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Me Retired? Why For?

The message below is no longer accurate. I blame people other than myself for being dragged back into UD. Every night I fall asleep cursing your names. :P --Mobius 17:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

...and I'm gone again. But not for a lame reason, like I grew out of UD, nah, I switched over into a new-old game with my friends. I have been promoted to "Ye Olde Dungeon Master" for a frolicking awesome good time playing D&D. Yes, this is the truth, and no, I haven't been drinking crazy juice (again). So have an awesome time playing UD without me. Impossible? Yes, I know, but try anyway. For anyone who misses my colourful commentary I highly recommend watching the Daily Show instead. --Mobius 13:05, 20 April 2009 (BST)

Yup. If you're posting a message here you may have a long wait period before I respond, like say never. I have retired from UD and the UD Wiki. As such, please feel free to post only positive comments in which you lay fame and glory at my feet. All other messages would be pointless. Then again, when will I read all the new compliments? Ah, well. Good luck to everyone still playing UD. It really is a great game. :) --Mobius 00:55, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Lies Mobius, lies. We all saw your post on the Dulston Alliance Talk page the other day. Have you trully returned or was this edit a one off? And why even did you leave? Find out next time (that Mobius posts). Yonnua Koponen 17:13, 31 July 2008 (BST)
Gotcha! Updating Treweeke a few hours ago. Is that a comeback?-- [ ρsych°Lychεε ] T 19:30, 31 July 2008 (BST)
Caught you on Whitlock this time. Seriously, stop pretending. Yonnua Koponen 12:21, 3 September 2008 (BST)
I just found an update of yours just before Xmas 2008. If you are back on even a semi-permanent basis, please contact me. I would like some advice and opinions on my group page, after seeing some of the amazing work you've already done. --Maverick 09:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't believe you.. 'Status Report: The fighting has apparently died down recently, and the number of zombies standing at Otto Street has diminished. --Mobius 14:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC)' on BAR's Otto Street report.. 'In the meantime, Alliance recon continued to scour the area searching for hidden pockets of criminals and reporting them to the competition's scorekeeper, none other than noted NecroTech scientist Caleb Usher.'Tec7890 T RCDC NW 13:17, 29 June 2010 (BST)
I'm totally not here anymore. I left. Poof! Like magic. And on another matter altogether, why aren't you reporting scans to NecroWatch anymore? For shame! I move on and most of the people who posted scans stopped reporting in. What will become of the mighty NecroWatch Project? --Mobius 00:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
That proves it at last.. he is here?! Anyway, I HAVE reported scans. Also having to guard stuff is a pain. You have to get ammo.. You need to barricade.. you need to fuel generators.. Anyway. I'm back. Tec7890 T RCDC NW 00:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC) Tec7890 T RCDC NW 00:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

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Caleb Usher has been featured on my journal! Please check it out! -- Ghita 02:20, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Yep. I got out while the gettin' was good. --Mobius 13:44, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

While you're here

There's a motion in the lodge you may be interested in, since it could well shake the very architecture of the Dulston Alliance in ways incomprehendable to mankind. Thought you might be interested. (P.s. In case you're confused by my sig, this is Yonnua)--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature3 20:55, 27 October 2010 (BST)

Nice try Trotsky! Your communist machinations may have heralded the overthrow of the Russian Provisional Government, but they won't work on me. No sir! Still... I'll drop by the forum, but I'm not sure my opinion carries much weight these days ever since my retirement months ago from all things UD. --Mobius 13:28, 28 October 2010 (BST)

Dulston Alliance Forums

I've decided to pop back, and have found my beloved NecroTech in ruins. I want vengeance, and I also want to see Croooow again. What is this Beerhah Forum you talk about? Tec7890 T RCDC NW 13:13, 29 June 2010 (BST)

Wow. This is old, but I should respond nonetheless. I've been retired/out-of-the-loop for months now (as my late response proves). Other things to do and all that. The Dulston Alliance forum used to be where I would send people looking to restore buildings in Dulston. That's also where Bane Croooow hangs out, or at least he did when I was still around in June/July. Anywho, if you read this and it helps, man, have you waited a while for it. If not, well good, hopefully that means you already found what you were looking for in a far more reasonable amount of time than it took for me to respond. FYI, I'm still retired, but I just hate loose ends... --Mobius 19:59, 27 October 2010 (BST)

Minor mistake

Known PKer or PKer group... Guess you meant "PKer or GKer group". Or "PKer PKer group", but I doubt that you generally reject bounty hunters. -- Spiderzed 15:14, 5 May 2010 (BST)

Actually I'm not in the Dulston Alliance. I'm just REALLY helpful. The original text "Known PKer or PKer Group" actually referred to Dulston Alliance policy which forbade allowing infamous PKers (individuals) or PKer groups from allying or joining them. However I can see how it might look like it meant to say "GKer". I suppose it could be updated to mention GKers, but there are just so few GKer groups out there. Bounty hunter groups would be allowed to join up, provided they're in good standing. --Mobius 15:42, 5 May 2010 (BST)

Black List/Iwitness

RE this update, you might like this this information--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 03:15, 3 May 2010 (BST)

I take it you're referring to my removal of iWitness links from the Black List, yeah, that took a while but the Dulston Alliance wanted proof for crimes, not broken links and as we both know iWitness has been down for a while now.
Hmmm. So I gather from what I've read that the suggested approach is to visit Karek's "temporary" iWitness folder and grab screenshots (or just point to them and hope the files stay there). I like that idea of taking screenshots and it meshes with what the Dulston Alliance has been discussing recently. They plan to open a shared account on a file sharing server (i.e. ImageShack) and uploaded every screenshots posted on the Black List to it. The objective being to preserve the evidence so there won't be any broken links down the road. It's surprising that even the RG has broken links, and some of those aren't even iWitness reports. Thanks again for the information.
P.S. Is Druboo still active? --Mobius 13:21, 3 May 2010 (BST)
Nah, I formally retired for almost 6 months now, heh. I just drag myself away from the other stuffs. lol. Broken links are a plague. Imageshack stuff has been disappearing!--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 20:11, 3 May 2010 (BST)
Well thanks for the update. --Mobius 00:42, 4 May 2010 (BST)

Zombie Hunting Season

I've reviewed the entire contest, so I've updated the scores and I have an accurate zombie kill count. Just a matter of enquiry... does the contest end at the beginning of the 21st, or the end? as in, which midnight is it? :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:10, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Traditionally the end date was the final day, so hunters would still get a chance to hunt zombies during that day. However, at midnight GMT on that day I ended the competition. For me that's 7:00 PM, which gave me enough time to sort out the competition details after I had posted that the competition was official over and had locked the thread. Then after I had tallied all the scores I would unlock the thread to post the results and let people respond. --Mobius 13:24, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
So I can still do things on the 21st?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Yup. You can report any kills or other score-worthy actions up until 7:00 PM (EST), or midnight (GMT). --Mobius 14:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Brilliant. I'm gonna try and make a play for the assist one. First place is completely out of my grasp by now.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Burchell Arms Status Update

I made some edits to your Burchell Arms status update. I took parts of it as a shot at my group and parts as pure conjecture. I thus removed the material I found questionable and tried to make the update more neutral. If you think this is unjustified, perhaps we could come to some compromise about what the update should say. --Moctezuma The Streltsy :) 12:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Nope, I don't see anything wrong with what you edited. As this is public (or semi-public) news I try to keep it objective. However you are correct that it was only an assumption that you would only target BAR members rather than local survivors. --Mobius 13:01, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I agree with you that us only targeting BAR members is an assumption but I was more bothered by the stuff about us not being able to overwhelm BAR. I found that rather insulting- if I had made an update that claimed we were going to overwhelm BAR it would obviously violate neutrality. Why should the opposite claim, then, be considered objective? I don't think it's the place of a location page to evaluate my group's ability in what we do. Anyways, thanks for being understanding. --Moctezuma The Streltsy :) 13:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Me being understanding? I could have sworn you were the one being understanding and not blowing this out of propertion at my pro-BAR bias. ;) --Mobius 13:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

NT Watch

I see that the posts re:Ribbons, etc... were moved to the Archive. I had a suggestion but didn't know if it would be read anytime soon. What if someone were able to get NT scans from 'burbs where there were no NTs? Would that merit a special commendation?--Dr Mycroft Chris 00:14, 1 April 2009 (BST)

That or the rubber room. I haven't checked lately, but how would you acquire a scan from a suburb without an NT building in it? I will need to perhaps revise the ribbons section to summarize the suggestions made to date so we can better "harness" these potentially golden ideas. --Mobius 13:14, 1 April 2009 (BST)
ha ha ha ! Trust me I can do it...for science! Rolt Heights is half a 'burb away with no NT; I'm currently in Dulston and will finish up here soon. In a day or so, I will have that scan. Once you see how I accomplish it (and you'll LOL), I recommend any noobies who wish to qualify for this have to figure it out to qualify,HA!--Dr Mycroft Chris 13:57, 1 April 2009 (BST)
Interesting. The only way I can think you could to something like this would be to maybe use binnoculars, maybe from several buildings, and then compile it into one "scan" image to get the same scale. That would be my guess. While I'm all for a mystery ribbon, whenever I consider a new ribbon I like to ask myself a couple of questions to see whether it's a good idea. Those questions include: How difficult is it to earn the ribbon? Is it more of a challenge or an annoyance (if too difficult)? --Mobius 14:19, 1 April 2009 (BST)
DONE--Dr Mycroft Chris 03:36, 4 April 2009 (BST)
Hmmm. Looks like outdoor recon (or maybe even z-recon)... compiled into a single image? That would be my guess. --Mobius 16:09, 4 April 2009 (BST)
I am not familiar with that term, "outdoor recon," I scouted from the top of Mare then cut and pasted the images all together into one "scan," just as you suggested it could be done. It does require a bit more effort (...but not THAT much) than the standard scan procedure but in areas without our beloved NTs, it can be a useful tool/method for reporting zed concentrations. Now we can claim that all of Malton is effectively covered by ALICE--Dr Mycroft Chris 22:59, 4 April 2009 (BST)
True, but I'm not sure there are that many dedicated people who would consider going this far to provide information. I suppose the only real factor here is, where would this recon information be stored, as it's not connected to a NT building? On the matter of recon, I can't speak for everyone, but in the Alliance recon is classified in three forms: outdoor recon (recon gathered from outside), indoor recon (recon gathered from inside buildings, usually several), or z-recon (recon, indoor or outdoor, gathered while a zombie). It's still a nice recon map that would probably be useful to a suburb facing zombie troubles (especially in NT blind spots or when generators/fuel are lacking so a normal scan cannot be done). Definitely worthy of an A for effort. ;) --Mobius 23:20, 4 April 2009 (BST)
I hope you don't mind but I used my superior Wiki Code Stealing Abilities and created a repository for these type "scans" @ NecroWatch/ScoutReports. Take a look, if the idea is ultimately voted down, I'm fine with that. Regardless, the idea will, I expect, take some time to be fully accepted. To make sure that people get the info without hunting for it, I thought just placing it on their suburb page would suffice for now (See:Rolt Heights)unless the template for the other NTs can be modified in such a way to utilize these scout reports in a special case sort of way--Dr Mycroft Chris 03:15, 5 April 2009 (BST)
I'm fine with it. But we'll probably need to discuss it over on NecroWatch Talk with the others. --Mobius 03:22, 5 April 2009 (BST)

Hello Again

I am very impressed with your contributions to the Wiki. You are a skilled narrator with an interesting perspective and your gift for propaganda rivals that of Leni Riefenstahl (I'm not implying your goals were the same), despite the difference in medium. How long have you been doing this?--Bishop Vagancia I 17:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Well I'm an old hand at this, having started up back in 2006. I started off playing UD, then I quit UD, started up editing location wikipages in the suburbs that used to be my one-time survivor's stomping grounds, and then progressed to group wikipages. Boxy liked my work and got me promoted to Mod, where I didn't accomplish anything truly astounding, just clean-up work. Later I retired from the UD wiki and came back in the past year. Mostly these days I keep to either my NecroWatch wiki project or my work with the Dulston Alliance. I'm sort of a keystone over there, which means I'll one day need to find someone to replace me lest my sudden departure cause havoc. Right at this moment I'm creating two historic wikipages for the Hang 'Em High competition and Zombie Hunting Season. I had just finished the historic wikipage for the Dulston Alliance's 3rd Anniversary. So how about you? What are you up to around these parts? As always I try to interest people with spare time in NecroWatch. ;) --Mobius 21:30, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Groser Crescent Police Department

Hello, Im relatively new to UD, but I have done extensive reading on the wiki about almost anything I would need to know. I have noticed that on the GCPD page, it says you have interest in establishing a relation with the precinct, or something along those lines. Im currently residing there, and honestly, we haven't had much trouble recently. If you would like to establish communication, I might be able to get a radio transmitter in, and a couple of the regular residents have the Radio skill, so I hope I can fulfill your want, if it truly is. I like the pic of John Stewart by the way, funny guy. I like Steven Colbert more though. If you want to talk, get on twitter. My Urban Dead twitter is TurokPachenkoUD. I hope we can work something out. Thanks! --Turok 22:18 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I Guess I should have put dates on some of those comments. I think I posted that back in 2007. Man oh man, how the times change. To be honest I don't play UD anymore, but I do keep tabs on things and help out on the UD Wiki side. If you are new to UD I would suggest joining a group, as it really helps out at low-levels to have people you can trust reviving and working with you. If you want my opinion, based on your location, I would suggest joining the BAR. Their main HQ is the Burchell Arms, a pub just across the border in Rolt Heights, but they have buildings under their stewardship in Pescodside. Drop by their forum and I doubt you'll regret it. They're pretty laid back and they plan to have a St. Patrick's Day celebration soon. Probably a good time to join them. Wish I could be more help, but if you do join the BAR, or even the Dulston Alliance, then I'm sure we'll be chatting some more on their respective forums. Have fun. :) --Mobius 23:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello Mobius187!

Sorry to have interrupted your usual Necrowatch updates in the suburb earlier. Anyway I wanted to extend mine and Umbrella's hand for a proposal of hopefully a mutual outcome. With the zed hordes spreading across Malton it would be very likely that we were to often leave our Headquarters with less than a skeleton crew most times being that we are busy with operations. We were wondering if you could be our friendly neighborhood watchdog and let us know of anything going on that might be threatening to our H.Q. or Ruddlebank/Lockettside. Our forums are in the process of transition, but if you register here:, we can direct you as to where to post the warnings, especially if they are an emergency. I hope we can offer you something in return other than just assistance in keeping the neighborhood safe, so just let us (or me) at the forums know. Thank you!--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 14:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I would like to render assistance, however NecroWatch is not the means by which any NT location, or suburb, can be monitored or maintained on a consistent basis. The fact is NecroWatch is not a group or even an organization, it's a project like the Rogues Gallery. Any player playing UD may sign-up their characters and/or alts to join NecroWatch, but each member 9and their alts) work on their own and even different players do not mutually work together. Some do however work with other groups. Furthermore each member is as mobile or stationary as they choose to be, which may be on a whim as they do not receive orders from NecroWatch. We have members who monitor from only a single NT daily, members who patrol between 2-4 suburbs sporadically, and even members who wander almost aimlessly around Malton at their whimsy or disappear for weeks at a time. The goal of the project is to provide NecroNet scans to the masses, and by doing so, help the average survivor be mindful of the zombie menace. My role in all of this is to make players aware of this service by posting scan reports in suburb news when they are available. I try to also encourage players to join the project, especially if I see they are interested in reporting scans on a small scale... I can only imagine how many scans go unreported and are lost on a daily basis. You are of course free to review our member list and contact any individuals who currently monitor Ruddlebank/Lockettside and request their support, but the decision on whether they choose to help is entirely their own. Lastly, as this is a project many members have existing group affiliations and some might even be criminals, as the project doesn't discriminate against anyone requests to join, so long as they report scans. I hope this helps clarify the situation and I wish you luck in your own endeavors. --Mobius 18:16, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Understood! Thank you.--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 14:05, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Pleased to meet you!

Thanks for the invite into NecroWatch. And there I was, thinking I was updating Sainders out of the goodness of my own heart. Now I know it's cause ALICE put something in my shoes while I slept. I did have a question, though. I see a lot of NW users have scan reports but most are 6 months to a year out of date. Are we supposed to be reporting our scans somewhere, or do you honestly go through NT pages every day looking for new edits? I suppose the same question applies to badges; let's say I go and grab a scan from Ridleybank. Does someone acknowledge I did so, or do I add the ribbon on my own? Thanks again! ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 19:03, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

RE: "...or do you honestly go through NT pages every day looking for new edits?...". I chose the craziest option possible, so yes, I do that. *wink*. Actually I went to the trouble of putting Monitors on every NT user page, so whenever someone edits one of them, I know about it. As a member of NecroWatch however there are very few tasks you need to do other than posting a new scan image and time stamping it, which you have been doing so far. However, there are a few other tasks you can look into. The first is whenever you report from an NT building for the very first time, drop by the NT Scan Index, locate the NT building you updated (it's organized by building name), and copy your timestamp in the last entry just like all the ones before your signature. This is our way of saying "Hey, I joined NecroWatch and this is when I first reported here". Some of our members wanted to keep track of how well they were doing that way. It also acts as an easier way to track which buildings you have scanned from when it comes to collecting ribbons. The only other thing you need to update would be your total scans. Visit the NecroWatch Team list and edit your entry to include any new scans you have made. As a reminder, always check the Edit History first as I, from time to time, may see someone has not been adding to their total scans and I will do it for them. I will always mention the user's name in the Edit History however as a way you can determine as up to which date your last scans were added. Any scan added after that date obviously has not been added and you may proceed in adding those scans to your total. We're just trying to avoid cases where two or more people count the same scan when updating their totals. As to your last question, how the ribbons work, you are free to activate any ribbons you haved earned by yourself, however some degree of "proof" is required. In most cases the scan itself acts as proof, so if you plan to report from the Blackmore Building, once you've posted the scan, that's your proof. For ribbons like Ghost Recon or Combat Recon, you need to validate with me which suburb your claiming it for so I can officially confirm it's all good, as in the past there has been some confusion. Overall though I'm fairly lenient, as this is all for fun and I don't like dinging people on technicalities if I can help it. Your best bet however is to ask me first and I'll confirm if getting certain NT scans will lead to a ribbon. Good luck collecting lots of ribbons... perhaps you might even aim to acquire the SW Recon Master? ;) --Mobius 19:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Just wanted to let you know, I stole a bunch of your code and my userpage looks pretty good as a result. I hope you don't mind, please and thank you. ~ extropymine Talk | NW | 4Corners 04:59, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
No worries. You are free to use whatever wikicode I have, that's exactly how the UD Wiki works after all. In turn one day someone might borrow your wikicode for one of their wikipages. Anywa, I'm glad that my userpage was able to inspire you. Good luck with your userpage. Good luck and have fun. ;) --Mobius 14:56, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Hope ya don't mind

But I created a redirect for the Black List--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 17:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I see no problem with that. --Mobius 19:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Code Query

Mobius, a simple question: Do you have the required wiki knowledge to create the code necessary for getting NT scans to reset to a blank scan image after a set period of time spent un-edited? VI 04:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I actually read about your post on this topic elsewhere and spent a good chunk of time trying to figure out how to set this up. Normally the best way to logically code what you suggested would be to setup a variable to store the current date and the initial image (scan) upload date. Then you force a comparison that would take the individual values and determine if they exceed a set amount (i.e. 2 months). Then it's a simple true/false statement to set it to the current image or the static GIF. Unfortunately wikicode doesn't appear to handle multiple variables that well. After a while I gave-up on it and figured we could just employ a manual process or leave them as non-static. I admit however that scans from June 2008... not very useful. I wish the search option in iWitness wasn't gone or else I would have found more than the handful I located by scouring public iWitness reports... but that's another story. One day I may come back to it and see if there is anything I can do with the variables I have seen or figuring out a way to interact with an image's date value... but for now it doesn't appear to be likely. --Mobius 04:24, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


I gave you guys at the DA too much credit. On my way to the mall, you know what I saw... its ruined! How am I going to get my bullets to kill the PDA? The Second Coming is going to bleed you guys dry. --Spoook 01:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Words sure are nice. I know I like them. I like them because you can say a lot of things with them, but then what are words unless you can back them up? I for one think you're far more bark, than bite. You're really just another PKer who came out of the woodwork, and soon enough back you'll go again. You know I could sit here all day and mock you, or over on the PDA's talk page, but I figured both of us would prefer to let actions speak louder than words. And besides, I have better things to do. I'm a busy guy, I figured you were too... I guess not. But hey, if you want to grandstand with little to nothing under your belt so far, feel free to go for it. It amuses me. In truth, and I hate to tell you this... a little, the Dulston Alliance rates you as a small fry. When I mentioned your name, like I promised you I would so they knew you meant business, they actually thought I was kidding. After all, there wasn't much left of Maris Viridis after its ill-fated war against the Alliance. A bad call if you ask me, but hey, it's a game after all and sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Anyway we all figured you had run off for greener pastures, which I guess you did since you were over in Starlington. As for the mall falling, well, we figured there were a lot of PKers in town so we'd make things interesting. The mall really doesn't interest the Dulston Alliance that much. I mean it's nice, but not that great. Anywho, I'm kinda busy revamping the RHVP wikipage so I con't really want to spend too much time here. Not that it's that interesting a conversation. It's like a 6 out of 10. My hope is I've said enough for both of us so that we don't need any further idle chit-chat. Have fun. --Mobius 03:07, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
You can't back up words unless you have bullets, if fact I'm really unable to do much without them. You make a better diplomat then Ottari. --Spoook 21:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
In my case words are all I have these days. In the forums and here on the UD wiki, as I have retired from UD (the game). You wouldn't believe how depressed some PKers become after hearing they can't kill me, but them's the breaks. If it makes them feel better the only 3 times I ever died was due to PKing. Zombies got nothin' on me, but apparently too much friendly chatter in Treweeke Mall proved fatal three times in a row for me! If you look around you might be able to find a news post or two I added back then about at least one of the incidents. I recall how there were so few zombies in Dulston those days that zombies were commonly attacked waiting at official RPs. Very annoying. Anywho, I finished my update of the RHVP wikipage. It's looking pretty sweet. I make make some touch-ups though. Now I shall go make some medals for the D.I.T.P.S, or should I say "finish" making them, and then I need to spend some time creating template trophies for the new PKer manhunt... busy-busy. Anyway, keep having fun. --Mobius 23:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I just a contract 20 minutes ago, so I'll be leaving, but I'll be back later. Yeah I heard you stop playing UD for awhile now, what a shame. --Spoook 01:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

The one time I don't come to the DA to stir trouble, you shoot me. And whats this about a contest? I hear from the other pkers that there is a contest going on, you could at least tell the players involved, like me. By the way can you make me a Anti-H.A.T. template, because I shoot just about anything, pkers or proles.--Spoook 03:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC) PS, I won't be in the area for much longer, got a contract. Just thought I should tell you for your book keeping. (Do I get a template for getting Shot?)

Ah, you're referring to the Hang 'Em High competition. Targets include anyone in a known PKer group, on the Black List, or who is infamous. As you're on the Black List you're a target. Also, because last time you commented that you wanted some extra fun I made sure you were added to the "Top 10 Most Wanted" list (10th place... but hey you're on the list). That means you're worth an extra point when executed (3 in total) for the competition. My recommendations are still the same as last time, if you would prefer not to be shot at either leave the area (the DA won't follow you) or ask for clemency (i.e. promise not to commit any further crimes like killing survivors who are not criminals, and by criminals I'm of course referring to those on the Black List). Your call. The last option is to just try and avoid being hunted until you're done in the area. The competition is strictly for members of the Alliance and its allies... you know... to make things in UD fun for bounty hunters. Let me know what you decide, if you want clemency I can always help move the process along, but I gathered from our last chat you didn't want to give up your current lifestyle. As for the template, are you referring to the "Honor Among Thieves Policy"? I might be able to whip something up, but not right away. --Mobius 05:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah the Honor among thiefs, yeah. I will say I had a good laugh getting killed by noobert, thats is the funnist person I have every gotten killed by. I just came back to resupply, but I can't stay. 10th place?--Spoook 15:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
N00bert always does his best when it comes to entertaining people. The 10th place was based on voting, with people voting based on who they felt was a real threat/annoyance. You ended up with enough votes to be on the list, but in 10th place. This either means people didn't feel threatened by you or you just haven't bothered that many people. Either or. And as per your request, here's a sweet new template for you to enjoy (template code: {{NHAT}} ):
NoHAT.png No Honor Among Thieves
This user or group believes there is no such thing as honor among thieves. There is only the client and the target. Whether the target is a innocent survivor, bounty hunter, or criminal in the end they're all as good as dead when it comes to fulfilling the contract. Honor? There is no place in Malton for that nonsense.
What do you think? Classy, isn't it? I considered what you wanted it for and made it accordingly. I hope it meets your requirements. As I stated above, if you ever change your mind and want to just be a bounty hunter contact the Dulston Alliance, get that clemency, and help kick PKer butt in the northeast. Let us know. Oh, and if you are going to be in the area I would suggest avoiding buildings that are under direct Alliance control... or else you'll end up dead. Just some advice. --Mobius 17:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Looks good man, I think I'll take your advice and leave for the time being. When the DA wants do shooting, it dose it. I almost had noobert too, but got unlucky in the odds. --Spoook 23:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I just realized Lemonhead7t7 is a wanted man, & so is his group. I request clemency, and will begin to hunt them down.--Spoook 23:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, a while back I'm told Lemonhead7t7 lost his temper and killed a few people connected to FOXHOUND and the Imperium. As such he is a wanted criminal... and as it should happen Druboo himself (or herself, since I'm referring the character) executed Lemonhead7t7 as part of the Hang 'Em High competition. Moving along, if you wish to request clemency this is what you need to do:
  1. Sign-up on the DA forum here (I believe your old account was deleted during a clean-up of unused accounts):
  2. Once registered post your request for clemency in this thread:
  3. In your post give the link to your character profile and state that you agree never to commit any further crimes. Crimes include PKing (innocent/non-criminal survivors), GKing, RKing, and the usually naughtiness. Basically you state you are going to be pro-survivor, but you can still be a bounty hunter if you prefer.
  4. While not required, give a good reason why you should be granted clemency.
At this stage your post will be answered, maybe by me, and you will be informed that a case review has been started. This review takes place in the Lodge during which every leader in the Alliance gets to speak for or against you. After this is done a vote will be taken. The process takes about a week. I suggest during this period two courses of action: either stay out of the area or be pro-survivor towards DA members, especially group leaders (i.e. N00bert, Officer Murphy, ect) as this may reflect in your judgement. But be prepared if you stay in the area, because your conviction is not appealed until after the case review so you will still be a target during this period. --Mobius 03:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Can't I just kill the PDA and be allowed to do so in peace?--Spoook 01:31, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately criminals killing other criminals doesn't count towards amnesty. The Dulston Alliance isn't so much concerned about that as they are about when you happen to kill someone who isn't a criminal... and since they wouldn't know when you would opt to do that (since you're obviously not obligated to tell them) they must assume you're killing innocent survivors every so often. As such, the rules set by the Alliance Charter dictate that all criminals are punished forever until such time as they either leave the area or are granted clemency. Also, and this may put a downer on your plans, the general sentiment over on the Alliance forum is that Lemonhead7t7 isn't a criminal... and it may not be long before he is granted clemency (but he needs to ask for it first for a case review to begin). So all-in-all I'm not sure if you would benefit from clemency if all you wanted it for was hunting him. And without it there is no gaurantee you won't be hunted yourself. Also, and I should mention this, not every request for clemency is granted it all depends on how the case review's final vote turns out, but there is usually a better than 50% chance it will be granted (the Alliance works on a "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." policy, so clemency the first time is plausible... the second time around, almost impossible). I still say, if you're not interested in clemency, your best option is just to stay outside the 4 northeast suburbs and you shouldn't be bothered by the Dulston Alliance. But hey, that's your call. --Mobius 11:23, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Burchell Arms

Hate to be the one to have to break it to you, but the Burchell Arms is ruined, DA is slouched over the bar, gnawing on the beer taps, frustrated because he doesn't remember how to get the good stuff flowing :P -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:43 25 November 2008 (BST)

GASP! That's what I get for reporting news from the BAR's forums rather than seeing it with my own eyes. If you haven't already feel free to update the news accordingly. Actually update the news on any location you know about. All of my information is second-hand after all since I don't play UD anymore. ;) --Mobius 13:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
No worries. I went brainROT RUM PKing there for a while, after Dead Animals/Redux. There's only a couple of other DAs left (AFAIK)... we're pretty feral these days -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:13 25 November 2008 (BST)
Pity about the DA and DA Redux. I've seen lots of good groups fade away over time. Have you considered putting your old group up for historical nomination? If you ever do, I'll certainly vote for it. :) --Mobius 14:17, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Na, we were never big enough, or did anything spectacular. Just persistent pains in the arse that got caught up in the wrong suburb for a small group of zombies ;) -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:23 25 November 2008 (BST)


Great New poster at whitlock. Thanks. Yonnua Koponen 18:40, 25 September 2008 (BST)

Not a problem. --Mobius 21:59, 25 September 2008 (BST)
HOW ON EARTH DID I MISS THIS!?!?!?!?!?! Yonnua Koponen 07:46, 21 October 2008 (BST)

Drive-by edits!

Something tells me you really didn't escape malton after all. ;) Welcome back? --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 19:13, 19 June 2008 (BST)

Just wanted you to know we're going to be ratifying the Alliance Charter you made a while ago, and will be using it as a template for the Northeastern Union. Nobody thanked you properly for that, and it was some piece of work. Thanks a lot Mobius, really. --Kikashie Read the Dispatch! 04:54, 14 July 2008 (BST)
I would like to thank you for that, as well. Having taken the time to read over it, and making a few constructive edits to reflect the present nature of the Dulston Alliance, it is an excellent guide for that humble supergroup we know and love in the NE corner. Your work was, and always will be, greatly appreciated. If you ever choose to return, there's a few pints from the Burchell Arms waiting in the fridge at the Fortress of Science! Ottari DA PDA NW Read the Dispatch!


Are you gone... forever? Also, may you tell me about this way out of Malton? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:13, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Yup. I'm gone for good. There were two times before that I thought I was going, but after telling everyone I was going I never did that. This time I realized I had left UD after I noticed I hadn't come by the UD Wiki in over two weeks. Then I knew it had finally happened. Like the grim reaper, swift and silent. As for how to escape Malton, you don't need me to tell you. You'll find your own way out eventually, just like I did. I will say this, the way out is in the last place anyone ever ends up looking... ;) --Mobius 23:10, 24 April 2008 (BST)
:( 16 More NTs to complete the Nw/NT DB.. Good bye. Oh and I feel like I'm at a funeral now.(phsshh maybe he'll get re-airdropped in someday :D)--Tec7890 T RCDC NW 02:19, 25 April 2008 (BST)
I was right. Today, I stand here. I think the plane has come. Tec7890 T RCDC NW 00:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Just report some scans already. Do it. Dooooooo iiiiit. <*peer pressure*> --Mobius 02:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and while you're at it. Register on the Dulston Alliance forum already. We've already got one RCDC member here... we want more! --Mobius 02:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

NecroWatch Eye Symbol Origin

I was wondering where you acquired the eye symbol used on the NW pages. Perhaps you could enlighten me? -- User:VI/signature 14:20, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Through the power of Google my friend. I was searching using random key words like "watch" and "monitor", or some combination thereof, when I stumbled across the image. From what I could tell it was a stained glass window which I edited slightly with Photoshop (i.e. removed bordering glass, adjusted alignment, cleaned-up image, ect). I certainly liked the final product. --Mobius 12:59, 31 March 2008 (BST)


Hi. I've discussed with my group your offer to help with the wiki page, and we'd welcome any help you could give. Viktor's been working on it a lot, and it seems he's pretty good with layout stuff (which I'm not). Anyway, you're welcome to help out with it if you wish. Thanks. :) --Emerald Green 09:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

SW Malton Necrotech Choice

Mobius: I choose the Cheeke Building. It has always played a key role in the recurring sieges of Thomson Mall, especially in 2005 and 2006. Seems kind of like a Southwestern Fortress of Science. --Ottari 01:55, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Greetings from the Abandoned!

Hey Caleb: First off, may I congratulate the Dulston Alliance as a whole for surviving that entire Big Bash ordeal, and the ruination that came afterward that lasted for weeks on end. I wish I could say the same for Yagoton. Rampant destruction of nearly all buildings in the area and the few remaining ferals have sent our members scouring for any safehouse in the area, as we try to contact what few allies we have left in the suburb, as well as attempting to maintain a revive point. After seeing that Dulston had returned to Green status, a few of our members have been sent on missions to your suburb in order to restock on much needed supplies of FAK's and revification syringes. For security reasons, these members will not be listed, but I humbly ask that the Dulston Alliance welcome them into the suburb, and give them safe haven while they gather goods to dole out to their comrades back home. Rest assured, our members entering Dulston will be equally gracious.

--Private Mark 00:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

As allies of the Dulston Alliance your group has every right to come to Dulston for supplies. Actually even if you had no alliance you would be welcome, as the DA doesn't turn away pro-survivor groups seeking supplies/shelter. A recent discussion with The Imperium had us explain that the DA doesn't "own" suburbs, but rather just helps keep them safe, whether by providing medical/revive services, or by punishing criminals so they attack DA operatives over the average unaligned survivor just minding his own business. Of course the best way to contact the DA is through its forums. Kikashie, one of the forum admins, recently revamped security so that everything is now ordered by forum group filters, so if you do have an account there let me know (here) so that I can grant you increased access. On that note, I will make sure that, if you haven't already posted the news, that the Alliance is made aware of your situation. I cannot speak for the Alliance leadership (as I have no rank/powers other than forum/wiki administrative ones), but I will inquire whether they can provide assistance. At the very least, if your group members are seeking revivals they will find them in Dulston/Pescodside. Also, be sure to check NecroWatch to updated NecroNet scans that may provide further tactical information. No matter what though, good luck. --Mobius 12:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

SE Recon

According to my data i've completed SE recon. you can check if this is needed --~~~~ [talk] 08:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I have confirmed it. Congrats on earning the SE Master Recon ribbon medal. :) --Mobius187 13:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Just want to keep you updated: I wasn't arround any NW updating for awhile. One word - Monroeville. Ok, actually two: mapping Monroeville. Anyway, it's weekends and i finally found time to log on my malton characters (i think i lost about 150-200AP by ignoring them lately) and made some NecroWatch scans. Luckily enough, got myself All Seeing Eye in the process and [more than] 150 scans(!). Also i'm near the end of SW recon (6 left) - it has much less NTs than other forths. heh. --~~~~ [talk] 15:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually i'm 1 NT far from claiming the SW too - i even have gen and fuel for it already, waiting for enough AP charge to scan and get away. About NT is SE, after a thought i've chosen The Malcolm Building as the "fort perryn's one" it has some history unlike most of other NTs in the area. --~~~~ [talk] 17:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Good luck with that scan, as it would appear we'll need to update your medal on the Members wikipage then. Your NT decision has been noted and I will proceed with creating the appropriate medal ribbon. Now I just need to hear back from Ottari. --Mobius 19:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Done. SW earned too. Notably, there was a real-time combat with a zombie in the last NT, i talked to it in Death Rattle, but it din't respond :/ , so i've resolved this issue by leaving the hungry zombe behind and going away. --~~~~ [talk] 11:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

My Work on Suburb Locations

Interested in my work on updating location wikipages? It's my hobby. Most of my work can be found in Dulston, then Pescodside, followed up by the group wikipages in those two suburbs. To some extent I've even made updates in Rhodenbank and Rolt Heights, but only minor ones. My goal is to have every location in the NE Corner with its own wikipage, and from there, hopefully other users will be inspired to add more in-game content (i.e. "Current News") that other players will find useful or at least add interesting historical value to the location.


Regarding this edit. Please don't remove the template from any location page unless the location doesn't appear on the list of Amusing Locations in Malton. If you feel that it doesn't belong on the list and that the template should be removed, you can put the location in question up for review on Talk:Amusing Locations in Malton. Thanks.--Nallan (Talk) 07:56, 6 August 2008 (BST)

Weston Crescent

Alright, the zombies got me in Troubridge but I made the recon nonetheless. Weston is up and intact, though no power, and with cades at EHB (last checked).

If it's not too much trouble, could you direct someone up that way? I'm stuck outside the place and I'd rather not go through the ordeal of getting killed six times while I work my way to Duport.--Boris 00:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. Thanks again for the report and, if you haven't already, make sure you take credit for the status update on that location. --Mobius187 13:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Can do. One last update; don't send anyone else. I've made it to Duport (barely, and despite being headshot by some idiot) and should be back in the running by tomorrow. --Boris 17:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Good luck. :) --Mobius187 17:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Quarlesbank NTs

Hello there, I just want to say thank you for your work on said NTs! It's really nice that you took the time to do them all and they really add some 'pazzaz' to the suburb. I'm actually a member of the group which runs The Elson Building so seeing the NTs nearby having such a wiki remake is really good. So yes I hope everything works out with your project, good luck and thank you once again! I'll try and update it whenever possible but i'm currently pre-occupied with other things. Still, thanks...again and I hope i have put this message in the right place! Acoustic Pie 20:12, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Yup this is the right place. As of a few days ago I completed similar updates for every NT location wikipage in Malton, so there isn't a single one that doesn't have the same level of content. I think that what I've done sets the stage for other users to step in and further improve those locations. If you have some free time, feel free to add further unique touches to the building's description, or adjust anything that requires further details specific to Quarlesbank or your group. As for the Elson Building, well, it's Christmas so I took the liberty of giving your location wikipage a little make-over to help spruce it up. I hope you like it. :) --Mobius187 17:21, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Wow, thank you very much and thank you for taking the time to do the make over! All of us in the building wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! And if your character is ever in the suburb, feel free to pop round to the building and say hello. =) I wish you well in all ther other projects that you do in the future and if you need a hand with any please don't feel afraid to ask. Acoustic Pie 17:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Necrotech Icons

Hi, thanks, I'm glad you like the icons. I'm flattered that you want to replace the old Necrotech image with the NT icon I made - but replacing them wiki-wide is a huge undertaking. It would save work and may be easier just to replace the old (current) NecroTech image with an updated one (with the same dimensions so as not to mess up any layouts or custom things), I have a half-assed attempt at making a "nice" replacement here but I can do better if you want to go down this route, otherwise sticking to the icon is fine but you may have to do each instance individually.--Sunil 22:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

It's certainly no bother for me to include your icon in every NT wikipage, as I'm in the midst of updating those wikipages regardless as part of Project NecroWatch. So far I've updated the NT wikipages for 20 suburbs, so just about 80 more to go. Keep up the great work. --Mobius187 23:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Location Pictures

Hey, I'm still amazed every time I stumble upon a location-page of "yours". Where do you take the pictures from and how do you edit them. The Troubridge Cinema for example. Is the announcement board in the original original or did you edit that? Again, your work is the reason why I decided to stay in Dulston in the first place. Compliments!-- [ ρsych°Lychεε ]  T 10:20, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

The location image for Troubridge Cinema was edited by me using Photoshop. There is no real Troubridge Cinema, but with the proper letters and editing I created one. Then I posted both versions, the one at the top meets my original scale, while the one on the right side was the original work I created prior to scaling/cropping. The animated "movies" were also created by me using a simple animated GIF application, some careful planning, and a fair bit of listening/writing to get those subtitles. Also, feel free to follow that link to watch "Night of the Living Dead" as a streamed video. It's perfectly legal as the movie has become public media (free to watch). I hope you continue to enjoy your stay in Dulston, but keep in mind that I also created most of the location wikipages for the surrounding suburbs too... so feel free to check them out as well and you may find a few other "interesting" locations. ;) --Mobius187 November 7 2007, 8:00 AM (EST)

Malton Rail

Hi. I've created a new page for the railway stations, under a company, named Malton Rail. But one very important thing is still missing: the story. Can you fill it in? (if you feel like it) Thanks for your creativity. :) -- goebiLfs team 13:41, 21 April 2007 (BST)

I'm always up for improving the UD Wiki. How long did you want the description to be? Did you want images (i.e. B&W old railroad, followed by newer ones)? If you do want photos did you want them at a particular size? My standard sizes are 450x290 for the main image (top) and 270x360 for in-text images. Also, is your plan to link to every railway station in every Malton suburb? If so you should be pleased to note that Rhodenbank, Dulston, Rolt Heights and Pescodside all have their railroad stations wikipages already created... by me. --Mobius187 April 21 2007, 8:56 AM (EST)
I've refreshed the Malton Rail page (but still under construction). I like your pages very much, with those pictures and descriptions. I've created the Malton Rail logo to put that on every Railway Station page (like police departments, fire stations, etc.), and a little description "These stations are remains of the extinct Malton Rail.". But seen your pages, i don't want to edit them. -- goebiLfs team 17:49, 21 April 2007 (BST)
I am currently working on a compromise. Feel free to check any of the Dulston railway stations to see what I mean. I think this is a mutually satisfactory solution. Of course I'm not a location description machine, so it may take me a bit to create unique descriptions for each railway station with the 4 suburbs I monitor. Of course any future railway station locations will include this in them. --Mobius187 April 22 2007, 9:54 AM (EST)
I like it. :) goebiLfs team 02:40, 23 April 2007 (BST)

Amazing! Nice work at Malton Rail page! Thank you. -- /// goebiTalkHelp/LFS/SR/NT/MWP /// 13:48, 13 May 2007 (BST)

Thanks. I figured it could use some jazzing-up. The history is a bit thin, but I figured you needed just "something" there for now. I'll edit it some more later. I'm actually tempted to either a) break-up each of the 4 Malton railway areas in their own sub-pages, or b) just add-in "link back to top" for each section. I'm not sure which would be better at this stage. BTW, once I've added in a link to every railway station (whether its wikipage has been created or not) and suburb section, I'll organize the suburbs alphabetically within each "section" (i.e. Northeast Malton). Later I may actually go to the trouble to create the actual "Northwest Malton" and so on, wikipages so we can properly link each title to them. Of course I'm not doing all of this in one go, so feel free to step in at any time and make your own additions as it is your wikipage. --Mobius187 May 13 2007, 9:00 AM (EST)


Everyone deserves a pat on the back now and then, I'm no exception. If you feel I deserve some kind of compliment from my recent efforts to improve the UD Wiki you're free to post your comments here. As stated before, all my work is towards the single goal of creating a more active Wiki, one where enough current information exists that UD players can visit here and make informed decisions based on what they read (i.e. zombie horde locations, threat levels, active groups, ect). Anywho, compliments are always appreciated.

Oh god

It hurts so much I miss you I love you I need you come back LemonHead7t7 *̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡|͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|]]| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡*̡͌l̡* Talk/PDA/Red Rum/MOB 20:28, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Sorry friend, but those days have long since passed. These days I provide Moderator support over at the Don't Starve forums. Klei is a good Canadian game company that's come up with a great game (in BETA right now). It involves not starving... :) -Mobius 19:47, 31 January 2013 (UTC)


Sorry for the late reply, but thanks for fixing that issue. I've had it with the Pippard Building too (but I'm less then two blocks away, so I might as well get a new scan.)

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Linkthewindow has given Mobius187 a cookie for for fixing my scan and doing the NecroWatch thing


-- Linkthewindow  Talk  07:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help

I'm still kind of a newbie at the wiki stuff, so I have a few things left to learn. Thank you, however, for the corrections in formatting and organizations you did to the Heddington Walk Railway page. I can see now how it should have been done, but I obviously didn't do it right the first time. :P Thanks for keeping the UD Wiki looking spiffy and polished, and cleaning up after newbies like me!. --Geoffrey Thames 04:02, 1 April 2008 (BST)

Old School O000h-ra

Damn son... I just happened upon all your work with "Alice" You frakin rock man. Conndrakamod TDHPD CFT 04:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

NW badges check - thanx

The Neagle one in barville and Grasomething in Paynterton are ruined - that caused my hiatus on them at the moment. However i have a gen with fuel to report out of paynterton's one right now. As for lazenbury, i'm not sure how i missed that. Thanks for the research! --~~~~ [talk] 09:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually i've just done both neagle and gracewood, earning myself these 2 badges. Those zombies however would be surprised why some odd guy sets up a running renerator in their ruined building and doesn't use it to combat-revive them --~~~~ [talk] 10:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Glad to hear it. I found is very odd that, with all your scans, you had no ribbon medals yet. Very odd. Next time you could confuse zombies further by saying something like, "You gentlemen over there, stop being undead and man this generator! Do I have to do everything myself?!?". Or somesuch. ;) --Mobius187 14:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks from KMA!

Looking at the page history I see that you're to thank for our awesome new layout and colourscheme! Just like to say thanks for it all!--SeventythreeTalk 08:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I was asked a few months back to help you guys out when your group's membership within the Dulston Alliance was reconfirmed, but I was a bit busy back then. Now that I found I had a bit more time I wanted to try my hand at improving it. Technically I'm not done yet, as I wanted to confirm whether KMA had ranks (for members) and whether you had a treaty/alliance system in place. Of course those are details I'm not in a position just to "add on" for your group, but rather ones that you guys need to tell me you want. --Mobius187 11:05 AM, 12 November 2007 (EST)
I've just had word back from King Murek. He want's to congratulate you on your hard work, especially on the Winter war recruitment poster. To answer your two questions, there's no real rank system in place apart from King Murek being in charge. Members may come forward for knighthoods and other such titles, but so far only Agent 019 has been confirmed as a commander of the second headquaters. As for alliances, well we are allied to FotFL, since before our Dulston Alliance membership, so they're basically brothers in arms. Other than that, well, we tend to support DA Alliances and enemies lists. At some point we plan to conduct a recruitment drive at which time we may well start seeking out alliances with other pro-survivor groups. Thanks once again for your dedicated work! --SeventythreeTalk 21:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
No need to thank me, but thanks are always appreciated. Consider this as one of the perks of being with the Dulston Alliance, that and it's my hobby to improve the look/feel of the UD Wiki. Thanks for the information about the ranking system. Is it alright if the current ranks I listed (Fearless Leader/Commander/Soldier) remain, or would you prefer other ones be used? Also, if King Murek does grant titles to his troops perhaps you would like me to create a new column for "Titles". There you could list titles and awards that have been handed out. On the matter of gaining alliances, and I hope you'll forgive my boldness here, I approached Lemonhead7t7, leader of the PDA, and discussed the matter with him so as to feel-out his thoughts on the matter. In turn he informed me that he would be more than willing to strike an alliance with KMA, and all you would need to do is discuss the matter via AIM (if possible, and if so refer to their member list as their AIM IDs are listed there) or via PM/E-mail (they are not really into wiki-posting). I'm hoping that I can aid in strengthening ties between the various Pescodside survivor groups. If though you would prefer I not meddle in your groups' affairs please let me know and I will of course desist from any further action of this nature. I'm just used to being helpful... sometimes overtly so. If you do wish me to continue assisting with diplomatic relations I was hoping you would take a look at these "treaties/alliances" (i.e. Non-Aggression Pact) and let me know if you would like a similar ranking system for your allies. Oh, and I'll add some more Finland WW2 army images to the wikipage so as to help spice it up. --Mobius187 5:22 PM, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Thank you!

Thank you for organizing the content on the Molebank page. I lack the experience thus far to do more than add a comment or two, so I was unable to do it myself. I appreciate that you organized the current events as you did. It needed straightening up! Thanks, again! --Lois Millard 22:49, 13 September 2007 (BST)

Ah yes, you are no doubt referring to my plan to slowly convert every Suburb wikipage until they all conform to my ultimate vision. This is only phase one, which is taking a while because there are so many goddamn suburbs. Ahem. But sooner or later phase one will reach fruition and then I will convert every suburb wikipage to use the same header for the news section! Yes, no more "Current Events"/"Bulletin Board"/"News"/ect... it will be glorious conformity under one header! But now you know too much... (*squints eyes menacingly*) --Mobius187 7:15 PM, 13 September 2007 (EST)

Moar Compliments

I like your style. Stylish.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 09:36, 30 August 2007 (BST)

Compliments to Caleb the Legend

Thanks for everything that you have done and are doing for the B.A.R! It must take a lot of work to keep up with us lazy bums, and you should know that it is definatley appreciated! Also personal thanks from Clint Harbringer/Samtheman for making Urban Dead WAY more fun! You know that whilst you dont really see written thanks (especially on the wiki) from us, you will always have a special place in the Burchell Arms Regulars! --SamtheMan 14:45, 1 August 2007 (BST)

Not enough people are praisin' the Usher, so it's good to hear the sound of someone feeding the roaring furnace that is my awesome ego. ;) --Mobius187 August 1 2007, 10:43 AM (EST)

Hey, Mister!

Thanks for adding that Ghetto Cow shield pic thingy to the Shearbank page, I know you had to actually put in some thought and time to do that...and now the Shearbank page looks better! Thank you!--Lachryma 18:59, 23 July 2007 (BST)

Well my goal is to improve the UD Wiki "at large". Given enough time I'll have everything organized. It will be glorious! Also, time will tell if my improvements are to everyones liking or if adjustments will be required. --Mobius187 August 1 2007, 10:40 AM (EST)

In Memory of your work

just a little something for the work you've done up here in the NE, a quiet little memorial at the edge of the world:


A meager offering, and probably not long for this world, but deserved none the less. --Goofy Mccoy 02:03, 19 July 2007 (BST)

Thanks! It's good to know my efforts were appreciated by the masses. Or possibly just you... I suppose I won't know unless EVERY player posts a compliment here. Tell them and spread the word! You know, I would have spread more outrageous propaganda about Caleb myself if not for all the work I did which kept me from accomplishing said egomaniacal boasting. Curse my awesome work ethic! ;) --Mobius187 7:47 AM, 19 July 2007 (EST)


Award from Lfsshadow.jpg for the stylish page /// LFS /// goebi ///

like it, real propaganda style ;) -- /// goebiTalkHelp/LFS/SR/NT/MWP /// 22:48, 15 June 2007 (BST)

On Revive Point Reporting

Thanks for the heads up on my scan pages. I'm engaging in some extensive training over the next few weeks. As such, report frequency might be somewhat diminished. Once I return though, look forward to an even broader reporting area from suburbs outside Pescodside. Keep up the great work Caleb. The NE Corner is lucky to have you. -- Ottari June 3 2007, 4:30 PM EST.

Thanks for the "thumbs up", I'll keep updating the Duport Avenue section -- Rothman Dex June 3 2007, 00:56 (CEST]

Thank you

Thank you for the welcome to the Dulston Alliance. Dante's Guard is a quiet bunch of people, but we keep our corner of Pescodside clean.

Do you have any recommendations what sort of skills I should teach myself next? I think I've got a handle on this axe thing now, I seem to hurt 'em about every other swing, and that's pretty good, but I don't know what to teach myself next. I figured out how to leap from building to building quick enough that the zeds don't spot me, and I guess that can come in handy, and I've read up on barricading buildings, but I'm not quite sure where I should go next. Any pointers? --DanielZklein 00:00, 30 May 2007 (BST)

The Fire Axe is good starter weapon early on and a great back-up weapon once you've maxed-out your survivor skills. Free Running is also a useful skill, especially in this area as many buildings are over-barricaded and most safehouses (HQs) are always EH barricaded for safety reasons. After barricading the only real options surround what you want to accomplish. Since you have free running I would suggest picking up the shopping skills. Once you have both then the firearm skills will pay-off better as Treweeke Mall is the best place to find supplies. If you are hurting for XP and zombie killing is not getting you enough I would suggest searching hospitals for FAKs and healing people. You don't need the First Aid skill for it, since when you are healing for XP you want to use more of them. Later on the First Aid skill is important to staying alive and you should always keep 1 FAK on you at all times in case you're infected. I also suggest finding a flak vest early on, as you never know when a PKer is going to try and kill you, which then goes without saying that Body Building helps keep you alive longer. I hope that advice helps. --Mobius187 May 30 2007, 6:10 PM (EST)

Red Rum and the PKA in Rolt Heights

Cheers for the tag- I was wondering who to credit it to. It's really quite something. Also, thanks for the heads up about the BAR Deadbeat list, it makes for an interesting read- not to mention helping to know where my bunch are! I have a small quibble with the list itself, but I'll obviously take this up with the BAR itself.

Anyways, it seems like you're a massive contributor to this wiki and the general atmosphere of this game- my personal thanks for adding yet another level of interest. --Karloth Vois RR 03:44, 18 April 2007 (BST)


Well, firstly thanks for the information and your revised OctoLegion logo. We are quite attached to our current mascot so won't be changing until we have no other choice. Hope to see more of you DvB types in Ruddlebank.--Nuabreed 18:28, 10 April 2007 (BST)


Hey, thanks for your work on the Rolt Heights page. It was really a treat to check up on the news and to see a nice little blurb on me and my doings (and to an extent, my group). It's always nice when someone acknowledges your work in a calm and neutral manner, rather than calling you a spineless scum of the Earth (us PKers tend to get that a lot, it seems). Hey, best of luck to you in the coming siege eh? Torec T-CC/CS 14:27, 7 April 2007 (BST)

No problem. While I never cared much for PKers the suburb wikipages are neutral grounds where only factual news is reported. At the same time, whenever someone posts a news item and I choose to edit that news it's usually a matter of determining what they meant, what really happened, and removing anything that might be non-neutral. As such, I try to stick to the facts. By any chance is your recent foray into Rolt Heights part of The PKer Alliance efforts in that suburb? You don't need to answer that, but if you are and have any insight into this event I would ask that you consider including news commentary from your side, based on what you see fit to share with the public. As you can guess, since I'm anti-PKer I can hardly do so myself without gathering my information in a way that might be deemed "spying". Also I would ask, if you do PK in Rolt Heights be sure to confirm whomever you kill. If they are anyone of note (i.e. leaders of groups), please visit that location's wikipage and be sure to add the event to its history. The same would go for if you commit multiple PKs at the same location or so on. Obviously if everyone posted every kill location wikipages would be overrun, so I try to only include "items of interest". Not enough historical content is being noted down for locations, due in part to the fact that I only recently finished creating most of Rolt Heights' location wikipages. Most of what news I have found and recorded (as old news) is about "zombies overrun" or "survivors retake". Hardly any PKer content at all. Not that I promote PKing, I just figure if you're going to do it anyway I might as well ask. --Mobius187 April 7 2007, 11:11 AM (EST)
Hmm, PKer news pieces are fairly rare... Mostly because I think that as PKers we feel that it's not... honourable? to brag. The bigger pride comes when someone else acknowledges your efforts. Putting that matter aside, I am in fact working with the PKA partially as a coordinator of this event. You see, April 4th-10th marks the date of a festival dedicated to my group's namesake, Cybele. I thought it only appropriate that my group do something over this timeframe, and it was suggested that we team up with the PKA to bring a plan into motion that they had been cooking up for a while. Rolt Heights is actually fairly unlucky, as our original target was Edgecombe... But then it got overrun right before we could start. Basically, the PKA in general should be sticking around that area for a while, a fact we take no caution in stating.
As for your suggestion about editing group's news pages, or suburb pages in recognition of kills... I feel that that might be construed as a little too much ego petting. On top of that, not only would it make the local groups mad at us more than they usually are, it would help to give away our location, or patterns of attack, which could be used against us. If a group wants to write a little something about me (which only a few have, and that's just to put me on lists), then I feel as if I've done something special. The mindset of a killer is a little different from that of a regular player... And like regular players, they vary a lot. For example, I hate greifing, and will normally only kill someone once, unless they threaten me or attract my attention in a very negative way. There are some groups out there, some in the PKA for instance, who specifically target certain groups. It's a style of play, like any other, though it has its quirks in certain areas. My, I've babbled just a bit... I'm off to go do more dastardly stuff now... Like... study for finals... *blinks* Torec T-CC/CS 17:23, 7 April 2007 (BST)
Ah, that's bad luck for Rolt Heights then. Pity. Actually things had become fairly quiet around that suburb, so much so, that The Burchell Arms Regulars had launched an expeditionary force to "barricade/power pubs across Malton, for the glory of the B.A.R". I had to tell them that odds were very low that the attack had been specifically planned for after that force had departed. This was because the B.A.R was not the target of the attack, but rather the suburb. I happen to know some of the details of the attack, but I try not to speculate on them. If you like I can of course post a news item on April 12th to the effect of: Today the Festival of Cybele, "Megalesian", is being celebrated by her devoted followers.... Let me know, that is, if you feel uncomfortable with posting the news yourself due to it being PKer news. After this festival passes does your group intend to move on and leave the PKA to its own devices in Rolt Heights? You do not need to answer that question of course. As for the other news items for location wikipages, yes, it can come across as boasting. But I like to consider it all in the wording. It's for this reason why I try to avoid recording common events and instead try to contribute only noteworthy ones. A massacre at a specific location is noteworthy, as people will be able to look back and see what happened on that day. At least that's what I feel when I see that happen for survivor/zombie news. It's all in the wording of course. If it comes off as smug, like often is the case with some PKer groups *cough*DORIS*cough*, then yeah, people will get offended. But if it's reported in a neutral tone, and maybe with a nod to the other side it goes over better. No one likes to read just about the other side's victories after all. Of course again, it's your call and as of now I will pursue the question no further. I will say this though, my sore spot for PKers has to do with my character, Caleb, as the only times he has ever died in UD was from PKers. Odd, zombies never managed to kill him. But mall PKers did three times. Of course I don't hold a grudge and never considered hunting any of them down. Let bygones be bygones I say. :) --Mobius187 April 7 2007, 11:48 PM (EST)
Meh, I figure I can edit in the Megalesia news. It's a week long event, so technically we're going to be celebrating it for another few days, on top of the fact that we've been celebrating for the past few days as well. And as for afterwards... I'll leave that up to your imagination ;) /me taps her chin. I don't think I have much else to add... It's pretty much business as usual, so it's not something too special for us. Even the reaction of the B.A.R. isn't something unusual or unexpected. I have to say though, it's a lot more fun when you have an active resistance force rather than a passive one. Torec T-CC/CS 15:37, 8 April 2007 (BST)


  • I just wanted to say: thanks a lot for adapting our ELT wiki pages to the Dulston Alliance design! What do you think about adding something like "These pages were improved by..." with a direct link to your user page? Just put it somewhere you think it will get noticed. See you, --Balcony JediELT|Talk! 20:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Update: If you'd like to have another cool template, find one you've truly earned here. --Balcony JediELT|Talk! 17:52, 28 March 2007 (BST)
How could I possibly turn down such an honor? Done and done. I'm not a template junkie, like some users, but that's because when it comes to templates I prefer "quality" over "quantity". ;) --Mobius187 March 28 2007, 1:08 PM (EST)

Thank You!

Thanks for helping out with the KFTW page! The artwork is awesome!--TheLurker7 04:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Well I can't take all the credit. I did a search for radio broadcasts, found a suitable image, then I repainted it in Photoshop. I figured it worked for the broadcasting theme used by your group. I then created a smaller version for the suburb listing. Have fun with your group in Dulston. --Mobius187 March 21 2007, 8:12 AM (EST)


I just wanted to thank you for the work you've done on the gang's page. Thanks a bunch. Anachronos 03:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

From the Alliance: Thanks

I am Cheeser, a member of Dead vs Blue, a Dulston Alliance group member in Dulston. I want to say thank you for all of your hard work on all of the northeast corner suburb pages and its group member pages. I am amazed at all that you have done, especially the Dulston Alliance page. The logo is fantastic, and the new colors with the sub pages works wonderfully. Thank you very much. Your work is greatly appreciated. -- Cheeser, DvB|DA  04:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Well I won't lie, it was a lot of work, but I always enjoy the pay-off which is that everyone enjoys the UD Wiki, and thus UD, more. I hope that in the future other member groups associated with the NE Corner suburbs or the Alliance (in particular) will allow me to update their group pages so we can create a real sense of community. On a side note, I would like to tip my hat to Newgrounds for inspiring me with the idea behind my current group wikipage updates. --Mobius187 February 14 2007, 9:02 AM (EST)

Very nice job on the Dulston Alliance page. Thanks for the slight tweak to our Friends of the Featherstone Library page. As you know we've been a big supporter of yours in Pescodside and have always done our best to be of service to the greater Duslton area. I wouldn't mind at all if you had a go at our wiki page. Just warn me before you change it! --Shotgun Ed 18:36, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Well let me know if you want me to and I'll see what I can do for the Friends of the Featherstone Library. I posted an offer to do just that on the FotFL discussion page, but I take it not many member check there these days. In case you're checking here I figured I would mention it again. To date I'ce created group wikipages for: Dead vs Blue, Dead vs Blue: S.W.E.E.P.Z., Dulston Alliance, Dulston Defense Death Squad, Palytoxin Gang, and Rhodenbank Civil Defense Corps. Not a bad collection so far. --Mobius187 February 20 2007, 6:21 PM (EST)


So this is where most of the Dulston plots come together, inofficially somehow. I have noticed the noted NT-Scientist Caleb Usher for several times and was kind of curious. Also crappy grammar mistakes in some of my updates were corrected by you, silently. I like that. But the real work are your location descriptions, combined with photos, links, ... flavour everywhere. I love it. Came to Dulston as a tourist and this suburb's detailed wiki-pages were one of the main reasons for staying here and starting a group. Thanks, man; great work. -- ρsych°LychεεELT 01:38, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliments. I admit the Dulston wikipages have seen a lot of changes since when I first started playing Urban Dead. When I first arrived there wasn't that much content and I sort of disparaged the lack of overall information about the suburb. In the months that followed I decided to start adding content myself and new wikipages for locations so that newcomers to the suburb would have a much better idea of what was going on. Of course I realized that getting solid information (i.e. "Current Events") for every page was impossible, since it would involve more AP then any one player has, not to mention what you miss when you leave to visit another location. As such, I'm hoping that by giving players more detailed wikipages I'm promoting an atmosphere where they will willingly visit the Wiki and make their own updates. Nothing discourages you more than trying to add some news and finding that not even the wikipage for that location exists... and let me tell you after spending 5 hours creating Pescodside Streets I feel for the guy who created 40% of Dulston Streets before stopping (I finished it for him after I returned from my hiatus away from UD).
I've found that the UD Wiki is a great way to add more flavor to the overall gameplay, especially for boring locations, but also by adding historical content so players can get a feeling for what they can expect from a suburb (i.e. zombie activity, PKers, groups to join, ect). I would have to say my fondest desire was to create a seamless "travel" experience for players visiting the Dulston wikipages, in that you could pick any location and from there navigate throughout the suburb without needing to search or return to the suburb wikipage. Missing wikipages ruin that experience. In case you're wondering I've also been working on Pescodside as well, slowly creating its wikipages and editing content.
On your remarks about edits I've made, yes, I do edit other users posts mostly in the spelling or grammatical correction capacity. Other times I've been known to reword sentences. Of course the same goes for my own work as sometimes in my rush to post I'll skip spell-checking or re-reading... a fatal mistake that has led to an embarrising series of (m) Edits for certain wikipages. Also I see no point in rubbing other people's mistakes in their faces as it doesn't serve any purpose. No one intentionally makes spelling or grammar errors. I know I sure don't, and yet there they are from time to time. Well I could go on forever, but the more time I spend writing here is less time spent updating the UD Wiki. As to what you can expect from me in the days to come, well, I intend to keep updating Dulston of course, as some locations only have placeholder descriptions (what I consider the minimum, i.e. "Blank is a tower in the suburb of Dulston"), so I'll need to include more historical content and post-zombie chaos facts. Also I'll keep updating Pescodside and lastly I'm checking with a Mod (Xoid) on whether or not merged wikipages in Dulston/Pescodside should be unmerged (i.e. NecroTech Dulston) as those pages have reasonable content, and in my opinion, shouldn't be merged. Anywho, good luck and I hope you enjoy your stay in Dulston. --Mobius187 February 2 2007, 9:00 AM (EST)

Wow, thanks.

I'd like to thank you for adding this to the Dulston page. It's nice to know that we're being noticed, and any way that people can help us out is greatly appreciated. Thank you. --Joe O'Wood TALKCONTRIBSUD 01:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

No prob, I like helping out when it comes to the wiki. My personal goal is to keep Dulston's wiki pages updated and I've been adding content throughout most of the suburb's pages in terms of "historical" significance associated with buildings that have no in-game content as of yet. Another facet I'm interested in is making sure that the group listing is current and that new groups get the publicity they deserve when they appear. That way it's easier to track the chronology of events in the suburb and how old certain groups are when compared to the suburb's history. --Mobius187 5:25 PM, 3 January 2007

Greetings from the MFD

Hi there. Fire Marshall Griff of NE-3 (Rhodenbank, Dulston, Rolt Heights, Pescodside and Dunningwood) finally getting back to you.

Firstly, I must commend you on your work. Your efforts in maintaining communication in Dulston are excellent and are appreciated.

We have a new Captain in Dulston; Agent Heroic. We also have Lt. femlafrog, currently assigned to Stembridge Crescent Fire Station. --Grifflik 20:08, 22 April 2006 (BST)

Good Work

I truly enjoy all the work you've done, you rock man :P Hope Caleb Usher can visit Judgewood once Shadowslasher Incorporated has established itself. Seriously, you rock. --Agent 24601 3:04, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)

Thanks for the compliment. I started with buildings in Pescodside and now I'm working on major buildings in Dulston, as those two surburbs are where I have Caleb hang out most often. My other goal would be to see if people are interested in continuing the NecroNet reports work I post daily at the Waish Building, but for NT facilities across the suburb, as it would create an information network that anyone could benefit from regardless of where they are in that surburb. --Mobius187 18:00, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)
I think the infomation on Sirl Plaza is insufficient to ensure that it retain a page on its own, now that it's no longer a revive point. I added in the tagging and barricading data to bulk it up somewhat, but I see you've removed it. It needs to get a bit more content though to get OddStarter off my back that location pages are just a waste of space on the wiki. See if you can "create" a History section regarding the revive point and perhaps something comedic... like how now that it's no longer occupied by dozens of zombies seeking revivification, you can play hopscotch there or something...
Likewise the Farbrother Building also needs work. Check out the MalTel page and see if anyone has volunteered to take care of the phone mast. Perhaps the Friends of the Featherstone Library has taken on that responsibility - they seem to be a cornerstone in Pescodside.
Lastly, and this isn't a wiki thing, perhaps it would be good for you to organise an umbrella group for all the "good" (non-PK, non-gK, non-zombie) human groups in and around the suburb to coordinate the activities within the suburb. --Nov W!, Talk 01:28, 21 March 2006 (GMT)


Thanks. It is hard to keep up with semi-menial updates like that. Will we still be expecting you there, since you have left us once again? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:58, 24 April 2009 (BST)

User/Group Requests

Are you a member of a group, especially one in the NE Corner of Malton? Then feel free to drop a line and make requests for updates, or just make suggestions on what you would like to see in the suburbs. If I can help make those requests come true, I'll do it. Also, if I've done something you feel is wrong, be sure to point it out. I feel it's important to get both positive and negative feedback in order to improve my work. Please post the newest requests at the top.

About them anime avatars... me the merchandise.--ScouterTX 17:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Done and done. I aim to please. --Mobius 17:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


Mobius, your work on the N00dles page is amazing. The whole thing looks good. The colors are outstanding, nice job. Thanks dood. Met fan 03:04, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the new, shorter ally template. Could you do this with our member template too? --ScouterTX 14:25, 23 October 2008 (BST)

And me again. Can you do us another favor and put a border around the whole groupname, moe and chaotic good part? I can't figure it out. --ScouterTX 02:01, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Done. I should also mention that with your new "extended" Group Policy section there is a lot of empty space in the right column. Originally when I reformatted your group wikipage I had tried to reduce its length (vertical scrolling), but if you do have that much space you may want to consider splitting your templates (bottom of your wikipage) into two groups, important ones and not-so-important ones. Then place said important templates into the right column, one above the other. The width should support it for most of them. Obviously don't include any ones that are too wide. A suggestion, create news templates supporting your group's ideals, and then add them into the group wikipage. --Mobius 13:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I'll try that, thanks.--ScouterTX 01:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, couldn't figure out how to get our pic up there...damn, I suck at wiki ;) --ScouterTX 00:47, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I Hate New Things

Hello, Caleb, it's Colin here. To keep it cut simple, I'm having problems with baby's first templates (or, as I call the things, userboxes). Located here and here, the damn things refuse to stack nicely, and are continually pulling the line below them up to sit with them (this problem can be viewed in detail here). I have no gods-rotted idea how to fix this- can you help? --Boris 18:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Your request was actually buried, but fortunately I check every now and then for buried requests. As requested your template wikipage is now a sparkling vision or organization, sure to be the envy of many other users. Enjoy. ;) --Mobius187 18:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
EDIT: Oh, and in case you ever do want to try and sort templates in the future, the problem was that templates do not play well together. Each one wants its own line and templates will not sit beside one another. A table is the best way to organize templates so they stack side-by-side. --Mobius187 18:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


Hey dude, the Beale Building is free, are we cool to take it as a HQ? Also, myself and Dancedance want to keep it at extremely heavily barricaded, as there's already an entry point next door. What are your thoughts?--Lewin 06:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I would say that you can turn the Beale Building into your new HQ, as I know no other Alliance group is using it at this time. I will still need to confer with the newest member group, the Flustered Brethren, but as I recall their HQ is Spicer Row Police Department (aka, they're your next door neighbours) and that shouldn't be a problem. If anything it should allow your two groups to work closely together. --Mobius187 11:12 AM, November 12 2007 (EST)

Flustered Brethren

I've got a favor to ask of you, mainly because HTML is like moonspeak to me. Granted, I could go be a dirty little thief, but I only do that for myself. The Flustered Brethren page is a bit cluttered and unwieldy, not to mention lacking an awesome layout. I was wondering if you could get together with their leader and see what he wants out of the layout, and hopefully cobble him one together quickly. He wants a cool layout, but he's got that reluctance to ask thing going on. --R.Marsh 17:43, 12 October 2007 (BST)

Actually I've departed from the group wikipage building area. Twohundred made a similar request for King Murek's Army and I had to turn him down. The work takes a fair bit of time and effort, and most of that time has recently been redirected to other hobbies. This was part of my "I'm leaving soon" decision and while I'm active again on teh forums (something I hadn't intended) I'm trying to stick to only maintenance work on the UD Wiki. Of course you can tell them taht they are free to borrow any/all wikicode I've written for other groups and then apply it to their wikipage. --Mobius187 October 13 2007, 2:25 PM (EST)
Speaking of which... i took the liberty of pilfering your html code and applying it to the FLUB's wiki page. I haven't heard back from them yet, but i know some html (i always had trouble with tables though...) so I should able to craft it to whatever they want. Hopefully, that is. BTW, the base design is really nice, how long did it take you to cook up? --Kikashie ELT 21:29, 14 October 2007 (BST)
Hard to say, as it was a "work in progress" and I added to it over time. The best wiki groupage I created though would have to be the one for the BAR. I still keep adding to theirs, but mostly as news and updating their Deadbeat list. It's good that you guys are helping each other as its important to build a wiki community where everyone is willing to pitch in some help every now and then. :) --Mobius187 October 14 2007, 4:35 PM (EST)

Saving You Time

{quote|Mobius187|Actually I had trouble with any group that was a sub-group of a group. The double asterisk worked well for groups belonging to organizations, but presented problems for groups like the RRF's Gore Corps, not the least of which has to do with the fact that they would be listed as both Zombie and Hostile... while RRF would be strictly Zombie.} Let me save you a lot of time here, the Gore Corps are not a group, they are a strike team, the group they are in is the RRF, they do function as zombies. List them as Ridleybank Resistance Front, not Gore Corps. Same goes for every other RRF strike team, they are RRF, RRF is a zombie group.--Karekmaps?! 20:05, 4 August 2007 (BST)

Will do. So, just to be clear, if the Gore Corps are active within a suburb it should be considered that the RRF are active in that suburb and it would be the RRF would be added to the suburb listing, correct? On that note, has there been a case yet where the Gore Corps have added RRF to a group listing for any suburb to date? Should there be one for their current activity in the NE Corner (i.e. Rhodenbank)? Or do they prefer not to be listed unless part of an active siege (i.e. secret activity)? --Mobius187 August 4 2007, 3:10 PM (EST)
Actually they usually don't list, most of the RRF doesn't even bother with it. It's part of the reason why the RRF isn't spammed on tons of pages like other groups. The news shows when or if the RRF were active there so there is little point in adding it to the group page. But it is a common mistake that the Gore Corps only does things as harmans, there have been many a time where they have performed strikes as zombies and do it semiregularly. If you feel like adding them I don't think anyone will care(if you really want someones permission ask on their talk page they respond somewhat fast), but odds are they won't do it themselves.--Karekmaps?! 20:16, 4 August 2007 (BST)

Malton Forensics Unit

Hey, Mobius. I think the new suburb group listings you created are a big improvement. Can I ask, though, that you leave MFU as double-asterisked under DEM rather than triple-asterisked under DEM>MPD, as in this edit for example? It's not just an aesthetic thing, though that's a factor; there are suburbs where MFU has a presence and MPD doesn't. Additionally, within the DEM, MFU is considered a core group just like MPD, and is not strictly a subgroup of the latter any longer. Thanks for all the work you put in on suburb and locations pages, and good luck with your promo bid. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 20:51, 3 August 2007 (BST)

Actually I had trouble with any group that was a sub-group of a group. The double asterisk worked well for groups belonging to organizations, but presented problems for groups like the RRF's Gore Corps, not the least of which has to do with the fact that they would be listed as both Zombie and Hostile... while RRF would be strictly Zombie. Yet how could you list the Gore Corps as a sub-group of the RRF, without making people think they were "hostile" (i.e. PKers/death cultists) too. Triple asterisks were even more troublesome in a way. I'm almost of the opinion that sub-groups of groups should simply be listed on their own, unless part of an organizations (i.e. DEM). On the matter of the MFU I believe I spotted listed somewhere as a sub-group of the MPD... and that's where the confusion started. Obviously now that you've informed me of this fact I won't make that mistake again. I take it though that MEM is a sub-group of MFD though? Or is its relationship more like the MFU's and MPD's? Lastly, I'm thinking I might shrink the icons for all sub-groups (check Dulston for the Alliance's sub-group icons). Would the DEM also possibly consider the creation of suburb icons that better meet the 25x25 scale? I didn't want to tamper with them, although I did create a smaller MFD icon. --Mobius187 August 3 2007, 4:41 PM (EST)
Thanks for getting back to me. Yes, the MFD/MEMS relationship is very much the same as MPD/MFU: began as a subgroup, is now much less so and is definitely considered a DEM core group as well. I think single asterisk for DEM, double for any member groups, is the simplest solution, and hopefully that will carry over to other organizations as well (making your job easier, I trust). As far as new badge icons, I'll mention something to Jarl, the MPD's main wiki editor lately, and see whether he would want to undertake something like that - I wouldn't have a problem seeing what you come up with, if that's something you choose to undertake yourself, but Jarl should have a say too. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 22:29, 3 August 2007 (BST)
I'm in no rush, so let me know what Jarl has to say first and then we'll proceed from there. --Mobius187 August 3 2007, 5:33 PM (EST)
Hey folks. Thanks for consulting me for the image. Appreciate it. I've resized the new MPD badge into a square 25 px image: MPDGroupIcon.jpg I think it looks fine. I agree considering their own leadership and group size, the MFU should be considered as another DEM core group. The Marshals should be considered as an MPD subgroup. Plz use the same icon for them if possible. Thanks! Jarlian 09:56, 4 August 2007 (BST)
I'll make sure that every suburb entry for MPD, MM, and MFU uses this icon. I suppose that would be one factor in determining that all three groups are directly connected (i.e. use the same group icon). On the matter of the MFD and MEM, what should be done about their icon? Would you be able to determine if they want a new icon, or the 25x25 "zoomed-in" icon I created: MFD GroupIcon.jpg? Let me know, but for now I'll leave it "as is" (which would be using my icon). --Mobius187 August 4 2007, 11:46 AM (EST)
I think your MFD icon is probably fine, Mobius, but I'll check with a couple of MFD people to be certain. I'm not sure that any suburbs would have MM listed as an active group, but it's possible; if there are any, though, I have to politely disagree with Jarlian on whether they're an MPD subgroup anymore. :) Very similar situation to the MPD/MFU. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 18:03, 4 August 2007 (BST)
You make a good point about the MM. They are one of the more spread-out/mobile groups in Malton. I find it hard to believe they would be listed in any single suburb, but I do recall at least one suburb out there had them listed (actually had every DEM group listed as I recall). I ran across it during the whole "suburb group template" update. If I find it I intend to remove the MM from it, on the basis that they are mobile. If the MM should disagree please ask them to add themselves back to any suburbs they wish. --Mobius187 August 4 2007, 1:06 PM (EST)
I like the MFD icon, but I'm not sure about the background - I'd prefer to see the icon on a transparant background I think. --Kal 18:57, 4 August 2007 (BST)
As in the fireman/fireaxe silhouette on a white/clear background? I'll see what I can do. Personally I'm of the opinion that the best icons are ones that you can easily identify at 25x25 scale. Take the icon for FANNY... it's one of the best I've seen as even though it has a lot of detail, it's clear and crisp. I would like to do the same for the MFD, if you will allow it. I was thinking perhaps you might want to consider even one of these badges (scroll down). In particular the one tagged as Firefighting Logo:EQ0176, as I tested it just now by removing the blue "petals" and focusing on the image inside the blue circle. It looked nice. But if you're looking for something more along the lines of what you already have might I suggest this one. Let me know which you would prefer. I am to please. ;) --Mobius187 August 4 2007, 2:10 PM (EST)
Well... I've only been in the MFD for a month, (I was in the MEMS before that.) so I don't know why you called me in and not Davinos, but I think it looks fine too.--Labine50 MHG|MEMS 23:31, 4 August 2007 (BST)

The Batwing Brigade

Thanks for your message. It isn't really our way (yet, anyway) to permanently hold territory, not least because we are still so few. I for one look forward to doing a club night at the Mold some time in the future, possibly two months from now or so. One of us will probably drop in to check out the surroundings before then anyway.
--Penny Black 09:37, 28 May 2007 (BST)

Certainly. When you do send someone over it might help if they perhaps brought with them some decorations. Skeletons/skulls, that sort of thing, so as to improve the club's atmosphere as a Goth club. For my part I will speak with the Sex Possy and inform them of the possibility that your group, at some point in the future, move into that building. Whether that is a claim of ownership, I'll leave that for you to decide at that time. But for now the Sex Possy oversees all clubs in Dulston, so if you do claim ownership I'll need to smooth things over with them. It shouldn't really be a problem, especially since I see no reason for either group to do anything that would offend the other. --Mobius187 May 28 2007, 7:49 AM (EST)

Dunningwood Warriors Image

Hi, I changed the image on the Dunningwood page for the Dunningwood Warriors back to what it was. Although it may not be a very visualy appealing image when shrunk down I would appreciate it if you wouldn't change it, or if you want it changed to request so on our group page. Thanks in advance. - JedazΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 13:37, 23 May 2007 (GMT)

Fair enough. In the past my policy has been to update first, and then if a group wants to discuss using a new image I'm always willing to replace it. This often works better than asking each and every group first for permission as most usually appreciate the effort, like Red Rum who now use my thumbnail image for even some of their user signatures, or simply do not care. My interest is improving the quality of the suburb wikipages, in this case by creating small identifiable icons for each group (wherever possible). I've posted my request on your group's wikipage as per your request. Let me know how I can help. --Mobius187 May 23 2007, 9:44 AM (EST)

The Last Stand

Hello! I offer you my apologies for taking so long to get back to you. the logo that you gave my group is fine. Thank you by the way, I was having some trouble trying to get a logo on. Again, sorry it took me so long, ive had a multitude of computer issues that have just been sorted out, and on May 21, I have to report to Basic Training, so i will be out of this game almost all summer... Before I go, do you happen to know the whereabouts of Officer Murphy, of DvB? Thanks a million! -Jack Sorrows (also..forgive me for not knowing how to properly 'sign' this message).

No prob, although you have been gone so long from the Dulston Alliance we had recently discussed "burying" The Last Stand. As you can imagine, there is not a lot to keeping groups listed as with the Alliance if they've faded from the game. Let me know if you concur with me about the status of your group or if you are still around (as a group that is). Officer Murphy is AWOL these days. Or at least he never appears on the Alliance forum like he used to. If you want to contact someone in DvB I would suggest Cheeser. Lastly, did you want a full-size version of that logo for your group's wikipage? I should be able to recreate it. Let me know. --Mobius187 May 14 2007, 7:48 PM
Ok, well, as for our group numbers, we seem to have been severely crippled. Members that i know of that are FOR SURE still around are Saegent Jack, The Liberator V, and myself. Possibly Fighting Day and Xigbar two, but the first three for SURE. I don't know, I really hate to see my group fall apart..i put a lot of work into it last summer. But, even if we totally fall apart, the still active members all want to be involved with the DA somehow, in any way that they could use us. So no word on Officer Murphy, eh? Strange....Ok, do you know the whereabouts of Cheesy, or any member of DvB for that matter? The first three names that I mentioned are all in Brokbury Row Fire Station in [91,10] awaiting orders, or some lead on where to go. And as for that logo, if it's not too much trouble for you to put it on our page, that would be nice. Just don't go out of your way to do so, i understand that your quite the busy guy. Thanks, I'll be in touch. --Jack Sorrows May 14 2007 6:08 PM
Let me begin by stating that I too hate to see groups slip away. Unfortunately it's a fact of life here in UD that no group is eternal. Well, I mean the BAR is good, but I helped them out so that may account for some of it. If I may suggest, communication might be better established if you were to use your forum, by yours I mean the one assigned to you by the Dulston Alliance here. That's your group's own public group section. Maybe it will help communication in your group as it avoids the wiki. On the matter of the DvB, their group has also seen better days. Their current membership sits around 11 active members. Their efforts appear to have shifted over to a sub-group they created called "DvB: SWEEPZ" over in Ruddlebank. If you are looking to team up with anyone I would suggest looking to some of the more active groups: the FotFL, the PDA, the DITPS, MF, or even the ELT. That or you could ask me, but my status is strictly diplomat. If you are interested in rejoining the DA's forum contact Cheeser for the password to the Lodge... the DA's private forum. My final advice? Start recruiting... I suggest resource building. Have all your guys in one place, helping out and talking. Make people see you are more than just one guy helping out. In turn I will see what I can do about your wiki. For that I will need your permission to redesign it. Do I have your permission? --Mobius187 May 15 2007, 8:34 PM

Ok. I got word from members Fighting Day and Xig2, they are going to be active in the game again. I will get on the forum again, I used to be pretty active on it, but in my hiatus from UD I kind of forgot about it. I will start recruiting efforts as soon as I get this message finished, but I don't how the recruiting will go, seeing as how myself, Sargent Jack, and The Liberator V all have Basic Combat Training this summer. You most definitely have my permission to redesign my page. Oh, before I forget, I think I will try to link up with the PDA. I made pretty good friends with their leader Lemonhead the last time the Big Bash was in Dulston. We were stuck in the same building for about two weeks. Thank you, I will be in touch. --Jack Sorrows May 16 2007 22:00

Ah, military life. What can you do? I'm not sure, but considering that when you leave for Basic Training your group will lose its leader and more than half its current force that this alone may kill your group. I mean if you had 20 guys and you placed another guy in command while you were away it would be different, but it kills recruitment when you lose that many members so quickly and so soon. The suggestion that perhaps you should join another Dulston Alliance group, maybe even the PDA, is still on the table. This way you bring up their group by 5 members (16 total), and then when you leave with your friends they drop back down to 13 members. The PDA would live on and later you could return to them. Your call, but I would seriously consider it as you would be doing them a favor by supporting them and not turn TLS into a yo-yo group that appears and disappears from UD due to its numbers (or lack thereof). Again, your call. Should you still wish to continue with your group (TLS) then I'll redesign your group wikipage. --Mobius187 May 17 2007, 7:59 AM

I am attempeting to make contact with the PDA, and I think I have gotten somewhere with it. I will continue to try to make that merger official. ----Jack Sorrows May 18, 2007 16:52 UPDATE: The merger is official. ----Jack Sorrows May, 19 21:19

Malton Examiner

I wish to offer you a position in the Malton Examiner. From what I have seen you would make a good reporter--Seloth 19:05, 22 April 2007 (GMT)

I will need to consider the offer. Up until now though my sole interests in Malton revolve around the NE Corner suburbs. With most of my work being related to location wikipages and group wikipages. Also, if I did join the Malton Examiner does the publication hold any bias, for example, towards the Malton Mob?
On the topic of the Malton Mob, and the Rolt Heights War in particular, I should mention I have been in talks with the BAR and they have asked me (aka Caleb Usher) to write up a response to your previous suburb news post. I of course harbor a degree of reluctance in this task as I have seen in the past that when users possess different points of view in the "news" it leads to conflict, which in turn often leads to vandalism. I would hope that that should I post such a news item that any response should be kept short. I will also try to dissuade the BAR from pursuing any further inflammatory news items, but they do feel that while disputing the execution claim was not noteworthy, insulting their pub was. I admit I usually try to avoid getting caught up in conflicts of that nature, and certainly try not to provoke them, but in this case I believe a response is forthcoming regardless of my wishes, so I have offered to temper it to preserve the neutrality of the suburb wikipage's news.
As a reported I would hope I could rely on you not to be tempted into responding harshly, if at all. It is my firm belief that news may be news, but in-game actions speak much louder. As such, if the BAR has offended you please take it up with the in Urban Dead as you see fit. Please do not initiate a “war of words” in the suburb’s news section. But perhaps I am being overly paranoid, an attribute I assure you is one born of experience through similar issues which I have been forced to litigate, much to my discomfort. So again, to summarize if it were, I will consider your offer to report news for the Malton Examiner, and on a different note I ask you not to react too hastily to any new news reports from the BAR. In turn I will ask them to forsake any future news reports that might be deemed offensive. I also hope that, as I worked with Torec in the past to source facts about Cybele’s Slayers, I might work with you for the duration of your group's stay in Rolt Heights to shed some light on the Malton Mob's involvement. While I normally do not care much for PKers or their groups, the neutrality and factual nature of the suburb news section must be upheld. --Mobius187 April 22 2007, 4:05 PM (EST)
EDIT - It appears there was no need for me to be concerned. While the BAR did post my suggested "toned down" news item (although I heard some edits were made to it) Vigeous, a member of the PKA, decided the best solution was to remove both the original news post and the BAR's follow-up. I agree that news of that nature should not be brought into the suburb's wikipage. On the matter of the 4 alleged execution, perhaps it may have slipped your mind, but I have seen the screenshots proving each execution against Mr Shadows. Also you yourself can review each place and date on the BAR's "Deadbeat" list (refer to their group's wikipage). I can assure you, they were all valid, with "valid" kills referring to those where a BAR member delivered the final blow. --Mobius187 April 22 2007, 5:04 PM (EST)

The Electric Light Torchestra

Hullo. We at the ELT just acquired the old factory as our HQ. Do you have any suggestions on how to change the wiki page? Especially concerning the official stuff, just go ahead. Trivia and such will be provided step by step by the members. Btw., the glue there really smells appetizingly --Balcony JediELT|Talk! 09:17, 13 April 2007 (BST)

No problem. By "official stuff", I take it you mean where the group ownership is recorded on the location's wikipage, right? I'll add that. The question I have is does your group disagree with the set barricade level for this building (EH)? If not, great, I'll say your group supports and enforces it. If you disagree then let me know what it should be and I'll change it to that, but note that it goes against the standard suburb policy. Other than that it's simply a matter of mentioning you in a new paragraph under the Description and a news item under Current Events. --Mobius187 April 13 2007, 8:12 AM (EST)
We'll stick to the standard policy, of course. Thanks in advance. See you around, --Balcony JediELT|Talk! 15:53, 13 April 2007 (BST)
Oh, in case you didn't spot it. Be sure to check my forum post in your group's section on this matter. Let me know what you think about my suggestion. After that, I'll proceed however you want me to. --Mobius187 April 13 2007, 10:57 AM (EST)

ELT - No templates. Ever :-)

Hi. It is, in fact, a little joke. While I'm no fan of plastering my user page with them, I do use some hand picked templates. I use a signature template, after all. I would like to put up the DA template, but I'd like it to go either to the right of my user pic or to the right of the "It never ends" template, just above the "No templates" template. So I don't have to start a third row, if possible. But I have no clue how to allign that stuff. So if you can spare a minute, I would be gracious if you could put it there for me. Please? Regards, --Balcony JediELT|Talk! 11:52, 10 April 2007 (BST)

Me likes! Thanks for the job. Especially for the categories. I think. Important stuff, they say :-) Right now I don't want a user template, but if I ever will I know where to look for a good example. How can I ever pay you back? --Balcony JediELT|Talk! 11:13, 11 April 2007 (BST)
Continue helping survivors. That's all I ask. :) --Mobius187 April 11 2007, 6:14 AM (EST)
I will. As long as I'm alive. And probably beyond death. --Balcony JediELT|Talk! 11:44, 11 April 2007 (BST)
Glad to hear it. --Mobius187 April 11 2007, 7:52 AM (EST)

Freelance Military Operations

Hey, thanks for getting in contact. However the group is currently at 3 members and discussions are being held about where to go next, so i dont believe you will have to add us to the group lists. Thanks anyway! If we end up staying, ill notify you. --Kaisuke 08:01, 28 March 2007 (BST)

The Electric Light Torchestra facelift

Hi Mobius. It's me again. I'm still in favour of the changes (also, the new ones sound good to me), but I want to wait for PsychoLychee to decide, as I mentioned before. Also, as you may have observed, our group activity on the wiki seems to be a little lazy the last days. I hope this will change soon, and that we can recruit some new members. We'll approach you when we're back in (real) action. --Balcony JediELT|Talk! 18:33, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Yo. And AGAIN. This time I bring actual news. I got a message from PsychoLychee and he thinks you rock in page-making (or that you have way too much time on your hands, but no matter as long as the results are that good:-). So I officially invite you to revamp all of our wiki pages, but please use black text or something else that suits the page, as long as the text is not blue (because we think links should be blue). I'm looking forward to the new design, keep rocking. --Balcony JediELT|Talk! 10:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Great work, Mobius. Will you be changing our Light-Map as well when you find the time? Pretty please! :-) --Balcony JediELT|Talk! 16:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

New Branch Wiki

Mobius, you said you were willing to make a sub page for our new branch. If you would that would be fantastic. Here is some info:

Dead vs Blue: SouthWest Expedition for Eradication and Protection from Zombies.
HQ at the Baillie Hotel 18, 82.

Thank you for all of your work.
-- Cheeser, DvB|DA   19:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. While it took a bit, the new DvB:SWEEPZ sub-group wikipage was not as demanding as the original Dead vs Blue wikipage. Although creating the group icon did take me an extra hour (mostly getting it "just right" and sized properly). I hope you and everyone in the new branch of the DvB has fun over in Ruddlebank. --Mobius187 February 20 2007, 9:44 AM (EST)


Thanks for the cleanup of of the suburb and RCDC pages, though editing signed comments may be a bit too much. Anyway, some things have needed an overhaul for a while, but the member(s) who set the pages up haven't been heard from in a while. I've done a few tweaks here and there but haven't had the time / knowledge to really fix it. It does look a bit weird right now, but I'm sure we'll get used to it. I suppose you should have asked before changing our group page, but I'll put up a poll on our forum about keeping the changes. --Schloss Ritter 05:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sometimes I like to just jump right in. In most cases if the site is in good order I can restrain myself, but the RCDC page had some serious format issues like that one thin column of text that stretched itself out and the broken image link (due, I'm sure, to a Mod Deletion). I tried my best to resolve the issues while maintaining what you guys originally had in place, but without a major re-work I couldn't get the coloured text box in the top section. Instead I borrowed from Newgrounds and opted to give you guys one overall colour theme. Of course that's not to say my work is the end-all and be-all of what you guys should have. You can certainly undo it or edit it as your group sees fit. That, or if you want further edits, just let me know (i.e. changing the colour scheme). My objective is a simple one, to improve the look and feel of the wikipages in the NE Corner suburbs, but at the same time I'll respect whatever you guys want your wikipage to look like. --Mobius187 February 13 2007, 7:50 AM (EST)

The Safety Patrol

We are currently occupying the Holdway Museum, adjacent to the carpark revive point and near to Anne General and Downe Towers. We would be grateful if you could create a page. --Otware 12:16, 12 April 2006 (BST)

Dead vs Blue

Not really sure how you would like us to get a hold of you, if this is not the way let me know. I am talking to my group right now. I’ll let you know which building we pick. Is there any which are "off limits"?

Also, thanks for the suggestion. --Larith 22:56, 27 February 2006 (GMT)

Looks like we have picked the Downe Towers as our HQ. It also looks like we are in the midst of talking to the Dulston Alliance about setting up another building that we can both run apart from our own headquarters. Think of it as an emergency shelter and way to contact and get to know some of their members. I'll keep you up to date on what happens with that.
That’s a great idea. I’ve been wanting to spend some time to figure out an easier way to tell who’s who. I’ll swing the idea by the group. I’m not sure if I can get everyone to make their own, but I think most will. Thanks for all your help! --Larith 06:57, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
It seems that the "vs" page has been taken by someone else? I tried to move the "Vs" page to the "vs" page but it wouldn’t let me. If you can figure it out, be my guest.
To be honest I’m not even sure why I picked "Vs" to begin with. Just another one of the great mysteries of life I guess...
--Larith 06:47, 9 March 2006 (GMT)
  • So does the "Vs" page just redirect you to the "vs" page now?
    --Larith 21:41, 11 March 2006 (GMT)

Yeah I’ve heard some people talking about the ant-dvb tags around. I don’t think we are to worried about them. When we find them we try and get rid of them...

Not really sure who or why anyone is doing it though... --Larith 00:52, 17 March 2006 (GMT)

Channel 4 News Team

Yeah, I took the story about Wes Mantooth's Hatchet Man out of The News because the guy in the story took off to hunt someone else and issued a formal sort of "you're not a beardo" statement.

As for the thing on the CMS wiki, he wrote it, I laughed, and we reached an amicable solution such that "Burgundy Killers" would continue to amuse me while not making my death a contest. Someone seems to have deleted it, though, so I guess it's all over.

Anyway, thanks for watching my back and you stay Classy! --Ron Burgundy 02:29, 21 March 2006 (GMT)

MFD in Dulston

Looking at our duty roster, it appears Dulston has exaclty one MFD member in residence, who thus has captaincy of the suburb--name of Grifflik. you may also want to remember the name MFDhunk, as he has the Marshallship of Dulston and four other suburbs (see the MFD Command page.)--'STER-Talk-Mod 20:49, 22 February 2006 (GMT)

The Last Stand

Hey Mobius, i wanted to let you know(if you still check this once and a while) that the last stand is starting over somewhat, I am going to try to be more active on the game and the wiki so if you have any advice please talk to me on my account, or just email me at thank you and i hope for a reply!-- Xig 10:39pm 03 May 2009

Earletown Rangers/Navigation

ORPHAN.jpg Orphaned Page
The following page(s) were orphaned, meaning they weren't linked from any other page on UDWiki. For house-keeping's sake, we are adding the link onto the relevant talk page. If you don't want the pages anymore just post them on the Deletions Page. You aren't required to do anything, but we'd appreciate if it you kept the link on any one of your pages.

Please note that the link provided below will not remove the page from Orphaned Pages, so you'll still need to manually make a link for us. Thank you.

Your page, Earletown Rangers/Navigation, was not linked to on the wiki. This message is just to provide a link for it and clear it from our orphanage. --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:15, 7 May 2010 (BST)

Orphaned? Only in technical mumbo-jumbo. No man, this is solid wiki-craftsmanship. I'm using this Navigation sub-page as a "template" that's included on each of the Earletown Ranger wikipages so they can navigate between them. Why? So that if I need to add a new page later there is only one centralized location I need to update rather than every single wikipage, if I had chosen to hardcode the navigation table on them. Check out the BAR's Navigation, or even the DA's as I recall. :) --Mobius 18:20, 7 May 2010 (BST)
Yeah, sorry, I usually mention with the message. Inclusions don't count for some ridiculous reason. The BAR Nav template is linked on their talk page, and I think the DA one is the same.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:59, 7 May 2010 (BST)
Well I do usually setup redirects for every wikipage I create, so I can focus all Talk to the main Talk wikipage for that group, but as this was a Navigation wikipage I figured, what was the point, since no one was ever meant to call up that wikipage directly. Still, if it helps the UD Wiki admins with their page audits, I'll create a redirect for it. That way this will drop off the radar, so to speak. :) --Mobius 19:08, 7 May 2010 (BST)
You don't need to, the links above are fine. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:11, 7 May 2010 (BST)
Well now you tell me! My extreme helpfulness required me to act swiftly. Too swiftly. It's already done. ;) --Mobius 19:15, 7 May 2010 (BST)