, please forgive us for our ignorance and lazyness when classifying newbies and not newbies, and next time be bold and instead of criticizing our work do it yourself and realize how hard it is. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 14:51, 8 June 2007 (BST)

Edit to Template:Comannounce

"This really doesn't belong here. Appearing UDWiki:Community Portal should be enough."

The "Infection Lexicon" has been listed in that template for months now. It isn't even accepting entries any more- at least my community event is open to active participation! On what basis did you remove my entry, and leave that one? It seems like your simple personal whim.
I think there's a strong case for saying that equal standards should be applied- Infection Lexicon has gotten a very long run in the template, and so should Christmas Tree Dead Pool- if it lasts that long. It clearly is a community event- you agree as much above. Given the number of participants it has gained in 2 days (already more than any other community event currently running) it is in fact the single MOST ACTIVE community event. So why should it not get "front page" treatment, along with (much less active) voting issues and such?
Hopefully we can sort this out without need for arbitration. I'd rather not get in a revert war.
S.Wiers X:00x-mas tree dead pool 13:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I was basing my decission on this: Template_talk:Comannounce. What was said there was that only the most important community announcements should be included on the comannounce template, but not the group based announcement, or those that concern only a small part of the community itself. In theory, your announcement AND the Lexicon shouldn't be there, but I don't remove the Lexicon because it has a long history of being included on comannounce: I would inevitabily feel out of place by doing so. The "much less active" voting issues are administrational issues that concern the whole community and can be voted by anyone: it has a very different nature than that of your event where you set the rules and change them whenever you want. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 17:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough- I missed the "talk" issues, and will check those in the future for such things. Didn't even really occur to me that templates would HAVE discussions, but its a great place for such info! OK, that explains why a lot of other things aren't in there too. Maybe a question in Template_talk:Comannounce about the lexicon would be appropriate. BTW, I've been very careful not to change the rules in any way that affects existing entries- the only changes made were to clarify / expedite the handling of entries. But yeas, I suppose in theory I could just up and walk away from the whole thing, or radically alter the rules. Of course, I'd loose face with a hell of a lot of people, most of them PKers.... --S.Wiers X:00x-mas tree dead pool 17:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Don't worry, I understand your position and that you intend to make a fun event and probably will not change the rules to please your whim as long as there's no valid concern to change them. It's understandable too that you missed the talk page, as it's not so noticeable by itself. Good luck with your event, and thanks for trusting me at least by not starting an Arbitration case right away! I hope that you did it because either you know that I won't make egoistical choices in order to please a small part of the userbase or because you believe that people in general is basically good =). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 00:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Both of those, plus its just a hell of a lot simpler and faster to cut out the middle man, especially when dealing with somebody who knows what they are doing. Arbitrators are only there for dealing with people who can't explain themselves. --S.Wiers X:00x-mas tree dead pool 04:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


A whole section just for unimportant chat.

RE: Question

Actually, Lemon Demon is a favored band of mine. Mr Rodgers was the star of a childrens TV show. Mr Rodgers was a nice, old man who portrayed a gentle character, I created the Mr Rodgers policy since the basics of the policy seems Mr Rodgers-esque. I'd assume, but wouldn't be possitive, that Mr Rodgers wins the ultimate showdown because it's kindof ironic, as you had a bunch of badasses like Optimus Prime, Indiana Jones, and Shaquielle (sp?) Oniel. --CaptainM 04:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

zug zug

Gripping OnlyMatt by the shoulders, you crush them for 3 damage. They die.
A zombie killed Thari.

Next time, dont announce you are nearby and sleep where we are going to attack. Barhah harman. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 00:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

You silly zambah can't understand. Malton is not an American city neither an English town, it's a setlement from Japan in the XVII century! With streets flooding with sword wielding trenchcoaters and pistols only causing death after the 12th hit, me revealing my position was no other thing than following the way of the Samurai! Bushido > BARHAH! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Mods and Sysops

I like it for the most part. You might want to drop the part about only mods become bureaucrats since that'll probably stir up some objections, and anyone not perceived as neutral won't get the position anyway. --Jon Pyre 03:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I do. Just expect a hard sell. It's worth the attempt though. --Jon Pyre 03:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


I liked your idea about the tabs, in-fact I liked it so much that I borrowed it and used it on my Scroll Wars userpage. It's almost identical (code wise) to yours except for one major difference, on mine the whole page is a table and doesn't use the div code. I hope you don't mind me borrowing the idea. - JedazΣT MC ΞD GIS S! 09:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Of course not! I stole it from Wikipedia myself! but it's not like you can do something original here, at least wiki code-wise ^_^. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 10:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Let's be honest

OK. I don't particularly like you, and I know you share similar sentiments. I can live with that. I'd like to see you banned (strictly within the rules, mind you), and I'm sure you'd either like to see me demoted or have my powers stripped to the point where I'm virtually unable to utilise my powers in anything meaningful. I can see where you're coming from, there - I haven't exactly been an angel in going about my job, just as you haven't been Mr. Perfect.
I've realised that trolling is not the way to go about doing things anymore, and I'm going to make an honest & sincere effort to clean up my act. I'll still be holding the same views as before, but I'll be expressing them in a more palatable fashion. I'm a little tired of drama, and at this point I'm willing to do almost anything to end it - or at least transform the flamefests into true discussions.
I just wanted to let you know that from this point on, I will do my absolute utmost to remain civil, and that no comments I make to you or your friends will be part of some secret agenda (truthfully, there never was a secret agenda, but I knew you'd be suspicious of my motives if I didn't clear that point up).
I only ask one thing in return - that you refrain from making unfounded accusations against me or any other of the sysops. Please, if you require proof from the admin staff in our rulings, the least you can do is reciprocate. That's all.
Oh, and in case you were wondering - this isn't out of desperation. I honestly don't think your brewing policy will make it through voting as it stands. I do, however, think that if disliking someone is inevitable, you might as well go about your enmity in a civilised fashion. Otherwise, tempers flare, blood pressures rise, and everybody loses. --Hubrid Nox Mod WTF U! B! 14:01, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Certainly, this could be a positive change. You get me wrong on some points, as I do not want to totally nullify your action's consecuences, but I do want to make them (and every other Sysop actions) more palatable and less controversial themselves. And it's not like I will (or can) impose my point of view on anyone: the brewing policy you talk about is going to be accepted or rejected by the community, so I won't be crying if I get a sound "against" on Policy discussion. I do agree, however, that at some point of my career as a wiki user I did want you banned in a childish fashion, but since I came back I have present that not by my hand and neither by yours our actions will be judged as M/VB material. There's no point on aiming for something you can't possibly achieve.
About your conditions, let me explain myself: I do not think that most of my accusations are unfounded, but neither do I believe that I must present actual evidence for every one of them. However, I do believe that I have been a little too generous in making accusations, so I'll try to restrain myself a little more. So, I accept your conditions as far as they concern you and me: the other Sysops can make their own bargains themselves. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 17:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Certainly. --Hubrid Nox Mod WTF U! B! 03:34, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


The X:00 page has been heavily updated to reflect that X:00 is rolling into a new "active test phase". If you have a zombie you can use in Riddleybank, please join in. There will be some metagaming involved (obviously, otherwise you would not get this message) but it will be for the purpose of testing in-game methods of attack coordination. All required communication can be done through the wiki. If interested, please also visit and use the X:00 User Registration page. --Swiers X:00 18:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, the guy with the brilliant idea! I'll have to drop your proposition, not for lack of a character willing to cooperate, but because I wont be able to coordinate because of the nature of my, err, life. I usually play the game, use the wiki and everything else at random, on these little moments that I can find in-between doing real things and all, so I couldn't possibly know when I'm going to be able to get on and, thus, coordinate that time with others. Good luck with the test phase anyways! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 23:09, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Whoops- I'm used to having people port replies over to my talk page, never saw this before now. If its any interest, X:00 has moved out of a purely testing role and on to helping the Mall Tour set up strike times for ferals. The original testing was pretty weak in fact. I imagine a lot of people have the same issue you do (I know I have) and it seems that scent death doesn't really provide the right kind of information to make the effect truely useful. Some related ideas have begun to pan out nicely, however, and there's been enough interest to get both 0:00 and X:00 on the stats page in decent positions. --S.Wiers X:00x-mas tree dead pool 18:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

A fake truce

Yes, I agree to stop hating you, and it's a good thing you put your peace offering up, otherwise this wiki wouldn't be big enough for the the two of us! No, seriously, you were doing what I occasionally do: wander in to some random conversation and try to diffuse the (dumb) tension. So, thank you.--Lachryma 14:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Misconduct and other stuff

I mentioned you on the Mod Conspiracy page, hope you don't mind...and good work on keeping Gage's administrator fantasies in check!--Lachryma 04:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Of course I saw it: I love the final comment about me and Gage (and secretly hope it's not all sarcasm =P). Even more: I was about to tell you to add yourself at the membership section but Boxy beaten me to it. With people like you and people like me that works for the people we will have less trouble dealing with people that threatens the people. =) --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Noooo, it's not all sarcasm...I believe there's some irony and general mockery of drama too...But seriously, I'm glad you like it. And yes, maybe the mods will be a little nicer/warier with people laughing in their face whenever they do something wrong.--Lachryma 04:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


Congrats, it looks real stylish. :) --Cap'n Silly T/W/P/CAussieflag.JPG 08:47, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, thanks! In reality, I shouldn't be taking any praise for such a small job, so please don't flatter me =). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 09:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


Me llamo la atencion ver a otro argentino aca y bueno, nomas saludarte. Casi seguro que termino poniendo una barra de navegacion como la tuya, esta mucho mejor que la mia y encima es solo codigo, no ocupa otra pagina-- Che -T GC X 09:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, hola! Ya te había visto haciendo cosas por ahí pero no sabía que eras de Argentina! Felicidades, o debería decir mis condolencias? =P. Estas un poco equivocado con respecto a mi barra de navegación: es extremadamente complicada, no vas a necesitar solo otra página más sino 4. Si querés usarla no hay problema, incluso podrías usar esas 4 páginas mías en vez de crearlas de vuelta, aunque te aconsejo crearlas de vuelta en tu página de usuario por si algun dia yo cambio las mías así no rompo las tuyas, o si querés usar otro color. Casi me olvido: el Sysop Thari también es argentino! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 14:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Esa, somos 3. No sabia si estaba bien escribirte todo el mensaje en castellano :P-- Che -T GC X 19:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Yo no hablar español =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 00:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

The James Earl Jones Awards

JEJ.jpg JEJ Nomination
Matthew farenheit has been nominated to win the Best Survivor Award.
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Matthew farenheit has been nominated to win the Best Zombie Award.

Nice pic

Ooo, lovely photo you added to the Mod Con page...I guess the line about masks just stuck with you, huh?--Lachryma 05:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I just wanted to contribute for once to the page. I'm not confident that my sense of humor is shared by everyone, so if you find it too weird you can take it out. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC) EDIT: Also, if I was going to make a joke or add to an article, it obviously wasn't going to be in the part that I was involved. That would be seen as seeking to feed the drama. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
No, no, the article needs an image of some sort, and that one works perfectly. Sorry to distract you from your diff comparisons though...feth, there was a lot of drama tonight...--Lachryma 05:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC) EDIT: Yeah, that probably wouldn't look good. Luckily, I'm impartial!--Lachryma 05:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Luckily =). I just added myself to the discussion in order to defend the right thing, and I hope the level of tension my presence added wasn't nearly in the same category as my contributions to the case. I'm trying to be cooler, you know? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
For the record, you seem to be doing a better job of it too. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 06:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! For the record, my vouchs are with you... I mean, with The General... nope, with you =). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[Hmm...the edit confict changes things a bit...oh well] Cooler...cuz of your mod bid, I imagine? But yeah, that whole thing was fethed...and there was no way in hell Sirens was trying to change Gold Blade's behavior, unless saying how the wiki has almost pushed her to be a vandal somehow helps...But I don't care, it's none of my business, and it's over. *takes a deep breath*--Lachryma 06:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Not really because of my Sysop bid Lachryma: it's just a project of mine, and I do get taken more seriously if I don't argue with guys that wouldn't chage their minds anyways. About Sirens, yeah, she wasn't an angel neither, but if the guys that are supposed to serve us make what they want only to vanaglorize themselves, then who are we supposed to entrust with our concerns? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 06:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
True, there's no real point to arguing with most people...And I'm hoping your last question is rhetorical, cuz I can't answer it. Wait, I think I get it...yes, egotistical people in power=bad for my health.--Lachryma 06:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

mod bid

sorry it did not work out, i realy do think you would bring a lot to the team... too many of them are arses and while you are far from perfect you are technically more than wualified and that is all that should count. Keep up the good work and you will have my vote next time. just make sure you tell me you are standing as i don't often pay much attention! --Honestmistake 23:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, and I will! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 01:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


...for the honesty. --Cyberbob Sys U! 04:26, 12 May 2007 (BST)


You lazy bum, you need to archive your talk page! Chop chop! Hmm, there was something, it says this page is 62 kb! Do you know how much 62 kiloby-Oh, I wanted to apologize for the dramatic feth on arbitration. It was my fault, for saying non-thought-out stuff. I'll try to actually think about issues before blabbing on about them. Thanks for putting up with me! Oh, and you know the comment that started this all? It twas the classic "OMFG this is so gay." line. Is lovely, no?--Lachryma 10:06, 13 May 2007 (BST)

I like my talk page as it is, altough the crampled page probably makes guys (and girls) just put things at the bottom instead of thinking on wich section do they belong XD. You really don't need to apologize Lachryma, you're just expressing your POV on the issue, and that's a good thing. I didn't sense a personal attack so it's all cool, and you're a cool person too =). BTW, Xoid didn't invent the bullet style but he was the first one to make elaborate counter-arguments in this wiki by using those. He may have been the first one to use real bullets on a flame war around here, but that's another story... --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 19:26, 13 May 2007 (BST)
Okay, awesome. And I am well aware of Xoid's soul-sucking power. He will be missed! *sobs* Anyway, glad everything is cool now.--Lachryma 15:18, 14 May 2007 (BST)

Excuse Me...

Hello, bot. I see you are doing a great job with those newbie talk pages. Or in terms you'll understand: 101010101010001110101. Anyway, I was wondering if you were programmed to slap trenchcoaters as well?--Lachryma 02:36, 19 May 2007 (BST)

Linea de comandos "Hello, bot. I see..." desconocida. Puede repetir el comando por favor?
Matthew Fahrenheit Spanish talking bot ver 2.1 © 1939-2007 all rights reserved.
--Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 02:48, 19 May 2007 (BST)
Hmm...tricky...well, I will use the classic American method of programming:
/RUN (AWAY)--Lachryma 03:47, 19 May 2007 (BST)
Slapping some trenchies...
Error: too old to give chase.
Program terminated
--Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:54, 19 May 2007 (BST)
Old programs never die, they become agents in The Matrix. Anyway, I will respect my elders and wander off now.--Lachryma 05:16, 19 May 2007 (BST)
Elder?? I didn't survive WWII to be insulted like that! Nah, seriously, I'm only 21. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 05:26, 19 May 2007 (BST)
Wow, you looked like a bot. You are always {{WelcomeNewbie}} and never give others chance :( --JudeMaverick W! TJ! Talk 06:08, 19 May 2007 (BST)
Why there's a negative attitude towards being greeted as a new member of the community? Why should we feel bad if someone puts a template with tips on our talk pages in order to improve our wiki experience? When I first came here I was lectured a bunch of times, even when I had the necessary common sense to evade most common mistakes. That made me a better wiki editor guys! As far as I remember the template was called {{Welcomenewbie}} and not {{Welcomenoob}}. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 09:26, 19 May 2007 (BST)
Well, I want to add {{Welcomenewbie}} too since I'm a Project Welcome member too. Well, I will be more quicker then. --JudeMaverick W! TJ! Talk Zzz... 09:34, 19 May 2007 (BST)
Heh, it's not a competition, but thanks for supporting the use of the template! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 09:36, 19 May 2007 (BST)
Haha, thanks. Now, I'm going to make a {{Welcomen00b}} template XD --JudeMaverick W! TJ! Talk Zzz... 09:45, 19 May 2007 (BST)
[Going back to waaaay up there] 21? Well, you're still my elder. So go take a nap!--Lachryma 18:16, 19 May 2007 (BST)
In my a-times young ladies were so much more a-respectful. BTW, I nominated your sig in the Signature Race, so go and wash my diapers! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 20:57, 19 May 2007 (BST)
No thanks, your nomination appears to have been laughed at for a technicality, so I owe you nothing! Nothing, I tell you!--Lachryma 22:05, 19 May 2007 (BST)


I thank you for your nice welcome on this wiki. Sure it is a little late I edit the wiki for a year now, but better late than never ;). --CannibalX 17:22, 31 May 2007 (BST)

You said it all my friend =). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 19:11, 31 May 2007 (BST)
My God, you've almost filled up Recent Changes with your slimy, slimy ways!--Lachryma 19:20, 31 May 2007 (BST)
Don't edit in-between my ego runs! It makes me feel uneasy! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 19:21, 31 May 2007 (BST)
I had to. [Deep Movie Trailer Voice] Imagine a world...filled with Matthew's edits.[/end creepy voice] I couldn't let it happen!--Lachryma 19:27, 31 May 2007 (BST)
Yeah, you just saved the world. Go and be happy! Next X-mas everyone will see your accomplishments in DVD, with comments by Steven Spielberg and Johnny Depp. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 19:30, 31 May 2007 (BST)
Mmm...Johnny Depp...--Lachryma 19:53, 31 May 2007 (BST)

Dunell Hills

Matt, what's with you going into the GK business? Has the DHPD pissed you off that much? -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 18:57, 2 June 2007 (BST)


yeah, i'm not that great at wiki code. i was wondering what was going on with my sig. thanks it looks great now.--'BPTmz 23:38, 2 June 2007 (BST)

Welcome... Vandal?

do not welcome vandals. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 02:13, 4 June 2007 (BST)

Most of the time I don't. That was a slip because I don't handle around the A/VB a lot, but I didn't welcome most of them, and you have to concede that that was not an obvious vandal name. Anyways, there's no rule concerning how someone can or cannot use a vandal's talk page, while there's a rule that compels Sysops to protect them in order to prevent events like the one you brought up. Your fault not mine =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 13:11, 4 June 2007 (BST)
You welcomed a vandal? Oh, that's just pure gold.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 13:24, 4 June 2007 (BST)
Hahaha, going for most creative page gain Matt? :P -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 13:27, 4 June 2007 (BST)
my fault ? yeah right. The user name was a bunch of random letters and numbers, which looked exactly like most vandal created user names. And it still was my fault... yeah. Kudos for thee matthew. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 13:52, 4 June 2007 (BST)
Thari: Yeah, I did, sue me XD. Boxy: maybe yes, maybe not =p. Hagnat: I'm just being funny, don't get worked up. It's a fact that I am welcoming most newbies with the {{Welcomenewbie}} template, and I did by mistake welcome that vandal because it's almost an automatic action for me to log on and welcome every guy that doesn't have a talk page on Special:Recentchanges. After I welcomed that guy, I realized that there were many guys with names alike and stopped to do that, a proof that I don't care much about my edit count or anything (namely, the Signature Race). I assure you that I'll try to look more carefully to the logs in Special:Recentchanges in order to realize who's a vandal and who isn't, in order to avoid further trouble, but just stop teasing me! And yes, me accusing you of not protecting the page was a joke =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 14:56, 4 June 2007 (BST)
Just for you to know, I just welcomed this guy: User:127_0_0_1. Sounds like a vandal? well, he isn't. I'm off, this McDonald's computer only gives me 15 min. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 15:04, 4 June 2007 (BST)

Thanks for welcoming another vandal. True. This time i only spotted him because i saw you welcoming him and saw his vandalism. But that could be different if you had filled him as vandal in A/VB, instead of welcoming him. And you just said that you were going to avoid welcoming them. Sheesh. And next time try to make better jokes. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 15:23, 4 June 2007 (BST)

Matts copy/pasting a message for new users because we couldn't automate it. So sometimes he makes a mistake because it's copypastsa work. If we would've automated it every vandal would've gotten one. Sure it's silly, but why is this a big deal?--Vista +1 15:48, 4 June 2007 (BST)
Yeah, I noted that that guy was a vandal but my time ran out before I could report him, sorry. I'm out of home as some of you would have noted (and Checkuser evidence could prove even further if you want), as my userpage announces.
Hagnat, as of late I noted that you're kinda isolated, those that were your friends fly off the wiki and the game, and your point of view becomes more and more incomprehensible by new and not so new users alike. I don't think this discussion is going anywhere, and I thank the efforts of people that want to add a little humor to it and those that try to explain you how minimal a issue it is, so I'm leaving this alone. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 19:52, 4 June 2007 (BST)
? Hagnat's no more isolated then I am. He's just less active in the community (He still does editing work. His formatting on the clothes page helped a lot.) Don't confuse lack activity with isolation. Don't be so defensive and as burgundy would say: stay classy. --Vista +1 21:25, 4 June 2007 (BST)
Yeah, I know, I have to be less defensive. I apologize. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 20:20, 5 June 2007 (BST)

Matt, there is an obvious pattern to the login names that this vandal uses. Whenever I come on, and open up the recent changes page, his usernames stand out like the proverbial dog's balls. Tell me what the pattern is in the names of those two users Hagnat pointed out (and the other similar vandal accounts) for my vouch :) -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 04:19, 5 June 2007 (BST)

I suppose we could call him the six almost random characters vandal. The only thing not random is that the fourth character is always capitalized letters. I might be wrong, I'm not on A/VB alot as of lately anyways =P. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 20:11, 5 June 2007 (BST)
That's it. Now you know what to look for (p.s. you'd better let Dux in on it too, he's been welcoming him too) >:) -- boxy T L ZS Nuts2U DA 08:06, 6 June 2007 (BST)

WTF you reported me?

i can't believe you reported me for screwing with my friends page? come on matt. and you bitch about the mods being overzealous at times? dude I have permission to mess with his page. and it only goaded him into doing something on wiki finlly sheesh.----Sexualharrison MR ה TStarofdavid2.png Boobs.gif 22:04, 4 June 2007 (BST)

Pal, don't take it personally. I spotted the "vandalism" by chance when browsing and reported it. You just have to give your explanation of why you did that on the A/VB page, like you did, or if that doesn't attract Sysops attention then contact one of them on his talk page. You have to concede that it did looked like vandalism, but if it just was a joke between friends there's a lack of bad faith and thus, not vandalism. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 20:04, 5 June 2007 (BST)

Can you help me

I tried to make my own signature like you do but im having little success with it. First the ones for my character ended up breaking that link to my talk page by adding a link to their Urban Dead profiles in them and then when i posted a comment in my talk page directed to you oddly enough i discovered that just because the links seemed to work on my signature page doesnt mean its going to work when i post the actual signature. Any tips you can give me on how to make it work right? --Sephikus T01:50, 9 June 2007 (BST)

Oh and I posted my request more clearly on SA's talk page since I wasnt sure you were this active. It's interesting having live conversations on a wiki heh --Sephikus T03:12, 9 June 2007 (BST)

The Wiki Code Stealers

Nice to see you noticed us since as you can see on the page you were a huge "inspiration" for it-- Che -T GC X 04:47, 10 June 2007 (BST)

Yap, I noticed it... bastards! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRCT+1 04:53, 10 June 2007 (BST)
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